question plextalk/book port plus

2014-06-17 Thread Sunshine
has anyone experienced theis problem when either using an external 
microphone/ microphone headset combo/internal microphone where when 
recording there is great amounts of static/crackle?
my plextalk pocket is on the 6.0 firmware and the book port plus is on 
the 4.2 firmware both units exibit this behavior if this has happened to 
you could you let me know how to fix this if there is a way to fix it?


thanks.





Re: question plextalk/book port plus

2014-06-17 Thread Kelly Pierce
this often happens to me when the cables are being moved around.  When
the cables are still, I find no static.  Be sure that the end of each
cable is not being moved during recording.

Kelly



On 6/17/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 has anyone experienced theis problem when either using an external
 microphone/ microphone headset combo/internal microphone where when
 recording there is great amounts of static/crackle?
 my plextalk pocket is on the 6.0 firmware and the book port plus is on
 the 4.2 firmware both units exibit this behavior if this has happened to
 you could you let me know how to fix this if there is a way to fix it?

 thanks.







Re: question plextalk/book port plus

2014-06-17 Thread Sunshine

Kelly, i have insured this and no go still static what can be done about it?
On 6/17/2014 5:13 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

this often happens to me when the cables are being moved around.  When
the cables are still, I find no static.  Be sure that the end of each
cable is not being moved during recording.

Kelly



On 6/17/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

has anyone experienced theis problem when either using an external
microphone/ microphone headset combo/internal microphone where when
recording there is great amounts of static/crackle?
my plextalk pocket is on the 6.0 firmware and the book port plus is on
the 4.2 firmware both units exibit this behavior if this has happened to
you could you let me know how to fix this if there is a way to fix it?

thanks.














Re: question plextalk/book port plus

2014-06-17 Thread Sunshine
and no go on the holding the cables stable either still get the crackle 
or what ever it is would you want a recording to show what i am talking 
about?

On 6/17/2014 8:25 AM, Sunshine wrote:
Kelly, i have insured this and no go still static what can be done 
about it?

On 6/17/2014 5:13 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

this often happens to me when the cables are being moved around.  When
the cables are still, I find no static.  Be sure that the end of each
cable is not being moved during recording.

Kelly



On 6/17/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:

has anyone experienced theis problem when either using an external
microphone/ microphone headset combo/internal microphone where when
recording there is great amounts of static/crackle?
my plextalk pocket is on the 6.0 firmware and the book port plus is on
the 4.2 firmware both units exibit this behavior if this has 
happened to

you could you let me know how to fix this if there is a way to fix it?

thanks.





















Re: question plextalk/book port plus

2014-06-17 Thread Kelly Pierce
Thanks for the update.  Unfortunately, I have no more suggestions. I
haven't encountered this problem before except when cables are bumped.
I keep a roll of painter's tape with me to prevent this from
happening.  I have been able to create high quality recordings with my
Book Port that have been broadcast on radio.

Kelly



On 6/17/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 and no go on the holding the cables stable either still get the crackle
 or what ever it is would you want a recording to show what i am talking
 about?
 On 6/17/2014 8:25 AM, Sunshine wrote:
 Kelly, i have insured this and no go still static what can be done
 about it?
 On 6/17/2014 5:13 AM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
 this often happens to me when the cables are being moved around.  When
 the cables are still, I find no static.  Be sure that the end of each
 cable is not being moved during recording.

 Kelly



 On 6/17/14, Sunshine sunsh...@abe.midco.net wrote:
 has anyone experienced theis problem when either using an external
 microphone/ microphone headset combo/internal microphone where when
 recording there is great amounts of static/crackle?
 my plextalk pocket is on the 6.0 firmware and the book port plus is on
 the 4.2 firmware both units exibit this behavior if this has
 happened to
 you could you let me know how to fix this if there is a way to fix it?

 thanks.




















Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-25 Thread Vinny Samarco

Jamie,
Will this program be archived?  I hope so, since I won't be available to 
hear the original.

Thanks.  Vinny
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No
iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and
doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book
Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files
will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have
forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that
you will hear in the presentation. Hth
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


ill this play nls books
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-25 Thread Jamie Pauls
Absolutely. I will let you know when the archive is up although I don't 
announce that on this list every week. Thanks.
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Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Jamie,
Will this program be archived?  I hope so, since I won't be available to
hear the original.
Thanks.  Vinny
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No
iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and
doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book
Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files
will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have
forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that
you will hear in the presentation. Hth
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From: hank smith hanksmi...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


ill this play nls books
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From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
in the U.S.
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Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread Jamie Pauls


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From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread hank smith

ill this play nls books
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Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread Colin r . Howard
Greetings,

I suggest listen to Main Menu and find out just as the rest of us will need
to.  No point in asking questions as the message clearly states the program
will release information about this new device.


From Colin Howard who  lives near Southampton in 
Southern England.

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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread Jamie Pauls
It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No 
iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and 
doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book 
Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files 
will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have 
forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that 
you will hear in the presentation. Hth
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


ill this play nls books
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread hank smith

I hope it is cheap
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It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No
iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and
doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book
Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files
will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have
forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that
you will hear in the presentation. Hth
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


ill this play nls books
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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From: Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@sbcglobal.net

To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu

2010-02-23 Thread Jamie Pauls

In recent interviews Larry says they hope to price it in the mid 300s.
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I hope it is cheap
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


It will play NLS, RFBD, Audible books, MP3, Wav, Wma, and Ogg files. No
iTunes format files yet and no DRM protected WMA files. It will read txt and
doc files. Docx is coming. The Book Transfer software that comes with Book
Port Plus will handle brf files by translating them to txt but the files
will be handled natively by the unit later. I'm not sure what I have
forgotten and believe it or not I haven't given away all the good stuff that
you will hear in the presentation. Hth
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


ill this play nls books
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: Fw: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu



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To: annou...@acbradio.org; frie...@acbradio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: [Announce] Book Port Plus on this week's Main Menu


Coming up on Main Menu for February 27, 2010:
This week we present a Main Menu exclusive! Larry Skutchan of The American
Printing House for the Blind discusses and demonstrates some features of
Book Port Plus, a new product from APH due for release some time in March.
Larry talks about the philosophy behind the design of the product, giving us
a glimpse into the decision-making process. He talks about why some features
are present in the unit, why some features are not yet present, and what we
can expect to see in subsequent updates to the product. Why did APH choose
Vocalizer as the text to speech engine of choice? Why not Eloquence? Is
there a possibility that another text-to-speech engine might be used in the
future? What does APH plan to do with the wireless capabilities of the unit?
Could we actually be able to listen to Internet radio from a Book Port Plus?
How does one navigate menus and change settings on the unit? There is no way
to provide a tutorial on how to use Book Port Plus in just 53 minutes, but I
think Main Menu listeners will find Larry's examples and insights most
fascinating.
Main Menu airs on Saturdays at 1:00 UTC; that’s Fridays at 8:00 Eastern time
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where's the new Book Port ?

2007-09-02 Thread Bobcat
I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port.  Wasn't it 
scheduled to come out this summer?  Has anyone heard any recent updates?

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Re: where's the new Book Port ?

2007-09-02 Thread Dave McLean
I haven't heard anything about the Icon Braille Plus either.  The only 
reference to it I can find is a forum where a few people seem to discuss it. 
Both seem to be very low profile for some reason.

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I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port.  Wasn't it
 scheduled to come out this summer?  Has anyone heard any recent updates?

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Re: where's the new Book Port ?

2007-09-02 Thread Rick Harmon
Probably not till next year.  They didn't have a proto type as of last month 
yet.

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I haven't heard anything in months about the new Book Port.  Wasn't it
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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Dean Martineau
Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book 
Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and 
features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book 
Courier does not have this focus.

4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and 
other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't 
believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound files.

5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of 
the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to 
Courier users and not to Book Port users.

I love my Book Port.

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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Dean:

Can stereo MP3 files be played on the Book Port.  If so, how is the quality?

Thanks all over the place.


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From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

 Dean


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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Bruce Toews
They can, but it should be noted that the two stereo channels are 
reversed.

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On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

 Hi Dean:

 Can stereo MP3 files be played on the Book Port.  If so, how is the quality?

 Thanks all over the place.


 - Original Message -
 From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Bruce Toews
The quality of the playback is fantastic.

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 Hi Bruce:

 How is the quality of the playback?

 Thanks much.


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 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 They can, but it should be noted that the two stereo channels are
 reversed.

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 On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

 Hi Dean:

 Can stereo MP3 files be played on the Book Port.  If so, how is the
 quality?

 Thanks all over the place.


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 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound
 files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Bruce:

How is the quality of the playback?

Thanks much.


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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 They can, but it should be noted that the two stereo channels are
 reversed.

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 On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

 Hi Dean:

 Can stereo MP3 files be played on the Book Port.  If so, how is the 
 quality?

 Thanks all over the place.


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 From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound 
 files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Dean Martineau
I'm not a good judge of sound quality, as I have never trained my ear 
to be too discriminating, but I believe the quality is good.

Dean


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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread DOC
If having a braille notetaker is helpful to you then its the bookport you
want.  I don't think the book courier has this feature.
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Subject: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi listers,  I've been doing quite a bit of reading on the Book Port
 and BookCourier, trying to decide which one to buy.  To me, it seems
 these units are virtually identical, except for the price.  So I
 guess I'm looking for feedback to help me in making my decision.  Thanks,
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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread DOC
the quality is very good.
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi Dean:

 Can stereo MP3 files be played on the Book Port.  If so, how is the
quality?

 Thanks all over the place.


 - Original Message -
 From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


  Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:
 
  1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.
 
  2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
  Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.
 
  3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
  features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
  Courier does not have this focus.
 
  4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
  other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
  believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound
files.
 
  5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
  the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
  Courier users and not to Book Port users.
 
  I love my Book Port.
 
  Dean
 
 
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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi Dean,
I looked at the bookport at www.aph.org, and I had a couple of questions.
It says the unit is small, but could you possibly give the measurements to 
give me a better idea?
It says it can read plain txt files that you load onto the unit.  Is the 
voice included with the unit a good sounding one?
And do you know the size of the flash card that comes with the unit?
Just wondering, and it does sound like a really nice unit!
Thanks,
Chris

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From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

 Dean


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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread Bruce Toews
It's about three by five by 1 inches; the voice is DoubleTalk; and you get 
a 256MB flash card with the unit, but it will accept flash cards of up to 
4GB.

Bruce

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On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Chris Chaffin wrote:

 Hi Dean,
 I looked at the bookport at www.aph.org, and I had a couple of questions.
 It says the unit is small, but could you possibly give the measurements to
 give me a better idea?
 It says it can read plain txt files that you load onto the unit.  Is the
 voice included with the unit a good sounding one?
 And do you know the size of the flash card that comes with the unit?
 Just wondering, and it does sound like a really nice unit!
 Thanks,
 Chris

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 From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:

 1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.

 2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
 Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.

 3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
 features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
 Courier does not have this focus.

 4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
 other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
 believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound files.

 5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
 the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
 Courier users and not to Book Port users.

 I love my Book Port.

 Dean


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Re: Book Port or BookCourier?

2006-03-03 Thread DOC
bookport demensions
inches: 4x2x0.5
the flash card is 256mb
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From: Chris Chaffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


 Hi Dean,
 I looked at the bookport at www.aph.org, and I had a couple of questions.
 It says the unit is small, but could you possibly give the measurements to
 give me a better idea?
 It says it can read plain txt files that you load onto the unit.  Is the
 voice included with the unit a good sounding one?
 And do you know the size of the flash card that comes with the unit?
 Just wondering, and it does sound like a really nice unit!
 Thanks,
 Chris

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 From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Book Port or BookCourier?


  Hi.  Here are some thoughts regarding these two devices:
 
  1.  Book Port plays books from RFBD, Book Courier does not.
 
  2.  Bok Port is a little more complicated.   On the flip side, Book
  Port has capabilities to process text that Courier does not have.
 
  3.   Book Port is well supported by American Printing House and
  features of use to the blind are incorporated fairly quickly.  Book
  Courier does not have this focus.
 
  4.  I believe book Port has capabilities for playing podcasts and
  other unindexed mp3 files that Courier does not have.  I don't
  believe Courier has any facility for speeding up playback of sound
files.
 
  5.  the designers of Book Courier have formatted a couple versions of
  the Bible for easy playback in the unit.  These are apparently to
  Courier users and not to Book Port users.
 
  I love my Book Port.
 
  Dean
 
 
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Re: book port

2006-01-16 Thread doc
thanks everyone for the help.
When you give unto others
whether or not they give to you in return, It   matters not for your job is
Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
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 The bookport will do a lot of things useful to study, and is very
portable.
 go to the APH site and find the bookport in their products.  You can read
a
 summary of what it will do.  And you can download the manual in html or
 audio.  This will give you a good idea about it and how it works.  Also,
the
 Blind Cool Tech podcast has several helpful tutorials on it.
 www.aph.org

 www.blindcooltech.com/

 On the blind cool tech site, go to the bottom of the page and work your
way
 up through the list of downloadable podcasts to find the bookport
podcasts.
 They are mp3's.
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Re: book port

2006-01-16 Thread ALGAYZAG
I think the BookPort is one of the best devices to come along in a long 
time, depending, of course, on what you want to use it for.
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Re: book port

2006-01-16 Thread Charles Reichardt
Hello.

When I go to blindcooltech and choose a link and hit entr on it the link 
doesn't open. JFW counts up to approimately 40% and then nothing else 
happens.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: book port

2006-01-15 Thread Bruce Toews
Wonderful machine. For the money, probably one of the most versatile units 
you can get. And the Book Port list on Freelists is run by APH, who make 
the unit, and is a great resource.

Bruce

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 My rehab counselor is getting me a book port for class.  Can I get opinions 
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Re: book port

2006-01-15 Thread Dean Martineau


I seldom, perhaps never,  hear any fundamental complaints about the 
unit.  There are things people might like to see changed, but a very high 
percentage of users are very pleased with the Book Port.  I've only seen 
one on resale on one of the buy-sell lists for the blind.  I love mine.

Dean


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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-18 Thread Sarai and Rosie
When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading
them,or the computer voice?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


- Original Message - 
From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: the Book Port


 Hi.
 Jeff wrote
  You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
  BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
  start at that spot when you resume listening?

 Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all
 files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put
 bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a
 temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as
 permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed.


 Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
  software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
  although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
  software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
 

 No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you
 start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit
the
 check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are
 checked for and downloaded.
 I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're
 willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert
 your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence
 reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few
 minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space
 than text files.
 Aman



 - Original Message - 
 From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM
 Subject: Re: the Book Port


  Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
  questions about the BookPort.
 
  You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
  BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
  start at that spot when you resume listening?
 
  Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
  software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
  although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
  software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
 
  Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
  contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
  would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
  players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
  probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
  quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
  would not be an issue for me.
 
  If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
  similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
  unit like this with Eloquence.
 
  Jeff, the Ultra guy
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-18 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
the audible reader, but only in format 4.
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: the Book Port


 When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading
 them,or the computer voice?
 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
   And lean not on your own understanding;
   In all your ways acknowledge Him,
   And He shall direct your paths.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM
 Subject: RE: the Book Port


  Hi.
  Jeff wrote
   You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
   BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
   start at that spot when you resume listening?
 
  Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all
  files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put
  bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is
a
  temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as
  permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed.
 
 
  Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
   software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
   although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
   software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
  
 
  No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you
  start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit
 the
  check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates
are
  checked for and downloaded.
  I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're
  willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player,
convert
  your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence
  reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a
few
  minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space
  than text files.
  Aman
 
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM
  Subject: Re: the Book Port
 
 
   Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
   questions about the BookPort.
  
   You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
   BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
   start at that spot when you resume listening?
  
   Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
   software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
   although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
   software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
  
   Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
   contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
   would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
   players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
   probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
   quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
   would not be an issue for me.
  
   If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
   similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
   unit like this with Eloquence.
  
   Jeff, the Ultra guy
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-18 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,
When listening to Audible books on the Book Port, you are listening to the 
human narator who read the book for Audible.

Robert Carter
At 12:42 PM 7/18/2004, you wrote:
When you listen to audible books, are you listening to the person reading
them,or the computer voice?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.
- Original Message -
From: Aman Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: the Book Port
 Hi.
 Jeff wrote
  You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
  BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
  start at that spot when you resume listening?

 Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all
 files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put
 bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a
 temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as
 permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed.


 Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
  software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
  although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
  software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
 

 No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you
 start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit
the
 check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are
 checked for and downloaded.
 I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're
 willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert
 your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence
 reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few
 minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space
 than text files.
 Aman



 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM
 Subject: Re: the Book Port


  Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
  questions about the BookPort.
 
  You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
  BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
  start at that spot when you resume listening?
 
  Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
  software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
  although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
  software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?
 
  Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
  contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
  would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
  players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
  probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
  quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
  would not be an issue for me.
 
  If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
  similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
  unit like this with Eloquence.
 
  Jeff, the Ultra guy
  http://www.UltraHost.US
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-18 Thread Marsha Anderson
Hi
 Are most of the books available in format 4?

Marsha Anderson

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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-12 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
Jeff wrote
 You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
 BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
 start at that spot when you resume listening?

Yes, this is what happens. You can resume at a specific spot (all
files have a resume point held in memory for them), and you can put
bookmarks in files at any point. The two are separate. That is, there is a
temporary bookmark for each file where it's been stopped, as well as
permanent bookmarks which can be put at specific places and removed.


Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
 software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
 although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
 software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?


No, the BP's firmware and software can be updated easily. When you
start the program, it can check for updates automatically or you can hit the
check updates button, as you wish. Both software and firmware updates are
checked for and downloaded.
I, too, wish there was a unit with Eloquence. However, if you're
willing to put up with delay (I'm not), you can buy an MP3 player, convert
your text files to MP3 with one of the converters, and have eloquence
reading your texts to you. As I said, though, this process does take a few
minutes per book, as well as resulting in files which take up more space
than text files.
Aman



- Original Message - 
From: Jeff - The Ultra Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: the Book Port


 Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
 questions about the BookPort.

 You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
 BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
 start at that spot when you resume listening?

 Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
 software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
 although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
 software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?

 Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
 contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
 would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
 players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
 probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
 quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
 would not be an issue for me.

 If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
 similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
 unit like this with Eloquence.

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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-12 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
You can stop an mp3 file on the book port and resume where you left off at
any time.  You can also place book marks on an mp3 I think.
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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: the Book Port


 Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
 questions about the BookPort.

 You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
 BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
 start at that spot when you resume listening?

 Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
 software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
 although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
 software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?

 Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
 contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
 would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
 players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
 probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
 quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
 would not be an issue for me.

 If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
 similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
 unit like this with Eloquence.

 Jeff, the Ultra guy
 http://www.UltraHost.US
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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-12 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. Although you can use rechargeable batteries with the bookport, it is 
not recommended as you might not get a correct percentage of the battery 
life remaining.
But I know some people who use rechargeables. I don't and get probably 60 
hours or more.
At 7/11/2004, you wrote:
According to the manual for the Book Port, mp3 at 128 bit rate will
play fine and in stereo.
There is no A.C. plug adapter. Its recommended that you buy and use
rechargeable batteries and recharge on a separate battery charger.
The unit comes with a 64 mb flash card and you can buy additional
flash cards from your local computer store.
I understand that both the Book Port and the Book courier will accept
storage/playback of Audible books from audible.com
Hope this information helps you a little more to get a clear idea of
the Book Port.
Aloha,
Milton M. Ota
Associate Dealer, Hawaii
Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N.
1318 Kanewai Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718
Phone: (808)734-0612
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Guy
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:41 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: the Book Port
Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below.  If
only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech
rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.
I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt
it did an inadequate job of comparison.  It really just listed the
features of each product without much comparison.
Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of
these products.  What bit rates do they support?  More importantly,
what bit rates do they *not* support?  Can bookmarks be placed within
mp3 files?  I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to
audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the
detailed differences between the two units in this regard.
Are there other products which I should consider for listening to
audio/audible.com books?
Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors.  Can either of
these units be run off of AC?  If not, it seems one would go through a
lot of batteries.
I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less
expensive, it also includes twice the memory.
Jeff, the Ultra guy
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From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM
Allow me to answer two postings in one--
I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will
support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only
supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this
time is not that important as there are not many books available in
Daisy 3.0.
The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the
Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their
website at:
http://www.aph.org/
You can find a website on the Book courier at:
http://www.bookcourier.com/
And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American
Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a
comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here.
http://www.afb.org/accessworld/

Aloha,
Milton M. Ota

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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Sarai and Rosie
APH and it was $375
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


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Subject: Re: the Book Port


 Who carries this product and how much does it cost?
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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Aman Singer
Hi.
There have been seven or eight upgrades, both to the firmware in the
unit and to the transfer software on the PC. Have a look at
http://sun1.aph.org/tech/bp_new.htm 
for a list up to march of this year. After march, the major
additions are the ability to play Audible books and the ability to increase
the speed of files before they're sent to the machine.
Aman  

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While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased
one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades.  Can anyone tell me
whether there have been any?

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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Just bought oneand love it.  My husband whois sighted also bought one for
his audible and mp3 books.  Very fine machine!
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From: Robert Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: the Book Port


 Hi,

 I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed
 specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2
 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving
 one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same
 basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface.

 Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will
 even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing
 the pitch. It will play Audible files as well.

 Robert Carter

 At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:


 you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the
 same company for APH.
 
 -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey:
 At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will
soon
 be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what
do
 they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Jeff - The Ultra Guy
Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below.  If
only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech
rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.

I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt
it did an inadequate job of comparison.  It really just listed the
features of each product without much comparison.

Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of
these products.  What bit rates do they support?  More importantly,
what bit rates do they *not* support?  Can bookmarks be placed within
mp3 files?  I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to
audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the
detailed differences between the two units in this regard.

Are there other products which I should consider for listening to
audio/audible.com books?

Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors.  Can either of
these units be run off of AC?  If not, it seems one would go through a
lot of batteries.

I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less
expensive, it also includes twice the memory.

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- Original Message - 
From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM


Allow me to answer two postings in one--

I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will
support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only
supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this
time is not that important as there are not many books available in
Daisy 3.0.

The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the
Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their
website at:

http://www.aph.org/

You can find a website on the Book courier at:

http://www.bookcourier.com/

And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American
Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a
comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here.

http://www.afb.org/accessworld/



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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. I'd spend the extra money and get the bookport. It does more than the 
book courier.


you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the 
same company for APH.

-- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey:
At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon
be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do
they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Henrichsen
The courier has less functions and I think it cannot read as many file 
types. it is easier to learn because it doesn't do as much.
So you need to decide if you want something that might take you a bit 
longer to learn how to use or not.

What's the difference b/t the two?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.
- Original Message -
From: Gary G. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: the Book Port

 you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the
same company for APH.

 -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey:
 At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will
soon
 be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what
do
 they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi, Jim. Aren't you on the bookport list? You might want to go to the aph 
web site and join the bookport e-mail list. There is quite a bit of beta 
testing going on for those who want to do so.

While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased
one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades.  Can anyone tell me
whether there have been any?
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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Debbie Crafts
Hello Jeff and listers,
I bought the BC when it first came out but my unit was buggy and ran
through batteries at an alarming clip.  I also lost a memory card to the
device and had to send it in for service when it totally stopped working
after a battery change.  So when I finally got around to the APH web site
and read about the Bookport, I kicked myself for not having gone that route.
When I received a bonus from work, I bought the bookport.  The Bookcourier
sits in a drawer unused, and that is my backup device.  As far as the
bookport goes, we are inseparable!  And I do mean inseparable!  It lives in
the pocket of whatever I'm wearing--it's in my robe pocket as I write this,
and it travels with me everywhere.  Battery changes take place about once a
week.  It handles a wider variety of formats more gracefully than does the
BC.  Here are my specific comments regarding the questions you pose:

I read the article comparing the Bookport and BookCourier, but I felt
it did an inadequate job of comparison.  It really just listed the
features of each product without much comparison.

I agree.  The one comment they made that was helpful was that it is far too
easy to record a memo by accident on the bookport--you really need to
establish the habit of locking it when it's not in use.

Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of
these products.  What bit rates do they support?  More importantly,
what bit rates do they *not* support?

I Haven't come across a bit rate which either device would not handle.  I
frequently record at very low bit rates for spoken word material and these
do not present any problems.

Can bookmarks be placed within
mp3 files?

Yes for the Bookport, no for the Bookcourier.  The BP also has better
navigation of .mp3 files--I.E. you can back up by phrases or longer pauses.
In the case of music files, you can navigate by five or ten seconds or a
minute at a time. There is also a way to do rapid jumps.  On the BC, you are
limited to jumping by 5 percent increments within the file and you cannot
set bookmarks.

I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to
audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the
detailed differences between the two units in this regard.

On the BP, the audible support is in beta-testing, for which you can
download the beta firmwear and transfer software from the website.  Audible
works very well on both devices, but you are limited to format 4 on either
one of them.  This means your files are going to be huge and will take
longer to download, although the audio quality almost makes it worth it.

Are there other products which I should consider for listening to
audio/audible.com books?

In my opinion, either one of these devices is the most accessible
audible-ready device, if you don't mind the extra time and overhead involved
in using format 4.  The Audible Otis, which is no longer sold, also worked
well and supports formats 2 and 3 if you can get your hands on one of these,
but it doesn't resume in normal .mp3 files and of course doesn't give you
verbal feedback.

Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors.  Can either of
these units be run off of AC?  If not, it seems one would go through a
lot of batteries.

Neither comes with an adapter, nor is there a plug for one on the unit.  I
strongly recommend the use of NIMH rechargeables--there are chargers out now
that will fully charge these in less than an hour.  One hint: store charged
spares in a baggy in your freezer--they retain the charge much longer that
way.

I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less
expensive, it also includes twice the memory.

True, but you can purchase compact flash I cards with up to 2GB memory that
will work in either device.
The 2GB guys are terribly expensive, but there are usually pretty good deals
on 256MB and 512MB cards.  Hope these comments are helpful.

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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Milton M. Ota
According to the manual for the Book Port, mp3 at 128 bit rate will
play fine and in stereo.

There is no A.C. plug adapter. Its recommended that you buy and use
rechargeable batteries and recharge on a separate battery charger.

The unit comes with a 64 mb flash card and you can buy additional
flash cards from your local computer store.

I understand that both the Book Port and the Book courier will accept
storage/playback of Audible books from audible.com

Hope this information helps you a little more to get a clear idea of
the Book Port.


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Guy
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:41 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: the Book Port


Thanks, Milton, for the information in your message quoted below.  If
only there was a similar product which used Eloquence text to speech
rather than Doubletalk I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.

I read the article comparing the BookPort and BookCourier, but I felt
it did an inadequate job of comparison.  It really just listed the
features of each product without much comparison.

Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of
these products.  What bit rates do they support?  More importantly,
what bit rates do they *not* support?  Can bookmarks be placed within
mp3 files?  I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to
audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the
detailed differences between the two units in this regard.

Are there other products which I should consider for listening to
audio/audible.com books?

Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors.  Can either of
these units be run off of AC?  If not, it seems one would go through a
lot of batteries.

I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less
expensive, it also includes twice the memory.

Jeff, the Ultra guy
http://www.UltraHost.US
http://www.UltraRadio.US

- Original Message - 
From: Milton M. Ota [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:59 PM


Allow me to answer two postings in one--

I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will
support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only
supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this
time is not that important as there are not many books available in
Daisy 3.0.

The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the
Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their
website at:

http://www.aph.org/

You can find a website on the Book courier at:

http://www.bookcourier.com/

And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American
Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a
comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here.

http://www.afb.org/accessworld/



Aloha,
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Jeff - The Ultra Guy
Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
questions about the BookPort.

You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
start at that spot when you resume listening?

Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?

Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
would not be an issue for me.

If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
unit like this with Eloquence.

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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Debbie Crafts
Jeff,
Both the BC and BP have auto-resume for any file type.  Also the update
procedures are about the same for both--the Bookport transfer software
automatically notifies you of updates and will download them automatically
if you tell it to do so.  The Doubletalk synthe really is not that bad--I
lived with it on my PC for years, so it's like an old friend to me, although
I agree with you that Eloquence would be superior. My only complaint--and
this applies to either device--is that the volume at which it reads and the
volume at which MP3 files are played is quite different.  So if you've been
reading text or .htm files and you want to listen to an .mp3 or Audible
file, best turn the volume down a few notches first if you want to keep your
ears from ringing.

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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 8:32 PM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: the Book Port


Yes, Debbie, I appreciate your comments.  I do have a couple more
questions about the BookPort.

You mentioned resuming in mp3 files.  Are you saying that the
BookPort will remember where you stop listening to an mp3 file and
start at that spot when you resume listening?

Also, the BC mentioned having an update feature for updating the
software.  Nothing was specifically said about this for the BP,
although I realize it can be done.  Is it more difficult to update
software/firmware on the BP than on the BC?

Actually, I'm not a subscriber of audible.com yet, but I have been
contemplating it for quite some time.  One of my reasons for doing so
would be to have books I could listen to with one of these types of
players.  However, I have read about the various formats and would
probably want to use format 4 anyway.  I am somewhat particular about
quality and usually prefer to get the highest quality I can, so this
would not be an issue for me.

If you have any other comments about either of these devices or other
similar products I'd be interested.  I really, really wish there was a
unit like this with Eloquence.

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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-11 Thread Gary G. Schindler

You sold me on the book port!

-- Debbie Crafts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Jeff and listers,
I bought the BC when it first came out but my unit was buggy and ran
through batteries at an alarming clip.  I also lost a memory card to the
device and had to send it in for service when it totally stopped working
after a battery change.  So when I finally got around to the APH web site
and read about the Bookport, I kicked myself for not having gone that route.
When I received a bonus from work, I bought the bookport.  The Bookcourier
sits in a drawer unused, and that is my backup device.  As far as the
bookport goes, we are inseparable!  And I do mean inseparable!  It lives in
the pocket of whatever I'm wearing--it's in my robe pocket as I write this,
and it travels with me everywhere.  Battery changes take place about once a
week.  It handles a wider variety of formats more gracefully than does the
BC.  Here are my specific comments regarding the questions you pose:

I read the article comparing the Bookport and BookCourier, but I felt
it did an inadequate job of comparison.  It really just listed the
features of each product without much comparison.

I agree.  The one comment they made that was helpful was that it is far too
easy to record a memo by accident on the bookport--you really need to
establish the habit of locking it when it's not in use.

Nowhere did I find much information about the mp3 capabilities of
these products.  What bit rates do they support?  More importantly,
what bit rates do they *not* support?

I Haven't come across a bit rate which either device would not handle.  I
frequently record at very low bit rates for spoken word material and these
do not present any problems.

Can bookmarks be placed within
mp3 files?

Yes for the Bookport, no for the Bookcourier.  The BP also has better
navigation of .mp3 files--I.E. you can back up by phrases or longer pauses.
In the case of music files, you can navigate by five or ten seconds or a
minute at a time. There is also a way to do rapid jumps.  On the BC, you are
limited to jumping by 5 percent increments within the file and you cannot
set bookmarks.

I think my primary use for the unit would be to listen to
audio and perhaps audible.com books, so I'd be most interested in the
detailed differences between the two units in this regard.

On the BP, the audible support is in beta-testing, for which you can
download the beta firmwear and transfer software from the website.  Audible
works very well on both devices, but you are limited to format 4 on either
one of them.  This means your files are going to be huge and will take
longer to download, although the audio quality almost makes it worth it.

Are there other products which I should consider for listening to
audio/audible.com books?

In my opinion, either one of these devices is the most accessible
audible-ready device, if you don't mind the extra time and overhead involved
in using format 4.  The Audible Otis, which is no longer sold, also worked
well and supports formats 2 and 3 if you can get your hands on one of these,
but it doesn't resume in normal .mp3 files and of course doesn't give you
verbal feedback.

Also, nowhere was anything mentioned about AC adaptors.  Can either of
these units be run off of AC?  If not, it seems one would go through a
lot of batteries.

Neither comes with an adapter, nor is there a plug for one on the unit.  I
strongly recommend the use of NIMH rechargeables--there are chargers out now
that will fully charge these in less than an hour.  One hint: store charged
spares in a baggy in your freezer--they retain the charge much longer that
way.

I did notice that in addition to the BookCourier being $20 less
expensive, it also includes twice the memory.

True, but you can purchase compact flash I cards with up to 2GB memory that
will work in either device.
The 2GB guys are terribly expensive, but there are usually pretty good deals
on 256MB and 512MB cards.  Hope these comments are helpful.

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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,
I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed 
specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2 
files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving 
one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same 
basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface.

Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will 
even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing 
the pitch. It will play Audible files as well.

Robert Carter
At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:

you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the 
same company for APH.

-- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey:
At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will soon
be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what do
they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.

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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Sarai and Rosie
What's the difference b/t the two?
Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
  And lean not on your own understanding;
  In all your ways acknowledge Him,
  And He shall direct your paths.


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Subject: Re: the Book Port



 you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the
same company for APH.

 -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey:
 At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will
soon
 be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what
do
 they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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   And lean not on your own understanding;
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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Milton M. Ota
Allow me to answer two postings in one--

I believe that the firmware in the BookPort over the Book Courier will
support Daisy format 3.0 where the Book Courier currently was only
supporting Daisy format 2.2. Whether that makes any difference at this
time is not that important as there are not many books available in
Daisy 3.0.

The BookPort is a product of the American Printing House for the
Blind, Inc. information about the BookPort can be found at their
website at:

http://www.aph.org/

You can find a website on the Book courier at:

http://www.bookcourier.com/

And for all interested parties, go to the web of the American
Foundation for the Blind's Accessworld for July 2004 and read a
comparison report of the two devices we are talking about here.

http://www.afb.org/accessworld/



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Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:06 PM
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and where do you find this program/ player?
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 Hi,

 I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed 
 specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade
2 
 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well 
 giving one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices
use 
 the same basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the 
 user interface.

 Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta 
 will even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without

 changing the pitch. It will play Audible files as well.

 Robert Carter

 At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:


 you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made
buy 
 the same company for APH.
 
 -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey:
 At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and 
 will
soon
 be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it
and 
 what
do
 they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
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heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Robert Carter
Hi,
The Book Port is sold by the American Printing House for the Blind. 
http://www.aph.org/tech

Robert Carter
At 07:05 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:
and where do you find this program/ player?
- Original Message -
From: Robert Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: the Book Port
 Hi,

 I would respectfully disagree with this. The Book Port was designed
 specifically for people who are blind. It will play contracted grade 2
 files and the transfer software is much more designed to work well giving
 one audio feedback as transfers are happening. Both devices use the same
 basic hardware with some differences in the keypad and the user interface.

 Again, I put my vote in for the Book Port. The current public beta will
 even allow one to speed-up audio files compressing them without changing
 the pitch. It will play Audible files as well.

 Robert Carter

 At 04:54 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:


 you may want to get the Book Courier instead. Book port it=s made buy the
 same company for APH.
 
 -- Sarai and Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey:
 At the ACB convention, I saw a book port. It plays everything and will
soon
 be playing books from audible. I was wondering if anyone uses it and what
do
 they think of the accessibility and the voice quality?
 Sarai and Rosie, Proverbs 3:5,6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.
 
 
 
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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread doc
Who carries this product and how much does it cost?
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
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Its just the least I can do for my neighbor.


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Re: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Jim Shaker
While I totally agree with Mr. Carter about the book port, and I purchased
one at the very outset, I haven't heard of any upgrades.  Can anyone tell me
whether there have been any?

Jim



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RE: the Book Port

2004-07-10 Thread Milton M. Ota
The bookPort is from the american Printing House for the Blind and it
cost around $399.00.



Aloha,
Milton M. Ota
Associate Dealer, Hawaii
Island Computer Access Now, I.C.A.N.
1318 Kanewai Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-1718
Phone: (808)734-0612
Cell: (808)295-2528
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Who carries this product and how much does it cost?
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