Re: [PD] pdscript ?

2009-04-21 Thread Jamie Bullock


On 20 Apr 2009, at 14:07, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:


Twitter copy and paste app for Max/MSP;

http://www.soundplusdesign.com/?p=1621

Somebody port to Pd, or do something similar?



I'm sure something similar could be built with Pd. My problem with tas  
is that the notation is way too low level and lacking in semantic  
information.


Porting this to another platform  other than Max in a meaningful way  
would IMO entail copying the  implementation. I would prefer to see  
something that defines a protocol, API or scripting language where the  
data representation is decoupled from the implementation.


Still, I think tas is  an interesting project, and it *works*, which  
is good in itself.


best,

Jamie


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[PD] Madrid user

2009-04-21 Thread thomas thiery
Hello pd-list,

I will go to Madrid for some days in may ( 22 - 25) 2009. I would like to
meet some other pd user or electronic musician.
And if you are intested, i will try to organise a blank pages session
(improvisation with Pure Data).
www.blankpages.fr

Here you can find some of my work
http://www.matohawkitongroup.free.fr
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Re: [PD] canvas label

2009-04-21 Thread Andy Farnell


 Do you really think  
 that anyone has written some crazy kludge that relies on # being  
 converted into $ on the canvas label?

Yep :)

But:

1) I was wrong to do it.
2) It deserves to get broken.
3) It doesn't really matter any more.
4) You can probably count the other people who relied
on this kludge using one hand.



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Re: [PD] canvas label

2009-04-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Apr 21, 2009, at 5:14 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


Laurent WILLKOMM wrote:

Hi pd-list,
if I give a canvas a label including a #, it shows a $ instead  
(Debian, WinXP, OSX). Is this a bug or intended behavior ?


it's the way it is currently implemented: guiobjects internally use  
# to represent $ (to bypass Pd's (and probably tcl's) expansion  
mechanism).

therefore all # are replaced by $.

you could consider this as a bug (though i think it's unlikely to  
get fixed anytime...soon).




I am curious, what are the barriers to fixing it?   If someone came up  
with a better way to represent $, then I don't really see a problem  
with fixing that.  There won't be backwards compatibility issues since  
the $ is saved in the patch instead of the #.  Do you really think  
that anyone has written some crazy kludge that relies on # being  
converted into $ on the canvas label?


.hc




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[PD] microbs/virus/fluids and such visuals

2009-04-21 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

ola,

i don't know if someone here
have suceeded in doing organic visuals,
simulating microbes, viruses and fluids ?

which way we should look?
shaders, glsl?

if someone can point me to an example,
would be greatly appreciated...

danke,
sevy

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Re: [PD] microbs/virus/fluids and such visuals

2009-04-21 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

Hey,

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ola,

i don't know if someone here
have suceeded in doing organic visuals,
simulating microbes, viruses and fluids ?

which way we should look?
shaders, glsl?


I'm working on a project (codenamed RDEX) somewhat related - it uses 
GLSL shaders to simulate Reaction-Diffusion chemistry (similar to 
cellular automata), analyses them in various ways to find interesting 
parameter points, with communication to a web server that provides 
search by similarity in various metrics.


No Pd is involved at all, though...

Some (very old) screenshots and videos here:

http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/rdex/

(note that the videos have bright strobing colours, be careful if you 
are sensitive)


Source code (probably not suitable for public consumption yet, but might 
give you ideas) here:


svn co https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/rdex-client/
svn co https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/rdex-server/


if someone can point me to an example,
would be greatly appreciated...

danke,
sevy



Thanks,


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Re: [PD] canvas label

2009-04-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Andy Farnell wrote:





Do you really think
that anyone has written some crazy kludge that relies on # being
converted into $ on the canvas label?


Yep :)

But:

1) I was wrong to do it.
2) It deserves to get broken.
3) It doesn't really matter any more.
4) You can probably count the other people who relied
on this kludge using one hand.


Wow, I am curious now.  What's the kludge and why?  :-)

.hc






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[PD] [shell] duplicating PD process

2009-04-21 Thread B. Bogart
Hey all,

I don't know if anyone is still using [shell] I had it in my
installation patch just to start a second PD process.

Anyhow I've been trying to debug a memory problem and during that
process found that there were three (not the expected two) PD processes.
Two of which were fighting for RAM.

ps made it clear. Before I start the second PD process ps shows:

6484 pd -open root.pd

When I used shell to start the process pd -open dump2SOM.pd -nogui I
then get:

6484 pd -open root.pd
6486 pd -open root.pd
6487 pd -open dump2SOM.pd -nogui

Both the root pds seem to be real processes, both use memory and
interfere with one and other.

I ended up starting both PDs from a bash script to solve the issue.

I just wanted to write to the list, if you see weird duplicate PDs
floating on your machine check your use of shell!

This happened on a debian lenny machine with shell from svn and pd 0.40.3.

.b.

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Re: [PD] pd + controller

2009-04-21 Thread donotreply




I wrote a little tutorial about the ctlin object. It is
quite simple, and as my born languaje is not english i hope there is no
ortographic mistake.
You can download it from

http://rapidshare.com/files/224126003/pd_controller.zip.html

If you have any problem downloading it from rapidshare (it is limited
to 10 downloads) ill use my site, but I am having problems with it
(luck of use) so I could send it directly to any interested.

As you will see there youll find the text in .odt and .pdf, along with
the patches, in case you need to correct anything (if you want to use
it for the FLOSS Pure Data manual).

Thank you again

nan



Derek Holzer escribi:
Sounds
like just the kind of tutorial we need in the Pd FLOSS Manual! Anybody
want to write it?
  
  
http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata
  
  
D.
  
  
Bjrn Nielsen wrote:
  
  As a fellow newbie, I know you problem. My
method was to go the help

files for different midiinputs and see if turning the knobs did

trigger anything. The ctlin, as Andrew suggested, did work for one of

my controllers, but you could also try pgmin, midiin, notein etc.

As a sidenote, I just found out, that if you connect two different

controllers at the same time, the second one will be added 16 to it's

channel number.


/Bjrn


On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 04:16, donotreply

donotreplytothissendermail...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi to all of you people. Im new in the
list, and quite a newbee in pd too.
  
Ive been searching the web for explicit info and tuts for assigning
  
controls behaviour in pd to midi events coming from a midi controller
(with
  
faders and such, not a keyboard) and I wander if you can tell me where
that
  
info could be found, cause I found nothing clear about it, only some
answers
  
to some problems, not really explicit.
  
I looked it up here in the list but I didnt find it. (Im not saying
it is
  
not there.The answer could be under my own nose, so forgive me if I am
not
  
aware of that)
  
  
Thank you
  
  
nan
  
  
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Re: [PD] pd + controller

2009-04-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Looks nice, it would be great if you added it to the FLOSS manual.   
You can just sign in and start editing.  It seems like it should be  
its own section in the MIDI chapter.


You could also host the file on puredata.info, just sign in and upload  
it to your folder.


.hc

On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:04 PM, donotreply wrote:

I wrote a little tutorial about the ctlin object. It is quite  
simple, and as my born languaje is not english i hope there is no  
ortographic mistake.

You can download it from

http://rapidshare.com/files/224126003/pd_controller.zip.html

If you have any problem downloading it from rapidshare  (it is  
limited to 10 downloads) i´ll use my site, but I am having problems  
with it (luck of use) so I could send it directly to any interested.


As you will see there you´ll find the text in .odt and .pdf, along  
with the patches, in case you need to correct anything (if you want  
to use it for the FLOSS Pure Data manual).


Thank you again

nan



Derek Holzer escribió:


Sounds like just the kind of tutorial we need in the Pd FLOSS  
Manual! Anybody want to write it?


http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata

D.

Bjørn Nielsen wrote:

As a fellow newbie, I know you problem. My method was to go the help
files for different midiinputs and see if turning the knobs did
trigger anything. The ctlin, as Andrew suggested, did work for one  
of

my controllers, but you could also try pgmin, midiin, notein etc.
As a sidenote, I just found out, that if you connect two different
controllers at the same time, the second one will be added 16 to  
it's

channel number.

/Bjørn

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 04:16, donotreply
donotreplytothissendermail...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi to all of you people. I´m new in the list, and quite a newbee  
in pd too.
I´ve been searching the web for explicit info and tuts for  
assigning
controls behaviour in pd to midi events coming from a midi  
controller (with
faders and such, not a keyboard) and I wander if you can tell me  
where that
info could be found, cause I found nothing clear about it, only  
some answers

to some problems, not really explicit.
I looked it up here in the list but I didn´t find it. (I´m not  
saying it is
not there.The answer could be under my own nose, so forgive me if  
I am not

aware of that)

Thank you

nan

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[PD] PD] microbs/virus/fluids and such visuals

2009-04-21 Thread oskoff lovich
s
Hey Yves, taste your own medicine!! (i say it for the pdp-lumafilt and
pdp_desintegration) maybe that could be some kind of mutant virus feedback
salut!

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
 ola,

 i don't know if someone here
 have suceeded in doing organic visuals,
 simulating microbes, viruses and fluids ?

 which way we should look?
 shaders, glsl?

-- 
http://noconventions.mobi/noish


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Re: [PD] microbs/virus/fluids and such visuals

2009-04-21 Thread vade

There is a nice 2D water simulation shader on the GLSL library at :

http://code.google.com/p/glslang-library/source/browse/#svn/trunk/ 
trunk/glslang/shaders/simulation


:)

And there has been some lovely optical flow GPU work being done. I  
have GLSL shaders included with my Quartz Composer patch downloadable  
here:


http://002.vade.info/



On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:


Hey,

ydego...@gmail.com wrote:

ola,
i don't know if someone here
have suceeded in doing organic visuals,
simulating microbes, viruses and fluids ?
which way we should look?
shaders, glsl?


I'm working on a project (codenamed RDEX) somewhat related - it uses  
GLSL shaders to simulate Reaction-Diffusion chemistry (similar to  
cellular automata), analyses them in various ways to find  
interesting parameter points, with communication to a web server  
that provides search by similarity in various metrics.


No Pd is involved at all, though...

Some (very old) screenshots and videos here:

http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/rdex/

(note that the videos have bright strobing colours, be careful if  
you are sensitive)


Source code (probably not suitable for public consumption yet, but  
might give you ideas) here:


svn co https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/rdex-client/
svn co https://code.goto10.org/svn/maximus/2009/rdex-server/


if someone can point me to an example,
would be greatly appreciated...
danke,
sevy



Thanks,


Claude
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http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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Re: [PD] PD] microbs/virus/fluids and such visuals

2009-04-21 Thread ydego...@gmail.com

hey oskar,

that medicine ain't enough,
or has it ever been?

lumafilt' don't remember that
but i can check,
it think still it's nothing close to life !!

kuss
sevy

oskoff lovich wrote:

s
Hey Yves, taste your own medicine!! (i say it for the pdp-lumafilt and 
pdp_desintegration) maybe that could be some kind of mutant virus feedback

salut!

ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
 ola,

 i don't know if someone here
 have suceeded in doing organic visuals,
 simulating microbes, viruses and fluids ?

 which way we should look?
 shaders, glsl?

--
http://noconventions.mobi/noish


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Re: [PD] pd + controller

2009-04-21 Thread donotreply




Well, then I will add it to the FLOSS manual in a few
days when I got some free time again, and I will upload it to
puredata.info probably this weekend if not tomorrow (thankyou
Hans-Christoph for the tip). I would like to be shure that the english
I used is correct but I guess that if it is not someone will fix it.

In the future I belive I will have to expand the tutorial adding
information about the ctlout object, in order to show how to send back
the midi data, something easy and really helpfull when working with
motorized controllers or such (like the bitstream 3x named in the patch
provided by Xose, which is not motorized but uses the midi feedback in
order to avoid data jumps).

nan



Hans-Christoph Steiner escribi:

  
  
  Looks nice, it would be great if you added it to the FLOSS
manual. You can just sign in and start editing. It seems like it
should be its own section in the "MIDI" chapter.
  
  
  You could also host the file on puredata.info, just sign in and
upload it to your folder.
  
  
  .hc
  
  
  On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:04 PM, donotreply wrote:
  
  
 I wrote a
little tutorial about the ctlin object. It is quite simple, and as my
born languaje is not english i hope there is no ortographic mistake.
You can download it from

http://rapidshare.com/files/224126003/pd_controller.zip.html

If you have any problem downloading it from rapidshare (it is limited
to 10 downloads) ill use my site, but I am having problems with it
(luck of use) so I could send it directly to any interested.

As you will see there youll find the text in .odt and .pdf, along with
the patches, in case you need to correct anything (if you want to use
it for the FLOSS Pure Data manual).

Thank you again

nan



Derek Holzer escribi:
Sounds
like just the kind of tutorial we need in the Pd FLOSS Manual! Anybody
want to write it? 
  
  http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata
  
  
D. 
  
Bjrn Nielsen wrote: 
  As a fellow newbie, I know you problem.
My method was to go the help 
files for different midiinputs and see if turning the knobs did 
trigger anything. The ctlin, as Andrew suggested, did work for one of 
my controllers, but you could also try pgmin, midiin, notein etc. 
As a sidenote, I just found out, that if you connect two different 
controllers at the same time, the second one will be added 16 to it's 
channel number. 

/Bjrn 

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 04:16, donotreply 
donotreplytothissendermail...@gmail.com
wrote: 
Hi to all of you people. Im new in the
list, and quite a newbee in pd too. 
Ive been searching the web for explicit info and tuts for assigning 
controls behaviour in pd to midi events coming from a midi controller
(with 
faders and such, not a keyboard) and I wander if you can tell me where
that 
info could be found, cause I found nothing clear about it, only some
answers 
to some problems, not really explicit. 
I looked it up here in the list but I didnt find it. (Im not saying
it is 
not there.The answer could be under my own nose, so forgive me if I am
not 
aware of that) 
  
Thank you 
  
nan 
  
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