RE: [ozmidwifery] re grief and childrens books

2006-08-16 Thread Belinda Pound








It may not be exactly what you are looking
for, but a book has left a lasting impression on me is You, me and the
rainbow by Petrea King (bestselling author of Quest for life). A
copy of her rainbow ritual may be what you are looking for.
Check them out on her website www.questforlife.com.au

Cheers Belinda











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grief and childrens books







I have a lovely little book on life times.
It talks about all creatures from butterflies to people. That no matter how
long or short life is to celebrated and death comes to all, not to be scared
of, but a natural part of life.





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Subject: [ozmidwifery] re grief
and childrens books



I used to read a book to my kids called sophieby
mem fox I think. It was a lovely gentle book about a special grandfather dying
and provoked lots of discussion in our house with my three girls about dying.
It speaks from a cycle of life perspective with birth showing hope and new
life.Unfortunately a subject we have had to deal with quite a bit in the past
few years. I found it very helpful. Cath.











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[ozmidwifery] Fw: info required

2006-08-16 Thread cath nolan




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From: cath 
nolan 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: info required

I will be meeting with Peter Miourik(obstetrician) 
amongst others in an informal dinner setting on Friday night as the hospital 
that I work at is having a review of obstetric services . I believe this is a 
man who is quite against midwifery led services and I'm a bit puzzled as to why 
I have been asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at this dinner. But very 
pleased at the same time, and more than happy to be a part of this. Can anyone 
fill me in on what they know of this man? Cath.


Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required

2006-08-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Good Grief
Most of what I would like to say is probaobly not 
safe to write anywhere.
Dr Mourik I have worked with in Wodonga as a 
student. He come here to Wang occassioanlly as a Locum much to the distress of 
all the midwives. Arrogant is an understatement. He "saves" women and tells them 
so. 
He is a skilled obstetrician, no doubt, but I 
wouldn't want him any where near me if I was birthing.
An example that comes to mind when I was a student 
was when he was performing a perineal repair and smugly asked the husband 
"Want me to throw in a few extra stitches, to tighten her up?"
This man is very self assured, articulate, hmmm 
perhaps you should just ring me at home on this one Cath. (03) 
57221605.
Wendy


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  From: 
  cath nolan 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:28 
  AM
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  - Original Message - 
  From: cath 
  nolan 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM
  Subject: info required
  
  I will be meeting with Peter 
  Miourik(obstetrician) amongst others in an informal dinner setting on Friday 
  night as the hospital that I work at is having a review of obstetric services 
  . I believe this is a man who is quite against midwifery led services and I'm 
  a bit puzzled as to why I have been asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at 
  this dinner. But very pleased at the same time, and more than happy to be a 
  part of this. Can anyone fill me in on what they know of this man? 
  Cath.
  
  

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required

2006-08-16 Thread Julie Clarke








Hi Cath,

I dont know anything about him and
would not pass judgment on a person on a public forum anyway (or possibly
privately either),

so what Id suggest is to consider
the idea that he/or a colleague in his field might be against midwifery led
care and think through all the possible arguments that might be put forth such
as perceived insufficient midwifery training or perceived
insufficient midwifery experience or perceived insufficient
confidence professionally for midwives in Australia and then develop
counter arguments to put forth, particularly with regard to the wonderful work
being done currently for midwifery in Australia  refer to ACMI.

Warm hug

Julie 











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Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2006
10:29 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info
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From: cath
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





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16, 2006 8:37 PM





Subject: info required













I will be meeting with Peter Miourik(obstetrician) amongst
others in an informal dinner setting on Friday night as the hospital that I
work at is having a review of obstetric services . I believe this is a man who
is quite against midwifery led services and I'm a bit puzzled as to why I have
been asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at this dinner. But very pleased
at the same time, and more than happy to be a part of this. Can anyone fill me
in on what they know of this man? Cath.










Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required

2006-08-16 Thread cath nolan



Thanks Julie, I wasn't thinking of only negative 
information. more along the lines as to where has he been working, rural 
practise etc. This is a review of obstetric services and I guess my concern is 
the ongoing domination of the medical viewpoint and minimising the midwifery 
input. Thanks for your reply. I do remember reading an article by him but can't 
remember what it was in, and it was certainly not favourable to the 
establishment of midwifery led care. , Cath

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Julie 
  Clarke 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:09 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info 
  required
  
  
  Hi 
  Cath,
  I don’t know anything 
  about him and would not pass judgment on a person on a public forum anyway (or 
  possibly privately either),
  so what I’d suggest 
  is to consider the idea that he/or a colleague in his field might be against 
  midwifery led care and think through all the possible arguments that might be 
  put forth such as “perceived insufficient midwifery training” or “perceived 
  insufficient midwifery experience” or “perceived insufficient confidence 
  professionally for midwives in Australia” and then develop counter arguments 
  to put forth, particularly with regard to the wonderful work being done 
  currently for midwifery in Australia – refer to 
  ACMI.
  Warm 
  hug
  Julie 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of cath nolanSent: Thursday, 17 August 2006 10:29 
  AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info 
  required
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: cath 
  nolan 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM
  
  Subject: info 
  required
  
  
  
  I will be meeting with Peter 
  Miourik(obstetrician) amongst others in an informal dinner setting on Friday 
  night as the hospital that I work at is having a review of obstetric services 
  . I believe this is a man who is quite against midwifery led services and I'm 
  a bit puzzled as to why I have been asked to be one of the 2 midwifery reps at 
  this dinner. But very pleased at the same time, and more than happy to be a 
  part of this. Can anyone fill me in on what they know of this man? 
  Cath.


Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info required

2006-08-16 Thread cath nolan



Thanks Wendy, I have just had a big long chat with 
Andrea and have been reminded where I have heard of him before. I will let 
Andrea know how things go. Cath

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  Good Grief
  Most of what I would like to say is probaobly not 
  safe to write anywhere.
  Dr Mourik I have worked with in Wodonga as a 
  student. He come here to Wang occassioanlly as a Locum much to the distress of 
  all the midwives. Arrogant is an understatement. He "saves" women and tells 
  them so. 
  He is a skilled obstetrician, no doubt, but I 
  wouldn't want him any where near me if I was birthing.
  An example that comes to mind when I was a 
  student was when he was performing a perineal repair and smugly asked the 
  husband "Want me to throw in a few extra stitches, to tighten her 
  up?"
  This man is very self assured, articulate, hmmm 
  perhaps you should just ring me at home on this one Cath. (03) 
  57221605.
  Wendy
  
  
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From: 
cath nolan 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:28 
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: info 
required


- Original Message - 
From: cath 
nolan 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: info required

I will be meeting with Peter 
Miourik(obstetrician) amongst others in an informal dinner setting on Friday 
night as the hospital that I work at is having a review of obstetric 
services . I believe this is a man who is quite against midwifery led 
services and I'm a bit puzzled as to why I have been asked to be one of the 
2 midwifery reps at this dinner. But very pleased at the same time, and more 
than happy to be a part of this. Can anyone fill me in on what they know of 
this man? Cath.



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