Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Bruce, On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 7:02:48 PM, you bellowed the following: I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Noise gates, when used properly, are really quite nice to have around, actually. However, putting them on top of a multi-layered thing at a post-production level, especially when there are a lot of dynamics involved, really is a bad idea. -- Good Thursday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds fantastic! I, presume, you do have the sound forge noise reduction plug in, so if you do, then you're going to find that it will do a magnificent job, especially if you can get it to sample the sound in such a way that it automatically picks the hiss, and/or the noise it is suppose to hear, and not what you don't want it to reduce like the voice. Since you've recorded in SF before and know how to reverse, what I do is make a region for each side of each cassette, and then have sf write those regions to specific *.wav files, and then use something else to make the mp3s at 32K or 32K with vbr so the sound is as good as it should be. I record at 44,100Hz and then change the sample rate to 22,050, (NOT RESAMPLE) just change the sample rate so the pitch halves, to resample would not change the pitch but you'd loose quality, and then apply noise reduction since the noise you wish for the NR to hear would be at the correct pitch as well. I hope some of this rambling helps. You can change the amount of noise reduction in the nr reduction plug-in, rather than use the preset of 0.250 seconds (a quarter second) (for fast computers) and then, since it's mode 1, you can then change the amount of supression in db. The sample noise checkbox should be checked, and when you first have it sample a noise, it auto unchecks itself since the nr plug-in has found the sample and made it's configuration and to that noise it's sampled, it's set. Change the db slider to, let's say, minus 40 DB and while listening to the preview you'll be amazed how wonderfully it will work. Then, save the setting, but make sure, before you save that setting, that the sample checkbox is then, checked, since if you use that setting in the future for another minus 40 db sample, you wish it to sample at least a quarter second of noise automatically, and by default. Many guys forget that checkbox and figure that since the slider is set for minus 40 db, it will get rid of the noise, forgetting that it needs to sample first some noise before it can apply it's magic to what you wish it to hear, not a voice or music. Plan to use a selected part of the noise when you make the nr plug-in hear noise, (the beginning of each side of a book is plenty of room for it) and you'll
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
No, in that case you don't have the NR plug-in, unfortunately, and it is expensive, again unfortunately, doesn't come with version 8. I, honestly don't know what that audio restoration does in SF, haven't used it at all. I got spoiled by that NR plug-in. Curtis Delzer At 05:43 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I even have the plug-in at all. I assumed it actually came with version 8. That's probably not accurate. I have something called audio restoration, but I suspect that isn't the same thing. Sorry to ask such incredibly elementary questions. Is it really called noise reduction plug-in? If so, I didn't get it, and now wish to goodness I had. What is the purpose of the audio restoration setting? I assume it is designed to take the static out of LP's and such? Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Well, you can hear it working, because below a certain point, everything just goes away, and if something happens which is suppose to be just audibile enough to hear it, the noise gate might clip it off, and the more you hear it working, the more you wonder what you might be missing. Early stereo TV stations used it and it made me wish to slowly show them how it truly sounds when sight isn't distracting their ears. I mean, that is cruel torture! Curtis Delzer At 11:35 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Hi Bruce. Okay, why is that? - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Graham Stoodley wrote: Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: a question
Hi, Well it's mostly some dvd recoding stuff and this premium is as far as I know really a full blown media center, where as the ultra concentrates on the actual burning. :-) Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Sun Sparkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:53 AM Subject: a question what is the defference between nero 7.0 ultra, and nero 7.0 premium? ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
converting text files to Audio
Open Book will convert files to MP3 but does it produce files in Daisy audio format? What other options are there for converting text files to audio? Peter S. At 11:53 PM 5/01/2006, you wrote: Hi, Well it's mostly some dvd recoding stuff and this premium is as far as I know really a full blown media center, where as the ultra concentrates on the actual burning. :-) Best regards Brian - Original Message - From: Sun Sparkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:53 AM Subject: a question what is the defference between nero 7.0 ultra, and nero 7.0 premium? ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: accessible mp3 tag program
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html Kevin Doucet said the following on Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:25:11PM -0600: Hi, Can any one recommend a program which works well with speech to automate creating mp3 tags? Thanks. - -- Put your trust in those who are worthy. Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDvSJdyw8Or2IRAjkdAJ9xohdk5Bn2ACua7od7Y4UEibsd9gCgjf7a +SXX0+7lEM/oDl6J/JZFsLI= =ZvNx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: another premier cd observation
Were you able to copy a cd or did you write tracks to cd by choosing files? At 12:53 AM 1/5/2006, you wrote: When I turned off test writing the audio CD was written. It was my first. Kurt ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: another premier cd observation
As a result of reading some of the posts on this list, I downloaded and installed the trial version of this program and began working with it to see, first, how it would handle identifying and saving discs. On the first two I tried, the database totally misidentified the disks with the wrong names, artists, genres, and track information. Also I couldn't get some of the hotkeys to work, such as close, eject, and a few more. This being a bad start I'm holding off actually writing any CDs, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate having them before I go any further. Al Gayzagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I am using version 6. You have to buy the noise reduction plug in. It's worth the money if you are doing very precise work. It used to cost $249. Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nolan Crabb Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:43 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I even have the plug-in at all. I assumed it actually came with version 8. That's probably not accurate. I have something called audio restoration, but I suspect that isn't the same thing. Sorry to ask such incredibly elementary questions. Is it really called noise reduction plug-in? If so, I didn't get it, and now wish to goodness I had. What is the purpose of the audio restoration setting? I assume it is designed to take the static out of LP's and such? Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Sound Cards
Hello all, I am using a Sound blaster-Livecard with Jaws 7.0. The sound card works well for my purposes. But now the question. When I attempt to go into the properties of the card, such as speakers, settings, etc, Jaws does not read the menus good at all. Probably alot of graphics. Is there a sound card that works well, that also allows a screen reader to get into the workings of the card? Thanks, Morey ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: accessible mp3 tag program
You can make mp3 tags in Windows xp, highlight all files and go into properties with context, go to advanced, and there it is. You can do them all at once by changing the fields and saving. Now, how about one for *.ogg files? I don't know how to do those. Curtis Delzer At 05:42 AM 1/5/2006, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html Kevin Doucet said the following on Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:25:11PM -0600: Hi, Can any one recommend a program which works well with speech to automate creating mp3 tags? Thanks. - -- Put your trust in those who are worthy. Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDvSJdyw8Or2IRAjkdAJ9xohdk5Bn2ACua7od7Y4UEibsd9gCgjf7a +SXX0+7lEM/oDl6J/JZFsLI= =ZvNx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: another premier cd observation
Stayed tuned for more of the same. Don - Original Message - From: ALGAYZAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:19 AM Subject: Re: another premier cd observation As a result of reading some of the posts on this list, I downloaded and installed the trial version of this program and began working with it to see, first, how it would handle identifying and saving discs. On the first two I tried, the database totally misidentified the disks with the wrong names, artists, genres, and track information. Also I couldn't get some of the hotkeys to work, such as close, eject, and a few more. This being a bad start I'm holding off actually writing any CDs, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate having them before I go any further. Al Gayzagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
making CDs
you asked Were you able to copy a cd or did you write tracks to cd by choosing files? I made the CD from files. As far as I know you can't copy a CD and you can't even run the disk check and I am not sure about the writing the image part to the hard drive. Also, when you try to save an image it says something about DVDs which makes no sense since you aren't supposed to be writing DVDs. I might buy the program, but there are things that should be changed I think. Bruce's explanation on this list was better than the help, not to mention the fact that I don't have word on the system and can't read the manual. I think I wasted eight cheap blanks before I actually wrote a disk successfully by unchecking the disk testing part. Kurt ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
creating a dvd
Is there a way, either through Nero or other software, to create a dvd similar to a comercial dvd with a .avi movie? Does one need to convert the .avi file to another format in order for it to be recorded on a dvd which can be played by a stand alone dvd player? file___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Skype version 2.0.0.69 is Now Available
Skype version 2.0.0.69 is now available from www.skype.com. Here are the changes in this version: feature: Skype video (webcam) feature: contact grouping feature: quickfilter in contact list and history (enable from Options-Advanced) feature: new language - Portuguese (Portugal) feature: new sound events for chat user join, leave and incoming message to existing chat feature: chats and conference calls shown in history feature: expandable My Panel (mood, events, services integrated) feature: add contact directly from main window feature: show file transfers in history feature: quickfilter in history feature: delete single or multiple history items feature: compact chat participant list feature: save user's last auth request feature: API commands GET/SET PCSPEAKER feature: API commands BTN_RELEASED PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN feature: API command SET VIDEO_IN devicename feature: dropping file onto calltab initiates FT change: auth requests new design change: changed group selection hotkeys to Ctrl-PgUp/PgDn change: call tab visual layout changed change: UI design elements changes change: tray icon flag animation on missed events change: tray icon connecting animation change: changed Free Internet Telephony to The whole world can talk for free in file description change: import contacts error dialog displayed when there is nowhere to import contacts from change: file transfer in DND mode open file transfer dialog in minimized mode change: new installer and uninstaller icons change: history limited to 30 days for all events change: new login animation change: new layout for sound options change: show my buddy count as an option in profile change: new design for user creation change: new design for log in change: main/tools menu reshuffled change: new sounds change: display full name in profile change: included Classic sounds in Sounds Options change: video not supported messages for Win98/2000 change: mood message removed from profile bugfix: drag and drop to chat - whole window should accept target bugfix: accessibility: tab navigation on login dialog bugfix: missing window title string for remove group dialog bugfix: MSAA result codes on lists bugfix: accessibility: can't navigate to related tasks in options bugfix: accessibility: advanced settings not accessible by tab bugfix: accessibility: make 'Your e-mail will be kept private...' link accessible bugfix: 98/Me: some languages in EULA not shown bugfix: doubleclick on tray icon brings main form to top correctly bugfix: JPY sign not displayed in client bugfix: import contacts search made faster bugfix: Voicemail was not played if enter is pressed bugfix: low credit notification improved bugfix: voicemail menu item should be visible for non voicemail subscribers bugfix: login - save button should be disabled, if one password is unfilled bugfix: login - incorrect error message, if Skype Name starts with non-Latin letter bugfix: Skype UI doesn't follow Windows DPI changes bugfix: accessibility: speed dial announcement not reported via MSAA bugfix: contact list - delete does not work on multiselect bugfix: API notifications missing bugfix: add a contact and search are not changed maximize on dual-head bugfix: My Profile - each month contains 30 days bugfix: call forwarding and voicemail statuses in MSAA bugfix: profile view: not been online for long time? bugfix: chat participant list MSAA support bugfix: multichat doesn't update names when contacts change them bugfix: invalid date in profile bugfix: profile: Default day item in birthday dropdown bugfix: hotkeys value not changeable back to 'blank' bugfix: better usability of several forms with high dpi settings bugfix: error messages when webcam in use or not detected bugfix: can't send contacts to muptiple users. bugfix: memory leak in conference calls bugfix: History - Click on sent file opens C: bugfix: 98/Me: Cannot drag and drop files to send bugfix: call error descriptions were not displayed bugfix: installer only deletes default avatars bugfix: API - add OPEN VIDEOTEST command bugfix: Avatar selection opens slowly bugfix: Accessibility - call status is not available for screen reader bugfix: Accessibility - MSAA State_System_Selected not set accurately in lists bugfix: redialling number after new number input bugfix: logic of blocking and adding users bugfix: adding SO number - the old dialog opens bugfix: updates language files bugfix: icons shown when contact not expanded bugfix: Addressbar unicode support bugfix: unknown number no avatar bugfix: emoticon list does not scroll with divider bugfix: range check error on some mood messages bugfix: hanging up voicemail from non-call tab bugfix: events panel sizing bugfix: updated EULA text (German version) bugfix: addressbar is not cleared, if you delete some kind of event from history bugfix: scrollbar covers the chat participants right edge bugfix: wrong confirmation text if selected calls are deleted bugfix: 98/Me - another username appears on input
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Or you can get Gold Wave for considerably less, and you would be very surprised, I think, at what a long way their sound processing has come. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Jerry Richer wrote: Sony's Noise Reduction is in fact called Noise Reduction 2.0 and would have come on a separate CD. Noise Reduction by itself from the Sony web site is $279.99 but you can purchase Sound Forge 8.0, Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.2 from Chirping Bat for $225, includes shipping within the United States. Noise Reduction 2.0 is not part of Sound Forge. It is a separate product. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
any shortcuts for power dvd?
hello gang. I am using windows xp home edition media center and jfw 7.0. i want to ask what are the shortcuts for using power dvd? and how do i make windows media player play dvd's? Randy ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds fantastic! I, presume, you do have the sound forge noise reduction plug in, so if you do, then you're going to find that it will do a magnificent job, especially if you can get it to sample the sound in such a way that it automatically picks the hiss, and/or the noise it is suppose to hear, and not what you don't want it to reduce like the voice. Since you've recorded in SF before and know how to reverse, what I do is make a region for each side of each cassette, and then have sf write those regions to specific *.wav files, and then use something else to make the mp3s at 32K or 32K with vbr so the sound is as good as it should be. I record at 44,100Hz and then change the sample rate to 22,050, (NOT RESAMPLE) just change the sample rate so the pitch halves, to resample would not change the pitch but you'd loose quality, and then apply noise reduction since the noise you wish for the NR to hear would be at the correct pitch as well. I hope some of this rambling helps. You can change the amount of noise reduction in the nr reduction plug-in, rather than use the preset of 0.250 seconds (a quarter second) (for fast computers) and then, since it's mode 1, you can then change the amount of supression in db. The sample noise checkbox should be checked, and when you first have it sample a noise, it auto unchecks itself since the nr plug-in has found the
Skype Accessibility Report
Below are my findings. I can only speak for my experiences. I just downloaded the latest release of Skype. This is not a beta, but a full release. The contact list works very impressively with JAWS. When you launch the program, you are immediately placed into the contact window. Hitting the tab key puts you into the edit box for entering a phone number, then tab again places you back n the contact list. The contact list will give you the status of the person highlighted: online, offline, offline with call forwarding, etc. You can hit enter to immediately call that person, or you can use your application key for contact-related options. Unfortunately, this version of Skype does not offer the same (or, by my findings, any) contact list functionality with Window-Eyes. I should also add that I do not have any JAWS scripts installed. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: accessible mp3 tag program
Hi, Thanks for this. What I am wanting is a program to fill in the mp3 tags from the file names. Do you know How I can do that? Thanks. At 11:02 AM 1/5/2006 -0800, you wrote: You can make mp3 tags in Windows xp, highlight all files and go into properties with context, go to advanced, and there it is. You can do them all at once by changing the fields and saving. Now, how about one for *.ogg files? I don't know how to do those. Curtis Delzer At 05:42 AM 1/5/2006, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html Kevin Doucet said the following on Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:25:11PM -0600: Hi, Can any one recommend a program which works well with speech to automate creating mp3 tags? Thanks. - -- Put your trust in those who are worthy. Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDvSJdyw8Or2IRAjkdAJ9xohdk5Bn2ACua7od7Y4UEibsd9gCgjf7a +SXX0+7lEM/oDl6J/JZFsLI= =ZvNx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: 1/5/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14 - Release Date: 1/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14 - Release Date: 1/5/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Yes, but for $40 canadian, I can get gold wave. Why is it that sound forge is so much money? Does it have some huge feature that gold wave doesn't? Actually, gold wave does exactly what I want in the demmo, so I'm going to buy it sooner or later. Tyler PS: Jerry, I've never really gave that site a look, but it really looks nice. Who knows, I might buy something. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Sony's Noise Reduction is in fact called Noise Reduction 2.0 and would have come on a separate CD. Noise Reduction by itself from the Sony web site is $279.99 but you can purchase Sound Forge 8.0, Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.2 from Chirping Bat for $225, includes shipping within the United States. Noise Reduction 2.0 is not part of Sound Forge. It is a separate product. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: User friendly DVD payer
I have a curtis portable dvd player. Its a nice player, I got it for christmas. Its good for what I want, although it fails in the accessibility department when I press a button called virtual remote. Unless your very good like me (have a good memory), you won't remember where things are. For example, when you press virtual remote, and want to go to repeat, you need to go down, left, right, up, then down. Very hard to memorize, although if you just need specific features, it wouldn't be so bad. All I need is fast forward/search, rewind/backwards, random, and repeat. Iether then that, it really is a good player- again, another negative feature- the battery only lasts about 2.5 hours, is this normal? Tyler - Original Message - From: chris ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: User friendly DVD payer i just bought a portable one at radio shack f for around 200 dollars which seems to work well. it has a button for next track you press it twice and it will skip to the next offering on the dvd. Chris Ramsay - Original Message - From: joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: User friendly DVD payer Raul and others: what Terri and I are both wanting is a DVD player that would be easy to use as far as going between episodes on, say, a TV series DVD or one like this with different chapters or episodes. With the Sony Raul mentions, I'm wondering if, by pressing the forward button on the player (not using the remote) will this take you to the next episode and will the back button take you to the previous? While you may think this a silly question, I'm asking specifically because my daughters have DVD players and they use these complicated menus to go to a chosen episode and they tell me you have to use arrow keys on the menus to find episodes and not just hitting a forward or rewind button as you do with CD players. I know DVD's are formatted different from CD's, but we're hoping we can simply use a forward or backup button without having to use menus or a remote to go to different episodes, and so far the ones I've seen don't seem to allow this type of ease when changing to a new show on the DVD. Not really understanding how DVD's are formatted, didn't know if it was possible to simply forward and back up with the same ease you have with a CD player. Hope someone can help. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: 1/5/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds
Re: creating a dvd
Hi Avi movies need converting to mpg files to make them like a proper DVD. They must then be burned in a particular way to DVD to make them DVD player compatible. Nero will combine both processes or do them separately if you have the right components. There are many other programs on the market, accessible and non-accessible which will do the same. I quite like the Tmpgenc (now named Tsunami) range of products which are reasonably accessible for performing the conversion and transfer of the files to dvd in the correct format. Others may have other preferences. www.tmpg-inc.com Best wishes. Gordon McFarlane - Original Message - From: Joy Tilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: creating a dvd Is there a way, either through Nero or other software, to create a dvd similar to a comercial dvd with a .avi movie? Does one need to convert the .avi file to another format in order for it to be recorded on a dvd which can be played by a stand alone dvd player? file -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/06 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
A few years ago, Gold Wave was very much a toy as far as sound editors went. That has changed as new versions have come out. The price has not changed. One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Tyler Wood wrote: That is, after you spend the $200 for soundforge, and why I am stil wondering why does sound forge cost so much compaired to gold wave, unless it has 200 features that gold wave doesn't, I'm not spending that much. Not after I spend $50, at the most, for gold wave, and why I'm buying gold wave. Tyler - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you
