avi to wav problem

2006-07-04 Thread Scott Blanks
Hey all,

Thanks to those of you who pointed me towards the avi to wav conversion 
program. It's working well, with one odd exception. The wav files that I 
create from my avi files can be played in windows media player, but 
apparently not in Winamp. When I open them in Winamp, they immediately stop, 
and I can't get them started. If I open wmp, the files play without a hitch. 
Do I need another codec in order to play these files? It doesn't make sense 
though, considering that these are simply wav files. Anyhow, if you've got 
any ideas, I'm open to any and all.

Scott



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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
Use ogg or mp3 instead.
I should never use it.
/Anders.
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
Well at least someone has some sense here. I don't even remember the last 
time my computer had a WMA file on it and if it was on there, it certainly 
would've been off very quickly.
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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Re: DSpeech was Re: biblos question

2006-07-04 Thread kevin cussick
Thanks for this Kelly,

I have not spoken with Dimio for a while it's a grate little program I just 
wish it would go straight to mp3 instead of making a wov I have Yeosoft mp3 
speaker but I did not find it very satisfactory. 


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Re: Is Media Monkey accessible?

2006-07-04 Thread Steve Pattison
I don't know if Media Monkey is accessible with JAWS or any other 
screen reader but the people who wrote Media Monkey do show some 
awareness of visually impaired users.  Here are two items from the 
list of new features of various versions of Media Monkey:

- Fixed Rip CD dialog not friendly for the visually impaired
- Fixed themed radio buttons/checkboxes for visually impaired users

Of course this doesn't mean that all parts of Media Monkey are 
accessible but it does show some awareness of the needs of blind and 
visually impaired people.

At 04:35 AM 4/07/2006, you wrote:
Here's the link:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/

Is it accessible with Jaws?

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Brandon Hicks
hi andre,
The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good DRM
capabilities now and is well integrated into windows media player.

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RE: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews

Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

Bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, André van Deventer wrote:


Understandable.

I still prefer to encode in wma lossless if at all possible when ripping
cds.  I have had no problems with this format at all.

Andre


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hi andre,
The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good DRM
capabilities now and is well integrated into windows media player.

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Re: Is Media Monkey accessible?

2006-07-04 Thread tj
i played around with it a little more then a year a go, and had no luk 
geting any usable functionality out of it.

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I don't know if Media Monkey is accessible with JAWS or any other
 screen reader but the people who wrote Media Monkey do show some
 awareness of visually impaired users.  Here are two items from the
 list of new features of various versions of Media Monkey:

 - Fixed Rip CD dialog not friendly for the visually impaired
 - Fixed themed radio buttons/checkboxes for visually impaired users

 Of course this doesn't mean that all parts of Media Monkey are
 accessible but it does show some awareness of the needs of blind and
 visually impaired people.

 At 04:35 AM 4/07/2006, you wrote:
Here's the link:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/

Is it accessible with Jaws?

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Dana S. Leslie
When I ripped my CDs to FLAC, and tried playing the FLAC files with Winamp, 
in real time, I got horrible sound quality. It was suggested that my CPU 
just wasn't fast enough to uncompress the files on the fly AND deliver good 
sound. I never tried this with WMA  lossless, and don't know if the results 
would be any different. But just thought I'd report that, for anyone else 
who might want to try the experiment.
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Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

Bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, André van Deventer wrote:

 Understandable.

 I still prefer to encode in wma lossless if at all possible when ripping
 cds.  I have had no problems with this format at all.

 Andre


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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Well there seems to be a resounding vote of confidence for the OCK format, 
judging from some of the posts on the list!
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is 
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Dana S. Leslie
I think you mean .AAC - that's A A C, not O C K.
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 Well there seems to be a resounding vote of confidence for the OCK format,
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some of 
those files were WMA's!
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
Your point? Just because a cd is labled an MP3 cd doesn't mean they have 
to be mp3 files. They are actually called data cd's for your information 
and can therefore have anything on them.
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 Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some of
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 /Anders.
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Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread MAGGIE NORTON
Hi!
I have WMA 11 and Nero 6.
I have numerous music MP3 files on DVD discs.
I want to burn specific albums onto another blank DVD-RW disc.
I have used Nero before to burn CDs, but can't work out how to do DVDs!
The menus do not mention DVD at all!
Do I need an updated version, or is there another programme anyone could 
recommend?
Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Sorry.  Wasn't sure about the spelling.
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I think you mean .AAC - that's A A C, not O C K.
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 Well there seems to be a resounding vote of confidence for the OCK 
 format,
 judging from some of the posts on the list!
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
 - Original Message - 
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Richard Claypool
When I was younger I could hear the dif between 192 and 360, but after my 
axident my hearing's shot.  I'd give anything to have it back.

Rick

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Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


 Interesting though that many of the download services uses wma encoding
 then.

 I have actually compared two recordings of the same song at 128 mp3 and 
 128
 wma and the 128 wma one definitely sounded better.

 Andre


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 The day that that happens, the windows media format will be a great 
 success
 and stop being on the back end of everything.
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i did it!

2006-07-04 Thread Brandon Hicks
hey all,
I fixed kurzweil. no need for any other mp3 programs, I managed to fix it,
and it's now happily creating mp3 files at my preferred speed of reading and
separating them into chunks. I had to modify the file creation cue. It
didn't like the third mp3 file of one particular book for some reason, so I
had to shift some lines between files, but I did it right with no help from
tech support and it didn't require a restart.
Thanks to all who've helped me on this list with the very frustrating
problem.
l8r

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Well that's true, but I'm just saying that when my brother copied them for 
me, they had mostly MP3's on them, but also, they had some WMA files, as 
well.  I know they are data CD's; but anyway, thanks for straightening that 
out!
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 Your point? Just because a cd is labled an MP3 cd doesn't mean they have
 to be mp3 files. They are actually called data cd's for your information
 and can therefore have anything on them.
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 Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some of
 those files were WMA's!
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 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well at least someone has some sense here. I don't even remember the 
 last
 time my computer had a WMA file on it and if it was on there, it
 certainly
 would've been off very quickly.
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Dana S. Leslie
It stands for Advanced Audio Coding.
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 Sorry.  Wasn't sure about the spelling.
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I think you mean .AAC - that's A A C, not O C K.
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 Well there seems to be a resounding vote of confidence for the OCK
 format,
 judging from some of the posts on the list!
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is
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Need help.

2006-07-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
I really need your help now.
Last week i was able without any problems to record from the line in on my 
realtek ac97 which is connected to my receiver.
THe sound was very clear except a grounding hum but i could live with that.
Today when connected the receiver and try recording the sound was very 
distorted and really awful.
I was recording with goldwave but i havent change anything since last time i 
was recorded.
I really need help.
/Anders.
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RE: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread André van Deventer
Hi Rick

I wear a cochlear implant and a hearing aid and when connecting the two up
directly, sometimes I can hear the difference.

But it took me some time to be able to listen to music properly after the
implant.

Regards

Andre
 

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Sent: 04 July 2006 06:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio

When I was younger I could hear the dif between 192 and 360, but after my
axident my hearing's shot.  I'd give anything to have it back.

Rick

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Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


 Interesting though that many of the download services uses wma encoding
 then.

 I have actually compared two recordings of the same song at 128 mp3 and 
 128
 wma and the 128 wma one definitely sounded better.

 Andre


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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Thanks!
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 It stands for Advanced Audio Coding.
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 Sorry.  Wasn't sure about the spelling.
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I think you mean .AAC - that's A A C, not O C K.
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 Well there seems to be a resounding vote of confidence for the OCK
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 judging from some of the posts on the list!
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 is
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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Maggie!  What version of Nero do you have?  Nero didn't have a DVD 
utility until Nero 6!
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 Hi!
I have WMA 11 and Nero 6.
 I have numerous music MP3 files on DVD discs.
 I want to burn specific albums onto another blank DVD-RW disc.
 I have used Nero before to burn CDs, but can't work out how to do DVDs!
 The menus do not mention DVD at all!
 Do I need an updated version, or is there another programme anyone could
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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread Dancing Queen
I burned my first CD this afternoon and thought I was going to have problems 
as the burn option was disabled, I found out, it was because it wanted to 
know if I wanted to use my cd writer or dvd writer, I have one of each and 
so it needed to know, once I'd chosen it was fine.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing that i could have burned the mp3 music tracks 
on to a dvd just the same as everything else was in place.

Trace

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 Hi!
I have WMA 11 and Nero 6.
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 I have used Nero before to burn CDs, but can't work out how to do DVDs!
 The menus do not mention DVD at all!
 Do I need an updated version, or is there another programme anyone could
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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread Brandon Hicks
hi
You can't actually burn them to a DVD and expect to play them unless you're
playing them in a DVD capable unit. Because they're physically designed
differently than CD's, CD players can't read them at all, even if you just
put MP3 files on them. Most players won't even recognize a DVD is in the
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

The obvious advantages are:
WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
format to MP3
WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music databases
for managing music collections
WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of any
that will do this for Flak
WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on the
comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to adopt
a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best file
size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and have
switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my computer,
on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

Regards.

Kevin
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Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, André van Deventer wrote:

 Understandable.

 I still prefer to encode in wma lossless if at all possible when ripping
 cds.  I have had no problems with this format at all.

 Andre


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 hi andre,
 The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good
DRM
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Scott Blanks
I don't often limit myself to a me too message, but Kevin has made nothing 
but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to people 
who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft, rather 
than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA.

Scott


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Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


Hi Bruce.

The obvious advantages are:
WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
format to MP3
WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music databases
for managing music collections
WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of any
that will do this for Flak
WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on the
comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to adopt
a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best file
size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and have
switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my computer,
on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

Bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, André van Deventer wrote:

 Understandable.

 I still prefer to encode in wma lossless if at all possible when ripping
 cds.  I have had no problems with this format at all.

 Andre


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 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio

 hi andre,
 The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good
DRM
 capabilities now and is well integrated into windows media player.

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews
I don't have an anti-MicroSoft bias, I just hate Windows Media. I use OGG 
Vorbis where possible, which my Victor Classic Plus will play, and my only 
portable player is my Book Port which doesn't support Windows Media. I use 
FLAC for storage purposes only, so it doesn't matter if a portable unit 
can decode it or not, and again, my portable can't play Windows Media 
anyway. Every experience I've had with Windows Media has resulted in a 
slightly warbly sound with a rather penetrating high end. These are just 
my personal experiences, and maybe things have improved since I had said 
experiences.

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

 Regards.

 Kevin
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Brandon.

Those of us that have used both MP3 and WMA exhaustively would definitely
disagree with this statement.  MP3 is an ancient technology that is
widespread because of it's maturity and because of it's compatibility - not
for it's quality.

I'd suggest you do some experimentation and see for yourself how good WMA is
compared to MP3.

Regards.

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Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 hi gary,
 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is not
a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews
What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media 
compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, period. 
My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first 
lossless compression I ever saw.

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote:

 I don't often limit myself to a me too message, but Kevin has made nothing
 but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to people
 who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft, rather
 than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA.

 Scott


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 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

 Regards.

 Kevin
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing WMA
lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around 1,300kbps
whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around
900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously.

As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately 31
Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes track
duration.  The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a
comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg.

Regards.

Kevin
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To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media
 compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, period.
 My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first
 lossless compression I ever saw.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote:

  I don't often limit myself to a me too message, but Kevin has made
nothing
  but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to
people
  who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft,
rather
  than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA.
 
  Scott
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio
 
 
  Hi Bruce.
 
  The obvious advantages are:
  WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
  format to MP3
  WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music
databases
  for managing music collections
  WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
  programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of
any
  that will do this for Flak
  WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on
the
  comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
  based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.
The
  fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
  recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as
WMA.
  It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you
can't
  sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to
adopt
  a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best
file
  size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and
have
  switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my
computer,
  on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
  collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
  absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.
 
  Regards.
 
  Kevin
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  From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM
  Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio
 
 
  Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?
 
  Bruce
 
 

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A skype out problem

2006-07-04 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Hello,

As I got no response when I posted this to the Skype list, I 
thought I would try here.

I have no difficulty dialing or connecting to phone numbers using 
Skype Out.  This is the service where  one can make phone calls 
to conventional phone numbers.

The problem I am having is that the sound quality of the mike has 
far too much bass and no trebel.  Using the same mike and an 
identical set up, the audio quality is beautiful when calling 
another Skype user; that is, computer to computer rather than via 
a phone line.

I don't know if this has anything to do with filtering since 
phone lines limit the modulating frequencies to about 4000 
cycles.  I am not using any kind of equalizer.

I would be most interested to hear whether others have 
experienced this with Skype Out; and, if so, how did you resolve 
the issue.  Thanks in advance.

Don Roberts


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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews
It's the FLAC versus WMA lossless comparison that I'd like to make. I 
understand the comparisons with lossy compression and/or with wave files. 
Thanks.
bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

 Hi Bruce.

 I've never used Flak so can't give a comparison as such but comparing WMA
 lossless to WAV, typically the WAV file will be encoded at around 1,300kbps
 whereas the WMA lossless will typically have been compressed to around
 900kpbs with no change to sound quality obviously.

 As an example, Bruce Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. is approximately 31
 Meg in size when encoded in WMA lossless for the 4 and a half minutes track
 duration.  The same file ripped at 320kbps in MP3 is 11 meg in size as a
 comparison and I'd expect the WAV file to be around 35 to 40 meg.

 Regards.

 Kevin
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 What about the size of compression, how does Flac and Windows Media
 compare? If both are lossless, I'll go with whichever is smallest, period.
 My pro-FLAC bias is based on the simple fact that it was the first
 lossless compression I ever saw.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Scott Blanks wrote:

 I don't often limit myself to a me too message, but Kevin has made
 nothing
 but good points in his post. I too have found that, when talking to
 people
 who prefer flak, more often than not they tend to be anti-microsoft,
 rather
 than for flak for a good reason. Go WMA.

 Scott


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 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music
 databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of
 any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on
 the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.
 The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as
 WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you
 can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to
 adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best
 file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and
 have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my
 computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

 Regards.

 Kevin
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
Well yay for being young. I too could probably tell someone the difference 
between a 192K and a 320K file. Also a note, for those people who do have 
say WMA files, I hope you aren't say going into GoldWave and converting them 
into MP3 discs. This is called cross-coding. For those who don't have acute 
hering, this is not a great problem. However, cross-coding introduces things 
called artifacts into the recording quality. Say for example when you 
download mp3 clips off the internet and you hear that sort of twinkle in 
the background. That is sometimes due to cross coding but most of the time 
in that situation it is due to low bitrates. That is one of a few examples I 
could give of cross-coding. The only situation where you should be 
converting files is from a .wav file to a compressed file (IE. .mp3 .ogg 
.aac, etc.). As the .wav file is not compressed and is the original audio of 
everything being at a bitrate of 1403K (this usually being on CD's).
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Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


When I was younger I could hear the dif between 192 and 360, but after my
axident my hearing's shot.  I'd give anything to have it back.

Rick

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 Interesting though that many of the download services uses wma encoding
 then.

 I have actually compared two recordings of the same song at 128 mp3 and
 128
 wma and the 128 wma one definitely sounded better.

 Andre


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 The day that that happens, the windows media format will be a great
 success
 and stop being on the back end of everything.
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 Hi all!  I've heard that maybe a WMA file of 160 KBPS may have the
 quality of an MP3 at 320 KBPS.  Is this true?
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
I was making this point because some people are rather stupid and are 
confused with the distinction of mp3 discs and data discs. As to whether 
they are the same thing or not. However, I am glad we are now on the same 
page.
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 Well that's true, but I'm just saying that when my brother copied them for
 me, they had mostly MP3's on them, but also, they had some WMA files, as
 well.  I know they are data CD's; but anyway, thanks for straightening 
 that
 out!
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 Your point? Just because a cd is labled an MP3 cd doesn't mean they 
 have
 to be mp3 files. They are actually called data cd's for your 
 information
 and can therefore have anything on them.
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 Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some 
 of
 those files were WMA's!
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 Well at least someone has some sense here. I don't even remember the
 last
 time my computer had a WMA file on it and if it was on there, it
 certainly
 would've been off very quickly.
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It 
 is
 not
 a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

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Windows Media 11

2006-07-04 Thread Tate Luck
Hi,

 

Is anyone using WM11?

 

What is the differents, from MW10

 

thanks.


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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
Well, I personallly am not completely against the WMA file format, however, 
in gards to file storage, I prefer personally to use ogg vorbis as its 
quality management is at a higher and superior way than Microsofts method in 
the Windows Media Audio files. I would never use FLAC myself and haven't 
touched it. But, in the other instance of streaming, AAC+ is my choice of an 
interesting encoder. I wouldn't use it all the time mind you, but it is 
quite good in its regard of quality management at low bitrates.
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I don't have an anti-MicroSoft bias, I just hate Windows Media. I use OGG
 Vorbis where possible, which my Victor Classic Plus will play, and my only
 portable player is my Book Port which doesn't support Windows Media. I use
 FLAC for storage purposes only, so it doesn't matter if a portable unit
 can decode it or not, and again, my portable can't play Windows Media
 anyway. Every experience I've had with Windows Media has resulted in a
 slightly warbly sound with a rather penetrating high end. These are just
 my personal experiences, and maybe things have improved since I had said
 experiences.

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 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music 
 databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of 
 any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on 
 the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to 
 adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best 
 file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and 
 have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my 
 computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

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 Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

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Re: Windows Media 11

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews
From my standpint, the difference is an extra 1 isntead of a zero, but I 
haven't used it enough to really say, except to say that from an 
accessibility standpoint the differences seem minor if they exist at all.

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Tate Luck wrote:

 Hi,



 Is anyone using WM11?



 What is the differents, from MW10



 thanks.




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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread MAGGIE NORTON
Hi Gary,
As I said in my message, it is Nero 6. I'll listen to the tutorials and see 
if they help!
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 Hi Maggie!  What version of Nero do you have?  Nero didn't have a DVD
 utility until Nero 6!
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 Hi!
I have WMA 11 and Nero 6.
 I have numerous music MP3 files on DVD discs.
 I want to burn specific albums onto another blank DVD-RW disc.
 I have used Nero before to burn CDs, but can't work out how to do DVDs!
 The menus do not mention DVD at all!
 Do I need an updated version, or is there another programme anyone could
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 hi andre,
 The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good
 DRM
 capabilities now and is well integrated into windows media player.

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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread MAGGIE NORTON
I only know that I have got a DVD drive! So I don't think that is the 
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Subject: Re: Burning DVD music files


I burned my first CD this afternoon and thought I was going to have 
problems
 as the burn option was disabled, I found out, it was because it wanted to
 know if I wanted to use my cd writer or dvd writer, I have one of each and
 so it needed to know, once I'd chosen it was fine.

 I'm no expert but I'm guessing that i could have burned the mp3 music 
 tracks
 on to a dvd just the same as everything else was in place.

 Trace

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 Subject: Burning DVD music files


 Hi!
I have WMA 11 and Nero 6.
 I have numerous music MP3 files on DVD discs.
 I want to burn specific albums onto another blank DVD-RW disc.
 I have used Nero before to burn CDs, but can't work out how to do DVDs!
 The menus do not mention DVD at all!
 Do I need an updated version, or is there another programme anyone could
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 hi andre,
 The reason most things use WMA as there encoder is because it has good
 DRM
 capabilities now and is well integrated into windows media player.

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Re: Burning DVD music files

2006-07-04 Thread MAGGIE NORTON
Hi Brandon,
Thanks for this! I am aware of this, and have got a DVD player! It is the 
amount of files one can get onto 1 DVD disc!
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 hi
 You can't actually burn them to a DVD and expect to play them unless 
 you're
 playing them in a DVD capable unit. Because they're physically designed
 differently than CD's, CD players can't read them at all, even if you just
 put MP3 files on them. Most players won't even recognize a DVD is in the
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Playing time of MP3

2006-07-04 Thread Morey Worthington
Hello,
Is there a chart of any nature that will tell me the playing time of the 
many MP3 files that I have on my computer?
What I am after is, when I go into the properties of a file it says , as an 
example, 22.1MB How long of a playing time is there for a MB of, or how long 
for 10MB?
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks,
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Re: Playing time of MP3

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
There is no definite time to each file-size. However, it should tell you in 
the properties under the summary tab the duration of the file.

Cheers
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 Hello,
 Is there a chart of any nature that will tell me the playing time of the
 many MP3 files that I have on my computer?
 What I am after is, when I go into the properties of a file it says , as 
 an
 example, 22.1MB How long of a playing time is there for a MB of, or how 
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 for 10MB?
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Re: making music CD's

2006-07-04 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Hey, Andre!  I've been going through some older emails and just happened to 
think: If allofmp3 Exploerer can no longer be gotten on the allofm3 site, I 
wonder if you can just install alltunes and use it like allofmp3 explorer? 
Could youjust go to the menu of alltunes and find the allofmp3 home page and 
just download your stuff from there?  I never use allofmp3 explorer's 
features except to get to the allofmp3 Home page, get my tracks from there 
and let allofmp3 explorer grab the stuff I've ordered.  Is that confusing 
enough?

Cheers,
Kathy

p.s. I'd be glad to let anyone have my allofmp3 3xplorer, too, but I'm just 
not sure what files to attach when I send it; don't want to mess up anyone's 
computer!  Grin.


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Subject: RE: making music CD's


Hi Kathy

As far as I can understand it, it's a replacement for the explorer.  I
installed it and tried to use it, but you have to use the jaws cursor quite
a loot.  Its not clear to me what the difference between the two is though.
This is exactly why I asked the question here.

Let's hope some computer and audio fundi on the list can help out!

Andre



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Hey, Andre.  I've tried to figure out what that Alltunes business is all
about but haven't taken the time to explore it.  What's it supposed to do?

Blessings,
Kathy

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Subject: RE: making music CD's


Yes indeed.  You have a choice whether you want to download individual
tracks or an entire album.

The higher you encode, the more you pay.  But even when using very high
encoding, I believe it is still one of the cheapest if not the cheapest
download music available - excluding filesharing services of course.

If you use the allofmp3 explorer, you can download whole albums with ease.
It even creates+  artist and album folders for you.

By the way, has anyone used the alltunes software they have now?  I found it
rather inaccessible with no menu bar at all.

Andre


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Subject: Re: making music CD's

Oh how fun. A few things to point out. Firstly, can you get individual
files? Secondly mp3 doesn't encode by default above 320. What payment
methods does it offer?
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From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:59 AM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


Hi!

This is what is so good about this site and why you will find quite a few
blind persons subscribed to it.

You have a choice of encoding from mp3, wma and a few other encoding
methods.  Usually from 128 up to 380 I think with some music available in
lossless format.

You can expect to pay somewhere between 2 and 4 us dollars per album with
some music being even cheaper, depending on the encoding.

Regards

Andre



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hayden Smith
Sent: 02 July 2006 05:47 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: making music CD's

Just a question about AllOfMP3.com whilst we are on the subject, who here is
actually subscribed to the service. And if whoever is subscribed to thes
ervice, what is the quality of the files like. Like if I wanted to get a
minimum of MP3-192K files or at the lest a minimum of 128K, could it be
done? What is the prices like on this website and is it restricted to
specific countries of operation?
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Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:45 AM
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allofmp3 explorer rocks!  Very helpful!
Kathy

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- Original Message -
From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


 Hi!

 There is a small programme on the allofmp3 site called allofmp3
 explorer which can help you to download albums or individual tracks
 and even put them into the right folders for artists and albums.  And
 you can download individual tracks with it.  It also has a resume
 feature.  I usually set it going while doing something else.  It gives
 you a doorbell like sound when a track is downloaded.

 Andre


 

Re: i did it!

2006-07-04 Thread Ken Buxton
Hi Brandon;  Say about that mp3 business;  I  can understand that Kurzweil 
works for print, but can it serve us who own Kurzweil, for placing music in 
mp3 format onto a  cdr/w disk/  TXS Ken b
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: i did it!


 hey all,
 I fixed kurzweil. no need for any other mp3 programs, I managed to fix it,
 and it's now happily creating mp3 files at my preferred speed of reading 
 and
 separating them into chunks. I had to modify the file creation cue. It
 didn't like the third mp3 file of one particular book for some reason, so 
 I
 had to shift some lines between files, but I did it right with no help 
 from
 tech support and it didn't require a restart.
 Thanks to all who've helped me on this list with the very frustrating
 problem.
 l8r

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Re: Playing time of MP3

2006-07-04 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi.  There is no given length for the time of a specific file based 
on the file size, because of how it's produced, what bitrate it's at, 
sampling rate also comes into play, etc.
If you use JAWS and Winamp, any version from 2.9 up to the current 
5.24, press control insert pluss t and you will be told how long the 
file is in minutes and seconds.  Similarly, if you press alt plus 
shift plus t, the elapsed time of the currently playing track will be 
spoken. you can also do this while a track is paused.  Finally, to 
get the remaining time of the track,control plus shift plus t is what 
you'll want to press.  If you don't use JAWS however, you can press 
control plus j and the jump to time dialogue box will open.  You will 
be told how long the file is and it'll give you the opportunity to 
jump to a specific point in the file, in minutes and seconds.  So if 
you have a 65 minute long file, and you want to jump 25 minutes and 
15 seconds in, press control plus j and then type the following:
25:15
and press enter. and then you should be taken to that point in the file.
Hope this helps.








At 04:36 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
Hello,
Is there a chart of any nature that will tell me the playing time of the
many MP3 files that I have on my computer?
What I am after is, when I go into the properties of a file it says , as an
example, 22.1MB How long of a playing time is there for a MB of, or how long
for 10MB?
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks,
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Bruce!  Do you use the AAC format, and if you do, what do you think about 
it?
- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


I don't have an anti-MicroSoft bias, I just hate Windows Media. I use OGG
 Vorbis where possible, which my Victor Classic Plus will play, and my only
 portable player is my Book Port which doesn't support Windows Media. I use
 FLAC for storage purposes only, so it doesn't matter if a portable unit
 can decode it or not, and again, my portable can't play Windows Media
 anyway. Every experience I've had with Windows Media has resulted in a
 slightly warbly sound with a rather penetrating high end. These are just
 my personal experiences, and maybe things have improved since I had said
 experiences.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music 
 databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of 
 any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on 
 the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to 
 adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best 
 file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and 
 have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my 
 computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

 Regards.

 Kevin
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM
 Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


 Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bruce Toews
No, I can't say that I do, so I'm not the person to ask. I co my radio 
show in OGG Vorbis, and the podcasts are in MP3 for the sake of the most 
compatibility.

Bruce

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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Gary Wood wrote:

 Hi Bruce!  Do you use the AAC format, and if you do, what do you think about
 it?
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 I don't have an anti-MicroSoft bias, I just hate Windows Media. I use OGG
 Vorbis where possible, which my Victor Classic Plus will play, and my only
 portable player is my Book Port which doesn't support Windows Media. I use
 FLAC for storage purposes only, so it doesn't matter if a portable unit
 can decode it or not, and again, my portable can't play Windows Media
 anyway. Every experience I've had with Windows Media has resulted in a
 slightly warbly sound with a rather penetrating high end. These are just
 my personal experiences, and maybe things have improved since I had said
 experiences.

 Bruce

 --
 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

 Bruce Toews
 E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
 Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com

 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Kevin Lloyd wrote:

 Hi Bruce.

 The obvious advantages are:
 WMA is supported by many players and is probably the next most supported
 format to MP3
 WMA supports ID3 tags and so is supported by many software music
 databases
 for managing music collections
 WMA can be burned directly to audio CD's because most burning software
 programs support direct conversion from WMA to CDDA - I'm not aware of
 any
 that will do this for Flak
 WMA sounds damn good - there has been some subjective discussion here on
 the
 comparison between MP3 and WMA, some of which seems very anti-Microsoft
 based tripe rather than objective considerations and evidence based.  The
 fact is that MP3 is the oldest encoding technology around and lacks the
 recent development that's been put into more modern encoders such as WMA.
 It's true that DRM is a driver for music sites to adopt WMA but you can't
 sell crap quality music so it would not make sense for the industry to
 adopt
 a technology that wasn't going to provide the best quality for the best
 file
 size.  I've personally done much testing over the past 5 to 6 years and
 have
 switched from MP3 to WMA based on the evidence of playback on my
 computer,
 on my portable player and on my Linn hi-fi.  It was painful to rip my
 collection all over but I can tell you that the difference in quality is
 absolutely apparent and that pain has been rewarded.

 Regards.

 Kevin
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:26 PM
 Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


 Does WMA Lossless ahve any advantage over FLAC or vice versa?

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
I guess I'll have to do that too!  I tried burning a CD using the OG format, 
but as was stated before, didn't play on my DVD player that's hooked to my 
surround sound, but that does play MP3S and also WMA files.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Hi Brandon.

 Those of us that have used both MP3 and WMA exhaustively would definitely
 disagree with this statement.  MP3 is an ancient technology that is
 widespread because of it's maturity and because of it's compatibility - 
 not
 for it's quality.

 I'd suggest you do some experimentation and see for yourself how good WMA 
 is
 compared to MP3.

 Regards.

 Kevin
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 hi gary,
 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is 
 not
 a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

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Re: i did it!

2006-07-04 Thread Dean Martineau
I haven't been following most of the threads around here lately, but 
if you have Kurzweil, you probably have windows xp, and you can burn 
mp3 or music cd's using its built-in capability.  I'm pretty sure 
instructions have  been posted for doing this bedore; if you need 
them, I'll try to find them or make some up if I have to, because it 
isn't difficult.

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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Gary Wood
Well I know that everything that isn't a wav file is considered a data file.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


I was making this point because some people are rather stupid and are
 confused with the distinction of mp3 discs and data discs. As to whether
 they are the same thing or not. However, I am glad we are now on the same
 page.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well that's true, but I'm just saying that when my brother copied them 
 for
 me, they had mostly MP3's on them, but also, they had some WMA files, as
 well.  I know they are data CD's; but anyway, thanks for straightening
 that
 out!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hayden Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Your point? Just because a cd is labled an MP3 cd doesn't mean they
 have
 to be mp3 files. They are actually called data cd's for your
 information
 and can therefore have anything on them.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some
 of
 those files were WMA's!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hayden Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well at least someone has some sense here. I don't even remember the
 last
 time my computer had a WMA file on it and if it was on there, it
 certainly
 would've been off very quickly.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anders Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
 - Original Message - 
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 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:02 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 hi gary,
 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It
 is
 not
 a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

 Brandon Hicks
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
DVD players don't tend to play ogg vorbis files unfortunately.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


I guess I'll have to do that too!  I tried burning a CD using the OG 
format,
 but as was stated before, didn't play on my DVD player that's hooked to my
 surround sound, but that does play MP3S and also WMA files.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Hi Brandon.

 Those of us that have used both MP3 and WMA exhaustively would definitely
 disagree with this statement.  MP3 is an ancient technology that is
 widespread because of it's maturity and because of it's compatibility -
 not
 for it's quality.

 I'd suggest you do some experimentation and see for yourself how good WMA
 is
 compared to MP3.

 Regards.

 Kevin
 E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brandon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 hi gary,
 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It is
 not
 a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

 Brandon Hicks
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
A wave file is in escence the starting point of audio. It is the base of our 
compression (IE. having no compression at all).
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well I know that everything that isn't a wav file is considered a data 
 file.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hayden Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


I was making this point because some people are rather stupid and are
 confused with the distinction of mp3 discs and data discs. As to whether
 they are the same thing or not. However, I am glad we are now on the same
 page.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well that's true, but I'm just saying that when my brother copied them
 for
 me, they had mostly MP3's on them, but also, they had some WMA files, as
 well.  I know they are data CD's; but anyway, thanks for straightening
 that
 out!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hayden Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Your point? Just because a cd is labled an MP3 cd doesn't mean they
 have
 to be mp3 files. They are actually called data cd's for your
 information
 and can therefore have anything on them.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well a brother of mine copied some MP3 CD's, and for some reason, some
 of
 those files were WMA's!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Hayden Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:00 AM
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


 Well at least someone has some sense here. I don't even remember the
 last
 time my computer had a WMA file on it and if it was on there, it
 certainly
 would've been off very quickly.
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 HellO!
 Use ogg or mp3 instead.
 I should never use it.
 /Anders.
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 hi gary,
 this is a resounding, firm and total no!
 Windows media has less quality at 128 kbps than mp3 does at 112. It
 is
 not
 a
 good filetype. It is totally bad for you.

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SB Live users (attention)

2006-07-04 Thread Hayden Smith
Hi there,

I have got a SB Live External 24 bit soundcard here, and I am having some 
troubles with the line-in. Basically, I have just got my mixer connected to the 
main line-in and my headphones connected to the main line-out. For some reason, 
I am getting a chorus effect on my line-in. Which would suggest that for some 
reason it is picking up two separate feeds at fractionally different times. 
Which creates this annoying effect. Does anyone know how to either neutralise 
it or get rid of it completely.


Cheers,
Hayden
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Re: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Richard Claypool
I'll reencode audio books from 64 to 32k, but for music I'd not do it.  I 
hesirate to do it even with books, but drivespace is an ishue and it's only 
spoken audio.

Rickness

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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


Well yay for being young. I too could probably tell someone the difference
between a 192K and a 320K file. Also a note, for those people who do have
say WMA files, I hope you aren't say going into GoldWave and converting them
into MP3 discs. This is called cross-coding. For those who don't have acute
hering, this is not a great problem. However, cross-coding introduces things
called artifacts into the recording quality. Say for example when you
download mp3 clips off the internet and you hear that sort of twinkle in
the background. That is sometimes due to cross coding but most of the time
in that situation it is due to low bitrates. That is one of a few examples I
could give of cross-coding. The only situation where you should be
converting files is from a .wav file to a compressed file (IE. .mp3 .ogg
.aac, etc.). As the .wav file is not compressed and is the original audio of
everything being at a bitrate of 1403K (this usually being on CD's).
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio


When I was younger I could hear the dif between 192 and 360, but after my
axident my hearing's shot.  I'd give anything to have it back.

Rick

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From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:46 AM
Subject: RE: Windows Media Audio


 Interesting though that many of the download services uses wma encoding
 then.

 I have actually compared two recordings of the same song at 128 mp3 and
 128
 wma and the 128 wma one definitely sounded better.

 Andre


 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Hayden Smith
 Sent: 03 July 2006 11:50 PM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: Windows Media Audio

 The day that that happens, the windows media format will be a great
 success
 and stop being on the back end of everything.
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 Hi all!  I've heard that maybe a WMA file of 160 KBPS may have the
 quality of an MP3 at 320 KBPS.  Is this true?
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Re: i did it!

2006-07-04 Thread Brandon Hicks
hi ken,
Unfortunately no. If it did, it would most likely do it in an exceptional
manner and I would love it more, but it doesn't. It will do daisy, however I
don't think this extends to burning on CD's. It will transfer to specific
devices for the blind, but not CD.

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RE: making music CD's

2006-07-04 Thread André van Deventer
Hi Kathy!

I tried to use alltunes once but found it a bit inaccessible compared to the
explorer.  I might just try to play with it again one day and see if I can
get it working.

Regards

Andre
 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: 05 July 2006 12:29 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: making music CD's

Hey, Andre!  I've been going through some older emails and just happened to
think: If allofmp3 Exploerer can no longer be gotten on the allofm3 site, I
wonder if you can just install alltunes and use it like allofmp3 explorer? 
Could youjust go to the menu of alltunes and find the allofmp3 home page and
just download your stuff from there?  I never use allofmp3 explorer's
features except to get to the allofmp3 Home page, get my tracks from there
and let allofmp3 explorer grab the stuff I've ordered.  Is that confusing
enough?

Cheers,
Kathy

p.s. I'd be glad to let anyone have my allofmp3 3xplorer, too, but I'm just
not sure what files to attach when I send it; don't want to mess up anyone's
computer!  Grin.


Kathy Szinnyey
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From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


Hi Kathy

As far as I can understand it, it's a replacement for the explorer.  I
installed it and tried to use it, but you have to use the jaws cursor quite
a loot.  Its not clear to me what the difference between the two is though.
This is exactly why I asked the question here.

Let's hope some computer and audio fundi on the list can help out!

Andre



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On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: 02 July 2006 06:17 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: making music CD's

Hey, Andre.  I've tried to figure out what that Alltunes business is all
about but haven't taken the time to explore it.  What's it supposed to do?

Blessings,
Kathy

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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


Yes indeed.  You have a choice whether you want to download individual
tracks or an entire album.

The higher you encode, the more you pay.  But even when using very high
encoding, I believe it is still one of the cheapest if not the cheapest
download music available - excluding filesharing services of course.

If you use the allofmp3 explorer, you can download whole albums with ease.
It even creates+  artist and album folders for you.

By the way, has anyone used the alltunes software they have now?  I found it
rather inaccessible with no menu bar at all.

Andre


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On Behalf Of Hayden Smith
Sent: 02 July 2006 06:01 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: making music CD's

Oh how fun. A few things to point out. Firstly, can you get individual
files? Secondly mp3 doesn't encode by default above 320. What payment
methods does it offer?
- Original Message -
From: André van Deventer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:59 AM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


Hi!

This is what is so good about this site and why you will find quite a few
blind persons subscribed to it.

You have a choice of encoding from mp3, wma and a few other encoding
methods.  Usually from 128 up to 380 I think with some music available in
lossless format.

You can expect to pay somewhere between 2 and 4 us dollars per album with
some music being even cheaper, depending on the encoding.

Regards

Andre



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On Behalf Of Hayden Smith
Sent: 02 July 2006 05:47 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: making music CD's

Just a question about AllOfMP3.com whilst we are on the subject, who here is
actually subscribed to the service. And if whoever is subscribed to thes
ervice, what is the quality of the files like. Like if I wanted to get a
minimum of MP3-192K files or at the lest a minimum of 128K, could it be
done? What is the prices like on this website and is it restricted to
specific countries of operation?
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From: Kathy Szinnyey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: making music CD's


allofmp3 explorer rocks!  Very helpful!
Kathy

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Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: making music CD's


 Hi!

 There is a small programme 

OGG and AAC was: Windows Media Audio

2006-07-04 Thread Bobcat
I did not hear the difference between the words aac and OGG with 
Eloquence.  So, I didn't realise there was yet another format being 
discussed around here till now.
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 No, I can't say that I do, so I'm not the person to ask. I co my radio
 show in OGG Vorbis, and the podcasts are in MP3 for the sake of the most
 compatibility.

 On Tue, 4 Jul 2006, Gary Wood wrote:

 Hi Bruce!  Do you use the AAC format, and if you do, what do you think 
 about
 it? 


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