RE: [ozmidwifery] newcastle conference Friday Feb9th Sat Feb 10th
Will not be able to travel from WA to attend, so can you give us feedback after the seminar Thanks, MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catherine whelan Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 11:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] newcastle conference Friday Feb9th Sat Feb 10th Dear All, Places are filling fast for this innovative and informative gig. There are several international speakers of reknown... Do you know we have the worlds No 1 expert on CTG's here Prof. Sarbaratnam Arulkumaran, who is Prof of OG St Georges Hospital, London. Plus our own Prof, Maralyn Foureur, talking about the psycho-social effect of EFM. You will remember Maralyn ran the first RCT on one to one midwifery care as opposed to usual care, in Australia. Come be inspired, educated and challenged. Ring Dee on: (02) 49214727 see you there! Love catherine whelan _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: reflux
I've had two very unsettled babies. One was diagnosed with rel\flux, then a behaviour problem,( at seven months!) and then lactose intolerance. vomiting and diarrhoea. We finally took him to a chiropractor at nine months who manipulated his neck, and he was a different baby. My last little person was so miserable, unsettled and yucky. I was house bound for months because she wouldn't settle and going out was a trial. Again vomiting but this one was constipated. She grew into a whingy, whiney toddler, temper tantrums, always into everything. She was slow with speech and understanding, but her physical skills were excellent. I actually went back to work to get away from her. I finally sought help when she was four. She's allergic to cow milk protein and vanilla. Five years later we are still battling, but it is much better. We think part of her behaviour was due to cerebral irritation related to the allergies. Babies 1 and 3 were lovely little people, normal. Babies cry for many reasons, not always oblivious, one needs to 'think outside the square' and be flexible in thinking. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alesa Koziol Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 5:28 PM To: ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: reflux Not wishing to simplify this discussion but I found this somewhere, years ago and it took my fancy, (don't know if it is a genuine quote, but if it is..) it suggests that colic and its associated parental concerns have been with us for a very long time! Peine in the belly is a common disease of children . The childe cannot rest but cryeth and fretteth itself Moreover the noyse and rumbling in the guttes, hither and thider, declareth the childe to be greved, with wynde in the belly, and colyke . Thomas Phaires Boke of Chyldren, 1545 Cheers Alesa
RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage
It has shown that the bleeds can be considered 'normal' so may help to reduce legal action when a child does not develop normally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alesa Koziol Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 5:41 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage Pardon my scepticism but what exactly did this research prove? With so many variables I am surprised that any conclusions could be drawn! Alesa Haven't they got anything better to research??!! Helen http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage Ian Sample Tuesday January 30, 2007 The Guardian Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor bleeding. In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with learning or coordination. Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least two separate regions. John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of mental disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't have to think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are common, said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or gradually heal with time. Special reports Medicine and health Useful links British Medical Association Department of Health General Medical Council Health on the Net Foundation Institute of Cancer Research Medical Research Council NHS Direct Royal Institute of Public Health World Health Organisation
[ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Congradulations Philippa, such beautiful news. Welcome earthside little Serena. Enjoy your baby moon! Love, Rachael - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Alan Linda Trewern ; Anke ; Cathy Styles ; CBI Students ; Debbie Holland ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Emma Chadwick ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MARIE MCAULIFFE ; 'Mary Emeleus' ; Melissa Hooper ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmidwifery ; Shelley Todd ; Teri Shilling ; Tracy and Michael Alloway ; Tracy Cox Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville __ NOD32 1.1725 (20060825) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Woohoo!! What wonderful, wonderful news Phillipa. Congratulations to you and all the family and friends who supported you. On 04/02/2007, at 12:01 AM, Philippa Scott wrote: Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Congratulations Philippa, i am so glad you got the birth you wanted. well done! mike and Lindsay Kennedy who are loving our new jobs in melbourne On 2/4/07, Philippa Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nz My Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@ Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.com Lindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
[ozmidwifery] Fw: [abachat] Breastfeeding in the Phillipines
Hi, It would be nice to think that this wouldn't happen in Australia - but the situation here is not as different as we would like to think. It's an interesting insight into how far formula companies will go to protect their market. I think the main thing saving Australia is not our laws on the mareting of infant formula (which are lame to say the least) but our lowish population and birthrate. Remember the Parliamentary inquiry submissions are due in by Feb 28th. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/02/1169919534128.html Recent Activity a.. 3New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo!7 360° Start a blog Public or private- it's your choice. Y!7 Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo!7 Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . __,_._,___
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [abachat] Breastfeeding in the Phillipines
A girlfriend lived in Thailand for many years and its a big problem over there too. To add to it all, the formula is very expensive and many struggle to afford it. Megan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris Bright Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 9:28 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [abachat] Breastfeeding in the Phillipines Hi, It would be nice to think that this wouldn't happen in Australia - but the situation here is not as different as we would like to think. It's an interesting insight into how far formula companies will go to protect their market. I think the main thing saving Australia is not our laws on the mareting of infant formula (which are lame to say the least) but our lowish population and birthrate. Remember the Parliamentary inquiry submissions are due in by Feb 28th. http://www.theage. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/02/1169919534128.html com.au/articles/2007/02/02/1169919534128.html Recent Activity * 3 New http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/abachat/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNDBncmpkBF9TA zk3NDkwNDMzBGdycElkAzE1ODA2NDg2BGdycHNwSWQDMTc0MDA2NDA4NQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2b WJycwRzdGltZQMxMTcwNDYxMzk0 Members Visit http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/abachat;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb2pmNzM2BF9TAzk3NDkwN DMzBGdycElkAzE1ODA2NDg2BGdycHNwSWQDMTc0MDA2NDA4NQRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0a W1lAzExNzA0NjEzOTQ- Your Group Yahoo!7 360° Start http://au.360.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJsNDltNGpqBF9TAzk3NDkwNDMzBF9wAzEEZ3JwS WQDMTU4MDY0ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzQwMDY0MDg1BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDMzYwBHN0aW1lAzExN zA0NjEzOTQ- a blog Public or private- it's your choice. Y!7 Toolbar Get http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJwNG5mOGwyBF9TAzk3NDkwNDMzBF9wAzIEZ3JwSW QDMTU4MDY0ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzQwMDY0MDg1BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDdG9vbGJhcgRzdGltZQ MxMTcwNDYxMzk0;_ylg=1/SIG=11f4sktvc/**http%3A//au.toolbar.yahoo.com/%3F.cpdl =ygrps it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo!7 Groups Start http://au.groups.yahoo.com/start;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbmI4YnBvBF9TAzk3NDkwNDMzBF9wA zMEZ3JwSWQDMTU4MDY0ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzQwMDY0MDg1BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDZ3JvdXBzM gRzdGltZQMxMTcwNDYxMzk0 a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97490433/grpId=15806486/grpspId=1740064085/msgI d=22260/stime=1170461394/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3 __,_._,___
Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Philippa - I can hear those endorphins - how beautiful! love and congratulations and welcome Serena - enjoy your baby moon. Pinky - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Alan Linda Trewern ; Anke ; Cathy Styles ; CBI Students ; Debbie Holland ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Emma Chadwick ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MARIE MCAULIFFE ; 'Mary Emeleus' ; Melissa Hooper ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmidwifery ; Shelley Todd ; Teri Shilling ; Tracy and Michael Alloway ; Tracy Cox Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
[ozmidwifery] Marvellous mothers milk
Thought you might enjoy a story on my breastmilk curing my sons eye infection. My 7 year old has an infection in a gland under his eyelid and after an initial miss-diagnosis of conjunctivitis by a GP, I discovered a sore on his inner eyelid. (mothers make better GP's sometimes) Another appt at GP's and was offered a 6 day course of antibiotics or bathe the eye every half hour with salt water and wait and see. I had already told GP I had started using breastmilk in his eye, to which was the expected blank look and no further mention. So off I go with script incase and home to bathe away with my milk. After doing this all day yesterday, my son's eye is drastically better and with further care today, all will be healed. No antibiotics and a win for breastmilk. I plan on writing this GP a letter telling him that I used breastmilk instead of salt water or antibiotics and perhaps in future he may consider it a worthy treatment. To support my non-scientific therapy is there any articles spelling out how this can work which I could include in my letter? (Of course mothers have used their milk for treating eyes and whatever else forever) Thanks in advance Megan
Re: [ozmidwifery] Marvellous mothers milk
G'day Megan, Nothing non-scientific about your therapy. Breast milk contains an antibiotic called Immunoglobin A that is a good supressor of the bacteria causing conjunctivitis (or other eye infection). There are not many scientific trials that show this (mainly because there isn't much money in proving the value of breast milk) but have a look at: http://ijms.sums.ac.ir/9812/pishva9812.html The abstract reads: ABSTRACT The effect of topical application of human breast milk in prevention of neonatal conjunctivitis was determined. Five hundred and sixty-five newborns were randomized into two groups, the first group consisting of 327 newborns, received topical breast milk prior to each breast feed for the first ten days of life. The second group of 238 babies received no treatment and served as control. Conjunctivitis appeared in 9.1% of babies in group 1 and 25.6% of newborns in the control group (p 0.1). The most common microbial cause of conjunctivitis in both groups was coagulase positive Staphylococcus. Regarding the predominance of environmental micro-organisms as etiology of conjunctivitis in newborns and anti- inflammatory and antimicrobial properties of human milk, topical application of breast milk as a prophylactic measure in neonatal conjunctivitis is recommended. Cheers, David PS. I copied this to you as hardly any of my posts get through to ozmid these days. Perhaps you could repost my message on ozmid. ___ David Vernon Editor and Writer GPO Box 2314 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia Email: Click here to email me Web: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon ___ On 04/02/2007, at 11:14 AM, Megan Larry wrote: Thought you might enjoy a story on my breastmilk curing my sons eye infection. My 7 year old has an infection in a gland under his eyelid and after an initial miss-diagnosis of conjunctivitis by a GP, I discovered a sore on his inner eyelid. (mothers make better GP's sometimes) Another appt at GP's and was offered a 6 day course of antibiotics or bathe the eye every half hour with salt water and wait and see. I had already told GP I had started using breastmilk in his eye, to which was the expected blank look and no further mention. So off I go with script incase and home to bathe away with my milk. After doing this all day yesterday, my son's eye is drastically better and with further care today, all will be healed. No antibiotics and a win for breastmilk. I plan on writing this GP a letter telling him that I used breastmilk instead of salt water or antibiotics and perhaps in future he may consider it a worthy treatment. To support my non-scientific therapy is there any articles spelling out how this can work which I could include in my letter? (Of course mothers have used their milk for treating eyes and whatever else forever) Thanks in advance Megan
Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux
Hi All, I'm not sure if this has come up on the list before but has anyone else heard of success for reflux/colic from osteopaths? When I was working in Darwin there was an osteopath who had done further studies in treatment for babies, and had had some good success according to the midwives and some of the new mums. Her theory was that the vagus nerve (controls vomiting etc) could be affected during the birth and by some very gentle massage/treatment of the back of the neck that it could be put right. She said that generally it took only 4 treatments and once put right should stay that way. It seems to make sense when you think about the stress put on the neck during instrumental and caesar births (or even normal births when someone restitutes the head the wrong way and then pulls!) Anyway, some of the mums swear by it, they say they had babies that basically didn't sleep and after the first treatment, slept 5 hours straight. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: MHOOK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, 3 February, 2007 12:28:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I don't know about over-diagnosis- my second baby (now 17) had reflux and it made her first six months the worst of my life. I'd had a perfectly normal time with my first baby, he was unsettled like most and woke at night until over 12 months but I considered that that was normal and looked forward to my second child with pleasure and anticipation. It was a nightmare- not hte birth, that was fine, but from about 3 weeks of age she screamed constantly, vomitted even while attached to the breast, never slept for more than 10 minutes at a time day or night- no one understood how terrible it was, she was obviously in pain, poor mite; my toddler was seriously shortchanged because how can you leave a child who is shrieking with pain to go and play with the other one. Just things like the carpet (whole house was carpeted, even the kitchen) being simply filthy from her constant vomiting, which was not projectile but which managed to defeat the towels etc I had strategically placed. The crying got me down dreadfully, this was nothing like I'd experienced with my first child. There was just no way to soothe her. I still have a colour chart I filled out at that time, showing her behaviour in ten minute slots over a week to show the baby health sister- red for unsettled, blue for feeding, green for sleeping etc. That sounds excessive but truly, I felt I needed evidence for people to believe me; they said things like, Oh yes it's difficult with two, in a patronising way as if it was just me not coping with an unsettled baby when I knew it was more than that. We tried all the normal things, positioning, Early childhood centre, paediatrician, medication, nothing worked. Although she was fully breastfed she had the most atrocious constipation, stools like pieces of chalk that had to be drawn out when half expelled because she couldn't get it out. Finally I went to a homeopathic dr and whatever he gave her (smelt like pure alcohol but I was desperate enough to try anything!) fixed the pain overnight. She still vomitted and still was very wakeful but without the constant crying and pain behaviour it was so much easier to cope with. I'd been told it would probably get better when she was standing up and it did, over about a week all the vomitting etc stopped and life became about a thousand times easier. So I think that 'reflux' is very different from 'unsettled baby' but after what I went through I'd be inclined to give any mother who said her baby had reflux the benefit of the doubt, and the offer of a little help. Monica - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Reflux Just found this article whilst surfing the net. I feel anecdotally that both reflux and colic are overdiagnosed. I am a midwife but not a MCH nurse. If it is so common maybe it IS a normal variation..what do you think about it? It just seems to me that some people aren't happy until they have a label and a medicine to treat it with when they have an unsettled baby. Maybe I am being too simplistic about this subject. Interested in the thoughts of some of our online listers. Helen http://www.bubhub.com.au/newsletterdec0601.shtml Reflux is so common it is almost seen as 'normal', or even trivial, and most people just don't understand how difficult life can be for many families, or understand the impact reflux can have on their lives! They may think of it erroneously as 'just a bit of vomiting', or 'just a behavioural issue'. They don't see how it impacts on the child's eating, sleeping, growth, behaviour or quality of life; or on the family's quality of life, relationships between partners, siblings or other children; finances; and even leisure time. The
Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage
I remember a lecture at uni also saying that up to 75% of newborns have tiny, seemingly harmless, haemorrage near the brain or in between any of the membranes. It did make me wonder if there were any implications for the Vit K debate. Suzi - Original Message - From: Ken Ward To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage It has shown that the bleeds can be considered 'normal' so may help to reduce legal action when a child does not develop normally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alesa Koziol Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 5:41 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage Pardon my scepticism but what exactly did this research prove? With so many variables I am surprised that any conclusions could be drawn! Alesa Haven't they got anything better to research??!! Helen http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,2001561,00.html One in four natural births causes brain haemorrhage Ian Sample Tuesday January 30, 2007 The Guardian Giving birth naturally increases the risk of minor brain haemorrhages in newborn babies, according to a study. Brain scans of babies aged between one and five weeks showed small ruptures in blood vessels in or around the brain are common, affecting one in four children born naturally. Babies delivered by caesarean section showed no signs of even minor bleeding. In most cases, the haemorrhages are harmless and heal naturally, but larger ruptures can affect brain development, leading to seizures, or problems with learning or coordination. Doctors at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, used magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to scan 88 healthy newborns. Of the 65 delivered naturally, 17 had intracranial haemorrhages and seven had ruptures in at least two separate regions. John Gilmore, a professor of psychiatry and lead scientist on the study, said the bleeding was not caused by the size of the baby or the baby's head, the duration of labour, or the use of vacuum or forceps to assist delivery. The bleeds are probably caused by pressure on the skull during delivery, he said. The scientists noticed the high rate of haemorrhages while conducting scans to assess brain development in children perceived to be at high risk of mental disorders. What we've shown is that if you get these bleeds, you don't have to think something has gone wrong with the delivery, because these are common, said Prof Gilmore, whose study is published in Radiology. The team will conduct further scans when the babies are one and two years old. This may help doctors assess future cases of shaken baby syndrome, where injuries to a baby are contested. In some cases, parents or guardians claim brain injuries have been inflicted naturally at birth. The scans may reveal whether small haemorrhages at birth grow to become more threatening, or gradually heal with time. Special reports Medicine and health Useful links British Medical Association Department of Health General Medical Council Health on the Net Foundation Institute of Cancer Research Medical Research Council NHS Direct Royal Institute of Public Health World Health Organisation
Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux
I have one of those coloured charts too - diary of a mad housewife! I always planned to blow it up and make art - its quite graphic and pretty! We could have an exhibition! mine did help explain to the Child Health nurse that - yes my baby never slept for 45 mins at a time then and hour of crying...for 7 months! I am absolutely convinced now that im more informed that it was REFLUX even though every one said its over diagnosed and mythological at the time. Sitting up, eating solids, general maturation of the oesophageal sphincter all helped and proved retrospectively what the prob was. If only some one had diagnosed it earlier and i had treated with homeopathics (and ive heard a great Bowen therapy technique helps too) I might have had a second baby after all ! Love suzi - Original Message - From: MHOOK To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I don't know about over-diagnosis- my second baby (now 17) had reflux and it made her first six months the worst of my life. I'd had a perfectly normal time with my first baby, he was unsettled like most and woke at night until over 12 months but I considered that that was normal and looked forward to my second child with pleasure and anticipation. It was a nightmare- not hte birth, that was fine, but from about 3 weeks of age she screamed constantly, vomitted even while attached to the breast, never slept for more than 10 minutes at a time day or night- no one understood how terrible it was, she was obviously in pain, poor mite; my toddler was seriously shortchanged because how can you leave a child who is shrieking with pain to go and play with the other one. Just things like the carpet (whole house was carpeted, even the kitchen) being simply filthy from her constant vomiting, which was not projectile but which managed to defeat the towels etc I had strategically placed. The crying got me down dreadfully, this was nothing like I'd experienced with my first child. There was just no way to soothe her. I still have a colour chart I filled out at that time, showing her behaviour in ten minute slots over a week to show the baby health sister- red for unsettled, blue for feeding, green for sleeping etc. That sounds excessive but truly, I felt I needed evidence for people to believe me; they said things like, Oh yes it's difficult with two, in a patronising way as if it was just me not coping with an unsettled baby when I knew it was more than that. We tried all the normal things, positioning, Early childhood centre, paediatrician, medication, nothing worked. Although she was fully breastfed she had the most atrocious constipation, stools like pieces of chalk that had to be drawn out when half expelled because she couldn't get it out. Finally I went to a homeopathic dr and whatever he gave her (smelt like pure alcohol but I was desperate enough to try anything!) fixed the pain overnight. She still vomitted and still was very wakeful but without the constant crying and pain behaviour it was so much easier to cope with. I'd been told it would probably get better when she was standing up and it did, over about a week all the vomitting etc stopped and life became about a thousand times easier. So I think that 'reflux' is very different from 'unsettled baby' but after what I went through I'd be inclined to give any mother who said her baby had reflux the benefit of the doubt, and the offer of a little help. Monica - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Reflux Just found this article whilst surfing the net. I feel anecdotally that both reflux and colic are overdiagnosed. I am a midwife but not a MCH nurse. If it is so common maybe it IS a normal variation..what do you think about it? It just seems to me that some people aren't happy until they have a label and a medicine to treat it with when they have an unsettled baby. Maybe I am being too simplistic about this subject. Interested in the thoughts of some of our online listers. Helen http://www.bubhub.com.au/newsletterdec0601.shtml Reflux is so common it is almost seen as 'normal', or even trivial, and most people just don't understand how difficult life can be for many families, or understand the impact reflux can have on their lives! They may think of it erroneously as 'just a bit of vomiting', or 'just a behavioural issue'. They don't see how it impacts on the child's eating, sleeping, growth, behaviour or quality of life; or on the family's quality of life, relationships between partners, siblings or other children; finances; and even leisure time. The truth is, only families who have experienced it for themselves really understand. Many families: a.. Have difficulty
[ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi All, Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about special cots to enable mother's to co-sleep in hospital. I have investigated the web sites you suggested, but couldn't find exactly what I wanted. However, I have contacted a manufacturer, who may be able to help. I now have another request.Our maternity unit in Kalgoorlie is in desperate need (who isn't!) of some senior midwives. Keep an eye out for our Secret Midwives Business pamphlet in the next catalogue of Birth International and give me a call if you are interested...It's a great place to work. Cheers Raelene George FACM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article
Who wants to be civilised ? This is our chance to be gorgeously uncivilised, raunchy and wild ! But i do respect her right to choose what she feels is best for her. Suzi - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?article=3614 I just read this article on why a woman chose an elective c-section. She refers to it as being the civilised way to give birth. How awful and I can't believe it was published. Sam. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] lovely breastfeeding story
Something inspiring... Pinky http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2701717page=1
Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux/ chiro
Hi Michelle Suzi and Meg I absolutely agree that some babies do have reflux/ colic -I had one baby who vomited and screamed - baby no 3 - reflux wasnt a diagnosis in those days and I lived through it with her in a sling against my bare skin and a poncho over both of us. I actually wasnt worried that she had 'something dreadful' despite the first two being fat happy boys. I do believe allergies contributed - but certainly didnt have Michelle's experience of constipation as well. I would never undermine a mother's claim of 'reflux' -but I do seem to find that aboiut 2/ 3 of babies in my massage classes have been diagnosed AND medicated for reflux so I wonder if some of these are more of an 'unsettled' baby rather than a truly distressed one - there are definitely degrees eg the definition of colic - 3 hours of crying, 3 days a week for 3 weeks - I dont think two hours screaming is any fun for any mum but does she miss out on support if her baby cries less than the definition?. Or are there are other contributing causes to the crying that are simply being palmed off as 'reflux'. I believe what mums say and would especially never question a mum of multiples as having unrealistic expectations as they have comparison of their own previous experience. Perhaps I only see more desperate people and many mums are very isolated - who is taking a screaming baby out? In such cases it isnt easy for a tired, worried mum to see what is a range of baby behaviour when you are adjusting to a whole new life. Re the chiro - I had suggested to this particular mum ( with breech bub) that perhaps a chiro or osteopath would be helpful ( I was thinking more of hip/ nerve pinching) . Could an arm have been up by babys head and 'squashed'?? I havent seen the mum privately to ask this - when I asked did he favour one side/ seem more unsettled on a particular side, she didnt know as according to her, he was always so miserable that she couldnt tell and prescribed reflux meds werent helping. She is a vet herself so made her own choices. The chiro I referred to is paed trained (not many are), married to an osteopath and very gentle with babies -I have heard him speak ( he has spoken to midwives at RWH Melbourne) and seen him work ( on my own child and grandchild who was a gentle waterbirth but commando crawling asymmetrically, using one leg only - pushed off with the opposite leg a couple of days later ?? coincidence or treatment, I guess we wont know but I have seen 'slower' babies crawl the same week as a treatment) . I used to be a skeptic myself and would never refer to anybody I wasn't very confident about- even then I am gentle about suggesting anybody other than MCH: LC or GP - However, I have seen some wonderful results both from this particular chiro and some osteopaths - eg babies who favour one side/ positional turns and in particular one baby who was very 'sicky' dribbly and a very slow feeder (already on bottle before I met him) - baby came without his bib to class and I commented -I didnt know he had been to the chiro. The parents beaming, said, we took him to Braden yesterday and he feeds in twenty minutes now and has stopped vomiting/ dribbling. Pinky - Original Message - From: suzi and brett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I have one of those coloured charts too - diary of a mad housewife! I always planned to blow it up and make art - its quite graphic and pretty! We could have an exhibition! mine did help explain to the Child Health nurse that - yes my baby never slept for 45 mins at a time then and hour of crying...for 7 months! I am absolutely convinced now that im more informed that it was REFLUX even though every one said its over diagnosed and mythological at the time. Sitting up, eating solids, general maturation of the oesophageal sphincter all helped and proved retrospectively what the prob was. If only some one had diagnosed it earlier and i had treated with homeopathics (and ive heard a great Bowen therapy technique helps too) I might have had a second baby after all ! Love suzi - Original Message - From: MHOOK To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I don't know about over-diagnosis- my second baby (now 17) had reflux and it made her first six months the worst of my life. I'd had a perfectly normal time with my first baby, he was unsettled like most and woke at night until over 12 months but I considered that that was normal and looked forward to my second child with pleasure and anticipation. It was a nightmare- not hte birth, that was fine, but from about 3 weeks of age she screamed constantly, vomitted even while attached to the breast, never slept for more than 10 minutes at a time day or night- no one
Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Congratulations to all for following your heart But more importantly for taking responsibility to set you and your family in the best situation for your body to work with your baby for a wonderful start of Esther life on this planet ! This is physiological and what should be the common birth experience for our healthy community !! Denise Hynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Dan Rachael Austin To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived Congradulations Philippa, such beautiful news. Welcome earthside little Serena. Enjoy your baby moon! Love, Rachael - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Alan Linda Trewern ; Anke ; Cathy Styles ; CBI Students ; Debbie Holland ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Emma Chadwick ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MARIE MCAULIFFE ; 'Mary Emeleus' ; Melissa Hooper ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmidwifery ; Shelley Todd ; Teri Shilling ; Tracy and Michael Alloway ; Tracy Cox Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville __ NOD32 1.1725 (20060825) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 4/02/2007
RE: [ozmidwifery] Marvellous mothers milk
You go girl! Tania x _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 10:45 AM To: ozmidwifery Subject: [ozmidwifery] Marvellous mothers milk Thought you might enjoy a story on my breastmilk curing my sons eye infection. My 7 year old has an infection in a gland under his eyelid and after an initial miss-diagnosis of conjunctivitis by a GP, I discovered a sore on his inner eyelid. (mothers make better GP's sometimes) Another appt at GP's and was offered a 6 day course of antibiotics or bathe the eye every half hour with salt water and wait and see. I had already told GP I had started using breastmilk in his eye, to which was the expected blank look and no further mention. So off I go with script incase and home to bathe away with my milk. After doing this all day yesterday, my son's eye is drastically better and with further care today, all will be healed. No antibiotics and a win for breastmilk. I plan on writing this GP a letter telling him that I used breastmilk instead of salt water or antibiotics and perhaps in future he may consider it a worthy treatment. To support my non-scientific therapy is there any articles spelling out how this can work which I could include in my letter? (Of course mothers have used their milk for treating eyes and whatever else forever) Thanks in advance Megan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 4/02/2007 1:30 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 4/02/2007 1:30 AM
RE: [ozmidwifery] Reflux
In my experience as Midwife/LC I have seen some great results from an Osteo who practiced Cranio-Sacral Therapy (CST) on babies and children. I have referred quite a few babies to her with great improvements in suck, overall muscle tone and more settled babies. Only one baby did not return to breastfeeding (was EBM fed by a very committed mother) and a few months later was found to have a salivary gland cyst that required surgery. This Osteo felt that CST was extremely helpful in babies with reflux due to the involvement of the vagal nerve in reflux. I have yet to twist my brain around the science of it, but it works. Mothers who do go are usually at the end of the road with ideas and when it helps, they are so pleased. I have an article written by an Aussie midwife that supports the use of CST. When I eventually unpack the box (moved late Dec) that it is in, I'll have a reference for it if anyone is interested. Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Windsor Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux Hi All, I'm not sure if this has come up on the list before but has anyone else heard of success for reflux/colic from osteopaths? When I was working in Darwin there was an osteopath who had done further studies in treatment for babies, and had had some good success according to the midwives and some of the new mums. Her theory was that the vagus nerve (controls vomiting etc) could be affected during the birth and by some very gentle massage/treatment of the back of the neck that it could be put right. She said that generally it took only 4 treatments and once put right should stay that way. It seems to make sense when you think about the stress put on the neck during instrumental and caesar births (or even normal births when someone restitutes the head the wrong way and then pulls!) Anyway, some of the mums swear by it, they say they had babies that basically didn't sleep and after the first treatment, slept 5 hours straight. Cheers Michelle - Original Message From: MHOOK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, 3 February, 2007 12:28:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I don't know about over-diagnosis- my second baby (now 17) had reflux and it made her first six months the worst of my life. I'd had a perfectly normal time with my first baby, he was unsettled like most and woke at night until over 12 months but I considered that that was normal and looked forward to my second child with pleasure and anticipation. It was a nightmare- not hte birth, that was fine, but from about 3 weeks of age she screamed constantly, vomitted even while attached to the breast, never slept for more than 10 minutes at a time day or night- no one understood how terrible it was, she was obviously in pain, poor mite; my toddler was seriously shortchanged because how can you leave a child who is shrieking with pain to go and play with the other one. Just things like the carpet (whole house was carpeted, even the kitchen) being simply filthy from her constant vomiting, which was not projectile but which managed to defeat the towels etc I had strategically placed. The crying got me down dreadfully, this was nothing like I'd experienced with my first child. There was just no way to soothe her. I still have a colour chart I filled out at that time, showing her behaviour in ten minute slots over a week to show the baby health sister- red for unsettled, blue for feeding, green for sleeping etc. That sounds excessive but truly, I felt I needed evidence for people to believe me; they said things like, Oh yes it's difficult with two, in a patronising way as if it was just me not coping with an unsettled baby when I knew it was more than that. We tried all the normal things, positioning, Early childhood centre, paediatrician, medication, nothing worked. Although she was fully breastfed she had the most atrocious constipation, stools like pieces of chalk that had to be drawn out when half expelled because she couldn't get it out. Finally I went to a homeopathic dr and whatever he gave her (smelt like pure alcohol but I was desperate enough to try anything!) fixed the pain overnight. She still vomitted and still was very wakeful but without the constant crying and pain behaviour it was so much easier to cope with. I'd been told it would probably get better when she was standing up and it did, over about a week all the vomitting etc stopped and life became about a thousand times easier. So I think that 'reflux' is very different from 'unsettled baby' but after what I went through I'd be inclined to give any mother who said her baby had reflux the benefit of the doubt, and the offer of a little help. Monica - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
RE: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived
Congratulations on a beautiful birth and another girl in your family. How wonderful for Serena to have two older sisters that were there for her birth. Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippa Scott Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alan Linda Trewern; Anke; Cathy Styles; CBI Students; Debbie Holland; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Emma Chadwick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MARIE MCAULIFFE; 'Mary Emeleus'; Melissa Hooper; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmidwifery; Shelley Todd; Teri Shilling; Tracy and Michael Alloway; Tracy Cox Subject: [ozmidwifery] Serena Esther arrived Hi all, I thought you would all like to know that Serena Esther Scott was born gently and beautifully into the water at home on 1/02/2007. She was a lovely 9pnd 7oz or 4280grams (my biggest by far). It was a perfect birth for us with no tears or bleeds or anything else to necessitate the need for assistance. As you can imagine I am on a high. Alana Brianna watched with awe and excitement and are talking about it lot. It was so wonderful to have them there. Trevor is finally convinced home water birth is the way to go, he was terrific. All my women folk where as amazing as I knew they would be I am so blessed to have friends such as these. The experience would not have been the same with out them. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
