RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Emily]

Hi Vedrana  OFP is optimal fetal positioning.. (i hope!)  emilyVedrana Valèiæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Sorry  to bother you again, but what do OFP and HTH mean? (English is not my  mother language, and I am not of a medical profession)Vedrana -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:25 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babiesYes, that's it. I've also known a number of freebirthing mamas whose babieswere transverse at the start of labour and between cx and OFP the babiesmoved down beautifully and were safely born at home.I'm always uncomfortable with surgeons recommending surgery. Often OFP helpstr!
 ansverse
 babies move quite perfectly.HTH. Bicycle shorts sound weird but they seem to work!J- Original Message - From: "Vedrana Valèiæ" To: Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:21 AMSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] High babiesI have a friend whose baby is transverse (she's 32 weeks now) and as I wassearching the mail archives for some advice, I came up to this message. Whatdo you do with bicycle shorts? Just wear them and the baby turns?Vedrana-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:31 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babiesBicycle shorts! Cheap, simple and hugely effective!J- Original Message -From: "Susan Cudlipp" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:17 AMSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies> Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and> there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?> Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and hasany> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?> sue> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do> nothing"> Edmund Burke> - Original Message -----> From: "Denise Hynd" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies>>> > Dear Megan> > If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising> > ignorance or i!
 s that
 arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!> >> > Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn> > around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!> >> > And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby ofelective> > C/s on an arbitary date!!> > Denise Hynd> >> > "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, forthe> > sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by> > anyone, our bodies will be handled."> >> > - Linda Hes> >> > - Original Message -> > From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies> >> >> >> Dear Sally, I am !
 an
 independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please> >> contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is> >> in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transversebaby> >> and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB)because> >> the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of> >> uterine rupture!!> >> Thanks Megan> >>> >>> >>> >> --> >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.> >> Visit  to subscribe or unsubscribe.> >>> >>> >> --> >> No virus found in this incoming message.> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.> >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date:22/07/2005> >>> >>> >> > --!
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RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Vedrana Valčić]

Sorry to bother you again, but what do OFP and HTH mean? (English is not my 
mother language, and I am not of a medical profession)

Vedrana 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:25 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

Yes, that's it. I've also known a number of freebirthing mamas whose babies
were transverse at the start of labour and between cx and OFP the babies
moved down beautifully and were safely born at home.

I'm always uncomfortable with surgeons recommending surgery. Often OFP helps
transverse babies move quite perfectly.

HTH. Bicycle shorts sound weird but they seem to work!
J
- Original Message - 
From: "Vedrana Valčić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies


I have a friend whose baby is transverse (she's 32 weeks now) and as I was
searching the mail archives for some advice, I came up to this message. What
do you do with bicycle shorts? Just wear them and the baby turns?

Vedrana

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:31 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

Bicycle shorts! Cheap, simple and hugely effective!
J
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


> Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and
> there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?
> Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and has
any
> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?
> sue
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing"
> Edmund Burke
> - Original Message -
> From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
>
>
> > Dear Megan
> > If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising
> > ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!
> >
> > Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn
> > around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!
> >
> > And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of
elective
> > C/s on an arbitary date!!
> > Denise Hynd
> >
> > "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the
> > sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
> > anyone, our bodies will be handled."
> >
> > - Linda Hes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
> >
> >
> >> Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please
> >> contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is
> >> in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse
baby
> >> and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB)
because
> >> the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of
> >> uterine rupture!!
> >> Thanks Megan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Janet Fraser]

Yes, that's it. I've also known a number of freebirthing mamas whose babies
were transverse at the start of labour and between cx and OFP the babies
moved down beautifully and were safely born at home.

I'm always uncomfortable with surgeons recommending surgery. Often OFP helps
transverse babies move quite perfectly.

HTH. Bicycle shorts sound weird but they seem to work!
J
- Original Message - 
From: "Vedrana Valčić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies


I have a friend whose baby is transverse (she's 32 weeks now) and as I was
searching the mail archives for some advice, I came up to this message. What
do you do with bicycle shorts? Just wear them and the baby turns?

Vedrana

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:31 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

Bicycle shorts! Cheap, simple and hugely effective!
J
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


> Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and
> there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?
> Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and has
any
> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?
> sue
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing"
> Edmund Burke
> - Original Message -
> From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
>
>
> > Dear Megan
> > If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising
> > ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!
> >
> > Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn
> > around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!
> >
> > And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of
elective
> > C/s on an arbitary date!!
> > Denise Hynd
> >
> > "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the
> > sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
> > anyone, our bodies will be handled."
> >
> > - Linda Hes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
> >
> >
> >> Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please
> >> contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is
> >> in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse
baby
> >> and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB)
because
> >> the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of
> >> uterine rupture!!
> >> Thanks Megan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Vedrana Valčić]

I have a friend whose baby is transverse (she's 32 weeks now) and as I was 
searching the mail archives for some advice, I came up to this message. What do 
you do with bicycle shorts? Just wear them and the baby turns?

Vedrana

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:31 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

Bicycle shorts! Cheap, simple and hugely effective!
J
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


> Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and
> there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?
> Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and has
any
> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?
> sue
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing"
> Edmund Burke
> - Original Message -
> From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
>
>
> > Dear Megan
> > If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising
> > ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!
> >
> > Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn
> > around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!
> >
> > And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of
elective
> > C/s on an arbitary date!!
> > Denise Hynd
> >
> > "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the
> > sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
> > anyone, our bodies will be handled."
> >
> > - Linda Hes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
> >
> >
> >> Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please
> >> contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is
> >> in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse
baby
> >> and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB)
because
> >> the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of
> >> uterine rupture!!
> >> Thanks Megan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Mary Murphy]

Thanks for posting info on this site. I didn't know of its existence. I know
about all the techniques, but it is a great site to tell the women about so
they can see for themselves.  I will recommend it to my clients. MM 

"The Spinning Babes website has more information. J"

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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Janet Fraser]

If I was the woman in question, the very last thing I'd ask for is ECV, Too
dangerous and unpredictable. The Spinning Babes website has more information
on moving less-then-optimal babies than I have ever seen anywhere else.
Gentle Birth archives has a massive amount too along with explanations of
using homeopathic pulsatilla. There are many avenues to explore, including,
as I wrote earlier, bicycle shorts. Very effective!
J
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From: "Mary Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:05 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies


> Sue writes: "How long has the baby been transverse and has any
> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?"
>
> I have often wondered why ECV is not offered to women with transverse lie
in
> the same way it is offered to Breech babies.  Or is it routinely offered
and
> I don't know about it?  Also knowing what parity is the lady and what
> gestation is this baby? A bit more info is needed before we can comment
> intelligently. MM
>
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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Janet Fraser]

Bicycle shorts! Cheap, simple and hugely effective!
J
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


> Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and
> there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?
> Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and has
any
> attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?
> sue
> "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> nothing"
> Edmund Burke
> - Original Message -
> From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
>
>
> > Dear Megan
> > If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising
> > ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!
> >
> > Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn
> > around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!
> >
> > And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of
elective
> > C/s on an arbitary date!!
> > Denise Hynd
> >
> > "Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the
> > sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
> > anyone, our bodies will be handled."
> >
> > - Linda Hes
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies
> >
> >
> >> Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please
> >> contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is
> >> in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse
baby
> >> and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB)
because
> >> the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of
> >> uterine rupture!!
> >> Thanks Megan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Mary Murphy]

Sue writes: "How long has the baby been transverse and has any 
attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?"

I have often wondered why ECV is not offered to women with transverse lie in
the same way it is offered to Breech babies.  Or is it routinely offered and
I don't know about it?  Also knowing what parity is the lady and what
gestation is this baby? A bit more info is needed before we can comment
intelligently. MM 

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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Susan Cudlipp]

Surely if this baby is truly stuck in a transverse position at term (and 
there has been no mention of gestation) a C/S would be necessary?
Is she a primip or multi? How long has the baby been transverse and has any 
attempt been made to encourage it to a more favourable position?

sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do 
nothing"

Edmund Burke
- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies



Dear Megan
If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising 
ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!


Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn 
around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!


And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of elective 
C/s on an arbitary date!!

Denise Hynd

"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled."


- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please 
contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is 
in need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse baby 
and apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB) because 
the uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of 
uterine rupture!!

Thanks Megan



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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Denise Hynd]

Dear Megan
If it were not such a sad situation you could laugh at the patronising 
ignorance or is that arrogance and obsurdity of this Obs!


Sounds like the next step is C/s for babies who have the nerve to turn 
around completely as that also stretches  the uterus!


And of caourse he has not talk of the risks to mother and baby of elective 
C/s on an arbitary date!!

Denise Hynd

"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by 
anyone, our bodies will be handled."


- Linda Hes

- Original Message - 
From: "Megan Woodman-Browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies


Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please 
contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is in 
need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse baby and 
apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB) because the 
uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of uterine 
rupture!!

Thanks Megan



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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Megan Woodman-Browning]

Dear Sally, I am an independant midwife in Melbourne. could you please 
contact me  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have a friend of a friend who is in 
need of a professional further opinion in regards to a transverse baby and 
apparently a LUSCS is definitely needed (according to her OB) because the 
uterus has been stretched in an abnormal way and she is at risk of uterine 
rupture!!

Thanks Megan



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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[brendamanning]

She is a Multi !
Some good contractions are all that's probably needed & the baby will come 
down when she starts labouring - odds on !

Don't fret.
Have faith !!


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From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject: [ozmidwifery] High babies



Just a quick question...a vbac mum with her fifth baby (to be 4th vag
birth) is concerned she is 40+3 and babe is still high (according to her
OB).  Is there anything she can do to bring baby down?  As a vbac you
start to fret about things like this especially when you have someone
sharpening their knives in the back ground. Any suggestions?  I have
suggested walking relaxation and rest to see if she loosens up mentally
she might lossen up physically also.

Thanks Jo

PS you cant half tell most of you are all playing in Brisbane!!  The
list is s quiet!

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Re: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[mmoon]

Jo,
It is true that babes of multips often don't engage until labor.  However
I have found that a babe who does not come into the brim at all before
labor often turns out to have associating factors that may lead to
cesarean section i.e. deflexed head, very large birthweight etc.  All you
can do is watch, wait, encourage mum  and monitor labour.

Meaghan, from Canada, recovered from jet lag in Melbourne and flying to
Brisbane tomorrow.  How exciting!!!

> Just a quick question...a vbac mum with her fifth baby (to be 4th vag
> birth) is concerned she is 40+3 and babe is still high (according to her
> OB).  Is there anything she can do to bring baby down?  As a vbac you
> start to fret about things like this especially when you have someone
> sharpening their knives in the back ground. Any suggestions?  I have
> suggested walking relaxation and rest to see if she loosens up mentally
> she might lossen up physically also.
>
> Thanks Jo
>
> PS you cant half tell most of you are all playing in Brisbane!!  The
> list is s quiet!
>
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RE: [ozmidwifery] High babies

[Sally Westbury]

It in not usual for a woman to have an engaged baby if she has had
previous vaginal births. It would be more surprising if the baby was
engaged.

Love Sally
Homebirth Midwife
Fremantle

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[ozmidwifery] High babies

[Dean & Jo]

Just a quick question...a vbac mum with her fifth baby (to be 4th vag
birth) is concerned she is 40+3 and babe is still high (according to her
OB).  Is there anything she can do to bring baby down?  As a vbac you
start to fret about things like this especially when you have someone
sharpening their knives in the back ground. Any suggestions?  I have
suggested walking relaxation and rest to see if she loosens up mentally
she might lossen up physically also.

Thanks Jo

PS you cant half tell most of you are all playing in Brisbane!!  The
list is s quiet!

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