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Yes, there are quite a few groups of independent midwives around the country. I will forward this request to the midwifery chat line and am sure you will get some responses. The group in Victoria, which I am personally involved with, is Midwives in Private Practice, which is a member group of the Maternity Coalition Inc. Joy Johnston 25 Eley Rd Blackburn South Vic 3130 Tel:03 9808 9614 Fax:03 9808 3611 M: 04111 90448 www.aitex.com.au/joy.htm -Original Message- From: Connolly, Belinda [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:07 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:independent midwives Hi, I'm a journalist for Practical Parenting magazine and I'm trying to find an independent midwives association. Are you aware of such group? I'd really appreciate if you could provide me with a contact number, or website address. Cheers, Belinda Belinda Connolly Writer / Sub-editor Practical Parenting Level 2 Stockland House 181 Castlereagh St Sydney 1028 02 9288 9608 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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-- Sally K Tracy Australian Midwifery Action Project (AMAP) dear Sally I sent this yesterday - I am not on ozemidwifery but you may think that it should go there. If so, could you post it. Ta CXXX -Original Message- From: Caroline Homer Sent: Monday, 30 July 2001 9:11 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Pat Brodie (E-mail) Subject: RE: Independent Midwives Dear Senator Eggleston I refer to this message which you sent to a independent midwife after she wrote requesting support from federal politicians in relation to an issue which does affect women in Australia. I take great offense to your diatribe (in capital letters and with spelling mistakes). Perhaps you have forgotten that you are elected to your position by women in Western Australia. This form of verbal abuse across the email system is unacceptable. I note from your website that you are a medical practitioner. Perhaps then you would be advised to read the evidence (which can be found in the medical literature) pertaining to this matter. I am afraid you are poorly informed at this stage. I am intrigued that in an election year you would resort to such public abuse as demonstrated in this email. I am disappointed that this is the calibre of our federal politicians. I certainly will be advising all women I come in contact with that the Liberal Party has such ignorance within its ranks and to vote against your party in the forthcoming election. Caroline Homer PhD Midwife -Original Message- From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sue Cooper' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives YOU SHOULD THANK THE LORD YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY COMPLICATIONS SUCH AS A SHOULDER DYSTOCIA OR A HAEMORAGE ... WOMEN HAVE REWPONSIBILITY TO THE UNBORN CHILD TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICES OF MODERN MEDICAL SKILLS AND TECHNOLOGY ARE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED. THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS PAID BT DOCTORS ENGAGED IN OBSTETRICS ARE SO HIGH BECAUSE THE ELEMENT OF RISK IS SUCH THAT IF THERE IS ANY SUGGESTION OF SUBSTANDARD SERVICE COURTS WILL AWARD PUNITIVE DAMAGES. IF MIDWIVES WANT TO PRACTISE IN THE MODERN WORLD THEY SHOULD DO MEDICINE BECOME DOCTORS AND TRAIN AS OBSTETRECIANS. THIS IS 2001 NOT 1701. *** This email and the files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not permitted to distribute or use this message or any of its attachments in any way. We also request that you advise the sender of the incorrect addressing. This note also confirms that this email message has been virus scanned and although no computer viruses were detected, South East Health accepts no liability for any consequential damage resulting from email containing any computer viruses. ***
RE: Independent Midwives
I want to add my support to this call for bridge-building and closer co-operation/mutual respect/support between the various professionals involved in birthing services. I have chosen not to engage any further in the current debate with the Senator, even though I wish I had a way of saying something that would clearly present what I believe to be the truth. You see, although we have the WHO statement about the midwife being the most appropriate primary carer, although we have the ICM Definition of a midwife, which is endorsed by both the International Federation of Gynecologists and Obstetricians, and WHO - yet there is a strong belief in our society that obstetric management is better/safer/more appropriate than any other option. As long as a person such as Senator Eggleston believes that, he would be going against his personal integrity to support anything else, ESPECIALLY a service that her honestly believes is inferior. As long as this perception is held, Senator Eggleston and millions of other professionals and consumers in this country will continue to support a system that is based on a very shaky foundation. AND they will believe they are acting in the best interest of the public they are committed to serve. It is therefore obvious that education to change the mindset, that midwife primary care is no less safe than medical management, is urgently needed. A few years ago I was at a meeting, at which Prof Marc Kierse (of Effective Care) was asked a question about who looks after pregnant women in Holland. He replied very quickly to the effect that an obstetrician is a specialist, and doesn't want to waste his/her time with well women. That's the midwife's job, and the midwife sends women to him if they need to see him. That's collaboration, cooperation, and professional respect in action. Joy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Independent Midwives
I did include all the other politicians (on Julie's list) as well, however I had to send 3 emails because I had too many reciepients for one email!
Re: Independent Midwives
Dear Senator, Thank you for reply. I accept that 1701 was a typographical error. Nevertheless, I feel thatyou still fail to recognise the safety of midwifery care. It is not a highly litigious area. An equalpartnership is formed between a woman and herindependent midwife.The womanis given unbiased, evidence-based information upon which she makes the decisions. Nothing is done to her without her consent. There isgood communication between a woman and her midwife. I believe that many cases before the courts are brought about through a woman's desire to just find out 'what happened' and the medical profession's refusal to 'give honest answers' and admit they made mistakes.I'm sure many women will tell you it's 'not about the money'. The insurance companys need to know this. Yours sincerely, Andrea Bilcliff. - Original Message - From: "Eggleston, Alan (Senator)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: FW: Independent Midwives Dear Andrea this is the full exchange of emails on this matter
Re: Independent Midwives
This bounced so I'm sending it again. Sorry if I've confused anyone with my earlier message. Dear Senator Eggleston,I read with much interest your response to Suzanne Cooper (copied below). I agree entirely, that women have a responsibility to their unborn child to ensure that the services of modern medical skills and technology are available if needed. Healthy pregnant women choosing to birth with a midwife at home or in the hospital should not be denied access to such care IF NEEDED. Governments ALSO have a duty to ensure that women have unrestricted access to this care.Unfortunately, this is not the case in Australia. Healthy pregnant women who make the informed choice to birth with independent midwives are saving the Government thousands of dollars in often unnecessary expensive antenatal testing and screening, interventions, and the resultant morbidity associated with them. Yet they are often denied access to back up medical care and their midwives are refused visiting rights. Now the midwives are being denied access to insurance!Many of the complications associated with birth in healthy women are as a result of interfering with the natural process. Midwives respect the natural process and are highly skilled in 'normal' pregnancy and birth. They can recognise deviations from 'normal' and refer when needed. Obstetricians are highly skilled in the 'abnormal'. Midwives recognise and respect this expertise. Unfortunately midwives are not afforded the same respect and recognition.Are you suggesting that in the "modern world" there is no place for the natural process? That all women should have their babies extracted by instruments or surgically removed? Or are you suggesting that obstetricians should support women in labour continuously for the 12, 24 or however many hours it takes? I'd like to see that!I strongly recommend that you read the world-wide evidence that supports the safety and cost effectiveness of midwifery. You are right...this is 2001 not 1701. It is about time Australia looked at what is happening out there in the "modern world"!Yours sincerely,Andrea Bilcliff.-Original Message-From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 'Sue Cooper' [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:44 PMSubject: RE: Independent MidwivesYOU SHOULD THANK THE LORD YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY COMPLICATIONS SUCH AS ASHOULDER DYSTOCIA OR A HAEMORAGE ... WOMEN HAVE REWPONSIBILITY TO THEUNBORN CHILD TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICES OF MODERN MEDICAL SKILLS AND TECHNOLOGYARE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED.THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS PAID BT DOCTORS ENGAGED IN OBSTETRICS ARE SO HIGHBECAUSE THE ELEMENT OF RISK IS SUCH THAT IF THERE IS ANY SUGGESTION OFSUBSTANDARD SERVICE COURTS WILL AWARD PUNITIVE DAMAGES.IF MIDWIVES WANT TO PRACTISE IN THE MODERN WORLD THEY SHOULD DO MEDICINEBECOME DOCTORS AND TRAIN AS OBSTETRECIANS.THIS IS 2001 NOT 1701.
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LOOKS LIKE THIS PERSON HAS HER/HIS MIND CLOSED SHUT. MM - Original Message - From: Marie Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: Fw: Independent Midwives and more ! - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ - Original Message - From: Sue Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marie Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Fw: Independent Midwives and this -Original Message- From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sue Cooper' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives I do not dispute the arguement about choice , however the interests of the unborn child also deserve full consideration and that implies a ready availability of modern medical services to manage complications which may adversely affect the child. Clearly that is the view of the insurance industry in this matter. You have obviously broadcast the initial reply to your email . I trust you will have the courtesy to distribute the further ones as well. -Original Message- From: Sue Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 7:09 PM To: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) Subject: Re: Independent Midwives I don't doubt for one second that obstetricians are a valuable asset to a percentage of pregnancies and birth, and that serious complications can occur during pregnancy and labour. My point is that all women and their families should have a choice, and an informed one, as to who their caregiver will be. Midwives play a huge role and as I am sure you are aware they should be the main care giver, and an obstetrician used when a problem arises. Independent midwives are used at home, in hospital and in birthing centres. The best outcome would be for midwives and obstetricians to work together, as they do, successfully, in other countries. Some women would prefer a high tech pregnancy and birth with all of the mod cons, others would prefer a more in depth pregnancy and birth. Aren't all women entitled their own informed choice? -Original Message- From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sue Cooper' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives The flaw in your arguement is that serious obstetric complications can occur without warning and the insurance industry has clearly come to the conclusion that the risk element is such that the industry is not in a position to cover the risk. The trend over many years has been towards specialist management of obstetrics in a hospital setting and as I am sure you would know these days not many GPs are involved in managing labour and of those who are almost all have post graduate training and qualifications in obstetrics which is required because of the higher standard of knowledge and expertise regarded as necessary in this day and age. I am sure you would not dispute that obestricshas undergone enormous changes since the 1960s and the expectations of the community have risen with respect to outcomes in medicine in general , not just Obstetrics. -Original Message- From: Sue Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 1:25 PM To: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) Subject: Re: Independent Midwives This reply just goes to show your obvious lack of knowledge on the subject. Would you go to an Ear Nose and Throat surgeon if you had a cold? or a GP? That is what midwives are. Obstericians are only supposed to be used for problems. I would also like to point out that independent midwives do births in hospitals and birth centres aswell, you are obviously of the incorrect assumption that they only do them on the side of the road. Thank you for your reply, it will go nicely tagged onto the bottom of my next group of letters to the media. Sue Cooper -Original Message- From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sue Cooper' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives YOU SHOULD THANK THE LORD YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY COMPLICATIONS SUCH AS A SHOULDER DYSTOCIA OR A HAEMORAGE ... WOMEN HAVE REWPONSIBILITY TO THE UNBORN CHILD TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICES OF MODERN MEDICAL SKILLS AND TECHNOLOGY ARE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED. THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS PAID BT DOCTORS ENGAGED IN OBSTETRICS ARE SO HIGH BECAUSE THE ELEMENT OF RISK IS SUCH THAT IF THERE IS ANY SUGGESTION OF SUBSTANDARD SERVICE COURTS WILL AWARD PUNITIVE DAMAGES. IF MIDWIVES WANT TO PRACTISE IN THE MODERN WORLD THEY SHOULD DO MEDICINE , BECOME DOCTORS AND TRAIN AS OBSTETRECIANS. THIS IS 2001
Re: Independent Midwives - So who is Senator Eggleston???????????
In a message dated 20/07/01 10:06:50 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOOKS LIKE THIS PERSON HAS HER/HIS MIND CLOSED SHUT. MM Hi all, After reading all of dear Senator Eggleston's responses to this issue, I started to smell a rat. I like MM could see that this man was very set in his ways and not negtiable on this issue and seemed to have a pathological adversion to midwifery. Why I asked?? Who is this man?? Where has his gross disregard for the skills of midwives developed from??? I went to the Australian Liberal party website and did a little researching. Surprise, surprise surprise ! Look what I found!! http://search.aph.gov.au/search/ParlInfo.ASP?Folder=BIOGSCriteria=name_id:4L6 ;action=bookmark Senator Alan Egglestons was a GP Obstetrician before entering politics!!! Now, this suddenly makes me feel a hell of alot better, in that I now know who'm I'm dealing with. For interest these are his Qualifications listed on the website above for his biographical details. MRCS, LRCP, DOBst, RCOG, DRACOG, FRACOP, BA (Murdoch) Medical Practitioner 1969-1996. Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife. Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Independent Midwives - So who is Senator Eggleston???????????
In a message dated 20/07/01 10:34:30 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For interest these are his Qualifications listed on the website above for his biographical details. MRCS, LRCP, DOBst, RCOG, DRACOG, FRACOP, Oopps, made a mistake in the letters behind his name. FRACOP - should read FRACGP !! I'd hate to misrepresnt him. Hell knows, he might sue me !! Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife. Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Independent Midwives - So who is Senator Eggleston???????????
In a message dated 20/07/01 10:57:33 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm, VERY interesting, Tina. So why isn't he an OB now? Even MORE power and money in Politics... The concept of birth as pathological is like a disease, isn't it? Regards, Lois Hi Lois, given that his biography says he was a medical practioner for nearly thirty years, my guess is that politics is a comfy prelude to retirement with all its MP super perks etc etc... Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife. Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: Independent Midwives - So who is Senator Eggleston???????????
I hope that this indemnity issue could yet be seen as an opportunity for bridge-building and closer co-operation/mutual respect/support between the various professionals involved in birthing services. Obstetricians and GP's have (albeit in a less urgent dramatic fashion) been struggling with this for several years. Unfortunately MIPP's, like privately practicing medicos don't have the security that hospital/state indemnity provides their public colleagues. I hope that someone is trying to sit down and find common ground with medical groups who are also calling for a NZ system of compensation. I would be surprised and disappointed if you didn't receive support from college leaders. Such crises demonstrate the importance of having lines of communication open, and working relationships already formed - even if there are other issues on which groups/individuals disagree. I doubt that its helpful to focus on individuals who are clearly not supportive. David -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Dear Senator, Thank you for your reply. I was not aware that Senator Eggleston was previously in the medical profession, although I had my suspicions from the tone of his emails! The issue of "adequate and accessible medical back-up" is a central one. Midwives are experts in the care ofhealthy women during pregnancy and birth. Obstetricians are experts incomplicated pregnancy and birth. The roles are complimentary and thereshould beno competition between the two. Midwives do not wish to perform caesarean sections any more than obstetricians wish to spend hours with a woman in labour. Midwives seek to refer and transfer to the medical back-upWHEN NEEDED.However the current system prevents this from happening. I am not sure which "midwife representatives" at the senate enquiry into childbirth you spoke to, but I can most definitely assure you that midwives are legally liable for their actions with or without the presence of a doctor! I refer you to the internationally accepted definition of a midwife: "A midwife is a person who, having been regularly admitted to a midwifery educational program, duly recognised in the country in which it is located, has successfully completed the prescribed course of studies in midwifery and has acquired the requisite qualifications to be registered and/or legally licensed to practise midwifery. She must be able to give the necessary supervision care and advice to women during pregnancy, labour and the postpartum period, to conduct deliveries [assist the birthing woman] on her own responsibility and to care for the newborn and the infant. This care includes preventative measures, the detection of abnormal conditions in mother and child, the procurement of medical assistance and the execution of emergency measures in the absence of medical help..." Yes,both professions should be working together for the best outcomes for women. The Government should also be working withboth professions and ceasing to support the current medical monopoly of the maternity system. Yours sincerely, Andrea Bilcliff. - Original Message - From: Tchen, Tsebin (Senator) To: 'Andrea Bilcliff' Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives Dear Ms Bilcliff, You are probably not aware that Senator Eggleston is a doctor and before going into the Senator had a practice in outback WA. So he would have a good idea on how a birth's natural process might turn out to be a life-threatening medical process. Alan Eggelston is an open-minded and easy-going person, so I think you can be sure that he does not discount the benefits of natural child birth to both the mother and the child - provided there is adequate and accessible medical back-up. I am not sure if midwives are legally liablethe wayobstetrecians are. My impression from evidenceI heard frommidwife representatives at the senate inquiry into child birth was that they are not. I don't think the midwife representativesclaimed any expertise for assessing the condition of the festus, and they apparently were releived oftheir responsibilities during birth once a doctor took over. Your argument that child birth is a natural process and should be allowed to take place naturally is a central theme, but I have yet to hear a representative midwife practitioner state categorically at what point a child birth is no longer natural but the health of both the mother and the baby is still unimpaired. I think the real issue should not be whether there is a "best" child birth procedure or which profession is "best" at child birth, but how these professions should work together to ensure the best outcome. Tsebin Tchen
Re: Independent Midwives - So who is Senator Eggleston???????????
I doubt that its helpful to focus on individuals who are clearly not supportive. I totally agree with David. Don't let this guy become your focus, or you will aim all your anger, frustration and fear at him, instead of funnelling that energy towards fixing the insurance problem. In focusing on him, you are going off on a tangent, and wasting precious time and energy. REFOCUS! Write him off and approach supportive pollies... You can put a little black mark next to his name as your next project, or use his comments during this campaign to display the problems midwives are facing in accessing support, etc, but don't focus on him. That energy can be so much better utilised elsewhere. BB Jackie. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Thought this reply would be of interest to the list Wow! All in CAPITAL letters, too! Ha. Don't take it to heart, Marie. How many responses like this did you receive? A very small minority will always oppose initiative, no matter how vital the initiative actually is. Also, when someone is so angry, you must understand that they have a reason for the anger. Understanding is what they need. They need to look within themselves to see why they feel so strongly, but they may be too frightened to actually do so. Midwives do an amazingly positive job, in a society that is driven by technology - technology that is often abused by people protecting themselves from litigation. Defensive medicine is not good medicine... Thank God for technology when it's needed, and thank God for faith in a woman's body to birth without technology when it isn't needed. Midwives are trained to deal without technology, as much as it is safe to do so - where would we be without midwives, and without Obstetricians (when they are needed). Thankyou to both professions! I, for one, recognise the importance of each. Take care all, Birthing Beautifully, Jackie Mawson. Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc. Visit our Website at: http://www.birthrites.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 61 08 9418 8949 Please note I am not a Professional Healthcare Provider, and all opinions given in this email are not to be taken as medical, or legal, advice. Please seek such advice from the relevant professional service. Email me your postal details for a FREE copy of our quarterly magazine, if you live within Australia - Overseas postage costs are above budget, sorry! Too many Gods; so many creeds, Too many paths that wind and wind, When just the art of being kind Is all the sad world needs... -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Independent Midwives hosting ACMI branch meeting
C wrote: Dear Colleagues, AN INVITATION TO ALL MIDWIVES I have organised a Brisbane branch meeting for the ACMI that will be sponsored by some Independent Midwives. We need as many Midwives Independent or not, as well as student midwives to attend this meeting.This gathering will enable Midwives and future Midwives to gain insight into Independent Practice. There will be ample opportunity to discuss current issues impacting on Independent Practice in Southeast Queensland.Lisca Hoy will be our guest speaker. Lisca is presently completing her PhD on sudying Independent Midwives around the world.I urge as many of you to attend this meeting.When: Thursday, 23rd September, 1999Where: Queensland Health Bld., 3rd Floor Charlotte Street, Brisbane. You will be required to 'sign in' at the reception on arrival.Time: 7pm-9pmFree parking can be provided under the Queensland Health Bld. If you require parking, contact me with your name and car rego. number by 19th September, 1999. OR there is plenty of parking stations in Charlotte street at a reasonable cost.If you would also like to help set up or bring some munchies it would be greatly appreciated.If you require any further info. please contact me either by E-mail or phone 07 3300 3579.See you there.Anne Clarke'Birth is as safe as life gets!'
Re: Independent Midwives hosting ACMI branch meeting
Anne, is this an oversight or are consumers really not welcome here? Marina Original Message Follows Dear Colleagues, AN INVITATION TO ALL MIDWIVES I have organised a Brisbane branch meeting for the ACMI that will be sponsored by some Independent Midwives. We need as many Midwives Independent or not, as well as student midwives to attend this meeting. This gathering will enable Midwives and future Midwives to gain insight into Independent Practice. There will be ample opportunity to discuss current issues impacting on Independent Practice in Southeast Queensland. Lisca Hoy will be our guest speaker. Lisca is presently completing her PhD on sudying Independent Midwives around the world. I urge as many of you to attend this meeting. When:Thursday, 23rd September, 1999 Where:Queensland Health Bld., 3rd Floor Charlotte Street, Brisbane. You will be required to 'sign in' at the reception on arrival. Time:7pm-9pm Free parking can be provided under the Queensland Health Bld. If you require parking, contact me with your name and car rego. number by 19th September, 1999. OR there is plenty of parking stations in Charlotte street at a reasonable cost. If you would also like to help set up or bring some munchies it would be greatly appreciated. If you require any further info. please contact me either by E-mail or phone 07 3300 3579. See you there. Anne Clarke 'Birth is as safe as life gets!' __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
