Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup
On 23 Mar 2002 at 17:36, Steve Pearson wrote: I'm looking to do some friends' (as well as possibly some semi-pro) jobs/portraits in the near future. I would like input from anyone who has a portable lighting system. What type of equipment do you have, how much will it cost me, etc. Well, my 2 bits worth - I have two Multiblitz Location Kits - one a 400 W/S kit that I've had for about a year, one a 200 W/S kit that I just picked up. They're GREAT - modelling lights are set up so that even with two strobes of different powers the modelling lights are still proportionate, they have optical slaves built-in which can be both a plus and a minus (Example - just tonight I was shooting a group photo of a sorority group using all four strobes and umbrellas - with about fifteen people shooting over my shoulders - I covered up all of the optical slaves with gaffers tape and rented a radio remote system so that only MY cameras would trip the strobes - very useful in THAT situation!) Anyway, they work very well in the studio and the kits are small enough to take anywhere - my car's not that large and I travel frequently with the whole setup in the back seat. Cost? About $1575 CAD for the 200 W/S set which is 2 lights, 2 reflectors, 2 umbrellas, 2 stands, power cables, a sync cord, and a carrying case, and about $1900 CAD for the 400 W/S Kit. If you are doing a lot of portraits and various studio and location work they're worth their weight in gold. What about a cheap portable back drop-any recommendations there? I picked up three backdrops from a group called Owen's Originals http://www.owens-originals.com and are totally happy with them. check them out online, look closely at the RBSM muslins, the RBSM Blue seems to be the most popular one I own. For backdrop stands Manfrotto makes a handy kit which is 2 stands, an extendable cross-piece, and 2 clamps with a carrying bag for about $275 CAD. A worthwhile investment. What about a flash meter-any suggestions/recommendations for brand, model, price, etc.? I've been using a cheapo Polaris for about 2 years. It's done really well for me so far, but I'm just about to upgrade, Minolta's Flashmeter-V is the one I've got my eyes on, but it's not cheap ($410-ish USD at most of the online houses, BH, Cameraworld, Adorama, etc). Any ideas suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Sorry, not an inexpensive suggestion, but that's the way I've gone. Cheers! Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: F5.6 and Be There
I made some critical focusing tests at one time, using a 105mm lens @ f/5.6 on the LX with the refconverter M, which allows for 2X magnification. With the camera on a tripod, I very carefully focused on the eyes of a nearby piece of sculpture from a distance of about ten feet or so. I then flipped the magnification to 2X and was surprised to find that the focus could have been more accurate. However, looking at 8X enlargements, I could not see any difference in sharpness from focusing at normal magnification and at 2X magnification. That doesn't mean there'd not be an observable difference at greater enlargements, or at a wider f-stop. Perhaps a better test would have been to focus on a one dimensional object, but I don't usually photograph such things. Fred Wasti did a DOF test using a yardstick set an an angle, and with a nail placed in it. He focused on the nail and was able to determine to some degree what the DOF was for a given lens/aperture setup. A setup such as that would, I think, be a good test for focusing accuracy. Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: Since mounting a 2X flip-up magnifier to my KX, and another to my Super Program, I've been amazed how it has helped me improve my focus, even for longer lenses. I now regard it as standard equipment. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: F5.6 and Be There
Works for me ... William Robb wrote: People use focus magnifiers? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
My comment was only a general one, because people very often fixate one one or two items on a spec sheet. I had assumed that you hadn't done this. --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not judging the camera by pixel count, I'm judging by the results I saw, and I specifically did not mention 6mp DSLR cameras. They use different lenses, to begin with - they use the same or similar lenses that are used on 35mm SLR cameras. Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Tom wrote: Vaporware. A non-working mock up. Did they actually make some that worked? Yes they did. They are probably the first who has a fully working full frame digital slr. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
William wrote: Seconded. I have a great love for my wood tripod. They don't ring, they are much stronger, and they are much harder to damage. If you ding the leg of a metal tripod, you can run into some problems with legs that no longer close, or in a worst case scenario, a leg that can fold under a heavy lens/camera system. If you damage a wood tripod leg, you get out the sandpaper and varnish. I keep forgetting about Berlebach tripods. My Gitzo is dented so that one of it's leg won't retract. My Manfrotto has one bent leg so it suffers from the same problem as my Gitzo... Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Bruce wrote: Pentax will have a hard time being price competetive with a first DSLR compared to the more experienced makers. Who are the more experienced makers? Just because Nikon and Canon released immature digital slr's at a loss at an early stage doesn't necessarily put them in a better position. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Frank wrote: I'm not sure what your point is. Pentax' older gear satisfies my needs, at a fraction of the price of newer equipment. As long as such high quality used gear is out there, I have no intention of buying new. Is there something wrong with that? Or have I missed your point? I wasn't refering to you in particular. It's fine that some are happy with older equipment. It's just that some of those users seem not to want Pentax to put out anything desirable anymore. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
That ranks right up there with going back to get a piece of gear and finding that your kit is missing and nobody noticed where it went or who took it. An assistant that actually looked after the gear would have helped in both cases, I guess. At least I had insurance when that happened. You have my heartfelt sympathy. Len It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: F5.6 and Be There
Hi, Perhaps a better test would have been to focus on a one dimensional object is there such a thing? How would we see it? g --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, March 24, 2002, 2:58:55 PM, you wrote: I made some critical focusing tests at one time, using a 105mm lens @ f/5.6 on the LX with the refconverter M, which allows for 2X magnification. With the camera on a tripod, I very carefully focused on the eyes of a nearby piece of sculpture from a distance of about ten feet or so. I then flipped the magnification to 2X and was surprised to find that the focus could have been more accurate. However, looking at 8X enlargements, I could not see any difference in sharpness from focusing at normal magnification and at 2X magnification. That doesn't mean there'd not be an observable difference at greater enlargements, or at a wider f-stop. Perhaps a better test would have been to focus on a one dimensional object, but I don't usually photograph such things. Fred Wasti did a DOF test using a yardstick set an an angle, and with a nail placed in it. He focused on the nail and was able to determine to some degree what the DOF was for a given lens/aperture setup. A setup such as that would, I think, be a good test for focusing accuracy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 05:59 PM, Cotty wrote: Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will be a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is Canon glass because you're impatient? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
I say start over. No point handicapping those of us who guess early if/when new information/rumors surface. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Rob Brigham wrote: I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only customer lost to Pentax. Many more will leave soon and probably many of those will never return. They HAVE to get it done this year - their market is diminishing with every passing month. Would you buy it for $6000? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:33 PM, David Brooks wrote: Got another roll of BW back from the Y- M.Starting to like this format. Hlp me ...the Pentax 67 is calling you, David... ...don't resist, it's futile... ...join your brothers, we all float down here... -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:12 PM, William Robb wrote: I often find myself takin the b out of banal. Way back in high school, I mentioned that someone's work had 'put the anal back in analogy'. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:46 PM, Brendan wrote: You keep away from me your contageous, between you and Aaron the temptation is just to great. Yep, it's like Night of the Living Dead (or Resident Evil, for the young'uns): a 67 user bites you, and suddenly you need to buy a medium format camera. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 10:17 PM, David Brooks wrote: Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw mounts/and batteries were non existent in the GTA and no camera store would carry them as now one wanted them. Brilliant! Tell the customer who is trying to buy one that no one wants those. HAR! I would have said, angrily, Are you telling me that I'm no one? That I'm nobody? That your store has no use for me or my money? That I shouldn't even bother talking to you about the other dozen things I'd like to buy today because I'm inferior to you? I told a sales drone at Vistek something like that, when I called to inquire about a Limited lens price and he said, Pentax? Who uses that junk? I asked him to look up my account, as I had spent $10,000 there the week before (computer/monitor/scanners), and then asked to speak to someone else, so that I could avoid giving him even a single cent in commission. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool, just to sweeten the pot. I have one of those already. Me too! Nice loupe. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 10:46 PM, David Brooks wrote: Got a distict vibe from the Henrys manager in NM that he does not like our preference of camera. I would call both Henry's head office and Pentax Canada and let them know about your poor treatment, and also that your growing digital event photography business will not be spending any more money at Henry's NM. That's the only way to get through to idiots like that. He can certainly have his preferences, but to be openly disdainful of a paying customer's gear is just plain rude. I had a customer who saw my LX and went on and on about how crappy the LX was and how he sold all his Pentax gear because it wasn't sharp at all, because he had made 30x40 prints of some macro shots of diamonds and they were out of focus. I asked if he had used the mirror lock, and he said, The what? I asked if he was using a tripod, and he said, No, why would I? I told him that I was of the opinion that bad technique was to blame. He said, No way, it was that garbage Pentax lens. I asked him what his sharpest lens was, and he said it was his Nikkor 80-200mm f2.8. I issued him a challenge -- I told him to bring his gear, and we'd put it up against my LX and my A* 200mm f2.8, and if his was noticeably sharper at 30x40, I'd give him his printing for free. Also I'd supply the materials. He said he would, but that was nearly a year ago, and both times I've seen him since then he hasn't mentioned it. -Aaron p.s. his 645 stuff was out of focus at 20x30, too. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Well, If Pentax EVER comes up with an SLR with similar specs in the future, I'll probably be one of the first people to buy one. I'm basically looking for 4-6 Megapixels, full frame, the ability to use my 35mm lenses, compact flash (firewire not important to me), and a price below 2k USD. I figure a year or two before Pentax can produce this at the price given. If the foveon chip is added into the mix, it would be that much more desireable. Illinois Bill Pål Jensen wrote: Tom wrote: Vaporware. A non-working mock up. Did they actually make some that worked? Yes they did. They are probably the first who has a fully working full frame digital slr. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Submission to the PUG
Hi; I'm having problems uploading my submission for the May PUG. I have resized the image to 72KB in Photoshop. When I go to submit the image a warning screen comes up saying that I need to submit something larger the 1KB. What am I doing wrong? I e-mailed a copy to myself and it shows 72KB. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tamron 300f2.8
nah, I couldn't justify the expense anyway. Just wanted to have a crack at! Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been watching this auction for a couple of days. somebody sniped me after I had the high bid 30 seconds to go! I hope it was someone on the list. What a bargain! Christian. You are such a nice-guy. If it were me, I'd be grinding my teeth and saying I hope they burn in hell. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: F5.6 and Be There
Yes ... that has been pointed out. What I meant was a flat object, one in a single plane, but I suppose you knew that g. Mick Maguire wrote: A one dimensional object is, in theory, a single point. You would have trouble seeing it. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:46 PM, Brendan wrote: You keep away from me your contageous, between you and Aaron the temptation is just to great. Then Aaron chimed in... Yep, it's like Night of the Living Dead (or Resident Evil, for the young'uns): a 67 user bites you, and suddenly you need to buy a medium format camera. How true it is! I picked up a used Y-M to see what all the fuss was about in MF. Less than 4 months later I'm now the owner of a 645/75-2.8 and I'm trying to figure out how to hide more lenses and a 220 insert from the war department. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Hi, Pal, Thanks for clarifying. I'm not so self-absorbed to think that you were referring to me in particular - or at all! vbg And, to clarify my earlier post, I certainly am not one of those who thinks that Pentax puts out junk, and that only their earlier stuff is somehow worthy. It's just that their older gear suits my needs. At our Toronto meeting a month or so ago, I got to look at and hold Pat's MZ S and Brendan's MZ 3, and they're beautiful pieces of equipment. If I had the money - well, actually, if I had the money, I'd buy a 67, or a bunch of lenses for my MX or Spotmatics. ;-) Beyond the fact that I may well make a new purchase some day, I do have a vested interest in Pentax putting out high-quality new stuff: it keeps the used market flooded with Pentax stuff, being sold to finance other's new purchases. cheers, frank Pål Jensen wrote: I wasn't refering to you in particular. It's fine that some are happy with older equipment. It's just that some of those users seem not to want Pentax to put out anything desirable anymore. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Thanks for your sympathy. I was remarkably cool about it...just pulled it off, stuck the 120 on there and backed up. The camera itself seemed to work fine, so I kept going with the 35 and 120. In retrospect that may have been a bad move...the mirror or some other gizmo might have gotten out of whack. We'll see soon enough. The assistant was my 4th stringer, and she'll no longer be working with me. She wasn't very good anyway...she tends to get swept up in the ceremony and cry, and when I let her shoot she only takes pics of little kids. She started bawling when the camera fell over... I've developed a pretty good relationship with Pentax service lately (they probably know me by first name), so I'm just going to send the lens and body in to Pentax and see what they say. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Limited Lens Pool II
- Pool opens up again 3/25/02 an noon est. - Pool closes 4/1/02 at noon est. - Prior guesses will stand. - If you want out just say so. - Pool will be in effect until the end of 2002. - In addition to what's in the kitty, winner gets a Pentax 5.5x loupe. Winner can subsitute unspecified Pentax trinkets if he already has the loupe. - We need 3 volunteers for the too-close-to-call committee. Sound ok? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Sorry Tom. That's really bad news. I hope your insurance covers it. Many years ago I was shooting a race car with my Speed Graphic and my TLR Mamiya. I had the SG on the tripod, and the Mamiya and a few odds and some film holders were in the original Graflex Speed Graphic case. The car owner decided to move his truck and backed over my case, crushing case, film holders, and Mamiya. Fortunately, his insurance covered it, although I assume he had to come up with the deductible. The total was around $500, which was a fair amount of money twenty-five years ago. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Yes. - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Rob Brigham wrote: I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only customer lost to Pentax. Many more will leave soon and probably many of those will never return. They HAVE to get it done this year - their market is diminishing with every passing month. Would you buy it for $6000? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
I'm just curious... does Nikon, Kodak, and Canon really produce their own DSLRs??? In this day and age of manufacturing, it always seems that people are outsourcing the manufacturing to a supplier(s) for experience/quality/cost reasons... so couldn't it be possible that there is some company out there that really produces these cameras for Canon, Nikon, and/or Kodak and Pentax might just go to them to manufacture their camera? In which case the supplier should have some experience if they've already produced one DSLR for another big name camera company like Nikon or Canon Just curious... any ideas anyone? Gabe - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR! The Kodak cameras were expensive. I don't see why quoting the Canon price isn't fair. It's on the BH site and they are taking orders. Repeating a price, based on speculation, to make a point is stretching things, but I don't think that that's the case here. One of the things that the high prices of the first DSLRs reflect is the first time development costs. It costs more to develop something you haven't done before than succeeding improved models. There is a real learning curve for a company when it tries to do a completely new product. Having worked for a high tech company for almost 20 years, I've seen this happen many times. Pentax will have a hard time being price competetive with a first DSLR compared to the more experienced makers. --- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't photojournalists used to buy big, fat Kodak DSLR's based on Nikon and Canon bodies for tens of thousands of dollars? Seems like prices only really dropped when Nikon put out the original D1 a couple of years ago. I got the $7K figure from price rumors related to the never-introduced Pentax full-frame digital SLR. BTW, no fair quoting prices for the Canon D60 and Nikon D100! They aren't even available yet! :-) --Mark Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The Pentax DSLR prototype was functional!
Phil Askey over at http://www.dpreview.com actually handled a working example at PMA in 2001. From his brief comments, I think he liked it. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. [painful story snipped] Ouch, Tom... that's pretty harsh. Hopefully the camera survived intact, though. Good thing it didn't land on a 67, or it would have been totaled beyond all repair. ;) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Uh, right. Let's see who's where in 5 years. --- Pål_Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who are the more experienced makers? Just because Nikon and Canon released immature digital slr's at a loss at an early stage doesn't necessarily put them in a better position. Pål Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: F5.6 and Be There
oops I was wrong actually (it's get a while since I did this stuff at college). 0 dimensional object = point. 1 dimensional object = line. 2 dimensional object = plane (like a square). 3 dimensional object = solid (like a cube). 4 dimensional it starts getting tricky. n dimensional just screws with your head. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Limited Lens Pool II
Sounds OK. I`ll volunteer. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:34 AM Subject: Limited Lens Pool II - Pool opens up again 3/25/02 an noon est. - Pool closes 4/1/02 at noon est. - Prior guesses will stand. - If you want out just say so. - Pool will be in effect until the end of 2002. - In addition to what's in the kitty, winner gets a Pentax 5.5x loupe. Winner can subsitute unspecified Pentax trinkets if he already has the loupe. - We need 3 volunteers for the too-close-to-call committee. Sound ok? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Abreviations
I did no find OT on the list-I know it must be important, but what does that stand for? --- Familie Scheffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often have a look at http://www.zeusprod.com/glossary/a.html You can find there a look of abbreviations - but not those of radio ham : - )) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:09:02 -0500 From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Abreviations Hi. I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the life of me figure IIRC. Someone should make a commonly used abbreviation list to post in the archives. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:15:11 -0500 From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Abreviations IF I RECALL CORRECTLY JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Butch Black Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 PM To: Pentax discussion group Subject: Abreviations Hi. I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the life of me figure IIRC. Someone should make a commonly used abbreviation list to post in the archives. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Nikon and Canon make their own bodies. The Kodak DSLRs were a combination of Canon/Nikon body with Kodak electronics. There is every indication that Canon does a lot more of their electronics in house than Nikon. Aside from the Nikon FE10/FM10 (built by Cosina) I don't think Nikon or Canon use contract manufacturers for their bodies. When a company outsources/contract manufactures, for anything much more complicated than piece parts, it's done to the contracting company's design and specification. If a product is rather new there has to be a great deal of interaction between the two companies, because of all the engineering changes. My company only does this to save money, or at least make it look like it's cheaper. Some companies do this because they don't know how to make things, but they still have to know how to design them. The big camera companies know how to make cameras. They do, however, set up factories in other countries to take advantage of cheaper labor. This is something else though. --- gabriel bovino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious... does Nikon, Kodak, and Canon really produce their own DSLRs??? In this day and age of manufacturing, it always seems that people are outsourcing the manufacturing to a supplier(s) for experience/quality/cost reasons... so couldn't it be possible that there is some company out there that really produces these cameras for Canon, Nikon, and/or Kodak and Pentax might just go to them to manufacture their camera? In which case the supplier should have some experience if they've already produced one DSLR for another big name camera company like Nikon or Canon Just curious... any ideas anyone? Gabe - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR! The Kodak cameras were expensive. I don't see why quoting the Canon price isn't fair. It's on the BH site and they are taking orders. Repeating a price, based on speculation, to make a point is stretching things, but I don't think that that's the case here. One of the things that the high prices of the first DSLRs reflect is the first time development costs. It costs more to develop something you haven't done before than succeeding improved models. There is a real learning curve for a company when it tries to do a completely new product. Having worked for a high tech company for almost 20 years, I've seen this happen many times. Pentax will have a hard time being price competetive with a first DSLR compared to the more experienced makers. --- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't photojournalists used to buy big, fat Kodak DSLR's based on Nikon and Canon bodies for tens of thousands of dollars? Seems like prices only really dropped when Nikon put out the original D1 a couple of years ago. I got the $7K figure from price rumors related to the never-introduced Pentax full-frame digital SLR. BTW, no fair quoting prices for the Canon D60 and Nikon D100! They aren't even available yet! :-) --Mark Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Limited Lens Pool II
On 24 Mar 2002 at 9:49, Steve Larson wrote: Sounds OK. I`ll volunteer. You'll volunteer for the too-close-to-call committee? That's very generous, seeing as how you're in the pool. ;) BTW, if you need reminding, the link is http://www.bigdayphoto.com/limited.html tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Subject: Abreviations
On 24 Mar 2002 at 9:52, Steve Pearson wrote: I did no find OT on the list-I know it must be important, but what does that stand for? Off Topic. Stick that in the subject if you post a message that doesn't really have to do with the purpose of the list. Purpose is usually defined pretty broadly here tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
That's the one thing that sometimes pisses me off about Vistek, they treat you like you don't matter unless you own/shoot high end Nikon/Leica or if you're a pro. Whenever I've walked in there, and asked about Pentax stuff, they've given me the same sort of look/attitude. It's like I walked into Tiffany's and was asking about Timex watches or something like that. Having worked for YEARS (16 to be exact) in customer service, it behooves me to understand why a salesperson would poo poo a potential client when they ask for an item that is either 1) not in stock or 2) they feel the product is not as good as the high end equipment. I think Aaron did exactly the right thing. I think I would have asked to speak to their manager and explain the amount of coin I dropped previously in the store and that I didn't appreciate being looked down upon because I use equipment that I own and I like to use. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 10:17 PM, David Brooks wrote: Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw mounts/and batteries were non existent in the GTA and no camera store would carry them as now one wanted them. Brilliant! Tell the customer who is trying to buy one that no one wants those. HAR! I would have said, angrily, Are you telling me that I'm no one? That I'm nobody? That your store has no use for me or my money? That I shouldn't even bother talking to you about the other dozen things I'd like to buy today because I'm inferior to you? I told a sales drone at Vistek something like that, when I called to inquire about a Limited lens price and he said, Pentax? Who uses that junk? I asked him to look up my account, as I had spent $10,000 there the week before (computer/monitor/scanners), and then asked to speak to someone else, so that I could avoid giving him even a single cent in commission. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Limited Lens Pool II
I swear I wouldn`t cheat, but I recuse myself. It should be judged by non competitors. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Limited Lens Pool II On 24 Mar 2002 at 9:49, Steve Larson wrote: Sounds OK. I`ll volunteer. You'll volunteer for the too-close-to-call committee? That's very generous, seeing as how you're in the pool. ;) BTW, if you need reminding, the link is http://www.bigdayphoto.com/limited.html tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Limited Lens Pool II
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Steve Larson wrote: I swear I wouldn`t cheat, but I recuse myself. It should be judged by non competitors. Nah, I volunteer. I won't cheat either, but donations by competitors are always welcome. ;) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
Hummm.Wife wants a new floor,Pentax 645 page stored in my favorites.I kinda like the floor i have now,whats that ,coming dear. pssst:I'lll be backg Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:51:02 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:33 PM, David Brooks wrote: Got another roll of BW back from the Y- M.Starting to like this format. Hlp me ...the Pentax 67 is calling you, David... ...don't resist, it's futile... ...join your brothers, we all float down here... -Brother Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
I got new glasses in December hint hint Daveg From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. his 645 stuff was out of focus at 20x30, too. End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Yes, apparently the did actually have fully working prototypes. Or so, I have been assured by a reliable source who says he actually handled one of the prototypes, and shot some images with it. Now, I know for sure Pentax is nuts! They only reason they wouldn't have sold one, or two, to me is because I don't have the money... Not everyone is in that unfortunate position. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Digital SLR Tom wrote: Vaporware. A non-working mock up. Did they actually make some that worked? Yes they did. They are probably the first who has a fully working full frame digital slr. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash Sync. Speed
Hi Jim.I cannot answer you quiry,but i remember this was talked about late last year.You might want to check the archives to see if they are still on the server.That might help Dave Begin Original Message From: Jim Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:10:04 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flash Sync. Speed I am having troble with flash sync. speed on my Z-5. The Z-5 is a dirivitive of the Z-1 (or PZ-1) sold only in Japan. It is basicly the same as a Z-1 with fewer Pentax Functions and the functions can only be adjusetd by an autherized dealer. THe problem I am having is when I mount my AF- 280t flash, the highedt sync. speed I can get is 1/60 of a second. If I only use the built in pop up flash I can go all the way to 1/250 of a second. I do not have any Pentax digital flash unit t o try. THeaks in advace for your input. Jim Fellows - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Limited Lens Pool II
- - Pool opens up again 3/25/02 an noon est. - - Pool closes 4/1/02 at noon est. - - Prior guesses will stand. - - If you want out just say so. - - Pool will be in effect until the end of 2002. - - In addition to what's in the kitty, winner gets a Pentax 5.5x loupe. Winner can subsitute unspecified Pentax trinkets if he already has the loupe. - - We need 3 volunteers for the too-close-to-call committee. Sound ok? Yep. I'll stick. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is Canon glass because you're impatient? Yes, but - Actually, I would probably be slightly less committal to Canon, by buying a used D30 and a Tokina 28-70 for starters. D30 prices are already falling fast. Three months ago, there was only a page or so of D30s on eBay. Now there are three pages. In six months there will be 10 pages. I would not sell my LX and best glass, rather gauging the market over time. Some K mount Tokinas would go to fund the D30, but LX and 85 mil would stay for a while, possibly for ever, if I can afford it. Time would be spent gauging Pentax DSLR commitment (if any), and if there was something forthcoming, I might swap back. Or I might not. I reserve the right to make my mind up as I go based on what's available versus what my requirements are. But as I see it, I will be shooting some digital by year's end one way or the other. I wouldn't desert my Pentax film gear completely (ever) - there are some things which always remain precious, as we all know. I wouldn't consider my course of action as impatience. I simply would like to pursue a certain means to an end, and I'd rather not spend extra money having to buy new lenses as well as a digital body. Actually I have nothing against Canon at all. Of course I would prefer to stay with Pentax, as I have been loyal to the brand since 1978. But since then I have also owned and used Mamiya and Leica gear also. It didn't preclude me using Pentax gear, and I don't foresee any change in that policy. Hope this clarifies my personal intentions. I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only customer lost to Pentax. Many more will leave soon and probably many of those will never return. They HAVE to get it done this year - their market is diminishing with every passing month. Would you buy it for $6000? No! Best, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Submission to the PUG
Hi Butch, If you are using Netscape navigator and the automated submission page to try and submit your entry, then the incompatibility of netscape and the HTML language used to build the autosubmission page is the problem. I also tried to do that, got the same message you did. I opened Internet Explorer and used the auto page, and everything worked fine. I think the incompatibility issue was brought up some time ago. I had forgotten, and remembered only after trying to send a picture for the April gallery in Netscape Communicator, my normal means of internet browsing. If you don't have Internet Explorer, you'll have to do your submission manually, via email and attachment, or download the browser... Hope this helps, Sid B PS: I have noticed from time to time Netscape will not open certain pages around the web, even though I've got Netscape 6.2... If anyone knows the precise reason why some HTML coding won't work with any forms of Netscape, I'd like to know why. I want to continue to be a good little Steve Jobs soldier, and shun any forms of MS and Gates influence I figure it's the moral thing to do..;^/ Butch Black wrote: Hi; I'm having problems uploading my submission for the May PUG. I have resized the image to 72KB in Photoshop. When I go to submit the image a warning screen comes up saying that I need to submit something larger the 1KB. What am I doing wrong? I e-mailed a copy to myself and it shows 72KB. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Pentax DSLR prototype was functional!
Phil Askey over at http://www.dpreview.com actually handled a working example at PMA in 2001. From his brief comments, I think he liked it. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/01021106pentaxdigitalslr.asp Mark, I wish you wouldn't post that URL - every time I see it I weep! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Hope you had insurance, and that the assistant is still alive. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 1:52 AM Subject: OHMYGOD I set up the tripod, attached th 645n. Grabbed the AF500FTZ out of the bag, attached a long 5p and a Quantum. Attached the 5p to the camera and handed the flash and battery to my assistant. I turn around for 2 seconds...and hear my rig crash to the ground. She had just sort of walked off with the flash in her hand. Yes, the one attached to the camera. It fell nose first, and the FA 45-85/4.5 took the brunt. It appears to be toast. The filter ring is completely bent, and I can't turn the focusing ring. Wah. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2387
This is one I don't understand. I recently lost an item that I bid on at the last few seconds. I lost because someone who had bid earlier's max bid was the same as my max bid. He bid earlier, he won. Simple as that. Someone's max bid was higher than Christian's whether that bid was done in the last few seconds or not makes no difference. If the max bids had been the same Cristian's earlier bid would have won. The other sniper had no way of knowing what Cristian's max bid was so he did not win by simply bidding a penny more. Sniping helps you get the item for less than if you started a bidding war earlier on, it does not kept someone from simply outbidding you. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 2:53 AM Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2387 I've been watching this auction for a couple of days. somebody sniped me after I had the high bid 30 seconds to go! I hope it was someone on the list. What a bargain! Christian. You are such a nice-guy. If it were me, I'd be grinding my teeth and saying I hope they burn in hell. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind that they were serious about digital? Is there any doubt in your mind now that they are serious about digital? Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Rob Brigham wrote: I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only customer lost to Pentax. Many more will leave soon and probably many of those will never return. They HAVE to get it done this year - their market is diminishing with every passing month. Would you buy it for $6000? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup
??? The peanut slave, I mentions is made by Wein specifically for the Vivitar 283/285 strobes it cost $25-30. The light from the flash tethered to the camera fires it. Since the camera the original poster mentioned doesn't have a pc connector he would have to get one of those hot foot to hot shoe cables. Almost any of them will work for manual flash. Dedicated flash requires the correct one for your camera. No filters would be needed for negative film as long as the makeshift studio is a fairly neutral color. Just as they would not be needed for on camera strobe, nor would they be needed for Studio Strobes. Hot lights would require a filter, or tungsten film. But, of course, my main point was he doesn't have to go out and spend big bucks to get started. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup Hi Tom.I'm assumming from your reply(good advice again)that these hotshoe adaptors can handle more than one cable. Are they still readily available in stores,or at least through Pentax. Would filters be needed for this type of lighting or would they be needed mostly for studio lighting. Thanks Dave Begin Original Message From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 22:31:57 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help on Portable Lighting Setup Well, to start with I would get a peanut slave for the Vivitar, a couple of umbrellas, and light stands. I would set the 200 T in an umbrella up next to the camera and fire it with a sync cord. The Vivitar I would put in the other umbrella and set up about 45 degrees to the side. Considering the relative power I would set both umbrellas about the same distance, say 5 feet from the subject(s). Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Tom wrote: Now, I know for sure Pentax is nuts! They only reason they wouldn't have sold one, or two, to me is because I don't have the money... Not everyone is in that unfortunate position. Frankly, I believe Pentax figured out that the market for a full frame, 6mp $6000-7000 slr was small indeed. Particularly when the competition release $2000 6mp slr's, even if they are not full frame. I think it was a wise decision - but the decision was in fact taken in the last minute. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: A few questions My Gitzo is dented so that one of it's leg won't retract. My Manfrotto has one bent leg so it suffers from the same problem as my Gitzo... Glad to hear I am not the only one that lives life to the fullest. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
I just picked up a seven foot wood monopod at my local lumber store. I can't figure how to attach the camea though. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: A few questions William wrote: Seconded. I have a great love for my wood tripod. They don't ring, they are much stronger, and they are much harder to damage. If you ding the leg of a metal tripod, you can run into some problems with legs that no longer close, or in a worst case scenario, a leg that can fold under a heavy lens/camera system. If you damage a wood tripod leg, you get out the sandpaper and varnish. I keep forgetting about Berlebach tripods. My Gitzo is dented so that one of it's leg won't retract. My Manfrotto has one bent leg so it suffers from the same problem as my Gitzo... Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Question about K 50mm f/1.2 on eBay
Hello all, Newbie question. I've been lusting after the K or A50 f1.2 after reading numerous archived posts about this lens. Found this on eBay this morning - does this look like the genuine article? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1341554809 Any opinions on cosmetics, from those who own/have handled this lens? Thanks. ...ME/ME-Super/P30t in Portland, OR _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Tom; this might make you feel consoled.. Or not. http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Oops1.jpg http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/Oops2.jpg William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 09:46 PM, Brendan wrote: You keep away from me your contageous, between you and Aaron the temptation is just to great. Yep, it's like Night of the Living Dead (or Resident Evil, for the young'uns): a 67 user bites you, and suddenly you need to buy a medium format camera. Brendan, your model shoots will look a lot better shot on a 6x7 Brother William - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax WILL produce a digital SLR!
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Uh, right. Let's see who's where in 5 years. Pentax seems to have marketing savvy. I wouldn't count them out. Bruce, on the other hand, will be back on the Nikon list. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A few questions....
As always I recommend Berlebach tripods. www.berlebach.de Seconded. I have a great love for my wood tripod. They don't ring, they are much stronger, and they are much harder to damage. If you ding the leg of a metal tripod, you can run into some problems with legs that no longer close, or in a worst case scenario, a leg that can fold under a heavy lens/camera system. If you damage a wood tripod leg, you get out the sandpaper and varnish. I keep forgetting about Berlebach tripods. William Robb Noted. My first one was hollow aluminium, even more easy to damage. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
6x7 165/4, MLU, synch tests
Okay, I tried mirror lock up with the 165/4 leaf shutter lens. Doesn't work. Pushing the mirror lock switch triggers the leaf shutter. Of course the focal plane shutter remains closed, so you get an extremely underexposed shot of the shutter curtain -- an empty frame. Then you get another empty frame releasing the shutter, so that you can move on. No big deal, but MLU and leaf shutter are incompatible. I was anxious to do some high speed synch flash shots, so my wife and daughters hid. (They're extremely camera shy.) Amy is on vacation, so I went to see my next most willing models: the Canadian Geese. I brought along a slice of a nice Onion Rye to entice them. They were very pleased, and I was able to shoot some of them full frame. When I ran out of bread, they attacked. I had to make a run for it. I much prefer shooting Amy, who is far better behaved. BTW, I developed the film (Kodak PXP). Looks good. Perhaps I'll scan one and post it later tonight. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 05:59 PM, Cotty wrote: Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will be a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is Canon glass because you're impatient? Good point Aaron. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX user spotted in Canada
No not Aaron, he was at the store but there are quite a few Canuks that don't shoot 67, yet. --- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure that wasn't Aaron out there with his LX ? :) and Mark; 30k ? In this cold weather you must have some lungs for that ! Hope you beat a personal best ! Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LX user spotted in Canada I ran a 30k race in Hamilton, Ontario today and as I was approaching the finish line, I spotted someone taking photos with what I believe was an LX. Just goes to show that not all Canadians are 67 users ;-) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
Here's one of my goose shots from this afternoon: http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/_uimages/goosebw.jpg It's at f11/1/250 with ugly, straight on flash from the AF400T. Nevertheless, it demonstrates that the high speed synch is functional. Seconds after I had recorded the exposure, this dreaded fowl attacked me, sending me sprinting toward the sanctuary of my automobile. There are those who believe that these ungainly creatures represet the first wave of a mighty Canadian invasion force. I pray that this is not to be. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
Resistanca Is Futile! steven --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
That has to be the best portraits of a goose I've seen in a while. As for us invading don't worry, were too busy defending ourselves from these winged beasts our selves. --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one of my goose shots from this afternoon: http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/_uimages/goosebw.jpg It's at f11/1/250 with ugly, straight on flash from the AF400T. Nevertheless, it demonstrates that the high speed synch is functional. Seconds after I had recorded the exposure, this dreaded fowl attacked me, sending me sprinting toward the sanctuary of my automobile. There are those who believe that these ungainly creatures represet the first wave of a mighty Canadian invasion force. I pray that this is not to be. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX user spotted in Canada
David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure that wasn't Aaron out there with his LX ? :) Nah, he didn't have the muscular build of someone who carries a 67 around on a regular basis! VBG and Mark; 30k ? In this cold weather you must have some lungs for that! Weather was *perfect* for distance running! Temp a bit above freezing, mostly sunny and no wind. Hope you beat a personal best ! Not this time. I've got some bothersome tendinitis in my left leg and I ran it at an easy pace just for a training run. Very enjoyable, though. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX user spotted in Canada
Actually, Mark is in training for his run from Linville, NC to the top of Grandfather Mountain. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure that wasn't Aaron out there with his LX ? :) Nah, he didn't have the muscular build of someone who carries a 67 around on a regular basis! VBG and Mark; 30k ? In this cold weather you must have some lungs for that! Weather was *perfect* for distance running! Temp a bit above freezing, mostly sunny and no wind. Hope you beat a personal best ! Not this time. I've got some bothersome tendinitis in my left leg and I ran it at an easy pace just for a training run. Very enjoyable, though. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tight Focus Ring on A50/1.4
Hi, I have an A50/1.4 and it has developed a tight spot in the focus ring. Could some one enlighten me as to what causes this? and is it easily fixable? Thanks, Paul Jones - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote: Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind that they were serious about digital? If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster, there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its customers want. Is there any doubt in your mind now that they are serious about digital? Digital? No doubt at all. Their Optio range is successful. For DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the price has gone down to low $1000+ range. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: F5.6 and Be There
Reminds me of one of my all-time favorite dictionary definitions, the Random House College Dictionary's definition of point: space without extension Perhaps a better test would have been to focus on a one dimensional object is there such a thing? How would we see it? g Bob Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rikenon 50 comments (was: Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?)
Mark, What I mean is, What did you aim at and how did you compensate? The scene is full of extreme tonal values with very little in the middle. Mark, First of all, how did you expose the statue shot at http://pug.komkon.org/01mar/rospug.html? I did not record the exposure - my guess is that it was in the f4 - 5.6 range with a shutter speed around 1/60. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
- Original Message - From: Lukasz Kacperczyk Subject: RE: OHMYGOD I'm very sorry for you and your ex-camera (but hey - it wasn't a Pentax so w hat's the whole fuss about ;) Lukasz I used the insurance money to underwrite the cost of a Pentax (6x7). William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
Ah, now I see why you don't like Bronica. Just not sturdy enough for your use. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: Re: OHMYGOD - Original Message - From: Lukasz Kacperczyk Hi, I'm a new one here (joined today, but read for a while), and have been sitting quietly not having anything to ask (yet), nor a startling news to reveal, but these two images of a dead camera are just too gory. What have you done to make it look like that and what masochistic impulse made you photograph the remains, William? Lukasz Kacperczyk That was a Bronica ETRs. It fell from the top of a 15 story building to the ground level patio. Stuff happens. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
It wan't attacking you, it thought you had somemore of that delishous bread in your pocket. You know better than to feed the bears (your are alive), now you know not to feed the geese either. smirk Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking Here's one of my goose shots from this afternoon: http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/_uimages/goosebw.jpg It's at f11/1/250 with ugly, straight on flash from the AF400T. Nevertheless, it demonstrates that the high speed synch is functional. Seconds after I had recorded the exposure, this dreaded fowl attacked me, sending me sprinting toward the sanctuary of my automobile. There are those who believe that these ungainly creatures represet the first wave of a mighty Canadian invasion force. I pray that this is not to be. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital SLR
Unfortunately, this is reality Canon style. I'm impressed. http://www.ssdonline.com/detail_page.cfm?Productid=EOSD60affid=A01urlid=EO SD60 COME ON PENTAX. GIVE IT TO US. IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME. Robert - Original Message - From: Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR Too bad this is a dream, huh? :( http://www.dpreview.com/news/0009/00091402pentaxdigitalslr.asp Robert - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Digital SLR You are just plain wrong. Go to http://www.dpreview.com/, poke around until you can find the 2meg - 3meg sample jpg files taken with the DSLRs. Down load them. open them up in a program where you can blow them up to 300 - 400%, and lood at what you see. The images are way better than you can get with any under 2K scanner. If you don't believe your own eyes, go here: http://www.photonews.com/forums/forums.html and see what working pros, who are using digital have to say. There are pros wha have dropped MF film for DSLRs. Just about all the folks saying that digital has a ways to go yet, turn out to be spectators. --- Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't need no stinkin' digital cameras! On a more serious note. I don't know much about digital; however, I'll offer my thoughts on it anyway. Take your pictures with high resolution tried and true film. Have the negatives (or slides) scanned by your processor OR buy the best scanner, computer and printer available NOW, scan the negatives yourself, and you can blow any digital camera currently made out of the water. I believe it would be cheaper than buying any digital SLR currently available. Do folks out there not know this? Digital is a big gotta have it now lie. Changes in digital capability will likely come fast what with Foveon vs. CCD and what not. You will be sitting in the dust in a couple of years resolution-wise as far as digital is concerned if you buy something today. Film is good now and always will be. Am I correct in my thinking and opinions? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Let's put it this way. If you were a studio pro, and you could buy the Pentax for $7000, or you could buy a 6MP 24x36mm digital back, probably with the same chip, for your Hasselblad for $16000. Which would you buy? I don't know, I don't understand, and I totally am at a lost to know why the fact that such an expensive camera won't sell to snapshooter's for hobby use makes everybody on the list think no one wants one. Either I am grossly stupid, or most of the people here are incapable of seeing beyond their own wallet. If you don't need it nobody needs it. A clear understanding of market dinamics, not! I said it before, GET REAL! Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote: Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind that they were serious about digital? If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster, there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its customers want. Is there any doubt in your mind now that they are serious about digital? Digital? No doubt at all. Their Optio range is successful. For DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the price has gone down to low $1000+ range. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want PS cameras in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I can not understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their obvious marketing bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too. Though I imaging electron microscopes are eating into that segment now. For what it is worth 35mm based 3MP digital SLRs have been around for more than a decade now. They are just getting down to where consumers notice them pricewise. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote: Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind that they were serious about digital? If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster, there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its customers want. Is there any doubt in your mind now that they are serious about digital? Digital? No doubt at all. Their Optio range is successful. For DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the price has gone down to low $1000+ range. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rikenon 50 comments (was: Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?)
It's a very nice shot. The statue, which is the highest value in the scene is somewhere around zone 7. None of the highlites are burned out. The blackest blacks are well within the range of the film. There aren't a lot of values in between because they don't exist in the scene. But where there are middle grays, such as at the base of the wall, they are well represented. And of course the single splotch of color is magnificent. Like much of Mark's work, it's a great photograph. Paul Stenquist Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: Mark, What I mean is, What did you aim at and how did you compensate? The scene is full of extreme tonal values with very little in the middle. Mark, First of all, how did you expose the statue shot at http://pug.komkon.org/01mar/rospug.html? I did not record the exposure - my guess is that it was in the f4 - 5.6 range with a shutter speed around 1/60. Paul Franklin Stregevsky - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OH....MY....GOD
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: OHMYGOD Ah, now I see why you don't like Bronica. Just not sturdy enough for your use. Could of been worse. There was no tripod attached William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking It wan't attacking you, it thought you had somemore of that delishous bread in your pocket. You know better than to feed the bears (your are alive), now you know not to feed the geese either. smirk Actually, it might well have been attacking him. We had a poor unfortunate get between an enraged goose and its goslings here a few years ago. The fellow had his arm broken in 3 places and nearly lost his sight. These birds are not to be trifled with. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote: I don't know, I don't understand, and I totally am at a lost to know why the fact that such an expensive camera won't sell to snapshooter's for hobby use makes everybody on the list think no one wants one. The whole point of Pentax making a prototype for the photo show to is gauge market reaction. And they will spend $$ for market research before releasing any new products (including studio pro). So if their research and the response to their prototype shows that it would not sell at that price range, they won't release it. As simple as that. Why would they not release a product if it will be profitable? I said it before, GET REAL! Yes, and the reality is that there simply are not enough people who is willing to spend $6000+ on a Pentax out there. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want PS cameras in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I can not understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their obvious marketing bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too. Though I imaging electron microscopes are eating into that segment now. I still don't know why Pentax dropped the 110Super. They could have made a killing with it if they had applied multipoint AF to it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
AAAgghhhhhh
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340677858r= 0t=0showTutorial=0ed=1017020948indexURL=0rd=1 William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Yet another finished darkroom
Now rounded out with an Omega B-22 and filter pack, I needed to spend some time cutting the filters to fit the in condensor filter tray and put the 3 condensors in right but the first 3 test prints look good. Shel BTW it is F5.6 and be there :-) __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
Actually, Bill, geese are rather vicious, even so called tame geese. But, that would not have been humorous. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:48 PM Subject: Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking It wan't attacking you, it thought you had somemore of that delishous bread in your pocket. You know better than to feed the bears (your are alive), now you know not to feed the geese either. smirk Actually, it might well have been attacking him. We had a poor unfortunate get between an enraged goose and its goslings here a few years ago. The fellow had his arm broken in 3 places and nearly lost his sight. These birds are not to be trifled with. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
And, think what a great digital it would have made. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:53 PM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want PS cameras in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I can not understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their obvious marketing bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too. Though I imaging electron microscopes are eating into that segment now. I still don't know why Pentax dropped the 110Super. They could have made a killing with it if they had applied multipoint AF to it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
T Rittenhouse wrote: Actually, Bill, geese are rather vicious... They can be quite offensive even if you do not go near them. A couple of times a year large numbers of them stop off at the island on which I live for a while in their wandering, and they take over the parkland so that no human can use it. Ugly they are, too. Clearly a beast that should be shot with a more lethal weapon than a camera. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking Actually, Bill, geese are rather vicious, even so called tame geese. But, that would not have been humorous. I don't joke about Canada geese. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Laugh after laugh
I ran accross this on one of the Linux newsgroups. I got a lot of laugh out of it. There might still be one left in there for you guys. http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers/descartes.txt Ciao, Graywolf - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Flash Sync. Speed,
I think I am the only other Z-5 user. I use a 330-FTZ flash unit and the camera always shows 250 as flash sync speed with either the built-in or 330-FTZ. I will go home today and find the user manual if it says anything about the analog flashes. Regards, Prasanta. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
Believe me I would love to use some large bore implement on them but we're not allowed to defend our selves from our national bird. --- Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T Rittenhouse wrote: Actually, Bill, geese are rather vicious... They can be quite offensive even if you do not go near them. A couple of times a year large numbers of them stop off at the island on which I live for a while in their wandering, and they take over the parkland so that no human can use it. Ugly they are, too. Clearly a beast that should be shot with a more lethal weapon than a camera. Bob - __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: I need an independant website checker.
I need to have this page viewed. Please tell me if 3 images show up on it. Also, what browser? Please respond privately to the email address below. http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/html/agility.html Thanks William Robb email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
In many places they are used instead of guard dogs. They are smart, intelligent, and can be very aggressive. William Robb wrote: Actually, it might well have been attacking him. We had a poor unfortunate get between an enraged goose and its goslings here a few years ago. The fellow had his arm broken in 3 places and nearly lost his sight. These birds are not to be trifled with. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AAAgghhhhhh
On 24 Mar 2002 at 22:10, William Robb wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1340677858r= 0t=0showTutorial=0ed=1017020948indexURL=0rd=1 AARGG say no more. Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:The Goose, Moments Before Attacking
On 24 Mar 2002 at 20:09, Paul Stenquist wrote: Here's one of my goose shots from this afternoon: Yup, they can be rather challenging to shoot http://www.bc-photo.com/images/oddgoose.jpg -BC - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Yet another finished darkroom
Now you've got to put some photos up so we can all see your handiwork and congratulate you on how cool you are and how neat the setup is. --- Shel Belinkoff F5.6 and be there :-) Brendan wrote: Now rounded out with an Omega B-22 and filter pack, I needed to spend some time cutting the filters to fit the in condensor filter tray and put the 3 condensors in right but the first 3 test prints look good. Shel BTW it is F5.6 and be there :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A few questions....
On 24 Mar 2002 at 14:01, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: A few questions My Gitzo is dented so that one of it's leg won't retract. My Manfrotto has one bent leg so it suffers from the same problem as my Gitzo... Glad to hear I am not the only one that lives life to the fullest. I have a Gitzo with all the bottom sections removed because I bent one of them about 45 degrees. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
