Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Thanks!!
Thanks for the suggestions, all very. helpful. I have now forwarded them to the woman and hopefully she will get some great pointers.She is starting with contacting the Australian commission, so seems intent!! She is also now considering "sponsoring" an experienced waterbirthing Australian midwife to help her get her dream birth. Any more suggestions?? Lisaxx - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmersSent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
Why not have some midwives go to Malaysia for a homebirth for her? She could have her local hospital for backup and not have to remove herself from her family and friends. It may even be more affordable, anyone up for a months holiday in Malaysia? Di - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmersSent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur
Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
Thanks Di, She has now decided this is the best option. So...how can she go about finding a midwife that can help her??? Its exactly the sort of thing I'd love to do, if I was a midwife! Would it be ok to post her email address in case any was interested? And thanks Sharon, I didnt get yourpost the first time, so was good to read and I will pass it on to her. Lisaxx - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Why not have some midwives go to Malaysia for a homebirth for her? She could have her local hospital for backup and not have to remove herself from her family and friends. It may even be more affordable, anyone up for a months holiday in Malaysia? Di - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmersSent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
Wish I could but too long away from the family. Someone out there a little more nomadic? Di - Original Message - From: lisa chalmers To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Thanks Di, She has now decided this is the best option. So...how can she go about finding a midwife that can help her??? Its exactly the sort of thing I'd love to do, if I was a midwife! Would it be ok to post her email address in case any was interested? And thanks Sharon, I didnt get yourpost the first time, so was good to read and I will pass it on to her. Lisaxx - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Why not have some midwives go to Malaysia for a homebirth for her? She could have her local hospital for backup and not have to remove herself from her family and friends. It may even be more affordable, anyone up for a months holiday in Malaysia? Di - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmersSent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
Know a midwife here in Adelaide who has done this in the past, email me off list and Ill pass on her details to you Tania x From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Monday, 2 October 2006 10:11 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Thanks Di, She has now decided this is the best option. So...how can she go about finding a midwife that can help her??? Its exactly the sort of thing I'd love to do, if I was a midwife! Would it be ok to post her email address in case any was interested? And thanks Sharon, I didnt get yourpost the first time, so was good to read and I will pass it on to her. Lisaxx - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Why not have some midwives go to Malaysia for a homebirth for her? She could have her local hospital for backup and not have to remove herself from her family and friends. It may even be more affordable, anyone up for a months holiday in Malaysia? Di - Original Message - From: sharon To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there. I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth. Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation. Regards, Jashpreet Kaur No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: 1/10/2006
[ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur
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Lisa, There are many places in Australia that do waterbirths as I am sure there are in NZ. They would have to talk to the Australian immigration people about a visa long enough to do what they want. They will obviously have to foot the bill for all expenses as medicare is not available to them. It can get very expensive, even in a public hospital. If she is low risk it might be better to just book at a hospital for backup and birth with an independant midwife at their temporary home. I have not been put in this position so this is only my guesswork. Cheers Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/06 11:02am Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there.I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth.Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation.Regards,Jashpreet Kaur * This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is strictly prohibited. The information contained in this email, including any attachment sent with it, may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone collect on Australia +61 1800 198 175 or by return email. You should also delete this email, and any copies, from your computer system network and destroy any hard copies produced. If not an intended recipient of this email, you must not copy, distribute or take any action(s) that relies on it; any form of disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this email is also prohibited. Although Queensland Health takes all reasonable steps to ensure this email does not contain malicious software, Queensland Health does not accept responsibility for the consequences if any person's computer inadvertently suffers any disruption to services, loss of information, harm or is infected with a virus, other malicious computer programme or code that may occur as a consequence of receiving this email. Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the views of the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
lisa chalmers wrote: *Hello to all , * *I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible??* *Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info.* ** *Many Thanks * *Lisa xxx* Hello there. I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth. Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation. Regards, Jashpreet Kaur try the NZ college of midwives website - http://www.midwife.org.nz/index.cfm/women I know there are issues with accessing the govt funded maternity care if you are not a citizen, so they'll prolly have to pay for it. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there. I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth. Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation. Regards, Jashpreet Kaur
RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas??
I know that the mid group practice at wch is offering water birth and there are also some independent prac midwifes who offer water birth in south Australia in the home. The woman would have to pay for all services naturally as she is not Australian and therefore covered by medicare what if she approached the practiconer independently and asked them. Cheers sharon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 2:06 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? I have cared for a number of overseas visitors who have come to Perth to have their baby at home in the water. As she will have to pay for all her hospital care, she would have to also foot the bill for the hospital service. We do not have any hospitals that offer waterbirth. If it is possible, a hospital that offers waterbirth would cut out the double payment she would have to make if she needs transfer for additional obstetric care. If she is married to a Malaysian man, this is less likely than if married to a Caucasian. Cheers, M From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 9:02 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas?? Hello to all , I received this email this morning and have no idea if what this woman wants is at all possible?? Has anyone got any experience of anything similar. i thinkits grest that she is actively persuing a birth experience that she wants and would love to give her some info. Many Thanks Lisa xxx Hello there. I would like to find out,is there such waterbirth laws in New Zealand also or only in SA? Is there any midwives services in New Zealand also? I'm actually a Malaysian,but i really want to have my child in Australia or New Zealand and not in Malaysia because my husband and i are very interested and really want to have an aqua baby due to all the benefits that waterbirth has and this service is not available here in Malaysia. I would really like to know how can i deliver our baby over there and how is the government's policy to go there and have a baby? Is it possible because we really want a waterbirth. Please do reply soon. Thank you very much for your cooperation. Regards, Jashpreet Kaur
Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
Hi Joanne, This is not an idea for your question. I was just wondering if you were the same person I worked a night shift with once at a private hospital in Brisbane. I think I worked with you Jill another agency midwife. I was very pregnant with my fourth baby it would have been my last shift. If you are the person I am thinking of I just wanted to let you know that you have been in my thoughts. The Joanne I met said some inspirational things to me before I left work about the birth of my baby (can't remember what they were exactly but they made my day at the time). If it was you Thankyou. Tina H. Brisbane. - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet),so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas butI'm sure there areplenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher)
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Interesting point I would love to know the answer to that one also. Dierdre B. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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A suggestion for the coffeee table is similar images that Sheila Kitzinger has on her birth coat (the yellow one), the paisley and rose prints, it would need explaining to people, but thats part of it. When she visited this year she wore it and explained the symbolic meanings, its just beautiful. You would probably find it on her website. Good luck, I'm still waiting for a good design to go on my belly cast, Megan. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M FisherSent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 11:21To: OzmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet),so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas butI'm sure there areplenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher)
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Hi again Juliana - the client I wrote about has chosen not to have ANY ultrasounds, so LMP dates only. Confounding factor is that they don't recall having sex in the month between her last 2 periods, so took the earlier date as the one to go by for conception (prior). Your information confirms what I already thought, but it's great to have it really clearly researched and evidence-based. I'll keep you informed as to her progress! Thank you for offering to send your research paper. My postal (office) address is 39 McLarty Road, Pinjarra WA 6208, and my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Cheers, Lois - Original Message - From: Juliana Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Lois, Is this woman going by ultrasound dates or menstrual dates? Why are her dates doubtful? There are risks to continuing pregnancy beyond term. The risk of perinatal death increases from 0.7 ongoing pregnancies at 37 weeks gestation to 2.4 ongoing pregnancies at 40 weeks, to 2.8 at 41 weeks, to 4.8 at 42 weeks to 5.8 ongoing pregnancies at 43 weeks gestation (Hilder et al 1998). The risk of perinatal death increases with the onset of labour (Enkin 2000). What remains controversial is whether induction of labour reduces the rate of perinatal mortality in women with post dates pregnancy. From the meta analysis of 11 RCT's conducted between 1969 and 1992 comparing induction of labour from 41 plus weeks to a conservative approach suggests a reduction in perinatal mortality with induction of labour (Caritis 1995, Kierse 1993). However, many reviews have been published recently questioning the validity of the results found from these studies (Menticoglou 2002, Caritis 1995 and Kierse 1993). After extensive reading of these articles and their arguments, the summary that I came up with was that there appears to be no justification for a routine policy on induction of labour beyond 42 completed weeks gestation, as research does not conclusively show that induction of labour decreases the rate of perinatal morbidity and mortality compared with a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy. From my experience, most women choose induction of labour over a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy. Research hasn't been done on women's views associated with continuing with pregnancy beyond term (42 weeks), however the reason why I chose this topic for my masters project was that I came accross some women who did not want to be induced at 42 weeks. Some women had experienced induction at 42 weeks before and gave birth to healthy babies without any evidence that their babies were post dates. Did these women have naturally longer pregnancy gestations? Would a conservative approach put them at risk? These are the sort of questions I set out to try and answer. How can we identify the 4.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies at 42 weeks and the 5.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies that are going to end up resulting in perinatal death beyond 43 weeks gestation? CTG is of no benefit. One possible way of detecting post dates pregnancies which are becoming high risk is the use of doppler ultrasound. However, there have been no studies to date performed looking at the use of doppler ultrasound for women with post dates pregnancies specifically, just high risk pregnancy such as hypertension. The results from these high risk studies are pleasing in detecting pregnancies at risk, however the pathophysiology of post dates pregnancy (placental insufficiency) may be different to that of women with hypertension. I would be happy to e mail you my guidelines off list. I am hoping to publish my findings in ACMI journal soon. I don't want to publish the policy alone as the arguments to both approaches to post dates pregnancy need to be included with the publication. I know my response has been long winded, but hopefully it has been helpful for this woman. Regards, Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lois Wattis Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Julianne, I would like to read your paper too. I have a client more that 3 weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does not want to be induced. Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term now. Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding. Could you please provide some info based on your 'policy'? Thanks, Lois - Original Message - From: sally westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice. Love Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL
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Juliana, Yours Masters thesis sounds fascinating. Are we able to obtain a copy? Thanks, Leanne. From: Juliana Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:27:50 +1000 Dear Jo, Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women with post dates pregnancy. I looked at Induction of labour as one approach and conservative care as the other. I didn't do any research as such, it was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective. ie a conservative approach vs induction of labour. I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an alternative approach to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches, perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative practices to induce or augment labour. Good luck with your studies. Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list
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Lois, I seem to remember a photo copied picture we all got at uni in my Midwifery course that showed the foetal skull at 36 weeks, 40 weeks and 43 weeks, with the skull bones being closer and closer together as gestation went on. In the 43 week foetus there wasn't much room for the bones to overlap during birth, but in the 40 week foetus there was. Do you think there is a way of seeing the skull bones (ultrasound?) and using that at term to decide if the baby is really 'post-term' or not? Just a meandering thought Jo - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Julianne, I would like to read your paper too. I have a client more that 3 weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does not want to be induced. Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term now. Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding. Could you please provide some info based on your 'policy'? Thanks, Lois -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear Robin, I had a look at this website and I'd like to know if it is possible to order these directly from Colin Heaney in Byron Bay, rather than via the website which is USA based, and US$ ph etc. Any ideas? Regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi Jo - how about picking some photo's or pictures you like, scanning them, printing them out, and using them for your template for your mosaic. Or you could use the pictures themselves, cut up, mosaic style?? Love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list
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Good idea Lois!! Love Jo - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo - how about picking some photo's or pictures you like, scanning them, printing them out, and using them for your template for your mosaic. Or you could use the pictures themselves, cut up, mosaic style?? Love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do
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Dear Jo, Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women with post dates pregnancy. I looked at Induction of labour as one approach and conservative care as the other. I didn't do any research as such, it was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective. ie a conservative approach vs induction of labour. I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an alternative approach to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches, perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative practices to induce or augment labour. Good luck with your studies. Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering
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Here you go Lois, http://www.colinheaney.com/ but half the pleasure is picking out the hundreds of different colours he uses in the glass. It really is the most wonderful studio to visit, (and I'm lucky enough to be going up there again in a few weeks time) cheers, Robin. - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear Robin, I had a look at this website and I'd like to know if it is possible to order these directly from Colin Heaney in Byron Bay, rather than via the website which is USA based, and US$ ph etc. Any ideas? Regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE
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It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice. Love Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana Brennan Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear Jo, Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women with post dates pregnancy. I looked at Induction of labour as one approach and conservative care as the other. I didn't do any research as such, it was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective. ie a conservative approach vs induction of labour. I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an alternative approach to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches, perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative practices to induce or augment labour. Good luck with your studies. Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful
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Julianne, I would like to read your paper too. I have a client more that 3 weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does not want to be induced. Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term now. Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding. Could you please provide some info based on your 'policy'? Thanks, Lois - Original Message - From: sally westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice. Love Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana Brennan Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear Jo, Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women with post dates pregnancy. I looked at Induction of labour as one approach and conservative care as the other. I didn't do any research as such, it was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective. ie a conservative approach vs induction of labour. I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an alternative approach to post dates pregnancy, cost of both approaches, perinatal mortality and morbidity associated with either approach, fetal surveillance methods used for conservative approaches and their effectiveness, accurate pregnancy dating, and the use of alternative practices to induce or augment labour. Good luck with your studies. Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mrs Joanne M Fisher Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Thankyou all of you that have given me suggestions for my research topic and my table. If there are any more ideas please send them to me. I'm not one to make quick decisions! An idea for research I had was to look at why there are so many inductions these days, does anyone know if there's been anything done on that? The ideas of Vit. K and Hep. B are also very good suggestions. The suggestions for my table have been fabulous although too bad I'm no good at drawing them which I'll need to do before I do the mosaic! Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo
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Thanks Robin, I've emailed them directly for more info. Regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Here you go Lois, http://www.colinheaney.com/ but half the pleasure is picking out the hundreds of different colours he uses in the glass. It really is the most wonderful studio to visit, (and I'm lucky enough to be going up there again in a few weeks time) cheers, Robin. - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear Robin, I had a look at this website and I'd like to know if it is possible to order these directly from Colin Heaney in Byron Bay, rather than via the website which is USA based, and US$ ph etc. Any ideas? Regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list
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Juliana, It would be good if you could share this information with us all. so often valuable work is done in academia and we are unable to access it because we don't know it has been going on. I agree post dates gives us all grief. justifying non induction to the drs is very difficult for women.cheers, MM Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Lois, Is this woman going by ultrasound dates or menstrual dates? Why are her dates doubtful? There are risks to continuing pregnancy beyond term. The risk of perinatal death increases from 0.7 ongoing pregnancies at 37 weeks gestation to 2.4 ongoing pregnancies at 40 weeks, to 2.8 at 41 weeks, to 4.8 at 42 weeks to 5.8 ongoing pregnancies at 43 weeks gestation (Hilder et al 1998). The risk of perinatal death increases with the onset of labour (Enkin 2000). What remains controversial is whether induction of labour reduces the rate of perinatal mortality in women with post dates pregnancy. From the meta analysis of 11 RCT's conducted between 1969 and 1992 comparing induction of labour from 41 plus weeks to a conservative approach suggests a reduction in perinatal mortality with induction of labour (Caritis 1995, Kierse 1993). However, many reviews have been published recently questioning the validity of the results found from these studies (Menticoglou 2002, Caritis 1995 and Kierse 1993). After extensive reading of these articles and their arguments, the summary that I came up with was that there appears to be no justification for a routine policy on induction of labour beyond 42 completed weeks gestation, as research does not conclusively show that induction of labour decreases the rate of perinatal morbidity and mortality compared with a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy. From my experience, most women choose induction of labour over a conservative approach to post dates pregnancy. Research hasn't been done on women's views associated with continuing with pregnancy beyond term (42 weeks), however the reason why I chose this topic for my masters project was that I came accross some women who did not want to be induced at 42 weeks. Some women had experienced induction at 42 weeks before and gave birth to healthy babies without any evidence that their babies were post dates. Did these women have naturally longer pregnancy gestations? Would a conservative approach put them at risk? These are the sort of questions I set out to try and answer. How can we identify the 4.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies at 42 weeks and the 5.8 per 1000 ongoing pregnancies that are going to end up resulting in perinatal death beyond 43 weeks gestation? CTG is of no benefit. One possible way of detecting post dates pregnancies which are becoming high risk is the use of doppler ultrasound. However, there have been no studies to date performed looking at the use of doppler ultrasound for women with post dates pregnancies specifically, just high risk pregnancy such as hypertension. The results from these high risk studies are pleasing in detecting pregnancies at risk, however the pathophysiology of post dates pregnancy (placental insufficiency) may be different to that of women with hypertension. I would be happy to e mail you my guidelines off list. I am hoping to publish my findings in ACMI journal soon. I don't want to publish the policy alone as the arguments to both approaches to post dates pregnancy need to be included with the publication. I know my response has been long winded, but hopefully it has been helpful for this woman. Regards, Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lois Wattis Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Julianne, I would like to read your paper too. I have a client more that 3 weeks post dates at present, and agonising about what to do because she does not want to be induced. Her dates are doubtful, and I think she's just term now. Nevertheless, the pressure is on by the very supportive ob., and scarey stories about dangers of post maturity are abounding. Could you please provide some info based on your 'policy'? Thanks, Lois - Original Message - From: sally westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? It would be great to see this policy you wrote. It is such hard choice. Love Sally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juliana Brennan Sent: Sunday, 3 August 2003 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear Jo, Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. When I did my Masters last year I looked into the care of women with post dates pregnancy. I looked at Induction of labour as one approach and conservative care as the other. I didn't do any research as such, it was more a critical literature review and I then wrote a policy for the care of women with post dates pregnancy from a woman's choice perspective. ie a conservative approach vs induction of labour. I mainly concentrated on the risks and benefits of induction of labour vs an alternative approach to post dates
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Mary, Thats fine. How should I get the paper to you? I'm planning to get it published with ACMI ASAP. The reason for my delay in getting the information published is that I'm a busy Mum. Also, I'm told by the university that I need to change each version slightly for each publication. This is time consuming, yet I agree valuable information needs to be shared. Juliana -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 4 August 2003 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Juliana, It would be good if you could share this information with us all. so often valuable work is done in academia and we are unable to access it because we don't know it has been going on. I agree post dates gives us all grief. justifying non induction to the drs is very difficult for women.cheers, MM Post dates pregnancy is one of the most common reasons cited for inducing labour. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower eliminationof unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo -a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the housesand linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking aboutart work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet),so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas butI'm sure there areplenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher)
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jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Joanne how about the effect of giving Hep B vaccinations to newborns. Does it interfere with the establishment of successful breastfeeding, what other implications does it have and is it really necessary. Not sure how you work that into a research topic, but I am sure someone out there could be of help. Regards Sheena Johnson
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Jo, what about using the goddess of fertility on your table? Colin Heaney in Byron Bay does a beautiful glass sculpture of her. I have two of these little scuptures because they're so beautiful to hold and feel. http://www.yoni.com/cheaney/goddesses1.shtml. Also, I too think we should be digging at the issue of routine Vitamin K. Any research to stir the pot would be useful, as it's so entrenched in our hospitals. Or, if you really want to stir people up, why not research the current favourite policy of suggesting that ALL babies be Hep B immunised, and the link into disturbance of estblishing breast feeding? cheers, Robin - Original Message - From: Neretlis, Bethany [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? jo, i can't think of any research ideas at the moment. however, and idea for artwork i have been meaning to do myself but as a sculpture is the classic breastfeeding mother looking down on her babe, bubs hand on mothers breast. love Bethany -Original Message- From: Lois Wattis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Hi Jo! (HUG!!) Great to hear from you. Idea's for a Masters.. hmmm - how about something about vitamin K administration (especially intramuscular injection at birth), and it's (suspected) link to increased rates of jaundice in newborns. Do babies given oral vit K have less incidence of jaundice requiring phototherapy? Do babies who are not given vitamin K at all have the same or less incidence of jaundice? It seems to me a high number of babies born in hospitals seem to develop jaundice which requires phototherapy. Could the common denominator be the IM Vit. K?? causing increased viscosity of the circulating blood, so therefore increased deposition / slower elimination of unconjugated bilirubin? I wonder?. Idea's for a mosaic? What about something similarly constructed to the CMP logo - a picture of a woman and baby in the centre, with the houses and linked figures holding hands around the edge? You've got me thinking about art work now! Take care my friend, love Lois - Original Message - From: Mrs Joanne M Fisher To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet), so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas but I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Snap. :-) I should have read this before I sent the previous post! Robin - Original Message - From: Sheena Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac? Joanne how about the effect of giving Hep B vaccinations to newborns. Does it interfere with the establishment of successful breastfeeding, what other implications does it have and is it really necessary. Not sure how you work that into a research topic, but I am sure someone out there could be of help. Regards Sheena Johnson
[ozmidwifery] Any ideas for research and mosiac?
Dear List, I've just returned to Brisbane and have re-joined the list again after spending time in Perth doing some observations for my studies with the fabulous midwives of the CMP - (Hi all you lovely ladies over there). This is a wonderful list to be on and so educatonal. I've been asked by my tutor to talk to the Grad Dip Mid students at ACU in Oct, so I'll be enthusiastically spreading the word of continuous midwifery care. She (my tutor) is also encouraging me to do my Masters, (not sure if I will yet),so I was wondering if anyone out there had suggestions for me for subjects that I could do a small research on. I've never done anything like this before and know nothing about research, (I'm a hospital midwife and have only recently embarked on university studies). I already have some vague ideas butI'm sure there areplenty of other ideas that I haven't thought of. I also want to mosiac my coffee table and would love to do something that symbolized birth/midwives etc, but being a hopeless artist I haven't been able to think of a simple design to do. Can anyone help??? Cheers, Joanne (Fisher)
