[ozmidwifery] Benzene testing

2002-08-01 Thread Julia Monaghan
Title: Message



A lister recently 
asked about the effects of benzene. My brother in NZ is a campaigner against 
high levels of benzene and gave me these links. Hopethey have the info you 
want.

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsfUse the 
searchlink to take you to the search page and then click on the Search the 
Minstry of Health link. If you type in benzene, youwill come up with four 
documents and the second one is probably the one you 
want.

Alternatively, go to the Ministry for the Environment 
web site and look for info on air quality. http://www.mfe.govt.nz

Cheers, Julia 
M.


[ozmidwifery] follow throughs!

2002-08-01 Thread J Stewart



Hi list!

just thought id let everyone know that despite the 
restraints placedonus as students with our follow throughs [grumble 
grumble!!] I have now found myself 4 women happy to have me as their student 
midwife - horray!!

Congrats alsoon the breast feeding 
record!

I also found the bookreccomendations for 
midwives in fiction excellent, i now have a very healthyxmas pressie 
list!!

take care
jessica.


Re: [ozmidwifery] Insurance

2002-08-01 Thread Lois Wattis



I don't think it's been decided yet, but this is MY 
personal favourite. It's a clever pun, the meaning ofwhich is clear 
to everyone - informed and yet to be informed -about what women need to do 
about maternity care. I thinkit was Jan Robinson's idea??? 
Cheers, Lois


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denise Hynd 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 
Insurance
  
  Do I take it from Lois' email
  "PUSH FOR BIRTH REFORM".
  
  is theNMAP slogan??denise 
  hynd
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lois 
Wattis 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:05 
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 
Insurance

Well said, Sally!
I'm carrying the draft form of the NMAP and showing 
it to EVERY person who will listen. I can't wait for it to be launched 
officially in August so we can "PUSH FOR BIRTH 
REFORM". The strong network formed through this list will be a great 
instrument to facilitate exposure of theNMAP. Implementation of 
NMAP willimprove birth options for allwomen, and the care 
offered by allmidwives wherever they work, not just independent 
midwives. Regards, Lois


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sally 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:45 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 
  Insurance
  
  
  The 
  only exceptions to this are midwifes working with Community Midwifery 
  Program (WA) who hare covered through a contractual arrangement with the 
  health department.
  
  This 
  is such a huge issue and I hope that everyone will get behind the National 
  Maternity Action Plan. If we were able to get this happening the women 
  will have no cost access to a midwife as the primary care giver in the 
  place of birth that suits the woman. The professional indemnity insurance 
  could be covered in a similar way to here in WA and then we will really 
  start to make change here in 
  Australia!!
  
  How 
  active are people being in understanding what the NMAP is all about? 
  Promoting it to clients, activists, colleagues? 
  Lets get behind NMAP and 
  push!
  
  In 
  peace and joy
  
  Sally 
  Westbury


RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfest SA

2002-08-01 Thread Ken Ward



Ken 
Ward (as himself). There was a piece in the Melbourne MX paper that 
Berkeley USA is aiming for 1000+ on Saturday.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larissa  
  TimSent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:09 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfest 
  SA
  Hi All!
  We had a wonderful result at the 
  SA Breastfest this morning - 767 breastfeeding babies!!!
  Well past the record of 
  536.
  The organisers did a fantastic 
  job considering how many people there were.
  Howdid theother 
  states go??
  Hugs, Larissa
  "How can you have too 
  many babies?That's like having too many flowers."~Mother 
  Theresa~


[ozmidwifery] Re: Breastfest SA

2002-08-01 Thread Larissa Tim



I'm secretly hoping this one is a 
bust (scuse the pun!) as I am selfish and want little old Adelaide back in the 
record books!! Oh well. I will revel in the glory while it lasts 
LOL
Hugs, Larissa

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ken Ward 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:17 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfest 
  SA
  
  Ken 
  Ward (as himself). There was a piece in the Melbourne MX paper that 
  Berkeley USA is aiming for 1000+ on Saturday.
  


[ozmidwifery] Breastfest

2002-08-01 Thread Pinky McKay



!!!CONGRATULATIONS!! 

To all those breastfed bubs, mums,and the 
organisers - A brilliant effort!!

I too hope more mums realise the benefits of 
creating a network of support by belonging to ABA.

Pinky
www.pinky-mychild.com



RE: [ozmidwifery] Insurance

2002-08-01 Thread Sally








Denise the
slogan has been left for the state representative to make a decision upon when they
are formalised.



Denise my email.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]








[ozmidwifery] HBA

2002-08-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi

I know we discussed this ages ago but can anyone recall the answer.
I have a client who has private insurance with HBA and they say they 
will refund her some of my fees if I am registered with them but when I 
rang them they said I had to have a provider number. When I pointed out 
that midwives don't have provider numbers they claimed that they had 
some registered who did? So does anyone know how one goes about meeting 
their requirements and how long does it all take to sort out?
Thanks
Andrea Quanchi

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Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac birth centres again

2002-08-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi
where on earth do they come up with this stuff from
Andrea Quanchi
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 03:59  PM, Vicki Chan wrote:

no appologies requiredyell loud and clear Jo!
 
a woman in my singing group is planning a vbac ... I just heard she visited her Gp today only to be told she would HAVE to have a CS as she has a haemorrhoid and it may rupture and she may bleed to death!
 
I'll be seeing her tomorrow...
 
Vicki
xox
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jo  Dean Bainbridge
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac  birth centres again

Alright, sorry listers it is that time again when I get really pis*d about vbac exclusions from birth centres again.  Sorry to harp but I have to vent!!
 
Why is it that my right to chose an elective surgery for reasons not based on medical evidence is adhered to without further questions or dispute and that right to choose what happens to my body is backed by society.  But if I want to exercise that same right, but to chose a vbac and a vbac that is not medically managed, I am flatly denied. 
Tell me this is not discrimination!
 
SOME of us have the right to chose, SOME of us gain the support for our choice, SOME have the last say in our care...
but as long as it suits policy!
Why is it that if someone wants to birth by cs due to fears of complications that occurred last time, this is considered a valid reason.  but if I say I don't want continuous monitoring based on the inaccuracy of ECG readouts and their direct influence of increasing the cs rate...that is not good enough to be respected and supported???
PLEASE! Some one tell me what is wrong with this!
 
I am disgusted and saddened by Flinders Medical Centres decision to not allow vbac in its birth centre.  It is a sad loss for vbac women
midwives, lets hope there is a resolve to the insurance issues, cause I know for sure that if vbac is continued to be refused from BC then home birth vbacs will be on the rise.
 
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
birth with trust, faith  love...



Re: [ozmidwifery] No one left to deliver babies

2002-08-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Nicole, 
How about writing a letter to the announcer and educating her that women will continue to BIRTH their babies regardless of the fact that all the OBS in the world quit. 
I had this discussion today with my accountant and a financial planner who I only just met and he took it all on board and was looking forward to informing all his  friends and colleagues that they needed to stop disempowering women by talking about birth as delivering.  Its amazing who will take on the cause with us when you least expect it.  I always remember caroline Flint saying that we need to tell someone every day what it is that midwives do and the pass it on effect will be much bigger than what we can achieve alone.
So every time we can't be bothered having the discussion again is an opportunity lost

Tiring work somedays, but someone has to do it.
Andrea Quanchi

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:36  PM, Nicole Cousins wrote:

I was driving home from night duty yesterday morning.  Listening to the radio (Newcastle Station NXFM).  They were speaking about the front page of the Newcastle Herald stating 4 obstetricians in the Hunter Valley were getting out of obstetrics at the end of the year leaving only one obstetrician.  Any way what made me angry was the female radio speaker 'Kim' made the comment that 'there was going to be no one left to deliver the babies.  'What are women to do?'.  And then she added 'are women going to have to walk into a hospital and have the cleaner deliver the baby'.  Kim then added 'the government should subsides the insurance for the obstetricians.  Which they already do for the rural GP's.  What about independent midwives, where's there subsidy for insurance, oh no wait, where is there insurance cover.  Is this really the belief that women have about having babies?
 
Anyway thought I would share it with you.
Thanks
Nicole 


[ozmidwifery] bye for now

2002-08-01 Thread Johnston








Dear list friends and colleagues

I need to go off the list for a
while. My beloved life partner Noel has suffered what is called a
transient ischaemic attack, in which he experienced temporary paralysis and
loss of speech. He seems to be recovering well, for which we thank our
God. We are praying for full restoration.

Thanks to those who have already sent
messages of support. We were in Sydney at the time, and spent several days in the Nepean Hospital. The care we
received was excellent.



Please be assured that I will continue to
work to the best of my ability for women’s rights in birthing. 

Joy Johnston












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Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac birth centres again

2002-08-01 Thread Robin Moon



must be a big haemorrhoid

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andrea 
  Quanchi 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:04 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac  
  birth centres again
  where on earth do they come up with this stuff fromAndrea 
  QuanchiOn Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 03:59 PM, Vicki Chan wrote:
  no 
appologies requiredyell loud and clear Jo!a 
woman in my singing group is planning a vbac ... I just heard she visited 
her Gp today only to be told she would HAVE to have a CS as she has a 
haemorrhoid and it may rupture and she may bleed to death!I'll 
be seeing her tomorrow...Vickixox-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jo  
Dean BainbridgeSent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:24 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac  
birth centres againAlright, sorry listers 
it is that time again when I get really pis*d about vbac exclusions 
from birth centres again. Sorry to harp but I have to vent!!Why 
is it that my right to chose an elective surgery for reasons not based on 
medical evidence is adhered to without further questions or dispute and that 
right to choose what happens to my body is backed by society. 
But if I want to exercise that same right, but to chose a vbac and a 
vbac that is not medically managed, I am flatly denied.
  Tell me this is not 
discrimination!
  SOME of us have 
the right to chose, SOME of us gain the support for our choice, SOME have 
the last say in our care...but 
as long as it suits policy!Why 
is it that if someone wants to birth by cs due to fears of complications 
that occurred last time, this is considered a valid reason. but if I 
say I don't want continuous monitoringbased on the inaccuracy of ECG 
readouts and theirdirect influence of increasing the cs rate...that is 
not good enoughto be respected and supported???PLEASE! 
Some one tell me what is wrong with 
this!I 
am disgusted and saddened by Flinders Medical Centres decision to not allow 
vbac in its birth centre. It is a sad loss for vbac womenmidwives, 
lets hope there is a resolve to the insurance issues, cause I know for sure 
that if vbac is continued to be refused from BC then home birth vbacs will 
be on the rise.Jo 
Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 
08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith  love...


Re: [ozmidwifery] Insurance

2002-08-01 Thread Denise Hynd



Dear sally
I missed this when i was off line
And a little confused and saddened that this has 
happenedI and others  agree with the idea OF A SLOGAN FOR NMAP 

Do you have the list I do not seem to have kept it 

ie a list of the suggested slogans Denise 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sally 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:58 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 
Insurance
  
  
  Denise 
  the slogan has been left for the state representative to make a decision upon 
  when they are formalised.
  
  Denise my 
  email.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [ozmidwifery] bye for now

2002-08-01 Thread Andrea Quanchi
And rest assured that our prayers and thoughts will be with you both
Andrea Quanchi
On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 07:33  AM, Johnston wrote:

Dear list friends and colleagues

I need to go off the list for a while.  My beloved life partner Noel has suffered what is called a transient ischaemic attack, in which he experienced temporary paralysis and loss of speech.  He seems to be recovering well, for which we thank our God. We are praying for full restoration.

Thanks to those who have already sent messages of support.  We were inSydneyat the time, and spent several days in theNepeanHospital.  The care we received was excellent.

 

Please be assured that I will continue to work to the best of my ability for women’s rights in birthing. 

Joy Johnston

 

 



RE: [ozmidwifery] follow throughs!

2002-08-01 Thread Grant and Louise



At 
the beginning of Chris Bohalijian's book MIDWIVES it says it's fiction, great 
read.
Also "longitudinal case studies" for student midwives/midwifery 
students/pupil midwives/beginning midwives (- I get lost), I'm very excited to 
be a "follow through lady" for a midi student where I work. I have only great 
memories of the 4 "follow throughs" I had when "doing mid" in (ahem) '88. 
Couldn't believe my luck to become pregnant near the beginning of an 
intake!
Louise

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin 
MoonSent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 7:20 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] follow 
throughs!



RE: [ozmidwifery] HBA

2002-08-01 Thread Julie Clarke

Dear Andrea
Ring them ( the private health fund) back again and ask them to send you
an application for provider number form - fill it out and return it to
them - 
Find out who to address it to and then ring them in 2 weeks to see how
the progress of your application is going.
Anyone who provides a service which can be claimable from a health fund
can obtain a provider number from each health fund.
Let me know if you have any problems and I'll give more
guidance/details.
Hug
Julie
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrea
Quanchi
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 6:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] HBA

I know we discussed this ages ago but can anyone recall the answer.
I have a client who has private insurance with HBA and they say they 
will refund her some of my fees if I am registered with them but when I 
rang them they said I had to have a provider number. When I pointed out 
that midwives don't have provider numbers they claimed that they had 
some registered who did? So does anyone know how one goes about meeting 
their requirements and how long does it all take to sort out?
Thanks
Andrea Quanchi

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RE: [ozmidwifery] No one left to deliver babies

2002-08-01 Thread Julie Clarke








Dear Andrea

I agree wholeheartedly that at every
opportunity we need to talk about midwifery as well as natural birth.

I would also like to add that as each
midwife comes in contact with each pregnant woman in her care she should treat
her as though she a journalist who will be writing an article on her experience
of being cared for by a midwife.

I am a great believer in consumer driven
change  we can empower the consumers - 

Hug

Julie Clarke



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 7:15
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] No one
left to deliver babies



Nicole, 
How about writing a letter to the announcer and educating her that women will
continue to BIRTH their babies regardless of the fact that all the OBS in the
world quit. 
I had this discussion today with my accountant and a financial planner who I only
just met and he took it all on board and was looking forward to informing all
his friends and colleagues that they needed to stop disempowering women by
talking about birth as delivering. Its amazing who will take on the cause with
us when you least expect it. I always remember caroline Flint saying that we
need to tell someone every day what it is that midwives do and the pass it on
effect will be much bigger than what we can achieve alone.
So every time we can't be bothered having the discussion again is an
opportunity lost

Tiring work somedays, but someone has to do it.
Andrea Quanchi

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:36 PM, Nicole Cousins wrote:

I
was driving home from night duty yesterday morning. Listening to the
radio (Newcastle Station NXFM). They were speaking about the front page
of the Newcastle Herald stating 4 obstetricians in the Hunter Valley were
getting out of obstetrics at the end of the year leaving only one
obstetrician. Any way what made me angrywas the female radio
speaker 'Kim' made the comment that'there wasgoing to be no one
left to deliver the babies. 'What are women to do?'. And then she
added 'are women going to have to walk into a hospital and have the cleaner
deliver the baby'. Kim then added 'the government should subsides the
insurance for the obstetricians. Which they already dofor the rural
GP's. What about independent midwives,where's there subsidy for insurance,
oh no wait, where is there insurance cover. Is this really the belief
that women have about having babies?

Anyway
thought I would share it with you.
Thanks
Nicole








RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery history references

2002-08-01 Thread Julie Clarke








Hi All

I found the History
of Birth in NSW  Traveling Exhibition by the Powerhouse Museum earlier this year was absolutely
fascinating.

Did anyone
else see it ?

I saw it at Wollongong.

Hug

Julie Clarke





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Alphia Garrety
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwifery
history references



Hi everyone- some references for a historical approach
to midwifery- unfortunately not specific to Australia- nevertheless some good
references.

Books/chapters and articles about midwifery
history

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command to search for authors, journals, or title words. The list is provided
in alphabetical order of author.
Articles:
Anonymous 1985 Royal
College of Midwives Library: a select reading list. A history of midwifery and
the RCM Midwives Chronicle 98(1169
RCM Suppl):vii-viii, Jun.
Baker M 1993 War babies Nursing Times 11(89) 42-3; Aug 11.
A retired nurse and midwife recalls the
delivery of a baby during a black-out with German bombers overhead and other
reminiscences of the second world war.
Barlow Y 1994 Childbirth:
management of labour through the ages Nursing Times 90(35) 41-3; Aug.
An examination of the management of labour
looking particularly at the emergence of invasive techniques in childbirth and
the development of pain management.
Benge M, 1984 Midwifery history:
how to bring away the after-burden... how the third stage of labour was managed
in the days of Aristotle Nursing
Times 80(41) 10-16.
Clatworthy P 1991 Babies in the blackout Nursing Times 87(7) 40-1; Feb. 13.
A retired nurse and midwife describes
midwifery training and work during the second world war.
Donnison J. 1988 Midwives and
medical men: A history of the struggle for the control of childbirth (2nd ed). New Barnet, Historical Publications.
ISBN 0948667001.
Donnison CJ. 1977 Midwives and medical men: A History of
Interprofessional Rivalries and Womens rights London, Heinemann Educational.
Fleming V, 1998 Autonomous or automatons? An
exploration through history of the concept of autonomy in midwifery in Scotland
and New Zealand Nursing Ethics:
an International Journal for Health Care Professionals 5(1):43-51,
Jan.
Midwives are frequently heard to describe
themselves as autonomous practitioners, and this is refuted. The notion of
autonomy in relation to midwifery practice in Scotland and New Zealand is
critiqued through the history of midwives and midwifery in these two countries.
Issues relating to midwifery registration, medicalisation of birth and
consumerism are discussed which it is suggested limits autonomous practice
within midwifery.
Iveson-Iveson J, 1982 History of
nursing. Roots: the eighteenth century: interest in midwifery and maternal care
Nursing Mirror 154:40-3, May 5.
Kovac G, 1998 Grandmother was a midwife Midwifery Today
with International Midwife (45):52, Spring.
Fleming S 1988 Musings on midwifery
Archaeology (41): 69
Fox E. 1995 Midwifery in England and Wales
before 1936: handywomen and doctors International
History of Nursing Journal 1(2):17-28, Autumn.
Illegal midwifery in the 1920s and 1930s
remains poorly understood. Midwives' statutory regulation began with the
Midwives Act of 1902. The licensing body for England and Wales: the Central
Midwives Board, enrolled midwives with approved qualifications and, those who
were untrained but established as being in practice before legislation. The Act
prohibited midwifery by the untrained handywomen on whom many
poorer women had formerly relied.
Hannam J, 1994-1995 Rosalind
Paget: class, gender and the Midwives' Institute c1886-1914... Rosalind Paget
was made a Dame of the British Empire in 1934 History of Nursing Society Journal
5(3):133-???
Rosalind Paget shaped the policies of the
Royal College of Midwives and influenced the nature of midwifery. Hannam
suggests that questions can be raised about the development of the RCM and
midwifery as an area of work for women.

Litoff J, 1982 The midwife
throughout history Journal of
Nurse-Midwifery 27(6):3-11, Nov-Dec.
Minkowski WL, 1992 Women healers of the
Middle Ages: selected aspects of their history American Journal of Public Health 82(2):288-95,
Feb.
Little is known of the role of women as
healers during the Middle. European universities, for the most part, excluded
women, thereby creating a male monopoly in medicine. Bared as legal healers,
women waged a lengthy battle to maintain their right to care for the sick. The
result was the brutal persecution of unknown, mostly, peasant women.
Marshall R, 1983 Birth of a
profession: The 650-year history of midwifery in Scotland Nursing Mirror 157(22 Midwifery Forum
10):i-vii, Nov 30.
Owen G 1992 Training in the twenties
Nursing Times 88(3) 49-50; Jan
15. The author describes her route to
qualifying as a fever 

Re: [ozmidwifery] bye for now

2002-08-01 Thread Nola Aicken



Dear Joy,

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Regards Nola

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Johnston 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:33 
  AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] bye for now
  
  
  Dear list friends and 
  colleagues
  I need to go off the 
  list for a while. My beloved life partner Noel has suffered what is 
  called a transient ischaemic attack, in which he experienced temporary 
  paralysis and loss of speech. He seems to be recovering well, for which 
  we thank our God. We are praying for full restoration.
  Thanks to those who 
  have already sent messages of support. We were in Sydney at the time, and 
  spent several days in the Nepean Hospital. The care we 
  received was excellent.
  
  Please be assured 
  that I will continue to work to the best of my ability for women’s rights in 
  birthing. 
  Joy 
  Johnston
  
  
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[ozmidwifery] What great things are happening in Tassie?

2002-08-01 Thread kezza07

Hi All,
I'm moving to Tassie in 2/12 and am interested in finding out all about
the great things that are happening down there with women and midwifery.

Looking forward to hearing form you
Love and kisses
Kez xxx


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