Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
Thanks to Miriam, Julie and Anne for your replies to my query re-evening primrose oil. Cheers, Joanne. - Original Message - From: Julie Garratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Fw: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil Hi Mim and Joanne, I as Mim says I've seen evening primrose oil used to ripen the cx of post date women in the Philippines 40+1-2 weeks. What we did was pierce a hole in the gel capsule (one) and squirt the contence around high in the vagina. Either these overdue women would have gone into labour anyway, it was placebic/psychological or just another excuse to stir things up a bit I cant be sure of unless someone does the research. Seemed to work, no side that I saw. Sorry I cant be more specific, I have been meaning to look this up but haven't had the reason or opportunity since I've been back. I read the list every day and have done for several years now, I find this midwifery collective consciousness invaluable:) Look forward to what you uncover. Julie (3rd year BMid fusa) - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil --- Hi Joanne, I have no experience with this method but spoke some months ago to a fellow Bmid student who came across it while on a clinical placement at a free standing birth centre in the Phillipines. Apparently the capsule is pierced then inserted into the vagina where the contents are squirted around the cervix, i'm not aure of dose etc but the student (Julie) is aporadically onlist I think so i'll text her and ask her to post more specific details. hope you have good luck with it! regards, miriam (2nd yr bmid fusa). Hi all, Has anyone used/advised evening primrose oil vaginally to ripen the cervix of overdue women? If so, what dose? Is the capsule of oil opened first or does it dissolve once inserted. Any studies done on this procedure at all? What are the possible side effects and hazards? How overdue do you recommend to use it? How often can it be inserted? What time of the day is best to insert it? I've heard that a tampon can be used to help keep it in place, is this so? Thanks heaps. Cheers Joanne -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps.
I can not believe there are units still doing rectal temperatures on well babies 22 years ago there was an astounding amount of research on the risks (anal sphinter trauma hyperstimualation when using a rigid thermometer) and misinformation about the benefit of this route and that was before Tympanic option was available Tympanics also have operator and machine failure rates which can be heithened with mec vernix in the ears If a child is this cold it should require at least a soft probe? Where is the informed consent in doing this invasive procedure on babies Sounds like so much more is needed to be done to keep sick and well babies Skin to skin with its parent . DeniseHynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Miriam Hannay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps. hi there, it is standard practice in our scbu, for all admissions. i have questioned this practice several times and the answer is usually that 'its necessary to establish patency'!?! had a babe come from theatre last week covered in mec and the midwife asks me to do a pr temp! i question again, and she backtracks saying 'its the best way of establishing accurate core temp'. this is so clearly not evidence based practice - i find it so frustrating! i'm thinking of doing a lit review on it for uni and would be interested in other people's opinions/experiences/information. regards miriam 2nd year bmid fusa Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 6/05/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
hi i know this is off the track but i would like to know if it is common practice in all SCBU that you do a rectal temp on neonates when they are admitted. i know that there is evidence to state this practice is not good and that we should be doing tympanic temps as they are far more accurate also can anyone point me in the right direction to find this as ive tried looking but can find the trial to print out thanks sharon Anne Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Joanne, The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women as per Birth Centre Induction of Labour booklet! Take Evening Primrose oil (gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert 2 in the vagina at bedtime--you must stay laying down on your side or else the caps may fall out (only try this as long as the bag of waters is intact). It doesn't START labour, only prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening Primrose oil at just about any health food/vitamin/herbal type store or supermarket. You can start taking about2 - 3 capsules orally daily at almost 38 weeks. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
Hi, I work in the neonatal unit, and we never do rectal temps. Nor do we do tympanic temps, they are all axilla. My opinion is that this must have varying levels of accuracy, depending on how careful you are with placement of the thermometer (have seen some very poor practice at times). One of the nurses at our NICU is doing research into tympanic vs traditional temp monitoring at present. Cheers Lindsay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 8:21 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil hi i know this is off the track but i would like to know if it is common practice in all SCBU that you do a rectal temp on neonates when they are admitted. i know that there is evidence to state this practice is not good and that we should be doing tympanic temps as they are far more accurate also can anyone point me in the right direction to find this as ive tried looking but can find the trial to print out thanks sharon Anne Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Joanne, The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women as per Birth Centre Induction of Labour booklet! Take Evening Primrose oil (gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert 2 in the vagina at bedtime--you must stay laying down on your side or else the caps may fall out (only try this as long as the bag of waters is intact). It doesn't START labour, only prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening Primrose oil at just about any health food/vitamin/herbal type store or supermarket. You can start taking about2 - 3 capsules orally daily at almost 38 weeks. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil to pr temps.
hi there, it is standard practice in our scbu, for all admissions. i have questioned this practice several times and the answer is usually that 'its necessary to establish patency'!?! had a babe come from theatre last week covered in mec and the midwife asks me to do a pr temp! i question again, and she backtracks saying 'its the best way of establishing accurate core temp'. this is so clearly not evidence based practice - i find it so frustrating! i'm thinking of doing a lit review on it for uni and would be interested in other people's opinions/experiences/information. regards miriam 2nd year bmid fusa Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
Dear Joanne, The dose for evening primrose oil for overdue women as per Birth Centre Induction of Labour booklet! Take Evening Primrose oil (gel-caps 500mg) orally 3 times per day and insert 2 in the vagina at bedtime--you must stay laying down on your side or else the caps may fall out (only try this as long as the bag of waters is intact). It doesn't START labour, only prepares the cervix. You can buy Evening Primrose oil at just about any health food/vitamin/herbal type store or supermarket. You can start taking about 2 - 3 capsules orally daily at almost 38 weeks.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening primrose oil
--- Hi Joanne, I have no experience with this method but spoke some months ago to a fellow Bmid student who came across it while on a clinical placement at a free standing birth centre in the Phillipines. Apparently the capsule is pierced then inserted into the vagina where the contents are squirted around the cervix, i'm not aure of dose etc but the student (Julie) is aporadically onlist I think so i'll text her and ask her to post more specific details. hope you have good luck with it! regards, miriam (2nd yr bmid fusa). Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil
Hi Karen, This is taken from Birthings' a Homebirth Access Sydney publication, the topic for this magazine was 'Natural Induction'. 'Evening Primrose Oil is a natural prostaglandin. The oil will assist in softening/ripen the cervical tissues and increase the flexibility of the pelvic ligaments, and will help the baby to deeply engage in the pelvis. It's also useful for softening scar tissue from abortions or IUD damage. You can take evening primrose oil, orally, in the last four weeks of your pregnancy. You should take three evening primrose oil capsules daily for the first week (36th week of gestation) and then one to two capsules a day for the last three weeks of pregnancy. In the last week you can insert 2 capsules into the vagina at bedtime as long as the bag of waters is intact'. I've also heard of midwives massaging the cervix with evening primrose oil but wouldn't know how often etc etc. Cheers Jo Hunter - Original Message - From: Fred and Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Evening Primrose oil Hi all, Just a query, can anyone tell me whether you have heard of evening primrose oil being used vaginally to help bring on labour? If so, how much, how often etc etc??? Many thanks Cheers Karen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
