Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
sorry for late reply, but it's a busy time. However I tested again with pd-ex 42.5 rc6 compiled on Jaunty and I get the same behaviour, pd~ does not work. pd~-help gives me: error: pd~: can't stat /usr/lib/pd-extended/pd Am I missing something? s...@sad-laptop:~$ whereis pd pd: /usr/lib/pd [pd~ pddir /usr/lib( error: pd~: No such file or directory s...@sad-laptop:~$ whereis pdextended pdextended: /usr/bin/pdextended /usr/include/pdextended /usr/share/man/man1/pdextended.1.gz [pd~ pddir /usr/bin( error: pd~: can't stat /usr/bin/pd thanks, M On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: yep, I'll give a try too.. M On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:27 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: ok, i'll try test3 c Le 31/08/2010 07:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : This works for me now. .hc On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 12:03 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Yeah, if you have an easily reproducable bug, then its best to just go ahead and post to the bug tracker, i.e report bug on the Help menu. I've never seen this one, but if you still see it, then you should report it. And including things like screenshots is great. .hc On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Scott McCoid wrote: This was on Mac OS 10.5.8 with 0.43-0test2. I just tried it on 10.6.2 with 0.43-test2 without any problems. I'm able to drag the window. In the future, is it more appropriate to report these to the bug tracker linked from the Help section? Scott On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Scott, Thanks for reporting the bug, can you tell which version you are using? Also which platform are you on? .hc On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Scott McCoid wrote: Hans, I know there's a more formal way to enter bugs for the GUI rewrite, but I encountered an issue when choosing Properties for objects (In my case, a canvas object). I can't move the window that pops up. There's an offset each time you open the menu again and eventually it will make its way towards the bottom of the screen and I can't access the buttons on the bottom of the window. I know I can just press enter and it will exit. You do have to be selecting Properties a lot to get to this point though. I've attached a screen shot. Let me know if this is just a matter of changing a parameter and if I need to post this somewhere else. Scott The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Actually, it launches pd, if I go to the directory of the bin of the compiled source.. so there's something not perfectly working with the tidy up. after sudo make install 1) if I launch from bin - ok. 2) If I launch from /usr/bin - that error appears. I'll look more into it, if it is not related to my system I'll post to the tracker. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Yeah, if you have an easily reproducable bug, then its best to just go ahead and post to the bug tracker, i.e report bug on the Help menu. I've never seen this one, but if you still see it, then you should report it. And including things like screenshots is great. .hc On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Scott McCoid wrote: This was on Mac OS 10.5.8 with 0.43-0test2. I just tried it on 10.6.2 with 0.43-test2 without any problems. I'm able to drag the window. In the future, is it more appropriate to report these to the bug tracker linked from the Help section? Scott On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Scott, Thanks for reporting the bug, can you tell which version you are using? Also which platform are you on? .hc On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Scott McCoid wrote: Hans, I know there's a more formal way to enter bugs for the GUI rewrite, but I encountered an issue when choosing Properties for objects (In my case, a canvas object). I can't move the window that pops up. There's an offset each time you open the menu again and eventually it will make its way towards the bottom of the screen and I can't access the buttons on the bottom of the window. I know I can just press enter and it will exit. You do have to be selecting Properties a lot to get to this point though. I've attached a screen shot. Let me know if this is just a matter of changing a parameter and if I need to post this somewhere else. Scott The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Hey cyrille, I have the exact same problem (just did make install as super user), how can I workaround this Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory issue in 0.43? Best regards, Pedro On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, ./configure, make and sudo make install work as usually /pd/pd-0.43-0test2/bin$ ./pd works as expected, but : $ pd Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory will make more tests later cheers Cyrille -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
ok, i'll try test3 c Le 31/08/2010 07:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : This works for me now. .hc On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 12:03 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
yep, I'll give a try too.. M On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:27 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: ok, i'll try test3 c Le 31/08/2010 07:43, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : This works for me now. .hc On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 12:03 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
This works for me now. .hc On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 12:03 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Ok, should be fixed in the day after tomorrow's nightly build (its too late for tonight's builds, they are already happening, and I should be going to sleep... .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On 08/21/2010 08:16 PM, cyrille henry wrote: Le 22/08/2010 00:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: Le 21/08/2010 22:09, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir /path/to/my/pd( who will tell me where pd really lives? cheers cyrille Only you know, where did you put it? :) There are so many ways to customize it. i did not customize anything. i just did a make install. try whereis pd or whereis pdextended :) -Johnny cyrille .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
yep, it happens with the help file. M On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: you can use pd~ help file. cyrille Le 22/08/2010 00:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/22/2010 02:16 AM, cyrille henry wrote: pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) i just did a make install. ah, i understand. i thought (and i guess hans as well), that you installed Pd to a custom destination (pd is installed somewhere else). i know see, that pd~ is looking for /usr/local/lib/pd/pd rather than /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd (or /usr/local/bin/pd) i'd say, that this is a bug. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxxDi4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQtSgCg4Pek2vNOAwrjrEyEQJkxdnLm UoUAoNPbO4X/UnE5Q/FIA0X8h+udiZ/i =Ihv+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille Le 20/08/2010 17:10, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, ./configure, make and sudo make install work as usually /pd/pd-0.43-0test2/bin$ ./pd works as expected, but : $ pd Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory will make more tests later cheers Cyrille Le 19/08/2010 18:32, Miller Puckette a écrit : Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i think the problem is, that my full auoconf support patch (building on what hans had done) was not fully applied originally. in the meantime this has been fixed, at least in git. i cannot currently download the release tarball (due to network speed) I tried from inside src with the other ./configure and it worked. If one ./configure is meant to be used over the other, the other better be removed, whichever that is. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 14:08 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I'm not counting files. I'm reading the code, and even diffing the code, and the difference is about 2% of the C code of the server. That should not come as a surprise since that was a clearly stated goal of this phase of the GUI rewrite. Then why is it that Miller's notes say that the GUI was completely rewritten ?... It seems like it's not very clear for everybody involved ! It should not come as a surprise, *therefore* Miller needs to state things differently ! The idea is to first rewrite the Tcl side, touching as little of the C code as possible. The Tcl side was rewritten from scratch, with lots of borrowing, where it made sense. With the amount of borrowing that I can see in the code, it would be more fair to say that perhaps half of the Tcl side was rewritten from scratch, but it would take more time to measure it more precisely. You know, if you search-and-replace to use namespace prefixes all over, and to use the proc _ for localisation, it doesn't count as rewriting those lines you changed. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir /path/to/my/pd( fgamr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
... but at least the help window in Pd should work, however it's installed :) I don't understand at all the various scripts install Pd or I'd fix this :) M On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:09:11PM +0200, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir /path/to/my/pd( fgamr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: Le 21/08/2010 22:09, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir /path/to/my/pd( who will tell me where pd really lives? cheers cyrille Only you know, where did you put it? :) There are so many ways to customize it. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Le 22/08/2010 00:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: Le 21/08/2010 22:09, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir /path/to/my/pd( who will tell me where pd really lives? cheers cyrille Only you know, where did you put it? :) There are so many ways to customize it. i did not customize anything. i just did a make install. cyrille .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
hello, ./configure, make and sudo make install work as usually /pd/pd-0.43-0test2/bin$ ./pd works as expected, but : $ pd Error in startup script: couldn't read file /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl: no such file or directory will make more tests later cheers Cyrille Le 19/08/2010 18:32, Miller Puckette a écrit : Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
I get this while ./autogen.sh : portaudio/Makefile.am: installing `m4/config/compile' configure.ac:236: required file `pd.pc.in' not found autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1 (I skipped the first 20 or 25 previous lines, giving only the last three) then if I try to do ./configure anyway, I get this : ./configure: line 3135: syntax error near unexpected token `IPHONEOS=yes,' ./configure: line 3135: `PD_CHECK_IPHONE(IPHONEOS=yes, IPHONEOS=no, as_fn_error iPhoneOS SDK not available $LINENO 5)' _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This must be something that Tcl/Tk is doing, tying into the system's theme. It could be changed with a one-liner GNU plugin. What does GNU plugin mean ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2010 09:21 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I get this while ./autogen.sh : i think the problem is, that my full auoconf support patch (building on what hans had done) was not fully applied originally. in the meantime this has been fixed, at least in git. i cannot currently download the release tarball (due to network speed) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxu26UACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ2jACg3htaC8IDep85uptMtBpYqVif llMAoNbXVNRZGbaq41FCy1IBArbXb2nl =Ce7I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This must be something that Tcl/Tk is doing, tying into the system's theme. It could be changed with a one-liner GNU plugin. What does GNU plugin mean ? Ha, good question! I meant GUI plugin. .hc I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. - Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:46 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2010 09:21 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I get this while ./autogen.sh : i think the problem is, that my full auoconf support patch (building on what hans had done) was not fully applied originally. in the meantime this has been fixed, at least in git. i cannot currently download the release tarball (due to network speed) I think it is in Miller's git by now, but perhaps not in the test2 tarball. .hc We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
The send/receive fields in number box properties are reversed :) 2010/8/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:46 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2010 09:21 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I get this while ./autogen.sh : i think the problem is, that my full auoconf support patch (building on what hans had done) was not fully applied originally. in the meantime this has been fixed, at least in git. i cannot currently download the release tarball (due to network speed) I think it is in Miller's git by now, but perhaps not in the test2 tarball. .hc We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- William Brent www.williambrent.com “Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century www.conflations.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This must be something that Tcl/Tk is doing, tying into the system's theme. It could be changed with a one-liner GNU plugin. What does GNU plugin mean ? Ha, good question! I meant GUI plugin. Anyway, I don't think it's a good idea to require manual installation of plugins for something as simple as get the patch background colour to what it should have been in the first place. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This must be something that Tcl/Tk is doing, tying into the system's theme. It could be changed with a one-liner GNU plugin. What does GNU plugin mean ? Ha, good question! I meant GUI plugin. Anyway, I don't think it's a good idea to require manual installation of plugins for something as simple as get the patch background colour to what it should have been in the first place. Patches welcome! .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Miller Puckette wrote: This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) There's a problem with your definition of comprehensive, rewrite or GUI. It's misleading. Most of the GUI code is in files named g_*.c where g stands for GUI, and those files are left almost untouched. There's more I could say, but those two facts should be enough to illustrate the problem. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Hey Matju, Instead of counting files, perhaps you should read the code and comment on that. Or even try running it! ;-) .hc On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:48 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Miller Puckette wrote: This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) There's a problem with your definition of comprehensive, rewrite or GUI. It's misleading. Most of the GUI code is in files named g_*.c where g stands for GUI, and those files are left almost untouched. There's more I could say, but those two facts should be enough to illustrate the problem. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Instead of counting files, perhaps you should read the code and comment on that. Or even try running it! ;-) I'm not counting files. I'm reading the code, and even diffing the code, and the difference is about 2% of the C code of the server. For the client, it's more complicated to tell the difference, because it's been split into smaller files, and namespaces have been added, but when opening random tcl files from that folder, I do recognise most of the lines as being quite exactly the same that I once all read over 6 years ago. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Hans, I know there's a more formal way to enter bugs for the GUI rewrite, but I encountered an issue when choosing Properties for objects (In my case, a canvas object). I can't move the window that pops up. There's an offset each time you open the menu again and eventually it will make its way towards the bottom of the screen and I can't access the buttons on the bottom of the window. I know I can just press enter and it will exit. You do have to be selecting Properties a lot to get to this point though. I've attached a screen shot. Let me know if this is just a matter of changing a parameter and if I need to post this somewhere else. Scott attachment: Properties_Bug.jpg___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 14:08 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Instead of counting files, perhaps you should read the code and comment on that. Or even try running it! ;-) I'm not counting files. I'm reading the code, and even diffing the code, and the difference is about 2% of the C code of the server. For the client, it's more complicated to tell the difference, because it's been split into smaller files, and namespaces have been added, but when opening random tcl files from that folder, I do recognise most of the lines as being quite exactly the same that I once all read over 6 years ago. That should not come as a surprise since that was a clearly stated goal of this phase of the GUI rewrite. The idea is to first rewrite the Tcl side, touching as little of the C code as possible. The Tcl side was rewritten from scratch, with lots of borrowing, where it made sense. In other words, one step at a time. :) .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Hey Scott, Thanks for reporting the bug, can you tell which version you are using? Also which platform are you on? .hc On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Scott McCoid wrote: Hans, I know there's a more formal way to enter bugs for the GUI rewrite, but I encountered an issue when choosing Properties for objects (In my case, a canvas object). I can't move the window that pops up. There's an offset each time you open the menu again and eventually it will make its way towards the bottom of the screen and I can't access the buttons on the bottom of the window. I know I can just press enter and it will exit. You do have to be selecting Properties a lot to get to this point though. I've attached a screen shot. Let me know if this is just a matter of changing a parameter and if I need to post this somewhere else. Scott ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Hello, Is the canvas color related to the desktop color scheme in a different way now? On ubuntustudio, with the default color scheme, the canvas is dark gray instead of white. I changed the my scheme (SystemPreferencesAppearance) to 'Clearlooks', and now the canvas is -almost- white :) gr, Tim 2010/8/19 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
Sounds like it, but I haven't seen this for myself. I'm currently using something pretty close to a default Ubuntu theme. .hc On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 01:09 +0200, tim vets wrote: Hello, Is the canvas color related to the desktop color scheme in a different way now? On ubuntustudio, with the default color scheme, the canvas is dark gray instead of white. I changed the my scheme (SystemPreferencesAppearance) to 'Clearlooks', and now the canvas is -almost- white :) gr, Tim 2010/8/19 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
I have one suggestion to the developers: at least with kde the canvas has the color of the current theme. It's ok, no problem. Can be prettier then the ugly old pd, but... the objects also have to have their color according to it because it somebody likes a dark theme with dark background he/she will not be able to see the objects because they are always black. 2010/8/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Sounds like it, but I haven't seen this for myself. I'm currently using something pretty close to a default Ubuntu theme. .hc On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 01:09 +0200, tim vets wrote: Hello, Is the canvas color related to the desktop color scheme in a different way now? On ubuntustudio, with the default color scheme, the canvas is dark gray instead of white. I changed the my scheme (SystemPreferencesAppearance) to 'Clearlooks', and now the canvas is -almost- white :) gr, Tim 2010/8/19 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
This must be something that Tcl/Tk is doing, tying into the system's theme. It could be changed with a one-liner GNU plugin. Here are some examples: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/ .hc On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I have one suggestion to the developers: at least with kde the canvas has the color of the current theme. It's ok, no problem. Can be prettier then the ugly old pd, but... the objects also have to have their color according to it because it somebody likes a dark theme with dark background he/she will not be able to see the objects because they are always black. 2010/8/19 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Sounds like it, but I haven't seen this for myself. I'm currently using something pretty close to a default Ubuntu theme. .hc On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 01:09 +0200, tim vets wrote: Hello, Is the canvas color related to the desktop color scheme in a different way now? On ubuntustudio, with the default color scheme, the canvas is dark gray instead of white. I changed the my scheme (SystemPreferencesAppearance) to 'Clearlooks', and now the canvas is -almost- white :) gr, Tim 2010/8/19 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Hi all, Pd version 0.43-0 test 2 is available on: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm This version features a comprehensive re-write of the GUI (almost entirely contributed by others!) I'm aiming to get the final 0.43-0 out by Aug. 31. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. - Chris McCormick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released
This was on Mac OS 10.5.8 with 0.43-0test2. I just tried it on 10.6.2 with 0.43-test2 without any problems. I'm able to drag the window. In the future, is it more appropriate to report these to the bug tracker linked from the Help section? Scott On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Hey Scott, Thanks for reporting the bug, can you tell which version you are using? Also which platform are you on? .hc On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Scott McCoid wrote: Hans, I know there's a more formal way to enter bugs for the GUI rewrite, but I encountered an issue when choosing Properties for objects (In my case, a canvas object). I can't move the window that pops up. There's an offset each time you open the menu again and eventually it will make its way towards the bottom of the screen and I can't access the buttons on the bottom of the window. I know I can just press enter and it will exit. You do have to be selecting Properties a lot to get to this point though. I've attached a screen shot. Let me know if this is just a matter of changing a parameter and if I need to post this somewhere else. Scott ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
