Bose AE2W
Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A
Re: Bose AE2W
hey Anders! that is really wonderful to hear that you're happy with your new phones, smile. I'm really happy for you. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! tel: +46 703601296 Web: www.jorgenhansson.com Skype: djtropical4532 -Ursprungligt meddelande- From: Anders Holmberg Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bose AE2W Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Hi! I am happy with my mp3 sound. I can use the aac sound format to and for me thats great. /A 5 okt 2014 kl. 21:52 skrev Don Ball donbal...@earthlink.net: I can't get files to download from hdtracks? I have installed java but with ie and firefox when I click on the download link for the sampla album I get page not found or such thing. I am missing a program to download these files but I don't know what that is. I tried to download their manager with the same results. I will not buy their products if I can't download them? - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 3:24 PM Subject: Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC? Well, the minimum compression you can do with mp3 is probably 320 kbps, which is still about 4 to 1, unless some encoders can do a higher bit rate than that. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 2:21 PM Subject: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC? FLAC is used because its far smaller than Wave and lossless though FLAC is bigger than MP3 etc. The upshot of all this is that you get the full sound you'd get with FLAC as you would with Wave but in a smaller file size. The joke is that MP3 files - some I've seen - have been done using minimum compression and so on and you have to ask the question, why didn't these people create FLAC files instead? The resulting FLAC files wouldn't have been much bigger but would have been of better quality. On 4 Oct 2014, at 10:45 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote: No sir. I was just saying I didn't realize they did other formats too. Since all I keep hearing about is the WAV files. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 1:19 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Time To Purchase FLAC? No reason why you can't have HD music in different formats. On 4 Oct 2014, at 1:51 pm, Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com wrote: Ha, I thought HD tracks sold stuff in PCM. Blu-Ray PCM might I add. At epic awesome 96 KHZ 24 bit. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Time To Purchase FLAC? Going through my stack of eMail, someone wanted to know how and where to purchase Music in FLAC audio format? I suggest they start here. https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Speaking of MP3, I had great pleasure in deleting 80,000+ MP3 files from my network just now, as I have everything I owned in MP3 format in FLAC - and much more besides - there was very little point in keeping the collection. My new Wireless Hard Drive hasn't arrived yet though it will be a truly welcome addition to the network and storage. On 7 Oct 2014, at 12:23 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I am happy with my mp3 sound. I can use the aac sound format to and for me thats great. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bose AE2W
I'm not at all surprised. I don't have any Bose headsets as I don't think they make an over the ear or on-ear model but I do have two of there Bluetooth speaker systems and they are amongst the best performing audio Bluetooth devices I have here. Obviously these things aren't hands free devices but they have characteristics I'm sure you'd find in the headset, very little delay between iPhone and device for example. You've mentioned the detailed sound? Absolutely! though still not quite as good as AirPlay its a damn sight better than many other Bluetooth devices. On 6 Oct 2014, at 8:38 pm, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: Bose AE2W
Hi! Yes and you can if you want or if the battery dies when you're listening plug a cable into the headphones and use it as regular headphones. /A 6 okt 2014 kl. 20:11 skrev Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net: I'm not at all surprised. I don't have any Bose headsets as I don't think they make an over the ear or on-ear model but I do have two of there Bluetooth speaker systems and they are amongst the best performing audio Bluetooth devices I have here. Obviously these things aren't hands free devices but they have characteristics I'm sure you'd find in the headset, very little delay between iPhone and device for example. You've mentioned the detailed sound? Absolutely! though still not quite as good as AirPlay its a damn sight better than many other Bluetooth devices. On 6 Oct 2014, at 8:38 pm, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Bose AE2W
It's not so bad with the 3. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 2:12 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose AE2W I'm not at all surprised. I don't have any Bose headsets as I don't think they make an over the ear or on-ear model but I do have two of there Bluetooth speaker systems and they are amongst the best performing audio Bluetooth devices I have here. Obviously these things aren't hands free devices but they have characteristics I'm sure you'd find in the headset, very little delay between iPhone and device for example. You've mentioned the detailed sound? Absolutely! though still not quite as good as AirPlay its a damn sight better than many other Bluetooth devices. On 6 Oct 2014, at 8:38 pm, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Bose AE2W
Ah speaking of delay, Dain have you tried them with your laptop? I have and there's a long lag with the mini if you leve it alone for a bit then start doing something again. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 2:12 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bose AE2W I'm not at all surprised. I don't have any Bose headsets as I don't think they make an over the ear or on-ear model but I do have two of there Bluetooth speaker systems and they are amongst the best performing audio Bluetooth devices I have here. Obviously these things aren't hands free devices but they have characteristics I'm sure you'd find in the headset, very little delay between iPhone and device for example. You've mentioned the detailed sound? Absolutely! though still not quite as good as AirPlay its a damn sight better than many other Bluetooth devices. On 6 Oct 2014, at 8:38 pm, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I've just tested my Bose AE2W bluetooth headphones. To be honest this is one of the best headphones i've ever had. Probably the best. THe sound is so crispy and clear but also kind of filling especially in the base registry. Its quite detailed sound so i even could hear what they sang in a song which i couldn't with speakers or other headphones. Sorry for sounding so pathetic but i have to say i am really happy for spending 2000 Swedish crowns for them. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Wireless speaker info needed
I'm inquiring about info for a typical stereo speaker setup for wireless speakers, stated another way, no surround sound. If one doesn't want to serenade the people in the next house or apartment, do wireless speakers have sufficient amplification and tone quality to produce good high fidelity? Also, how far can the signal be picked up from the transmitter? Lastly, what kind of money are we talking about in U.S. dollars? Recommendations please! Don Roberts
Re: Wireless speaker info needed
There are wireless speakers that would meet your requirements and how good they sound really depends on how much you're wishing to pay, I suggest you look through the archives of this list to get a good picture of some of the many wireless devices discussed here, I actually mentioned 2 more in an eMail sent to the list minutes ago. On 7 Oct 2014, at 10:36 am, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com wrote: I'm inquiring about info for a typical stereo speaker setup for wireless speakers, stated another way, no surround sound. If one doesn't want to serenade the people in the next house or apartment, do wireless speakers have sufficient amplification and tone quality to produce good high fidelity? Also, how far can the signal be picked up from the transmitter? Lastly, what kind of money are we talking about in U.S. dollars? Recommendations please! Don Roberts ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Dane, Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apple’s media player, iTunes. With each passing year and no FLAC support, Apple incrementally loses its cool ratio. Some suggest streaming music, such as Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Slacker Radio, and iTunes Radio along with Apple’s Music Match, as alternatives to loading music files to the phone. Unfortunately, streaming music is not available on subways, planes and in big buildings as well in lightly populated areas with no cellular service. I want music on my device for the times when I want music, which includes the times with no data service. Currently, the MP3 format still represents the means to provide relatively high quality audio content for the widest range of devices, particularly mobile ones. I recently ripped all my CD’s to 256k MP3 so they could play on my iPhone. I love FLAC files and have many jazz recordings carefully ripped to FLAC for listening on a high fidelity audio system at home. Most of my album listening is away from home though so MP3 is the format of choice until Apple supports FLAC. I fear this may be a long time, as only audiophiles seem to care about it. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Speaking of MP3, I had great pleasure in deleting 80,000+ MP3 files from my network just now, as I have everything I owned in MP3 format in FLAC - and much more besides - there was very little point in keeping the collection. My new Wireless Hard Drive hasn't arrived yet though it will be a truly welcome addition to the network and storage. On 7 Oct 2014, at 12:23 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I am happy with my mp3 sound. I can use the aac sound format to and for me thats great. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Okay I accept that without question but you forgot to mention that a Windows nor a Mac computer can play FLAC files without third party software so what's the difference? Third Party software or Apps are available for IOS etc that will allow the playing of FLAC content as third party software is available for Windows and Mac to allow the playing of FLAC content. The point you raised is taken and a fair point indeed! this all means that MP3 and so on will be around for a great deal longer and I don't dispute that at all because its the truth. All I say is that MP3 and alike formats have their quality limitations and FLAC - along with other Lossless formats - is now a viable alternative given that storage is cheaper,, portable and mobile devices are coming with larger memory capacities and so on. Regarding streaming? Mp3 is being replaced by AAC and AAC+ which has a far better compression ratio, I have actually seen some FLAC streams and test a couple the BBC had experimented with quite some time ago, they worked well though quite a bit of band width is required but I'm sure that will come in time too just as the quality of streaming itself has improved out of sight over the last 20 years or so. Before I close, I did get one mobile device that could play FLAC right out of the box apart from those I've already mentioned and that was my Samsung Galaxy phone, the Playback of FLAC it seems is built-in to Android as it should be. On 7 Oct 2014, at 11:48 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apple’s media player, iTunes. With each passing year and no FLAC support, Apple incrementally loses its cool ratio. Some suggest streaming music, such as Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Slacker Radio, and iTunes Radio along with Apple’s Music Match, as alternatives to loading music files to the phone. Unfortunately, streaming music is not available on subways, planes and in big buildings as well in lightly populated areas with no cellular service. I want music on my device for the times when I want music, which includes the times with no data service. Currently, the MP3 format still represents the means to provide relatively high quality audio content for the widest range of devices, particularly mobile ones. I recently ripped all my CD’s to 256k MP3 so they could play on my iPhone. I love FLAC files and have many jazz recordings carefully ripped to FLAC for listening on a high fidelity audio system at home. Most of my album listening is away from home though so MP3 is the format of choice until Apple supports FLAC. I fear this may be a long time, as only audiophiles seem to care about it. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Speaking of MP3, I had great pleasure in deleting 80,000+ MP3 files from my network just now, as I have everything I owned in MP3 format in FLAC - and much more besides - there was very little point in keeping the collection. My new Wireless Hard Drive hasn't arrived yet though it will be a truly welcome addition to the network and storage. On 7 Oct 2014, at 12:23 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! I am happy with my mp3 sound. I can use the aac sound format to and for me thats great. /A ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane ** Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
digitizing cassette tapes question
Hello Listers, What do I need to digitize cassette tapes? I already have a stereo patch cord. How ever, it's the kind that you plug in the back of your cable box. It comes with 2 headphone plugs at one end and a single headphone like plug at the other that you plug in to your computer. Thanks Michael email/messenger mikeam...@earthlink.net Skype ID mikeameli JFK What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war, not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living and the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and build a better life for their children not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women not merely peace in our time but peace in all time.
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Dane, The difference is the tight integration of the Apple ecosystem in the company’s mobile platform. Windows is designed to be an agnostic multipurpose device. The included Windows Media Player can easily be substituted with another media player, like Winamp, that supports FLAC. By contrast, it is very difficult to load music files on the iPhone without using iTunes. Further, Apple’s headphones are integrated with the music app and the phone or tablet itself so audio input and output can be managed without touching the device. Third party apps have limited access to the controls on Apple headphones and cannot access the built-in equalizer in the music app. The equalizer on iOS allows iTunes Radio to sound so much better than Spotify, Pandora and the others, as they cannot access it. I fully support the notion that FLAC represents a significant improvement in sound quality and that increased memory and bandwidth diminish its limitations. Unfortunately, the time for universal adoption of FLAC is not now. Many have predicted for years the widespread adoption of mobile payments through sell phones using near Field Communications. The predictions never seem to materialize until now. With the iPhone 6 series, Apple finally added NFC and is rolling out a payment system. We will soon see if this technology is embraced or ignored. The quality of audio streaming is getting better without a doubt. Streaming cannot fully replace music loaded onto a mobile device though for the reasons listed earlier. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay I accept that without question but you forgot to mention that a Windows nor a Mac computer can play FLAC files without third party software so what's the difference? Third Party software or Apps are available for IOS etc that will allow the playing of FLAC content as third party software is available for Windows and Mac to allow the playing of FLAC content. The point you raised is taken and a fair point indeed! this all means that MP3 and so on will be around for a great deal longer and I don't dispute that at all because its the truth. All I say is that MP3 and alike formats have their quality limitations and FLAC - along with other Lossless formats - is now a viable alternative given that storage is cheaper,, portable and mobile devices are coming with larger memory capacities and so on. Regarding streaming? Mp3 is being replaced by AAC and AAC+ which has a far better compression ratio, I have actually seen some FLAC streams and test a couple the BBC had experimented with quite some time ago, they worked well though quite a bit of band width is required but I'm sure that will come in time too just as the quality of streaming itself has improved out of sight over the last 20 years or so. Before I close, I did get one mobile device that could play FLAC right out of the box apart from those I've already mentioned and that was my Samsung Galaxy phone, the Playback of FLAC it seems is built-in to Android as it should be. On 7 Oct 2014, at 11:48 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apple’s media player, iTunes. With each passing year and no FLAC support, Apple incrementally loses its cool ratio. Some suggest streaming music, such as Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Slacker Radio, and iTunes Radio along with Apple’s Music Match, as alternatives to loading music files to the phone. Unfortunately, streaming music is not available on subways, planes and in big buildings as well in lightly populated areas with no cellular service. I want music on my device for the times when I want music, which includes the times with no data service. Currently, the MP3 format still represents the means to provide relatively high quality audio content for the widest range of devices, particularly mobile ones. I recently ripped all my CD’s to 256k MP3 so they could play on my iPhone. I love FLAC files and have many jazz recordings carefully ripped to FLAC for listening on a high fidelity audio system at home. Most of my album listening is away from home though so MP3 is the format of choice until Apple supports FLAC. I fear this may be a long time, as only audiophiles seem to care about it. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Speaking of MP3, I had great pleasure in deleting 80,000+ MP3 files from my network just now, as I have everything I owned in MP3 format in FLAC - and much more besides - there was very little point in keeping the collection. My new Wireless Hard Drive hasn't arrived yet though it will be a truly welcome addition to the network and storage. On 7 Oct 2014, at 12:23 am, Anders Holmberg
Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
You're making things terribly and unecssarely complex and complicated. Yes that's right, just replace Windows Media Player on your Windows Machine with something that plays FLAC files and the same applies to your iPhone, Mac etc. In the case of iPhone and Mac no one says you have to use iTunes at all! I don't for playing audio files. If you do need to or want to use iTunes then no, you can't play FLAC files with iTunes however you can play Lossless AAC Audio with iTunes thus you could convert your FLAC collection, Monkeys Audio Collection or whatever, even rip your CD'S to a Lossless format for playback. though that's a step that I don't think most most will want to take, its just far easier getting a Third party player and playing the FLAC or whatever the audio is on your iPhone and enjoying. On 7 Oct 2014, at 1:21 pm, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, The difference is the tight integration of the Apple ecosystem in the company’s mobile platform. Windows is designed to be an agnostic multipurpose device. The included Windows Media Player can easily be substituted with another media player, like Winamp, that supports FLAC. By contrast, it is very difficult to load music files on the iPhone without using iTunes. Further, Apple’s headphones are integrated with the music app and the phone or tablet itself so audio input and output can be managed without touching the device. Third party apps have limited access to the controls on Apple headphones and cannot access the built-in equalizer in the music app. The equalizer on iOS allows iTunes Radio to sound so much better than Spotify, Pandora and the others, as they cannot access it. I fully support the notion that FLAC represents a significant improvement in sound quality and that increased memory and bandwidth diminish its limitations. Unfortunately, the time for universal adoption of FLAC is not now. Many have predicted for years the widespread adoption of mobile payments through sell phones using near Field Communications. The predictions never seem to materialize until now. With the iPhone 6 series, Apple finally added NFC and is rolling out a payment system. We will soon see if this technology is embraced or ignored. The quality of audio streaming is getting better without a doubt. Streaming cannot fully replace music loaded onto a mobile device though for the reasons listed earlier. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay I accept that without question but you forgot to mention that a Windows nor a Mac computer can play FLAC files without third party software so what's the difference? Third Party software or Apps are available for IOS etc that will allow the playing of FLAC content as third party software is available for Windows and Mac to allow the playing of FLAC content. The point you raised is taken and a fair point indeed! this all means that MP3 and so on will be around for a great deal longer and I don't dispute that at all because its the truth. All I say is that MP3 and alike formats have their quality limitations and FLAC - along with other Lossless formats - is now a viable alternative given that storage is cheaper,, portable and mobile devices are coming with larger memory capacities and so on. Regarding streaming? Mp3 is being replaced by AAC and AAC+ which has a far better compression ratio, I have actually seen some FLAC streams and test a couple the BBC had experimented with quite some time ago, they worked well though quite a bit of band width is required but I'm sure that will come in time too just as the quality of streaming itself has improved out of sight over the last 20 years or so. Before I close, I did get one mobile device that could play FLAC right out of the box apart from those I've already mentioned and that was my Samsung Galaxy phone, the Playback of FLAC it seems is built-in to Android as it should be. On 7 Oct 2014, at 11:48 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apple’s media player, iTunes. With each passing year and no FLAC support, Apple incrementally loses its cool ratio. Some suggest streaming music, such as Pandora, TuneIn Radio, Slacker Radio, and iTunes Radio along with Apple’s Music Match, as alternatives to loading music files to the phone. Unfortunately, streaming music is not available on subways, planes and in big buildings as well in lightly populated areas with no cellular service. I want music on my device for the times when I want music, which includes the times with no data service. Currently, the MP3 format still represents the means to provide relatively high quality audio
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RE: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?
Dane, you're right with all you say about flac files. I'm a fan myself, but I'll stick to mp3 for my portable players because the Plextalk Pocket doesn't support Flac and the IPhone storage space is so unbelievably expensive! An Apple policy that I'll never be able to understand. Take care, Alexandra -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC? You're making things terribly and unecssarely complex and complicated. Yes that's right, just replace Windows Media Player on your Windows Machine with something that plays FLAC files and the same applies to your iPhone, Mac etc. In the case of iPhone and Mac no one says you have to use iTunes at all! I don't for playing audio files. If you do need to or want to use iTunes then no, you can't play FLAC files with iTunes however you can play Lossless AAC Audio with iTunes thus you could convert your FLAC collection, Monkeys Audio Collection or whatever, even rip your CD'S to a Lossless format for playback. though that's a step that I don't think most most will want to take, its just far easier getting a Third party player and playing the FLAC or whatever the audio is on your iPhone and enjoying. On 7 Oct 2014, at 1:21 pm, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, The difference is the tight integration of the Apple ecosystem in the companys mobile platform. Windows is designed to be an agnostic multipurpose device. The included Windows Media Player can easily be substituted with another media player, like Winamp, that supports FLAC. By contrast, it is very difficult to load music files on the iPhone without using iTunes. Further, Apples headphones are integrated with the music app and the phone or tablet itself so audio input and output can be managed without touching the device. Third party apps have limited access to the controls on Apple headphones and cannot access the built-in equalizer in the music app. The equalizer on iOS allows iTunes Radio to sound so much better than Spotify, Pandora and the others, as they cannot access it. I fully support the notion that FLAC represents a significant improvement in sound quality and that increased memory and bandwidth diminish its limitations. Unfortunately, the time for universal adoption of FLAC is not now. Many have predicted for years the widespread adoption of mobile payments through sell phones using near Field Communications. The predictions never seem to materialize until now. With the iPhone 6 series, Apple finally added NFC and is rolling out a payment system. We will soon see if this technology is embraced or ignored. The quality of audio streaming is getting better without a doubt. Streaming cannot fully replace music loaded onto a mobile device though for the reasons listed earlier. Kelly On 10/6/14, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote: Okay I accept that without question but you forgot to mention that a Windows nor a Mac computer can play FLAC files without third party software so what's the difference? Third Party software or Apps are available for IOS etc that will allow the playing of FLAC content as third party software is available for Windows and Mac to allow the playing of FLAC content. The point you raised is taken and a fair point indeed! this all means that MP3 and so on will be around for a great deal longer and I don't dispute that at all because its the truth. All I say is that MP3 and alike formats have their quality limitations and FLAC - along with other Lossless formats - is now a viable alternative given that storage is cheaper,, portable and mobile devices are coming with larger memory capacities and so on. Regarding streaming? Mp3 is being replaced by AAC and AAC+ which has a far better compression ratio, I have actually seen some FLAC streams and test a couple the BBC had experimented with quite some time ago, they worked well though quite a bit of band width is required but I'm sure that will come in time too just as the quality of streaming itself has improved out of sight over the last 20 years or so. Before I close, I did get one mobile device that could play FLAC right out of the box apart from those I've already mentioned and that was my Samsung Galaxy phone, the Playback of FLAC it seems is built-in to Android as it should be. On 7 Oct 2014, at 11:48 am, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: Dane, Your analysis of the FLAC format omits the lack of support on Apple mobile devices. The iPhone and iPad and their iOS operating system stands as the most coveted and popular consumer technology in the world. Yet, FLAC files cannot be played on these devices or Apples media player, iTunes. With each passing year
