Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: So does this mean that users in future will download a 'core' Pd (extended) and then separately download and install the different sets of externals that they want to work with, instead of downloading one big monolithic package? I like that because it fits well with the Debian philosophy. Hans has said several times in the past that he has no interest at all to work on pd-packages separated like you sugest, so I believe, this would only apply for packages maintained somewhere/by someone else, like GridFlow. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hallo, Georg Holzmann hat gesagt: // Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! Hans has said several times in the past that he has no interest at all to work on pd-packages separated like you sugest, so I believe, this would only apply for packages maintained somewhere/by someone else, like GridFlow. No, as far as I remember Hans said several times that someone should just do the work ... (but maybe Hans knows best what Hans said ... ;) Of course. ;) But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it. [1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hallo! But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it. [1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html Yes, as I said (or at least that was what I wanted to say). I think the problem with the pd community is that everyone just says how he/she would like to have the distribution and is always complaining - but actually only Hans is doing the main work (with some very small contribution as also by myself). I personally think that the pd-extended project is one of the most important things in the pd-community, if not the most important and I cannot understand why people are not able to work with each other and not always against each other. Especially developers are only complaining ... It is not enough to always say I want the build system like this or I don't like the current philosophy - we heard this now many many times on the list and of course some of the criticism is also valid - there really need to be also contributions from other people to get this project working ... LG Georg PS: I was really fascinated how cooperation can work in other open source communities, but here (in PD world) I simply don't see this and I don't understand why. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo! But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it. [1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html Yes, as I said (or at least that was what I wanted to say). I think the problem with the pd community is that everyone just says how he/she would like to have the distribution and is always complaining - but actually only Hans is doing the main work (with some very small contribution as also by myself). I personally think that the pd-extended project is one of the most important things in the pd-community, if not the most important and I cannot understand why people are not able to work with each other and not always against each other. Especially developers are only complaining ... It is not enough to always say I want the build system like this or I don't like the current philosophy - we heard this now many many times on the list and of course some of the criticism is also valid - there really need to be also contributions from other people to get this project working ... LG Georg PS: I was really fascinated how cooperation can work in other open source communities, but here (in PD world) I simply don't see this and I don't understand why. This is a very good criticism of the situation, and I know have been guilty of this myself as well. I have tried to then stop giving unproductive criticism and start spending that time fixing things instead, i.e. less time emailing, more time learning the code and coding. .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 19, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: So does this mean that users in future will download a 'core' Pd (extended) and then separately download and install the different sets of externals that they want to work with, instead of downloading one big monolithic package? I like that because it fits well with the Debian philosophy. Hans has said several times in the past that he has no interest at all to work on pd-packages separated like you sugest, so I believe, this would only apply for packages maintained somewhere/by someone else, like GridFlow. Hmm, I don't think I would put it that way. What I do mean is that I don't think I can take on the maintanence of yet another aspect of Pd, I am overloaded as it is. I would like to see good Debian packages for Pd, Pd-extended and all the libs, and I would help anyone who is willing to take on the project. For example, I helped Nando create the PlanetCCRMA packages for Pd- extended, which is organized this way (one package per library). .hc Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hans has said several times in the past that he has no interest at all to work on pd-packages separated like you sugest, so I believe, this would only apply for packages maintained somewhere/by someone else, like GridFlow. If you do a svn checkout of pure-data externals, it should download a gridflow folder, but it seems that there is a bug in svn about the setting the svn:externals property on the externals folder (I hope that it doesn't have to do with the name coïncidence). so, on at least one existing checkout, an update would tell the recent revision number of the last commit, yet did not even try to download GridFlow. At least I didn't forget to commit the propset (but then I wonder how to commit a propset without committing file modifs... especially file modifs of a whole folder) _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hans has said several times in the past that he has no interest at all to work on pd-packages separated like you sugest, so I believe, this would only apply for packages maintained somewhere/by someone else, like GridFlow. If you do a svn checkout of pure-data externals, it should download a gridflow folder, but it seems that there is a bug in svn about the setting the svn:externals property on the externals folder (I hope that it doesn't have to do with the name coïncidence). so, on at least one existing checkout, an update would tell the recent revision number of the last commit, yet did not even try to download GridFlow. At least I didn't forget to commit the propset (but then I wonder how to commit a propset without committing file modifs... especially file modifs of a whole folder) Unless you plan on integrating your release cycle with Pd-extended, I don't think it makes much sense to use the svn:externals link. If you want to include Gridflow in Pd-extended, it would make much more sense to include released versions of the source in the SVN. .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 18, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think that gridflow would probably be more easily maintained outside of Pd-extended, for now at least. GridFlow is not in a situation much different from Gem or PDP. It's just that there's more of an incentive to get Gem running in pd- extended, than there is to get GridFlow running. I'm talking about today's GridFlow, which is quite Rubyless. I think that basically you say that because you simply don't feel like handling it. Now I have a contract item that is to include GridFlow in pd- extended, or if that fails, at least to make a version of pd- extended that has GridFlow in it. It is likely that it gets done in June, perhaps even in the next few days. These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. Then once things are very stable, they should be included in Pd-extended. That's what I've learned from my experience so far. And honestly, I don't want to deal with more build issues, I am very tired of it. So if you want to include it, please don't expect me to do it, especially since you are getting paid and I am not. .hc If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. I don't know what you mean by that. Now I have a contract item that is to include GridFlow in pd-extended, or if that fails, at least to make a version of pd-extended that has GridFlow in it. So if you want to include it, please don't expect me to do it, You can see that it is clear that I am already planning for this possibility. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 18, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. I don't know what you mean by that. I mean not including everything in one big package, but instead make it easy to package, distribute, and install libraries for Pd. Now I have a contract item that is to include GridFlow in pd- extended, or if that fails, at least to make a version of pd- extended that has GridFlow in it. So if you want to include it, please don't expect me to do it, You can see that it is clear that I am already planning for this possibility. Feel free to ask questions, I'll do my best to answer them... .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
that will be very nice Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. I don't know what you mean by that. Now I have a contract item that is to include GridFlow in pd-extended, or if that fails, at least to make a version of pd-extended that has GridFlow in it. So if you want to include it, please don't expect me to do it, You can see that it is clear that I am already planning for this possibility. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:57:03PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. I don't know what you mean by that. I mean not including everything in one big package, but instead make it easy to package, distribute, and install libraries for Pd. Hi Hans, So does this mean that users in future will download a 'core' Pd (extended) and then separately download and install the different sets of externals that they want to work with, instead of downloading one big monolithic package? I like that because it fits well with the Debian philosophy. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Chris McCormick wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:57:03PM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These days, I think we should try to make it easy to install and manage external libraries. I don't know what you mean by that. I mean not including everything in one big package, but instead make it easy to package, distribute, and install libraries for Pd. Hi Hans, So does this mean that users in future will download a 'core' Pd (extended) and then separately download and install the different sets of externals that they want to work with, instead of downloading one big monolithic package? I like that because it fits well with the Debian philosophy. Chris. this should be a good choice... Husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu - Pd-extended - About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Strange one, could you file a bug report? .hc On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Max Neupert wrote: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu - Pd-extended - About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc - - -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Ok, that should be fixed on Ubuntu/GNOME now. .hc On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Rich E wrote: I noticed that in the latest pd-extended on ubuntu, the arrow doesn't change direction when you mouse over a GUI object that is editable. Why so? I found it useful.. -rich On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
done. Am 2008-06-15 um 23:01 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Strange one, could you file a bug report? .hc On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Max Neupert wrote: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu - Pd-extended - About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. i think i might have fixed this in the Pd-extended/v0-40 branch (by applying patch-#1990599 to pd/) tell me if it starts working tomorrow... with Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080614-macosx105-i386 libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Jun 14 2008 at 03:36:53 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080614 hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zmölnig, IEM [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Jun 14 2008 at 03:36:53 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080614 ..snip.. load_object: Symbol 0x3c0x7e_setup not found error: BUG: no pd_objectmaker found ~ ... couldn't create eni ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Check out externals/pdvjtools, I am here in Barcelona working with Sergi and Lluis on getting that library working smoothly. It should be included in the 0.42 builds. .hc On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and pdp_frei0r into that? I am not sure if i asked you before but these two would be awesome. currently on Linux ppc ubuntu i get a greenish color over all of the pixelizi0r plugin, but not on intel, and of course nothing on osx since they no worky. i know this is a specific request but i just wanted to ask :-) pp Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best to leave it like it is for this release. The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is back to trunk once the release is done. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
I noticed that in the latest pd-extended on ubuntu, the arrow doesn't change direction when you mouse over a GUI object that is editable. Why so? I found it useful.. -rich On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
I am cc'ing the list since this is of general interest. People at ZHdK helped me find this bug while I was there in Zürich, it should be fixed in the most recent nightly builds. .hc On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Kjetil Falkenberg Hansen wrote: Hi, sorry if I breach any emailing policies by answering to you directly... I tried the latest version, and as far as I can tell everything I use run smoothly, except one. My Arduino-boards (Diecimila) suddenly stopped sending input to pd (I use your patch and the standard Firmata). The boards connect, but I get the messages [comport] opened serial line device 15 (COM15) moocow/string2any 32 -1 ... couldn't create [arduino]: version_0.4 UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 Since moocow/string2any doesn't seem to appear in any of the used patches, I don't know if that's the problem. Hope I was clear enough in the not-quite-a-bug-report report. I use WinXP. Greetings from KTH Stockholm, Kjetil Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc - --- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. i think i might have fixed this in the Pd-extended/v0-40 branch (by applying patch-#1990599 to pd/) tell me if it starts working tomorrow... f gasrmd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
This isn't from trunk, but the release branch. In the efforts to make a stable release, I did a code-freeze branch about a month or so ago. So anything done after that will be included in the next release. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:36 PM, ydegoyon wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Which part loads super slow? There could be other things at play there. How fast is your machine? Which platform? It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags. .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release) On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a sequencer) and it took... /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds. Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro) I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the many externals I use. Cheers Luke XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:00 PM, hard off wrote: i still get error messages when loading the zexy [~] [~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Use the report bug menu item on the Help menu. .hc On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:48 AM, palmieri, ricardo wrote: do u have some page to bug report, or can i do it in the list? im having troubles with a lot of objects. thx palm 2008/6/4 palmieri, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: oh, sorry... 3DP didnt work in my pbg4 macosx4.11. any tip? palm 2008/6/4 Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:20 PM, palmieri, ricardo wrote: hi fellows.. first, i loved the new interface for mac osx. here, in my powerbook g4 OSX.4.11, everything works fine. for now i have three questions: - is very hard to compile the [pix_artoolkit] with artoolkit support? - the [pix_opencv_series] will be great, but is the trouble the opencv dependencies, or have some quick solution to compile it inside the packet? Lluis, Sergi, and I hope to have that all working after this release is done, so sometime in June. - are u thinking in compile the gridflow to the packet, or its a far dream? ;) I think that gridflow would probably be more easily maintained outside of Pd-extended, for now at least. Pd-extended now looks in both a global folder and a user folder on all platforms, so you can install it there and have it just work. .hc anyway, congratulations and thanks a lot for once more great packet hans! palm 2008/6/4 ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best to leave it like it is for this release. The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is back to trunk once the release is done. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
are you loading cyclone as well? Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one is stymying IOhannes, if anyone has any suggestions. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:00 PM, hard off wrote: i still get error messages when loading the zexy [~] [~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and pdp_frei0r into that? I am not sure if i asked you before but these two would be awesome. currently on Linux ppc ubuntu i get a greenish color over all of the pixelizi0r plugin, but not on intel, and of course nothing on osx since they no worky. i know this is a specific request but i just wanted to ask :-) pp Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the merging howto, looks useful. At this point, only bug fixes should be added to the release branch. Adding new code could likely further the delay the release while we wait for the bugs to settle. Right now PDP is sensitive to changes, so it would be best to leave it like it is for this release. The reason for the branch is to make it easier to make a stable release. It is only used during the final release cycle. Then it is back to trunk once the release is done. .hc On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Sound and Light Technologist School of Theatre and Dance University of Florida ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you do address PDP can you include pdp_freeframe and pdp_frei0r into that? you could also use the [pix_freeframe] with the gem2pdp bridge. this doesn't help you with frei0r, however. fmarsd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Hi Hans! Could you test it against Pd-vanilla 0.40.3? I suspect it is something with the new look, since it is drawing polygons rather than boxes, but I haven't profiled it. I have tested again with Pd-vanilla 0.40.3 and now abstractions with GOPs loads right. Good work! .hc On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:14 PM, raul diaz wrote: I have notice the same problem on XP with Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 using abstractions with GOPs. But the new look is really nice. Good work! 2008/6/5 João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Raul Diaz Poblete * http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/%7Ei50874/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers -- Raul Diaz Poblete * http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Which part loads super slow? There could be other things at play there. How fast is your machine? Which platform? the patch loads super slow. specially if there are gops in it (or nested ones, as in my case) Thinkpad r51, 1,6Ghz, 1Gb Ram. XP. It is possible with custom preferences to cause a massive CPU spike on startup, if you forget to include the npath or nloadlib tags. it does, specially with all the libraries in the startup window - I removed them from the registry anyway. But that isn't related to the problem, and it makes no difference if the externals are previously loaded or not (my gops don't have that many complicated externals anyway) .hc On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release) On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a sequencer) and it took... /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds. Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro) I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the many externals I use. Cheers Luke XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Yo Yves, On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey. luke, ok, the documentation here is very useful and well-done Thanks but, as usual, as almost always, it's not a technical problem really here, it is how naby different versions of pd are we going to produce now? The idea of a branch doesn't have to mean a fork... the pd-extended 0.40 branch is just Hans trying to get a stable arrangement of objects for the next Pd-E release while still being able to commit his changes to subversion in order to work on it over a longer period of time. i'm glad i can make my branch on subversion but i feel like a monkey with my tribe But you could make a branch, it just wouldn't make much sense to do the entire trunk down if you're only going to work on code within, say, pidip/. So, you can just branch that directory if you ever wanted to work on an experimental feature, while still committing, but leaving a stable version in the trunk. oh oh i did a quote there! and then subversion has nothing to do with politics if it is to divide people oh oh i did a quote and fuck if i have to commit to ten branches and tribes You of course don't have to merge into the pd-e-40 branch unless you want your latest stuff included in the release. I obviously agree that it is a tedious process, but, an entire Pd-E release is not that common so usually I guess committing to the trunk will do. As I said in the docs, SVN 1.5 makes this about 1/5th the effort, which is enough to make it tolerable IMO. Usually the branch maintainer would do the merging of everyone else's stuff, but I think in this case the Pd-repo is too huge. So, there is some work as SVN Ambassador. Cheers Luke no this is not a quote ok, see ya, sevy Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Yes, it loads super-slow. Or should I say sub-slow. Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release) On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) Ha, a minute is nothing : ). I just decided to time the opening of my performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a sequencer) and it took... /fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds. Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro) I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the many externals I use. Cheers Luke XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
I have notice the same problem on XP with Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 using abstractions with GOPs. But the new look is really nice. Good work! 2008/6/5 João Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal? after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that) I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu) XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably has nothing to do with it] For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 Mob +49 162 6843570 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu GG Pd-Ext-0.39-2-t5, Pd Van 0.40-t2 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Raul Diaz Poblete * http://creaciodigital.upf.edu/~i50874/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barcelona [Spain] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
you will find PiDiP 0.12.23 (and also pdvjtools, and opencv) in this package: Pd-0.42.0-extended-20080605-ubuntu-hardy-i386.deb but this doesn't include the new GUI stuff. cause it's a pd-vanilla + externals(svn) S'està citant ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
this is great hans! Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
i still get error messages when loading the zexy [~] [~ ] objects. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
hi fellows.. first, i loved the new interface for mac osx. here, in my powerbook g4 OSX.4.11, everything works fine. for now i have three questions: - is very hard to compile the [pix_artoolkit] with artoolkit support? - the [pix_opencv_series] will be great, but is the trouble the opencv dependencies, or have some quick solution to compile it inside the packet? - are u thinking in compile the gridflow to the packet, or its a far dream? ;) anyway, congratulations and thanks a lot for once more great packet hans! palm 2008/6/4 ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
oh, sorry... 3DP didnt work in my pbg4 macosx4.11. any tip? palm 2008/6/4 Luke Iannini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ricardo palmieri # 1185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [skype:palmieriricardo] [jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [linux user # 392484] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
hey. luke, ok, the documentation here is very useful and well-done but, as usual, as almost always, it's not a technical problem really here, it is how naby different versions of pd are we going to produce now? i'm glad i can make my branch on subversion but i feel like a monkey with my tribe oh oh i did a quote there! and then subversion has nothing to do with politics if it is to divide people oh oh i did a quote and fuck if i have to commit to ten branches and tribes no this is not a quote ok, see ya, sevy Luke Iannini wrote: Yo yves, There is branches/pd-extended/v0-40 that produces the release, you'll have to merge over any changes. I wrote a guide here if you need it http://puredata.info/docs/developer/MergingHowto Cheers Luke On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, ydegoyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ola, sorry, why PiDiP version is 0.12.22 when i committed a 0.12.23 in the trunk? isn't it produced from the trunk ? this is somewhat important for us to have the new pdp_v4l2 and pdp_ieee1394 for cameras thx, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
