Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed
On 2 Oct 2013, at 03:19, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: There are compiled binaries for Windows and Mac in http://g.org/data/dev/ext/windows/pd/ and http://g.org/data/dev/ext/macos/pd/ Please let me know if they work for you. best, Thomas Thanks Thomas, this seems to do what I need, however the external just hangs whilst loading on my 10.8 Mac. It's like the external goes into an infinite loop and never returns to the caller. I managed to compile from source, and this seems to work just fine, so maybe you just need to link your binary against more recent SDKs best, Jamie 2013/10/1 Thomas Grill g...@g.org Hey Jamie, there's a project sitting in my repo i developed some years ago. In my memory it worked pretty well. It depends on libsndfile and the quicktime API, although there might be a way to exclude the use of either one. https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/fsplay/ best, Thomas 2013/10/1 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com Hi folks, I'm looking at options for direct-from-disk audio with Pd. My requirements are: - scrub / set current position within audio file - variable speed playback - looping - works on Mac OS X and Win32 So far I've come up with: [sfread2~] — crashes as soon as DSP is switched on (Mac OS X 10.8) [readanysf~] — seems good, but a few issues (e.g. audible clicking when changing playback speed) Any other options? best, Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] declare and abstraction
Hello, I'm trying to setup a project organised in folder like this : projet/ dir1/ abstraction1/ foo patch1.pd dir2/ abstraction2 bar patch2.pd patch.pd in patch1.pd, i've got a declare -path abstraction1 so that i can use the foo abstraction same in patch2 : declare -path abstraction2 to use the bar abstraction patch1 and patch2 are autonomous. now, in patch.pd, I want to use patch1 and patch2. when using declare -path dir1, I can use patch1, but the declare in patch1 is relative to the projet directory, not to the dir1, so foo is not found. when using dir2/patch2, it's the same problem. i would like that patch1 and patch2 deal with the declaration of path for abstraction there are using. And i would like to be able to use patch1 and patch2 in patch, without having to add declaration. i know that there is a warning in declare help not to do that. so, what is the vanilla way to organised project like that? for now, the solution i found is to organised things like this : projet/ dir1/ abstraction1/ foo patch1.pd dir2/ abstraction2 bar patch2.pd all/ patch.pd and using declare -path ../patch1/abstraction1 in patch1. but i don't really like that. thanks cheers Cyrille ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] declare and abstraction
Hi Cyrille, I struggled with that for a long time myself. Unless something changed in 0.44/0.45 the only really reliable solution I found was to *only* use [declare] in a *toplevel* file, and never in any abstraction. So for your layout I would only put a [declare] into patch.pd like: In patch.pd: [declare -path . -path dir1 -path dir2 -path dir1/abstraction1 -path dir2/abstraction2] Note that the first path that I always set is to the current directory (.) - it's useful to have as well. Ciao -- Frank On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 02:50:24PM +0200, Cyrille Henry wrote: Hello, I'm trying to setup a project organised in folder like this : projet/ dir1/ abstraction1/ foo patch1.pd dir2/ abstraction2 bar patch2.pd patch.pd in patch1.pd, i've got a declare -path abstraction1 so that i can use the foo abstraction same in patch2 : declare -path abstraction2 to use the bar abstraction patch1 and patch2 are autonomous. now, in patch.pd, I want to use patch1 and patch2. when using declare -path dir1, I can use patch1, but the declare in patch1 is relative to the projet directory, not to the dir1, so foo is not found. when using dir2/patch2, it's the same problem. i would like that patch1 and patch2 deal with the declaration of path for abstraction there are using. And i would like to be able to use patch1 and patch2 in patch, without having to add declaration. i know that there is a warning in declare help not to do that. so, what is the vanilla way to organised project like that? for now, the solution i found is to organised things like this : projet/ dir1/ abstraction1/ foo patch1.pd dir2/ abstraction2 bar patch2.pd all/ patch.pd and using declare -path ../patch1/abstraction1 in patch1. but i don't really like that. thanks cheers Cyrille ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed
Hi Jamie, thanks for the effort! - would you mind sending me the binary? Please also let me know whether it works for your task. gr~~~ 2013/10/8 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com On 2 Oct 2013, at 03:19, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: There are compiled binaries for Windows and Mac in http://g.org/data/dev/ext/windows/pd/ and http://g.org/data/dev/ext/macos/pd/ Please let me know if they work for you. best, Thomas Thanks Thomas, this seems to do what I need, however the external just hangs whilst loading on my 10.8 Mac. It's like the external goes into an infinite loop and never returns to the caller. I managed to compile from source, and this seems to work just fine, so maybe you just need to link your binary against more recent SDKs best, Jamie 2013/10/1 Thomas Grill g...@g.org Hey Jamie, there's a project sitting in my repo i developed some years ago. In my memory it worked pretty well. It depends on libsndfile and the quicktime API, although there might be a way to exclude the use of either one. https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/fsplay/ best, Thomas 2013/10/1 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com Hi folks, I'm looking at options for direct-from-disk audio with Pd. My requirements are: - scrub / set current position within audio file - variable speed playback - looping - works on Mac OS X and Win32 So far I've come up with: [sfread2~] — crashes as soon as DSP is switched on (Mac OS X 10.8) [readanysf~] — seems good, but a few issues (e.g. audible clicking when changing playback speed) Any other options? best, Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
I have had trouble with it too, Ill check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed
On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:37, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Hi Jamie, thanks for the effort! - would you mind sending me the binary? Please also let me know whether it works for your task. Hi, I've uploaded the binary here: http://d.pr/f/UkwJ We're using readanysf~ for now since there are ready-built binaries for both Mac and Windows we can just drop into our deployment builds with curl. However, the disk footprint is a concern for us, so we may switch to fsplay~ if we can't build readanysf~ with fewer dependencies. best, Jamie 2013/10/8 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com On 2 Oct 2013, at 03:19, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: There are compiled binaries for Windows and Mac in http://g.org/data/dev/ext/windows/pd/ and http://g.org/data/dev/ext/macos/pd/ Please let me know if they work for you. best, Thomas Thanks Thomas, this seems to do what I need, however the external just hangs whilst loading on my 10.8 Mac. It's like the external goes into an infinite loop and never returns to the caller. I managed to compile from source, and this seems to work just fine, so maybe you just need to link your binary against more recent SDKs best, Jamie 2013/10/1 Thomas Grill g...@g.org Hey Jamie, there's a project sitting in my repo i developed some years ago. In my memory it worked pretty well. It depends on libsndfile and the quicktime API, although there might be a way to exclude the use of either one. https://svn.g.org/ext/trunk/fsplay/ best, Thomas 2013/10/1 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com Hi folks, I'm looking at options for direct-from-disk audio with Pd. My requirements are: - scrub / set current position within audio file - variable speed playback - looping - works on Mac OS X and Win32 So far I've come up with: [sfread2~] — crashes as soon as DSP is switched on (Mac OS X 10.8) [readanysf~] — seems good, but a few issues (e.g. audible clicking when changing playback speed) Any other options? best, Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] declare and abstraction
hello, thanks, but i really want to be able to work on patch1 without having to open patch. c Le 08/10/2013 16:30, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hi Cyrille, I struggled with that for a long time myself. Unless something changed in 0.44/0.45 the only really reliable solution I found was to *only* use [declare] in a *toplevel* file, and never in any abstraction. So for your layout I would only put a [declare] into patch.pd like: In patch.pd: [declare -path . -path dir1 -path dir2 -path dir1/abstraction1 -path dir2/abstraction2] Note that the first path that I always set is to the current directory (.) - it's useful to have as well. Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] declare and abstraction
There's a long-standing bug with putting declares in abstractions (they affect the way the _parent_ patch searches for patches, not the abstraction itself.) It's on my dolist to try to restore sanity to the situation somehow (compatibly) but I won't be able to do that anytime soon. So, yes, for now put all the declares in the toplevel. cheers Miller On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 05:16:17PM +0200, Cyrille Henry wrote: hello, thanks, but i really want to be able to work on patch1 without having to open patch. c Le 08/10/2013 16:30, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hi Cyrille, I struggled with that for a long time myself. Unless something changed in 0.44/0.45 the only really reliable solution I found was to *only* use [declare] in a *toplevel* file, and never in any abstraction. So for your layout I would only put a [declare] into patch.pd like: In patch.pd: [declare -path . -path dir1 -path dir2 -path dir1/abstraction1 -path dir2/abstraction2] Note that the first path that I always set is to the current directory (.) - it's useful to have as well. Ciao ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed
On 8 Oct 2013, at 16:12, Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:37, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Hi Jamie, thanks for the effort! - would you mind sending me the binary? Please also let me know whether it works for your task. Hi, I've uploaded the binary here: http://d.pr/f/UkwJ We're using readanysf~ for now since there are ready-built binaries for both Mac and Windows we can just drop into our deployment builds with curl. Just to clarify, the advantage of readanysf~ here is that it is packaged with the requisite dependencies. I find this very helpful, and I don't think it would take much to package up fsplay~ in a similar way i.e. with libsndfile, libvorbis or whatever zipped up in the same directory as fsplay~ with the rpaths in the binary modified accordingly. Of course, I also appreciate you are maintaining a massive amount of externals, not just this one, so the above approach may be unfeasible. Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Direct-from-disk audio with position, loop, varispeed
Hey, you are right, there should be a packaging, or integration into pd-extended - but actually, i am not currently maintaining my externals at all because of a serious lack of time. They just work (or they don't). I have tried for years, but no one seems interested in volunteering to package or integrate flext and flext-based externals (xsample, py, dyn~, pool, fsplay~, clk, zeroconf and many others) for more general use. gr~~~ 2013/10/8 Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com On 8 Oct 2013, at 16:12, Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.com wrote: On 8 Oct 2013, at 15:37, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Hi Jamie, thanks for the effort! - would you mind sending me the binary? Please also let me know whether it works for your task. Hi, I've uploaded the binary here: http://d.pr/f/UkwJ We're using readanysf~ for now since there are ready-built binaries for both Mac and Windows we can just drop into our deployment builds with curl. Just to clarify, the advantage of readanysf~ here is that it is packaged with the requisite dependencies. I find this very helpful, and I don't think it would take much to package up fsplay~ in a similar way i.e. with libsndfile, libvorbis or whatever zipped up in the same directory as fsplay~ with the rpaths in the binary modified accordingly. Of course, I also appreciate you are maintaining a massive amount of externals, not just this one, so the above approach may be unfeasible. Jamie -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Is there a more permanent solution than that i.e. compilation instructions? btw, the colroGrid object from the mtl is an alright replacement https://github.com/patricksebastien/mtl On 8 October 2013 15:43, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu wrote: I have had trouble with it too, I’ll check my folder for a binary tonight and send it to ya pp From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM To: Patrick Pagano Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, Patrick Pagano bigsw...@ufl.edu a écrit : https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Look for pdpvjtools -Original Message- From: bv3...@gmail.com [mailto:bv3...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Roberts Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: PD List Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid isn't there On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] developer needed to port resonators~ to PD for ARM
hello friends, some of you may be aware of an old Max object named resonators~, from CNMAT: http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/patch/4019 i'm in search of a pd developer who's up for porting the object to pd. we have the source code and would like for it to run on ARM processors (i.e. RaspberryPi's, Udoo's, etc). i imagine that for someone with experience in writing audio externals for pd, it's a relatively easy process. if interested, please kindly contact me off the list. greetings, ali ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Designing Audio Objects for Pd
Hello I am wondering if anyone on list has got Eric Lyon's book Designing Audio Objects for Max/msp and pd? I have never made any objects for pd but I would like to try to give it a shot. I would like to know if anyone would like to try to make a few objects from some sources that I got several years ago from Christopher Penrose, there was this cool software called PVNation and I am wondering if anyone would like to make a few of the files into a few pd objects? I have attached one of the .c files if anyone is interested please let me know. Patrick aphrodite.c Description: aphrodite.c Makefile Description: Makefile helper.h Description: helper.h pv.h Description: pv.h ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Designing Audio Objects for Pd
I have a copy of the book checked out from the library. It's a really great intro to writing externals, although a solid understanding of C is really required to understand the book. The book unfortunately seems to be out of print, but I'd expect that Max/MSP would have some helpful documentation for writing externals. The process in Pd is very similar. I suppose I could give these source files a look, although I can't say for sure that I'll have the patience to transform them to externals. Uhhh... what do they do? I would guess a name like PVNation would refer to phase vocoder? Let me know if I can help you with anything! Brian On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Hello I am wondering if anyone on list has got Eric Lyon's book Designing Audio Objects for Max/msp and pd? I have never made any objects for pd but I would like to try to give it a shot. I would like to know if anyone would like to try to make a few objects from some sources that I got several years ago from Christopher Penrose, there was this cool software called PVNation and I am wondering if anyone would like to make a few of the files into a few pd objects? I have attached one of the .c files if anyone is interested please let me know. Patrick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list