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To find out the price of J-Tunes scripts, go here: http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/products/ss00018_jtunes.php It is £41.13 but I don't know what that is in US$. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You must be nuts. Certainly you are giving out incorrect information probably because of your ignorance of Jtunes and or Itunes, certainly the Airport Express, which puts all of the transmitters that I've tried to shame. On Jan 9, 2010, at 11:22 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, I agree with you on that. It is way to much trouble for anyone to go through, especially if you can't see. Also, the thing about ITunes, is you have to have a peace of software that's called JTunes. And that's just to make ITunes blind user friendly. But most people don't have $1000 to spend on a peace of software that limits you to one application. Where is the since in that? The radio transmitter, is a way cheaper way to get your tunes from your computer to anywhere you may want to take it around your home. I have two transmitters. One on my computer, the other one on my satellite dish receiver. John - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You must understand that he really has no idea what he is talking about. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah Pardon me? What has Itunes, Airfoil or Airport Express got to do with Blue Tooth Speakers? Absolutely nothing! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Dain, I tried that software about a year ago, I didn't like it. For one thing, it kept on crashing my screen reading software which was and still is Jaws. The other thing is, you need sighted help to set up those blue tooth speaker systems. I like working independently of sighted help. My wife is sighted, but I won't call on her for help with my electronic equipment unless I really need to. But anyway, that's just me. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com
Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question
Maybe your screenreading software was crashing because it was jaws, because I have been using the software under windows and mac os for over a year no problem. Since the software is totally accessible under window-eyes and voiceover I can only feel sorry for jaws users who are missing out on an audio experience that far out does a fm transmitters. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:28 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Dain, I tried that software about a year ago, I didn't like it. For one thing, it kept on crashing my screen reading software which was and still is Jaws. The other thing is, you need sighted help to set up those blue tooth speaker systems. I like working independently of sighted help. My wife is sighted, but I won't call on her for help with my electronic equipment unless I really need to. But anyway, that's just me. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Tim, I know that I am right because I have tried all of those things out, they are a pain in the rear. ITunes by itself, is not blind user friendly. There are allot of things that Jaws just won't let you pick up. This is why you need JTunes. But like I said, that peace of software cost $1000. So, who is nuts, not I! John. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:37 PM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question You must be nuts. Certainly you are giving out incorrect information probably because of your ignorance of Jtunes and or Itunes, certainly the Airport Express, which puts all of the transmitters that I've tried to shame. On Jan 9, 2010, at 11:22 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, I agree with you on that. It is way to much trouble for anyone to go through, especially if you can't see. Also, the thing about ITunes, is you have to have a peace of software that's called JTunes. And that's just to make ITunes blind user friendly. But most people don't have $1000 to spend on a peace of software that limits you to one application. Where is the since in that? The radio transmitter, is a way cheaper way to get your tunes from your computer to anywhere you may want to take it around your home. I have two transmitters. One on my computer, the other one on my satellite dish receiver. John - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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First, if I were you I would quit saying that Jtunes was anywhere near $1000. In fact, though I don't use Jaws, I happen to know that Jtunes is just a set of Jaws scripts, and though I haven't checked the price lately, I would be surprised if it were near $100. Secondly, if you are saying you needed sighted assistance to use the Airport Express and you still couldn't get it to work but I manage to use it every day with no sight well enough said. Third, I happen to know some of the people on this list and know that it would be easy for them to use if only they weren't listening to the bogus information you were putting out. On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:16 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tim, I know that I am right because I have tried all of those things out, they are a pain in the rear. ITunes by itself, is not blind user friendly. There are allot of things that Jaws just won't let you pick up. This is why you need JTunes. But like I said, that peace of software cost $1000. So, who is nuts, not I! John. - Original Message - From: Tim Grady tfgra...@verizon.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:37 PM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question You must be nuts. Certainly you are giving out incorrect information probably because of your ignorance of Jtunes and or Itunes, certainly the Airport Express, which puts all of the transmitters that I've tried to shame. On Jan 9, 2010, at 11:22 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, I agree with you on that. It is way to much trouble for anyone to go through, especially if you can't see. Also, the thing about ITunes, is you have to have a peace of software that's called JTunes. And that's just to make ITunes blind user friendly. But most people don't have $1000 to spend on a peace of software that limits you to one application. Where is the since in that? The radio transmitter, is a way cheaper way to get your tunes from your computer to anywhere you may want to take it around your home. I have two transmitters. One on my computer, the other one on my satellite dish receiver. John - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Please be civil with comments to the PC Audio list. Tom ** Message From: Tim Grady ** You must be nuts. Certainly you are giving out incorrect information probably because of your ignorance of Jtunes and or Itunes, certainly the Airport Express, which puts all of the transmitters that I've tried to shame. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Yes, that's right and it works BEAUTIFULLY! Also, I have a new pluggin called Audioproc and it works even better than SS and I listen to the FM stations around the area and my sound can keep up with the big boys...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Sound Solution is performing the compression for you. It is a sound compression plug in. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Paul Hutson wrote: Well, I've had a C-crane FM transmitter since 2004 and I've had no problems with it giving me the same volume as other FM stations in my area. I am running Winamp with Sound Solutions, Octimax, (which are audio processing pluggins) and also using Station Playlist Studio as well and don't have this problem which you describe. Just my 2 cents worth...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2610 - Release Date: 01/09/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi can you tell us what this audioproc plug in does and how you have it set up? Also is it free to get and is this a DSP plug in and also where do you get the sound solutions one that you have and do you use them both at the same time and if so how do you have them both set up meaning what settings are you using. And was it hard to get these two plug in together? Casey - Original Message - From: Paul Hutson pjhut...@cablelynx.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Yes, that's right and it works BEAUTIFULLY! Also, I have a new pluggin called Audioproc and it works even better than SS and I listen to the FM stations around the area and my sound can keep up with the big boys...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Sound Solution is performing the compression for you. It is a sound compression plug in. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Paul Hutson wrote: Well, I've had a C-crane FM transmitter since 2004 and I've had no problems with it giving me the same volume as other FM stations in my area. I am running Winamp with Sound Solutions, Octimax, (which are audio processing pluggins) and also using Station Playlist Studio as well and don't have this problem which you describe. Just my 2 cents worth...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2610 - Release Date: 01/09/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You can find it at winamp.com if you look in the plugins section. Search on audioproc. I just installed the lite version and it works great. Reminds me of the old Volumelogic plugin which is no longer made. It isn't free but there is a 15 day trial period to see if you like it. On Jan 10, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Casey wrote: Hi can you tell us what this audioproc plug in does and how you have it set up? Also is it free to get and is this a DSP plug in and also where do you get the sound solutions one that you have and do you use them both at the same time and if so how do you have them both set up meaning what settings are you using. And was it hard to get these two plug in together? Casey - Original Message - From: Paul Hutson pjhut...@cablelynx.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Yes, that's right and it works BEAUTIFULLY! Also, I have a new pluggin called Audioproc and it works even better than SS and I listen to the FM stations around the area and my sound can keep up with the big boys...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Sound Solution is performing the compression for you. It is a sound compression plug in. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Paul Hutson wrote: Well, I've had a C-crane FM transmitter since 2004 and I've had no problems with it giving me the same volume as other FM stations in my area. I am running Winamp with Sound Solutions, Octimax, (which are audio processing pluggins) and also using Station Playlist Studio as well and don't have this problem which you describe. Just my 2 cents worth...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2610 - Release Date: 01/09/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question
That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Well, I've had a C-crane FM transmitter since 2004 and I've had no problems with it giving me the same volume as other FM stations in my area. I am running Winamp with Sound Solutions, Octimax, (which are audio processing pluggins) and also using Station Playlist Studio as well and don't have this problem which you describe. Just my 2 cents worth...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Dain, I tried that software about a year ago, I didn't like it. For one thing, it kept on crashing my screen reading software which was and still is Jaws. The other thing is, you need sighted help to set up those blue tooth speaker systems. I like working independently of sighted help. My wife is sighted, but I won't call on her for help with my electronic equipment unless I really need to. But anyway, that's just me. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Ah Pardon me? What has Itunes, Airfoil or Airport Express got to do with Blue Tooth Speakers? Absolutely nothing! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Dain, I tried that software about a year ago, I didn't like it. For one thing, it kept on crashing my screen reading software which was and still is Jaws. The other thing is, you need sighted help to set up those blue tooth speaker systems. I like working independently of sighted help. My wife is sighted, but I won't call on her for help with my electronic equipment unless I really need to. But anyway, that's just me. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Dain, If you can see what you are doing, you can stream ITunes and Airfoil through a set of Blue Tooth speakers. But like I said, you need sighted help to set it up. And ITunes and Airfoil kept crashing Jaws. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Ah Pardon me? What has Itunes, Airfoil or Airport Express got to do with Blue Tooth Speakers? Absolutely nothing! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Dain, I tried that software about a year ago, I didn't like it. For one thing, it kept on crashing my screen reading software which was and still is Jaws. The other thing is, you need sighted help to set up those blue tooth speaker systems. I like working independently of sighted help. My wife is sighted, but I won't call on her for help with my electronic equipment unless I really need to. But anyway, that's just me. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hmm, sounds a lot of trouble to go to when something like an Airport Express would probably cost you less and give you far clearer audio anyway but each to their own smile. I've just also remembered, I don't know about Winamp but Itunes has a Sound Check feature, this function keeps every song and so on at a preset level. DJ DOCTOR P wrote: Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4756 (20100109) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile
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To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You don't have to have a speaker here or speaker there in your words, you just connect the Airport express to a sound source, say the line in of a micro system or whatever and that's all there is to it, static free and noise free reception throughout your house and with Airfoil you can play any source you like to your Airport Express, computer or whatever anywhere. On 10/01/2010, at 2:24 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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That's incorrect, Airfoil does its streaming through Wi-Fi and has nothing whatever to do with Blue Tooth Speakers. You do not need sighted assistance to set Airfoil up nor do you need sighted assistance to set up your Airport Express. I can't comment on bluetooth speaker systems as I've never used them but I certainly can comment on Airport Express and Airfoil as I own both and I also run Airfoil from both a Windows and Mac machine. Airfoil has had several updates since a year ago so that may have fixed the problem with JAWS crashing. the only thing you'll need to do is assign some of the custom controls labels so you know what you're doing and I assume with JAWS you don't need sighted assistance for that smile. The first custom control you come to is the Test button, press this to stream the hijacked audio to your Windows default sound output. Press the Tab key and you come to the next Custom control which is the Remote Stream button, this is the button you press to stream to another computer, Airport Express, Iphone or whatever. There are other buttons but I think you have the idea so no, Airfoil, Airport Express and Airfoil speakers have absolutely nothing whatever to do with bluetooth. On 10/01/2010, at 1:54 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Dain, If you can see what you are doing, you can stream ITunes and Airfoil through a set of Blue Tooth speakers. But like I said, you need sighted help to set it up. And ITunes and Airfoil kept crashing Jaws. ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Speaking of transmitters and things I presently have a system where I have to use very long RCA to RCA cables connecting my Emagic sound card to my computer. I am talking about more or less ten meters. I now get some kind of ground hum because of the length of the cable. Is there some other way of transmitting high fidelity sound over long distance? I could perhaps rather try to lay a USB cable of the same length? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 January 2010 05:25 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 21:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Sound Solution is performing the compression for you. It is a sound compression plug in. On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Paul Hutson wrote: Well, I've had a C-crane FM transmitter since 2004 and I've had no problems with it giving me the same volume as other FM stations in my area. I am running Winamp with Sound Solutions, Octimax, (which are audio processing pluggins) and also using Station Playlist Studio as well and don't have this problem which you describe. Just my 2 cents worth...Paul - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 6:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 19:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Tom, I agree with you on that. It is way to much trouble for anyone to go through, especially if you can't see. Also, the thing about ITunes, is you have to have a peace of software that's called JTunes. And that's just to make ITunes blind user friendly. But most people don't have $1000 to spend on a peace of software that limits you to one application. Where is the since in that? The radio transmitter, is a way cheaper way to get your tunes from your computer to anywhere you may want to take it around your home. I have two transmitters. One on my computer, the other one on my satellite dish receiver. John - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Sorry but that is also incorrect. On 10/01/2010, at 3:22 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High Tom, I agree with you on that. It is way to much trouble for anyone to go through, especially if you can't see. Also, the thing about ITunes, is you have to have a peace of software that's called JTunes. And that's just to make ITunes blind user friendly. But most people don't have $1000 to spend on a peace of software that limits you to one application. Where is the since in that? The radio transmitter, is a way cheaper way to get your tunes from your computer to anywhere you may want to take it around your home. I have two transmitters. One on my computer, the other one on my satellite dish receiver. John - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hello André, You could use shielded audio cables. You are probably picking up the humming noise from your power cords. If that is the case, the shielded cables will remove that noise from the audio signal path. My best regards. John. PS. You may want to check in to plugging all of your equipment in to a power conditioner. - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: RE: C-Crane Transmitter Question Speaking of transmitters and things I presently have a system where I have to use very long RCA to RCA cables connecting my Emagic sound card to my computer. I am talking about more or less ten meters. I now get some kind of ground hum because of the length of the cable. Is there some other way of transmitting high fidelity sound over long distance? I could perhaps rather try to lay a USB cable of the same length? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 January 2010 05:25 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 21:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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John Thanx for this. I used ordinary cable used to make RCA to RCA commercial cables but I suppose that you are not supposed to run audio cables of this length anyway? The USB soundcard I am usin is the Imagic EMI 2/6. This was supposed to be a very high quality card in the early 2000s. But I do not know how it will compare with today's equipment. Hopefully not to bad! -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: 09 January 2010 06:37 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hello André, You could use shielded audio cables. You are probably picking up the humming noise from your power cords. If that is the case, the shielded cables will remove that noise from the audio signal path. My best regards. John. PS. You may want to check in to plugging all of your equipment in to a power conditioner. - Original Message - From: André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: RE: C-Crane Transmitter Question Speaking of transmitters and things I presently have a system where I have to use very long RCA to RCA cables connecting my Emagic sound card to my computer. I am talking about more or less ten meters. I now get some kind of ground hum because of the length of the cable. Is there some other way of transmitting high fidelity sound over long distance? I could perhaps rather try to lay a USB cable of the same length? Andre -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 January 2010 05:25 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question To John and Dane: this Airport thing sounds like it'd be more trouble; you've got to have a speaker here; a speaker there..I like how the transmitter works as far as just being able to turn on a radio..and you can hear the computer (I had thought it used to be louder)..but maybe not; also, often I have to turn the radio up loud enough to hear the thing I'm listening to..and get a bit of a hum! Oh well..I've lived with it all this time (got the transmitter in the Christmas of 04)..this amplifier thing that John talks about might be a thought; mainly wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is normal for this transmitter (I can make it as loud as the station should sound)..aw but then the s sounds sound distorted! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 21:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/09/10 09:35:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You want to back off the audio source that is going into the transmitter, as the LED is flashing off and on indicating that the transmitter is being overloaded. . - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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hik where can you get this booster from that you are using and how much does it cost? Casey- Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:23 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Okay..so in other words..I can back off the computer system's volume; then turn the transmitter up; is this how that works? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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You are going to have to tweak both the computer and the transmitter in order to get the optimum performance out of your transmitter without pushing the envelope. Just by making minor adjustments to the audio settings should keep you on track. If you hear the transmitter starting to distort, then that is an indication to back off the source a little. If you have to turn up the volume of your tuner that is OK. The analogy that I like to use is similar to taking water from a garden hose and trying to force it through a drinking straw. It won't work!!! A good source for low-power FM transmitters is http://www.fmamplifiers.com/ This company is in Canada, and the guy in question will build a transmitter to your specifications with switches and knobs that are easily identifiable for those without sight. These transmitters are a little pricey, but well worth the money. I recommended this site awhile back, and a number of blind peple ordered the low-power transmitter, and have nothing but praise for it. . . . PERFORMANCE FM-100MWS-LCD-E Digital PLL FM stereo transmitter ONLY $345 USD 12 Volt Power Supply Our New FM-100mW-LCD unit is ready to go and comes complete with a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply that works with 120 or 240 VAC sources. All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the back of the unit, and you are on the air! This NEW 100 milliwatt FM stereo transmitter will well out perform most of the low cost units on the market since it was carefully designed to pass even the very lowest audio frequencies down to 20 Hz and up to 15 KHz for the high frequencies. Believe me, this unit sounds just like the big stations! Excellent base and highs!!! Its highly accurate crystal reference and PLL circuitry ensure you will have a very stable signal at all times. The frequencies can easily be selected by pushing the recessed buttons using a paper clip wire. The frequency range is 88 to 108 MHz and the channel resolution is 100KHz. I should also mention that the stereo separation is excellent! We tested this unit against 4 other stereo unit that did not even come close. The unit is housed in a very nice extruded aluminum enclosure that shields the unit. No cheap plastic box used here! For more range a high gain antenna could be used and connected to the standard BNC connector on the back of the unit. If you are seriously looking for a high performance Stereo transmitter, this is definitely the one! Contact Information: Telephone 416-243-2260 416-243-2260 Fax 973-909-8447 Address Wavemach Communications 320 Dixon road, Suite 302 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M9R-1S8, buzzer code 131 E mail f...@fmamplifiers.com Contacto: Teléfono Para español por favor contáctenos por e-mail Fax 973-909-8447 Dirección Wavemach Communications 320 Dixon road, Suite 302 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M9R-1S8, buzzer code 131 E'mail f...@fmamplifiers.com - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Okay..so in other words..I can back off the computer system's volume; then turn the transmitter up; is this how that works? Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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High Kasey, You can pick those up at any high end stereo shop. They will cost somewhere in between $200 and $800 all depending on what kind you get. There are some that uses vacuum tubes, and quite a few that are ADA converters. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question hik where can you get this booster from that you are using and how much does it cost? Casey- Original Message - From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:23 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question Hello Tom and David, There is a quick fix for the problem you're having. The problem can be solved by putting a booster buffer amplifier between the transmitter and computer or whatever the audio source is. Set the volume on the transmitter to the 11:00 position, and set the gain on the booster buffer amplifier to 50% which is, half way up. Set the volume on the booster buffer amplifier to the 9:00 position, and there you are! This is how I have mine sat up, I don't have any problems at all since I done that. Hope this helps. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: David McLean david.mcl...@cox.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 7:20 AM Subject: Re: C-Crane Transmitter Question That is not uncommon for these transmitters. Professional fm stations have equipment to compress the sound before it gets to the transmitter which makes it louder than it would otherwise be. The C. Crane cannot possibly compete with that. On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
C-Crane Transmitter Question
Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hi! I've given up on transmitting FM around the house for the very reason which you've outlined, the transmitters just became too unreliable not to mention to many ocmputers and the like causing interference on the band - that may not be a problem for some people of course - so that's why I went the way of the Airport Express. just connect to a pair of speakers, a digital link to an amp, headphones or whatever and take the stream from your computer. Airport Express will work standard with Itunes or you can use Airfoil, this hijacks audio sources on your computer and streams them to the Airport express or any other computer using the Airfoil Speakers software which is free. You can use it as base station too! for all your wi-fi needs. http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/ Tom Kaufman wrote: Hello list: I have the C-Crane FM transmitter, which I use to hear what's on my computer when I'm not in the same room; I've noticed for a while now that..the volume that's coming through my radios isn't as loud as it should be; yet..if I make it louder by turning up the volume on the transmitter, then the light blinks, indicating that the volume is too loud; it also causes the sound on whatever radio I'm listening through to become a little distorted! Is this normal; in other words..is it normal to not quite get the same volume coming through the transmitter as what comes through any other FM station? Hopefully I am explaining this correctly! The sound card I'm running is an Audigy 2..if this is of any help! Thanks ahead of time. Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4755 (20100108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4755 (20100108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
