RE: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
I try really hard to be careful with my wording! But still, it seems to take a while for replies to go through (sometimes if at all!). I do notice that the yahoo groups go through so quickly, often instantly, perhaps you could change to a Yahoo group instead, import all the email addresses in? It would require less maintenance too perhaps? This appears to be a mailman list, I used to use it and it was okay, but very fiddly. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Hunter Sent: Monday, 3 July 2006 5:29 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi all, I've looked into the problems that seem to be happening on the list, in particularly, that not all emails are being received by everyone. There are two issues that could be causing this problem, the first one is spam filters as already mentioned by Andrea. Unfortunately, there is no perfect technology available to make sure only real spam is filtered and all the email you want or expect to receive actually arrive in your inbox. This spam issue also affects some emails that are bouncing. As I don't always have time to go through all my spam mail to make sure I catch all bounces from the list. Although I will endeavour to be as thorough as I can, I do received over 100 spam emails a day (that's my problem though :-) ). I am currently going through my spam mail to fish out any bounces that aren't spam and will respond to anyone whose mail has wrongly ended up in my spam inbox. Some of the ways you can help to make sure all emails are received: * Have a think about the words you use in your email, spam filters are set up to catch key words. Some of these you may need to use due to the nature of your work but may also have a not spam typical description. * Only send emails to the list only and not copy in other people * Try not to use the special words in emails, like s*bscribe, uns*bscribe, j*in, c*ncel and h*lp (particularly in the subject heading). * Try to remember that the list doesn't like attachments. * When replying to messages try to only keep as much of the original message as is needed to make sense of your reply. Emails bounce when they are too long. * For those who view this list via the archives, unfortunately, you can only post emails to the list is you are a member. There is no reason why you can't join to send an email and then take yourself off the list after your email has been sent. I hope this is useful to you all. Please don't hesitate to contact me should you have any questions. Regards Kim At 03:05 25/06/2006, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here! The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP. Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time. I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions. Regards Andrea At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote: The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never
RE: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
One reason for outgoing mail not getting through is one's own AV software, which can stop emails going out if they contain certain words. That is the case with mine. Debbie Slater Perth, WA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Monday, 10 July 2006 10:54 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I try really hard to be careful with my wording! But still, it seems to take a while for replies to go through (sometimes if at all!). I do notice that the yahoo groups go through so quickly, often instantly, perhaps you could change to a Yahoo group instead, import all the email addresses in? It would require less maintenance too perhaps? This appears to be a mailman list, I used to use it and it was okay, but very fiddly. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Hunter Sent: Monday, 3 July 2006 5:29 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi all, I've looked into the problems that seem to be happening on the list, in particularly, that not all emails are being received by everyone. There are two issues that could be causing this problem, the first one is spam filters as already mentioned by Andrea. Unfortunately, there is no perfect technology available to make sure only real spam is filtered and all the email you want or expect to receive actually arrive in your inbox. This spam issue also affects some emails that are bouncing. As I don't always have time to go through all my spam mail to make sure I catch all bounces from the list. Although I will endeavour to be as thorough as I can, I do received over 100 spam emails a day (that's my problem though :-) ). I am currently going through my spam mail to fish out any bounces that aren't spam and will respond to anyone whose mail has wrongly ended up in my spam inbox. Some of the ways you can help to make sure all emails are received: * Have a think about the words you use in your email, spam filters are set up to catch key words. Some of these you may need to use due to the nature of your work but may also have a not spam typical description. * Only send emails to the list only and not copy in other people * Try not to use the special words in emails, like s*bscribe, uns*bscribe, j*in, c*ncel and h*lp (particularly in the subject heading). * Try to remember that the list doesn't like attachments. * When replying to messages try to only keep as much of the original message as is needed to make sense of your reply. Emails bounce when they are too long. * For those who view this list via the archives, unfortunately, you can only post emails to the list is you are a member. There is no reason why you can't join to send an email and then take yourself off the list after your email has been sent. I hope this is useful to you all. Please don't hesitate to contact me should you have any questions. Regards Kim At 03:05 25/06/2006, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here! The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP. Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time. I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions. Regards Andrea At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote: The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
Hi all, I've looked into the problems that seem to be happening on the list, in particularly, that not all emails are being received by everyone. There are two issues that could be causing this problem, the first one is spam filters as already mentioned by Andrea. Unfortunately, there is no perfect technology available to make sure only real spam is filtered and all the email you want or expect to receive actually arrive in your inbox. This spam issue also affects some emails that are bouncing. As I don't always have time to go through all my spam mail to make sure I catch all bounces from the list. Although I will endeavour to be as thorough as I can, I do received over 100 spam emails a day (that's my problem though :-) ). I am currently going through my spam mail to fish out any bounces that aren't spam and will respond to anyone whose mail has wrongly ended up in my spam inbox. Some of the ways you can help to make sure all emails are received: * Have a think about the words you use in your email, spam filters are set up to catch key words. Some of these you may need to use due to the nature of your work but may also have a not spam typical description. * Only send emails to the list only and not copy in other people * Try not to use the special words in emails, like s*bscribe, uns*bscribe, j*in, c*ncel and h*lp (particularly in the subject heading). * Try to remember that the list doesn't like attachments. * When replying to messages try to only keep as much of the original message as is needed to make sense of your reply. Emails bounce when they are too long. * For those who view this list via the archives, unfortunately, you can only post emails to the list is you are a member. There is no reason why you can't join to send an email and then take yourself off the list after your email has been sent. I hope this is useful to you all. Please don't hesitate to contact me should you have any questions. Regards Kim At 03:05 25/06/2006, you wrote: Hi Everyone, Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here! The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP. Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time. I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions. Regards Andrea At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote: The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer http://www.acmi.org.au/greatbirth.htmHaving a Great Birth in Australia, http://www.acmi.org.au/menatbirth.htmMen at Birth, http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/With%20WomenWith Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Click here to email me My other websites: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Kitty%20and%20%20MausKitty Maus | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Beryl%27s%20%20HansardBeryl' s Hansard | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Busy
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Thanks Andrea, I never send to more than one list at a time. I notice that when I log on directly to Ozmid to see if my mail is sitting there it always is but I just have seen mails there that never appear in by email box. Sorry I assumed it must be moderated. Glad it's not. Lisa - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi Lisa, This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We are definitely not blocking anyone's emails - again everyone is welcome to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years (long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that sometimes things don't go smoothly. We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone lines Again, I will ask Kim to investigate. Regards, Andrea -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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I've tried sending the same emails 4 times now and they're not through. Why is this so? J - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Thanks Andrea, I never send to more than one list at a time. I notice that when I log on directly to Ozmid to see if my mail is sitting there it always is but I just have seen mails there that never appear in by email box. Sorry I assumed it must be moderated. Glad it's not. Lisa - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi Lisa, This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We are definitely not blocking anyone's emails - again everyone is welcome to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years (long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that sometimes things don't go smoothly. We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone lines Again, I will ask Kim to investigate. Regards, Andrea -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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I The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
Hi Lisa, This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We are definitely not blocking anyone's emails - again everyone is welcome to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years (long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that sometimes things don't go smoothly. We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone lines Again, I will ask Kim to investigate. Regards, Andrea At 07:25 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote: I The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
Hi Everyone, Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here! The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP. Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time. I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions. Regards Andrea At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote: The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer http://www.acmi.org.au/greatbirth.htmHaving a Great Birth in Australia, http://www.acmi.org.au/menatbirth.htmMen at Birth, http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/With%20WomenWith Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Click here to email me My other websites: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Kitty%20and%20%20MausKitty Maus | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Beryl%27s%20%20HansardBeryl's Hansard | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Busy%20Dad%27s%20Guide%20to%20CookingBusy Dad's Guide to Cooking | _ -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hi, Just wanted to add, that I am currently on another Australian list (yahoo based), and the same problem has been there. Päivi - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi Lisa, This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We are definitely not blocking anyone's emails - again everyone is welcome to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years (long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that sometimes things don't go smoothly. We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone lines Again, I will ask Kim to investigate. Regards, Andrea At 07:25 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote: I The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Hear hear, Lisa. It seems way too coincidental what doesn't make it through! J - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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I have never sent any of my emails privately as well as to the list but I've had a number not appear once a subject starts to get contentious. J From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi Everyone, Can I first stress that this list is not moderated - no-one checks emails before they appear and no messages are filtered out. This is one of the few email lists that are free and open in this way. Everyone is welcome here! The list sometimes has problems, and we will investigate. Sometimes I get messages that for some reason are redirected to my spam filter where I pick them up - you could try checking there for missed emails. If the sender copies messages to other email addresses at the same time, this seems to cause the problem for me. For example, an email sent simultaneously to a string of private email address and/or several lists including this one, may get bounced as spam by your ISP. Try sending messages just to this list and don't copy to anyone else at the same time. I'll ask our list manager Kim for more suggestions. Regards Andrea At 09:41 AM 24/06/2006, you wrote: The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer http://www.acmi.org.au/greatbirth.htmHaving a Great Birth in Australia, http://www.acmi.org.au/menatbirth.htmMen at Birth, http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/With%20WomenWith Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Click here to email me My other websites: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Kitty%20and%20%20MausKitty Maus | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Beryl%27s%20%20HansardBeryl's Hansard | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Busy%20Dad%27s%20Guide%20to%20Cookin gBusy Dad's Guide to Cooking | _ -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
I run 2 yahoo groups and have never had this problem. Go figure?! Forums are superior because these issues don't occur and not hard or expensive to run. J - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi, Just wanted to add, that I am currently on another Australian list (yahoo based), and the same problem has been there. Päivi - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? Hi Lisa, This illustrates the point I made earlier. If a message is sent to several lists at the same time, your ISP may decide that it is a spam email. We are definitely not blocking anyone's emails - again everyone is welcome to contribute here. The ozmid lists has been going now for many many years (long before anyone else in OZ) and I guess we have to expect that sometimes things don't go smoothly. We have become so reliant on emails and so sure that they will get through we can forget that this whole service operates on sometime dodgy phone lines Again, I will ask Kim to investigate. Regards, Andrea At 07:25 PM 24/06/2006, you wrote: I The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
Lisa Barrett wrote: I am aware that not all my mails make it onto the list . I have felt that maybe they are not getting through because of the content and a whole section with mails from Justin Caines Jennifairy and myself didn't make it into my email box. I read them on the yahoo site as I was checking to see if my own mail was there. This puts me off replying because it just seems that maybe all points of view are not wanted. Lisa Barrett Independent Midwife. I know enough about the vagaries of computers (yes Im a closet nerd) to trust that there is no conspiracy by the Ozmid webmistress to censor certain emails. Realistically it would be a full time job to read every post to this list 'cull' the ones that dont fit the mold. Like childbirth midwifery, computer technology is not an exact science, there will always be 'glitches in the system', ghosts in the machine... yes I have had confused moments especially in the last 6 months or so on this list when I come across a reply to a post I never got as an original, etc. It does seem to be happening more than it used to (Ive been on off, but mostly on, the list now for about 5 years), it can be hard to track down where the problem is - users computer /mail settings, ISP settings, server settings, etc. For some reason KellyBelly's emails *always* used to end up in my Trash folder until I created a filter specifically for her posts to the list, to send them to my Ozmid folder (?!) go figure If it works 90% of the time then Im happy with that, we of all people should understand there are no guarantees of perfection, anyway the archive is there for reference if needed. Please dont refrain from posting Lisa, I for one appreciate your posts very much, you have a very valuable perspective to offer. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer http://www.acmi.org.au/greatbirth.htmHaving a Great Birth in Australia, http://www.acmi.org.au/menatbirth.htmMen at Birth, http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/With%20WomenWith Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Click here to email me My other websites: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Kitty%20and%20%20MausKitty Maus | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Beryl%27s%20%20HansardBeryl's Hansard | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Busy%20Dad%27s%20Guide%20to%20CookingBusy Dad's Guide to Cooking | _ -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
The emails that I am aware of not getting through have often been involving the same group of people, and/or regarding birth trauma, the ethics of choice, and then there is also mine and Janet's recent emails on birthplans (I've had two emails not appear yesterday, one was a follow up to David's commentary on the ethics of choice, and one was a response to Kelly's further query about Birthplans). Are other people having the same difficulty, or are specific emails being singled out and removed? This is highly frustrating and needs to be remedied for the list to function fairly and effectively. It's happening a lot right now but it's occurred multiple times historically too. - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? I often get the feeling that not all posts make it through, I see replies to messages that I never received etc. At 11:38 PM +1000 23/6/06, Great Birth Men at Birth wrote: G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer http://www.acmi.org.au/greatbirth.htmHaving a Great Birth in Australia, http://www.acmi.org.au/menatbirth.htmMen at Birth, http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/With%20WomenWith Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Click here to email me My other websites: http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Kitty%20and%20%20MausKitty Maus | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Beryl%27s%20%20HansardBeryl's Hansard | http://web.mac.com/david.vernon/iWeb/Busy%20Dad%27s%20Guide%20to%20CookingBusy Dad's Guide to Cooking | _ -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] List working properly???
I too often read responses but not seen the original email on the list. Its been particularly bad for a few months now. Megan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Great Birth Men at BirthSent: Friday, 23 June 2006 11:08 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] List working properly??? G'day, I'm aware that a few people have sent responses to my post of 20 June entitled "Consumer demand for inductions and caesareans" but they never appeared on the list (I got sent them personally when they didn't appear) Has the list been malfunctioning in the last few days? Cheers David David Vernon, Editor and Writer Having a Great Birth in Australia, Men at Birth, With Women - Shiftwork to Group Practice and The Hunt for Marasmus GPO Box 2314, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia Em: Click here to email me My other websites: Kitty Maus | Beryl's Hansard | Busy Dad's Guide to Cooking | _
