RE: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters

2003-07-24 Thread Deliverywoman
Hi ozmidders,

I wished I had known about this as I would have watched it. I have compiled a video tape of TV births. The variety among them and the misconceptions they show are just unbelievable.

But I did see one very very positive TV birth and for the life of me I can not remember the name of the movie. But they actually used a 'live' birth, they showed the actress's face and all the emotions etc. but for the actual 'birth' you saw the whole lot, crowning, rotation the full kit and caboodle so to speak. It was beautifully done and of course the baby definitely looked newborn etc. as it was with umbilical cord and placenta as well. It thanked the parentsetc in the credits as well. 

I think that is my biggest peeve when they do a TV birth, not just the mothers role, but the babies they use never look newborn etc.

Yours in Childbirth and 







With the love of Friendship
Rita 


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Re: [ozmidwifery] job satisfaction

2003-07-24 Thread Jen Semple
In the midst of the course, I've happened upon a few non-practising midwives who talked about how much they loved mid, but gave it up because of not being satisfied with the current maternity system  said if there was the provision for something like caseload where they could work in true partnership with a known woman, they'd come back in a heartbeat.

Jen
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RE: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters

2003-07-24 Thread Jen Semple
I don't know if any of you ever watch the show Once  Again, but there was a WONDERFUL planned homebirth with a known midwife... very realistic... you could clearly pick the different stages of labour. I was so impressed.

I had a good laugh when Rachel had her baby on Friends  among other things, my husband says "Where's that baby's umbillical cord?" (gotta give them credit for the vaginal breech though!)

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[ozmidwifery] TV shows

2003-07-24 Thread Rosemary Wayne Weckert



Talking about TV shows. Neighbours ( I have a soon 
to be 14yr old daughter!) There is an older woman expecting her 4th baby, last 
baby 17 yrs previously. Thispregnancy is being looked after by the local 
GP, of course there are no resident midwives in the show. Anyway this baby is 
breech, I'm not sure what gestation she is now, looks pretty big. She's been 
given someexercises to try to turn the baby. She and herhubby have 
been demonstrating them in the show. Including using sound and ice as well as 
the exercises.I'm waiting to see what sort of birth she has. I thought 
that was some good informationon a TV show.
Regards Rosemary
Alice Springs


[ozmidwifery] Quote of the week

2003-07-24 Thread Mary Murphy




"The current medical backlash in birth is actually the death throes of an 
outmoded way of thinking and behaving. Men and women, mothers and babies, 
midwives and doctors—we are all awakening together." Sarah 
Buckley


[ozmidwifery] Handy Hints/Midwifery Today

2003-07-24 Thread Mary Murphy




Shoulder Dystocia: Traditional Midwifery Solutions
The basic premise: To move the baby, move the mother.
When squatting, standing, and the Gaskin Maneuver don't work:
A Running StartWith mother on her hands and knees, she 
quickly lifts a knee and sets the foot down flat. [Her assistant may choose to 
do this for her because it is difficult for a birthing mom to process verbal 
instructions.] The mother now has one knee down and one knee up, like a runner 
waiting for the signal to begin. This move rotates the symphysis pubis joint and 
rolls the shoulder off and into the open pelvis. The symphysis shrugs off the 
shoulder, like the lumberjack rolling of the log. The pelvis widens on the side 
that the knee is raised, so the midwife may want to raise the knee on the side 
where she suspects the baby's back is on. But in a flurry, just grab a leg and 
lift it. The posterior shoulder should immediately slide out and with it, the 
baby.
Praying Hands RotationIf the baby is still stuck, the 
next step is for the midwife to slip the fingers of both hands inside. With flat 
palms, one hand braces the baby's back and the other hand braces the chest, like 
a prayer around the baby. Thumbs are not required and can stay out of the 
mother. The baby is rotated so that the posterior shoulder moves toward the 
chest. The baby is essentially spiraled out.
Lift the SacrumIf the posterior arm can't move, it may 
be that the baby is too large to rotate easily in the praying-hands rotation. 
The midwife uses her dominant hand to attend the posterior shoulder. She uses 
the back of that hand like a wedge between baby and sacrum and lifts the sacrum 
up with her knuckles while her fingers sweep the posterior arm to baby's chest 
(and into the oblique diameter). Opening the sacrum enlarges the pelvic outlet 
diameter.
Bring the Posterior Arm Out from the Hands and Knees 
Position.Whenever success in bringing the baby's shoulder into the 
oblique fails to bring the baby, the midwife should go after the posterior arm 
and bring it out. For the mother already on her hands and knees, it is easy for 
the midwife to slip the four fingers of her hand inside along the mother's 
thigh. She will want her hand along the baby's back, not the chest. She should 
then sweep the fingers upward toward the tailbone. This act alone may move the 
posterior arm into the oblique.
Any difficulty getting the posterior arm out now is likely due to the arm's 
position. The midwife can reach in to find the posterior shoulder and follow 
down the arm with her fingers. It may be that one or both arms are behind the 
baby's back! An arm behind the back has to be worked to the chest of the baby 
before the shoulder can be rotated into the oblique.
— Excerpted from "Shoulder Dystocia: The 
Basics," by Gail Tully, CPM, Midwifery Today Issue 66


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Re: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters

2003-07-24 Thread Dierdre Bowman



Tv shows really have an impact. I have already 
recieved a call from a woman who saw Hot properties, with the woman planning a 
homebirth. She rang me desperate, because she had been told by a doctor 
and two midwives at the RBH in Brisbane that Homebirth was not an available 
option in Australia. Finding that it is possible to have a homebirth here she 
jumped on the net and eventually found my our numbers here in Brissy. She is now 
fairly late in her pregnancy but had her last 3 babies at home in England and 
Ireland and was devistated to think she must birth her 4th in hospital. 
Praise God for good media coverage.
Blessings 
Dierdre B.


[ozmidwifery] ILCA conference next week

2003-07-24 Thread Julie Clarke








Good Morning everyone

I had a bit of a shocking start to my day today. I
was outside hosing down windows not watching where I was going and fell
backwards into my freezing cold swimming pool, up to my neck !!!

Brr I then got out and squished my way to the tap
and turned it off then stood outside the back door and stripped down all my wet
cold winter heavy clothes before coming in and getting dry and dressed again.

I am hugging a hot water bottle and still cold L



On to more pleasant things who is coming to the Lactation
Consultants Conference next week??
I am really looking forward to it, but of course I will be careful not
to go to close to the edge at Darling Harbour!

Hug

Julie



Julie Clarke CBE

Childbirth and Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook
  Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T. (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ozmidwifery] ILCA conference next week

2003-07-24 Thread Pinky McKay



Hi julie,
I am having a stand with my books but sounds like 
they are strict about not lettingexhibitors attend any sessions -I couldnt affrd 
to do both -discovered yesterday that my publisher has closed all author 
accounts so had to pay up front for my books - I usually do but but 
usually order lesser amounts.
I am looking forward to putting faces to 
names,
Im giving atalk organised by Denise Love on 
Friday Night in Sydney.
Pinky

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Julie 
  Clarke 
  To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:10 
AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] ILCA conference 
  next week
  
  
  Good Morning 
  everyone…
  I had a bit of a shocking start to 
  my day today…. I was outside hosing down windows not watching where I was 
  going and fell backwards into my freezing cold swimming pool, up to my neck 
  !!!
  Brr… I then got out and 
  squished my way to the tap and turned it off then stood outside the back door 
  and stripped down all my wet cold winter heavy clothes before coming in and 
  getting dry and dressed again.
  I am hugging a hot water bottle 
  and still cold L
  
  On to more pleasant things… who is 
  coming to the Lactation Consultants Conference next week?? I am really looking forward to it, but 
  of course I will be careful not to go to close to the edge at 
  Darling 
  Harbour!
  Hug
  Julie
  
  Julie 
  Clarke CBE
  Childbirth 
  and Parenting Educator
  ACE 
  Grad-Dip Supervisor
  NACE 
  Advanced Educator and Trainer
  Transition 
  into Parenthood Sessions
  9 
  Withybrook Place
  Sylvania 
  NSW 2224
  T. (02) 9544 
  6441
  Mobile: 
  0401 265530
  email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] ILCA conference next week

2003-07-24 Thread Pinky McKay



Ps
Julie - warm hugs!! Brrr.
Pinky

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Julie 
  Clarke 
  To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:10 
AM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] ILCA conference 
  next week
  
  
  Good Morning 
  everyone…
  I had a bit of a shocking start to 
  my day today…. I was outside hosing down windows not watching where I was 
  going and fell backwards into my freezing cold swimming pool, up to my neck 
  !!!
  Brr… I then got out and 
  squished my way to the tap and turned it off then stood outside the back door 
  and stripped down all my wet cold winter heavy clothes before coming in and 
  getting dry and dressed again.
  I am hugging a hot water bottle 
  and still cold L
  
  On to more pleasant things… who is 
  coming to the Lactation Consultants Conference next week?? I am really looking forward to it, but 
  of course I will be careful not to go to close to the edge at 
  Darling 
  Harbour!
  Hug
  Julie
  
  Julie 
  Clarke CBE
  Childbirth 
  and Parenting Educator
  ACE 
  Grad-Dip Supervisor
  NACE 
  Advanced Educator and Trainer
  Transition 
  into Parenthood Sessions
  9 
  Withybrook Place
  Sylvania 
  NSW 2224
  T. (02) 9544 
  6441
  Mobile: 
  0401 265530
  email: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au
  


RE: [ozmidwifery] ILCA conference next week

2003-07-24 Thread Julie Clarke









Dear Pinky

I am delighted you will be there and
bringing your books! Last time I met you I purchased your first book this time Ill purchase the next one Is it 100 ways to
calm a crying baby?

I would love it if you would keep a copy aside
and sign it for me ? J

Thanx for the warm hug J

Hug

Julie





Julie Clarke CBE

Childbirth and Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9
  Withybrook Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T. (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au





-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pinky McKay
Sent: Friday, 25
 July 2003 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ILCA
conference next week





Hi julie,





I am having a stand with my books
but sounds like they are strict about not lettingexhibitors attend any sessions
-I couldnt affrd to do both -discovered yesterday that my publisher has closed
all author accounts so had to pay up front for my books - I usually do
but but usually order lesser amounts.





I am looking forward to putting
faces to names,





Im giving atalk organised by
Denise Love on Friday Night in Sydney.





Pinky







- Original Message - 





From: Julie Clarke 





To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List 





Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:10 AM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
ILCA conference next week









Good Morning everyone

I had a bit of a shocking start to
my day today. I was outside hosing down windows not watching where I was
going and fell backwards into my freezing cold swimming pool, up to my neck !!!

Brr I then got out and
squished my way to the tap and turned it off then stood outside the back door
and stripped down all my wet cold winter heavy clothes before coming in and
getting dry and dressed again.

I am hugging a hot water bottle and
still cold L



On to more pleasant things
who is coming to the Lactation Consultants Conference next week?? I am really looking forward to it, but
of course I will be careful not to go to close to the edge at Darling Harbour!

Hug

Julie



Julie Clarke CBE

Childbirth and
Parenting Educator

ACE Grad-Dip
Supervisor

NACE Advanced
Educator and Trainer

Transition into
Parenthood Sessions

9
  Withybrook Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

T. (02) 9544 6441

Mobile: 0401 265530

email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au












Re: [ozmidwifery] Jumpy legs

2003-07-24 Thread Dierdre Bowman
Hi,

I think it was Sheena who wrote a while back asking about what to do for
restless legs.  Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, I somehow missed the
email asking for more info about the Silicea gel.  Yes it is safe in
pregnancy. Also it can be bought in a gel which is a bit more expensive and
you take a teaspoon a day or you can purchase it in a combination silicea
and calcium. The brand is Hubner.  Hope this helps and it not too too too
late. Sorry!
Blessings
Dierdre B.

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Re: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters

2003-07-24 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
Cas,
I think that it was very quickly obvious that a midwife was involved in this
birth as the images and messages were so different from most TV portrayed
births. What great images of birth went out to women watching that program.
A woman kneeling over a bail of hay, saying those famous words I can't do
this and her partner responding by saying you can do this and the woman
staying kneeling while pushing her baby out into her sister's hands. It is
such a pity that they did not show the birth, it is so lovely to see the
face come in these gravity positions. Did anyone catch the piece of music
being played during the birth, it was similiar to the piece of music Vicky
Chan plays in her video (a big hello to Vicky). I would also like to
congratulate and shake this wonderful midwife's hand.
kathy
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters


 Same here... Watched out of curiousity and was so glad to see a birth
 not lying down and submissive. I guess the character is a strong woman
 and they wanted to portray that strength...pity they don't think all
 women are that strong! Apparently they had a midwife consulting on how
 it was done (read in TV Week). I'd like to know who that was and shake
 her hand. There needs to be more births like that on TV and in Movies.
 We should all write letters to the producers to let them know it was
 appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Cas.

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 Jo, it's not my normal viewing either - but heard that there was going
 to be
 birth - and I thought it was handled really well (for the media).  She
 acted
 out the labour well, it didn't occur in five minutes and looked like
 hard
 work - which even for the most wonderful birth, most labours are hard
 work
 at least for a few minutes.

 It irritates me how on TV/movies etc birth is either of two ways.

 1.  Lady breathing slowly, looking serene, not a drop of sweat - then we

 suddenly have (oh no) an 'emergency' and we have to
 PUUUSSSHHH  One or two of them - and out bub
 ops!

 2.  Women in labour totally out of control, screaming hysterically -
 must be
 a scary event!!

 Just venting

 Cheryl

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 Subject: [ozmidwifery] McLeods Daughters
 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:42:03 +0800
 
 Hi all... Just finished watching McLeods Daughters tonight and was very

 happy to see the main character (can't remember her name! not my usual
 viewing) had her baby in a barn with her sister and the baby's father
 in attendance.  I was very proud :)  I loved how she said that women
 have been having babies in the field for centuries!  All it needed to
 top it off was a breastfeeding scene ;)  But at least I didn't see any
 bottles lying around, hehe
 
 Jo
 
 
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