Re: [PD] A present
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church. fgmadsr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces? ~Kyle 2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:49 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church. I'm heretic... no religion at all. Which true church do you mean? .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink- collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
I can definitely agree there! .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces? ~Kyle 2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Hi, I think I've found out why your game doesn't work for me. There is a [wrap -4 4] object somewhere, which I guess is used to wrap the snake's position around the screen. However, [wrap -4 4] behaves exactly the same as [wrap]. I have PD Vanilla 0.42.4 and IIRC [wrap] is relatively recent. Maybe there is an abstraction or object in PD Extended older than the introduction of [wrap] in vanilla, and this object accepted creation arguments to change its range? and it is this object you are using? Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, I still don't understand the game, but I can only move the snake within a very small rectangle (or square) approximately at the center of the screen. It disappears on one side and appears on the other one, but of a small square, and it looks like it is supposed to do the same on the whole window, or is that the expected behaviour? It seems impossible to avoid the red circle while being constrained within a small rectangle, but maybe I'm missing something... Apart from that, I get the error click~: couldn't create: is that an object of PD Extended, or an abstraction that is missing? Thank you for sharing the patch. I love games :) m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
yes I'm using [wrap], and it's always accepted creation arguments for its range so far. Using PD extended. Can you set the arguments another way in vanilla? Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:26:01 +0100 From: matteosistise...@gmail.com To: jbtur...@hotmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] A present Hi, I think I've found out why your game doesn't work for me. There is a [wrap -4 4] object somewhere, which I guess is used to wrap the snake's position around the screen. However, [wrap -4 4] behaves exactly the same as [wrap]. I have PD Vanilla 0.42.4 and IIRC [wrap] is relatively recent. Maybe there is an abstraction or object in PD Extended older than the introduction of [wrap] in vanilla, and this object accepted creation arguments to change its range? and it is this object you are using? Matteo Sisti Sette escribió: Hi, I still don't understand the game, but I can only move the snake within a very small rectangle (or square) approximately at the center of the screen. It disappears on one side and appears on the other one, but of a small square, and it looks like it is supposed to do the same on the whole window, or is that the expected behaviour? It seems impossible to avoid the red circle while being constrained within a small rectangle, but maybe I'm missing something... Apart from that, I get the error click~: couldn't create: is that an object of PD Extended, or an abstraction that is missing? Thank you for sharing the patch. I love games :) m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com _ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Quoting Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com: Hi, I think I've found out why your game doesn't work for me. There is a [wrap -4 4] object somewhere, which I guess is used to wrap the snake's position around the screen. seems to be zexy's [wrap] which allows you to take 2 arguments to wrap between However, [wrap -4 4] behaves exactly the same as [wrap]. seems to be vanilla's [wrap] which ignores all arguments and always wraps between [0, 1). I have PD Vanilla 0.42.4 and IIRC [wrap] is relatively recent. Maybe there is an abstraction or object in PD Extended older than the introduction of [wrap] in vanilla, and this object accepted creation arguments to change its range? and it is this object you are using? should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. basically you have to do a transformation to map the range -4..4 into 0..1 for the input of vanilla's [wrap] and the other way round for the output. consult your secondary school's math textbooks for a solution to the problem. fgasdmr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. binSOx6jMjP7Q.bin Description: Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : ... should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. wrap is problematic, because if you use the zexy version, and then use your patch on an other computer without zexy : you will not have any warning and your patch may not work. usually, you have an error because of missing object... cyrille basically you have to do a transformation to map the range -4..4 into 0..1 for the input of vanilla's [wrap] and the other way round for the output. consult your secondary school's math textbooks for a solution to the problem. fgasdmr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Quoting cyrille henry c...@chnry.net: zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : ... should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. wrap is problematic, because if you use the zexy version, and then use your patch on an other computer without zexy : you will not have any warning and your patch may not work. i know,l but i cannot do anything short of rolling back the time. usually, you have an error because of missing object... i would suggest that the vanilla [wrap] should refuse to create (or at least throw a serious warning) when it is invoked with arguments. or even better: the vanilla wrap would just clone the behaviour of zexy's wrap. while the code for it is right now GPL, i would consider dual-licensing it under BSD in order to get it into vanilla :-) fgamsdr IOhannes fgmar IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. binjH6H1UsZMJ.bin Description: Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
I'd probably got for adding arguments to the Vanilla version of [wrap], even though it's quite simple arithmetic to work it up there's no reason not to change that. Particularly if it keeps it's current settings as defaults. Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:29:48 +0100 From: zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] A present Quoting cyrille henry c...@chnry.net: zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : ... should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. wrap is problematic, because if you use the zexy version, and then use your patch on an other computer without zexy : you will not have any warning and your patch may not work. i know,l but i cannot do anything short of rolling back the time. usually, you have an error because of missing object... i would suggest that the vanilla [wrap] should refuse to create (or at least throw a serious warning) when it is invoked with arguments. or even better: the vanilla wrap would just clone the behaviour of zexy's wrap. while the code for it is right now GPL, i would consider dual-licensing it under BSD in order to get it into vanilla :-) fgamsdr IOhannes fgmar IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : Quoting cyrille henry c...@chnry.net: zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : ... should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. wrap is problematic, because if you use the zexy version, and then use your patch on an other computer without zexy : you will not have any warning and your patch may not work. i know,l but i cannot do anything short of rolling back the time. usually, you have an error because of missing object... i would suggest that the vanilla [wrap] should refuse to create (or at least throw a serious warning) when it is invoked with arguments. or even better: the vanilla wrap would just clone the behaviour of zexy's wrap. while the code for it is right now GPL, i would consider dual-licensing it under BSD in order to get it into vanilla :-) and loby miller so that he accept it. c fgamsdr IOhannes fgmar IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
On Dec 26, 2009, at 1:29 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: Quoting cyrille henry c...@chnry.net: zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : ... should be fairly simple to write an abstraction that wraps vanilla's [wrap] into the zexy version. wrap is problematic, because if you use the zexy version, and then use your patch on an other computer without zexy : you will not have any warning and your patch may not work. i know,l but i cannot do anything short of rolling back the time. usually, you have an error because of missing object... i would suggest that the vanilla [wrap] should refuse to create (or at least throw a serious warning) when it is invoked with arguments. or even better: the vanilla wrap would just clone the behaviour of zexy's wrap. while the code for it is right now GPL, i would consider dual- licensing it under BSD in order to get it into vanilla :-) zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. [wrap] is very similar to [clip], so it should have the same interface for the args and inlets. zexy's [wrap] has the same arg structure, but not the same inlet structure. See my other email for a complete proposal, [wrap], zexy vs. vanilla. .hc fgamsdr IOhannes fgmar IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. mime-attachment___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Nice Game :) I noticed (and appreciated) that you ended up using the code i suggested, but actually Jack´s sugestion looks more efficient and elegant ( with [max] ). One has to take every opportunity to learn ;) Happy hollidays to you and all the list Sílvio From: jbtur...@hotmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:56:53 + Subject: [PD] A present Hey all you pd people I've decided to sent out an open invitation to try a patch I've been working on, a little game, in fact. Its a work in progress so I'd love some feedback, but if you enjoy trying it out that'd be great. Andrew Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. _ Obtenha 30 Emoticons grátis para o seu Windows Live Messenger http://www.livemessenger-emoticons.com/funfamily/pt-pt/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Hi, I still don't understand the game, but I can only move the snake within a very small rectangle (or square) approximately at the center of the screen. It disappears on one side and appears on the other one, but of a small square, and it looks like it is supposed to do the same on the whole window, or is that the expected behaviour? It seems impossible to avoid the red circle while being constrained within a small rectangle, but maybe I'm missing something... Apart from that, I get the error click~: couldn't create: is that an object of PD Extended, or an abstraction that is missing? Thank you for sharing the patch. I love games :) m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Andrew, the game is brilliant, and works flawlessly here. Your code is hella messy though. :P if the green circle is in the red circle, and you manage to keep your snake perfectly within the green circle, I think you should still accumulate points though, at the moment, you loose points You should post it in the forum when ready. Infact, the forum would love to have your GEM wisdom, if you don't already lurk around those areas. Thanks for the christmas present, and here is my (reply) xmas present for fellow students of the Sound Arts course at my university in Brighton: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6gizl5 Message: 7 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:56:53 + From: Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: [PD] A present To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: col120-w298580f4a2af64dc5a9e08de...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey all you pd people I've decided to sent out an open invitation to try a patch I've been working on, a little game, in fact. Its a work in progress so I'd love some feedback, but if you enjoy trying it out that'd be great. Andrew _ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20091225/22ffcae8/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: snakey.pd Type: application/octet-stream Size: 72447 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20091225/22ffcae8/attachment.obj -- ___ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 98 *** ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Glad you like it, afrid. Yeah, I do treat my code like my bedroom, if I know where to find stuff then it doesn't bother me. Just like my room, I keep it tidy if it's on display, I didn't really think before sending this one off. I'll have to look into the arithmetic, but I think it is possible (with the smallest size at any rate) to keep the score level if you're dead centre of the green circle. I'm fairly sure both have a maximum score effect of three (ever 100 milliseconds). Anyway, that keeps you on your toes, if you can't always score. I don't use the forum, might check it out sometime. I'm not sure when this is going to be finished. Just for the record, what's your high score? Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:42:00 + From: arif...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] A present Andrew, the game is brilliant, and works flawlessly here. Your code is hella messy though. :P if the green circle is in the red circle, and you manage to keep your snake perfectly within the green circle, I think you should still accumulate points though, at the moment, you loose points You should post it in the forum when ready. Infact, the forum would love to have your GEM wisdom, if you don't already lurk around those areas. Thanks for the christmas present, and here is my (reply) xmas present for fellow students of the Sound Arts course at my university in Brighton: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6gizl5 Message: 7 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:56:53 + From: Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: [PD] A present To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: col120-w298580f4a2af64dc5a9e08de...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey all you pd people I've decided to sent out an open invitation to try a patch I've been working on, a little game, in fact. Its a work in progress so I'd love some feedback, but if you enjoy trying it out that'd be great. Andrew _ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20091225/22ffcae8/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: snakey.pd Type: application/octet-stream Size: 72447 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20091225/22ffcae8/attachment.obj -- ___ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 57, Issue 98 *** _ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
