Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread John Hodgson
If the Zen Stone can only be recharged via the USB port.. .this
shouldn't pose too much of a problem as you can get A C adapters that
allow you plug a USB connection in, so you can charge it that way. Just
like the way I pods are charged.

John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/07 03:29 
Bruce, you wrote:

 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way
of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not
too
expensive either.

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Are the T50 and T60 from iRiver accessible? [was Re: Creative Zen Stone Player]

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Has a blind person used or had any experience with the iRiver T50 or the 
iRiver T60? If so, how accessible did you find them? From the review 
posted at http://www.pocketables.net/2007/05/review_iriver_t.html, I 
read the following, which makes me wonder how accessible these players 
are. The reference to a joy stick and a GUI, even though they say it's 
straightforward, give me pause. It does appear that you can just use 
Windows Explorer to transfer music, but you may have to use the PC 
software to switch between MTP and UMS mode. That doesn't seem like a 
big deal, but I wonder if the PC software is accessible with a screen 
reader or not.

Controls

Navigation on both players is primarily handled by a small joystick on 
the right side of the display

The joystick is unrestricted in its movement and easy to use, but it's a 
bit wobbly. This makes selecting various options tricky because pressing 
the center of the joystick straight down requires actual precision. You 
can't just push the center and expect the system to recognize it as an 
OK or Enter command. More often than not, tapping the center of the 
joystick pushes it slightly to the left, which rewinds a track or takes 
you to the previous menu option.

Navigation would be more accurate if the joystick's movements were 
limited to just four directions (up, down, left, right).

Graphical user interface

The T50 and T60 are equipped with yet another GUI not found on any other 
recent iriver DAP (it's the same one used on the older T10).

All that nonsense aside, the T50 and T60's GUI is self-explanatory and 
easy to use. The main menu is colorful and cute, but the rest of the 
system isn't really anything to look at.

It's all very file-tree and Windows Explorer: plain but functional.

Transferring content

The T50 and T60 can be formatted to support MTP or UMS/MSC for 
transferring media with or without the use of software. Drag-and-drop 
via Windows Explorer can be done in either mode, but other differences 
exist to make choosing between one or the other pretty crucial.

Switching between the two modes requires the use of the supplied Cross 
Updater software and also deletes all of the content, so it's easier to 
just choose one and stick to it forever.

Keep in mind that you need MSC/UMS to:
• Use iriver plus 3
• Supposedly playback podcasts (not sure why iriver says this, as most 
podcasts are in MP3 format)
And you need MTP to:
• Use Windows Media Player 11 and other music management software
• Playback Audible content

Michael Lang wrote:
 Bruce, you wrote:

   
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 

 Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
 and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
 expensive either.

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
to recharge the portable device ...

Bruce
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

tj
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
But with the Zen stone, you don't have to use annoying transfer software. 
You can just copy and paste from windows explorer.
Allison

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 the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

 tj
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 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread TIM GRADY
He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
Bruce
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:00:27 -0400, TIM GRADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player
 
 
  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
  
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
  
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
  
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

I see the BP and Zen Stone as serving completely different purposes rather 
than two products competing in the same market so it's more likely that 
you'd want both rather than one or the other.  I don't have a BP and haven't 
seenit's specs but I'd be very surprised if it had a great spec for playing 
music when you consider it's main purpose in life is to play the spoken 
word.

The zen stone on the other hand is primarily a music player designed and 
built to provide the best playback quality possible in the tiniest size to 
compete with apple's products.  It has a frequency range of 20 hz to 20 Khz 
whereas typically, players like the olympus ds50, milestone  and I'd imagine 
the BP will only cover 50 hz to 19 Khz.

The zen stone battery life is approx 10 hours on a full charge and it would 
of course be ridiculous to assume you'd need to take a laptop with you to 
recharge.  These types of players always come with an adaptor to charge from 
mains and these can be hhad very cheaply.

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
 purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
 Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
 I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
 I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:00:27 -0400, TIM GRADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be 
  the
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Don Ball
you know we don't know how long it  takes to charge the thing up. It could 
take as little as 15 minutes. It will surely take no longer than 1 hour.
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Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
Don't quote me on this but if i'm not mistaken its possible to buy usb to 
standard outlet adapters

tj
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Lang
Bruce, you wrote:

 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
expensive either.

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-06 Thread Jeff Samco
As an alternative, aren't there battery charging units that plug into 
a USB port? Power comes from loading batteries into the charging 
unit. That way one could use rechargeable NiMH type batteries to 
easily fuel the portable charger. Am I assuming correctly about this?
Jeff


At 07:29 PM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
Bruce, you wrote:

  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
expensive either.

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