Re: VBR Versus CBR

2014-07-05 Thread Gary Petraccaro
One consideration, at least in Winamp, is that if you want to go 45 minutes 
into a variable bit file, the time accuracy can't be trusted.  I'm not sure 
how much of an audible difference exists.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andrea Sherry" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: VBR Versus CBR


Could I have just a quick explanation of the advantages/disadvantages 
please.

Andrea
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Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Kelly Pierce
Hamit,

The Dell XPS 8700 purchase was two years in the making. I had a
Pentium 4 computer that I bought in 2004 running Windows XP. I was
unimpressed with Windows 7 when it was released in 2009 and soon heard
about new technology that would be the next generation of innovation
in personal computers. Specifically, this included USB 3, flash hard
drives, and faster processors from Intel. In September 2011, my
computer stopped working. Thank god for external backup drives. I
decided to wait until the upcoming windows 8 so I could have a
computer with the latest technology.  I bought a used HP D530C from
Chicago Surplus Computer for $85 to tide me over until the next
generation of computing arrived. As we all know, the initial windows 8
rollout was a disaster, particularly for the screen reader user.  The
interface was too futuristic for most. Microsoft regrouped and
delivered the vastly improved Windows 8.1 last fall.

To my delight, Intel opened a store here in Chicago in late November
to display products from its vendors and inform the public about its
processors. I learned there how a computer choice starts with the chip
and learned about the fastest chip for desktop computers. I searched
around and found that a local outlet of a computer superstore chain
was selling a customized version of the Dell 8700. The computer had a
256 GB solid-state drive along with a 2 Tb regular rotating hard
drive, loads of USB 3.0 jacks, 24 GB of RAM along with the fast Intel
4770 chip. It was everything I wanted and much more. I raced to the
store on December 26 with a bad cold to snatch it before it was bought
by someone else.

Now, the Intel 4770 is no longer the fastest. It has been surpassed by
the 4790, an incremental upgrade. The next big boost in performance
will be with the next generation of Intel processors that will be
released either later this year or in the first half of next year.
When this new generation of processors is combined with Windows 9, we
can enjoy the next generation of desktop computing. We are now in a
transition period between the Haswell processors and Windows 8.1 to
the new generation of Intel processors and Windows 9. If you can wait
until next year, you will likely be pleased at the performance you can
obtain for the money.

The Roland Duo Capture audio interface can be bought at a number of
outlets that sell professional audio equipment. I believe I have the
model before the current shipping version. Mine cannot support
recording from an iPhone or iPad while the current shipping version
can.  The eBay offering sold for a more than 80 percent discount than
the current shipping version.  The drivers for it though support
Windows 8.1.

If I were to pay full price, I would actually purchase the Roland Quad
Capture audio interface. It is just $70 more than the full retail
price of the Roland Duo Capture and has a few more worthwhile
features. It has a maximum capacity of 192,000 samples for recording.
The Duo Capture’s upper limit is 44,100 samples. Both support 24-bit
audio though. Useful functionality for the blind computer user is the
Auto-Sens function that intelligently sets optimal input levels for
both of the unit’s pre-amps. Roland Quad Capture is the audio
interface personally used by Bill McCann, the founder and President of
Dancing Dots, on his machines.  When I spoke with Bill earlier this
year about the two audio interfaces, it seemed I was more impressed
with the Auto-Sens functionality than he was. Yet, how could I
disagree with the wise master, who has set his own levels on audio
devices for decades, for his exquisite audio choice given that he
handles and listens to these devices every day.

Talk to you later.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> Petro,
>
> A driver needs to be installed on the computer each time it is plugged
> into a USB jack. This likely would be once for a home-based computer.
> The installer for the driver has one button that cannot be recognized
> by JAWS in Windows 8.1. It took a sighted person less than 30 seconds
> to find the button on the screen and activate it with the mouse
> though.  Once the driver is installed, all of its properties can be
> adjusted with JAWS. In addition, all the controls on the unit are
> tactile and are either toggle buttons or volume sliders. When the
> toggle buttons are pressed, they are depressed so a blind person or a
> sighted person in a dark location can tactilely feel if the button is
> activated.
>
> I hope this has been helpful.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 7/5/14, Petro Giannakopoulos  wrote:
>> Is this Roland unit plug n play? No software and does it have controls on
>> it?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kelly Pierce" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of
>> your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer wi

Re: VBR Versus CBR

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Sherry

Thanks much.
Andrea
On 6/07/2014 11:34 AM, Christopher Wright wrote:

See this page.

http://theaudacitytopodcast.com/tap006-how-to-make-lame-mp3s-with-audacity/ 

- Original Message - From: "Andrea Sherry" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: VBR Versus CBR


Could I have just a quick explanation of the advantages/disadvantages 
please.

Andrea
--
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start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad








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Re: VBR Versus CBR

2014-07-05 Thread Christopher Wright

See this page.

http://theaudacitytopodcast.com/tap006-how-to-make-lame-mp3s-with-audacity/
- Original Message - 
From: "Andrea Sherry" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: VBR Versus CBR


Could I have just a quick explanation of the advantages/disadvantages 
please.

Andrea
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More VBR Queries

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Sherry

Does either Soundforge or Goldwave save in VBR format?
Andrea
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VBR Versus CBR

2014-07-05 Thread Andrea Sherry
Could I have just a quick explanation of the advantages/disadvantages 
please.

Andrea
--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start 
from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad




Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Kelly Pierce
Petro,

A driver needs to be installed on the computer each time it is plugged
into a USB jack. This likely would be once for a home-based computer.
The installer for the driver has one button that cannot be recognized
by JAWS in Windows 8.1. It took a sighted person less than 30 seconds
to find the button on the screen and activate it with the mouse
though.  Once the driver is installed, all of its properties can be
adjusted with JAWS. In addition, all the controls on the unit are
tactile and are either toggle buttons or volume sliders. When the
toggle buttons are pressed, they are depressed so a blind person or a
sighted person in a dark location can tactilely feel if the button is
activated.

I hope this has been helpful.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Petro Giannakopoulos  wrote:
> Is this Roland unit plug n play? No software and does it have controls on
> it?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelly Pierce" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>
>
> Steve,
>
> It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of
> your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with
> the Intel i7 4770 processor, the fastest chip on the market at the
> time. It had built-in HD audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured,
> the audio sounded as good as the M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10
> years ago with the highly regarded Casio drivers. The computer came
> with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup as well as 5.1
> audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, line in
> and microphones.  Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors
> may not have as many options or HD audio.
>
> That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound
> card for audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland
> Duo USB audio interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200.
> Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using
> Windows computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and
> audio production by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface
> sounds real and lifelike and instruments are more distinct than the
> integrated sound card. This should be no surprise as the audio is
> processed outside the machine in a different cycle from the computer.
> Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product
> the quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If
> you just listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated
> card could be acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz
> performances, classical music, or instrumental music and deejay or
> stream capture or edit audio on your PC, then a second sound card or
> an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, including shipping, why
> is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells on such an
> obvious decision.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
> On 7/5/14, Sunshine  wrote:
>> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
>> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> About $ 700
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July
>>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is
>>> Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>> how much does the sound card you use cost ?
>>>
>>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
 Hi Steve,
 The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most
 use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good
 sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
 I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which
 sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card
 of my laptop for everyday use.

 Best regards
 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
 Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
 To: PC Audio
 Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

 Hi all,

 I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
 motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
 about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have
 we
 now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard
 is
 adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
 old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

 I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
 before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
 don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
 ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have
 limited
 space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

 I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
 thou

RE: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Hamit Campos
How current is it? Can one only get it on E-Bay? What sample rate and bit 
deapth can it do?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro 
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 3:06 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Is this Roland unit plug n play? No software and does it have controls on it?

- Original Message -
From: "Kelly Pierce" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?


Steve,

It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of
your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with
the Intel i7 4770 processor, the fastest chip on the market at the
time. It had built-in HD audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured,
the audio sounded as good as the M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10
years ago with the highly regarded Casio drivers. The computer came
with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup as well as 5.1
audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, line in
and microphones.  Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors
may not have as many options or HD audio.

That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound
card for audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland
Duo USB audio interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200.
Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using
Windows computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and
audio production by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface
sounds real and lifelike and instruments are more distinct than the
integrated sound card. This should be no surprise as the audio is
processed outside the machine in a different cycle from the computer.
Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product
the quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If
you just listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated
card could be acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz
performances, classical music, or instrumental music and deejay or
stream capture or edit audio on your PC, then a second sound card or
an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, including shipping, why
is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells on such an
obvious decision.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Sunshine  wrote:
> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> About $ 700
>>
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July
>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is
>> Integrated Sound Adequate?
>> how much does the sound card you use cost ?
>>
>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most
>>> use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good
>>> sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
>>> I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which
>>> sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card
>>> of my laptop for everyday use.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
>>> To: PC Audio
>>> Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
>>> motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
>>> about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
>>> now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
>>> adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
>>> old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.
>>>
>>> I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
>>> before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
>>> don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
>>> ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
>>> space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.
>>>
>>> I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
>>> thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
>>> to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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RE: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Hamit Campos
You have the Dell XPS 8700? Epic! I so want one. I would expect the audio from 
it to be very good since it's a home theater PC. Thanks for sharing how good it 
is though.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Steve,

It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of your ears. 
At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with the Intel i7 4770 
processor, the fastest chip on the market at the time. It had built-in HD 
audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured, the audio sounded as good as the 
M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10 years ago with the highly regarded Casio 
drivers. The computer came with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup 
as well as 5.1 audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, 
line in and microphones.  Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors may 
not have as many options or HD audio.

That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound card for 
audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland Duo USB audio 
interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200.
Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using Windows 
computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and audio production 
by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface sounds real and lifelike and 
instruments are more distinct than the integrated sound card. This should be no 
surprise as the audio is processed outside the machine in a different cycle 
from the computer.
Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product the 
quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If you just 
listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated card could be 
acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz performances, classical 
music, or instrumental music and deejay or stream capture or edit audio on your 
PC, then a second sound card or an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, 
including shipping, why is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells 
on such an obvious decision.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Sunshine  wrote:
> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> About $ 700
>>
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July 
>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is 
>> Integrated Sound Adequate?
>> how much does the sound card you use cost ?
>>
>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most 
>>> use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good 
>>> sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
>>> I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which 
>>> sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound 
>>> card of my laptop for everyday use.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
>>> To: PC Audio
>>> Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in 
>>> motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's 
>>> thoughts about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound 
>>> card or have we now reached the stage where using integrated sound 
>>> on the motherboard is adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 
>>> so it is about six years old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.
>>>
>>> I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC 
>>> before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available 
>>> but I don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like 
>>> is the ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I 
>>> have limited space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker 
>>> system.
>>>
>>> I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but 
>>> I thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are 
>>> bound to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Is this Roland unit plug n play? No software and does it have controls on 
it?

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?


Steve,

It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of
your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with
the Intel i7 4770 processor, the fastest chip on the market at the
time. It had built-in HD audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured,
the audio sounded as good as the M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10
years ago with the highly regarded Casio drivers. The computer came
with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup as well as 5.1
audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, line in
and microphones.  Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors
may not have as many options or HD audio.

That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound
card for audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland
Duo USB audio interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200.
Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using
Windows computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and
audio production by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface
sounds real and lifelike and instruments are more distinct than the
integrated sound card. This should be no surprise as the audio is
processed outside the machine in a different cycle from the computer.
Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product
the quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If
you just listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated
card could be acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz
performances, classical music, or instrumental music and deejay or
stream capture or edit audio on your PC, then a second sound card or
an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, including shipping, why
is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells on such an
obvious decision.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Sunshine  wrote:
> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> About $ 700
>>
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July
>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is
>> Integrated Sound Adequate?
>> how much does the sound card you use cost ?
>>
>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most
>>> use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good
>>> sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
>>> I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which
>>> sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card
>>> of my laptop for everyday use.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
>>> To: PC Audio
>>> Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
>>> motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
>>> about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
>>> now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
>>> adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
>>> old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.
>>>
>>> I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
>>> before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
>>> don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
>>> ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
>>> space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.
>>>
>>> I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
>>> thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
>>> to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Kelly Pierce
Steve,

It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of
your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with
the Intel i7 4770 processor, the fastest chip on the market at the
time. It had built-in HD audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured,
the audio sounded as good as the M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10
years ago with the highly regarded Casio drivers. The computer came
with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup as well as 5.1
audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, line in
and microphones.  Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors
may not have as many options or HD audio.

That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound
card for audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland
Duo USB audio interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200.
Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using
Windows computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and
audio production by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface
sounds real and lifelike and instruments are more distinct than the
integrated sound card. This should be no surprise as the audio is
processed outside the machine in a different cycle from the computer.
Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product
the quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If
you just listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated
card could be acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz
performances, classical music, or instrumental music and deejay or
stream capture or edit audio on your PC, then a second sound card or
an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, including shipping, why
is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells on such an
obvious decision.

Kelly




On 7/5/14, Sunshine  wrote:
> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> About $ 700
>>
>> Best regards
>> Brian
>>
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July
>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is
>> Integrated Sound Adequate?
>> how much does the sound card you use cost ?
>>
>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most
>>> use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good
>>> sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
>>> I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which
>>> sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card
>>> of my laptop for everyday use.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
>>> To: PC Audio
>>> Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
>>> motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
>>> about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
>>> now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
>>> adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
>>> old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.
>>>
>>> I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
>>> before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
>>> don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
>>> ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
>>> space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.
>>>
>>> I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
>>> thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
>>> to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.
>>>
>>> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>
>>> Regards Steve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



A Question Concerning Videos

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello once again list:  I know that this list is primarily an "audio" list,
but I wonder if any of you out there know of any video editing programs that
us visually impaired users can use?  I have some videos on a flash drive
(one of them is the one I've been talking about here of late) these videos
were taken with an Android phone and turned out well; only problem: he shot
the darned things sideways!  My computer tech was able to convert one of the
videos, using a program called Free Video Flip And Rotate.  This did the job
that we wanted it to do (this video now plays right=-side-up as we want it
to look!  But it would be nice to get all of these videos fixed without me
not having to call on my friend to do it (Free Video Flip And Rotate is not
really "blind-friendly!"  I'm not really expecting that I'm going to find
much here; after all, why would a blind person want to try and edit a video,
right?  Aw but since I do have a minimal bit of vision, if I had the right
tool that would work for me, I could probably fix these videos to make them
look like they ought to look, instead of appearing sideways!  So if any of
you know of such a program that will do this for me; one that is
"blind-friendly" I'd certainly like to know about it!  Thanks in advance!

Tom Kaufman



Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread JM Casey

Tom,
Good luck. As I said, winamp will play a lot of stuff, just not everything. 
I can't actually tell if a video is even playing on my pc or not so long as 
the audio works. I have all episodes of the Game of Thrones show in mp4 
format and they play fine, but now that I think on it I'm not sure if the 
video part even works. if I had friends over I would definitely watch in VLC 
as most people seem to agree that it's just more reliable for video 
generally and works with less hassle.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



After looking at the thread you sent me, I am very much inclined to agree;
it's just that I knew that I've seen Winamp play videos before and was
thinking that maybe there was a way to get Winamp to do so as many of my
friends also use Winamp and possibly don't have VLC!  But if I have to use
VLC to watch it, then this is what I shall do!  Thanks for the help and 
for

the feedback!
Tom Kaufman P.S.  I most likely will just remove that Winamp Essentials 
pack

as I don't see what good it is doing me!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
Casey

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

I would avoid messing with video converters if possible. You may indeed 
get

a much bigger file and the quality may in fact be worse. You're probably
just better off using vlc if you absolutely can't get winamp to play this
filetype.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't
know
how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in 
the

list when I bring up Switch!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports 
which

is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up
to
you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize
for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp 
could

be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be
a
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert 
it

to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or
first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well
as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?
In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe 
there's

something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?
Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what
I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audi

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
After looking at the thread you sent me, I am very much inclined to agree;
it's just that I knew that I've seen Winamp play videos before and was
thinking that maybe there was a way to get Winamp to do so as many of my
friends also use Winamp and possibly don't have VLC!  But if I have to use
VLC to watch it, then this is what I shall do!  Thanks for the help and for
the feedback!
Tom Kaufman P.S.  I most likely will just remove that Winamp Essentials pack
as I don't see what good it is doing me!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

I would avoid messing with video converters if possible. You may indeed get 
a much bigger file and the quality may in fact be worse. You're probably 
just better off using vlc if you absolutely can't get winamp to play this 
filetype.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


>I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
> apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't 
> know
> how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in the
> list when I bring up Switch!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
> Giannakopoulos
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which
> is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up 
> to
> you.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
> Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
> this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
> WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize 
> for
> my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
> just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
> still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
> video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
> be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
> Giannakopoulos
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
> audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be 
> a
> much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
> to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or 
> first
>
> open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
> Explorer.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
> I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
> Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
> what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
> downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
> something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well 
> as
> this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
> (not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something? 
> In
> any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
> something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video? 
> Or
> maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what 
> I
> need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
> Casey
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
> even got the right programme?
> What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?
>
> As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally 
> turned
>
> on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have 
> anything
> to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.
>
>
> - Original Message - 

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread JM Casey

Also be sure to read this:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=155680#mp4v

As you can see, video decoding is quite complicated and not really dependent 
on the file extension, which just designates the type of "container" that is 
used. Also, the free version of winamp does not have native support for mp4 
video, only audio. So that's likely what is happening. You need to 
experiment with the plugins described on the page there. Read carefully the 
section about mp4.
And no, it doesn't look like winamp essentials has anything to do with this. 
sorry



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Can't tell that it really says anything!  However, with some files, when
that window pops up, it's showing a still picture of something; maybe a
picture of the artist (in this case, since it's not a known video) 
obviously

all it's showing is this little green thing!  Thanks for the link; will
check it out!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
Casey

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,
You've mentioned another window popping up. What is that? What does it 
say?


You might want to have a look at this thread on the winamp forums:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=360701
- Original Message - 


From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Just had another look; this thing seems to be called Winamp Essentials
Pack
Christoph Grether.  Does this sound like what I should have downloaded?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally
turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have
anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
get
something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to
see
the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
another
link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no
link
that just says "download!"
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It
lists
the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
looks

like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it 
doesn't,

just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
click
for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
the
same thing
http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to 
install

this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Okay...so how 

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Can't tell that it really says anything!  However, with some files, when
that window pops up, it's showing a still picture of something; maybe a
picture of the artist (in this case, since it's not a known video) obviously
all it's showing is this little green thing!  Thanks for the link; will
check it out!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,
You've mentioned another window popping up. What is that? What does it say?

You might want to have a look at this thread on the winamp forums:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=360701
- Original Message - 

From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Just had another look; this thing seems to be called Winamp Essentials 
> Pack
> Christoph Grether.  Does this sound like what I should have downloaded?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
> Casey
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
> even got the right programme?
> What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?
>
> As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally 
> turned
>
> on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have 
> anything
> to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
>> get
>> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
>> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to 
>> see
>> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Kaufman
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
>> another
>> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no 
>> link
>> that just says "download!"
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>> Casey
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It 
>> lists
>> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
>> looks
>>
>> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
>> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
>> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>>
>>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>>> click
>>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
>>> downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>>> Casey
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>>
>>> You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
>>> search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
>>> the
>>> same thing
>>> http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
>>> I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
>>> this.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>>
>>>
 Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
 kind
 of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Sunshine
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

 you need the winamp essenchals pack. to see the vi

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread JM Casey
I would avoid messing with video converters if possible. You may indeed get 
a much bigger file and the quality may in fact be worse. You're probably 
just better off using vlc if you absolutely can't get winamp to play this 
filetype.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't 
know

how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in the
list when I bring up Switch!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which
is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up 
to

you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize 
for

my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be 
a

much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or 
first


open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well 
as

this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something? 
In

any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video? 
Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what 
I

need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
Casey

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally 
turned


on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have 
anything

to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
get
something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to 
see

the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
another
link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no 
link

that just says "download!"
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread JM Casey

Tom,
You've mentioned another window popping up. What is that? What does it say?

You might want to have a look at this thread on the winamp forums:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=360701
- Original Message - 


From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Just had another look; this thing seems to be called Winamp Essentials 
Pack

Christoph Grether.  Does this sound like what I should have downloaded?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
Casey

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally 
turned


on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have 
anything

to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
get
something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to 
see

the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
another
link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no 
link

that just says "download!"
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It 
lists

the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
looks

like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
click
for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
the
same thing
http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
kind
of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

you need the winamp essenchals pack. to see the video, i had this 
happen

and when in installed the essenchals pack for winamp the video did
display correctly


On 7/3/2014 6:42 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hi Steve:  Have tried that (actually just tried it again...no soap!
All
that happens is "video window open"...but no video shows (and I
guarantee
there _is_ video with this file!  But thanks for the suggestion 
anyhow!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Steve
Pattison
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:23 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Hi Tom,

While in Winamp try pressing Alt+V while the video is playing. Then if
you want to see the video in full screen mode press Alt+Enter. I hope
this helps.

Regards Steve.

On 4/07/2014 7:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  Am wondering if there's a way to get Winamp to p

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Well therein lies the problem; I seem to have forgotten how to make Switch
do "All File Types!"
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

I have never used Swithch but in the list can you choose all file types as 
this may allow you to see the MP4 file type?

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't know
how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in the
list when I bring up Switch!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which
is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up to
you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
I have never used Swithch but in the list can you choose all file types as 
this may allow you to see the MP4 file type?

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't know
how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in the
list when I bring up Switch!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which
is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up to
you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 201

Another Wrinkle In My Quest To Get Winamp To Play Video

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello again list:  I tried again to convert my video; this time ,Switch
_did_ find it!  However it informed me that this file contained video
(yes.already knew that) it offered to let me download Prism!  Is this
program accessible and how does it work?

Tom Kaufman



RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
I had put this out there before (had tried to convert, using Switch)
apparently switch won't convert MP4 files!  Or maybe it's that I don't know
how to tell it that; what I "do know is that the video doesn't show in the
list when I bring up Switch!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which 
is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up to 
you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just 

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
See if you can convert to a supported video format that VLC supports which 
is mostly evrything. As for removing the Winamp Essential Pack its it up to 
you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>> click
>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello Petro  I tried to convert this with Switch (apparently I cannot do
this, for it doesn't show in my list) need further instruction about this
WMV (actually I don't think I have a WMV converter on here!  I apologize for
my lack of knowledge here!  But I also would like to know if I now should
just get rid of this Winamp Essentials pack as it does not show the video
still?  I supp0ose it's not a really huge deal as if I want to watch the
video, I can always bring it up with VLC; I just thought that Winamp could
be made to play the video, but maybe this cannot be accomplished!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Petro
Giannakopoulos
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your 
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a 
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it 
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first

open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows 
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>> click
>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
>> downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>> Casey
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> You can try this 

Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Sunshine

can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality?
On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
About $ 700

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July 
05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is 
Integrated Sound Adequate?

how much does the sound card you use cost ?

On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi Steve,
The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most 
use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good 
sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which 
sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card 
of my laptop for everyday use.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve.

















Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Why not just convert this MP4 video to another video format with your 
audio/video converter program? Like WMV or whaterver but note WMV will be a 
much bigger file size and plays in Windows Media Player. If you convert it 
to WMV simply right click the file and choose open with WMP Player. Or first 
open WMP player first and then hit enter key on the WMV file in Windows 
Explorer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>> click
>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
>> downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>> Casey
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
>> search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
>> the
>> same thing
>> http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
>> I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
>> this.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>>
>>> Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
>>> kind
>>> of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Sunshine
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
>>> To: PC Audi

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Just had another look; this thing seems to be called Winamp Essentials Pack
Christoph Grether.  Does this sound like what I should have downloaded?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you 
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything 
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do 
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also 
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It 
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>> click
>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
>> downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>> Casey
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
>> search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
>> the
>> same thing
>> http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
>> I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
>> this.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>>
>>> Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
>>> kind
>>> of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Sunshine
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>>
>>> you need the winamp essenchals pack. to see the video, i had this happen
>>> and when in installed the essenchals pack for winamp the video did
>>> display correctly
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 6:42 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hi Steve:  Have tried that (actually just tried it again...no soap! 
 All
 that happens is "video window open"...but no video shows (and I
 guarantee
 there _is_ video with this file!  But thanks for the suggestion anyhow!
 Tom Kaufman

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Steve
 Pattison
 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:23 PM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

 Hi Tom,

 While in Winamp try pressing Alt+V while the video is playing. Then if
 you want to see the video in full screen mode press Alt+Enter. I hope
 this helps.

 Regards Steve.

 On 4/07/2014 7:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
> Hello list:  Am wondering if there's a way to get Winamp to play the
>>> video
> of an MP4 file?  I g

RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
I went into Programs and features and it would appear that I have Winamp
Essentials pack Christop (at least that's as best as I can remember about
what it says) I did nothing in the options, but almost ever since I've
downloaded and installed this program, Winamp will come up playing
something; I also notice two windows...the regular Winamp window as well as
this other window!  I've noticed that with some files, there is a picture
(not a video...but a picture like maybe of nan album cover or something?  In
any case, the video I want Winamp to play still doesn't!  So maybe there's
something I have to do in order to tell it I want it to play this video?  Or
maybe I should just uninstall this pack as I'm not sure that this is what I
need!  Advice and information will be appreciated!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 9:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you 
even got the right programme?
What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned

on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything 
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


> Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do 
> get
> something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
> playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
> the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
> Kaufman
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also 
> another
> link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
> that just says "download!"
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
> Tom,
>
> It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
> the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It 
> looks
>
> like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
> It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
> just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>
>
>> Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
>> click
>> for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
>> downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
>> Casey
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>> You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
>> search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
>> the
>> same thing
>> http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
>> I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
>> this.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
>> Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>
>>
>>> Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
>>> kind
>>> of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Sunshine
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files
>>>
>>> you need the winamp essenchals pack. to see the video, i had this happen
>>> and when in installed the essenchals pack for winamp the video did
>>> display correctly
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 6:42 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 Hi Steve:  Have tried that (actually just tried it again...no soap! 
 All
 that happens is "video window open"...but no video shows (and I
 guarantee
 there _is_ video with this file!  But thanks for the suggestion anyhow!
 Tom Kaufma

Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

2014-07-05 Thread JM Casey

Tom,

Are you saying you don't know whether you downloaded or not, or that you 
even got the right programme?

What was the file name? What did it say while you were installing it?

As for winamp starting automatically, it sounds like you accidentally turned 
on an option in playback prefernces. I don't think this would have anything 
to do with a download, either Wineamp Essentials or otherwise.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files


Okay...assuming I've downloading the right thing, still no video!  I do 
get

something else that appears on the scscreen.  But Winamp _still_ isn't
playing the video part!  So guess it's "back to doing VLC if I want to see
the video unless someone can tell me if I've done something wrong!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:22 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Okay...what I'm getting is "download Software Client" (there's also 
another

link that says "download (something else; don't remember what) but no link
that just says "download!"
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM 
Casey

Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:07 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Tom,

It looks like you have to click on the link that says "download". It lists
the number of kilobytes of the file and the number of votes it has. It 
looks


like a trustworthy site. Just try it :P
It will probably send you an .exe self-extracting archive. If it doesn't,
just dump the contents of the archive in your winamp\plugins folder.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Pardon my ignorance here, but exactly what (on this page) do I need to
click
for the download for this Winamp Essentials pack?  Also, once I've
downloaded it, where do I install it?  Thanks!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

You can try this for the essentials pack. I just found it with a google
search and as usual there are a host of similar sites claiming to offer
the
same thing
http://winamp-essentials-pack.software.informer.com/5.6/
I won't guarantee it will solve the problem but it can't hurt to install
this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files



Okay...so how do I get this "Winamp essentials pack?  Imagine it may be
kind
of a deal as Winamp is not being updated anymore?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

you need the winamp essenchals pack. to see the video, i had this happen
and when in installed the essenchals pack for winamp the video did
display correctly


On 7/3/2014 6:42 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
Hi Steve:  Have tried that (actually just tried it again...no soap! 
All

that happens is "video window open"...but no video shows (and I
guarantee
there _is_ video with this file!  But thanks for the suggestion anyhow!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Steve

Pattison
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:23 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Question About Winamp And MP4 Files

Hi Tom,

While in Winamp try pressing Alt+V while the video is playing. Then if
you want to see the video in full screen mode press Alt+Enter. I hope
this helps.

Regards Steve.

On 4/07/2014 7:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Hello list:  Am wondering if there's a way to get Winamp to play the

video

of an MP4 file?  I got a video the other night; if I just click it as
is,

it

comes up in Winamp; only thing is that it plays only the audio!  I can

see
the video if I have it play in something like VLC (and that's fine) 
but

was
just wondering if I could make Winamp play the video as well and if 
so,

how

is it done?
























Applian Recording Software & Windows 8 secure boot

2014-07-05 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
>From Applian
http://www.applian.com

Windows 8.1 has new security "features" which will interfere with the Audio 
Driver in RM6 as well as Replay Media Catcher 5 and Replay Radio 9. For all, 
Secure Boot needs to be turned off in the BIOS in order to pull audio out of 
programs. I am unsure if this is possible to do using your screen reading 
programs.

Petro's suggestion of using a second USB sound card might get around the 
issue, but this is not something that we test at Applian. You might need 
whoever sold you the computer to disable Secure Boot in the BIOS.


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Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Brian Olesen

Hi,
About $ 700

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Sunshine 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:15 AM 
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? 


how much does the sound card you use cost ?

On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi Steve,
The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most 
use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good 
sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which 
sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card 
of my laptop for everyday use.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve.










Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Sunshine

how much does the sound card you use cost ?

On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi Steve,
The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most 
use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good 
sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which 
sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card 
of my laptop for everyday use.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Steve Pattison
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve.










Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Brian Olesen

Hi Steve,
The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most use. But 
when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good sound you'd still 
need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry.
I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which sounds 
amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound card of my laptop 
for everyday use.


Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
From: Steve Pattison

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve. 





Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Peter Scanlon

Do you want one sound card for window Eyes and another for other audio?



-Original Message- 
From: Steve Pattison 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:29 AM 
To: PC Audio 
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? 


Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in 
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts 
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we 
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is 
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years 
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.


I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC 
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I 
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the 
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited 
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.


I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I 
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound 
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.


Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve.



RE: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

2014-07-05 Thread Robert Nelson

Steve,

Motherboard sound chips will handle basic audio adequately but even though
they may claim HD or "high def" audio, they are still mass produced to a
price.

I suggest that you go to 
www.techbuy.com.au 
and do a search for  Asus XONAR  (that's spelled X O N A R).  

Asus has a variety of sound cards  and one of them should meet your needs.
The DG and D2 cards are worth a look.

You should also do a search for Creative sound card.

Creative still makes a wide variety of sound cards and, indeed, looking at
them, one can't help wondering if some of them are not the one card with
different labels attached to them.

Also make sure you know what slot on the motherboard you are going to be
using, that is to say, PCI or PCI Express.  Note also that some of the cards
are low profile cards intended for half height back plane slots on small
form factor PCs.

Bob Nelson


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Pattison
Sent: Saturday, 5 July 2014 10:29 AM
To: PC Audio
Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate?

Hi all,

I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in 
motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's thoughts 
about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or have we 
now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the motherboard is 
adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six years 
old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card.

I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC 
before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available but I 
don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is the 
ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have limited 
space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system.

I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but I 
thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are bound 
to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality etc.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

Regards Steve.