RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
Hi. No, I'm just using old venerable XP service pack 3 and 32 bit. The sound card is the extree audio. But I guess I'm stuck getting an outboard mixer or maybe changing files individually with something like Goldwave. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of D G Teed Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:08 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: > No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and > Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic > drivers. > Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email > from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today > I > googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely > nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, > but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone > listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching > in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my > concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs > product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a > company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are > thinking about buying Creative Labs. > I can't find the history of this thread where you say what product you are working with and what version of Windows you are running. Is it the 64 bit OS? Do you have 4MB of RAM or more? Also, which version of the drivers have you tried? Windows 7 is a big problem area for Creative right now. Have you tried the user forums at Creative Labs? --Donald To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4702 (20091219) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4702 (20091219) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4702 (20091219) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote: > No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and > Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic > drivers. > Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email > from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today > I > googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely > nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, > but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone > listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching > in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my > concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs > product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a > company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are > thinking about buying Creative Labs. > I can't find the history of this thread where you say what product you are working with and what version of Windows you are running. Is it the 64 bit OS? Do you have 4MB of RAM or more? Also, which version of the drivers have you tried? Windows 7 is a big problem area for Creative right now. Have you tried the user forums at Creative Labs? --Donald To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard
I've again been on the phone to Creative Labs and they say that there is no such thing as a "raad text on screen" option. I was further told', I might add in a rather hostile manor by the obviously non-American tech person, that this product was designed for the majority. I would ask that from her on we stop buying creative products as clearly they have no interest in addressing our needs. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave McElroy WA6BEF Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:47 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard Problem is I can't find any settings anywhere that would fit this bill. No menus, nothing! Just "entertainment mode and that's all she wrote. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:25 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with your stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with Jaws. You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have the card. First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you can run it if your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative audio update should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not you can do it manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, the problem may be the setting that says something like read text on screen. I can't remember where that setting is but its in there and before I checked it, I had the same problems you did. After I checked it, everything read perfectly. I'll continue to look for it and tell you where it is if I find it. This really is a quality card. Take care, Joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4663 (20091205) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4664 (20091206) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4665 (20091206) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4667 (20091207) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard
Problem is I can't find any settings anywhere that would fit this bill. No menus, nothing! Just "entertainment mode and that's all she wrote. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:25 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with your stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with Jaws. You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have the card. First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you can run it if your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative audio update should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not you can do it manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, the problem may be the setting that says something like read text on screen. I can't remember where that setting is but its in there and before I checked it, I had the same problems you did. After I checked it, everything read perfectly. I'll continue to look for it and tell you where it is if I find it. This really is a quality card. Take care, Joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4663 (20091205) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4664 (20091206) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
High Vicky, Email me off list, and I will tell you about my audio center pc. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:19 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Hoi, Would you tell us what your new audio PC has in hardware and software, that might be different from the average computer? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High Steeve, That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it. I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card in it. It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks mite help me to make this new computer do things my way. I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at it until I do. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Steve S" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Check out www.hotspotclicker.org It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the sound forge scripts, that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for you. Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with. It's an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. ----- Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
Thanks John. It's just that it would be so grate, if we could share any available methods of solving our computer difficulties. Vicky - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High Vicky, No, he was one of my instructors at the MTTL building in Daytona Beach which is where I learned about Windows in their early years. The cost to me, was free of charge. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours? If not, how did you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to learn Jaws script and write it for you? That's something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my finances . Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources! Vicky- Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message ----- From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. ----- Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking a
RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
If there is a real problem with the interface, how about a petition to Creative labs? The blind community has made people listen with other petitions. Judy -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Vaughan Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours? If not, how did you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to learn Jaws script and write it for you? That's something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my finances . Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources! Vicky- Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > High all list members, > In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. > Where there is a will, there is a way. > I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. > I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. > But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to > write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. > The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound > cards. > Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their > products, but that doesn't always happen. > This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to > find work arounds for us to use. > Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. > My best regards to you all! > John. > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM > Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > > >> Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Sunshine >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. >> >> yes they do work. >> I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the >> controls. to change things. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM >> Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. >> >> >> Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our >> money somehow less good than anybody elses? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Sunshine >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. >> >> dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you >> have >> had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try >> and >> get others to switch away from something that works for them. >> while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time >> depending >> >> on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts >> of >> >> the creative product you have. >> anyone want to comment on that one. >> not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM >> Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. >> >> >> No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and >> Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic >> drivers. >> Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email >> from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so >> today I >> googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely >> nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose >> area, >> but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone >> listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just star
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
High Vicky, No, he was one of my instructors at the MTTL building in Daytona Beach which is where I learned about Windows in their early years. The cost to me, was free of charge. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours? If not, how did you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to learn Jaws script and write it for you? That's something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my finances . Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources! Vicky- Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a b
Re: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard
Joe, the card i have is the x-fi extream audio. would this setting you are talking about be in the same place? i use jaws and window eyes. please let us know where to find this option thanks - Original Message - From: "Joe" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with your stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with Jaws. You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have the card. First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you can run it if your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative audio update should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not you can do it manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, the problem may be the setting that says something like read text on screen. I can't remember where that setting is but its in there and before I checked it, I had the same problems you did. After I checked it, everything read perfectly. I'll continue to look for it and tell you where it is if I find it. This really is a quality card. Take care, Joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Hoi, Would you tell us what your new audio PC has in hardware and software, that might be different from the average computer? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High Steeve, That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it. I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card in it. It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks mite help me to make this new computer do things my way. I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at it until I do. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Steve S" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Check out www.hotspotclicker.org It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the sound forge scripts, that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for you. Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with. It's an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone list
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Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours? If not, how did you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to learn Jaws script and write it for you? That's something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my finances . Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources! Vicky- Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message ----- From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
continuing saga of creative labs soundcard
Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with your stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with Jaws. You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have the card. First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you can run it if your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative audio update should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not you can do it manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, the problem may be the setting that says something like read text on screen. I can't remember where that setting is but its in there and before I checked it, I had the same problems you did. After I checked it, everything read perfectly. I'll continue to look for it and tell you where it is if I find it. This really is a quality card. Take care, Joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
HI, YOU CAN CREATE A NEW USER THEN THINGS MIGHT WORK. Brian - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High Steeve, That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it. I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card in it. It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks mite help me to make this new computer do things my way. I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at it until I do. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Steve S" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Check out www.hotspotclicker.org It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the sound forge scripts, that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for you. Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with. It's an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
High Steeve, That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it. I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card in it. It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks mite help me to make this new computer do things my way. I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at it until I do. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Steve S" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Check out www.hotspotclicker.org It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the sound forge scripts, that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for you. Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with. It's an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reco
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
Check out www.hotspotclicker.org It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the sound forge scripts, that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for you. Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with. It's an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Again, you're saying that my/our money isn't as good as the next persons. If you'd bother to Google, you'd see that I am not the only person having problems with Creative. As of now they appear to be a derelict company. So far we've had one person claiming that her product works but she wwill not offer us the steps she takes to make it so, which in my estimation means that she may very possibly be fabricating. Then we have somebody else saying essentially that "there must be a solution." I have a right to warn people against buying what for us as blind people may in fact be garbage. If you don't like it, throw me off the list. I've spen three solid days trying to find a workaround. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Sunshine > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > > yes they do work. > I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the > controls. to change things. > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM > Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > > > Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our > money somehow less good than anybody elses? > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Sunshine > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > > dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you > have > had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and > get others to switch away from something that works for them. > while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time > depending > > on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts > of > > the creative product you have. > anyone want to comment on that one. > not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. > > - Original Message - > From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM > Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. > > > No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and > Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic > drivers. > Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email > from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today > I > googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely > nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose > area, > but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone > listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started > punching > in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed > my > concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs > product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a > company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are > thinking about
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
High all list members, In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't. Where there is a will, there is a way. I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it. I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1. But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do. The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound cards. Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their products, but that doesn't always happen. This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to find work arounds for us to use. Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem. My best regards to you all! John. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
Ok, how? Seriously, I'm listening. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
yes they do work. I use he creative card you use and i have no problem getting into the controls. to change things. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling? Is our money somehow less good than anybody elses? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you have had trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you should try and get others to switch away from something that works for them. while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time depending on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the parts of the creative product you have. anyone want to comment on that one. not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something. - Original Message - From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs. No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
No, I have not made any progress. I unloaded all things soundblaster and Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic drivers. Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls. Pam sent an email from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so today I googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely nowhere. I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose area, but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone listening to it ring for probably half an hour. So I just started punching in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna. I expressed my concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs product. Will I get a return call? Probably not. Clearly, this is a company that does not deserve our patronage. Please reconsider if you are thinking about buying Creative Labs. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
