[ozmidwifery] parent directed
I think it is a new word for controlled crying which changed to controlled comforting to parent directed something as though it is any different. I am quite concerned by the amount of women buying into this parent directed feeding sleeping crap, as though it works- although we all know about Pavlov. I have seen women as an L.C. who have had homebirth and yet have huge expectations that they can do this parent directed feeding even when they are experiencing low supply etc. the idea that a six week old baby should sleep through the night or at least not be fed is unbelievable to me personally and really scary professionally as women increasingly need to use formula to enable this. It also teaches women to distrust themselves as mothers capable of 'mothering' their baby the way they instinctively want to. It seems to becoming quite an acceptable form of parenting here in SA and there is a GP here who actively promotes ( and unfortunately gets lots of media exposure/support - you know the reporter who had sleep deprivation and turned to him for advice formula fed then got her life back or the one who couldn't breatsfeed and her baby starved and cried all the time until he 'saved' her etc etc etc) women's need to sleep for the sake of the family dynamic (husband) and herself as more important than feeding at the breast therefore artificially feeding at night is the best option. he doesn't acknowledge or discuss issues such as the importance of breasftfeeding, support, mothering as instinctual or essential to a woman and her baby. Anyway I could go on and on it is an extreme source of frustration and anger to me, in the end it only deprives women of a good sense of self esteem, parenting style, acceptance of difference in babies as though there really is a way to produce a 'good' baby etc. I must stop! Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] parent directed feeding
Hi Cath - it is horrific -its a practice advised by Gary Ezzo - a "pastor" from teh US -his books Babywise/ childwise/ toddlerwise etc sell by the millions and are promoted in some evangelical churches. He claims to raise Godly children -its also very punitive -ie babies over 5 months who play with their food are "chastised" -this involves either smacking or removing them from teh highchair. PDF has been associated with failure to thrive, attachment disorders etc - see the links below for info http://www.ezzo.info/ http://www.tulsakids.com/babywise-2.html I will be on Today Show tomorrow - hopefully getting a chance to say something about this stuff. Tizzie Hall has backed out so it will just be me -I feel happy that there might be a chance for parents to learn some positive stuff -who knows tho-its live so cant be edited. pinky - Original Message - From: cath nolan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] parent directed feeding I work with a woman who's pregnantdaughter has told her that she wishes to 'parent direct feed'. What is this? It apparrently is strict 4 hourly feeds. She is quite horrified but obviously needs to tackle this sensitively. Has anyone heard much about this, it sounds like a return to the bad old days? Cath.
Re: [ozmidwifery] parent directed
If you do get a chance to watch Today tomorrow am - perhaps some feedback to them might be helpful. Pinky - Original Message - From: Belinda Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] parent directed I think it is a new word for controlled crying which changed to controlled comforting to parent directed something as though it is any different. I am quite concerned by the amount of women buying into this parent directed feeding sleeping crap, as though it works- although we all know about Pavlov. I have seen women as an L.C. who have had homebirth and yet have huge expectations that they can do this parent directed feeding even when they are experiencing low supply etc. the idea that a six week old baby should sleep through the night or at least not be fed is unbelievable to me personally and really scary professionally as women increasingly need to use formula to enable this. It also teaches women to distrust themselves as mothers capable of 'mothering' their baby the way they instinctively want to. It seems to becoming quite an acceptable form of parenting here in SA and there is a GP here who actively promotes ( and unfortunately gets lots of media exposure/support - you know the reporter who had sleep deprivation and turned to him for advice formula fed then got her life back or the one who couldn't breatsfeed and her baby starved and cried all the time until he 'saved' her etc etc etc) women's need to sleep for the sake of the family dynamic (husband) and herself as more important than feeding at the breast therefore artificially feeding at night is the best option. he doesn't acknowledge or discuss issues such as the importance of breasftfeeding, support, mothering as instinctual or essential to a woman and her baby. Anyway I could go on and on it is an extreme source of frustration and anger to me, in the end it only deprives women of a good sense of self esteem, parenting style, acceptance of difference in babies as though there really is a way to produce a 'good' baby etc. I must stop! Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] PDF
Thanks for the replies. I had suspected it was this, did he tour Australia about 18 mths ago. I live in a remote area and often hear of issues like this on abc radio.The website links are handy, I'm working night duty tomorrow with this woman and can pass the info on. Cath.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday
GRRR I can't believe I forgot to watch! What happened?? Jo
Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent help for Another Victorian birthing unit
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent help for Another Victorian birthing unit I would also be very interested as well, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Louise - Original Message - From: jacora To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent help for Another Victorian birthing unit I would be very interested to, Thanks. Megan - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 2:49 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent help for Another Victorian birthing unit excellent Justine. could you also send me a copy of the proposal please? [EMAIL PROTECTED] marilyn - Original Message - From: Justine Caines To: OzMid List Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent help for Another Victorian birthing unit Hi Tracy and allI would quote NSWs newest answer to best practice maternity services. Ryde Hospital is a stand alone birth unit, operating as a Midwifery Group Practice.In the development of the proposal it was mooted that primips should not be eleigible. A senior Dr (who was supportive) invited those who believed primips should be excluded to provide their evidence where is it!!! They dont have it.Be crafty turn it on its head, rather than midwives and women jumping through hoops, make them!!I will send you a copy of the Ryde Proposal through off list, though it doesnt specifically mention primips because they saw them as no special caseJustine
Re: [ozmidwifery] no more emails
Thankyou for your concern Linda. Will be ok soon. Just realized that things are a bit crazy at the moment. You take care! - Original Message - From: linda kamchevski To: list Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] no more emails Shelley are you ok. Linda
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday
Tizzie bailed out at teh last minute apparently so they went ahead with a discussion on sleep - played pics of screaming babies in cots with parents standing by. As they were doing this TRacy came into my ear plug (Being in Melb studio I was in a large empty room with equipment/Bright lights in my eyes and one technician) She said we are going to go straight to how to make babies sleep -I mentioned something about parents feeling very confused and worried about spoiling babies - she said -= or neglecting them (which I took to mean she thopught letting bubs cry was ok) then the segment was on. My 15 tips were across the screen during the interview - I had sent these earlier in hope that there could be an opportunity for a facts sheet on their website - they were going to impose mine and Tizzies sites while we spoke (but no website went on screen so a bit of a waste for follow up). I couldnt see these to comment (remind myself) as the tech switched off the monitor. I mentioned a few practical things andthat infants dont sleep like adults etc - it seemed very short but I quickly figured well - all those who cosleep wont relate to the screaming bubs so I may as well point out that there could actually be REASONS for babies to be so distressed. And I said that controlled crying wasnt an option as it gave the message not to reach out when babies need help. my brain has rattled all day how I could have done better but any impression that gentle options are best is a start. I have had good feedback but I guess people didnt know whathad been planned initially. All comments welcome Pinky - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today show on Monday GRRR I can't believe I forgot to watch! What happened?? Jo
