RE: [ozmidwifery] ? subscription renewal
Jan Be careful the address on your email is not the same as the address as the address on the email I got Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:26 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] ? subscription renewal Hello to all at ozmidwifery I'm already a subscriber and wonder if the copied email below is legit or should I be wary of it? Regards Jan Hello We have received a request to subscribe the following email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the Ozmidwifery mailing list. We need to make sure you want this subscription. If you do wish to subscribe, click the following link to confirm: http://cgi.mail-list.com/r?ln=ozmidwiferyrn=s02121228582410 Or, if you prefer, Reply to this message and send it back to us without altering it. If this is all a mistake or you no longer wish to subscribe, simply ignore this message. If you suspect someone may be abusing your email address, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with complete details. Regards The team @ Birth International Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] ? subscription renewal
Jan The difference is in the numbers at the end of the link. It could be just because of our different user names. Here is a later post related to this. Maybe this way is a safer option Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get off the list. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to on/off the digest mode. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to turn on/off vacation mode. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you need assistance or have a question. Also you need to change your ozmid address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:26 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] ? subscription renewal Hello to all at ozmidwifery I'm already a subscriber and wonder if the copied email below is legit or should I be wary of it? Regards Jan Hello We have received a request to subscribe the following email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the Ozmidwifery mailing list. We need to make sure you want this subscription. If you do wish to subscribe, click the following link to confirm: http://cgi.mail-list.com/r?ln=ozmidwiferyrn=s02121228582410 Or, if you prefer, Reply to this message and send it back to us without altering it. If this is all a mistake or you no longer wish to subscribe, simply ignore this message. If you suspect someone may be abusing your email address, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with complete details. Regards The team @ Birth International Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ
I would need to send them as an attachment as they are in PDF format. I will try to send them this evening when the new system is up and running Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen and Graham Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2007 08:21 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ Could you send them to the list Alan? Helen - Original Message - From: Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ Hi Shelly I have got the awards for Queensland and New South Wales. Although the New south Wales one is dated Dec 2004. These awards set out the working conditions and include the pay rates. I could send them to you of list if you would like. Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michelle gascoigne Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 06:38 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ I am searching the web looking at midwifery jobs in OZ. Most do not have pay scales. Do you have a standard scale in OZ? If so where might I find a copy of that? In England ours can be found by looking up Agenda For Change on the web. Most midwives are on band 6 which is currently £22,886-£31,004 per annum plus extra duty payment for weekends nights and on calls. That converts to about $57,775-$78,276. Thanks Shelly __ NOD32 2042 (20070206) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ
Hi Shelly I have got the awards for Queensland and New South Wales. Although the New south Wales one is dated Dec 2004. These awards set out the working conditions and include the pay rates. I could send them to you of list if you would like. Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michelle gascoigne Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 06:38 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwifery pay scales in OZ I am searching the web looking at midwifery jobs in OZ. Most do not have pay scales. Do you have a standard scale in OZ? If so where might I find a copy of that? In England ours can be found by looking up Agenda For Change on the web. Most midwives are on band 6 which is currently £22,886-£31,004 per annum plus extra duty payment for weekends nights and on calls. That converts to about $57,775-$78,276. Thanks Shelly
[ozmidwifery] RE:
I'm on my way down to VIC in the next couple of weeks. When do you need someone for? Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:28 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Hi all, Am looking for a midwife/doula that will visit Ararat. Can anyone help??? Cheers Amanda. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE:
I would be available Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 21:25 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: October Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:38:14 +1100 I'm on my way down to VIC in the next couple of weeks. When do you need someone for? Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:28 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Hi all, Am looking for a midwife/doula that will visit Ararat. Can anyone help??? Cheers Amanda. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_ t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE:
Midwife Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 08:38 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: As a midwife or a doula?? Thanks so much. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:31:00 +1100 I would be available Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 21:25 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: October Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:38:14 +1100 I'm on my way down to VIC in the next couple of weeks. When do you need someone for? Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:28 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Hi all, Am looking for a midwife/doula that will visit Ararat. Can anyone help??? Cheers Amanda. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_ t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_ t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2 Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fa i%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] *stretchy* cervix
It means that your cervix is soft and should dilate quite quickly with a little stimulation from your baby _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 10:52 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] *stretchy* cervix Hi all, Can anyone please explain to me what is meant when a MW does a VE and says the cervix is 6cm dilated but can be stretched to 8cm... Is this significant of something or just a passing comment? Many thanks, Kristin _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://g.msn.com/8HMAENAU/2746??PS=47575 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Urgently required midwife for 4 - 6 week locum in caseload mid model Victoria
I could get there by the middle of Feb if that is any help Alan _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2006 14:46 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgently required midwife for 4 - 6 week locum in caseload mid model Victoria Crikeys!!! That is urgent!. N/A until 1st March and even then would need to negitiate LWOP from my employer...which is not out of the question. - Original Message - From: Helen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and Graham To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgently required midwife for 4 - 6 week locum in caseload mid model Victoria We would need someone from about New Year's Day onwards but it is negotiable. Even if you couldn't get here that soon - it would be OK. Thanks Helen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgently required midwife for 4 - 6 week locum in caseload mid model Victoria What dates are you looking at filling? - Original Message - From: Helen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and Graham To: ozmidwifery mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Urgently required midwife for 4 - 6 week locum in caseload mid model Victoria Hi Listers Any experienced midwives out there like a 4 - 6 week opportunity to be involved in a caseload midwife program in ASAP in Portland Victoria? We have had an unexpected rise in late booking ins and desperately need a midwife. The locum would definitely be with a view to staying on permanently if they enjoyed the trial period. Please email or contact me on 03 55232313 or 0429600428 for more information. Thanks in advance Helen _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: 12/23/2006 __ NOD32 1936 (20061223) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: 12/23/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group.
Good luck with this support group Philippa. I do think there is a need for this in Townsville. Hope you are keeping well. regards Linda Trewern - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: Philippa Scott Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After C-Section Information and Support group. Hello, I am contacting you to let you know that I am forming a Birth after C-Section information and support group. The idea behind this group is to give women (and their partners if they would like to) an opportunity to speak to others that are interested or experienced in VBAC (Vaginal birth after 1 or more C-Sections) and the options available. We will explore the facts, the myths, the fears and the emotions that surround this decision and it will be a supportive place for people to search for answers. We welcome those that are already pregnant and those who are considering their options for a planned pregnancy or anywhere in-between. This group will run once per month unless the group would like to meet fortnightly instead. In order to run in the best interests of all we would prefer that participants give themselves a couple of child free hours to focus on themselves, however we welcome babies. The first gathering will be on Thursday the 23rd of November at 7:30pm. Location - Shop 6/16 Brampton Street, Cranbrook in the Kids in Harmony Centre. RSVP Philippa Scott 47734075 or 0407648349 by the 22nd of November (the meeting will only go ahead if you let me know youre coming) Cost - $10 per person / $15 per couple, concession $8 per person / $12 per couple. Please feel free to pass this invitation along to anyone you think it may benefit. As this is just kicking off your feedback on times and dates is also appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards Philippa ScottBirth Buddies - DoulaAssisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour.President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville This is for The Townsville and Thuringowa region in Queensland, Australia. Some who receive this email will do so because it may be a resource they can direct people to. Thank you.
Re: [ozmidwifery] pain
Sounds like an activity to take your mind off the other pain, although many years ago I attended a forum on Chinese medicine and the medical doctor who spoke, encouraged people to tap the lower 3rd of the sternum daily for good health. I did it for a while but felt no different. Regards Linda - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:03 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] pain I wonder if this works? The Art of Midwifery For all kinds of pain, including postpartum pains, using the index finger, tap firmly (not hard enough to leave marks/bruises) right on, around and under the cheek bone, going back and forth on each side of your face. Tap, tap, tap tap on the right side, then tap, tap, tap tap on the left, and back again. If you do this while nursing, the pain slides away. It's a cheap and easy remedy. All you need is a finger! Anon Midwifery Today Forums
Re: [ozmidwifery] high GTT result?
Where I work, the endocrinologist regards anything 7.7 ( at 2hrs) as Gestational Diabetes and the women are then transferred into a diabetic antenatal clinic where they regularly see the diabetic educator midwife who assesses their records of home monitoring of blood glucose levels. A small number go on to require insulin Regards Linda - Original Message - From: McAlpine, Joan (AHS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] high GTT result? Hi Janet, The 1 hour result is irrelevant. It is the 2 hour that counts as they aren't able to utilise and excrete the excess sugar. So, she needs a consult with a GDM midwife or endocrinologist (whatever you have)if her fasting BSL is 5.5 or her 2 hour is 8. I hope that is clearer. Joan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Judy Chapman Sent: Monday, 15 May 2006 20:12 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] high GTT result? Need more info. Is that the one hour result or the two hour result. If it is the two hour result she needs a consultation with a diabetic nurse or Dr and it is high. Cheers Judy --- Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, can someone clue me in on what's considered a high result to get from the GTT? I have a woman wanting to swap to hb from a BC where her GTT result is considered dangerously high and she's been told she's highrisk. It was 9.8. Thanks! : ) J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Yahoo!7 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want! http://www.yahoo7.com.au/360 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us by return e-mail and delete the document. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Eastern Health is not liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication or for any delay in its receipt. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] BF videos
I like Getting it right by Sue Cox. Most mums find it easy to follow. From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2006 12:00 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] BF videos Can anyone recommend a really good BF video..?? I have only seen Follow Me Mum which I liked very much (altho the bub was not newborn?). Are there any other good ones to chase up? Thanks -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] insulin dependant diabetics
Hi Maxine, At Townsville Hospital, women who are insulin dependant see the lactation consultant ante-natally and if they are planning to breast feed, she discusses the option of expressing and freezing in case her baby needs it. These babies always go to the nursery for observation and get regular blood glucose tests done. I think they start expressing from 36 weeks but not if a history of prem labors. Hope this helps. regards Linda - Original Message - From: Maxine Wilson To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] insulin dependant diabetics Has anyone any information they can share regarding the management of newborns of insulin dependent diabetics? In particular I am looking for information regarding prenatal expressing of colostrum in order to feed it to the babe in place of formula. If anyone knows of any hospital that is doing this I would really appreciate some leads that I can follow up as I have a client in this situation who is trying to expand her options. Maxine
RE: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar
Weight gain is good. Baby is settled between feeds and has no signs of discomfort when awake. Plenty wet nappies. Dr wanted to start coloxyl drops today (10 drops per feed) he has agreed to hold off until tomorrow. I have shown mum and other staff members leg exercises and abdo massage. I have asked then to do the exercise and massage prior to each feed. Hopefully this will give us the desired result before we have to give the poor thing coloxyl. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris Bright Sent: Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:47 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar Hi, I'd like to have a good look at the situation before doing anything. It's a bit tricky seeing that the baby was born at 28 weeks, and is now 36 weeks. So it's 8 weeks old. I feel that it is more normal for a young fully breastfed baby to have a number of stools per day - at least one. Around 8 weeks or older this could change to one every couple of days or week or more. But, what have the baby's weight gains been like? A cause of lack of stools in a young baby can be not enough milk. I'd like to rule this out before anything else. What are the stools like when the baby does go? What is the baby's behaviour. Is it very irritable and unsettled? How many feeds does it take per day? Is it abnormally settled It's a cultural belief that a sleepy baby is a good baby. Have you seen the Australian Breastfeeding Association's *poo chart*? A fabulous resource. $15 for 100 tear off sheets showing normal baby poos and excellent confidence building tips on breastfeeding You can purchase through the Lactation Resource Centre. They also have an excellent Hot Topic paper on bowel habits in babies. Might be worth having a read. I couldn't find it on the website, but the phone number for the LRC is (03) 55658 602 Barb - Original Message - From: Jennifairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] brown sugar The Fairbairn Family wrote: more than a week without a bowel movement is not unusual = fully breastfed - but if concerned about constipation - a small amount of orange juice (natural) would prove the point.. - Original Message - *From:* Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Ozmidwifery mailto:ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2006 5:00 PM *Subject:* [ozmidwifery] brown sugar Can anyone point me to some research re brown sugar use for constipation? I have just started work at a small country hospital. A baby, after being born at 28 weeks has been returned to us. (now 36 weeks). This baby has not had a bowel motion for 7 days. After 3 days the doctor ordered ¼ tsp of brown sugar every second feed. This baby is being fed by EBM only. I told the doctor that it is not unusual for babies who are on breast milk often go for a week without passing a stool and was told that is rubbish. They should go every couple of days. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/296 - Release Date: 29/03/2006 This is interesting as I have seen a woman baby just this week at home - fully formula fed at Day 3 when I first saw them (on paed's advice, for no apparent reason, but then also had a IOL at 38+2 because her obstetrician 'offered it', citing the story of his niece whose baby died in utero at 40+2), not interested in breast feeding (the mum of course), so of course by day 5 the babe had not had a bowel movement since mec at birth mum had decided to chuck in a 1/4 teaspoon of brown sugar with each feed. I too would like some references or at least some advice from an LC re what info to offer these mums! For what its worth, on the fully breast fed bowel timing thread, my oldest daughter went for about 4 months with a weekly poo (yep, Fridays were 'be ready to catch the immense amount of shit' day). Constantly amazed me where it all came from. Fully breast fed, by the end of that time she literally looked like Michelin Girl - more chins than a chinese phone book, as they say. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Womens Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored
[ozmidwifery] brown sugar
Can anyone point me to some research re brown sugar use for constipation? I have just started work at a small country hospital. A baby, after being born at 28 weeks has been returned to us. (now 36 weeks). This baby has not had a bowel motion for 7 days. After 3 days the doctor ordered ¼ tsp of brown sugar every second feed. This baby is being fed by EBM only. I told the doctor that it is not unusual for babies who are on breast milk often go for a week without passing a stool and was told that is rubbish. They should go every couple of days.
Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia
Anne I'm really sorry to read of your situation and your distress. Here in Townsville we hope to get a birth centre fairly soon and have looked to your centre for inspiration. I know some of the women from our Friends of the BC have been down there to see your unit. Just knowing that your unit existed gave us hope for one of our own. I hope you are all able to hold on and things will get better soon Linda - Original Message - From: Anne Clarke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia Dear Sally, You probably have this info. and as yet they (hosp.)haven't changed our model of care, but they are trying. Using the recommendations from the review and twisting them to theirown advantage, they just won't listen to us. Two of our most experienced Midwives have left and more are thinking of going, it's heartbreaking as we are being destroyed at the moment. I am in tears right now typing this :( Birth Centre (at least for now) RBWH Butterfield Street, Brisbane PH: 36368966 RegardsAnne Clarke
RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
Yes Megan I saw it and I was shouting at the TV get her off the bed or at least get her on hands and knees. But yo are right. It was TV. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:07 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour My hospital born baby, induction by gels, 8hr labour, synto to birth placenta had jaundice. My 3 water births at home, 1 same length and 2 shorter labours, no intervention, placenta attached around 3 hours after birth, no jaundice. Too many variables to suggest its one cause. Off topic, did anyone see the birth on All Saints last night? Seen worse, but could have got her off the bed or at least on her front. Nice to hear the male nurse (ex-midwife?) use a calming voice and somewhat supporting to her needs, still TV loves to make it so exciting. Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for longer..(that the usual standards) . That makes complete sense to me, since they get more blood than babes that had cords clamped and cut quickley. I'm sure I read somewhere that babies are deprived of as much as 25% of their blood volume by cutting the cord. Nearly everyone I know that did not cut the cord, had babies that developed Jaundice. Nothing serious just yellowing. - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or not Two of these are 1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take ages to be efficient enough to clear the jaundice. 2. Not passing mec soon after birth. The longer the mec stays inside the more bilirubin is reabsorbed increasing the workload of the immature system. This is usually influenced by how quickly the baby is able to feed. The thing about synt is that it is often used to augment labour in a woman who has been labouring for hours or to induce labour in a woman who is not yet ready to go into labour and the result is a tired mother and baby who often dont come together well to feed without good assistance. This is often not forthcoming in the hurry to get things cleaned up, the move to the postnatal ward and paper work to be done. Ask your friend and she will probably not have seen jaundice in a woman who has had synt but had a quick labour. Most women who birth in hospitals have synt in some form or other for 3rd stage and the level of jaundice in some settings is very low. I would suggest it may be in direct relationship to the length of time until feeding is established. I think the whole reason synt is being used is the concern rather than blaming the synt for jaundice alone. Andrea Q On 06/10/2005, at 2:03 AM, Belinda wrote: I have a friend who has been a ipm for many years and she believes that babies are more likely to get jaundiced when the mother has had synto, it makes sense of they get that extra unneccessary boost of blood. Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 4/10/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Here's to you
Title: FW: Here's to you Hm Not sure if I wanted to see this. L But it is good J Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:58 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Here's to you HERE'S TO YOU !!! National Girlfriend and Sister's Week I am only as strong as the coffee I drink, the hairspray I use and the friends I have. To the cool women that have touched my life. Here's to you! National Girlfriends Day What would most of us do without our sisters, confidants and shopping, lunching, and travelling girls? Let's celebrate each other for each other's sake! TO MY GIRLFRIENDS! If you get this twice you know you have more than one girlfriend. Be Happy! PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ALL OF YOUR GIRLFRIENDS AND RETURN IT TO THE FRIEND WHO SENT IT TO YOU! It is good to be a woman: 1. We got off the Titanic first. 2. We can scare male bosses with the mysterious gynecological disorder excuses. 3. Taxis stop for us. 4. We don't look like a frog in a blender when dancing. 5. No fashion faux pas we make, could ever rival the Speedo. 6. We don't have to pass gas to amuse ourselves. 7. If we forget to shave, no one has to know. 8. We have the ability to dress ourselves. 9. We can talk to the opposite sex without having to picture them naked. 10. If we marry someone 20 years younger, we are aware that we will look like an idiot. 11. We will never regret piercing our ears. 12. There are times when chocolate really can solve all your problems. 13. We can make comments about how silly men are in their presence because they aren't listening anyway. Send this to all the bright women you know and make their day! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of Forwarded Message
RE: [ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie birthing services?
Hi Suzi Where is that place in the desert that you can recommend? I am currently traveling around Aust and I am always interested in places with good accommodation. Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of suzi and brett Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 12:46 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie birthing services? Hi Tania, I did a placement at Kalgoolie hospital18 monthsago for 2 weeks and its comparitively a pretty good place to birth, a great history of low intervention, lowest cs rate in the country one year. There is a birth centre type room, and a few other birthing rooms - and all the midwives were fantastic - of course as in most regional hospitals there was the call the dr when HOV routine,but if things were going well they were happy to keep out..but the antenatal care was done through the GPs. a new Ob was appointed in Jan 2004 so im not sure if his influence has been positive but would be happy to talk to you about my impressions if you wanna give me a ring 82415103 or you have my email address.(or pass on to theother woman) I didn't hear of any homebirth IPM's when i was there. For any interested travelling midwives: i can recommend it as a great place to work and play (lots of pubs!) in the beautiful red desert, and they offer stints for as little as 3 months with excellent accomodation. the midwifery manager is a very supportive woman. Cheers Suzi Hoff - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Kalgoorlie birthing services? Are there any IPMs out there near Kalgoorlie? Is there a birthing centre, or even a labour ward? Im completely in the dark and would like to pass on some information if there is any Thanks Tania
RE: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet
Burning it on to a CD is a great idea. I would be interested in a copy Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Sunday, 2 October 2005 22:31 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC booklet Hi to everyone who has requested a copy of the booklet. I am waiting on Carolyn to come back from a well deserved holiday so we can confirm the cost for the booklet. Hard copies will be pricey due to the size of the booklet and postage, so I am investigating th option of burning it onto a CD which people can the use to run their own copies off. Would this be a more suitable option for people or would yu prefer hard copies? I have taken you names and such and will send an email out with all the confirmed details. Thanks for your support! Cheers Jo CARES SA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman
Hi Pinky, I would like to receive your handouts also at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you Linda - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman Thanks too kelly I have been neglecting my webiste - but you may like to read two new articles I have just put up -one on Birth Unplanned (one of my columns from Practical Parenting -I only get 500 words so can only skim a surface but at least can raise issues) in the pregnancy section and an article that was published in the September edition re The Language of Tears.(see baby section) I also have some handouts that I am happy to email offlist to anybody who would like them to print out for parents - Give me some respect (also on my site but handout is properly designed) and 15 Ways to Help your baby sleep (basic tips) plus 15 Ways to Calm the Crying. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman Completely agree Janet... So how's the weather over there? Hehehehe :) Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 10:48 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman I saw it, Brenda, and I thought extremely well of you for it. And hey, it's no bad thing to keep this subject heading flying back and forth a bit ; ) : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman
Hi Pinky I would love a copy if possible [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 11:29 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman Thanks too kelly I have been neglecting my webiste - but you may like to read two new articles I have just put up -one on Birth Unplanned (one of my columns from Practical Parenting -I only get 500 words so can only skim a surface but at least can raise issues) in the pregnancy section and an article that was published in the September edition re The Language of Tears.(see baby section) I also have some handouts that I am happy to email offlist to anybody who would like them to print out for parents - Give me some respect (also on my site but handout is properly designed) and 15 Ways to Help your baby sleep (basic tips) plus 15 Ways to Calm the Crying. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman Completely agree Janet... So how's the weather over there? Hehehehe :) Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 10:48 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman I saw it, Brenda, and I thought extremely well of you for it. And hey, it's no bad thing to keep this subject heading flying back and forth a bit ; ) : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 23/09/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] postings
I have not received any postings for the past 2 days is there something wrong with the system? Alan
Re: [ozmidwifery] postings
Alan there has been mail over the past 2 days. Maybe a problem with your end Linda - Original Message - From: Alan Rooney To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] postings I have not received any postings for the past 2 days is there something wrong with the system? Alan
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re-learning how to do breech births
Andrea, I'd like to add my voice to Judys and say yes we would be interested in North Queensland for a breech workshop. Either Townsville or Cairns. I think it would appeal to remote area midwives too Linda Trewern - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:43 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re-learning how to do breech births Hello listers, Yesterday I was talking to Maggie Banks about scheduling some more of her wonderful Birthspirit Intensive workshops for 2006. We hope to take in Adelaide and Brisbane as well as Sydney and Melbourne next year, given their enormous popularity (still a few places left in the December program: http://www.birthinternational.com/event/intensives2005/index.html Anyway, she mentioned that she now has a program designed to teach midwives how to manage breech births, that is in the process of being fully credentialled through the NZ College of Midwifery. She is now touring NZ offering this program so that midwives feel confident in facilitating this kind of birth, if it happens. Would there be enough interest in Australia for me to approach her to present some of these workshops here? It would make a very good alternative to the ALSO program, and is completely midwifery based. As far as I know, it is a one day program too. There has been quite a lot of discussion about breech births on the list and the loss of skills as a result of the swing towards C/Sec. This might be one way to help halt the slide. Please email me if you are interested. My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birds Bees Circa 2005
Sally I love it. :) Alan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sally WestburySent: Tuesday, 30 August 2005 4:41 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birds Bees Circa 2005 Seamless UnityJunior asks his dad, "Daddy, how was I born?" His dad sighs and replies, Ah, my son, I guess one day you would have to find out anyway. Well, you see, your Mom and I first got together in a chat room on MSN. Then I set up a date via e-mail with your mom and we met at a cyber-cafe. We sneaked into a secluded room, where your mother agreed to a download from my hard drive. As soon as I was ready to upload, we discovered that neither one of us had used a firewall, but it was too late to hit the delete button. Six weeks later, your mom sent me an instant message saying that her operating system was showing signs of unauthorized program activity from a self-extracting file which had implanted itself in her BIOS. Then nine months later a little Pop-Up appeared and said: You've Got Male" Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "Learn from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look for wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find it." Lois Wilson
[ozmidwifery] BF video
Thank you Vedrana. I just love the vieo Alan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] BF video
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery refresher
Hi Michelle A workmate of mine is currently doing the refresher. She says that she got a CD from ACMI and it cost $60. She also says that there is also a book at an aditional cost. Hope this helps. Alan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Michelle WindsorSent: Monday, 8 August 2005 6:02 PMTo: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery refresher Hi, Have a query from a friend who has been out of mid for about 15 years. She is wondering if anyone knows of any learning packages/modules that she can do to up-date her knowledge and skills. Would appreciate any info that anyone has. Thanks in advance Michelle Do you Yahoo!?Try Yahoo! Photomail Beta: Send up to 300 photos in one email!
RE: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage
Hi Janet I would love a copy of your package Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 9:24 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] physiological 3rd stage This dad then told them that he believed in the benefit of allowing the cord to stop pulsating before cutting it and that he would sue them if they cut the cord unnecessarily. This is pretty much what I teach women about birth although I don't recommend suing all that often ;-). I certainly give the benefits of proceeding as nature has intended with all the built in safeguards but I also provide large documents with the dangers of each intervention. Women are always shocked by how little their hospital has told them. I'm happy to share my "care packages" with anyone who could use them. Best, J
RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models
Hi Carol I will be free at the end of October and would be available to take up a position with your team if there is atill a vacancy then. If you want to talk further you can email me off list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Carol Van LochemSent: Sunday, 12 June 2005 5:39 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models Hi all, I have posted here from time to time, but mostly I'm a lurker. I work in a team midwifery model at Warragul, where we have lots of midwives who believe in continuity of care, support the women as central to the whole prossess and have a supportive obstetrician to back us up. Our problem is in recruiting midwives to work in our model. Nobody wants to do "all that on call".They "want to have a life". After all these years of fighting for this type of thing it seems there are not enough of us around to fill this role. Many support the model in principal, but don't see how they can fit it into their own lives. Our team started just 12 months ago. It is a modified case load, with 1 night per week on call, and 1 weekend a month. We are "available" for our "own" women during the day. We provide midwife led care for up to 60 low risk women per year, and shared care for up to a further 60 "high risk" women who benefit most from having a known midwife with them in labour. We are meant to be 5, but have recently lost one, who would have rather worked as a team only, with no case load. To my knowledge there have been no applications for this position from with in existing staff, nor has there been a response to newspaper ads. It saddens me to think that this type of model will not be sustainable in the long term. Here we are in the position of having active finacial support from DHS after many years of lobbying for it, only to risk losing it all through lack of willing staff. This problem must be coming up for others in Victoria as caseload models are put forward in other regions. Any thoughts, suggestions, simmilar experiences? I am truely at my wits end. Sigh :( Thanks for listening Carol-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] testing again.
Yes Jayne got this one Alan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of jesse/jayneSent: Sunday, 22 May 2005 12:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] testing again. does anyone receive my messges? thanks Jayne
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Disposable bed pan units
Hi Sue I have used the disposable bedpan units in England they are great. Unfortunately I have not seen them here in Australia Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scrosby Sent: 06 February 2005 21:04 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: Disposable bed pan units -- Forwarded Message --- From: scrosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:54:47 +1000 Subject: Disposable bed pan units Hi everyone, me again Does anyone have any experience with the disposable bedpan units and the disposable bedpans and other products which are made out of eggshell type material. We are looking at installing these in our new unit. I can't remember the name of the company we had a demonstration from although the rep assured me that they are quite commonly used in Australia. I am looking for peoples experiences with these units and also what they think of the products and what they use out of the range of products.. Thanks everyone Sue Crosby -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) --- End of Forwarded Message --- -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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[ozmidwifery] Midwifery Lead Care
Hi List I have just started work in a small country hospital. This hospital has decided to change their current practice ofdoctor lead care to midwifery lead care. WOO HOO What I need is some policies. We have one Dr who is against this move and wants to see some policies and procedures before he will commit to the change. Can anyone help me? Thanks Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech.gif
RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium
Hi Leanne If you have a copy on suctioning on the peri I would love a copy of it. We have a couple of doctors here who insist on suctioning on the peri.even if there is no mec. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: 06 December 2004 14:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Hi Sue, It really is a terrific article about birthing in the caul. I'm sure I also have an article somewhere about how suctioning the baby on the peri actually stimulates the baby to take a breath and thus meconium is drawn into the lungs whereas if the baby is not touched just the pressure exerted on the baby's chest by maternal contractions will empty the lungs ... I will do some searching ... I can fax articles to you if you wish or send them by snail mail if that is more convenient - let me know. I will now go and hunt through my filing cabinet for those articles before my next client arrives. Leanne. From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:33:30 +1100 Thanks Leanne, Is there any way I can access that article or acquire a copy of it - I don't have a membership to MIDIRS. There are certainly lots of articles now that don't support routine suctioning of mec-stained babies at head birth, and yet it is still common practice up here in the Northern Rivers Area hospitals. Any feedback from anyone about changing practices in hospital care? Thanks, Sue Hi Sue, An excellent article in MIDIRS Midwifery Digest 14:1 2004 by a midwife cites Houlihan and Knuppel (1994) as showing that meconium is normally passed by the foetus in 3% of cases @ 36 weeks gestation, 13% @ 36 -39 weeks gestation, 19% @ 40 -41 weeks gestation and 23% @ 41 weeks gestation. This does not cause a problem unless the foetus becomes hypoxic. Leanne. From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:30:36 +1100 Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone has information on the incidence of meconium during labour? Anecdotally, I would say around 20%, but wonder if other's practices agree with this figure and if there are any statistics showing a reliable figure? Thanks, Sue Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium
Leanne It will have to be snail-mail Alan Rooney C/- Narrabri Hospital Cammeron St Narrabri 2390 Thanks Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: 07 December 2004 08:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Alan, Do you want it faxed or sent via snail-mail? Leanne From: Alan Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:27:57 +1100 Hi Leanne If you have a copy on suctioning on the peri I would love a copy of it. We have a couple of doctors here who insist on suctioning on the peri.even if there is no mec. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of leanne wynne Sent: 06 December 2004 14:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Hi Sue, It really is a terrific article about birthing in the caul. I'm sure I also have an article somewhere about how suctioning the baby on the peri actually stimulates the baby to take a breath and thus meconium is drawn into the lungs whereas if the baby is not touched just the pressure exerted on the baby's chest by maternal contractions will empty the lungs ... I will do some searching ... I can fax articles to you if you wish or send them by snail mail if that is more convenient - let me know. I will now go and hunt through my filing cabinet for those articles before my next client arrives. Leanne. From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:33:30 +1100 Thanks Leanne, Is there any way I can access that article or acquire a copy of it - I don't have a membership to MIDIRS. There are certainly lots of articles now that don't support routine suctioning of mec-stained babies at head birth, and yet it is still common practice up here in the Northern Rivers Area hospitals. Any feedback from anyone about changing practices in hospital care? Thanks, Sue Hi Sue, An excellent article in MIDIRS Midwifery Digest 14:1 2004 by a midwife cites Houlihan and Knuppel (1994) as showing that meconium is normally passed by the foetus in 3% of cases @ 36 weeks gestation, 13% @ 36 -39 weeks gestation, 19% @ 40 -41 weeks gestation and 23% @ 41 weeks gestation. This does not cause a problem unless the foetus becomes hypoxic. Leanne. From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Incidence of meconium Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:30:36 +1100 Hi everyone, Just wondering if anyone has information on the incidence of meconium during labour? Anecdotally, I would say around 20%, but wonder if other's practices agree with this figure and if there are any statistics showing a reliable figure? Thanks, Sue Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Grammar check for homebirth article
Kylie You could change it to read independent midwives provide one-to-one care to the expecting mother throughout the pregnancy, labour and during the postnatal period. Alan From: owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kylie Carberry Sent: Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Grammar check for homebirth article Sorry that previous one DIDN'T make sense. the correct one is... independent midwives provide one-to-one care to the expecting mother throughout the PREGNANCY, during labour and postnatally Kylie From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Grammar check for homebirth article Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:59:41 -0700 well, I will see if postnatally shows on my spell check... well it seems it doesn't but I don't think that means much!! At least postnatalis a word as is postnatals... My little pocket oxford from1961 doesn't go betond that either... marilyn - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Grammar check for homebirth article Hi everyone As some of you know I am writing an article on homebirthone last question before I submit.Is there such a word as 'postnatally? thanks so much, Kylie Carberry -- All only $4! Get the latest mobile tones, images and logos. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms
Hi Jan you can contact me via email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms Thanks for the offer Alan. I would be very interested in talking to you about the statistics.Please let me know how to contact you privatelyJanJan Robinson Independent Midwife PractitionerNational Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.auOn 10/07/2004, at 10:12 PM, Alan Irene wrote: Hi JanIf you want any assistance with excel I am willing to assistI have a very good working knowledge of excel, however you may be better using access which is a database program and very good at statistical workI could put you a program together that is simple to use but will enable you to pull out in-depth statistical information.If you are interested just let me knowThere will be no chargeAlanFrom:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfJan RobinsonSent:Friday, 9 July 2004 7:29To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary formsHi SueNot sure what birth summary forms are, but my Birth Register is simply an excel spreadsheet with all the details .. name address age etc. all the demographics. then time membranes ruptured (if less than an hour before birth ... etc..) number of vaginal examinations (i love entering zeros!) , length of each stage position for each stage ... time of birth , date of birth lots of stuff plus comments for anything interesting like placentas in situ for eight hours , what we did about it , what type of sutures were used, etc. The reason for it all being on a spreadsheet is so that I can statistically analyse it to get the average age of my clients, average duration of labour, first stage etc. It might be handy one day. I would have to get m y daughter to help me with the analysis as I am not brilliant using Excel, ... one of my clients set it up for me many years ago ... It's easy enough to do if you understand Excel. I think Robyn THompson sets hers up on some similiar type of spreadsheet.. she was going to market it at one stage. Hilda Bastian also had a brilliant one set up to go underd the HBA banner. It was the best idea I had ever seen as it also had the facillity for anylisising social data as well. She was going to get hers to a marketable stage too but then the homebirth movement seemed to crumble temporarily and it has been lost to us. It would be a great project for HBA to tackle, but we could also get the NSWPD people to provide us with a template for their data sheet with add ons. TheUSAmidwives have one that Maralyn Kleidon would know about but she is in the states at the moment. Perhaps we could put pressure on the College to produce a workable one for all homebirth midwives that could be used to collect research data for their IPM Accreditation program that they are getting set up. Lots of possibilitiesDid you get the papers I sent you? We need to get the new forms from Centre Link now.Haven't got mine yet, they tell me they don't have anymore as they had a printing mishap so I will have to go up to my local office to get then.Hope you and Arthur are both well. Give my love to Penny.JanJan Robinson Independent Midwife PractitionerNational Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives8 Robin Crescent SouthHurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.auOn 07/07/2004, at 5:12 PM, Sue Cookson wrote:Hi all,Can anyone email me copies of their birth summary forms please?Am looking to rewrite my own, but would love some of your inspiations and insights.Many thanks,Sue and Penny--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms
Hi Lois I suggest that you use a program called Microsoft Access it is very good at statistics If you want to send me the excel file that you have I could write an access program that will meet your needs and the needs of Jan. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lois Wattis Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms Hello Jan and Alan, I'm very interested in getting my birth stats sorted too. I've got an excel document set up ready to receive my data but haven't yet managed to sit down to put it all in. I think it would be great to have a standardised format for analysis of stats etc and would like the opportunity to share whatever you come up with if possible please. One section I included in my spreadsheet was a column for recording incidence of jaundice,with the intention of comparingit with administration of Vit K, and mode of administration. I've made general observations about this, but would like some stats to examine and develop my thoughts/research. I know Robyn Thompson has a fantastic set up for data management, including interfacing with her electronic 'diary' for automatic download of data! Not quite to that stage yet, but the excel document will be a great start. Best wishes, Lois Wattis, IPM in WA - Original Message - From: Alan and Irene To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms Hi Jan you can contact me via email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms Thanks for the offer Alan. I would be very interested in talking to you about the statistics. Please let me know how to contact you privately Jan Jan Robinson Independent Midwife Practitioner National Coordinator Australian Society of Independent Midwives 8 Robin Crescent South Hurstville NSW 2221 Phone/Fax: 02 9546 4350 e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.midwiferyeducation.com.au On 10/07/2004, at 10:12 PM, Alan Irene wrote: Hi Jan If you want any assistance with excel I am willing to assist I have a very good working knowledge of excel, however you may be better using access which is a database program and very good at statistical work I could put you a program together that is simple to use but will enable you to pull out in-depth statistical information. If you are interested just let me know There will be no charge Alan From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf OfJan Robinson Sent:Friday, 9 July 2004 7:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth summary forms Hi Sue Not sure what birth summary forms are, but my Birth Register is simply an excel spreadsheet with all the details .. name address age etc. all the demographics. then time membranes ruptured (if less than an hour before birth ... etc..) number of vaginal examinations (i love entering zeros!) , length of each stage position for each stage ... time of birth , date of birth lots of stuff plus comments for anything interesting like placentas in situ for eight hours , what we did about it , what type of sutures were used, etc. The reason for it all being on a spreadsheet is so that I can statistically analyse it to get the average age of my clients, average duration of labour, first stage etc. It might be handy one day. I would have to get m y daughter to help me with the analysis as I am not brilliant using Excel, ... one of my clients set it up for me many years ago ... It's easy enough to do if you understand Excel. I think Robyn THompson sets hers up on some similiar type of spreadsheet.. she was going to market it at one stage. Hilda Bastian also had a brilliant one set up to go underd the HBA banner. It was the best idea I had ever seen as it also had the facillity for anylisising social data as well. She was going to get hers to a marketable stage too but then the homebirth movement seemed to crumble temporarily and it has been lost to us. It would be a great project for HBA to tackle, but we could also get the NSWPD people to provide us with a template for their data sheet with add ons. TheUSAmidwives have one that Maralyn Kleidon would know about but she is in the states at the moment. Perhaps we could put pressure on the College to produce a workable one for all homebirth midwives that could be used to collect research data for their IPM Accreditation program that they are getting set up. Lots of possibilities Did you get the papers I sent you? We need to get the new forms from Centre Link now. Haven't got mine yet, they tell me they don't have anymore as they had a printing mishap so I will have to go up to my local office to get then. Hope you and Arthur are both well. Give my love
RE: [ozmidwifery] Vitamin K
Hi Kim Yes we do give the vitamin K injection within a few hours of birth. The heel prick test is usually done on the third day after birth Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Hunter Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Vitamin K Hi everyone, I was hoping you wouldn't mind answering a question I have. I have been doing a bit of study over the past 18 months and two of my subjects are AnatPhys and Pathology. Recently, in class vitamin K injections became the topic of conversation and when asked whether midwives would administer the vitamin K shot or not my lecturer, who is also an anesthetist, advised of course they would, along with the heel prick test. Can you tell me, is this actually true. I'd love to hear your feedback. Regards Kim Your friendly list admin :-) --- Kim Hunter List Administration Birth International ACE Graphics and Associates in Childbirth Education http://www.birthinternational.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] knitted breasts
Hi Alesa, I am a student midwife and would love a copy of the pattern for the knitted breasts if you have one. - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] knitted breasts Love the boxes Barb I knitted my own several years ago -got the pattern from a friend- again in many non human colours with nipple variations and use them in CBE classes with good effect. They work well to illustrate lots of points about breastfeeding, thoroughly recommend a set or two as a teaching tool ...must package them a bit more excitingly though, currently they live in a pillowcase!! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne - Original Message - From: " barbara glare chris bright" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ozmidwifery" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] knitted breasts Hi, I just have to tell you about this! They are really cool Knitted Breasts. I got mine this morning, and they are great. A variety of colours and shapes. http://www.starwon.com.au/~delma/pageseven.htm Love, Barb -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:first breastfeed
Dear Lieve, I would also like to read your paper if Aviva is able to translate it.Thank you for your observations in a different setting to that which most of us work in. Linda Trewern - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Lieve Huybrechts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:first breastfeed I made a paper about the first contact and the first feeding. I wrote it in dutch, but maybe one of the dutch speeking listmembers has the time to translate. At least there are some references at the end that may be usefull. If someone is interested, I can send it off list. When I worked in the hospital (I worked mostly at night when nobody interferes) and now as independent midwife I never touch the babys after birt. They are lying quiet on the mothers breast. We are packing our things together and drinking tea, filling in papers or just reflecting on the birth. Most of the time the baby starts drinking without anyone, even not the mother 'helping'. The students are amazed, they never saw the capacity of children to take care of there own surviving. Warm greetings Lieve On 10-02-2003 04:15, Ruth Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also is anyone aware of any good journal articles on the first breastfeed in birth suite. I tried to search the web but mostly seemed to get personal stories or documents I couldn't open. certainly there is research informing of optimal approaches to the first breastfeed after birth (including 'Evidence for the ten steps to successful breastfeeding' step 4 as mentioned by Alesa) to facilitate positive experience for mother and baby which may impact on maternal confidence and infant feeding ability for optimal attachment. Perhaps someone interested in research could investigate women's experience of the first breastfeed. Gabriel Palmer and Royal College of Midwives (RCM) both point out the importance of how midwives assist mothers with the first breastfeed. My research project last year for a Masters was concerning The first Breastfeed: Midwives knowledge and practice. Articles with results have been submitted to journals for publishing. No doubt the first breastfeeding experience immediately after birth is very much associated with management of birthing and touching the baby. Unfortunately it seems women and midwives do need education on matters of newborn feeding ability and how to observe and work with what the baby can do rather than 'teach' the mother what to do according to specific techniques. Ruth - Ruth Cantrill Griffith University NATHAN QLD 4111 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:first breastfeed
Dear Ruth and Alesa, Thank you for the help. I borrowed a copy of the Evidence for the 10 steps today. I am preparing a short inservice for colleagues.I especially liked the idea of working with what the baby can do rather than teaching the mum what to do. thanks again to you both. Regards Linda Trewern - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Ruth Cantrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:first breastfeed Also is anyone aware of any good journal articles on the first breastfeed in birth suite. I tried to search the web but mostly seemed to get personal stories or documents I couldn't open. certainly there is research informing of optimal approaches to the first breastfeed after birth (including 'Evidence for the ten steps to successful breastfeeding' step 4 as mentioned by Alesa) to facilitate positive experience for mother and baby which may impact on maternal confidence and infant feeding ability for optimal attachment. Perhaps someone interested in research could investigate women's experience of the first breastfeed. Gabriel Palmer and Royal College of Midwives (RCM) both point out the importance of how midwives assist mothers with the first breastfeed. My research project last year for a Masters was concerning The first Breastfeed: Midwives knowledge and practice. Articles with results have been submitted to journals for publishing. No doubt the first breastfeeding experience immediately after birth is very much associated with management of birthing and touching the baby. Unfortunately it seems women and midwives do need education on matters of newborn feeding ability and how to observe and work with what the baby can do rather than 'teach' the mother what to do according to specific techniques. Ruth - Ruth Cantrill Griffith University NATHAN QLD 4111 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] ante natal expressing
Dear Alesa, Some time ago you asked the list again about antenatal expression of colostrum.I spoke to our L.C. at work as we do suggest it as an option to diabetic women.She said there is nothing in the literature about it that she was aware of, but she had started suggesting it after many discussions with Sue Cox in Tasmania.Hope that is some help. Also is anyone aware of any good journal articles on the first breastfeed in birth suite.I tried to search the web but mostly seemed to get personal stories or documents I couldn't open. Regards Linda Trewern -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Yes I have, but the cost was a deterrant to its purchase- too many books and charts to buy not enough money :). A great doll though, I specially like the breasts with nipples on that doll. Alesa - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a Barbie. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Dear List Son's girlfriend works in a toy store. When I asked her about this doll (thought it could be a useful prop for a sibling antenatal educationclass)she informed me thatMattel 'Barbie' competitor 'Steffi Love'has had a similar product on Australian toy shelves for some time. So I bought one! Retailed for $16.99, this toy has a pregnant tummy with a babe "in utero" which can beremoved along with the pregnant abdo wall. From behind this doll does not have the classic hourglass shape of a "Barbie", and this doll has fuller breasts than a "Barbie" - both suggestive of a womans pregnant shape, but I dont know if this is just this model or the basic doll shape of this brand. I think it will be a wonderful aid when talking about pregnancy withchildren which is where I will be using it. Interesting that the Oz media hasnt picked up on this product yet is all a flutter over the Mattel one! Cheers Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech
Dear Jo What was recorded on her admission observations as they surely must have included abdo palpation and what was she told afterwards?I remember a multiparous woman who was having a caesar for a breech and was showered and shaved and in a theatre gown and requested palpation as the baby had been moving a lot. It was cephalic. She promptly got dressed and requested discharge. She was, after she got a dressing down about caesar being the best option for an "unstable" lie.She returned 2days later just in time to push out her cephalic baby inside the "hallowed walls". Also I had mentioned about finding out about ante natal expressing. Women who are insulin dependant gestational diabetics are offered the option to express from about 38 weeks on as their babies automatically go to the nursery for observation. They have to be quickthough as they are also booked for induction at 38 weeks.Our lactation consultation tells me she would only expect a few mls but few women take up the option. The babies mostly have formula or drips for low blood sugar. On another note, I wonder how, or ifother places manage to meet step 4 of the BFHI and " help mothers initiate breastfeeding within a half hour of birth". This is the set criteria but often mum or baby are not ready for whatever reason.I realise they have to be normal vaginal births. Anyone From a BFHI hospital care to comment Thanks Linda Trewern.-Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech Today a booboo was made :( A primip -- elective c/s for breech presentation. Came out cephalic. Last u/s was at 27 weeks. :( Now she has a scar on her uterus :( (ETC)... Babies are Born... Pizzas are Delivered.
Re: IMD
Dear tracey, Hi! It's always the 5th May whatever day of the week that falls on.In Townsville we have organised a midwives breakfast for that day,Sunday this year, however we will actually celebrate it at work on Friday 3rd so as to get maximum staff/client exposure.We are encouraging all m/w to buyand wear the Lucina rose tattoo or pin and those who have seen them so far really like them.What are other places doing? (will give me some ideas for next year) Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: PaulTracy To: ozmidwifery Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:13 PM Silly question here but what day exactly is international midwives day this year. We have several different dates noted on our ward and are a little confused. Tracy
Re: Finally
Dear Andrea, Thank you so much for sharing that wonderful story. If she had been in hospital she would have been labelled as slow progress for a multi and encouraged to have syntocinon.How lucky that she wasn't.I wish you many more such positive births in your practice. Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Finally Well this is for all the long time list readers who may appreciate the significance of it! On Thursday this week the phone call I had been waiting so long for finally came and my first client who was planning to birth at home rang to say she was in labour. She lives in a neighbouring town and as her previous labours had been short she asked me to come. By the time I arrived she was in good labour and things appeared to be progressing quickly. Despite good labour she then felt as though things were at a standstill and asked for a VE at 2pm. (8cm). Pleased but frustrated at the same time she plodded on. Three older children came home from school and after having snacks provided by grandma went off to basketball and netball practice. talk about birthing being a part of everyday life. don't these kids understand that. By 5pm she was getting tired (and still an anterior lip that wouldn't budge). Finally at 6pm she had an urge to push and after experimenting she found that only by standing and squatting could she move him at all. It was just so beautiful to watch as she encouraged that baby to navigate its way out. It took an hour of deep concentration before the head was on view and she gently birthed a head that felt like it kept coming for ever. Jarrad (4580gms) arrived at 1908 to be greeted by his mum and dad, then big sister and brothers and grandma( herself a midwife) and within minutes the rest of his grandparents, great grandparents etc all of whom had been next door at great grandmas house. (Dad ran in and told them to come quick and when they all arrived to find Mum sitting on the bathroom floor with baby in arms they were tickled pink until they realised that he was still attached by a strongly pulsating cord). I must admit that the grin on my face was probably as big as the parents. Life is full of great moments and firsts will always remain special to us. This goes down as one of them. Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
re Rosalie Shaw
Dear List, I am trying to get in touch with Rosalie Shaw. Are you still on the list Rosalie? Any help appreciated. Thanks Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
Re: consensus guidelines on antenatal care
Dear Joy, Thank you for the info on the consensus guidelines. It sounds like a document that could be of use to us here in North Qld as we attempt to introduce more midwifery involvrment in antenatal care.I looked at downloading it but it kept flickering a lot.Could you give a phone no. or address to buy one. Thanks Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery list (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: consensus guidelines on antenatal care Today saw the launch of the Victorian 'Three Centres consensus guidelines on antenatal care'; the three centres being Mercy, Women's and Southern Health (the big 3). The document that has been produced reviews evidence (Levels I-V) with discussion on various practices, such as number and timing of antenatal visits, models of a/n care, testing, screening, smoking cessation, and lots more. From a brief read I think it will be very useful in my practice. These guidelines are for sale at @$33, or can be downloaded from the DHS website www.dhs.vic.gov.au/ahs/quality/effect.htm The program also had a preview of a new website 'Having a baby in Victoria' which Della Forster has worked on. It looks very good, with information about what's available where. It's still under wraps, and as soon as it's up for public consumption, someone will tell the list I'm sure. I don't think homebirth gets a mention - hopefully that will change when the National Maternity Action Plan for Community based midwifery is implemented. I want to say a word to thank the overseas midwives who are contributing to the discussion on this list, and encourage you to continue. I think this is the positive side of globalisation - that we can all learn from each other - Canada, Washington, Denmark, and South Africa. Best wishes, Joy Johnston www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: nine months
Dear Pinky, Could you give a bit more info about the babys saliva stimulating antibody production to an impending illness? I have never heard of this before and would love to know more.Is it in your book as I haven't got it yet? Thanks Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: nine months Below is a copy of the letter I have just sent to nine months -it is tricky getting the info into their little feedback box and actually reading/ formatting what you write. Pinky I am dismayed to find a site that aims to provide parents with education, not only offers apologetic information about the advantages of breastfeeding, (you say, Breastfeeding is THOUGHT to protect...) but you also present breastfeeding as a LIFESTYLE choice, rather like making a simple choice between types of prams, for instance.Parents deserve evidence based information, not wishy washy biased views that imply such rubbish as bottle feeding will reduce sibling rivalry, for instance -how do you rationalise this? A breastfeeding mother has a spare hand to deal with another child, and surely the baby's health is her first priority.While you have some good information about the physiology of breastfeding, advising scheduling of feeds is not best practice and in fact has been associated with failure to thrive. Feedback from parents and professionals to my own book "Parenting By Heart" (Lothian 2001) shows that such pressure is not only detrimental to infant health but erodes parental confidence as parents strive to make their babies fit both predetemined schedules and their own unrealistic expectations. I am certainly amazed at your claim that your informaton is provided by experts -you dont even supply profiles or namesof these "experts". I have added quotes that dispute your information as follows: Most midwives (REALLY??) suggest that you avoid the snacking and catnapping. This will only make more work for yourself. (WHY?? -breast milk is readily available and humans are biologically a 'carrying', not a 'caching' species)Try to extend the time between feeds to at least three hours calculated from the time of the first feed to the time of the subsequent feed. Adjusting to this schedule may take two or three days. You may wish to record the times on paper until you reach your goal of six to eight feeds.(Babies dont share these GOALS - why are you advocating outcomes focussed management of human infants? -they are PEOPLE NOT OBJECTS) (BABIES NEED TO DOUBLE THIR BIRTHWEIGHT IN FIVE TO SIX MONTHS AND TRIPLE IT IN A YEARWhen you compare a babys needs to an adults (who is generally not trying to gain weight at least not to double or triple their current size!), it is easy to understand that expecting a baby to eat according to an imposed regime, is not only unrealistic, but downright abusive. It is also, therefore, easy to understand how such regimes, which restrict the duration and amount of feeds, contribute to failure to thrive. Consider: how often do you eat, drink, nibble, snack, or sip through an average day? As adults, we eat and drink according to our own body signals, not a predetermined schedule and so should babies. In fact, the average need of a baby is to feed EIGHT TO TEN times a day, and up to TWELVE TO FOURTEEN times a day during growth spurts! Another reason to feed according to baby's cues is that babies increase their need to feed if they are 'coming down with something' - this is because the transfer of saliva to breast increases the production of antibodies to the impending illness,as well as offering comfort). Night feeding If you keep your babys feeds regular in the daytime, it is likely that you will need to feed only once before 5am. By about eight weeks, a night time feed can be as quick as 12 -15 minutes from the time you get out of bed to when you return. Many babies sleep from 6pm to 2am. (AT EIGHT WEEKS THIS IS AB UNREALISTIC EXPECTATION AND MAY REDUCE SOME MOTHERS MILK SUPPLY)Waking a baby at 10pm seems to make no difference.(STUDIES SHOW THAT A FOCUSSED FEED AT 10-PM IN FACT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE (Pinillla t, and Birch LL. reported in Paediatrics,1993 ) Breastfed babies in this study and a copy done last year did sleep a five hour stretch (considered ALL night in infant sleep research) When a baby starts solids at four months, (THE RECOMMENDED STARTING TIME FOR SOLIDS (WHO) IS SIX MONTHS).it is likely the 2am feed will not be necessary. (UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ONLY SERVE TO MAKE MOTHERS FEEL INADEQUATE _WHO IS FEEDING TO
Re: pay rates for midwives?
Dear Janine, Congratulations on being accepted into the BMid and best wishes with your studies.In the Qld public health system a level 2, year 4 m/w earns $24.82 per hour. Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Steve Janine Clark To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: pay rates for midwives? Hi everyone, I am about to begin the BMid program at ACU in Melbourne. I was wondering if anyone could help me with something - what would be the rates of pay for current midwives, ranging from grad year up to Clinical midwife/nurse specialists??? As I am nota member of the ANF, I am unable to access this information. I realise that BMid pay rates may or may not be applicable, but was keen to get a general idea. Regards, Janine
re Albury/Wadonga
Hi to all Can anyone from the Albury/Wadonga area on the list give me any info about work opportunities down there? One of the m/w I work with is moving there with partner in the defence force and asked me if I could find out for her.She is keen to see/work in any mid models of care if there is anything like that available. Any contact names would be appreciated. Thank you Linda-Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
Re: Information please
Dear Andrea, Thank you posting that story. I have just got home from a pre natal class which I had hoped to get away from on time,but didn't. A young woman stayed back to talk to me.She has recently moved to this city, knows few people yet,partner in Timor and won't be home for baby's birth,embarressed to be at classes by herself and is concerned about becoming depressed .I stayed chatting for 25 minutes and after reading your post am so glad I did,as its true that we never truly know the impact of our words. Linda- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Ian Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Oz Midwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED]; KREMLERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kim Andrew Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Majda Ash Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Merryn Auldist [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alma A. Arce [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Danny Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mike Delbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; AJ Kirton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fran Sheean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Eeles [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lesley Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lyn Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Information please I don't usually send things like this to the list but this bought a tear to my eyes so I decided to send it on Andrea Q Information Please??? When I was quite young, my father had one of the first telephones in our neighborhood. I remember well, the polished old case fastened to the wall and the shiny receiver on the side of the box. I was too little to reach the telephone, but used to listen with fascination when my mother would talk to it. Then I discovered that somewhere inside the wonderful device lived an amazing person and her name was Information Please and there was nothing she did not know. Information Please could supply anybody's number and the correct time. My first personal experience with this genie-in-a-bottle came one day while my mother was visiting a neighbor. Amusing myself at the tool bench in the basement. I whacked my finger with hammer. The pain was terrible but, there didn't seem to be any reason in crying because there was no one home to give me sympathy. I walked around the house sucking my throbbing finger, finally arriving at the stairway, The telephone! Quickly, I ran for the footstool in the parlor and held it to my ear. Information Please I said into the mouthpiece just above my head. A click or two and a small clear voice spoke into my ear. Information. I hurt my finger! I wailed into the phone. The tears came readily enough now that I had an audience. Isn't your mother home? came the question. Nobody's home but me, I blubbered. Are you bleeding? the voice asked. No, I replied. I hit my finger with a hammer and it hurts. Can you open your icebox? she asked. I said I could. Then chip off a piece of ice and hold it to your finger, said the voice. After that, I called Information Please for everything. I asked her for help with my geography and she told me where Philadelphia was. She helped me with my math. She told me that my pet chipmunk, which I had caught in the park just the day before, would eat fruit and nuts. Then there was the time Petey, our pet canary died. I called Information Please and told her the sad story. She listened, then said the usual thing grown ups say to soothe a child. But, I was inconsolable. I asked her, Why is it that birds should sing so beautifully and bring joy to all families, only to end up as a heap of feathers on the bottom of a cage? She must have sensed my deep concern, for she said quietly, Paul, you must remember that there are other worlds to sing in. Somehow, I felt better. Another day I was on the telephone. Information Please. Information, said the now familiar voice. How do you spell fix?' I asked. All this took place in a small town in the Pacific Northwest. When I was nine years old, we moved across the country to Boston. I missed my friend very much. Information Please belonged in that old wooden box back home and somehow I never thought of trying the tall, new shiny phone that sat on the table in the hall. As I grew into my teens, the memories of those childhood conversations never really left me. Often, in moments of doubt and perplexity I would recall the serene sense of security I had then. I appreciated now how patient, understanding and kind she was to have spent her time on a little boy. A few years later, on my way west to college, my plane put down in Seattle. I had about half-an-hour or so between planes. I spent 15 minutes or so on the phone with my sister, who lived there now. Then, without thinking about what I was doing, I dialed my hometown operator and said, Information Please. Miraculously, I heard the small clear voice I knew so well. Information. I hadn't planned this, but I
Re: Re tears
Dear David, I am not familiar with the post anal pressure you mention in your mail.What do you do and how will it hasten birth when there is a low FHR? Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: David Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joy Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re tears Joy, you said We have good statistical data telling us that the number of perineal tears and the severity of the tears is consistently less in women who give birth at home (or in the car or for that matter) than for women in hospital. Why is that? Is it possible that a woman who is 'unobserved' (read bright lights and strangers looking intently at the business end - M Odent talks a lot about this) is more able to let go of her baby, and her muscles and skin go into a softer, more pliable state to let the baby make its way out of the birth passage? That's my theory. I think its simpler than that, just don't cut episiotomies, particularly routinely for operative vaginal birth. The epis rate at our regional hospital was 7.2% in 99, 6% last year and will be lower this year. Our intact rate was 55% in 99, 60% in 2000. This may rise simply by a gradual change to not suturing first degree tears. We probably have less primips (36%) than the rest of the state (42%) which would account for some of this high intact rate. Our third degree tear rate (ANY external anal sphincter involvement) is higher than state average, but I think this is ascertainment bias. Studies (see below) suggest there is much underreporting of sphincter tears and I am paranoid about the sphincter being correctly identified and so repaired. (I think a PR must be done to properly assess any tear) We are planning a retrospective, then prospective audit of our third degree tears and follow-up to ascertain a rate of anal incontinence in a low epis environment. In this unselected population, the caesar rate is around 18% (falling) and operative vaginal birth rate about 12% (pretty stable). We have a fairly traditional model of GP or obstetrician-led public care here (though is more like private care as its in the country). We do have a large midwifery input antenatally and intrapartum though. Listing the factors in no particular order that I believe help us with the low perineal damage rate are 1. Docs use vacuum over forceps 2. No routine epis for operative vag birth 3. Antenatal perineal massage encouraged 4. Low ( but climbing) epidural rate (10-15%) 5. Midwives catch most of the babies (but own doctor present) 6. No time limit in second stage (but listen after every contraction) 7. I always consider ppposition change than vacuum or post-anal pressure rather than epis if head very low and worrying FH 8. I could add - discourage the stranded beetle position. I'm sure the upright position encourages spont birth but I suspect it may encourage the head to sometimes blast out with a larger tear. Have a culture of (mostly) directed pushing which is probably not helpful. Also, I agree too much peri watching is unlikely to be helpful, and must certainly be a bit demeaning. We have almost no waterbirth - again probably more a cultural thing than any specific directive against it. In regard to number 2, using 99 Victorian figures, if selective epis (lets say 10%) was used for operative vaginal birth, the episiotomy rate (+/- tear) in Vic would drop from 23.3% to 11.9%. The rcog website has great evidence-based guideline on perineal trauma and repair http://www.rcog.org.uk/guidelines/guideline29.html http://www.rcog.org.uk/guidelines/perineal.html David -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE MERRY CHRISTMAS
Merry Christmas to all on the list and thank you for the past year of wisdom shared.May 2002 be a great year for all. Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
re expressing
Dear listers, This discussion about formula without consent prompts me to ask if anyone is familiar with expressing and storing colostrum before birth.I recently had a woman in an ante-natal class tell me she was 36weeks and an insulin dependant gestational diabetic.All babies of these mums go to special care for a minimum of 4hrs and are subjected to a fairly recent and strict protocol of care.This mum had a tour of the nursery after a recent a/n visit and it was suggested to her to start expressing and freezing colostrum to avoid the potential of either formula or a glucose drip for her baby.My initial feeling was this could cause a prem labor and then I realized if she had been tandem feeding( she wasn't) the milk/colostrum was still being removed anyway.I spoke to our lactaction consultant about it and she could see no problem unless there was a history of prem labor which there wasn't.Is any one else suggesting this to pregnant mums? Linda-Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
Re: Bachelor of Midwifery - Victoria ACU early round offers
CONGRATULATIONS Tina.I have always been inspired or encouraged by your mail and I'm thrilled for you.I just hope you don't get too busy to stay on the list as I would miss your thoughtful contributions Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Bachelor of Midwifery - Victoria ACU early round offers Hi all fellow ozmiders !! just letting you know that today is an 'herstoric' day in Midwifery with further developments on the Bachelor of Midwifery in Victoria. Australian Catholic University (ACU) announced (via VTAC) its early round offers for the proposed B Mid program for 2002. A further three offer rounds are to follow with a percentage of non-year 12 applicants notified today of offers for the proposed ACU course. I would like to share that I was successful in obtaining an early round offer from ACU and am delighted (an understatement). All we need now is accreditation from the NBV and we are on our way. Whoo hoo !!! Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife. Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective [EMAIL PROTECTED] As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: birthing stools
Dear Julie-Anne, You could try contacting a midwife called Monika at [EMAIL PROTECTED] She was selling a birthing stool she had designed at the recent ACMI conference in Brisbane. Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Julie-Anne Olaisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:40 AM Subject: birthing stools Dear All Does anyone have any recent articles/ research references on the use of birth stools in labour as a colleague of mine needs articles for the development of a birthing stool policy. thanks Julie-Anne http://netwinsite.com http://www.terrigal.net.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: WA Homebirth Guidelines
Dear Denise, Hi! Would you mind posting the homebirth guidelines again as when I went to download I could only get the first 7 pages and the rest was occasional lines( which whetted my desire to read the rest asap).If it won't come through I'll contact the WA health dept. for a written copy. ?ph no. Thanks Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Vicki Chan ; NSW Midwives Association Inc ; Glenn, Karen ; Gallagher, Cathie ; Carol Thorogood ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Elizabeth Duffy ; CMWA Cc: Eddy, Helen ; Rosemary Manus ; Mary Murphy ; Lynda Tully ; Lois Wattis ; Laraine Hood Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: WA Homebirth Guidelines Dear All The new WA Homebirth Guidelines are now available online. Congratulations and thank you to the Health Department of WA. The text is a download from; http://www.nursing.health.wa.gov.au/projects/homebirth.cfm Yours appreciatively Denise Hynd
Re: suturing
Trish there is an article entitled" To stitch or not to stitch? A long term follow up study of women with unsutured perineal tears." found in The Practising Midwife April 1999 vol 2 no. 4 Hope it's of some help. Linda -Click here for Free Video!!http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: monica hook To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: suturing Hi, I can't remember the name of the paper (or the author) but it was from Bristol Hospital, I think late 80s. Hope this helps. Monica - Original Message - From: patricia long To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 8:56 PM Subject: suturing hi I am looking for references and opinions regarding "to suture or not to suture" I remember hearing about a UK paper that compared suturing 2 degree tears with not suturing.thanks for any input. trish long
Re: Phone advice
Dear Carole, I haven't heard about not being able to give phone advice and we do , particularly in birth suite as you say. We either write it directly into the womans notes if we have them in the 36+ weeks box or into a outpatient/phone calls book. In the postnatal ward we also offer the mums (particularly short stay who go onto visiting midwifery programme) the ward number in case they need to talk to someone overnight, before next m/w visit. I'd be very interested to know if this is illegal. Linda - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - Original Message - From: Carole Gilmour [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Phone advice Does anyone on the list know about the legalities of giving advice over the phone? Apparently changes were made last year (who by I don't know nurses board I presume) whereby nurses are no longer allowed to give advice over the phone even if recording it in a book. All phone advice books have been removed from emergency depts etc. As midwives we have several areas where we frequently give phone advice and keep a book of calls and advice given. the most obvious one being in the birthing unit for women who think they may be in labour. Questions- Has anyone else heard about this ruling? Has anyone in midwifery units been affected by this ruling? Are all you midwives who give phone advice still keeping records? thanks Carole -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.