RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-27 Thread David Truong
HI,

Audio pipeline means that Sam will take the audio data straight from the
particular program you are using to stream your audio.  So if it is winamp
then Sam will take the data straight from winamp itself.  If it is ots DJ
then Sam will take the audio data from that program.  Let me put it another
way, if you had winamp set to use the null output plugin and you had Sam
configured to use the audio pipeline, sam would still stream the data out to
the shoutcast server even if you didn't have a sound card installed.  Sure
you wouldn't hear any audio on your pc but you would hear the audio on
another computer if you logged onto the server you are streaming to and
assuming that other computer has an actual sound card installed smile.

If you have Sam configured to sound card then guess what, Sam will take the
audio data from whatever sound card you choose.  In other words, Sam will
broadcast whatever audio you input into your sound card.  It is all pretty
straight forward really!


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Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry guys.

I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both 
interfaces.
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that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
 would I need pipeline?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
 previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
 text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
 thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
 before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
 menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
 you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
 from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
 the particular card you're using.

 Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
 friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
 internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
 one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
 get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
 friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:

 http://rock.audio-stream.net
  You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
 your friends would be
 http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
 notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
 Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
 remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
 don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
 amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
 never used it so I can't say.







 At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
server and it plays PLS and all files the same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
me some trouble in the past.

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RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-27 Thread David Truong
HI Chris,

This is not strictly true.  If the program in question can get mic input
directed to go through the program's audio pipeline then you can have music
and voice breaks using a mic being streamed through the sam Audio pipeline.
Remember I said in my previous message that Sam's audio pipeline takes the
audio data from the actual program you are streaming from.  So if the actual
program you are streaming from such as Winamp or Ots DJ is able to have
voice breaks from a microphone or mixer along with music redirected through
Winamp or OTS DJ itself then Sam's audio pipeline will stream it to a
server.  I have broadcasted with both Winamp and OTS DJ setups.




David Truong

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Skype:  blindboxer1967

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:55 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In 

Audio Pipeline is just for music. So if you're going to be only 
broadcasting music and no talking, Audio pipeline is what to use.

At 02:48 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry
guys.
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both
interfaces.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

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From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


  question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
  would I need pipeline?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In
 
 
  hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
  previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
  text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
  thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
  before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
  menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
  you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
  from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
  the particular card you're using.
 
  Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
  friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
  internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
  one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
  get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
  friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:
 
  http://rock.audio-stream.net
   You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
  your friends would be
  http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
  notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
  Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
  remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
  don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
  amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
  never used it so I can't say.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
 followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
 re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
 its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
 South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
 the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.
 
 Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
 top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
 played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
 open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
 broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
 server and it plays PLS and all files the same.
 
 Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.
 
 Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
 Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
 me some trouble in the past.
 
 James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-27 Thread kerry
David,
How do you get audio pip line dericted to the mike?
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From: David Truong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 HI Chris,

 This is not strictly true.  If the program in question can get mic input
 directed to go through the program's audio pipeline then you can have 
 music
 and voice breaks using a mic being streamed through the sam Audio 
 pipeline.
 Remember I said in my previous message that Sam's audio pipeline takes the
 audio data from the actual program you are streaming from.  So if the 
 actual
 program you are streaming from such as Winamp or Ots DJ is able to have
 voice breaks from a microphone or mixer along with music redirected 
 through
 Winamp or OTS DJ itself then Sam's audio pipeline will stream it to a
 server.  I have broadcasted with both Winamp and OTS DJ setups.




 David Truong

 E-mail and MS messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Skype:  blindboxer1967

 Home Page:  http://members.optusnet.com.au/davidtruong/
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:55 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

 Audio Pipeline is just for music. So if you're going to be only
 broadcasting music and no talking, Audio pipeline is what to use.

 At 02:48 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry
 guys.
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both
interfaces.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message -
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


  question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
  would I need pipeline?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In
 
 
  hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
  previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
  text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
  thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
  before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
  menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
  you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
  from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
  the particular card you're using.
 
  Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
  friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
  internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
  one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
  get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
  friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:
 
  http://rock.audio-stream.net
   You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
  your friends would be
  http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
  notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
  Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
  remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
  don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
  amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
  never used it so I can't say.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
 followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
 re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
 its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
 South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
 the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.
 
 Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
 top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
 played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
 open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
 broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
 server and it plays PLS and all files the same.
 
 Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.
 
 Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
 Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media

RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-27 Thread David Truong
Hi,

It depends what program you are asking about.  With Winamp, you have to have
two instances running to be able to get both music and the mic redirected
through Winamp and then to Sam Audio Pipeline.  The advantage with this
approach is that you can get the various dsp plugins to insure that your mic
gets included when these plugins do their compression etc.




David Truong

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On Behalf Of kerry
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:23 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

David,
How do you get audio pip line dericted to the mike?
- Original Message - 
From: David Truong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 HI Chris,

 This is not strictly true.  If the program in question can get mic input
 directed to go through the program's audio pipeline then you can have 
 music
 and voice breaks using a mic being streamed through the sam Audio 
 pipeline.
 Remember I said in my previous message that Sam's audio pipeline takes the
 audio data from the actual program you are streaming from.  So if the 
 actual
 program you are streaming from such as Winamp or Ots DJ is able to have
 voice breaks from a microphone or mixer along with music redirected 
 through
 Winamp or OTS DJ itself then Sam's audio pipeline will stream it to a
 server.  I have broadcasted with both Winamp and OTS DJ setups.




 David Truong

 E-mail and MS messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Skype:  blindboxer1967

 Home Page:  http://members.optusnet.com.au/davidtruong/
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
 Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:55 AM
 To: PC audio discussion list.
 Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

 Audio Pipeline is just for music. So if you're going to be only
 broadcasting music and no talking, Audio pipeline is what to use.

 At 02:48 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry
 guys.
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both
interfaces.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message -
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


  question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
  would I need pipeline?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In
 
 
  hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
  previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
  text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
  thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
  before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
  menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
  you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
  from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
  the particular card you're using.
 
  Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
  friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
  internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
  one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
  get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
  friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:
 
  http://rock.audio-stream.net
   You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
  your friends would be
  http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
  notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
  Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
  remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
  don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
  amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
  never used it so I can't say.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
 followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
 re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
 its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my

Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-26 Thread Chris Skarstad
Well it make sense really.  The audio pipeline in the sam encoders 
*only* broadcasts music.  So even if you use software speech, and it 
came through nobody would hear it.
So if you selected your sound card, people would hear anything coming 
through that, if you had what you hear, or stereo mix enabled.


At 03:18 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok! I'm not getting this. Maybe my brain is stubbern. How can yoru speach
not be picked up if you are using stereo mix on our sound card and pipeline
in sam encoders? sorry. I'm a bit frostrated right now. I will get this.

SA
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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


Hi.

I use the audio pipeline with the SAM encoder, because I use software
speech, and I believe that it would be broadcast if I used my sound card.

Kevin Minor
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Sarah
Try playing the songs through winamp instead. Maybe that might help.
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Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I followed 
your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and re-installed this plug-in 
several times; yet it seems to be trying its best to frustrate me.  I had my 
friend try my station down in South Carolina; I'm in California; he could 
get the link, but only the text info about the song through Real Player--no 
sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a top. 
Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files played through 
Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I open up my web site, it 
is played through Real player.  I am broadcasting with winamp.  I have the 
same thing with the shoutcast server and it plays PLS and all files the 
same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media Edition.  I am 
using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused me some trouble in the 
past.

James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Skarstad
hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist 
previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a 
text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more 
thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did 
before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub 
menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if 
you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements 
from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to 
the particular card you're using.

Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to 
friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of 
internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with 
one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and 
get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your 
friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:

http://rock.audio-stream.net
  You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to 
your friends would be
http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work, 
remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so 
don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that 
amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I 
never used it so I can't say.







At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I 
followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and 
re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying 
its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in 
South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only 
the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a 
top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files 
played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I 
open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am 
broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast 
server and it plays PLS and all files the same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media 
Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused 
me some trouble in the past.

James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Sarah
question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when 
would I need pipeline?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
the particular card you're using.

Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:

http://rock.audio-stream.net
  You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
your friends would be
http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
never used it so I can't say.







At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
server and it plays PLS and all files the same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
me some trouble in the past.

James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Richard Claypool
that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It 
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
 would I need pipeline?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
 previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
 text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
 thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
 before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
 menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
 you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
 from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
 the particular card you're using.

 Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
 friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
 internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
 one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
 get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
 friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:

 http://rock.audio-stream.net
  You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
 your friends would be
 http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
 notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
 Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
 remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
 don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
 amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
 never used it so I can't say.







 At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
server and it plays PLS and all files the same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
me some trouble in the past.

James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Sarah
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry guys. 
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both 
interfaces.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
 would I need pipeline?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


 hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
 previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
 text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
 thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
 before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
 menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
 you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
 from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
 the particular card you're using.

 Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
 friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
 internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
 one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
 get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
 friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:

 http://rock.audio-stream.net
  You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
 your friends would be
 http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
 notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
 Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
 remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
 don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
 amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
 never used it so I can't say.







 At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Hello List!

Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.

Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
server and it plays PLS and all files the same.

Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.

Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
me some trouble in the past.

James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Chris Skarstad
Audio Pipeline is just for music. So if you're going to be only 
broadcasting music and no talking, Audio pipeline is what to use.

At 02:48 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry guys.
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both
interfaces.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message -
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


  question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
  would I need pipeline?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In
 
 
  hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
  previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
  text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
  thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
  before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
  menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
  you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
  from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
  the particular card you're using.
 
  Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
  friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
  internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
  one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
  get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
  friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:
 
  http://rock.audio-stream.net
   You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
  your friends would be
  http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
  notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
  Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
  remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
  don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
  amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
  never used it so I can't say.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
 followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
 re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
 its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
 South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
 the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.
 
 Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
 top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
 played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
 open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
 broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
 server and it plays PLS and all files the same.
 
 Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.
 
 Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
 Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
 me some trouble in the past.
 
 James Robinson
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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Sarah
Then how will it  knwo what soundcard to use ifyou've got 3 or more plugged 
in?
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


Audio Pipeline is just for music. So if you're going to be only
broadcasting music and no talking, Audio pipeline is what to use.

At 02:48 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Ok. I'm still lost. Can someone give me an example or something? Worry 
guys.
I've only ben broadcating for about a year now and have used both
interfaces.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Claypool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


that would be I think if you're going to broadcast voice and music.  It
creates a pipeline.

Rick

- Original Message -
From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In


  question. what is audio pipeline? I usualy check my sound card but when
  would I need pipeline?
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In
 
 
  hi.  Well, you don't play pls files unless you've built a playlist
  previously and are using that.  Really, all a playlist is, is just a
  text document that references the songs.  Let's try one more
  thing.  Open the sam encoders, and then right clik like you did
  before.  Now, arrow down to where it says, sound card sub
  menu.  There is a setting in there that says audio pipeline.  if
  you're going to be doing live broadcasts, with both announcements
  from your microphone and music, you'll want to point the plugin to
  the particular card you're using.
 
  Also, it matters how you give the link to your station to
  friends.  Remember, you'll need to give your friend some kind of
  internet address such as your IP address, or better yet, sign up with
  one of the free domain hosting sites like http://www.no-ip.com and
  get yourself a free domain so that you can give that address to your
  friend.  So for example, you could get an address such as:
 
  http://rock.audio-stream.net
   You're on port 8000 most likely, so the address you would give to
  your friends would be
  http://rock.audio-stream.net:8000
  notice the colon followed by 8000 at the end.
  Now if you do all this and the Sam Encoders still don't work,
  remember Spacial Audio does provide tech support for its products, so
  don't hesitate to go to them for help if you need it.  For that
  amount of money I would hope the tech support is somewhat decent. I
  never used it so I can't say.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  At 01:22 AM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 Thanks for your tutorials and info on Sam Encoders.  You know I
 followed your steps and have installed, uninstalled, and
 re-installed this plug-in several times; yet it seems to be trying
 its best to frustrate me.  I had my friend try my station down in
 South Carolina; I'm in California; he could get the link, but only
 the text info about the song through Real Player--no sound at all.
 
 Yet, when I fired up my shoutcast plug-in, the station works like a
 top.  Maybe this is a problem.  I have my MP3, M3u and PLS files
 played through Real Player.  Could this be a problem, as whenever I
 open up my web site, it is played through Real player.  I am
 broadcasting with winamp.  I have the same thing with the shoutcast
 server and it plays PLS and all files the same.
 
 Could I be setting something up wrong.  Everything sounds the same.
 
 Maybe it's my system.  It's a Sony vios, with Windows Media
 Edition.  I am using JAWS 51 still.  This media edition has caused
 me some trouble in the past.
 
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RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

I use the audio pipeline with the SAM encoder, because I use software
speech, and I believe that it would be broadcast if I used my sound card.

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Re: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Sarah
Ok! I'm not getting this. Maybe my brain is stubbern. How can yoru speach 
not be picked up if you are using stereo mix on our sound card and pipeline 
in sam encoders? sorry. I'm a bit frostrated right now. I will get this.

SA
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Hi.

I use the audio pipeline with the SAM encoder, because I use software
speech, and I believe that it would be broadcast if I used my sound card.

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RE: Sam Encoders VS Shoutcast Plug-In

2006-08-25 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

I don't use the what you hear option.  I use OTS DJ to broadcast, and it
uses its own sound scheme that doesn't broadcast the software speech.

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