Re: [PD] linux best for pd? / best linux for Pd? / On a Mac?
, in turn easy multichannel. Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. Now, is there a best linux for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to tweak in a little more to have insanely low latencies? Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly optimized latency and CPU load. Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy the opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular laptops. I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being next to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore (the best one) linux distribution in it. I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least) with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing is that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be cool, to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. Can't comment on those. Lorenzo. __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868 http://shumamisll.tumblr.com https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://expurgacao.art.br ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868 http://shumamisll.tumblr.com https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://expurgacao.art.br -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868 http://shumamisll.tumblr.com https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://expurgacao.art.br -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868 http://shumamisll.tumblr.com https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://expurgacao.art.br -- Esteban Viveros (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868 http://shumamisll.tumblr.com https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art http://expurgacao.art.br ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / PhD) contact: pedro.lo...@hpi.uni-postdam.de website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] same issue with pddroidparty 230
I'm having the same issue. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Josef (Seppo) Gruendler se...@mur.atwrote: Hello, have the same issue with lastest pddroidparty (PdDroidParty-debug-230.apk) on an archos 80 titanium with Android 4.1.1 it starts fine, but compatible patches found shows no patches. Put the files in /PdDroidParty, doule checked etc, put into the same folder as the program, nothing worked, any hint tnx Seppo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / PhD) contact: pedro.lo...@hpi.uni-postdam.de website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] check this out
EMG in action, detecting fingers through ML: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=6_7BzUED39A#! (Scott Saponas, UIST 09) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: EMG is potentially capable of this and with adequate filtering techniques there are papers out there that allow for fairly accurate detection of finger motions. More so, the video shows use of very distinct hand positions. In other words, it is not the gesture but hand shape that can be read accurately and interpreted. I suspect it also has a gyro/accelerometer that works in tandem with multiple EMG sensing points… ** ** *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *Hans-Christoph Steiner *Sent:* Friday, March 01, 2013 12:07 PM *To:* Dafydd Hughes *Cc:* pd list; i go bananas *Subject:* Re: [PD] check this out ** ** ** ** Also looks like that video was entirely faked. I see no evidence that any of that video footage was actually based on the sensor input. It probably works decently, but I highly doubt it works as well as the video. ** ** .hc ** ** On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Dafydd Hughes wrote: That looks like a lot of fun! ** ** On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:30 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:* *** just cos there's no description, i'll add it here: it's a muscle sensor that can be used for gestural control. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ** ** ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ** ** ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / PhD) contact: pedro.lo...@hpi.uni-postdam.de website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] leap motion controller
Yeah, a colleague has one, and mine should be arriving any day (super delayed though). The precision seems fine (e.g. compared to kinect). Frustum is small. Fps is good. really depends on what you want to do. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:29 PM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote: anyone seen this? https://leapmotion.com/ looks great for use with pd? pd + minority report m -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / PhD) contact: pedro.lo...@hpi.uni-postdam.de website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio output on Raspberry Pi - Recommendations?
edirol? Isn't uca222 a behringer card? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote: edirol uca222 works great. cheers c Le 04/01/2013 17:49, Miller Puckette a écrit : The best ide I got was from the Griffin iMic (thanks to Joe Deken over at New Blankets for running out and buying a bunch of cheap USB 'adapters' - the Griffin is $40 list / $27 street). The thing looks like an apple product but (as I discovered today looking at it) isn't. Good job of apple-style-imitation-without-** infringing-trademark. The other USB 'adapters' also worked but beware - some take more power than the Pi can supply and some are physically so bulky you can't get anything in the other USB slot - in either case you have to get a powered USB hub and live with a layer of additional uncertainty. cheers Miller On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:18:00AM -0800, Dirk Myers wrote: Folks: I've been digging through the list searching, haven't found a clear answer: what are folks using for audio output from the Raspberry Pi to a mixing board? I'm leaning toward trying a few USB audio interfaces. Curious about what others have used that is working well. Thanks, Dirk __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / PhD) contact: pedro.lo...@hpi.uni-postdam.de website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD AI
They are all different things. ANN, HMM, etc... this is machine learning, reasoning algorithms, and so forth. As far as I know Pd has no basic set of machine learning techs, such as openCV has. I'm not a huge fan of replicating tools, so I would take existing external tools and just interface with them, but since you point out that you are not happy with them, my suggestion is useless. Anyway two pointers: - http://sourceforge.net/projects/cvhmm/ (HMM) - http://opencv.willowgarage.com/documentation/cpp/neural_networks.html (NN) Best, pedro p.s.: this message is not opencv sponsored. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno lem...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Marco. I have been using OSC communications with other software, but I'm far from satisfied. I'll try ANN, thought. I am actually interested in working with Hidden Markov Models (and machine learning in general) and some filters for computer vision. Can I work with those using ANN? Best, Leandro On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Hey, I've been using the ANN library. I'm not sure it's still updated nor mantained these days, but it does work well for my purpose. http://puredata.info/search?SearchableText=ann That is, I've been using it to make my instrument (the Xth Sense [1]) detect a performer's muscle states throughout a piece by using 1 sensor only; then, labelling different states, such as still, motion, fast motion, slow motion. It's a basic implementation but useful to create a sensing timeline that changes with the performer behaviours, rather than with fixed time cues. Surely, there is much more to AI which cannot be presently done in Pd, at the best of my knowledge, I might be wrong though. Ben (Bogart) is our guy in this area. What are you using Ben? [1] http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/projects/xth-sense/ Hi all I have been wondering... Is there any AI implementation for PD? What have you been using for it? Best Leandro -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD AI
Regarding FTM : http://iem.kug.ac.at/fileadmin/media/iem/altdaten/projekte/publications/paper/ftm/ftm.pdfProbably the authors can speak more about it :) On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno lem...@gmail.com wrote: I'll try it then. I wonder there isn't a more ambitious approach for a broader AI package for PD. Honestly, one of the ugliest things I've done to work with machine learning was running an app built in Max/MSP and communicating with PD via OSC. Ah, the good old days... :) is there anything like FTM for PD? On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Probably :) ANN is based on Neural Networks. You don't have HMM. But I find it quite flexible. That said, I think it is a very good library to get started with AI, but if you want to get some heavy work done, other tools might be better. hope that helps, -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno lem...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Marco. I have been using OSC communications with other software, but I'm far from satisfied. I'll try ANN, thought. I am actually interested in working with Hidden Markov Models (and machine learning in general) and some filters for computer vision. Can I work with those using ANN? Best, Leandro On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Hey, I've been using the ANN library. I'm not sure it's still updated nor mantained these days, but it does work well for my purpose. http://puredata.info/search?SearchableText=ann That is, I've been using it to make my instrument (the Xth Sense [1]) detect a performer's muscle states throughout a piece by using 1 sensor only; then, labelling different states, such as still, motion, fast motion, slow motion. It's a basic implementation but useful to create a sensing timeline that changes with the performer behaviours, rather than with fixed time cues. Surely, there is much more to AI which cannot be presently done in Pd, at the best of my knowledge, I might be wrong though. Ben (Bogart) is our guy in this area. What are you using Ben? [1] http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/projects/xth-sense/ Hi all I have been wondering... Is there any AI implementation for PD? What have you been using for it? Best Leandro -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team. Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is there a kalman filter for pd? (if not I could probably provide one, if I make it :) )
Got it working, but just realized that some of you need a 1D kalman, and I was working on a 2D kalman. A cool version could accept params [kalman dim other params] Nothing works within pd yet, but lets see if I have time for that. I will also play around with some 1D implementations. best, p On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM, katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Cyrille. I've been playing around with median filters in a different context (spectral processing), but completely forgot about them. With the variometer, the problem is to isolate very low frequencies (the pressure gradient you want to detect) from DC (constant atmospheric pressure at certain height) and sensor noise frequencies. And you want to see results with accuracy and little delay. In fact it needs a very sharp minimum-phase filter. Maybe a median filter can 'preprocess' the signal in some way. Anyway it gives a new perspective. Katja On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote: for sensors data, depending of the noise, it can be useful to begin with a median filter. a median on the 7 last sample add 3 sample delay, but often remove lot's of noise. you can find them in mapping or puremapping libs. cheers cyrille Le 14/12/2012 11:38, katja a écrit : Patrick, the barometer sensor samplerate is ~50 Hz and I did the butterworth filter with regular Pd objects, not as external (see attached). In the Pd patch I modeled sensor noise (resolution 3 Pascal according to datasheet) and pressure gradient, simulating vertical speed through the air. The aim is to get 0.1 m/s accuracy in vertical speed reading. Theoretically, this would be almost possible with the butterworth. But our real sensor has much more noise than 3 Pascal resolution. Therefore I'm still interested in better filters. Katja On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi Katja, did you ported this filter: https://github.com/lebipbip/le-BipBip/blob/master/filter.c to an pd external? if yes could you share it? not sure if it would help my situation (noisy accelerometer 1 axis), but i would like to give it a shot. thx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is there a kalman filter for pd? (if not I could probably provide one, if I make it :) )
Wow, my email client never showed me that this email got an answer. @Domain: For me it was something much slower, such as smoothing a 50fps signal or so. But it could be applied at dsp block level i guess, and suited for audio. Let me start with a basic number version, than if works we upgrade. So, Charles, if there is no kalman, I'll be happy to code one (I can only do pure C, abstractions take more time for me). Lets see how it goes, and I'll publish it if it becomes usable - likely during over this period some call Christmas. This also mean I might get back to my dtw patch (presented at weimar), which some people (Marco, Koray, others?) were interested in - but that one needs double the work to become (even mildy) user-friendly. best pedro On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a good idea. I've wanted to do this (another one of those projects that I couldn't accomplish right now). I had in mind, noise reduction for recording--given that it only removes stationary correlated noise, it would be good for scrubbing the noise floor. Or--did you have in mind something much slower, to clean up the noise in measurements from a different kind of sensor? Also, do you want to program it as an external in C, or as an abstraction in Pd? On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwrote: -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] is there a kalman filter for pd? (if not I could probably provide one, if I make it :) )
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Re: [PD] bi-directional OSC over TCP from liblo
hey jamie, Yep, in this project (https://vimeo.com/24818342) it was going back and forth from the core app (cpp) to pd. Using OSC. Cannot recall if TCP or not, but can probably track it down. (that should not make much of a difference at least outside the network layer). So you send from liblo and pd receives, but no data unpacks? Did I get it write? If you open a ./oscdump on command line you get the data? (meaning it would be a pd-side issue...) Best, pedro On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.comwrote: Hi all, Apologies for the rather esoteric question. I'm trying to send OSC to/from Pd over TCP using the liblo OSC library and the mrpeach/ OSC externals [tcpserver], [packOSCstream] and [unpackOSCstream]. I've attached my testing patch. I am able to connect to [tcpserver] from liblo, and receive raw bytes. However, [unpackOSCstream] seems unable to unpack the data. It just outputs nothing for the bytes received. Likewise, if I send to liblo from [tcpserver] using the |client( selector, liblo crashes with the message error? message too short?. So, it seems like [packOSCstream] and [unpackOSCstream] are (un)packing message in a format that can't be used with external clients/servers. Is that correct? Has anyone else managed bi-directional communication using OSC over TCP with an external application? Thanks, Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bi-directional OSC over TCP from liblo
I just digged up my thesis (funny how memory works) and I was using UDP. So its TCP, so you can do liblo to liblo? (or for that matter processing using oscp5, which is fast to test). If so, could be something with pd objects. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jamie Bullock ja...@jamiebullock.comwrote: Hi Pedro, Thanks for the reply. To clarify I can OSC over *UDP* from liblo to/from Pd just fine using the mrpeach externals. It's using TCP, where I run into trouble. I think it's due to the streamed nature of TCP, and message boundaries, but I am not an expert on this. On 9 Nov 2012, at 14:00, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: hey jamie, Yep, in this project (https://vimeo.com/24818342) it was going back and forth from the core app (cpp) to pd. Using OSC. Cannot recall if TCP or not, but can probably track it down. (that should not make much of a difference at least outside the network layer). So you send from liblo and pd receives, but no data unpacks? Did I get it write? If you open a ./oscdump on command line you get the data? (meaning it would be a pd-side issue...) Yes that's correct. There is an example echo server that comes with liblo. I can get bidirectional communication liblo - using this example. If I replace one end of the communication with [tcpserver], liblo can connect, [tcpserver] receives data, but [unpackOSCstream] can't seem to unpack the data. Likewise [packOSCstream] doesn't seem to generate a data format that liblo can understand. best, Jamie -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ... and the battle with IT begins
Make your own build of pd from source code, rename it to Production_Ready and send it to your admins. :) On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Peter Brinkmann peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com wrote: jargon (production environment --- sounds really impressive but doesn't apply to your setting), and gratuitous use of the passive voice (will be installed --- act of God, I suppose). Sadly, I've encountered this kind of attitude at several universities. Good luck, -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] why does PD round numbers? (in tables, in messageboxes, etc)
If this happens, then it should be really given some thought. thinking out loud I guess one of the downsides of graphical dataflow is that we see what we get (kinda like WYSIWIG editors), therefore there should be a way to always get dirty and non rounded numbers on screen and onto loaded patches. Otherwise we are missing something essential. I see multiple ways pd could do it: 1) saving to file is always preserving precision and no rounding; GUI by default shows rounded versions for space sake or to avoid messy patches; tough the user has the possibility to choose a overall setting or per GUI object that enables him to see the full thing. or conversely 2) saving to file is always preserving precision and no rounding; GUI by default shows the real stored number; tough the user has the possibility to choose a overall setting or per GUI object that enables him to see only see rounded version on the object. /thinking out loud On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote: It's because Pd saves the value by printing it as text into the patch file using a reduced precision format specifier (%g instead of %f, or %0.6f) so that the numbers look good on screen, with no extra zeros for example. I don't like it either. Martin On 2012-04-07 22:40, Angakok Thoth wrote: that's not what i mean. i mean, that when i write 12345678 (must be 100% accurate within 32bit float with 24bit mantissa) into an array and read it from there, it's still 12345678. but when i save that patch, close it and reload it, and i read from the array, i get 12345700. nothing to do with limitations of floating point number. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:23 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com mailto:hard@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Floating_pointhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Hypo Chrysos, action art for vexed body and biophysical media
Awesome work Marco! best, pedro On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Hello folks, I finally managed to put on-line the video of the second, new performance work based on the Xth Sense. This work tries to investigate a very different field of interaction, if compared to my previous piece Music for Flesh II. Octophonic visceral sound, sensing video and 2 concrete blocks of 15kg each. http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/hypo-chrysos/ Feedback, critics and suggestions are more than welcome! and thanks Cyrille for the awesome pmpd workshop at the PdCon 2011 and shader tips! thanks, best wishes, -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?
Sees that git would be the way to go. Why not then? Would the migration mean huge workload for the admins? I've happily switch from svn and other managers to git, and living happily with git on my server. best, pedro On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43). Quoting Hans ... I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible. With much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing has been added since November, so its in feature freeze. - Having it on github will make that a easier too. You don't need to make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, ie git tag v0.1, then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball. - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for people to find - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals, ~/Library/Pd, etc. These are all steps that need to be done to get it into Pd-extended also, so it would not be wasted effort. ... __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]
I agree with Marco, 720px is usually a good in-between, to make it perfect for ALL mobile only really by doing a mobile version. I prefer left-alignment usually (call me left wing maybe!), but that's really a matter of personal taste. Probably center alignment is more overall matching. best, pedro On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: agree!! should we stick to margin: 0 auto, so to center it, or people is more left/ish? on my website the width is 720px and centered, which I find a good compromise for both laptop and mobile browsers. thoughts? M On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote: hello can i put a suggestion in for fixed width rather than stretched? fixed will retain all the design elements and text nicely stretched just looks sloppy to me. thanks! m On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris. This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's easy to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful. Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description. attached there's a screenshot.. M On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: Hey folks, I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit. However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website. How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows. M On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: Hi Chris, I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout! But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier. talk soon, M On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: The one thing I miss is the news section. Yeah for sure. It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd progressed? Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd version of that patch? Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :) Maybe a simpler patch could work. Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch
Re: [PD] puredata.info site design provocation
Cool! Like the cleaner look. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: The one thing I miss is the news section. Yeah for sure. It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd progressed? Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd version of that patch? Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :) Maybe a simpler patch could work. Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Altova Mapforce
UML can be an italian dish as well... http://www.lattix.com/files/images/technology/antuml.jpg I used to work with modelling source from UML (old days) and it was worse than my spaghetti in pd. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.comwrote: On 23/02/12 04:24, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If that may reassure you... not only Pd has messes of uncooked spaghetti going under boxes and stuff. And not only dataflow diagrams have them. This is an example in a data-relational diagram in a database app : http://www.altova.com/images/**landing_page/mapforce_** screenshot_large.pnghttp://www.altova.com/images/landing_page/mapforce_screenshot_large.png And at least in Pd you can subpatch.. Graphs can get pretty tricky too, especially when created automatically: http://perro.si/wp-content/**uploads/2008/08/bb.gifhttp://perro.si/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/bb.gif And cooking the spaghetti softens the spaghetti but it's still spaghetti. Ugh, softened spaghetti are terrible - they are the buffer overflow of pasta cooking!! OTOH, it would be a lot more readable already if the middle boxes were just placed in proper places... True... Maybe also a vertical flow instead of horizontal. __**__** __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Xth Sense awarded first prize first prize at Guthman Musical Instrument Competition
the specific object that printed it. That even works for many messages from other objects as well. The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for monitoring the input and output levels. And for those who want to play with the GUI in realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and directly modify and probe the running GUI. One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI plugins. You can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many behaviors. Want to create a new object when you triple-click? Try the tripleclick example plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you leave Edit Mode? Check out the ?only show cords in edit mode? example. Those are the simple ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine for the docs, a category browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for creating objects, and more. You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads page as well as documentation for making your own. What kind of GUI plugin will write? ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ?ngel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ?ngel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ?ngel Faraldo _ www.angelfaraldo.info -- ___ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 108 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osc logger
Just to log i used oscpack (http://www.rossbencina.com/code/oscpack) in command line and just dump the whole thing ./oscpack whatever arguments logfile And use some scripts to automatically rename logs, and etc... best, Pedro On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Try using [textfile] for writing to a soundfile. I've had good luck with it. .hc On Feb 18, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Jeppi Jeppi wrote: Hi all, I build a [coll]-based OSC logger to save to a file all the OSC activity received from the network (coming from 9 to 12 nodes). Unfortunately it seems it severely interferes with realtime audio in that PD instance when too much OSC is received. I wonder if any of you tried a different approach. Thanks in advance, Josep M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] run commandline from within pd
I always use [shell] to trigger commands, but there is also [system] - both work by sending the command as a [command-to-tun( message. best, pedro On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM, James Mckernon jmcker...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect. Thanks, both. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:33 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote: perhaps try [shell] object (ggee lib I think) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James Mckernon jmcker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a simple way to run an outside command from inside pure data on linux? I'd really like it if I could just click a button from within pd to run 'xset -r' and 'xset r' to turn keyboard repeat off and on again respectively. Thanks! James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: faster than Fourier transform
quote them: A recording, on the other hand, of all possible instruments each playing all possible notes at once wouldn’t be sparse — but neither would it be a signal that anyone cares about. If I didn't get it wrong: I think they mention the premise is the opposite of white noise, thus signals do not exhibit the behavior of white noise (spread out through all spectrum). Once again, its just a tool, and tools are useful for certain cases, and not useful for other cases. Like the hammer. Best, pedro On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: Le 2012-01-20 à 23:55:00, Andy Farnell a écrit : Considering the paper is unpublished and sparse decomposition is a pretty heavy topic I thought that is a really nice bit of science journalism by Larry Hardesty. Since periodic music signals probably fit the bill quite well it's good news for our kind of work. Does it have better upper bounds ? If not, it doesn't change much for realtime. E.g. if I feed something somewhat like a white noise to this FFT, what exactly will it try skipping ? Every harmonic will be fairly nonzero. __**__** __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gesture recognition
Hi all, Indeed I have an DTW external, still need to find free time to get it there for everyone (as a working external, and probably only for linux - not enough free time!). Anyhow when I did my presentation at this year's pdcon, I did show easystroke as an example. Easystroke is absolutely fantastic, and the recognizer is robust for my usage (I have about 20 gestures that I use for more than a year, to control the OS). That would be an interesting take on the gesture recognition issue. If your gestures are not multi-streamed (e.g., multitouch) you can also use on of the many 1$ gesture recognizer implementations out there - which is a very famous calligraphic recognizer. e.g., http://depts.washington.edu/aimgroup/proj/dollar/ hope it helps, Best, Pedro p.s.: regarding the DTW, I still need some time, but its definitely gonna happen. Although for calligraphic gesture detection it is very robust, I would go for easystroke or 1$. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.frwrote: hello, there is something you can try on linux or osx, by sending events to [x11mouse] and then easystroke http://www.workinprogress.ca/gesture-recognition-in-pure-data-with-easystroke/ Colet Patrice - Mail original - De: Matthias Moos feuerb...@gmail.com À: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Lundi 21 Novembre 2011 15:22:26 Objet: [PD] gesture recognition Dear PD-List I recently decided to get into gesture recognition for several different performance-art purposes. one of them is for fireshows, where i would like to be able to control events on my computer throug the circling movements of torches. another one needs to be able to recognize simple gestures with the hand like swyping, cyrcling etc. my question: has anyone worked with gesture-recognition? are there specific objects or patches? tracking-wise i would use an infrared-cam or wiimote-ir for the fire, for the hand-gestures maybe a normal webcam which films the hand only, on the side of my body. big thanks for reading and any ideas or suggestions! greets, matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/pedro.lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] question about echo and shell
I usually go for [system] for simple shell related things and it works with echo perfectly (but once again its in ubuntu). On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM, philippe boisnard philem...@mac.comwrote: Yop ok for Ubuntu, but I m on OSX who can try on OSX ? thx p Le 11 sept. 2011 à 09:28, Ingo a écrit : I had it working on Ubuntu before. Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von philippe boisnard Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. September 2011 09:14 An: Pd List Betreff: [PD] question about echo and shell Hello I want to use this expression with [shell] [echo patatiptata | tee -a /Applications/puredata/32- espacedeportation/test.txt no result ? when I try with terminal no problem. why echo doesn't fonction with shell ? p ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin
Cool plugin. Although I am experiencing a weird bug: - it only draws the arrows ONCE by any event the pd window is redrawn - events that I tried and worked (thus the arrows magically appear): save patch, move patch window. change desktop. - events that do not do nothing: moving stuff inside the patch (moving an object, drawing new coords). Could be an X/ubuntu issue, maybe its just here. I have to try on other machines (anyway: Ubuntu 10.10, gnome, pd 0.43 extended latest nigthly build, your plugin was downloaded from the list, second mail you sent with the bugfix) best regards, pedro On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:23 AM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote: cool... like this ...thanks Hans! On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Thanks for the bug report. This version should fix that: .hc On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Roviriego wrote: forgot to mention the arrowheads are working, besides the error message: Using Ubuntu 10.10. Tcl version 8.5.8-2build1 and tk version 8.5.8-1 cheers 2011/8/16 Daniel Roviriego daniferna...@gmail.com Hi Hans.. Iḿ getting this error trying to use the plugin invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c while executing $tkcanvas itemconfigure cord -arrow none (procedure add_arrows_to_cords line 8) invoked from within add_arrows_to_cords .gfxstub8566bd8 (command bound to event) cheers 2011/8/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I whipped up a quick plugin to add arrowheads to cord when in editmode. The arrowheads clearly show the direction that the messages are flowing. .hc Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin
really cool, I feel that this can be a real usability addition to pd. Thanks! On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Yeah, it currently adds the arrowheads only when changing to EditMode. This inspired me to make it possible to more. I just made a patch to make custom cord drawing easy to do in a plugin, its here: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3400300group_id=55736atid=478072 I'll include it in Pd-extended too. .hc On Aug 29, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: Cool plugin. Although I am experiencing a weird bug: - it only draws the arrows ONCE by any event the pd window is redrawn - events that I tried and worked (thus the arrows magically appear): save patch, move patch window. change desktop. - events that do not do nothing: moving stuff inside the patch (moving an object, drawing new coords). Could be an X/ubuntu issue, maybe its just here. I have to try on other machines (anyway: Ubuntu 10.10, gnome, pd 0.43 extended latest nigthly build, your plugin was downloaded from the list, second mail you sent with the bugfix) best regards, pedro On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:23 AM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: cool... like this ...thanks Hans! On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Thanks for the bug report. This version should fix that: .hc On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Roviriego wrote: forgot to mention the arrowheads are working, besides the error message: Using Ubuntu 10.10. Tcl version 8.5.8-2build1 and tk version 8.5.8-1 cheers 2011/8/16 Daniel Roviriego daniferna...@gmail.com Hi Hans.. Iḿ getting this error trying to use the plugin invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c while executing $tkcanvas itemconfigure cord -arrow none (procedure add_arrows_to_cords line 8) invoked from within add_arrows_to_cords .gfxstub8566bd8 (command bound to event) cheers 2011/8/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I whipped up a quick plugin to add arrowheads to cord when in editmode. The arrowheads clearly show the direction that the messages are flowing. .hc Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] autobuild site down?
Works now. On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Its hosted here, so it looks like their whole internet connection is down: http://www.poly.edu .hc On Aug 27, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Pedro Lopes wrote: Is autobuild site down? http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] autobuild site down?
Is autobuild site down? http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multichannel instalation
Using the Saffire to get multichannel on win/mac is very easy: - pd outputs to dac~ 1 2 3 n - on the saffire mix control, route the inputs to DAW 1, DAW 2, and so forth. instead of line 1, line 2 (this is the trick) - route each of the MIX to the selected pair of speakers you want (click on the master of the mix and select the output channel). (for each mix, mute all DAW in that are not relevant, or else you get more than one out per speaker) we use it here for a master thesis, its running pd on Win, until I manage to get my saffire back again with FFADO (not as easy as it should be) best, Pedro On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: You're welcome, no, you just set it once and it get stored into the hardware. Then you only open the Interface again when you need a different setup. -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe
That's the danger of low level manipulation :D [adc~] | [* 1000] | [dac~] not the best idea :) Put the volume low always, and be extremely careful. OR: compressor? peak limiter? (after the headphones...) Because if you are suggesting to be code careful that might mess up all the fun. Best, Pedro On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle analy...@gmail.com wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at lowest system volumes, it seems that Terrible Things can happen. Are there any precautions that I can take to make it feel less like I'm taking my life into my hands when I have to use headphones? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe
*~ :D On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: That's the danger of low level manipulation :D [adc~] | [* 1000] | [dac~] not the best idea :) Put the volume low always, and be extremely careful. OR: compressor? peak limiter? (after the headphones...) Because if you are suggesting to be code careful that might mess up all the fun. Best, Pedro On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle analy...@gmail.comwrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at lowest system volumes, it seems that Terrible Things can happen. Are there any precautions that I can take to make it feel less like I'm taking my life into my hands when I have to use headphones? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe
I hate dentist drills. I second that. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote: On 2011-08-23 18:25, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Do you mean: [osc~ some-frequency] | [*~ ] ? I don't think so. Hz is around dentist drill frequency, so it hurts ;). Your dac can never go above one no matter what you feed it, while the perceived loudness of a loud sound varies according to its harmonic content. So I guess it's somewhat subjective what sound source gives the loudest apparent output. An [osc~] multiplied by will sound louder but it won't actually be louder than an osc multiplied by one (the amplitude at the output will still be between 1 and -1). The idea is to set the master volume so that the loudest sound you can make will not break anything, whether speakers or ears or inner peace. The easiest way to do that is to play the loudest sound first and adjust the volume so that it's loud but not too loud. Then everything else you do will be quieter than that. Martin --**--** *From:* tim vets timv...@gmail.com *To:* Martin martin.pe...@sympatico.ca *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [PD] making puredata headphone-safe 2011/8/23 Martin martin.pe...@sympatico.ca mailto:martin.peach@**sympatico.ca martin.pe...@sympatico.ca On 23/08/11 03:29 PM, Stephen Lavelle wrote: I've managed to hurt my ears twice over the past two days when using PD w/ headphones. Even at lowest system volumes, it seems that Terrible Things can happen. Are there any precautions that I can take to make it feel less like I'm taking my life into my hands when I have to use headphones? Try making a [noise~] connected directly to a [dac~] and set the headphone volume so you can live with that. Nothing will ever be louder than that. Martin [osc~ ] may not be louder than [noise~], but definitely more painful...no? __**___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/__**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/__listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid under ubuntu maverick
Do you need me to test anything? send you patch, i also have a synaptics touchpad and ubuntu 10.10. If you really cannot get the touchpad on pd, maybe try using synclient and parse the data. Go to the console and synclient -m 0 And it gives you all the touchpad data. But then again people that are used to [hid] can probably guide you into a more pd-friendly solution. :) best of luck, Pedro On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Diego Azar dazar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem with my laptop touchpad (synaptic) under ubuntu maverick. It isn't a permission issue because I have already done the udev thing and everything is working perfectly except the touchpad. Pd recognize it and hid can open it but it can't recieve any data. I tried it in other laptops with same ubuntu and the same thing happened. Any suggestions? thanks, Diego. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PS/2 mouse+Arduino+Pd=awesome?
PS/2 to USB adapter. http://www.amazon.com/Adesso-Adapter-connects-connectors-ADP-PU21/dp/B8ZPED have fun. We use them in the labs, works fine. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.comwrote: That's a good idea but my computer doesn't have a PS/2 input. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Hi, Richie Cyngler wrote: Now I'm thinking of hacking a PS/2 mouse/trackball into my Uno and I'd like to use it to control Pd data. I'm wondering if I'm going to be able to get the data from the PS/2 trackball into Pd? Try attaching the mouse to the computer and use [hid]. I know some people that do like that (with , not pd) with 5 mice on the PC. Cheers, Charlot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PdDroidParty v72
Yes. It does. I send from droidparty to procesing using udp (no OSC, I dont need). On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Will droid party work with udpsend? Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Hello, PdDroidParty v72 is available here: http://mccormick.cx/projects/PdDroidParty/ It emulates some new built-in GUIS and some abstractions like [touch w h sendname], which is a 2d touch surface. Enjoy. Ouch, I have a headache, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PdDroidParty v72
No problem in posting that to the list. Only the first touched slider responds. I can upload a video of that behaviour if you want. Best On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Hi Pedro, I hope you don't mind me posting this back to the list. On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Pedro Lopes wrote: Also I wanted to ask you this: how tough would it be to have multi-touch support? (just dreaming a bit maybe). Yes! That would be awesome. Let's get this thing all Lemur-ed up. I have no multitouch device myself but I will figure out what this means in the code and send you an updated build to test some time, hopefully soon. It's in the TODO list! :) By the way, what happens now if you e.g. try to slide two sliders at once? Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] watching PD tutorial video using vlc and running PD at same time sound issues
It should not be much different from a tutorial I wrote some time ago (to get audio from the browser working at the same time of PD, using jack and pulseaudio-module-jack): http://puredata.info/docs/JackRoutingMultichannelAndBrowserAudio/?searchterm=jack Vlc also works with jack. See here http://www.goplexian.com/2010/02/setting-up-jack-audio-for-gstreamer.html (on the final part) On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:21 PM, OIivier Heinry oliv...@heinry.fr wrote: Le 05/07/2011 20:33, Rick T a écrit : Greetings All I'm using PD extended 0.42.5 and vlc 1.1.10 on Ubuntu 64 bit. I'm trying to play the tutorial videos in vlc while pd is running but the two seem to fight over the sound card and PD seems to win so I can't hear the PD tutorial audio. Is there a way that I can watch the pd video tutorials in vlc and use the PD program at the same time so sound comes out of both? Set them up to both use the Jack API and patch using qjackctl or patchage. ++ Tia ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Portfolio http://olivier.heinry.fr Blog http://www.heinry.fr/olivier ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 2d touch abstraction
Thanks Chris. I'm gonna try the new pddroid with bang in a few minutes. Best and thanks for the work, Pedro On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: Hi, For the PdDroidParty GUI I wanted to support some kind of 2d touch surface in patches so I made this little GOP datastructure abstraction. Hopefully this is useful to someone else. Support for this should hopefully be in the app soon! Instantiate it in an object box like this: [touch x-size y-size receiver-name] Cheers, Chris. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] zip archives
ialwaysResolveStuffTheEasyWay Are you on UNIX? You can do it all via shell commands. /ialwaysResolveStuffTheEasyWay Probably there is a fancier way, but I don't know. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Cody Loyd codyl...@gmail.com wrote: can PD access files that are found in a ZIP archive? if so.. HOW? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3d sinewave
Just tested it, and it looks pretty cool in GEM. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hi jack, that's great fun, i've modified it a bit: Am 03.06.2011 um 18:06 schrieb Jack: Hello Max, Have a look at this patch and shaders. ++ Jack Le vendredi 03 juin 2011 à 17:21 +0200, Max a écrit : dear list, i've been trying to make a 3d sine wave like on this image: http://lh4.ggpht.com/mihir3445/SBHWmG4KGxI/AxY/I0XfllImW98/%5BUNSET%5D.png in gem, ideally interactive that might become the CI for the PdCon, any help is appreciated. max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list maxWaves.zip ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] -nogui = no audio
Have you tried that old technique where you delay the start of the audio a bit? like loadbang | delay 2000 | your dsp toggle. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net wrote: Hi I just switched from ubuntu 10.04 to mint (which is supposed to be more or less the same but lighter), since ubuntu refused to run headless on the fit-pc2 which I'm using. I'm running Pd extended 0.42.5 Everything is fine except that if I run pd with the -nogui command the audio gets stuck on startup. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks Peter Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net http://petersinclair.org http://nujus.net http://locusonus.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] -nogui = no audio
Then you should definitely try to isolate issues, trying without pulse audio, gui vs. no-gui, and so forth. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net wrote: I had tried that but, it turns out that it seems to be something to do with pulse audio, when I switch it off in startup applications everything seems to be fine. I've no idea why it would have anything to do with gui or nogui! Thanks for your response best Peter On 4 juin 11, at 18:33, Pedro Lopes wrote: Have you tried that old technique where you delay the start of the audio a bit? like loadbang | delay 2000 | your dsp toggle. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net wrote: Hi I just switched from ubuntu 10.04 to mint (which is supposed to be more or less the same but lighter), since ubuntu refused to run headless on the fit-pc2 which I'm using. I'm running Pd extended 0.42.5 Everything is fine except that if I run pd with the -nogui command the audio gets stuck on startup. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks Peter Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net http://petersinclair.org http://nujus.net http://locusonus.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch Peter Sinclair petes...@nujus.net http://petersinclair.org http://nujus.net http://locusonus.org -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom
Here (ANDROID 2.2) the circle of fifths works ine,so probably 3.1 is too cutting edge. :) On Monday, May 30, 2011, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: How about an .apk of pd on puredata.info? :-) pp On 5/29/11 10:16 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Full Pd for Android is here now and working as well as a sound app can on Android. Android 3.1 is very new, so you're on the cutting edge. If you haven't already, I'd build the apps from source and try that. Otherwise, there needs to be some fixes for 3.1 .hc On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 20:02 -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote: I tried the PdTEst and it works and gives me two very smooth sine tones, the circle of fifths patch and the sceneplayer both crash and do not run. I am excited to see the development of pd on these mobile devices. I think some of the other coding is a bit out of my league. How far off do you think a full pd for Android is? A year? pp On 5/29/11 4:19 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again). Best, Pedro On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them) that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and I just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me (http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd). Could be a starting point. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love to see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was from Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible. I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in building/compiling pd for this mobile device. Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to work, or have any info on IF it will work at all? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom
There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them) that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and I just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me ( http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd). Could be a starting point. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Hello I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love to see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was from Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible. I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in building/compiling pd for this mobile device. Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to work, or have any info on IF it will work at all? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd for Motorola Xoom
And by the way, i mean this: http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pd-for-android and the people are (at least for what I know): Peter Brinkmann and Chris McCormick (kudos to them, once again). Best, Pedro On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: There's a lot of stuff from some members of this list (kudos to them) that are working with pd on android. I'm not a mobile dev myself, and I just done really basic experiments with libpd ad it worked for me (http://gitorious.org/pdlib/pages/Libpd). Could be a starting point. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Hello I just got a Motorola Xoom for an early birthday Gift and I was wondering HOW TO get pure data to run on Honeycomb 3.1. I would love to see if it will run my patches for Pd. I have about two weeks to test the device out before I am allowed to return it. The purchase was from Best buy in the US. So my goals are actually to get Pure Data and SuperCollider to run on the thing if possible. I see that there is a how to in the developer section but it seems a few months old and I am not sure the best way to proceed in building/compiling pd for this mobile device. Can someone point me in the right direction for getting this to work, or have any info on IF it will work at all? pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 4 cameras for tracking people in a space
Of course it would. :) Computationally you could do all in GPU and track everything fast as hell . . . Or parallelize chunks of code into a multicore, and so forth. But I don't really care. Tracking blobs with OpenCV takes me about 8ms (VGA size camera) in a normal computer, and without a threaded approach, so perfect, suits me without worries, i can have just stich two cams and it gives about 14ms, which is more than great for me. On May 24, 2011 7:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-23 19:55, Pedro Lopes wrote: It seems just: image blending. Each camera sees a portion (quarter) of the floor, and you blend (or stitch) the images, then supply them to the tracking algorithm as single image. computationally more efficient could be to do tracking on the 4 separate images and then stitch together the resulting data. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3bXlYACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRmogCfWz4eOymxzS5t3MxgJKuk6IyC QWQAnjR3g94Wv7swKzjUZv6ANDx6XuQT =SPVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 4 cameras for tracking people in a space
It seems just: image blending. Each camera sees a portion (quarter) of the floor, and you blend (or stitch) the images, then supply them to the tracking algorithm as single image. Or... kinect. :D (really depends on what you want, I'm just messing) On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:22 PM, ronni montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.comwrote: HI, I been working on interactive installations for public spaces usually i put one camera in the roof pointing to the floor, i always have the problem that i need to have the camera 6 or 7 meters in the roof to track 4 * 4 meters space aproximately and thats a very big limitation since there are a lot of spaces that doesnt allow to put a camera 7 meters up. The thing is that i went to a conference where a guy explained he used 4 cameras to track people in a space instead of just one and you dont need to have a high roof . I would like to know if somebody know this technique for tracking people in spaces with 4 cameras ? thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] XY abstraction
I'm trying to find an already-made XY abstraction, and it seems that this could be the one: - http://puredata.info/Members/bbogart/XY-Controller/view Although I cannot use it, what file type is this? Best, Pedro p.s.: I did some digging into file type and I got: pedro@io:~/Downloads$ file file file: gzip compressed data, was xy-controller.tar, from FAT filesystem (MS-DOS, OS/2, NT), last modified: Mon Jun 2 23:29:18 2003 But even so, it doesn't uncompress here in my Linux. -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] XY abstraction
The issue is I get an: gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error It sees the files so I can get them, I'll try to extract them anyway (forcing it). Best regards, Pedro On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:25 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-19 16:20, Pedro Lopes wrote: I'm trying to find an already-made XY abstraction, and it seems that this could be the one: - http://puredata.info/Members/bbogart/XY-Controller/view Although I cannot use it, what file type is this? p.s.: I did some digging into file type and I got: pedro@io:~/Downloads$ file file file: gzip compressed data, was xy-controller.tar, from FAT so the file type is gz and was made from xy-controller.tar filesystem (MS-DOS, OS/2, NT), last modified: Mon Jun 2 23:29:18 2003 But even so, it doesn't uncompress here in my Linux. tools are getting too intelligent nowadays, as they refuse to gunzip files not endig with gz. so this should work: $ cat file | gunzip -c | tar xv or this: $ mv file xy-controller.tar.gz $ tar xvzf xy-controller.tar.gz fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3VNlsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRuMgCglDS+44GVgPUl3YZSpLzJuruL uesAn0TmJKTYeZhNyKPhsv6/9+fXwkUH =S+WL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] XY abstraction
Yes, I have it running now. It gives the extract error, by it gets the files. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: The issue is I get an: gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error It sees the files so I can get them, I'll try to extract them anyway (forcing it). Best regards, Pedro On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:25 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-19 16:20, Pedro Lopes wrote: I'm trying to find an already-made XY abstraction, and it seems that this could be the one: - http://puredata.info/Members/bbogart/XY-Controller/view Although I cannot use it, what file type is this? p.s.: I did some digging into file type and I got: pedro@io:~/Downloads$ file file file: gzip compressed data, was xy-controller.tar, from FAT so the file type is gz and was made from xy-controller.tar filesystem (MS-DOS, OS/2, NT), last modified: Mon Jun 2 23:29:18 2003 But even so, it doesn't uncompress here in my Linux. tools are getting too intelligent nowadays, as they refuse to gunzip files not endig with gz. so this should work: $ cat file | gunzip -c | tar xv or this: $ mv file xy-controller.tar.gz $ tar xvzf xy-controller.tar.gz fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3VNlsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRuMgCglDS+44GVgPUl3YZSpLzJuruL uesAn0TmJKTYeZhNyKPhsv6/9+fXwkUH =S+WL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
P.s./off topic: I think you dont want to know how low is the minimum wage around here. Just open the news and you'll see how portugal is ina deep financial mess, somewhere in the line of what happened to greece or some other EU countries. I like that volunteer concept, seems fare. On May 17, 2011 11:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Also, kind of an odd question, but since I did not find a... Note that in practice, the check for reduced registration was quite lax, and as a result, very few people took full registration. I don't have figures of how many people paid full registration, how many people paid reduced registration, and how many people volunteered for 8 hours each instead. I know people who can answer those questions if it's good to know. BTW, 8 hours of volunteering in exchange of 50 $ fee equivalent is quite below minimum wage, which was 8,00 $ back then, I think (it's 9,65 $ now). BTW, 1 $ canadian was 0,69½ € back then, 0,72 € now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard t... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
Also, kind of an odd question, but since I did not find any info on the subject I might as just well ask (risking to sound stupid): - how much is the registration on the PdCon2011? (I ask this since I found out that info regarding the 2007 edition: http://pure-data.artengine.ca/en/registration ) Best, Pedro On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 More statistics: from the 41 valid submissions the programming comittee accepted 30 based on the reviewers comments and suggestions. With 16 available slots of 30 minutes this unfortunately means that there will be parallel sessions for most of the paper presentations. Originally this wasn't what we wanted but after seeing so many great topics and papers we decided that this is the only solution. Even the papers we rejected had very interesting aspects and valuable content worth to share, but we simply couldn't fit everything and had to draw the line somewhere. The work of the reviewers helped us a lot in that process, Thank you very much, your commitment was valuable and appreciated. We'll try to group the presentations together in topics and announce the preliminary schedule tomorrow(-ish). Max Am 15.04.2011 um 23:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia. I was involved in DebConf10, and also it had not a lot of papers, though it is much bigger and on its 12th year. We also had a rolling acceptance policy, so people were continuing to submit until a month or two after the deadline. .hc On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Max wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Mathieu, I know you like precise information. Hence I'll give you the facts so you don't have to speculate about them: we received 42 Submissions, yours was #39 and you weren't the last one who submitted in time. Another respected community member from Poland submitted at exactly 24:00. Since we have a warm heart we did accept additional 3 submissions which didn't meet the deadline. Thus the last ID is #43. (ID #1 was just a dummy, ID #37 was a workshop which we handle without review) Greetings, Max Am 11.04.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2) reminder BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00. (I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk2my8sACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6K5LACfVVJfKIKIfA2fjRdypx7ylPog glAAnjdgi3Hc4UW46fbENKHEEUfdBfzI =XTsa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk3RUdIACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6KQ2gCeIrtfj8dnjZGxO+FUgDSV6Y0u 8FMAnRqg1OoQ8sOAXlR6rra5d3I+4H6r =27iS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] CVs
That reminds me of a brilliant quote by Mathieu, a while ago: If you throw a 44100 Hz soundcard in space at 259627884 metres per second, it will appear to run at 22050 Hz. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote: what about, if you had a wammy bar as long as an aircraft carrier, and then you struck it with a large chunk of dark matter? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
Ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu are all the same distro with just a different flavor for the window manager system (X). On May 7, 2011 9:34 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 08:45 PM, Fernando Gadea wrote: Hi list! If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, Pd is designed to have a constant latency. so Pd's (and the system's) latency will never when moving a slider (well, unless you control a delay with the slider or do some other explicit latency fuddling, but that's a different story) or maybe you are referring to GUI latency? e.g the slider starts to visually respond very slowly (it seems like in CM-talk, latency mostly refers to audio latency). without having looked at your patch, a good chance is that you have created some control feedback. fgmasdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3FEc8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvR1fQCdEGsRD4QqEaMLxhJpEr3MblTO kpcAoPTP2Rf14/nCN+GI3IOhBTP9B4xV =Oh4I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Workshop: Switch from PureData! (Barcelona)
Let people choose which they prefer, no harm in doing publicity to the workshop here - funny catch phrase for a workshop. I don't mind personally. I use both, and I each has its advantages (i.e: I cannot write/prototype with SC as fast as with PD). Best, Pedro On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.comwrote: It's not an anti-pd workshop per se... It's just about SuperCollider. The problem is with the promotion then? Consider the catching phrase just a joke to undo the opposite marketing strategy that graphical programming is better blah blah... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Streaming pd_LAunch Workshops, today and tomorrow
Camcorder + sceen capture (be sure to have some free gigabytes) are a neat way to solve that. Best and good workshops, Pedro 2011/4/29 Theron Trowbridge theron.trowbri...@gmail.com Sorry about that - we were attempting to record it, but there was a hiccup and the bulk of Hans's workshop was unfortunately lost on UStream. I recorded it with a camcorder as a backup and will work to get that available in some form and will update everyone here. Unfortunately, the screen doesn't show up very well, so it might not be all that useful to everyone. Barring any similar problems, we will be recording Chris's workshop tonight as well. And will use the camcorder as well. And I will see if we can make the screen more legible. One note - Chris's workshop starts at 19:00 PDT, a half hour earlier than Hans's started, as it is planned to be a bit longer. -Theron ^ On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:54 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you say if they're being recorded? 19h30 LA time is very late here in central europe. There's a link for a snippet of your conference yesterday, http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14347285, but it's only ~2 minutes. João http://pd-la.info/pd-launch-schedule/ As part of the Crashspace pd_LAunch festival, Chris McCormick and I are teaching workshops. There should be a live stream coming soon, mine workshop is today at 19:30 Pacific time (in two hours), and Chris' is tomorrow at the same time. Tune in here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/crash-space-live .hc I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
Why not something like an informal talk in Berlin part? (Maybe should talk to João Pais or the other PD Berliners regarding that) or even... A workshop regarding webpd, where we all coded for you (muahahah) [1]. [1] I'd like that, i'm very (theoretical) supportive of webpd, although haven't coded anything yet. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 05:15:53PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The papers are only one part of PdCon. People who work in academia are used to submitting papers, but Pd users are probably mostly not in academia. I should have submitted something about WebPd but the idea of writing a whole paper about it scared me off as I would feel much more productive spending that time writing code. I generally just make slides for a talk, and they don't have many words on them. Of course, I am not here asking for special treatment or anything, I realise this is the normal way of doing things in academia as Hans says, I just wanted to put out one data-point to agree with what Hans wrote above. Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT Audio Player HELP!
PD can perform that, even better mocp can perform that, never tried cross fades but probably it does that. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Dear pd Friends I have a sort of OT question that i thought i would post here I have a friend who is doing an installation for a doctors office and he sent me these three requests He is using linux, i am pretty sure ubuntu and gnome he needs it to 1.) Network controlled audio player 2.) cross fade songs on command not just at end of song 3.) be command line or tcp socket i thought maybe esd or ecasound might do it but it loks like they do not Any suggestions would be appreciated, the office opens monday and he, while a good programmer needs a quick fix for the ribbon cutting Can PD perform this without GUI? thanks! pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. Then according to you data, Weimar has about 40. PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers. And Montréal had about the same. Seems ok, imho its a very idiosyncratic conference. Best regards, Pedro On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons? PdConvention Graz had no submission process for papers. PdConvention Montréal had something like 43 or 46 submissions for papers. PdConvention São Paulo had... I don't remember (or perhaps I never knew). ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arduino, any feedback to help me choose the model?
Beware that analogue inputs (can) have noise (they fluctuate a little). The analogRead() command converts the input voltage range, 0 to 5 volts, to a digital value between 0 and 1023. If you can settle with 12 inputs the Uno will suffice: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardUno p.s.: Multiplexing/de-multiplexing is the ability of addressing (or conversely be addressed) of several outputs with fewer inputs. You have chips that do that, example with 3 binary digits you can multiplex to 8 outputs, with 000 being the first, 001 the second, etc,.. up to the 111, which would be the 8th. People also call it MUX and DEMUX. On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pedro, thank you for this quick response. - Yes, size does matter, because it all needs to fit in a stombox. But the boards don't seem to be to large anyway... - Price matters too (i'm not gonna buy the one at at 130 or something). - What is multiplex? I need something like 12 simple switches (digital inputs??), and maybe 3 or 4 analog inputs (i v'e read on their website that one can have up to 6, is that right?). The only thing that really matters concerning the analog inputs is the resolution. I just read somwhere on their website that one board outputs integers from 0 to a little more than 1000 for it's analog inputs. If this is true, this would mean than i would get a resolution that's a little less than 10 times higher than that of my gamepad. But there seems to be different boards with different a difference resolution (i'm assuming it's 8, 16 or 32 bit, am i right?). I don't know if i can order any pre-assembled model with any board. I also saw that the board could power LEDs. This could be very interesting, because i'm going to assign a switch to the connection of the expression pedal (analog) with certain parts of my patch. So for instance at startup the pedal controls effect 1, and if i push the button i goes to effect 2, etc., and only goes back to effect 1 after it's reached the last pedal-controlled effect. So it'd be nice to have one LED for each effect on my stompbox so that i know exactly which one is currently controlled by the pedal. Do you think I could program this easily? Pierre 2011/4/10 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt They have a lot of models (not accounting for spin-offs done by other folks, which some are great - long live open hardware), I think there are some more parameters for choosing an arduino model: - Does size matters? - Does price matters? - 8 buttons + 1 potentiometer (in a pedal). Extendability up to 12. - do you wanna multiplex[1], or simple coding? Maybe if you really want a lot of inputs, Duemillianuove will not suffice, and maybe Mega is the way to go, but its more expensive and bigger. [1] http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Learning/4051 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I sorry to start yet another thread about arduino, but i'm too lazy to search the archives and i suppose that they are upgrading the different models frequently. I have been using a hacked gamepad-turned-stompbox to control my live patches, and right now i feel that it's time to build something else that would suit my needs more closely. I have to choose between a decent gamepad that i could hack and a arduino board. Only, i don't know anything about arduino. So it'd be nice if a list member could help me a little bit. Here's what i have right now : - 8 buttons + 1 potentiometer (in a pedal). I'd like to have more buttons (I could have 12 using the game controller, can i have more with a arduino board?). And it'd be nice if could have more analog pots (i could have up to 4 using the gamepad, but they're hard to solder...). Also, i'd like to know the resolution of the analog inputs of a arduino board. Is it higher than that of a gamepad? That'd be cool because i could have a smoother control over certain values in my patch. And finally, what do i need to connect the arduino board to Pd? Is it the HID object or something different? Any help welcome. Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arduino, any feedback to help me choose the model?
Depends on what you want the leds to do. If you simply want them to shine when buttons are pressed, dont waste arduino code on that. But if you want them to blink or react to the controller state (hence code) they'll have to be controlled via some digital pins (in output state) as Goyard stated, as thus you are requesting more pins (maybe the mega as I say in my first message). Althought: multiplexing LEDs is very easy. 3 outputs can control 8 leds and so forth. But more coding/control effort. On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Charles Goyard c...@fsck.fr wrote: Pierre Massat wrote: I also saw that the board could power LEDs. This could be very interesting, Yes, but the Digital Input are shared with the digital outputs. So if you put a button on a line, you cannot put a led too. You have up to 12 inputs/outputs IN TOTAL. You choose in your program if you want something to be a input or an output. Given your questions (no offense), I would go with a Mega board and not bother with multiplexing yet. That way you get a fully assembled, ready-to-use 50 inputs/outputs for your leds and buttons, + 16 analog inputs, with plenty of program space. -- Charles ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arduino, any feedback to help me choose the model?
You can filter out some noise if that happens. I have done several arduino projects (namely public installations or sculptures with sensors), one thing I learned is that you can always filter the (some) noise, by ignoring some values and so forth. Another fun aspect is that in public installations whenever I connected the arduino to the AC power outlets (instead of battery) the noise was much higher. (which makes sense, since AC powers of houses, steet, etc.. are actually noisy (have you ever noticed that AC induces noise on most laptop on-board sound-cards - due to ground loop and so forth) ) use i wanted to use a pot to control a delay length (you can hear gliches if the delay length jumps from one value to another rapidly). But don't panic about it, its workable. You can defined thresholds, and if it varies withing a certain range you will not consider as the pot has moved, if you do not have noise: even better. But electricity is not perfect, components are definitely not perfect either :) Best, Pedro On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: uctuate a little? This could be anoying if they fluctuate too much, because i wanted to use a pot to control a delay length (you can hear gliches if the delay length jumps from one value to another rapidly). -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] deadline for the PdCon 2011 Call for Papers extended (fwd)
Any thoughts or numbers regarding this value vs. the previous pdcons? It doesn't surprise me, since it is a rather small conference - it is very specific, which is what motivates me towards it, its a place to definitely get in touch with pd development and research - when you compare it to the major conferences, such as CHI, INTERACT (huge conferences), or more sound related: NIME, SMC (medium/big-sized) and so forth. I think I was submission 279 on NIME (long papers track) and I registered a few days before the end. Just to give an example. Best, Pedro On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: The committee has decided to extend the deadline to the 10th of April 24:00h (UTS +2) reminder BTW, I submitted at that exact time, and my submission number is 39. This should give you an idea of how many people submitted, though this may count some cancelled submissions, multiple submissions by same people, and it doesn't count anyone who submit after 24h00. (I'm only talking about papers ; other submissions are handled separately) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT WEBML
Are you sure you are not trying to refer to WebGL? as in: http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.comwrote: Have you guys seen the opengl implementation in javascript for webbrowsers? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT WebGL was Re: OT WEBML
WebGL is not the most lightweight thing in the world. But sure is cool. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.comwrote: On 4/4/11, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Are you sure you are not trying to refer to WebGL? as in: http://www.chromeexperiments.com/webgl Yes that is what I meant. It's kind of slow with FireFox and dialup with the mandelbox. -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
p.s.: Mathieu: The last image gave me a wrong link. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, yvan volochine wrote: I got the popup thing working with auto-completion =) thanks to hc for the help and inspiration Btw, had you tried DesireData's auto-completion ? 1. just name suggestions http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/completions.gif 2. with short descriptions in 15 languages http://artengine.ca/desiredata/gallery/completions2.gif 3. can pick from popup list using arrow http://code.goto10.org/projects/desiredata/attachment/wiki/UserDocs/dd_comp.png there were some more improvements after (3) to make it look better. That's something I started to write in 2004, and Chun Lee improved it in 2006 or 2007. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 3 new gui-plugins
amazed autocomplete /amazed Respect. If it ever gets as near as bash completion on most linuxes, it will be amazing for teaching/coding pd. Kudos yvan. On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/2011 06:44 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 3, 2011, at 12:12 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 04/03/2011 05:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Wow, I love the tab autocompletion plugin! What would be amazing if we had a bash-style completion files were the arguments were also tab-completable, when relevant. Things like filenames, table/array names, send/receive names, etc. This completion file could be included in libraries. It really highlights how badly we need Enter/Return to instantiate the object. Personally I prefer the default tcsh/bash-style where tab doesn't cycle thru the options when you hit tab repeatly. I could see a bash/tcsh style display of the options, like in a popup when you hit tab repeatedly. hey thanks. I'm not really supposed to dedicate that ammount of time developping for pd but as I'm unemployed right now =) I'm afraid the bash style auto-completion is a bit above my head, but the idea is nice. Basically, the first is the trigger: hitting tab twice where the tab does not add any more characters. So using your plugin as an example, type M-O-Tab-Tab would then list 'mod' and 'moses' as options but not change the 'mo' in the box. Those options could then be in a popup menu to both see and select with the keyboard or mouse. yeah that's what I wanted first: a ComboBox below the object box, but then I had troubles with object box coordinates (did the user click or is the object still moving with the cursor, etc...) and I started adding some if and all kind of stuff inside mouse motion procedures and that became nasty. this (and the fact that I wanted it now =) made me rewrite the plugin with the cycling-through-completions-with-tab behavior (which I still find very cool for speedy-patching) cheers, _y Adding the argument completion would probably be a lot more work, but I haven't really thought about it. But just having object name completion is huge! .hc One thing that needs to happen to make the auto-complete plugin more deployable is to have all its procs in its own namespace. Otherwise there can easily be name conflicts with other things named 'init', 'trigger', etc. done (FYI: sending to pd-announce also sends to pd-list) okay cheers, _y You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Successfully building Pd-extended-0.42.5 on Debian Wheezy amd64
Pd wiki? :) On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: This might be of interest to someone. I tried to summarise the steps here: http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=23199#p23199 Lorenzo. PS. As said pretty much untested but everything seems to work. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling Pd external using Codeblocks on Windows
Probably*: 1) having it configure on your favorite IDE 2) with all the inherited stuff of having and IDE :) Codeblocks is cross platform and a lot of projects are using it to have a configured build version for IDEs that is easier to setup. Although regarding PD I always compile in linux, thus make is the way for me. *But then again, I'm not speaking for anybody here, just thiking out loud. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:51 PM, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: hello, what is the advantage of using codeblocks for compiling pd and externals? Why not just using msys like explained in puredata.info tutorial? - J bz jbee...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi peeps, Wondering if anyone has experience of using Codeblocks to compile an external for Windows? Lorenzo Sutton has very kindly forwarded me an external he has made for quad panning using Chowning's methodology which I really like. In the package he forwarded to me, he says that all the code is there for building in windows using codeblocks. I have had a quick go in Puredyne with it but I require a Windows version for a piece next week. I have zero experience of compiling on any platform and don't really know where to get started. I'm aware there are a couple of tutorials knocking around on the pd hurleur sites but going through them last night made my teeth hurt. I found a couple of Codeblocks tutorials but the .dll files I made from them of the external don't work. I'm sure that if I had a couple of days with nothing else on I could get to grips with this but I don't. What I do have is a looming deadline though! I attach Lorenzo's external (Lorenzo if this is a problem please contact me asap) Btw, I have the Codeblocks version with MinGW and the GCC compiler. Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I alone?
Mathieu, a fun-fact note on recent spermwhale research - http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/sperm-whale-names/ http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/sperm-whale-names/Probably they know a lot :) On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: ersonally, I'd rather bet on the spermwhale. -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] The economics of Open source
FLOSS is not an economic model, it's a set of licenses (and of potential future licenses with the same basic characteristics). I agree with you Mathieu. Furthermore I leave this quote, that helps to pave a clear understanding In the context of free http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software and open-source software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software, *free* refers to the freedom to copy and re-use the software,* rather than to the price of the software*. The Free Software Foundationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation, an organization that advocates the free software model, suggests that, to understand the concept, one should think of free as in free speech, not as in free beer. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:03 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: I have been considering making a donation since i've been using Pd extensively for a few years now. But could someone tell me exactly how it works? Who gets the money? How is it split between the different developpers? For instance, i'm assuming that Miller Puckette should get a fair share of the donations since we're all using Pd vanilla at least, but i use HID a lot in my patches, so Hans should get his share too. And i never use GEM or Gridflow (cause i have no need for it at the moment), so i don't see why part of my donation should go to Mathieu or GEM's author(s). Yet i m sure that thousands of people use GEM, and these developpers should be supported as well. In short, how does it work, and how do we make this sustainable? As said by someone else, whoever you send money to, gets it. There's no bank account, or anyone controlling who is getting what. Since Mr. Puckette has (what seems to be) a nice job, I wouldn't worry much with him, but more with other younger developpers who are much busier working in Pd nowadays. If you want to share your wealth, these people should be more in need. João Pais ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM GL: invalid enumerant on Win XP
I don't know if thats the case with GEM, but this had happened to me while coding games in C++ with my old laptop that had a weak ATI graphics card and did not had the required shaders for some graphics operations. Could it be the case? Does anyone else have that computer in the class? I hope it helps. Best, Pedro On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote: GL: invalid enumerant -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Download Pd?
But it goes to the http://puredata.info/community/projects/software http://puredata.info/community/projects/softwareand not the http://puredata.info/downloads On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: It is not HCI friendly, but see the image. Its on the top bar. Not on the side. 2011/3/4 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Ok, my question is : how do i get there from the main puredata.info page : http://puredata.info/downloads I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't. Pierre 2011/3/4 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/2011 08:21 PM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi list, why has the Download folder disapeared from the menu in puredata.info? i cannot really follow you. i get the following tabs (without being logged in) download pd documentation development community members exhibition at the top o the page. the 1st one directs you to the download page (hence it's name) famdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1xQ28ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTwBQCg8hL1+FE6Hs1d5aF3BU6P0Fn5 01QAn2Ux3+gRkIDFb+U0rLaQUR+XYmtj =Hl8o -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
Never seen such error, for me it simply works :) It just says that? This helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-453465.html http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-453465.html http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8365819 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote: 256 / 2816 -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] USB extender for PS3 Eye on Linux and PD
Try without an active one first. I once did a radio art piece at Serralves museum with a usb-powered soundcard and FM transmittor with a normal extension, in a vertical pole (7 meters high), we used a 10 meter usb extension we bought on FNAC or something like that. :) Although at the time we wondered if it would function, (since a lot of sites and I think wikipedia himself states that it would need a power hub in the middle), but it worked. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Stefan Jensen sjen...@versanet.de wrote: Hi,.. Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2011, 15:59 +0100 schrieb n...@petervenus.de: there are extender which incorporate cat5 cables, but they are quite expensive and the cheaper should do the job, although i didn´t try them out myself. I use this one. Works fine and is pretty cheap: http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/UA0021D.htm best regards Stefan -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] USB extender for PS3 Eye on Linux and PD
To get 10m more for a PS3ye we've bought 2x5M of TU2-EX5 (between 10 and 15 €) ( http://www.trendnet.com/langfr/products/proddetail.asp?prod=170_TU2-EX5cat=32l ) We've tried without active link, but it didn't work. Cool, now I know if I use the ps3eye far away, As of today always used the camera at close distances, since I usually pack the computers inside my multitouch tabletops =p. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, To get 10m more for a PS3ye we've bought 2x5M of TU2-EX5 (between 10 and 15 €) ( http://www.trendnet.com/langfr/products/proddetail.asp?prod=170_TU2-EX5cat=32l ) We've tried without active link, but it didn't work. Good luck 01ivier 2011/3/1 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt Try without an active one first. I once did a radio art piece at Serralves museum with a usb-powered soundcard and FM transmittor with a normal extension, in a vertical pole (7 meters high), we used a 10 meter usb extension we bought on FNAC or something like that. :) Although at the time we wondered if it would function, (since a lot of sites and I think wikipedia himself states that it would need a power hub in the middle), but it worked. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Stefan Jensen sjen...@versanet.dewrote: Hi,.. Am Dienstag, den 01.03.2011, 15:59 +0100 schrieb n...@petervenus.de: there are extender which incorporate cat5 cables, but they are quite expensive and the cheaper should do the job, although i didn´t try them out myself. I use this one. Works fine and is pretty cheap: http://www.logilink.eu/showproduct/UA0021D.htm best regards Stefan -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
Hey, I use recordmydesktop, it captures OpenGL and audio through Jack, sou I route it to record pd output. Sometimes I have lags, which is shi* but then again I did not setup things carefully (i'm not with an rt kernel now, and my screen is wid). All these videos are recorded that way 1) http://vimeo.com/11792446 (see the last frame of this one[1], it helps you with the arguments for the recordmydesktop - since they are a bit freaky) - This was done with a slower laptop than my newer but it was RT and I really felt that it helps in grabbing the video/audio data. 2) http://vimeo.com/11949192 (see the first frame of this one[1], no lagged older laptop with rt kernel) 3) http://vimeo.com/17469068 (once again first frame, this is lagged better laptop, kernel is not rt) [1] hooray for laziness in not cutting the videos! Best, Pedro Lopes On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote: ahh correction- the object is under pidip and is called [pdp_rec~] On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip (cant remember which one). try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record] together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together later to make an ogg file. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote: Hi List, does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem under linux? So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses to record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only outputs error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [ 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ... markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
oh..p.s.: i mentioned a screen-capture technique, not really a direct buffer technique or whatever. :) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Mitchell Turner mmturner2...@gmail.comwrote: Markus, You may find some things that will help in the patches by Max Neupert. Though his patches keep the audio and video as separate files, the techniques work well. http://www.maxneupert.de/pd/ The files on Motion detection (17-documentation.pd in particular) and Audiovisual programming may help out. Hope this is helpful, Mitch On Mar 1, 2011, at 6:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 22:29:32 +0100 From: Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org Subject: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4d6d653c.7000...@zankapfel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi List, does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem under linux? So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses to record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only outputs error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [ 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ... markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] unexpected behaviour in [route]
The first paragraph of route-help states:
which maybe numbers or symbols (but not a mixture of the two unless the
datatypes are defined explicitly)
Its the answer.
See the help patch.
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
This is not a bug.
Just do something like this to avoid any problem :
[route number number number ...]/[route word word word ...]
++
Jack
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 22:46 +0200, rene beekman a écrit :
I'm preparing some patches for courses that I teach and I noticed
behaviour in [route] that I found unexpected or at least inconsistent.
Attached is a patch that demonstrates the problem.
In short: when mixing types of arguments for [route], the object will
fail to properly route a float if the float is preceded by a symbol
argument.
For example:
[route 12 nobug] will route 12 properly
[route bug 12] will send any incoming 12 to its last ('undefined')
output
This is with Pd Extended 0.42.5 on Mac OS 10.6.6
Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
Rene
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Re: [PD] pd geek shirts
You can replace to lucky luke :D Open source shirt. haha. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, pierlu wrote: ahahahah bang bang you're dead it's ubergeek! http://www.mange-disque.tv/fs/md_394.jpg ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Extended View Toolkit
Congratulations, the array of Ps3eye (so it seems) cameras is amazingly simple and has a nice result in panoramic rendering/blending. Love the cave effect generated there. Congratulations on the project, I'm definitely on the lookout for this one. Best, Pedro On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:53 PM, n...@petervenus.de wrote: Hello All! I want to announce the official release of the Extended View Toolkit. http://puredata.info/Members/Weitsicht/extended-view-toolkit/ The Extended View Toolkit is a set of abstractions developed for the art installation Extended View streamed. It is intended to be an easy solution to experiment and realise panoramic video and complex multiscreen projection environments to createimmersive media experiences. It features a set of abstractions that are able to combine multiple related image-sources (like video input, video playback) into aconsistent panoramic image. The source-material, e.g. the camera to display has to be aligned horicontally, since image-combination is based on simple, openGL basededge-blending and not algorithmic pix by pixel comparison. Furthermore it features abstractions to create multi-screen, multi-projector environments to enable correct representation of (not only)panoramic material. The projection abstractions can be combined to form big screens out of multiple projectors with softedge betweenoverlapping borders of single projectors and contain a vertex model that can be adjusted in 4, respectively 9 points, so that projections onchallenging geometric surfaces is possible. Additionally, all abstractions are controllable via OSC-styled send/receive-messages, which simplifies OSC-based external control. Also, since streaming video was part of the project, a gstreamer based streaming solution was developed by Peter Innerhofer to distribute panoramic/multistream video over network. It can be found here: [https://github.com/peonic/streaming] Libraries needed: mrpeachBuilt with pd 42.6 and GEM 92.3 Credits: Shader Programming/openGL: Cyrille Henry GEM: Marian Weger Prototyping/GEM: Peter Venus Streaming: Peter Innerhofer Initiation/Supervision: Winfried Ritsch A short demo-clip can be found here: [http://vimeo.com/20311051] The project was made possible through support from IEM-Institute for Electronic Music and Acoustics (iem.at) and CO-ME-DI-A. The CO-ME-DI-A project is supported by the Education, Audiovisual Culture Executive Agency (EACEA) of the European Comission forthe period 2007 - 2010 ([ http://www.comedia.eu.org/]). Your feedback is welcome! Peter ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd geek shirts
Agree with Andy, I'd like just the human~ printed really big. :) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote: My experience with both screen and polymer processes is you need to avoid too many thin lines So the single object, printed large, would make a better design for technical reasons IMHO. On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:59:50 +1100 Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm designing a couple of Pd geek shirts, pretty much just to merge my love of Pd and shirts. I've attached a .pd version of both designs. Since I'm not a screen printer I'm considering uploading the designs to redbubble.com and listing them at cost. That way anyone who wants to order them can, and only redbubble makes money out of it. I chose redbubble because they have good postage rates for me and the quality of the final product is good. If anyone is not cool with this please say so. I'm very happy to send out the high rez files to anyone who wants to print them themselves too, just let me know. -cheers Richard -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd geek shirts
GENIUS. 2011/2/23 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com my 2 cents is to use direct color instead of a raster on a white backprint i'd love [metro] | [sexual~] but i've checked the infamous thread and i know it's not very likely :o) Andras On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwrote: Agree with Andy, I'd like just the human~ printed really big. :) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote: My experience with both screen and polymer processes is you need to avoid too many thin lines So the single object, printed large, would make a better design for technical reasons IMHO. On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:59:50 +1100 Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm designing a couple of Pd geek shirts, pretty much just to merge my love of Pd and shirts. I've attached a .pd version of both designs. Since I'm not a screen printer I'm considering uploading the designs to redbubble.com and listing them at cost. That way anyone who wants to order them can, and only redbubble makes money out of it. I chose redbubble because they have good postage rates for me and the quality of the final product is good. If anyone is not cool with this please say so. I'm very happy to send out the high rez files to anyone who wants to print them themselves too, just let me know. -cheers Richard -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Muranyi Andras ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
My version was compiled from source pedro@io:~/Apps/pdfont/pure-data/bin$ ./pd -version Pd-0.43.0 (test3) compiled 22:43:36 Dec 26 2010 If I run the debug it shows many things, even mouse moves inside patches. .xa16b0f8.c coords .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R 246 183 278 183 278 200 246 200 246 183 .xa16b0f8.c itemconfigure .xa16b0f8.ta16b898R -dash - .xa16b0f8.c select clear .xa16b0f8.c icursor .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 0 .xa16b0f8.c focus .xa16b0f8.ta16b898 Probably its just garbage for your purpose, but its output :) -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
If you activate the higher debug level you'lll get all user commands. Like: pedro@io:~$ pdextended -d 1 (...) .x9a081a0.c create rectangle 108 121 108 121 -tags x .x9a081a0.c delete x and so forth. But probably there is a cleaner way since the debug is hardcore. There's more debug levels by the way, but I don't know where the official documentation is on that. Best, Pedro On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Joe White white.j...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to be able to get the commands that are called when a user is creating a patch in the Pd GUI. What I'd like to achieve is to be able to have a duplicate patch being created in realtime as I make it. In a similar way to dynamic patching, if I could gather the commands called and send them to another Pd instance would this work? Thanks for your time, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Create duplicate patch in realtime
Yes. It applies to vanilla (just tested). On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: You might find some docs in the Help Browser relevant: Help menu - Browser - Manuals - 0.Intro - 50.pure_data_files.pd Help menu - Browser - pd-msg .hc On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Joe White wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it is possible to be able to get the commands that are called when a user is creating a patch in the Pd GUI. What I'd like to achieve is to be able to have a duplicate patch being created in realtime as I make it. In a similar way to dynamic patching, if I could gather the commands called and send them to another Pd instance would this work? Thanks for your time, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton
there is an OSCeleton google groups where Tiago and Tony can address your questions better. These are the two guys from sensebloom that made the program (they are portuguese too). maybe its a better way to clear some doubts :) On 2/20/11, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Ok got it running. Seems to sometimes get a configuration and will work for a few minutes. Has anyone written any patches thy do anything with the data yet? The current readmes are confusing for sure. Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 19, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hmm, I don't remember, it was some command line program, it should be in the OSCeleton instructions. .hc On Feb 19, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Seems like everything built-- what has to be run for pd to notice it? Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 19, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: https://github.com/Sensebloom/OSCeleton .hc On Feb 19, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Thanks Hans is osckeleton an install or a build? Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Engineer UF Digital Worlds Institute (352)294-2020 On Feb 19, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I got it working using an external program called OSCeleton and then just received the data via OSC: https://github.com/pd-projects/pd-kinect-skeleton .hc On Feb 19, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Hi I have snow leopard and a kinect and would love to try this out, but I am a little confused by the insane flurry of emails regarding this. Does the kinect work with pd? What does one need to build or prepare for the patches to work? Thanks in advance pp Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith http://at.or.at/hans/ Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. - Chris McCormick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes contacto: anewkindofb...@gmail.com website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
anyway, i think using dynamic creation in real time is bad. I don't. I know that you are probably just referring to the fact that it affects performance and recomputes the DSP graph. But that would be the same to call a gamedev and say: don't create assets dynamically, create them all at game start - which is insane, there is a wide number of stuff in a lot of engines that force a recompile of blob-trees, meshes, and other 3d-data-structures, but it always depends on the amount of data and the frequency of those calls. imho, it really should be limited for patch creation. imho no. Depends on the situation, maybe you can say that you've seen people overdo-it. (I haven't) As far as my experience, It suits what I need. I have patches that create modules on user demand (for audio processing, and so forth), and there is no need to create them in advance (although it is possible and then just manage them later with dynamic routing) but performance falls well under my needs so I apply dynamic patching in realtime. I'd like to hear you out on this matter, maybe several situations could not apply to d. patching in rt, thus it is good to learn. Best regards, Pedro On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:07 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: Le 19/02/2011 20:58, John Harrison a écrit : Cyrille I just tried your solution and the problem is that all objects sharing the name of the dynamically-created object all get the loadbang message. yes. you should create them all in the same time, and then send the loadbang. if this is not possible, you can still : -use different name on your object -use argument on the abstraction and send to bang to a [receive loadbang-$1] object inside your abstraction -use initbang -use a [oneshot] object (or similar) after the loadbang anyway, i think using dynamic creation in real time is bad. imho, it really should be limited for patch creation. c On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptmailto: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: yes, this is known. By known you mean.. Is it on the bug tracker already? When such things are discovered (and by things I mean issues), shouldn't they be documented inside the help patches? It helps a lot those getting inside pd. Best, pedro On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net mailto: c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, yes, this is known. you have to explicitly send the loadbang, like in this patch, using your exemple. (don't know about initbang, i don't use it) c Le 19/02/2011 20:33, John Harrison a écrit : is it correct behavior that loadbang will not be called when it is part of a dynamically created object? See attached. If you load test-do, it will create an instance of test when you click on the message. Test should print loadbang and initbang, but it only prints initbang. -- John ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt mailto:pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
Yeah, if its the logical behaviour of the class: ok. As i said, comment withdrawn. I agree with Mathieu, I'll just use one of the unsupported stuff out there. 2011/2/20 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 02/19/2011 08:49 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote: yes, this is known. By known you mean.. Is it on the bug tracker already? it is a feature, not a bug. please consult the mailing list archives for why it makes sense for loadbang to behave like it does. fgadmr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] IRC channel for PureData
Also, I joined yesterday for the first time (nick: PedroLopes). I guess I'll become more frequent there. Best, Pedro On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Mathieu, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: There is an IRC channel for PureData on the IRC.FreeNode.Net network and the name of the channel is #dataflow. Just a reminder because I hadn't announced it in a long, long time. Thanks for taking there of this. I usually hang out in the channel, will be nice to talk to PDers in there. I am often hanging out there, its a good but under-used resource. All are welcome, from total newbie questions to questions about the internals of Pd, Gem, Gridflow, etc. Feel free to ping me and I'll do my best to answer (no guarantees). I'm _hc in dataflow. Here's the URL for the room: irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow If you have Pidgin (GNU/Linux and Windows), Colloquy (Mac OS X), Adium (Mac OS X) many others, you can just click the above link to get to #dataflow chatroom. .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 Lucid - Audio Settings / Delay - not working!
classic What is sudo: http://xkcd.com/149/ /classic On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Use sudo. .hc On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Ingo wrote: Besides the audio I sometimes need to run some [shell] commands that require root rights. No way to run it without being root. Ingo Besides, if you configure your system right with ALSA and JACK, you don't need to run PD as root. Don't run programs as root, this is not safe. i couldn't have said that better. gamdsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
I've tested you patch, happens here too. But I'm no expert in this behavior. :) p.s.: The help patch on loadbang states that a bang is sent when the patch is loaded. Is it a semantic issue? Patch vs. abstraction? or merely a problem.. 'Cause initbang bangs. 2011/2/19 John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.com is it correct behavior that loadbang will not be called when it is part of a dynamically created object? See attached. If you load test-do, it will create an instance of test when you click on the message. Test should print loadbang and initbang, but it only prints initbang. -- John ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
yes, this is known. By known you mean.. Is it on the bug tracker already? When such things are discovered (and by things I mean issues), shouldn't they be documented inside the help patches? It helps a lot those getting inside pd. Best, pedro On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, yes, this is known. you have to explicitly send the loadbang, like in this patch, using your exemple. (don't know about initbang, i don't use it) c Le 19/02/2011 20:33, John Harrison a écrit : is it correct behavior that loadbang will not be called when it is part of a dynamically created object? See attached. If you load test-do, it will create an instance of test when you click on the message. Test should print loadbang and initbang, but it only prints initbang. -- John ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] loadbang not sent for dynamically created objects?
uhhh not officially supported sounds great. Okay, didn't knew that position. Comment withdrawn. Best, Pedro On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: Le 19/02/2011 20:49, Pedro Lopes a écrit : yes, this is known. By known you mean.. Is it on the bug tracker already? no, it's not considered as a bug. When such things are discovered (and by things I mean issues), shouldn't they be documented inside the help patches? dynamic patching is not officially supported. if issues are discovered (and by this i mean bug), they should be post on the bug tracker, to be corrected. c It helps a lot those getting inside pd. Best, pedro On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net mailto: c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, yes, this is known. you have to explicitly send the loadbang, like in this patch, using your exemple. (don't know about initbang, i don't use it) c Le 19/02/2011 20:33, John Harrison a écrit : is it correct behavior that loadbang will not be called when it is part of a dynamically created object? See attached. If you load test-do, it will create an instance of test when you click on the message. Test should print loadbang and initbang, but it only prints initbang. -- John ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt mailto:pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] moses Object in Pd -- and in MAX ?
Peobably there is but max forum/list makes more sense for an informed answer.e.g. i dont use max. anyway moses is very simple and probablu theres a math object like greater than that does the trick. benchmarking pd vs. max... how? It is not easy to draw detailed benchmarks of closed sources, so I got curious. Best of luck, Pedro On Thursday, February 17, 2011, hghoyer hgho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, i´m Benchmarking Pure Data Max... So, in PD there ist the [moses] object... lokk at the picture... Is there a similar Objekt in MAX? Best regards, hgh -- Pedro Lopes contacto: anewkindofb...@gmail.com website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] building pd-extended from svn trunk
pedro@io:~$ locate e_sqrt.h /home/pedro/Apps/pdfont/pdextendedAll/0.42/externals/vanilla/e_sqrt.h /home/pedro/Apps/pdfont/pdextendedAll/0.42/externals/vanilla/.svn/text-base/e_sqrt.h.svn-base On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:15 PM, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: e_sqrt.h -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals
For me external is different from abstraction. For what I understand there's a need for a joint concept, one that says this visual object box is something. Is that what you call class Mathieu? best, Pedro p.s.: this kinda answers another thread, where I posted that table of concepts mental exercise (for me). On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't say they strictly are, but that they can be (as with list-abs). alex 2011/2/16 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Alexandre Porres wrote: Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between abstractions and externs. But it shouldn't, right? I mean, it's not real in practice, for abstractions can be externals... Which definitions are you using ? I've never seen « abstractions are externals » nor anything that would imply it. I tried introducing the word « class » in users' vocabulary, to include both abstraction definitions and external definitions under a same word, and using the word « object » to mean instances of either, but there is still some resistance to using industry-standard vocabulary instead of whatever the MAX manuals coughed up, for example. It would be good if you stated the definitions you use. It'd help me understand how « abstractions are externals » can be a true statement. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [PD announce] timbreID spectrograms
Thanks for sharing this, I think I'll make use of them. (and if so I'll post back results :D ) Best regards, Pedro On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Your PD externals are exactly what we need! I was dreaming of some, but I don;t have the math. BRAVO Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata - Original Message From: William Brent william.br...@gmail.com To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011 4:48:49 Subject: [PD] [PD announce] timbreID spectrograms Hi, If anyone needs to plot spectrograms, I just updated the timbreID examples with improved plotting patches. The old patches used structs, which were really really slow to draw. The new ones rely on GEM and are much more useable. You can plot cepstrograms as well. I also recently added a classic vocoder patch based on a Bark-spaced filterbank. You'll need the latest version of timbreID for all of this to work. If you're interested, the library example patches can be downloaded in separate packages here: http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#timbreID -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] patch dans patch
Love the syntax of [#downscale_by 3 smoothly] You are almost talking to pd (natural lang) :D Best, Pedro On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:44 AM, philippe boisnard philem...@mac.comwrote: it's beautifull. Le 13 févr. 2011 à 06:28, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : mes nouvelles patchs de ce soir : http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_1.png http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_2.png http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_3.png http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_4.png http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_5.png ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
