Re: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
What, so we give it on day 3 so the baby's are grumpy when they get home and we don't have to be super nannie on postnatal? Just stirring... we do it to. but I will warn parents better about the possible side effects from now on. (Many decline anyway) Cheers, Julie:) - Original Message - From: Judy Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth Our unit gives it at the same time as the neonatal screen for that very reason. Cheers Judy --- Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Lyle, If you go back through the archives of ozmid, I think there was a big discussion on this about 4+ yrs ago or so. Their was an excellent article written by a midwife in ?Qld about the effects of Hep B post birth and it's effect on establishing BF. Can't remember her name, but will try and find it. And I remember this so well because I had my 2nd baby immunized with Hep B at Day 2 (I was leaving the hosp) but I don't know whether it was co-incidence or not, but that baby and I struggled and eventually ceased BF after several months as it was taking a toll on both of us. With the 3rd baby 20 months later I refused Hep B at birth, due to this article I had read on the list (dr raised an eyebrow, but said nothing!) and had it at the 8 week visit instead. Vastly better BF experience. Cheryl From: Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:55:36 +1100 Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dhol%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_Txt_Link_Holiday_Oct06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Lyle, Ozmid archives March 2003 Sandra J Eales Excellent discussion and article. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Hi, Ewmail or speak to Kathy Scarborough from Vaccination Information South Aus (VISA), she is up to date on all things Hep B. She does tour occaisionally, worth a listen. http://www.visainfo.org.au/ Cheers Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Burgoyne Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 1:26 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] hep b @ birth
Our unit gives it at the same time as the neonatal screen for that very reason. Cheers Judy --- Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , A number of staff in our unit have commented that babies who have Hep B immunisation just after birth seem much more unsettled for the first 24-48 hrs than those babies who don't have the immunisation .Has anyone else noticed this or are we just imaging things ?? Our unit has only recently changed to offering Hep B immunisation after birth at the same time as the Konakion,we used to give it on day 3 or 4. Interested in any comments or if anyone knows if any studies have been done . Thanks Lyle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re:[ozmidwifery]Hep B Birth dose
Hi Sandra Got to say how much I admire your approach to this vaccination. Like you I have problems sticking a baby with a needle before they have had a chance to adapt to extrauterine life.We give out a consent form but when I give it to women booking in I make it clear that this is their decision and that it is important that they research it further. We have a handout which was adapted from an article written by a WA home birth midwife which we can provide to parents who want further information.The only time I could see it may have to be given at birth is where a child is being placed in day care at an early age or the parents are going to a country where Hep B is endemic. I have been vaccinated and initially seroconverted. Another antibody level done following a needlestick injury about 7-8 years after the initial immunisation showed low antibody levels and I was advised I would not seroconvert if I received another booster. However when I had levels done following a recent needlestick injury( Drs and their sharps-don't you love them) it showed high levels of antibody again. I can only assume I had been exposed at some stage and my immune system kicked in as a result of the original immunisation. Regards Jane
Re: Re:[ozmidwifery]Hep B Birth dose
Jane We don't give out any literature other than what is supplied by QHealth and Immunise Australia.(We did not wantto load the guns of thepowers-that-be) There is enough in those, when parents attention is brought to the relevant and worrying sections to make room for a discussion about the risks/benefits for that individual family. Eg "Extra Fluids before your milk comes in? pain and fever from Hep B atthe same time as your baby is recovering from birth? Is this necessary? What is the risk of you baby getting thedisease? If you plan on getting your baby immunised at 2 an 4 months then it will be covered then anyway." We do have an advantage that the women know and trust us as they see a particular midwife throughout the pregnancy but midwives everywhere should be having the same conversations with parents prior to administration of the vaccine. It is a requirement of informed consent that there is full disclosure of risks of treatment vs risks of disease. Sandra - Original Message - From: CJ Knight To: ozmidwifery Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: Re:[ozmidwifery]Hep B Birth dose Hi Sandra Got to say how much I admire your approach to this vaccination. Like you I have problems sticking a baby with a needle before they have had a chance to adapt to extrauterine life.We give out a consent form but when I give it to women booking in I make it clear that this is their decision and that it is important that they research it further. We have a handout which was adapted from an article written by a WA home birth midwife which we can provide to parents who want further information.The only time I could see it may have to be given at birth is where a child is being placed in day care at an early age or the parents are going to a country where Hep B is endemic. I have been vaccinated and initially seroconverted. Another antibody level done following a needlestick injury about 7-8 years after the initial immunisation showed low antibody levels and I was advised I would not seroconvert if I received another booster. However when I had levels done following a recent needlestick injury( Drs and their sharps-don't you love them) it showed high levels of antibody again. I can only assume I had been exposed at some stage and my immune system kicked in as a result of the original immunisation. Regards Jane
