Hlep! GCC Link Error!
My application now grow a little bit larger than before. Now every time when I compile it, it return error message like this: PRC-TOOLS/H-I586-CYGWIN32/M68K-PALMOS/LIB/LIBCRT.A(hooks.o) (.text+0xa6):hooks.c: relocation truncated to fit: DISP16 start How to fix this? Thanks a lot in advance. -- Hong Yu -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Hlep! GCC Link Error!
Hong Yu wrote: My application now grow a little bit larger than before. Now every time when I compile it, it return error message like this: PRC-TOOLS/H-I586-CYGWIN32/M68K-PALMOS/LIB/LIBCRT.A(hooks.o) (.text+0xa6):hooks.c: relocation truncated to fit: DISP16 start How to fix this? Thanks a lot in advance. -- Hong Yu Your code is too big. You have to create multi-segment appl. Wojtek -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: OS 5 == High Development Cost?
From: Regis Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:09 PM quote It also works on 9x. PalmOS 5.0 has an abstraction layer which allows the same code to run native on several different HW, including WinTel platforms. Note that unlike POSEr the code runs native, thus very fast and easily debuggable with a native debugger (pick yours). As Jim mentioned there is no Mac version of the simulator yet mostly because of the endianess issue. There is no technical issue with making such a version except that the OS must be made endian-agnostic. When we ported PalmOS to ARM we tried to be careful when removing Big-endian dependency not to introduce Little-endian dependency but this is not a straight thing and I am pretty sure that it would not work directly on a big-endian processor. Your best way to ensure the widest compatibility is to test your app on both POSEr and PalmSim. Furthermore, PalmSim is a bringing some new features from POSEr making your debugger life easier. This includes a heap dump, event log, database dump, MUCH faster Gremlins and several other features. Check them out. /quote The PowerPC had, from the beginning, means to switch data endianness, and from the G3, Motorola removed the severe penalty the little-endian mode imposed on processing speed ---that's why Virtual PC 4 and 5 only run on G3 or better processors--. If you set Mac OS X as 'the Mac development platform', you have the guarantee of a PowerPC G3 or better. Anyway, you can impose a G3 as the minimum for the Mac version of the PalmSimulator, just as you removed 68k support from POSE, and have it run also on top of Mac OS 9, using maybe even the same libraries you're using... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: datamgr.c, Line:8624, Records left busy in closed unprotected DB
Does unprotected DB mean anything special? Max --- Steve Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: datamgr.c, Line:8624, Records left busy in closed unprotected DB You did a DmGetRecord with doing a matching DmReleaseRecord. Regards, Steve Mann = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Hlep! GCC Link Error!
Try to relocate the functions in the file or the link order first. If this doesn't help, try to cut some text strings in the source code. If all these fail, go to multi-segment. Max --- Wojciech Godynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hong Yu wrote: My application now grow a little bit larger than before. Now every time when I compile it, it return error message like this: PRC-TOOLS/H-I586-CYGWIN32/M68K-PALMOS/LIB/LIBCRT.A(hooks.o) (.text+0xa6):hooks.c: relocation truncated to fit: DISP16 start How to fix this? Thanks a lot in advance. -- Hong Yu Your code is too big. You have to create multi-segment appl. Wojtek -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Hlep! GCC Link Error!
Anybody please tell me how to make a multi_segment appl? Since my appl will keep growing. Thanks! Hong Yu -- Eusoftware Co., Ltd. www.eusoftware.com Max Bian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:76762@palm-dev-forum... Try to relocate the functions in the file or the link order first. If this doesn't help, try to cut some text strings in the source code. If all these fail, go to multi-segment. Max --- Wojciech Godynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hong Yu wrote: My application now grow a little bit larger than before. Now every time when I compile it, it return error message like this: PRC-TOOLS/H-I586-CYGWIN32/M68K-PALMOS/LIB/LIBCRT.A(hooks.o) (.text+0xa6):hooks.c: relocation truncated to fit: DISP16 start How to fix this? Thanks a lot in advance. -- Hong Yu Your code is too big. You have to create multi-segment appl. Wojtek -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Need help with input type=image tag
I'm trying to use a small form that has images for buttons utilizing: 'input type=image name=q3 src=pda_3.jpg' tag. I found in the Web Clipping Guide that the type my be TEXT, PASSWORD, CHECKBOX, RADIO, SUBMIT, RESET, HIDDEN, TIMEPICKER, DATEPICKER. I need a way to allow the palm to select x,y coordinates on a small image. I also noticed in the web clipping guide that image mapping is not supported. Is there anyway that I can have my web clipping application select an area on an image. The form with the input type image with a get method passes the x and y coordinate selected on the image. This is what I'm trying to find a way to do. Can anyone make any suggestions on how to do this? Jennifer Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] WBIR-TV 1513 Hutchinson Avenue Knoxville, TN 37917 865-541-5362 (direct line) or 865-637-1010 (main) -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Tap causes reset
Hello. I've had a Palm app that's been running fine from OS v3.1 until 4.0. On one form of my app, I allow the user to exit the form by tapping the Graffitti area (instead of cluttering the form with a button). It has worked fine up until OS 4.0. Now tapping the graffitti area causes a crash on an m505. When running on the emulator I get this error in the event loop: ... called a function in a shared library using a reference number of 25974. This reference number does not correspond to any currently installed library and is invalid. Any ideas would be appreciated very much Stephen Bentley -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Hlep! GCC Link Error!
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Hong Yu wrote: Anybody please tell me how to make a multi_segment appl? Since my appl will keep growing. http://prc-tools.sourceforge.net/doc/prc-tools_3.html --- Brian Smith // avalon73 at arthurian dot nu // http://www.arthurian.nu/ Software Developer // Gamer // Webmaster // System Administrator Echelon Teasers: NSA CIA FBI Mossad MI5 Cocaine Cuba Revolution Espionage -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: substring
Parse the string yourself.
Here's a simple algorithm that could do it:
i=0
j=0
loop until strSource[i] = NULL
{
if strSource[i] = ','
{
j++
}
else
{
strStr[j][i] = strSource[i]
strStr[j][i+1] = NULL
}
i++
}
Make sure your target strings have adequate memory allocated to them,
otherwise the whole routine could blow up.
I'd also suggest getting a book that has some entry level C/C++ algorithms
in it. I don't have one in mind at the moment but there are several decent
ones out there I've used over the years.
- Original Message -
From: prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:56 PM
Subject: substring
actually this is the function save the list items in one record with ,
seperator.
forexample : the list items are 3.and save as str1,str2,str3 as a one
record.
now i want to retrive these record and set to list items.
like str1
str2
str3.
i retriev these record(str1,str2,str3) from database but i unable to
seperate these strings and set to list items.
i use StrStr (CharPtr str,,) function for sbstring. but this is not
usefull.
any one have idea please tell me.
thanks.
laxma.
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POSE 3.4
For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). There're a hole bunch of updates, mostly bugfixes from my quick scan of the docs. However there is one big addition - memory leak detection. I've just run this on our app that I know to be full of them - and it's great - details the chunk address, where it was allocated (including a stack trace) and the actual contents of the chunk! This is just fantastic - well done to Keith and co who do the emulator - this is really useful! Cheers Russell -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Closing open databases
Is there a way I can close a database that has been opened by a different application, I.E. one I don' t have an active handle to? Thanks Ralph Krausse -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Fonts
I am a total newbee to Palm development so please forgive my cluelessness. I do not know what the Digest is - I'm guessing something like Google? How do I access it? I took your advice and downloaded the xFont application. I think it's going to work perfectly. Thank you. Now, my last question (hopefully). Now that I've created a larger font, how do I get it into my application? From what I've read, I gather that I have to import it into my source as a resource. How do I do this? I understand that this process may require a lengthy explanation and if you don't want to get into it here, that's cool. I'm planning on making a trip to my local Barnes and Noble this weekend anyway to pick up a book or two on Palm development. TIA for everything! Curt Allen Laurence Mee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:76713@palm-dev-forum... I believe that this has been asked before (29th Nov 01 - 30th Nov 01 Subject: Large Custom Fonts) so should be on the Digest. Essentially you can use XFont to create large fonts (http://www.members.tripod.com/pericak/font_description.htm) and pilRC (http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=palmcat=pilrcsubcat=manual) to include it in the resources. Laurence Mee. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Curt Allen Sent: 14 February 2002 22:43 To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Fonts I'm using a Palm m100 to develop a demonstrational user interface for an embedded handheld project and I need larger font sizes than what are available using the text() call in graphics mode. I'll need about 5 different sizes ranging from 6x8 to 48x56 pixels. What can I do? Is there anything available that I can get my hands on? Am I stuck bit-mapping each letter? Thank you Curt Allen -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Russell K Bulmer wrote: There're a hole bunch of updates, mostly bugfixes from my quick scan of the docs. However there is one big addition - memory leak detection. I've just run this on our app that I know to be full of them - and it's great - details the chunk address, where it was allocated (including a stack trace) and the actual contents of the chunk! This is just fantastic - well done to Keith and co who do the emulator - this is really useful! yes, very useful :) // az [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ardiri.com/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Digest location. Was - RE: Fonts
Try http://www.escribe.com/computing/pcpqa That has a searchable archive that is most helpful. Cheers, -DGA -Original Message- From: Curt Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:09 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: Fonts I am a total newbee to Palm development so please forgive my cluelessness. I do not know what the Digest is - I'm guessing something like Google? How do I access it? I took your advice and downloaded the xFont application. I think it's going to work perfectly. Thank you. Now, my last question (hopefully). Now that I've created a larger font, how do I get it into my application? From what I've read, I gather that I have to import it into my source as a resource. How do I do this? I understand that this process may require a lengthy explanation and if you don't want to get into it here, that's cool. I'm planning on making a trip to my local Barnes and Noble this weekend anyway to pick up a book or two on Palm development. TIA for everything! Curt Allen Laurence Mee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:76713@palm-dev-forum... I believe that this has been asked before (29th Nov 01 - 30th Nov 01 Subject: Large Custom Fonts) so should be on the Digest. Essentially you can use XFont to create large fonts (http://www.members.tripod.com/pericak/font_description.htm) and pilRC (http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=palmcat=pilrcsubcat=m anual) to include it in the resources. Laurence Mee. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Curt Allen Sent: 14 February 2002 22:43 To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Fonts I'm using a Palm m100 to develop a demonstrational user interface for an embedded handheld project and I need larger font sizes than what are available using the text() call in graphics mode. I'll need about 5 different sizes ranging from 6x8 to 48x56 pixels. What can I do? Is there anything available that I can get my hands on? Am I stuck bit-mapping each letter? Thank you Curt Allen -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Pose and netlib Has anyone go the error Connection timed out when trying to test an aplication on pose that uses to tcp/ip of the host computer to get to the internet... And if you have, did you fix it and if so...how??? thanx, I am desperate. bill -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Linker error Near data segment is bigger than 64k
Hi, I am developing Palm Application using latest version of POL. On some stage of development process I received Near data segment is bigger than 64k linker error. I know about segment structure of the Palm Applications and also I know that data segment should be less than 64k. Code of my Application is divided between 7 segments and I think that data segment does not have more than 64k information. This error occurs after I added a new pies of code to the Application. When I comment (remove) this new code (or some piece of old code) I do not receive above linker error. Also, I can define global variable with size ~20k and my Application is successfully linked. More over the full release version (all commented code is included) is successfully linked. I do not understand where the problem is. How can I resolve it? P.S. I have read all messages in this conference with the same subject but I have not found answer for my problem. Thanks, Lubomyr Humetsky. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Very useful indeed. I immediately tried it and it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? Thanks. Max 0.000: WARNING: 0.000: WARNING: Memory Leaks 0.000: WARNING: 0.000: WARNING: Begin Memory Leak Dump 0.000: WARNING: 0.000: Non-relocatable chunk leaked at 0x0003B83C, size = 32 0.000: Chunk allocated by: 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00051E52 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00050D7C 0.000: Unknown @ 0x000507C0 0.000: PrvSendEventToForm 0.000: FrmDispatchEvent 0.000: Unknown @ 0x000540BE 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00054198 0.000: Unknown @ 0x0004E092 0.000: Chunk contents: 0.000: 00 00 00 BF 60 01 00 00 00 00 00 03 B8 4C 01 00 ...¿`L.. 0.000: 00 01 00 BF 60 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 ...¿`... 0.000: 0.000: Non-relocatable chunk leaked at 0x0003B864, size = 2 0.000: Chunk allocated by: 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00051E3E 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00050D7C 0.000: Unknown @ 0x000507C0 0.000: PrvSendEventToForm 0.000: FrmDispatchEvent 0.000: Unknown @ 0x000540BE 0.000: Unknown @ 0x00054198 0.000: Unknown @ 0x0004E092 0.000: Chunk contents: 0.000: 01 01 .. 0.000: WARNING: 0.000: WARNING: End Memory Leak Dump 0.000: WARNING: = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? It means you should rebuild your app with debug symbols on, so POSE can show the actual function names in the call stack. -slj- -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Attn: PalmOS.com/dev webmaster (was Re: POSE 3.4)
The posted notice says The latest version of the Palm OS Emulator (POSE) is not available. I assume that not is intended to be now ;-) -- -Richard M. Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 186,000 mi/sec: not just a good idea, it's the LAW! Russell K Bulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:76783@palm-dev-forum... For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). There're a hole bunch of updates, mostly bugfixes from my quick scan of the docs. However there is one big addition - memory leak detection. I've just run this on our app that I know to be full of them - and it's great - details the chunk address, where it was allocated (including a stack trace) and the actual contents of the chunk! This is just fantastic - well done to Keith and co who do the emulator - this is really useful! Cheers Russell -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms
The main problem that I would see with satellite forms is the requirement for a big fat runtime on the device. -Original Message- From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 February 2002 16:34 To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms At the risk of blasphemy, I wanted to pose the question to hardcore Palm developers about Satellite Forms... I have developed a prototype application, and as I test it with POSE, I get many memory leaks (POSE 3.4 thankfully logs them to a file rather than pop them up one at a time)... The prototype ended up being 90% of what I want in the commercial app - the question is, do I dare release it as a Satellite Forms app, or should I rewrite in Native C/C++? Any comments from this group would be appreciated - I find it difficult to get accurate perspective (go figure) from the Sat Forms forums... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms
I've got a couple concerns with Sat Forms: 1. All the POSE errors it generates :) 2. I'm not convinced that it's that scalable. This really depends on your app. I've been involved with enterprise-scale projects where an initial mockup was developed in SatForms, and then of course the customer says can't we just have that? The problem is, the demo version never was populated with as much data as the actual production app would hold. When a large number of records are present on the device, performance degrades severely. So again, it really depends on the app--whether it's a commercial end-user app, or a custom enterprise app. Make sure you've tested your SatForms code with data that's representative of the actual production data. Remember that you can't do anything about bugs/problems in SatForms discovered by POSE, but you can do something about bugs in your C code. POSE may be telling you your app won't work on future versions of PalmOS, another thing to consider . . . My $.02 -DGA -Original Message- From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:34 AM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms At the risk of blasphemy, I wanted to pose the question to hardcore Palm developers about Satellite Forms... I have developed a prototype application, and as I test it with POSE, I get many memory leaks (POSE 3.4 thankfully logs them to a file rather than pop them up one at a time)... The prototype ended up being 90% of what I want in the commercial app - the question is, do I dare release it as a Satellite Forms app, or should I rewrite in Native C/C++? Any comments from this group would be appreciated - I find it difficult to get accurate perspective (go figure) from the Sat Forms forums... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Linker error Near data segment is bigger than 64k
I am developing Palm Application using latest version of POL. On some stage of development process I received Near data segment is bigger than 64k linker error. I know about segment structure of the Palm Applications and also I know that data segment should be less than 64k. Code of my Application is divided between 7 segments and I think that data segment does not have more than 64k information. The 64K data issue is completely unrelated to multi-segmenting. You are only allowed to have 32K of global/static data referenced from either side of the A4 register. Assuming your're using CodeWarrior, you can see how much space you're using by generating a link map from your last successful link (set this in the 68K Linker panel). Then look at your .tmp.MAP file and after all the code segment information, there is a line that tells you how much space you are takikng up above and below A5. Then, you can look at ways to decrease this. In the 68K Processor panel, check the box for PC-Relative Constant Data to move some of your constant data into the code segment. You might also benefit from using the new Expanded Mode in CW for Palm V8 (see http://www.metrowerks.com/pdf/Expanded_Mode.pdf for more details) since you're using C++. -hkmlt -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: My own table troubles
Alan, can you post or email me the example code? The pilrc file and the bit that is dealting with the table will do. It should really not be this hard :0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:07 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles If I make the table larger or move it, it obscures the buttons and/or title. As this implies, the buttons and title of the form get drawn. The buttons even work. I use the number of rows call to figure out how many rows I need to set the style and make usable, so when it comes back 0, these functions don't get called. Sorry that I have come up with another weird problem. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:30:15 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles Is the table visible and enabled (USABLE in rcp-ese)? Can you see it? Is the form actually drawn? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:15 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles The exact same thing happened when I specified the number of rows in the rcp file. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Well, boo hiss ... After submitting a bug report (twice!) via standard Palm methods (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/) about 3.3 POSE in combination with the 4.1 SDK Beta, and not receiving a response either time, I see that the new 3.4 POSE contains the same bug. That being MyAppName (x.x) just read from Memory Location (whatever...) which is in the itemsText field of the frmListObj starting at ... (etc.) This is AFTER I changed my source code to use LstGlueGetItemsText which was provided (thank you!) in the 4.1 SDK to provide a way to legally access the address I legally stored in frmP-itemsText with LstSetListChoices. Don't know why the LstGlueGetItemsText wasn't called LstGlueGetListChoices to be consistent with the function that stored the address, but that's a different issue. So, now I have another gripe to add to my list ... along with my outstanding gripes about no way to dynamically allocate scrollbars, and no way to dynamically add a frameless button. or to change the frame type to frameless after I dynamically add a framed ButtonCtl. This just keeps getting better and better. Sigh ... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: My own table troubles
I am about to leave for the weekend. I'll make up an example that reproduces the problem and send it when I get back. Thanks for your assistance. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:45:42 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles Alan, can you post or email me the example code? The pilrc file and the bit that is dealting with the table will do. It should really not be this hard :0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:07 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles If I make the table larger or move it, it obscures the buttons and/or title. As this implies, the buttons and title of the form get drawn. The buttons even work. I use the number of rows call to figure out how many rows I need to set the style and make usable, so when it comes back 0, these functions don't get called. Sorry that I have come up with another weird problem. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:30:15 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles Is the table visible and enabled (USABLE in rcp-ese)? Can you see it? Is the form actually drawn? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:15 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles The exact same thing happened when I specified the number of rows in the rcp file. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Pose and netlib Has anyone go the error Connection timed out when trying to test an aplication on pose that uses to tcp/ip of the host computer to get to the internet... And if you have, did you fix it and if so...how??? thanx, I am desperate. bill -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: datamgr.c, Line:8624, Records left busy in closed unprotected DB
Does unprotected DB mean anything special? My _guess_ is that it's referring to the mode you opened it in: read/write as opposed to read only. Regards, Steve Mann -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: My own table troubles
Sorry for sending this to the entire list. My mailer lied to me when it said where it was going. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:59:23 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles I am about to leave for the weekend. I'll make up an example that reproduces the problem and send it when I get back. Thanks for your assistance. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:45:42 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles Alan, can you post or email me the example code? The pilrc file and the bit that is dealting with the table will do. It should really not be this hard :0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:07 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles If I make the table larger or move it, it obscures the buttons and/or title. As this implies, the buttons and title of the form get drawn. The buttons even work. I use the number of rows call to figure out how many rows I need to set the style and make usable, so when it comes back 0, these functions don't get called. Sorry that I have come up with another weird problem. alan ---Original Message--- From: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:30:15 -0800 Subject: RE: My own table troubles Is the table visible and enabled (USABLE in rcp-ese)? Can you see it? Is the form actually drawn? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:15 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: RE: My own table troubles The exact same thing happened when I specified the number of rows in the rcp file. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Pose and netlib Has anyone go the error Connection timed out when trying to test an aplication on pose that uses to tcp/ip of the host computer to get to the internet... And if you have, did you fix it and if so...how??? thanx, I am desperate. bill -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
re: This blurb from the _news.txt file ... * Allow read access to attr fields of Control, List, Bitmap, Label, and Scrollbar objects if the accessor function is not available -- FrmGlueGetObjectUsable accesses those fields. FrmGlueGetObjectUsable also accesses Gadget and Table objects, but Poser already allows read access to attr for those objects. [Catherine White] Does this mean that we WILL sooner or later be provided accessor routines for the attr fields? Or, does it mean that it's now safe (legal?) to access those attribute fields directly? If not, then this change might be dangerous in that it will mask the illegal accesses to internal areas. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
I'm not using DNS, I am using the IP addresses. I can surf the web, but when I try to use my own program, one that I wrote to connect to a telnet session it doesn't work. I found this error: (GDB) set confirm off(GDB) target pilot localhost:21localhost:21: Invalid argument. I don't know where it go localhost:21, I strictly use IP addresses, maybe this will give more clues, I hope. I am new to this, and as usual, I probably bit off more than I can chew right now, but usually I learn better that way, so bear with me and thanx for the help. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Pose and netlib Has anyone go the error Connection timed out when trying to test an aplication on pose that uses to tcp/ip of the host computer to get to the internet... And if you have, did you fix it and if so...how??? thanx, I am desperate. bill -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see
converging POSEs
Do you think that in the future the development of POSE can be merged with all the hardware producers? I currently have to have 3 different POSEs to test my apps on Sony, Handspring, and Palm. trv -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms
I've never been partial to SF but as long as the pricing reflects the quality, I say release it. There is always version 2.0 to make it better. - Original Message - From: Geoff Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: Please - don't kick me out of the group if I say - Satellite Forms At the risk of blasphemy, I wanted to pose the question to hardcore Palm developers about Satellite Forms... I have developed a prototype application, and as I test it with POSE, I get many memory leaks (POSE 3.4 thankfully logs them to a file rather than pop them up one at a time)... The prototype ended up being 90% of what I want in the commercial app - the question is, do I dare release it as a Satellite Forms app, or should I rewrite in Native C/C++? Any comments from this group would be appreciated - I find it difficult to get accurate perspective (go figure) from the Sat Forms forums... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: datamgr.c, Line:8624, Records left busy in closed unprotectedDB
At 4:09 AM -0800 2002/02/15, Max Bian wrote: Does unprotected DB mean anything special? It means DmDatabaseProtect was not called on the database; protected databases are handled a little differently by the data manager. The error however is telling you that a record was still busy when the database was closed -- e.g. you did a DmGetRecord without a corresponding DmReleaseRecord. The unprotected part of the error probably isn't the critical factor to look into here... but it could be related. Regards, Jim Schram PalmSource Inc. Partner Engineering -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: datamgr.c, Line:8624, Records left busy in closed unprotected DB
Does unprotected DB mean anything special? To expand on Jim's answer... Protecting a database prevents it from being deleted and allows you to close it without unlocking or releasing all the records or resources. Shared libraries are protected when they're loaded. Hacks should be too. Most normal applications don't use this feature of the OS. -- Danny @ PalmSource -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Problems with Popup triggers
Hey Everyone, I've run into this problem while trying to implement popup triggers in where trigger does not pop the assigned list. It just indicates a penDown (highlights black), then nothing. This is a simple, two form application. I have popup triggers on the first form and they work fine. I've run into this problem before, and now am at my wit's end. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this? Check list of what i've verified: 1) Create two popup triggers 2) Create two lists 3) Assigned the list IDs of the lists to the popup triggers. 4) Made the lists' usable attribute false. (unchecked it) Bada-bing, that should work right? After all, i did the same for the popup triggers on the main form and they work perfectly. Is there something i'm missing from my code, from constructor, etc? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Misc Info that might help: a) To switch back forms, i'm simply calling FrmGotoForm() b) I'm not really initializing a form on the frmOpenEvent -- i just call FrmDrawForm(). c) I'm using the palm OS 4.0 color ROM. -- M -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Closing open databases
Is there a way I can close a database that has been opened by a different application, I.E. one I don' t have an active handle to? I don't think you should be closing other apps' databases, but you can get a list of all the open databases using DmNextOpenDatabase. Some of these will be system databases that should never be closed. -- Danny @ PalmSource -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:00, you wrote: For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). I was somewhat perturbed to find there was no Linux version. I hope that it's just lagging behind and Palm haven't decided not to support Linux any longer. Since I'm a Linux only shop here, that would mean I'd have to buy a new machine just to be able to use the emulator, which would be sad. I'd have to get the Occupational Health and Safety people to erect a fence round it, so noone hurts themself :-). Seriously, though, I read something about a hands-up that was held at PalmSource where it appeared that only a very small percentage of people (less than 10%, if memory servers) use Linux for their PalmOS development, so I would understand if Palm decided not to put as much effort into the emulator for that platform. I don't think I'd be overly fussed, so long as I can still build the app under Linux. Harry O. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 06:16:55AM +1100, Harry Ohlsen wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:00, you wrote: For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). I was somewhat perturbed to find there was no Linux version. I hope that it's just lagging behind and Palm haven't decided not to support Linux any longer. Unix sources are available for download. Since I'm a Linux only shop here, that would mean I'd have to buy a new machine just to be able to use the emulator, which would be sad. I'd have to get the Occupational Health and Safety people to erect a fence round it, so noone hurts themself :-). Seriously, though, I read something about a hands-up that was held at PalmSource where it appeared that only a very small percentage of people (less than 10%, if memory servers) use Linux for their PalmOS development, so I would understand if Palm decided not to put as much effort into the emulator for that platform. I don't think I'd be overly fussed, so long as I can still build the app under Linux. Quality and quantity don't always go hand in hand ;-) Cheers, Marco -- Marco Pantaleoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Padova, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED] elastiC language developer http://www.elasticworld.org -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Huh? Isn't there a UNIX source code available? I am not sure why Palm choose not to release the pre-compiled (and maybe statically linked) binaries, but you can compile it yourself. It usually takes a very long time to compile. It seems taking longer than compiling a Linux kernel. Max --- Harry Ohlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:00, you wrote: For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). I was somewhat perturbed to find there was no Linux version. I hope that it's just lagging behind and Palm haven't decided not to support Linux any longer. Since I'm a Linux only shop here, that would mean I'd have to buy a new machine just to be able to use the emulator, which would be sad. I'd have to get the Occupational Health and Safety people to erect a fence round it, so noone hurts themself :-). Seriously, though, I read something about a hands-up that was held at PalmSource where it appeared that only a very small percentage of people (less than 10%, if memory servers) use Linux for their PalmOS development, so I would understand if Palm decided not to put as much effort into the emulator for that platform. I don't think I'd be overly fussed, so long as I can still build the app under Linux. Harry O. = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Problems with Popup triggers
What are you returning for the ctlSelectEvent generated from the tap on the trigger? Max --- Michael Zapeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, I've run into this problem while trying to implement popup triggers in where trigger does not pop the assigned list. It just indicates a penDown (highlights black), then nothing. This is a simple, two form application. I have popup triggers on the first form and they work fine. I've run into this problem before, and now am at my wit's end. Any suggestions as to what could be causing this? Check list of what i've verified: 1) Create two popup triggers 2) Create two lists 3) Assigned the list IDs of the lists to the popup triggers. 4) Made the lists' usable attribute false. (unchecked it) Bada-bing, that should work right? After all, i did the same for the popup triggers on the main form and they work perfectly. Is there something i'm missing from my code, from constructor, etc? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Misc Info that might help: a) To switch back forms, i'm simply calling FrmGotoForm() b) I'm not really initializing a form on the frmOpenEvent -- i just call FrmDrawForm(). c) I'm using the palm OS 4.0 color ROM. -- M = = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 06:16:55AM +1100, Harry Ohlsen wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:00, you wrote: For those who haven't noticed yet POSE 3.4 (for MAC and Windoze) has been posted on the PalmOS dev site (http://www.palmos.com/dev). I was somewhat perturbed to find there was no Linux version. I hope that it's just lagging behind and Palm haven't decided not to support Linux any longer. I just pulled down the 3.4 Unix sources. They are there. The link on the line with the two asteriks appears to point to the 3.3 sources still. Scroll further down the page (http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/emulator/) and you should find a working link to the 3.4 Unix sources. I'm building it now. According to the _News.txt file there are all sorts of juicy things for us unix users, like a Gremlins control dialog and command line parameters!!! Thanks Keith! scott -- scott[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Tap causes reset
... called a function in a shared library using a reference number of 25974. This reference number does not correspond to any currently installed library and is invalid. Not much to go on here. Perhaps your penDownEvent is getting converted into a keyDownEvent with the libEvtHookKeyMask set in the modifier field. I don't know how this could happen, but this could produce the result you're seeing. It'd use the keyCode field of the keyDownEvent as the library reference number. How the keyCode would get set to such a large number is another question... Some ideas for debugging this: - Show us the code you're using to catch the penDownEvent and switch forms. - Get a stack crawl when the error occurs. - Step through the processing of the penDownEvent in the Graffiti area to see where it goes wrong. -- Danny @ PalmSource -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Sygwin SDK
I have to start Palm programming with the PRC-Tools, and I have downloaded and installed: (1) Cygwin b20.1, (2) PRC-Tools 2.0 , (3) PilRC for Win32, (4) Palm OS SDK 4.0, (5) Palm OS Emulator. Now I'm in process of application for the Developer Program, and I have a couple of questions. 1. Is there documentation for the Cygwin, and how to use the utility? Do I need this at all? I tried to change a link using the Sygwin as recomended (http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/gcc/install-win.html): C:\PalmDev rm sdk ln -s sdk-3.5 sdk All those commands failed within the Sygwin bash shell. 2. Does PRC-Tools 2.0 work with SDK 4.0? (SDK 3.5 could be the only SDK supported with this version of PRC-Tools) Please help. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
Bill, That looks like a port number. Telnet defaults to 23, not 21. 25 is email SMTP. 21 sounds familiar, but ... What is your app trying to do over the internet? Can you test it as an intranet, so you can have the server at the same location as you. Maybe you could trace on the server side to see what is or is not connecting. PS - I am assuming you are familiar with TCP/IP and that it requires an address like 192.168.0.2 and a port, like 80. Both the sender and receiver of a packet must have an address and port. Senders usually pick an arbitrary port number, receivers almost always work on a specific port, like 80 is for HTTP requests. If you are not familiar with this concept, stop programming and do some TCP/IP reading. There are many tutorials posted on the web (FREE Education). --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm not using DNS, I am using the IP addresses. I can surf the web, but when I try to use my own program, one that I wrote to connect to a telnet session it doesn't work. I found this error: (GDB) set confirm off(GDB) target pilot localhost:21localhost:21: Invalid argument. I don't know where it go localhost:21, I strictly use IP addresses, maybe this will give more clues, I hope. I am new to this, and as usual, I probably bit off more than I can chew right now, but usually I learn better that way, so bear with me and thanx for the help. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software
Return value of DmFindResource.
Hi, What is the return value of DmFindResource if a given resource cannot be found?In the Reference guide it says: Returns index of resource in resource database, or -1 if not found. Well - the return type of DmFindResource is UInt16 :-) Should I check against 0x? Kind regards, Brian -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Sygwin SDK
1. Can I use MS DOS Window instead of Sygwin? What could be an issue? 2. What does the command ln -s sdk-3.5 sdk do? Where does it write the new SDK name? - Original Message - From: scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Sygwin SDK 1. Is there documentation for the Cygwin, and how to use the utility? Do I need this at all? I tried to change a link using the Sygwin as recomended (http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/gcc/install-win.html): C:\PalmDev This line should probably be cd C:/PalmDev since the goal is to _c_hange _d_irectory to c:\palmdev -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
The program will log on to a telnet server and an/or ftp server when I run it on a palm using a minstrel modem,that part is done...but when run the program on Pose I can't get POSE to recognize a connection, it always times out. I run an internet server and 2 Linux cluster servers, I deal with Telnet all the time so I am familiar (though not perfectly) with tcp/ip stuff. The program does log in ok when I run it on the palm directly, and I have done a tcpdump to see the comunication from the palm, but when I run it on the emulator it never gets to that point. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Bill, That looks like a port number. Telnet defaults to 23, not 21. 25 is email SMTP. 21 sounds familiar, but ... What is your app trying to do over the internet? Can you test it as an intranet, so you can have the server at the same location as you. Maybe you could trace on the server side to see what is or is not connecting. PS - I am assuming you are familiar with TCP/IP and that it requires an address like 192.168.0.2 and a port, like 80. Both the sender and receiver of a packet must have an address and port. Senders usually pick an arbitrary port number, receivers almost always work on a specific port, like 80 is for HTTP requests. If you are not familiar with this concept, stop programming and do some TCP/IP reading. There are many tutorials posted on the web (FREE Education). --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm not using DNS, I am using the IP addresses. I can surf the web, but when I try to use my own program, one that I wrote to connect to a telnet session it doesn't work. I found this error: (GDB) set confirm off(GDB) target pilot localhost:21localhost:21: Invalid argument. I don't know where it go localhost:21, I strictly use IP addresses, maybe this will give more clues, I hope. I am new to this, and as usual, I probably bit off more than I can chew right now, but usually I learn better that way, so bear with me and thanx for the help. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From:
Re: Pose and netlib
From what I understand, POSE using the host TCP stack has a hardwired 2 second timeout (i.e. it ignores the timeout you specify in the NetLib call). I'm using POSE 3.2 I don't know how to change this value. But if you want a longer timeout, you could detect that you are running on POSE and repeatedly call the NetLib function until you have a large enough timeout. Matt At 10:14 AM 15/2/2002 -0800, you wrote: I'm not using DNS, I am using the IP addresses. I can surf the web, but when I try to use my own program, one that I wrote to connect to a telnet session it doesn't work. I found this error: (GDB) set confirm off(GDB) target pilot localhost:21localhost:21: Invalid argument. I don't know where it go localhost:21, I strictly use IP addresses, maybe this will give more clues, I hope. I am new to this, and as usual, I probably bit off more than I can chew right now, but usually I learn better that way, so bear with me and thanx for the help. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet. And it's worked too. We use CDPD modems, and when you are out of a service area or in a steel building, you get them, too. Sometimes your ISP goes down, servers even go down. You have to program for them. But I assume that you have some other problem. Can you give us some details please. Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Pose and netlib Has anyone go the error Connection timed out when trying to test an aplication on pose that uses to tcp/ip of the host computer to get to the internet... And if you have, did you fix it and if so...how??? thanx, I am desperate. bill -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For
Re: Return value of DmFindResource.
At 9:36 PM -0100 2002/02/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the return value of DmFindResource if a given resource cannot be found?In the Reference guide it says: Returns index of resource in resource database, or -1 if not found. Well - the return type of DmFindResource is UInt16 :-) Should I check against 0x? Yes. Just FYI for anyone who's confused... 0x = -1 for 16-bit integers, and 0x = -1 for 32-bit integers. The bit pattern is identical, so this is really about interpretation. The documentation is clearly misleading since the data type is unsigned, but its heart is in the right place. ;o) In any case, you might want to brush up on twos compliment integer representations if you're still confused. Regards, Jim Schram PalmSource Inc. Partner Engineering -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Return value of DmFindResource.
Hi Jim, Thanks - I know the two's complement :-) I just got confused by the mismatch of value and return type ... I looked at the prototype in the include files - it also said UInt16 ... Then I got scared had to have somebody put my mind at ease ... Thanks. Kind regards, Brian On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:58:04 -0800, Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 9:36 PM -0100 2002/02/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the return value of DmFindResource if a given resource cannot be found? In the Reference guide it says: Returns index of resource in resource database, or -1 if not found. Well - the return type of DmFindResource is UInt16 :-) Should I check against 0x? Yes. Just FYI for anyone who's confused... 0x = -1 for 16-bit integers, and 0x = -1 for 32-bit integers. The bit pattern is identical, so this is really about interpretation. The documentation is clearly misleading since the data type is unsigned, but its heart is in the right place. ;o) In any case, you might want to brush up on twos compliment integer representations if you're still confused. Regards, Jim Schram PalmSource Inc. Partner Engineering -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Unix sources are available for download. OK, I must be going blind. I'll put my glasses on and have another look. Thanks. Quality and quantity don't always go hand in hand ;-) Ain't that the truth?! Problem is, my boss keeps telling me the money he pays me is really, really high quality ;-). Harry O. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Opening resDB with bundle bit on causes system fatal errors ?
A few weeks ago Mark A. Peters wrote: ... I ... discovered that if you set the bundle bit on a resource database, the system blows up every time it tries to access that database for any reason. This happens, for example, when bringing up the system Delete dialog, and one scrolls to the page on which the app with the bundled resource database appears. ... I just tried to reproduce this using the following steps: - Make a copy of Pimlico's dbScan.prc on my Mac. - Edit the copy in BrainHex to have a different database name and type, and to set the bundle bit. - Boot up Poser 3.4 emulating an m505 with a 4.0 debug ROM. - Install the modified prc. - Bring up the Delete dialog and delete the database. No crash occurred. - Install the modified prc again, as well as the original prc. - Run the app quit. No problem here. (Not surprising since it doesn't open the bundled database.) - Bring up the Delete dialog and delete the app associated database. No crash occurred. Send me your prc off-line and I'll see if I can figure out why we're seeing different results. -- Danny @ PalmSource -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
The thing that confused me was that link hasn't been updated; it still points to the source for 3.3. However, as you say, there is a link to 3.4 further down. My faith is restored :-). -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Sygwin SDK
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:39:56PM +0300, Alexandre Kazantsev wrote: 1. Can I use MS DOS Window instead of Sygwin? What could be an issue? Possibly, but it would be more trouble than it is worth, in my opinion. The first issue is that the symlink you create below wouldn't show up a dos window. You would probably have other issues dealing with makefiles and such as they often take advantage of environment variables and shell features (like file globbing) provided by bash. 2. What does the command ln -s sdk-3.5 sdk do? Where does it write the new SDK name? ln -s sdk-3.5 sdk creates a symbolic link. (ln creates links, -s means make that link symbolic.) That means that inside the bash shell, the contents of directory sdk are the exact same as sdk-3.5 because sdk is just another name for sdk-3.5. This makes it very easy to switch back and forth between different sdk's. The prc-tools simply look in the sdk directory. You could create the sdk link to sdk-4.0, sdk-3.0, or whereever else you happen to have an sdk installed. As to where bash stores the symbolic link, it seems like the bash shell creates a text file with the system attribute set. The contents of the file indicate which directory the symbolic link points too. Once you create the symbolic link under bash, you can see the file in a dos window by using the 'attrib' command, and view it with 'type' like this: C:\PalmDevattrib A S SDK C:\palmdev\sdk C:\PalmDevtype sdk !symlinksdk-3.5/ scott -- scott[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
ANNOUNCEMENT: Palm Desktop Development SDK
Developers, At PalmSource 2002 we announced the availability of the Palm Desktop SDK. The Palm Desktop SDK allows developers to expands the functionality of the Palm Desktop by creating Addins and Extensions. Developers can now integrate desktop applications directly into the Palm Desktop. Resources available at: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/desktop/ Palm Desktop SDK: Addin/Extension development in Visual C++ and Visual Basic Palm Desktop 4.1 Beta: Palm Desktop 4.1 beta release for use with the SDK PalmSource presentation: The Next Generation Desktop: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/desktop/101-desktop_overview.zip Overview of Palm Desktop 4.1 and its extensibility options PalmSource presentation: APIs for the Next Generation Desktop: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/desktop/102-desktop_details.zip APIs and details of creating Addins and Extensions for Palm Desktop 4.1 Developers who are interested in Palm Desktop development are encouraged to join the Windows Desktop Forum. Please address all development questions concerning the Palm Desktop SDK to the Windows Desktop Forum. http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: OS 5 == High Development Cost?
At 12:25 PM +0100 2/15/02, Juan de Dios Santander Vela wrote: The PowerPC had, from the beginning, means to switch data endianness, and from the G3, Motorola removed the severe penalty the little-endian mode imposed on processing speed ---that's why Virtual PC 4 and 5 only run on G3 or better processors--. If you set Mac OS X as 'the Mac development platform', you have the guarantee of a PowerPC G3 or better. Anyway, you can impose a G3 as the minimum for the Mac version of the PalmSimulator, just as you removed 68k support from POSE, and have it run also on top of Mac OS 9, using maybe even the same libraries you're using... I don't know when these opcodes were added, but PowerPC does have nice read/write byteswapped data opcodes. I'm using them in the ARM version of Poser to good benefit. The problem is with using those opcodes in the Simulator. The Simulator is just the Palm OS source code compiled natively on a desktop platform. It accesses aggregate data via structs just like any other C application. There is no way in C to say the fields in this struct are stored in Little Endian format, so generate the opcodes that will read and write them as such. So there's no easy way to get the Simulator to handle data in Little Endian format. -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: converging POSEs
At 10:37 AM -0800 2/15/02, Trevor Menagh wrote: Do you think that in the future the development of POSE can be merged with all the hardware producers? I currently have to have 3 different POSEs to test my apps on Sony, Handspring, and Palm. By you do you mean me? I can only merge different Posers together if I have the source code. I don't have any modifications from Sony or Handspring, so there's nothing I can do. After the PalmSource Developer's conference last week, I *did* talk with some Sony engineers who said they'd send me their Poser modifications. I don't have those yet, but hopefully will soon. But they won't show up in Palm's version of Poser until 4.0, which won't be for many months. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
At 8:33 AM +1100 2/16/02, Harry Ohlsen wrote: The thing that confused me was that link hasn't been updated; it still points to the source for 3.3. However, as you say, there is a link to 3.4 further down. My faith is restored :-). I've notified the Web master about this mistake. -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
At 3:56 PM -0500 2/15/02, Matt Hebley wrote: From what I understand, POSE using the host TCP stack has a hardwired 2 second timeout (i.e. it ignores the timeout you specify in the NetLib call). From where do you understand this? Poser does not ignore the timeout values and instead substitute a 2 second timeout. There's nothing in the documentation, release notes, or source code that says anything about 2 second timeouts, so I'm keen to learn where you heard this. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
wireless modem
Any GSM/GPRS or CDMA wireless modem currently available for Palm? - Stella -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
I'm not familiar with LstGlueGetListChoices, and never saw your reports sent to the address you gave below. Perhaps they were sent to the SDK people. The same guy who tests Poser also tests the glue library. I'm forwarding him your report to find out why this was missed. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer At 9:54 AM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: Well, boo hiss ... After submitting a bug report (twice!) via standard Palm methods (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/) about 3.3 POSE in combination with the 4.1 SDK Beta, and not receiving a response either time, I see that the new 3.4 POSE contains the same bug. That being MyAppName (x.x) just read from Memory Location (whatever...) which is in the itemsText field of the frmListObj starting at ... (etc.) This is AFTER I changed my source code to use LstGlueGetItemsText which was provided (thank you!) in the 4.1 SDK to provide a way to legally access the address I legally stored in frmP-itemsText with LstSetListChoices. Don't know why the LstGlueGetItemsText wasn't called LstGlueGetListChoices to be consistent with the function that stored the address, but that's a different issue. So, now I have another gripe to add to my list ... along with my outstanding gripes about no way to dynamically allocate scrollbars, and no way to dynamically add a frameless button. or to change the frame type to frameless after I dynamically add a framed ButtonCtl. This just keeps getting better and better. Sigh ... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
At 11:14 AM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: re: This blurb from the _news.txt file ... * Allow read access to attr fields of Control, List, Bitmap, Label, and Scrollbar objects if the accessor function is not available -- FrmGlueGetObjectUsable accesses those fields. FrmGlueGetObjectUsable also accesses Gadget and Table objects, but Poser already allows read access to attr for those objects. [Catherine White] Does this mean that we WILL sooner or later be provided accessor routines for the attr fields? Or, does it mean that it's now safe (legal?) to access those attribute fields directly? If not, then this change might be dangerous in that it will mask the illegal accesses to internal areas. Direct access is allowed only so that FrmGlueGetObjectUsable can access those functions (or any similar wrapper code of your own). You application should not access those fields directly, but instead should go through the glue code and let it do it for you. The accessor function function alluded to in the note is actually a magic function available under PalmSim. The glue code knows about it and calls it when it's available. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: converging POSEs
Oh, that's cool. It's good to hear that those guys are at least talking with you about it. :) trv -- Trevor Menagh, Software Engineer iambic, Inc. (www.iambic.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (408) 367-1600 x20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Rollin Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:31 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: converging POSEs At 10:37 AM -0800 2/15/02, Trevor Menagh wrote: Do you think that in the future the development of POSE can be merged with all the hardware producers? I currently have to have 3 different POSEs to test my apps on Sony, Handspring, and Palm. By you do you mean me? I can only merge different Posers together if I have the source code. I don't have any modifications from Sony or Handspring, so there's nothing I can do. After the PalmSource Developer's conference last week, I *did* talk with some Sony engineers who said they'd send me their Poser modifications. I don't have those yet, but hopefully will soon. But they won't show up in Palm's version of Poser until 4.0, which won't be for many months. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: OS 5 == High Development Cost?
I don't know when these opcodes were added, but PowerPC does have nice read/write byteswapped data opcodes. I think Juan is referring to the LE (little endian) bit in the MSR (machine state register). See: http://www.byte.com/art/9509/sec12/art1.htm and: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/DeviceManagers/pci_srvcs/pci_ca rds_drivers/PCI_BOOK.24e.html - Danny -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: OS 5 == High Development Cost?
At 3:07 PM -0800 2/15/02, Danny Epstein wrote: I don't know when these opcodes were added, but PowerPC does have nice read/write byteswapped data opcodes. I think Juan is referring to the LE (little endian) bit in the MSR (machine state register). See: http://www.byte.com/art/9509/sec12/art1.htm and: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/DeviceManagers/pci_srvcs/pci_ca rds_drivers/PCI_BOOK.24e.html Wouldn't that force the entire computer to run in Little Endian mode? Would the OS be able to function in that state? -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: converging POSEs
Isn't true according to the GPL, they have to supply the source code at least upon request? Max --- Keith Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:37 AM -0800 2/15/02, Trevor Menagh wrote: Do you think that in the future the development of POSE can be merged with all the hardware producers? I currently have to have 3 different POSEs to test my apps on Sony, Handspring, and Palm. By you do you mean me? I can only merge different Posers together if I have the source code. I don't have any modifications from Sony or Handspring, so there's nothing I can do. After the PalmSource Developer's conference last week, I *did* talk with some Sony engineers who said they'd send me their Poser modifications. I don't have those yet, but hopefully will soon. But they won't show up in Palm's version of Poser until 4.0, which won't be for many months. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: converging POSEs
Only to people who have the binary, I think. I'm certainly no expert on the subject. But the whole point of the GPL is to allow people using a program to modify that program. There's nothing that says that the source is freely distributable. #include JohnMarshallCorrections.h But that aside, the big issue is that Sony's modifications are made against old versions of Poser, and the ones I saw were made in such a way to break support for all other devices. I had been trying to work with them to fix both problems. It now sounds like they're close to that, so there's a chance I can merge their modifications back into my source code base. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -Original Message- From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:26 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: converging POSEs Isn't true according to the GPL, they have to supply the source code at least upon request? Max --- Keith Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:37 AM -0800 2/15/02, Trevor Menagh wrote: Do you think that in the future the development of POSE can be merged with all the hardware producers? I currently have to have 3 different POSEs to test my apps on Sony, Handspring, and Palm. By you do you mean me? I can only merge different Posers together if I have the source code. I don't have any modifications from Sony or Handspring, so there's nothing I can do. After the PalmSource Developer's conference last week, I *did* talk with some Sony engineers who said they'd send me their Poser modifications. I don't have those yet, but hopefully will soon. But they won't show up in Palm's version of Poser until 4.0, which won't be for many months. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: Fonts - Repost of old sample code
I took your advice and downloaded the xFont application. I think it's
going
to work perfectly. Thank you. Now, my last question (hopefully). Now
that
I've created a larger font, how do I get it into my application?
Hi Curt,
I posted some font sample code a while ago. I've reposted it here. Hope
you find it somewhat useful.
Doug.
-- OLD POST STARTS HERE --
If you're using CodeWarrior, you can get the PilRC plugin here
http://www.calliopeinc.com/pilrcplugin.html. If you're using CodeWarrior
R8, the plugin has ALREADY been installed. Don't forget to add the .rcp
file type to CodeWarrior's File Mappings, and bind it to PilRC as a TEXT
type with no flags set.
Also, get xFONT here
http://www.members.tripod.com/pericak/font_description.htm. This will let
you create and/or rip Windows fonts. I used it in my example, below, to rip
the Comic font. xFONT will produce the .pfn file (see below). I've hacked
up all these files for brevity, but they *should* work.
You can read the docs for PilRC here
http://www.ardiri.com/index.php?redir=palmcat=pilrcsubcat=manual. Read
the section on the FONT definition. This is what I did for my Comic18.rcp
file, below.
Note that xFONT does NOT add the GLYPH -1 to the end of the .pfn file.
You REALLY NEED to do this! If you don't, some flavors of Palm OS will get
sick. I found this out the hard way! :)
I've included a small fragment of C code, below, that should demonstrate how
this all works. The code *should* work, if you incorporate it into a
project, but I didn't test it (grin). Note that the comicFont ID of 12801
is arbirary, and I chose that value myself. You can use almost any ID
value, as long as you don't create a resource conflict.
Note that you only need to bring the Comic18.r file into a CodeWarrior
project, and it will work. You only need the .rcp and .pfn files if you
want to create a new or different Comic18.r file (by editing or re-running
xFONT).
Enjoy,
Doug.
FILE test.c fragment--
#include font.h
#define comicFont12801
static void Test(void)
{
DoWinDrawCharsTest( stdFont );
DoWinDrawCharsTest( fntAppFontCustomBase );
}
static void DoWinDrawCharsTest( FontID fID )
{
FontPtr fontP;
MemHandle fontHandle;
FontID oldID;
if ( FntIsAppDefined(fID) )
{
fontHandle = GetFontResource( comicFont, fontP );
FntDefineFont( fID, fontP );
}
oldID = FntSetFont( fID );
// Use the selected font here.
WinDrawChars( Hello, 5, 0, 0 ); // Just an example only!
FntSetFont( oldID );
if ( FntIsAppDefined(fID) )
ReleaseFontResource( fontHandle );
}
}
static MemHandle GetFontResource(DmResType resource, FontPtr *ppFont)
{
MemHandle hFont;
FontPtr pFont;
if ( (hFont = DmGetResource(fontRscType,resource)) )
{
if ( !(pFont = (FontPtr)MemHandleLock(hFont)) )
{
DmReleaseResource( hFont );
hFont = NULL;
}
if ( ppFont )
*ppFont = pFont;
}
return hFont;
}
static void ReleaseFontResource(MemHandle hFont)
{
if ( hFont )
{
MemHandleUnlock( hFont );
DmReleaseResource( hFont );
}
}
End of file---
FILE Comic18.rcp--
FONT ID 12801 FONTID 128 Comic18.pfn
End of file---
FILE Comic18.pfn--
// Font: Comic Sans MS 18.pfn
// Date: 2001/11/28 17:41:36
// File automatically generated by xFONF
fontType 36864
maxWidth 30
kernMax 0
nDescent 0
fRectWidth 30
fRectHeight 24
ascent 19
descent 5
leading 0
GLYPH 32
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GLYPH 33
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GLYPH 34
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RE: OS 5 == High Development Cost?
Wouldn't that force the entire computer to run in Little Endian mode? I don't think so. The idea is that a single process can run in little endian while the rest of the processes, and the interrupt handlers, all run in big endian. I don't know how it would work in practice, but it sounds great in theory. :) - Danny -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: wireless modem
There is a VisorPhone from Handspring can be used for Handspring Visor. The phone is GSM. And also there is Sprint phone avaiable which is CDMA. Can check Handspring's website. -Original Message- From: Stella Lai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:37 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: wireless modem Any GSM/GPRS or CDMA wireless modem currently available for Palm? - Stella -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: wireless modem
Any GSM/GPRS or CDMA wireless modem currently available for Palm? The Kyocera 6035 is a Palm device with a CDMA phone and a QNC data modem (digital only). Regards, Steve Mann -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Thanks for the response. Re: Your application should not access those fields directly, but instead should go through the glue code and let it do it for you. Right. Understood and agree wholeheartedly. The bad news is that there ARENT any glue routines for accessing (view or update) the frame type for buttons. I'm trying to create a button without a frame. Actually, it's a series of user-defined buttons. The number of buttons is dynamically defined at runtime. We (as in, the user) want a smaller button than is provided by default, and don't want the vertical and horizontal outlines separating the buttons. We just want to draw a rectangle around the entire group of buttons. For the purpose of this particular UI, it looks a lot cleaner that way, and takes up less landscape. It works beautifully, but I have to set the frametype to noFrame, as in: ctlP-attr.frame = noButtonFrame;. Naturally, POSE slaps my wrist. There was a discussion several months ago about providing access to all the attributes via legal functions, but it doesn't appear to have made it beyond discussion stage. Regards, Terry -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
At 5:52 PM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: The bad news is that there ARENT any glue routines for accessing (view or update) the frame type for buttons. I'm trying to create a button without a frame. Actually, it's a series of user-defined buttons. The number of buttons is dynamically defined at runtime. We (as in, the user) want a smaller button than is provided by default, and don't want the vertical and horizontal outlines separating the buttons. We just want to draw a rectangle around the entire group of buttons. For the purpose of this particular UI, it looks a lot cleaner that way, and takes up less landscape. It works beautifully, but I have to set the frametype to noFrame, as in: ctlP-attr.frame = noButtonFrame;. Naturally, POSE slaps my wrist. There was a discussion several months ago about providing access to all the attributes via legal functions, but it doesn't appear to have made it beyond discussion stage. No... there was a discussion about providing access to all *supported* attributes. And setting frames wasn't on that list. (Not my decision ... I'm just the messenger here...) -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
At 9:54 AM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: After submitting a bug report (twice!) via standard Palm methods (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/) about 3.3 POSE in combination with the 4.1 SDK Beta, and not receiving a response either time, I see that the new 3.4 POSE contains the same bug. What's the 4.1 SDK Beta? I can't find it anywhere... -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
Based on your description, I'd suggest you switch from using buttons to using one or more gadgets. That way you can make it look and feel exactly as you like. It's a bit more work, but perhaps it's worth it? -- Peter Epstein -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Keith: There's a blurb in the FrmHideObject function that says: Prior to OS version 3.2, this function did not set the usable bit of the object attribute data to false. On an OS version prior to 3.2 you can work around this bug by directly setting this bit to false yourself. I cloned some code from FrmHideObject in OS 3.5 to handle the situation. And, it works great. Unfortunately, when I use POSE to test my app running on Palm OS 3.1, I get tons of error messages about accessing form storage. Since this particular application does a bunch of hide/show of objects in response to user input, the UIMgr data access debug has to be turned off. Otherwise, I spend all day hitting Continue. Any suggestions? Other than rewrite the user interface, of course. ( Just because the users pay the bills, they think they're always right. Harrumph !! ) Regards, Terry -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Return value of DmFindResource.
At 9:36 PM -0100 2/15/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the return value of DmFindResource if a given resource cannot be found? Why not look for a non-existent resource type and find out? Regards, Steve Mann -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
Poser knows about that problem, and should allow you access to attr fields on older OSes where FrmHideObject is broken. But without knowing exactly what error messages you're getting, I couldn't say if Poser or your application is wrong. -- Keith -Original Message- From: Terry Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:26 PM To: Palm Developer Forum Subject: Re: POSE 3.4 Keith: There's a blurb in the FrmHideObject function that says: Prior to OS version 3.2, this function did not set the usable bit of the object attribute data to false. On an OS version prior to 3.2 you can work around this bug by directly setting this bit to false yourself. I cloned some code from FrmHideObject in OS 3.5 to handle the situation. And, it works great. Unfortunately, when I use POSE to test my app running on Palm OS 3.1, I get tons of error messages about accessing form storage. Since this particular application does a bunch of hide/show of objects in response to user input, the UIMgr data access debug has to be turned off. Otherwise, I spend all day hitting Continue. Any suggestions? Other than rewrite the user interface, of course. ( Just because the users pay the bills, they think they're always right. Harrumph !! ) Regards, Terry -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
Hi. I just recompiled with the -g switch and the result is the same. Am I missing anything? Max --- Scott Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? It means you should rebuild your app with debug symbols on, so POSE can show the actual function names in the call stack. -slj- -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
Yes...you're missing the correct option. :-) Look up -mdebug-labels in your documentation. -- Keith At 6:19 PM -0800 2/15/02, Max Bian wrote: Hi. I just recompiled with the -g switch and the result is the same. Am I missing anything? Max --- Scott Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? It means you should rebuild your app with debug symbols on, so POSE can show the actual function names in the call stack. -slj- -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4 (glue access)
I just heard back from the tester. It seems that the test framework he was using turns off Poser's checking at times. It needs to do this for some of its test cases. Unfortunately, the error checking was not turned back on, with the result that there are actually five functions in the latest PalmOSGlue that will result in Poser displaying error messages. I can't say right now when Poser will be updated to allow those accesses. I've announced a Poser 3.5, but since I'm currently very focused on Poser 4.0, Poser 3.5 is defined only to add support for some new devices; no other changes are planned. I'll have to see if that can be changed in order to add support for those five glue functions. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer At 2:39 PM -0800 2/15/02, Keith Rollin wrote: I'm not familiar with LstGlueGetListChoices, and never saw your reports sent to the address you gave below. Perhaps they were sent to the SDK people. The same guy who tests Poser also tests the glue library. I'm forwarding him your report to find out why this was missed. -- Keith Rollin -- Palm OS Emulator engineer At 9:54 AM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: Well, boo hiss ... After submitting a bug report (twice!) via standard Palm methods (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/) about 3.3 POSE in combination with the 4.1 SDK Beta, and not receiving a response either time, I see that the new 3.4 POSE contains the same bug. That being MyAppName (x.x) just read from Memory Location (whatever...) which is in the itemsText field of the frmListObj starting at ... (etc.) This is AFTER I changed my source code to use LstGlueGetItemsText which was provided (thank you!) in the 4.1 SDK to provide a way to legally access the address I legally stored in frmP-itemsText with LstSetListChoices. Don't know why the LstGlueGetItemsText wasn't called LstGlueGetListChoices to be consistent with the function that stored the address, but that's a different issue. So, now I have another gripe to add to my list ... along with my outstanding gripes about no way to dynamically allocate scrollbars, and no way to dynamically add a frameless button. or to change the frame type to frameless after I dynamically add a framed ButtonCtl. This just keeps getting better and better. Sigh ... -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
Thanks. Now I really know what causes the memory leak! They are two small buffers I allocate with MemPtrNew, not the DmGetRecord without DmReleaseRecord the other people has suspected! I have been crazy try to locate these elsewhere thanks to the suggestive warning provided by POSE. :-) Great work! I don't see the option in the man page. Is there any other documentation better than that? Max --- Keith Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...you're missing the correct option. :-) Look up -mdebug-labels in your documentation. -- Keith At 6:19 PM -0800 2/15/02, Max Bian wrote: Hi. I just recompiled with the -g switch and the result is the same. Am I missing anything? Max --- Scott Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? It means you should rebuild your app with debug symbols on, so POSE can show the actual function names in the call stack. -slj- = http://www.weirdwww.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
RE: POSE 3.4
I found it in the info documentation. -- Keith At 7:02 PM -0800 2/15/02, Max Bian wrote: Thanks. Now I really know what causes the memory leak! They are two small buffers I allocate with MemPtrNew, not the DmGetRecord without DmReleaseRecord the other people has suspected! I have been crazy try to locate these elsewhere thanks to the suggestive warning provided by POSE. :-) Great work! I don't see the option in the man page. Is there any other documentation better than that? Max --- Keith Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...you're missing the correct option. :-) Look up -mdebug-labels in your documentation. -- Keith At 6:19 PM -0800 2/15/02, Max Bian wrote: Hi. I just recompiled with the -g switch and the result is the same. Am I missing anything? Max --- Scott Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Max Bian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] it detected two memory leaks. However I don't understand what they mean. The full log file is here: How do I make sense of stuff like Unknown @ 0x00051E52? It means you should rebuild your app with debug symbols on, so POSE can show the actual function names in the call stack. -slj- -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
file operation
Hello, I'd like to open/read a .PRC file and I know I can't use FileOpen function. Instead of it, I try DmOpenDatabase function (right choice?) but I have problem to read for example only 15 bytes - I guess I have problem with DmReadRecord function (expects index number of the record). Thanks for your all advices, Petr -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Keith Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:76881@palm-dev-forum... At 9:54 AM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: After submitting a bug report (twice!) via standard Palm methods (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/bugs/) about 3.3 POSE in combination with the 4.1 SDK Beta, and not receiving a response either time, I see that the new 3.4 POSE contains the same bug. What's the 4.1 SDK Beta? I can't find it anywhere... I think he means 4.0 SDK Update 1 DR 1 in the seeding area. DR2 was up for a while, but disappeared. This was supposed to go public last week, but it seems to be in the same web posting black hole that POSE 3.4 was in. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
Keith: Here's the error message I get .. MyApp just wrote to location (0xWhatever) which is in the attr field of the frmLabelObj .. blah blah blah It occurs in this case: case frmLabelObj: obj.label-attr.usable = false; break; I haven't found any accessors or Glue for Labels. Perhaps I'm missing something? Regards, Terry -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
I think he means 4.0 SDK Update 1 DR 1 in the seeding area. DR2 was up for a while, but disappeared. This was supposed to go public last week, but it seems to be in the same web posting black hole that POSE 3.4 was in. Right. My bad. The name of the download was sdk40upd1dr1.zip -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
At 8:57 PM -0700 2/15/02, Terry Dennis wrote: Keith: Here's the error message I get .. MyApp just wrote to location (0xWhatever) which is in the attr field of the frmLabelObj .. blah blah blah It occurs in this case: case frmLabelObj: obj.label-attr.usable = false; break; I haven't found any accessors or Glue for Labels. Perhaps I'm missing something? I think that what's really needed (from Palm) is a guide to when FrmHideObject works and when it doesn't. I believe that FrmHideObject works correctly in Palm OS 3.1 for label objects, which is why Poser is not letting you access the object directly yourself. -- Keith -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
re: switch from buttons to gadgets. Well, yeah. That's a way to do it. But, the existing code, which was written way back when Palm OS was a pup, is working very smoothly ... other than the fact that now I can't change the frame attribute without getting my wrist slapped. And, it might not work in future releases. I don't get paid to rewrite stuff. Just to write it so that it works reliably. If I had tons of free time, I'd put together an accessor routine for the frame attribute and any others that don't appear to be supported, AND I'd write all that's necessary to dynamically add a scrollbar. Unfortunately, I wouldn't get paid to do that by my client, and my family has become accustomed to eating. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: POSE 3.4
re: I believe that FrmHideObject works correctly in Palm OS 3.1 for label objects, which is why Poser is not letting you access the object directly yourself. Looks like you're right. I commented out that label attribute code, and the labels still hide and show at the appropriate times on 3.1. Thanks, Terry -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
problem with StrNCopy
hello, I am facing the problem with StrNCopy(); please see this one. CharPtr recText = thisisfromlaxma; CharPtr test = fromlaxma; CharPtr test1; StrNCopy (test1,recText,StrLen(recText)-StrLen(test)); actually the thisis string is copied in to test1 by using the abow function, but iam not getting, iam getting some error with emulator.iam using palmOS 3.1 version is any problem with version? any one have idea please tell me thanks. laxma. --- _ Get Your Free ScanMail and Email At http://www.bharatmail.com -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
Re: Pose and netlib
I have downloaded Pose 3.4. Right off the bat I noticed that when you set the TCP/IP host address in the prefs. it stayed what you set it too, in the old Pose, I noticed that it would always go to localhost: =whatever the default number was. I set it to my local machine with 21 as the port, and guess what, it worked... that is good, but it would have saved me months of frustration when I had to continualy install the software on the palm, plug the wireless modem in, test it and watch it crash, then try something else. Anyway, it is working now, I am not sure if the port made the differance or not, I had set the machine before to the ip address of the host but left the port as the default and it did not work then either. I will have to test it on my laptop where no upgrades have been made to POSE. Anyway, I appreciate the help and sugestions, I downloaded the NetSample stuff, they should be mucho help to me. Thanx again. bill - Original Message - From: Matt Hebley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib From what I understand, POSE using the host TCP stack has a hardwired 2 second timeout (i.e. it ignores the timeout you specify in the NetLib call). I'm using POSE 3.2 I don't know how to change this value. But if you want a longer timeout, you could detect that you are running on POSE and repeatedly call the NetLib function until you have a large enough timeout. Matt At 10:14 AM 15/2/2002 -0800, you wrote: I'm not using DNS, I am using the IP addresses. I can surf the web, but when I try to use my own program, one that I wrote to connect to a telnet session it doesn't work. I found this error: (GDB) set confirm off(GDB) target pilot localhost:21localhost:21: Invalid argument. I don't know where it go localhost:21, I strictly use IP addresses, maybe this will give more clues, I hope. I am new to this, and as usual, I probably bit off more than I can chew right now, but usually I learn better that way, so bear with me and thanx for the help. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib Hey Bill, I think SebNob is right. Since you don't seem to have a local web server you can access by IP, why not try this: on your desktop system which is on the same internet connection as POSE, go to a dos prompt and type PING YAHOO.COM It will respond with 216.115.109.6 as the IP address of YAHOO.COM. (But do this yourself anyway to make sure your connection is working right now and YAHOO.COM is working right now.) Surf on POSE to that IP instead of typing in the www.yahoo.com and see what happens. --- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software == End of Message == - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib One thing I noticed about the new pose is that you can actually change the localhost to a IP address:port, I was wonder, probably a stupid question, but what would the port number be?? I used my host computer IP address and the 6416 that they had in there, but it still won't work. thanx bill SebNob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:LYRIS-45725-70158-2002.02.15-07.26.59--wlalexander#[EMAIL PROTECTED] a lmos.com... Hi bill Maybe it's a problem related to the DNS. I think that POSE doesn't get the DNS from the host computer. If you have a web server on your LAN, try accessing it by it's IP. Personnally i connect my POSE with a win RAS and it work fine. bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just redirecting netlib to the TCP/IP stack of the host computer like I am supposed to. I have no prroblem with the program on the palm it is only when trying to use my cable connection, or even a modem connection, I always get a time out error, it never works. Pose does not seem to know how to get to the internet. thanx bill - Original Message - From: Palm Dev Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Palm Developer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Pose and netlib I'm sure someone, even me, might be able to give you some help, but you just haven't told us enough about your problem. Yes, I've had Connection Time Outs with POSEr and Network connection to Internet.
Re: file operation
I'd like to open/read a .PRC file You mean an imported .PRC file (i.e. a resource database). I try DmOpenDatabase function (right choice?) Yes. I guess I have problem with DmReadRecord function I am not surprised. It does not exist. Try DmGetResource instead. -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
