[ozmidwifery] Petrol
Subject: Petrol Subject: FW: Petrol Boycott A very interesting idea...will it work ? Needs a coordinated effort, which is not email distributions strength - but its worth a shot read on. Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Philip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt ourselves" by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at $1.05 $1.08, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to alot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people and NOT buy at ESSO/BP How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE .85 a LITRE RANGE Action: It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email and buy your petrol anywhere else boycott BP and Esso -- Mrs Lisa Hurcombe Finance Officer Adelaide Graduate Centre The University of Adelaide Confidential: This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The information contained in this email may be confidential and privileged. Any retransmission, review, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please let us know by reply and destroy all copies of it. Thank you.
[ozmidwifery] Caling Kathleen Fahey
Can some one please give me Kathleen Fahey's email Wat I thought it was has bounced Thanks Denise Hynd
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus
-- Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of Friendship Rita «¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤» Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Baby Tyler 8 months Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Aspiring CBE and Doula - Original Message From: Deliverywoman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus Date: 11/03/03 20:42 Hi Andrea, Well here I am, 14 years after getting you to sign my own copy of the 1989 version of Preaparing for Birth, my second but most important thing in my life that sent me down the road I am now on. I am helping you with information...WOW. I have recently had a friend that found out she was pregnant, after awaking in a pool of blood, thinking she had miscarried arrived at the U/S to find a FHR and the doctor diagnosed bicornuate uterus. This sent me on a research frenzy, and from what I have read, it is extremely difficult to diagnose on ultrasound and even MRI, generally the main diagnostic tool is HSG (hysterosalpingogram) dye injected into uterus under x-ray, so obviously not an option for your friend at this time. Given some of the repsonses you have already received, the main risks involved are dependent on the severity of the bicornuae, again if diagnosed during a pregnancy, is very hard to determine the severity and therefore the risks. If the placenta is attached to the septum, this has a very low bloody supply and is therefore unable to sustain the placenta. Depending on the length of the septum if the placenta is attached to the 'outer' myometrium then there could be issues of position at term with an extremely high incidence of breech and transverse lies. The high risk is premature labour in severe cases. As you have also seen from the responses those that are only a small divercation there is little to know risk and as has been shown is not detected in some pregnancies. Also there is a lot of misdiagnsosis between bicornuate uterus and septate uterus. Here are a few of the sites I found on bicornuate uterus, they are mainly very negatively focused, and I did not actually pass many on to my friend as I thought it might worry her unnecessarily. http://rustfamily.org/jordan/uterus.html http://www1.stpaulshosp.bc.ca/stpaulsstuff/NeatcasesF/bicornuateuterus.html http://www.hygeia.org/poems24.uterine%20anomalies.htm Hope these are of help Andrea -- Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of Friendship Rita «¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤» Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Baby Tyler 8 months Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Aspiring CBE and Doula - Original Message From: Andrea Robertson lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus Date: 10/03/03 20:21 gt; gt; Hello wise women, gt; gt; I have met a midwife here in Ireland (where I am now presenting workshops) gt; who would dearly love a home birth. She says she has a bicornate uterus and gt; a double cervix. She feels this puts her at high risk, although her gt; obstetrician seems to think she could labour OK and get by without a gt; caesarean (is he stringing her along, I wonder?). Have any of you had any gt; expereince with this kind of labour and how would you feel about a home gt; birth? She lives close to the hospital and I did suggest that she could gt; always see how labour progresses and if there is a problem transfer gt; quickly. She has yet to engage a midwife, although there is one here who gt; will do twins at home and has many years of experience, who may be able to gt; help. It seems that after today's workshop she is feeling inspired and gt; would like to reconsider a home birth (having reluctantly given up on the gt; idea). Any thoughts would be very gratefully received - I will email them gt; on to her gt; gt; Andrea gt; gt; gt; - gt; Andrea Robertson gt; Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education gt; gt; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; web: www.birthinternational.com gt; gt; gt; -- gt; This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. gt; Visit amp;lt;http://www.acegraphics.com.auamp;gt; to subscribe or unsubscribe. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] infants friend
I have been told by a cousin that "Colic- Lardner's natural mixture" is fantastic . You can only get this productfrom Des Lardner's Pharmacy in Horsham (03)53826006. It only lasts 10 days. Regards Lynne Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: simsarch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" Can anyone provide me with information on a product called "infants friend"?It is apparently a natural product sold in chemists to assist with reflux and unsettled tummies. Thanks, Kathy
[ozmidwifery] Holloway prison
On one of the lists I read about midwives working at Holloway prison in the U.K . I have deleted it and can't find it. Does anyone remember? thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination Incentive Payments
Dear Sandra, I don't know if this helps but here goes.Although I am happy enough for my babies to have the full immunisation program I was not happy with the idea of the Hep.B at birth.I checked with my G.P and a paed. as to whether the lack of injection at birth would stop the baby from having full protection against Hep B.Both stated that there was no medical evidence that the Hep B at birth,except for Hep B mothers was necessary.When my baies turned 18 months I was entitled to that $250 + allowance.Ann --- Sandra J. Eales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone can help me with a couple of questions or references where I might find out the answers? Do doctors miss out on their $18.50 incentive payment if the child doesn't have the Hep B birth Dose but completes the rests of the vaccination schedule? What about parent's incentive payment - do they still have to go through the whole conscientious objection deal - given that the child is still fully immunised and there is no catch up required? Sandra __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus
Andrea, One other important link I forgot to include is one for a Yahoo Group offering support to women with uterine anomolies, the link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MullerianAnomalies/?yguid=135455593 -- Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of Friendship Rita «¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤» Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Baby Tyler 8 months Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Aspiring CBE and Doula - Original Message From: Andrea Robertson lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus Date: 10/03/03 20:21 gt; gt; Hello wise women, gt; gt; I have met a midwife here in Ireland (where I am now presenting workshops) gt; who would dearly love a home birth. She says she has a bicornate uterus and gt; a double cervix. She feels this puts her at high risk, although her gt; obstetrician seems to think she could labour OK and get by without a gt; caesarean (is he stringing her along, I wonder?). Have any of you had any gt; expereince with this kind of labour and how would you feel about a home gt; birth? She lives close to the hospital and I did suggest that she could gt; always see how labour progresses and if there is a problem transfer gt; quickly. She has yet to engage a midwife, although there is one here who gt; will do twins at home and has many years of experience, who may be able to gt; help. It seems that after today's workshop she is feeling inspired and gt; would like to reconsider a home birth (having reluctantly given up on the gt; idea). Any thoughts would be very gratefully received - I will email them gt; on to her gt; gt; Andrea gt; gt; gt; - gt; Andrea Robertson gt; Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education gt; gt; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; web: www.birthinternational.com gt; gt; gt; -- gt; This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. gt; Visit amp;lt;http://www.acegraphics.com.auamp;gt; to subscribe or unsubscribe. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B Vaccine at Birth
Dear Sandra, I have been told that In Japan the immuisation program does not start til the age of 2 years.Ann --- Sandra J. Eales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have previously expressed concerns related to the administration of Hep B Vaccine (HBV) to all babes at birth ie that the midwives in my unit had become aware of marked increase in numbers of irritable babes and many more with breastfeeding difficulties in the first few days, since May 2000 when the new schedule was introduced. Since then we have done some investigation and as we became convinced of the connection we have been much more conscientious about gaining informed consent prior to administration of birth dose of Hep B ie full disclosure of risks/benefits without coercion or fraud. As a result, parents are not consenting and the rate of uptake of the birth dose in our unit has dropped off dramatically. (It is generally much nicer to come to work these days too with fewer screaming babies, distraught mothers and frantic fathers!) We (the midwives) are now copping flak because we show up very large on the radar in the 'Early Warning System' of the authorities pushing the universal immunisation issue. The pressure to conform has come from Public Health Unit, District Manager, Medical Superintendent as well as letters of complaint from a local GP (who may be fearful that he will lose his incentive payments if the children who return to hispractice have missedthe birth dose!). We have been told that we must actively encourage our clients to accept the vaccination..that it is frequently reported that the unit works well because of the high degree of trust and respect. Herein lies the opportunity to disseminate the positive effect of early Hepatitis vaccination We have been told that we must act in line with the Code of Conduct to actively promote this policy. I do believe this is a terribly important ethical issue and will not persuade my clients to act against there best interests and instincts. We use the materials and information provided by Qld Health and immunise Australia when we discuss the issue with the parents.It is acknowledged in the Understanding infant hepatitis B immunisation pamphlet put out by the immunise Australia Program that among the common side effects are mild fever, joint pain, irritability and baby going off its food for a short time. - discuss how this might affect their newborn in the first few days of life. Whilst these common and perhaps transient side effects may be of little concern in an older child they are liable to be of much greater significance in a newborn child who is already facing many challenges at this deeply important point in its life. Challenges to the newborn (physiological and iatrogenic pathology) 1.. adaptation to extrauterine life - profound physical changes in all systems respiratory, circulatory, neurological, sensory, digestive/alimentary 2.. organisation of suck to enable feed 3.. overcome effects of pharmacological substances used in labour, birth an postnatally 4.. recovery from the traumatic effect of birth eg head moulding and other birth injury We also give them the Qld Health Hep B Information which has this advice give extra fluids e.g more breast feeds or water - we discuss the implication of this at initiation of breastfeeding. We also discuss the risk factors for contracting the disease both in infancy and throught the lifespan. All women are screened for HBsAg antenatally so that babes of HB positive mothers can receive both Immunoglobulin and vaccination at birth. This has been shown to be extremely effective in managing the risk of vertical (mother to baby) transmission The risk factors (for contracting the disease) are IV drug use, unsafe sexual practices and certain ethnic groups have high endemnicity so may have a slightly elevated risk of transmission (e.g aboriginal, TSI, particular asian groups for whom we have had an effectective 3 dose targetted program for many years). Certain occupational groups, eg health workers, have a higher than average risk and are generally vaccinated witha 3 dose progam. World Health Organisation classifies Australia as a low risk for Hep B with low endemnicity of 2%, transmission rates in infancy are rare and infrequent in childhood. Qld Health Notifiable Diseases Annual Report 1997 -2001 did not count any in the age group of 13 years. The majority of notifications in the 15 -39 yr age range. WHO recommendation is for universal Hep B immunisation in childhood for those countries with high endemnicity and the recommended program is for 3 doses. Immunisation success (90% sero-conversion which is as high as it gets) occurs after the 2nd dose, so a child will become immunised at 4.5 rather than 2.5 months if they choose not to have the birth dose but elect to have the 2,4 6 month doses. Breastfeeding rates are not
Re: [ozmidwifery] infants friend
I am always a bit suspicious about anythingk that works so quickly for babies. Any idea what is in it Lynn?? MM - Original Message - From: Peter Hall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" I have been told by a cousin that "Colic- Lardner's natural mixture" is fantastic . You can only get this productfrom Des Lardner's Pharmacy in Horsham (03)53826006. It only lasts 10 days. Regards Lynne Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: simsarch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" Can anyone provide me with information on a product called "infants friend"?It is apparently a natural product sold in chemists to assist with reflux and unsettled tummies. Thanks, Kathy
[ozmidwifery] Women's prisons
I found the reference to a woman who was a voulunteer doula (not midwife) at Holloway Prison and have emailed her for information. I am interested in how pregnant/birthing postnatal women are cared for in our Australian Prisons. I would be grateful for factual information. My personal email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Mary Murphy
Re: [ozmidwifery] infants friend
Dear All, Just be careful of the 'natural' products on sale for infant colic/wind. I don't know about 'infants friend' product, or what the ingredients are. However, some of the 'natural' products contain herbal extracts etc. Some of these products are imported and have 'wild grasses' included (a natural product occuring with the intended herbal mixture when harvesting) and some babies have the potential to be allergic to these grasses. Regards, Anne Clarke
[ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear List, I have recently been using crystals at work with some success. Several of my patients have said "they gave me something to focus on; they gave me something to hold on to; I felt protected; I think they really did work thankyou.However, the sceptics have engaged their will and notified the NPC that they feel this therapymakes us lookunprofessional, practicing witchcraft, there is no strong evidence to support their useetc ThusI am no longer able touse the crystalsin my work until I find some evidence to support their use. Therapies such as pethidine and epiduralsare sold to all women as "safe modalitiesfor pain relief" instead of being used appropriately torescue mothers in severe pathological pain states. It is a shame that my strong critics havenothing else to offer women, a sad reflection on our profession. These drugs are offered without any conscious recognition forthe evidence available that demonstratesan increased incidence of PND; decreased breastfeeding rates;etc or as Michel Odent predictsever increasing levels of violence in our society due to a generation of offspring who did not have access to the level of oxytocin that promotes bonding and a capacityto love:feelingnumb on the inside; not being able to complete tasks; disconnected fromsociety; increase in youth suicidedrug abuse.the list goes on. But "thats okits protocol so lets not concern ourselves with the evidence that suggests these therapies should be avoided in the majority of women" I need your supportto help me work towards achieving safer outcomes for women. I would appreciate any information or evidence any of you may havewhich mayhelp me develop a protocol for the use of complementary therapies such as crystals etc or send me a copy of a protocol you have developed in your working environment. Kind regards Jennie Want (RN.EM.BMid..Masters of Midwifery student)
Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination Incentive Payments
Thanks Ann I thought that was the case but wasn't entirely sure about the conscientious objector form. Sandra - Original Message - From: Ann green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination Incentive Payments Dear Sandra, I don't know if this helps but here goes.Although I am happy enough for my babies to have the full immunisation program I was not happy with the idea of the Hep.B at birth.I checked with my G.P and a paed. as to whether the lack of injection at birth would stop the baby from having full protection against Hep B.Both stated that there was no medical evidence that the Hep B at birth,except for Hep B mothers was necessary.When my baies turned 18 months I was entitled to that $250 + allowance.Ann --- Sandra J. Eales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone can help me with a couple of questions or references where I might find out the answers? Do doctors miss out on their $18.50 incentive payment if the child doesn't have the Hep B birth Dose but completes the rests of the vaccination schedule? What about parent's incentive payment - do they still have to go through the whole conscientious objection deal - given that the child is still fully immunised and there is no catch up required? Sandra __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear Jennie I commend your efforts particularly as student midwife in the context of meidcalised australian birthing "services" but Please can you not say childbirth contractions are "pathological pain states" mild, moderate or severe though what is done to women when they are having contractions I would consider pathological in that it shows a lack of understanding of childbirth and how to workwith contractions and labour in general. To say such things is to in advertently support the use of the treatments you are trying to avoid By the way what is EM ?? Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: pjwant To: ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:56 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy Dear List, I have recently been using crystals at work with some success. Several of my patients have said "they gave me something to focus on; they gave me something to hold on to; I felt protected; I think they really did work thankyou.However, the sceptics have engaged their will and notified the NPC that they feel this therapymakes us lookunprofessional, practicing witchcraft, there is no strong evidence to support their useetc ThusI am no longer able touse the crystalsin my work until I find some evidence to support their use. Therapies such as pethidine and epiduralsare sold to all women as "safe modalitiesfor pain relief" instead of being used appropriately torescue mothers in severe pathological pain states. It is a shame that my strong critics havenothing else to offer women, a sad reflection on our profession. These drugs are offered without any conscious recognition forthe evidence available that demonstratesan increased incidence of PND; decreased breastfeeding rates;etc or as Michel Odent predictsever increasing levels of violence in our society due to a generation of offspring who did not have access to the level of oxytocin that promotes bonding and a capacityto love:feelingnumb on the inside; not being able to complete tasks; disconnected fromsociety; increase in youth suicidedrug abuse.the list goes on. But "thats okits protocol so lets not concern ourselves with the evidence that suggests these therapies should be avoided in the majority of women" I need your supportto help me work towards achieving safer outcomes for women. I would appreciate any information or evidence any of you may havewhich mayhelp me develop a protocol for the use of complementary therapies such as crystals etc or send me a copy of a protocol you have developed in your working environment. Kind regards Jennie Want (RN.EM.BMid..Masters of Midwifery student)
Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B Vaccine at Birth
Wow, at last someone has eloquently described something that has been bothering me for ages. Well Done, Sandra. Does anyone have references to support this argument? Because, we're gonna need them if we can effect any change. Robin - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B Vaccine at Birth Marilyn wrote: "Sandra you are so brave." A long time agoe some ancient philosopher wrote something like this: "In order for evil to flourish, good men do nothing" I think that covers Sandra's stand. MM - Original Message - From: Sandra J. Eales To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Hep B Vaccine at Birth I have previously expressed concerns related to the administration of Hep B Vaccine (HBV) to all babes at birth ie that the midwives in my unit had become aware of marked increase in numbers of irritable babes and many more with breastfeeding difficulties in the first few days, since May 2000 when the new schedule was introduced. Sincethen we have done some investigation and as we became convinced of the connection we have been much more conscientious aboutgaining "informed consent" prior to administration of birth dose of Hep B ie "full disclosure of risks/benefits without coercion or fraud". As a result, parents are not consentingand the rate of uptake of the birth dose in our unit has dropped off dramatically.(It is generally much nicer to come to work these days too with fewer screaming babies, distraught mothers and frantic fathers!) We (the midwives) are nowcopping flak because we show up very large on the radar in the 'Early Warning System' of theauthorities pushing the universal immunisation issue. The pressure to conform has come from Public Health Unit, District Manager, Medical Superintendent as well as letters of complaint from a local GP (who may be fearful that he will lose his incentive payments if the children who return to hispractice have missedthe birth dose!). We have been told that we must "actively encourage" our clients to accept the vaccination..that "it is frequently reported that the unit works well because of the high degree of trust and respect. Herein lies the opportunity to disseminate the positive effect of early Hepatitis vaccination" We have been told that we must "act in line with the Code of Conduct"to actively promote this policy. I do believe this is a terribly important ethical issue and will not persuade my clients to act against there best interests and instincts. We use the materials and information provided by Qld Health and "immunise Australia"when we discuss the issue with the parents.It is acknowledged in the "Understanding infant hepatitis B immunisation" pamphlet put out by the "immunise Australia Program" that among the common side effects are mild fever, joint pain, irritability and baby going "off its food for a short time". - discuss how this might affect their newborn in the first few days of life. Whilst these common and perhaps transient side effects may be of little concern in an older child they are liable to be of much greater significance in a newborn child who is already facing many challenges at this deeply important point in its life. Challenges to the newborn (physiological and iatrogenic pathology) adaptation to extrauterine life profound physical changes in all systems respiratory, circulatory, neurological, sensory, digestive/alimentary organisation of suck to enable feed overcome effects of pharmacological substances used in labour, birth an postnatally recovery from the traumatic effect of birth eg head moulding and other birth injury We also give them the Qld Health Hep B Informationwhich has this advice "give extra fluids e.g more breast feeds or water" - we discuss the implication of thisat initiation of breastfeeding. We also discuss the risk factors for contracting the disease both in infancy and throught the lifespan. All women are screened for HBsAg antenatally so that babes of HB positive mothers can receive both Immunoglobulin and vaccination at birth. This has been shown to be extremely effective in managing the risk of vertical (mother to baby) transmission The risk factors (for contracting the disease) are IV drug use, unsafe sexual practices and certain ethnic groups have high endemnicity so may have a slightly
Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear Jennie, If the women wish to use the crytals that is their business not other Midwives or administrators. Just talk to them prior to labour about them and if you cannot do that you can inform your clients about them in early labour. It is then up to them if they wish to use them. You don't have to document or tell anyone else as it is the woman's decision to use them, you are not 'prescribing' them. You could argue if they challenged you again for them (midwives admin) to prove if they do harm tothe labouring woman and that it was the womans decision. You always state to the woman that there is no hard data on crystals but you can give them anecdotal evidence from the woman who stated that they were useful. Regards, Anne Clarke - Original Message - From: pjwant To: ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy Dear List, I have recently been using crystals at work with some success. Several of my patients have said "they gave me something to focus on; they gave me something to hold on to; I felt protected; I think they really did work thankyou.However, the sceptics have engaged their will and notified the NPC that they feel this therapymakes us lookunprofessional, practicing witchcraft, there is no strong evidence to support their useetc ThusI am no longer able touse the crystalsin my work until I find some evidence to support their use. Therapies such as pethidine and epiduralsare sold to all women as "safe modalitiesfor pain relief" instead of being used appropriately torescue mothers in severe pathological pain states. It is a shame that my strong critics havenothing else to offer women, a sad reflection on our profession. These drugs are offered without any conscious recognition forthe evidence available that demonstratesan increased incidence of PND; decreased breastfeeding rates;etc or as Michel Odent predictsever increasing levels of violence in our society due to a generation of offspring who did not have access to the level of oxytocin that promotes bonding and a capacityto love:feelingnumb on the inside; not being able to complete tasks; disconnected fromsociety; increase in youth suicidedrug abuse.the list goes on. But "thats okits protocol so lets not concern ourselves with the evidence that suggests these therapies should be avoided in the majority of women" I need your supportto help me work towards achieving safer outcomes for women. I would appreciate any information or evidence any of you may havewhich mayhelp me develop a protocol for the use of complementary therapies such as crystals etc or send me a copy of a protocol you have developed in your working environment. Kind regards Jennie Want (RN.EM.BMid..Masters of Midwifery student)
Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help
Hi Linda, Thank you for responding to my request. No it does not matter if the mother is a midwife at all. I would love to hear your perspective. Since we live a state apart we will need to conduct the interview over the phone. If you are still fine with this why dont you email me the times that you are available. attached to this email is a info and consent sheet- if you could mail or fax the signed consent sheet back that would be fantastic. I am happy to conduct the interview during the evening- it seems to work out for many women as one of the only peaceful times of their days. Thank you again Take care Alphia At 10:40 PM 9/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Hi Alphia, Does it matter if mother is a midwife? If not I can assist. Linda. Ph (03)51765171 From: Alphia Possamai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:55:31 +1100 Hi Jo, Would love this if you could arrange it for me. I would like to keep the babies around 6 months of age- if they are slightly older that is fine- but not over 10 months. thank you for your help Warmly Alphia At 04:14 PM 7/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Alphia, would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] request for help Hi everyone, Another request for assistance. I am still in the middle of my field work. I have almost the full amount of private hospital birthing women and homebirth moms. However, I need public hospital Moms - my only criteria is that the mother is Australian born and the baby born relatively recently. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I conduct an interview that lasts approximately 60 minutes - over the phone or face to face. Discussing expectations and experiences of pregnancy, care and birth. Thank you Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. information sheet1.doc Description: MS-Word document
Re: [ozmidwifery] Petrol
This will not work. fact 1/ the service station owners make little or no money on the cheaper days. 2/ they rely on the other days (when they put the price up eg 2-3 cents /litre) to make app 1-3 cents/litre of petrol sold. If they sell 40litres to 100 cars they stand to make...$120 big deal. 3/ service station owners make their main profits from retail sale like drinks and confectionary..NOT from petrol. 4/ Petrol companies make profits from service stations turn over of fuel. 5/ By targeting 1 or 2 service stations you will only hurt the service station owners/proprietors. Not the fuel companies. Even if they did drop their price it will only be for a short time and it will go back up. OPEC sets the world price of oil...not the service stations. You'd be better sending an email to stop the WAR rather then "shooting the messenger" (service station owners). I find it very difficult to grasp the relationship to Midwifery with this one! Darren
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bicornate uterus
Explanation: The Y-shaped, forked uterus occurs in a wide range of varieties. Externally it may have only a shallow notch( arcuate uterus), o it may be cleved so deeply as to be called a double uterus. The internal septum may be partial, or it may extend down to the cervix, creating two seperate cavities. The distinguishing charateristics of this uterus, regardless of the extent of fundal notching, is the cervix. The term bicornuateis limited to a forked uterus having a single cervix, rather than one having a double cervix. Darren -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear Denise, EM in Queensland means endorsed midwife. Perhaps I did not explain myself properly. I believe many of us see pathological pain states in labour more often than we care to admit. I believe thisoccurs because most of us in Australia work in pathological birth environments where there is a lack of endorphins between midwives and midwives; midwives and mothers; doctors and midwives; doctors and mothers. Particularly where the woman feels intimidated, frightened, where there is no trust, no continuity of care; no informed consent;no love in the medicine.. Odent helps me to understand this fully when hesays"women can undilate with one unkind glanceHe states "If the method of the mammals be inefficient in any particular instance there must always be teams capable of doing epidurals to compensate for the lack of endorphins; to use drips to compensate for a deficiency of hormones from the posterior pituitary; to perform cesarean sections to rescue babies in distressbut it should not become the usual way to be born".By saying this it could be said thatheis inadvertantly supportingthese methods.However you and I know that this is not the case. He legitimises the womens pain because the environmentis so pathological in comparison to what the normal birth processrequires. On more occasions thenwe care to admit, many midwives in the hospital environmentfeel powerless tokeep a safe space for the woman; to allow the complex cascade of hormones to be released in the womanstime and not ourtime; to limit the use ofabusive language to women. All to often we succumb to thepatriacial domination of the environment in which we all work. The use of the language "severe pathological pain" occurs in Oxorn and Foote (1986) The authorsrefer to this pain state being associatedwith"a malpresentation; or when the uterine action is abnormal as in the incoordinate uterus, wherethe propagation wave does not start at the pacemaker part of the uterus.They talk about "cervical dystocia, obstructed labours, contractile waves with inverted gradients where the normal contraction begins in the lower segment and moves upward. The polarity of the uterus is reversed and the is no effacement or dilatation of the cervix. Pain may be present all the time and is out of proportion with the intensity of the contractions". We have all seen women like this and some of us have not appreciated the extent of their pain because it does not show up on the monitor, or we cannot palpated the contractions; or they arejust prostin pains. These women are deemed not in labour, therefore it does not legitamise their pain. Denise as you have inferred, and I wholeheartedly support,the environment is notconducive tonormal birth. My continuation on this note is that the womans pain does become pathological in many instances and does require extraordinary means to releive it because the environment for birth is so abnormal."Failure to progress" becomes the physical manifestation of a woman who is spiritually unsupported. It is these above situations that I am referring to when I am describing pathological pain states. It is my belief that it is our lack of continuity of care that is utimately responsible for why pethidine and epidurals become so necessary to some women and many midwives. I can not remember the last time I initiated the use of pethidine or epidural to a birthing women. I am fortunatethat the births I oftenattend are unmedicated and normal. I put the hard yards in, I dont deliver obstetric solutions from the desk. I strive to be totally connected to the energy surrounding the birth .I once had a birth bag which carriedthe odd bit of aromotherapy, rescue remedy, crystalsI wish to reestablish these modalities in a legitimate way On a positive note I delivered my first baby 3 years agoat the Birth Centre at the Royal Womens in Brisbane. Ihad a waterbirth, no drugs, no stitches, Ibreastfeed for 12months, I had Tania Nairn and Trish Schneider (DON of RWH) as my midwives who were experienced, supportive womenwho had an incredible faith in the power of the normal birthing process. I was informed; I used alternative therapies to deal with my pain (rescue remedy, water, homeopathics, aromotherapy) The birth centre gave me a choice to use these modalities Why should it only be available at the birth centre and not to all women who wish to achieve an unmedicated normal birth.God Bless. Jennie. P.S I Have just read the Revelations in the bible and God forbid the crystals are mentioned in a positive wayI will remain ever so delighted with the fact thatJesus was born in a manger and my baby received the same care,my sonhas been given the opportunity to remain deeply contented to humanity. I thank my midwives for that now and always - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:
Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear Anne, God bless you. Thankyou. You have put the love back into this situation for me and I appreciate your advice. I love it when a no does not always have to be a no and thats the end of it. Just likewhenthe cervix is 6cms but deemed 4cms on paper to allow for birthing time. Where there is a will there is a way.Thankyou for the will and the way to keep going. My endorphin levels are on the rise againand it feels greatthank you.Happy birthing ..Jennie Want. - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy Dear Jennie, If the women wish to use the crytals that is their business not other Midwives or administrators. Just talk to them prior to labour about them and if you cannot do that you can inform your clients about them in early labour. It is then up to them if they wish to use them. You don't have to document or tell anyone else as it is the woman's decision to use them, you are not 'prescribing' them. You could argue if they challenged you again for them (midwives admin) to prove if they do harm tothe labouring woman and that it was the womans decision. You always state to the woman that there is no hard data on crystals but you can give them anecdotal evidence from the woman who stated that they were useful. Regards, Anne Clarke - Original Message - From: pjwant To: ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy Dear List, I have recently been using crystals at work with some success. Several of my patients have said "they gave me something to focus on; they gave me something to hold on to; I felt protected; I think they really did work thankyou.However, the sceptics have engaged their will and notified the NPC that they feel this therapymakes us lookunprofessional, practicing witchcraft, there is no strong evidence to support their useetc ThusI am no longer able touse the crystalsin my work until I find some evidence to support their use. Therapies such as pethidine and epiduralsare sold to all women as "safe modalitiesfor pain relief" instead of being used appropriately torescue mothers in severe pathological pain states. It is a shame that my strong critics havenothing else to offer women, a sad reflection on our profession. These drugs are offered without any conscious recognition forthe evidence available that demonstratesan increased incidence of PND; decreased breastfeeding rates;etc or as Michel Odent predictsever increasing levels of violence in our society due to a generation of offspring who did not have access to the level of oxytocin that promotes bonding and a capacityto love:feelingnumb on the inside; not being able to complete tasks; disconnected fromsociety; increase in youth suicidedrug abuse.the list goes on. But "thats okits protocol so lets not concern ourselves with the evidence that suggests these therapies should be avoided in the majority of women" I need your supportto help me work towards achieving safer outcomes for women. I would appreciate any information or evidence any of you may havewhich mayhelp me develop a protocol for the use of complementary therapies such as crystals etc or send me a copy of a protocol you have developed in your working environment. Kind regards Jennie Want (RN.EM.BMid..Masters of Midwifery student)
RE: [ozmidwifery] infants friend
here,here. I have had some nasty stories about this "wonderful"stuff. Care is needed -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:53To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" I am always a bit suspicious about anythingk that works so quickly for babies. Any idea what is in it Lynn?? MM - Original Message - From: Peter Hall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" I have been told by a cousin that "Colic- Lardner's natural mixture" is fantastic . You can only get this productfrom Des Lardner's Pharmacy in Horsham (03)53826006. It only lasts 10 days. Regards Lynne Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: simsarch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] "infants friend" Can anyone provide me with information on a product called "infants friend"?It is apparently a natural product sold in chemists to assist with reflux and unsettled tummies. Thanks, Kathy
Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help
From: Alphia Possamai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:56:32 +1100 Hi Linda, Thank you for responding to my request. No it does not matter if the mother is a midwife at all. I would love to hear your perspective. Since we live a state apart we will need to conduct the interview over the phone. If you are still fine with this why dont you email me the times that you are available. attached to this email is a info and consent sheet- if you could mail or fax the signed consent sheet back that would be fantastic. I am happy to conduct the interview during the evening- it seems to work out for many women as one of the only peaceful times of their days. Thank you again Take care Alphia At 10:40 PM 9/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Hi Alphia, Does it matter if mother is a midwife? If not I can assist. Linda. Ph (03)51765171 From: Alphia Possamai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:55:31 +1100 Hi Jo, Would love this if you could arrange it for me. I would like to keep the babies around 6 months of age- if they are slightly older that is fine- but not over 10 months. thank you for your help Warmly Alphia At 04:14 PM 7/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Alphia, would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] request for help Hi everyone, Another request for assistance. I am still in the middle of my field work. I have almost the full amount of private hospital birthing women and homebirth moms. However, I need public hospital Moms - my only criteria is that the mother is Australian born and the baby born relatively recently. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I conduct an interview that lasts approximately 60 minutes - over the phone or face to face. Discussing expectations and experiences of pregnancy, care and birth. Thank you Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. informationsheet1.doc Hi Alphia, That is fine I can help. I will sign and post the consent form to you. Just checking, do I post it to you, care of School of Sociology and Justice Studies, Bankstown Campus, Univ. of Western Sydney? Yes evenings would definately suit. Any weeknight evening is fine except Mondays. Just let me know ahead of time and I will be home. I will be away between the 16th and 25th of March. Regards, Linda Peck (03) 5176 5171 0417 058 190 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy
Dear Jennie I am sorry I miss understood you but then again if I had not I would not have the benefit of your MO quote which is something I asked him and others about recently as I wasnot in accord with the words and attitudes of other staff recently and I felt a consequence of the environment and fragmented care etc waswoman (women) went back (Go) wards emotionally and I felt uterine wise but there was failure to recognise this or the causal agent(s). Thank you And again go well Denise - Original Message - From: pjwant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] crystal therapy Dear Denise, EM in Queensland means endorsed midwife. Perhaps I did not explain myself properly. I believe many of us see pathological pain states in labour more often than we care to admit. I believe thisoccurs because most of us in Australia work in pathological birth environments where there is a lack of endorphins between midwives and midwives; midwives and mothers; doctors and midwives; doctors and mothers. Particularly where the woman feels intimidated, frightened, where there is no trust, no continuity of care; no informed consent;no love in the medicine.. Odent helps me to understand this fully when hesays"women can undilate with one unkind glanceHe states "If the method of the mammals be inefficient in any particular instance there must always be teams capable of doing epidurals to compensate for the lack of endorphins; to use drips to compensate for a deficiency of hormones from the posterior pituitary; to perform cesarean sections to rescue babies in distressbut it should not become the usual way to be born".By saying this it could be said thatheis inadvertantly supportingthese methods.However you and I know that this is not the case. He legitimises the womens pain because the environmentis so pathological in comparison to what the normal birth processrequires. On more occasions thenwe care to admit, many midwives in the hospital environmentfeel powerless tokeep a safe space for the woman; to allow the complex cascade of hormones to be released in the womanstime and not ourtime; to limit the use ofabusive language to women. All to often we succumb to thepatriacial domination of the environment in which we all work. The use of the language "severe pathological pain" occurs in Oxorn and Foote (1986) The authorsrefer to this pain state being associatedwith"a malpresentation; or when the uterine action is abnormal as in the incoordinate uterus, wherethe propagation wave does not start at the pacemaker part of the uterus.They talk about "cervical dystocia, obstructed labours, contractile waves with inverted gradients where the normal contraction begins in the lower segment and moves upward. The polarity of the uterus is reversed and the is no effacement or dilatation of the cervix. Pain may be present all the time and is out of proportion with the intensity of the contractions". We have all seen women like this and some of us have not appreciated the extent of their pain because it does not show up on the monitor, or we cannot palpated the contractions; or they arejust prostin pains. These women are deemed not in labour, therefore it does not legitamise their pain. Denise as you have inferred, and I wholeheartedly support,the environment is notconducive tonormal birth. My continuation on this note is that the womans pain does become pathological in many instances and does require extraordinary means to releive it because the environment for birth is so abnormal."Failure to progress" becomes the physical manifestation of a woman who is spiritually unsupported. It is these above situations that I am referring to when I am describing pathological pain states. It is my belief that it is our lack of continuity of care that is utimately responsible for why pethidine and epidurals become so necessary to some women and many midwives. I can not remember the last time I initiated the use of pethidine or epidural to a birthing women. I am fortunatethat the births I oftenattend are unmedicated and normal. I put the hard yards in, I dont deliver obstetric solutions from the desk. I strive to be totally connected to the energy surrounding the birth .I once had a birth bag which carriedthe odd bit of aromotherapy, rescue remedy, crystalsI wish to reestablish these modalities in a legitimate way On a positive note I delivered my first baby 3 years agoat the Birth Centre at the Royal Womens in Brisbane. Ihad a waterbirth, no drugs, no stitches, Ibreastfeed for 12months, I had Tania Nairn and Trish Schneider (DON of RWH) as my midwives who were experienced, supportive womenwho had an incredible faith in the power of
