Re: I need a picture of the Z-1p grip
on 05.05.02 2:11, Bojidar Dimitrov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...for the KMP. Thanks a lot, Boz I have found one on BH Photo site, but it is stamped with their logo :-( -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: May PUG - what was I thinking of!
Kevin Waterson wrote: What I really like it the net. I think if the net _and_ the boy were in focus this may produce a very dynamic result. I did some quick and nasty editting and put the result at http://www.oceania.net/kevin/new.jpg to me, this is the type of result I would like to get for my teams individual photos. Wendy, Kevin has done a great job with your photo. But the creativity was there at the time, a great composition. As a former school goalkeeper, it sums up the moment for me. Nice work. Kevin, Thanks for a different slant on this. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 300mm f4 screwmount lens- value?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are some photos of a SMC Takumar 1:4/300 with tripod mount. Hey -- great! That's clearly the same lens I've got, so now I just have to track down a sample of that tripod mount! Wish me luck! :-) -tih -- Puritanism -- the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
Shel wrote: Oh, the M400/5.6 and the A400/5.6 as well. So that's a total of five that I can remember. And the FA* 400/5.6 ED IF. This one gives you ED glass and the inner focusing helps manual focusing. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: I need a picture of the Z-1p grip
The picture at BH isn't very nice and clear so may not be that useable. And for whatever its worth, I tried removing their logo. If its not a violation of copyright etc. then the jpg attached may be used. Gaurav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I need a picture of the Z-1p grip on 05.05.02 2:11, Bojidar Dimitrov at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...for the KMP. Thanks a lot, Boz I have found one on BH Photo site, but it is stamped with their logo :-( -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek - [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 91508A.jpg] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S (WAS: how good)
Ron wrote: But I don't understand how the *flash sync* shutter speed can influence battery usage. Because both the flash synch and max shutter speed is related to how fast the shutter travels. Faster travelling shutter = faster max speed and flash synch. Cocking a fast shutter needs more energy. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: May PUG - my comments
Fragile Fern - Geoffrey Stevens Nice colours, lovely and sharp. I can see why taking the dog is optional. They either pull your arm off when you're trying to frame a shot, trample the undergrowth or stick their wet nose on your lens. (mine does the latter) Wendy, Thank you for your kind comments. I agree, it's either the dog or the camera. Geoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; I have the opportunity to purchase the above named lens. One thing that bothers me is the lack of a tripod mount. If any owners of the lens would care to comment on the qualities of it, and whether the lack of a tripod socket is a fatal flaw, I would be interested in your responses. Hi Bill, I think that the lack of tripod mount is not a problem, but I use the lens mostly handheld. I was a bit scared to mount the cameras on the tripod with all that weight protruding out, but in real life there is no problem even with the MZ series cameras. Optically the 300/4 is very sharp and the huge weight helps to balance the vibrations. The focusing is quite easy, maybe a bit slow, but it's very precise. I often use the 1,4x S converter with it and the results are pleasing (I don't know how the combo compares to a true 400/5.6, though). The only (minor for me, but it can be annoying) real fault is the minimum focusing distance: 4 meters. A quick note about the price: I paid for mine US$ 282; it seemed to me a fair price at that time (a couple of years ago). Hope this helps. Gianfranco = Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: May PUG - what was I thinking of!
You're being too hard on yourself. I found the shot quite interesting. You managed to get a suggestion of net in the foreground, and a clear image of the player in the background. It's tough to get just the right depth of field for this kind of shot. Paul wendy beard wrote: Exactly that. What WAS I thinking of. I am incredibly embarassed and ashamed of the quality of the image I submitted for this month's PUG. http://pug.komkon.org/02may/penalty.html So much so, that I am even drawing attention to the fact that it's rubbish as a penance so I won't do it again. I really struggled with the scan (it doesn't look like I even tried) and even though I wasn't happy with it, I submitted it. I shouldn't have. My apologies. Guess what I bought yesterday. A film scanner. One down side to this, I can't blame my sloppiness on the scanner any more. The results? http://www.beard-redfern.com/footy1.html (second photo) Scan's better, but the photo's still rubbish! I'll try harder for the next PUG. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KINOPTIK 75MM
Anyone know this lens? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1350548709 == ¥@¬É¬×¡@°e¾÷²¼¡@¥ô§Aµª http://wc2002.sina.com.hk/game/ µ¹»·¤è¿Ë¤Í¶Ç¤WµLÅå³ß¡Ghttp://sms.sina.com.hk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Telescopes instead of super telephotos? (WAS: Pentax-A* 1200/8 ED IF)
Now this one look pretty expensive! http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/product/sougan/big/p250sd.jpg - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bellows Question...
Nick, I can't say about the Bellows A vs M differences because I believe they both do the following trick for aperture coupling... With the Bellows A, you focus with the lens wide open. When you go to shoot the picture, you fire the camera via a 'double' cable release. The release has two cable lines. One attaches to the lens end of the bellows and pushes the stop-down lever on the lens. The other attaches to the camera's shutter release and fires the shutter. Now here is the trick. The 'double' cable release is about 1/2 inch longer on the lens side, so as you depress the plunger the sequence becomes -- lens stops down, then shutter button is depressed. The regular aperture coupling isn't 'preserved', but you are always shooting 'at aperture' (stopped down) with the lens so exposure is correct. It seems to me, you could do this with the M bellows with a 'double' cable release. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that with certain bellows attachments you lose aperture coupling and have to figure out exposure manually accounting for the loss of light to the bellows. But is there a bellows that allows aperture coupling? Is that what the Bellows A that I recently saw advertised is? If it is not, what is the difference between Bellows A and M? Thanks you. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: May PUG
Thanks for your kind words. In photoshop I used the watercolour tool. In painter I used a soft cloner along with a few others I can't even remember... I think they were the fine marker tool and maybe some paintbrush In a message dated 5/5/02 7:13:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Painted Fox by Vic MacBournie Great effect. What filters etc did you use in Photoshop to get those effects? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Slight OT:My IR report
Hello Maciej.Glad i can help once in a while.I was very nervous about the first roll,even though a number of people gave advice on the relative ease of shooting. I followed the 1/125 f 11 in strong light and all looked well.I also made sure i loaded and unloaded in COMPLETE darkness.I have several shots with strong black skys and very white pine needles,looks cool. As far as film the main stores here carry Kodak and will order Ilford.As far as Konica goes maybe Aaron can answer that. I have bought some more Kodak and hope to shoot some this weekend at the Toronto PDML gettogether.Hope to scan a few and post soon. Dave Begin Original Message From: Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:44:53 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slight OT:My IR report - Original Message - From: David Brooks Well finally had the 1st roll of IR film shot and developed(1st since i was a sprout)and the proofs printed today.Just thought i'd share a quick review. Thanks Dave! Your summury encourages me to give IR a try. I seems less scary now. It seems that as soon as a nice weather is back I could give it a try. too. The leaves are already green and the sun seems to shine strongly enough. I'm probably getting the Kodak stuff as from what I've learned from the net, Ilford is not that IR sensitive as I wished and there are troubles getting Konica's film in here. The salesperson told me that Konica's IR750 film went out of production. Do any of you now anything about that? Is that really so or should I try to get it from Germany? Maciej - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Sorry,more home proccessing
My wife does not want me in the bathroom upstairs but to use the 'spare' room down stairs which is about the same temp.as yours and damp in the summer, so a dehumidifier runs almost constaint. If i use the downstairs room it might be advisable then to run a warm 'bath' in a tub and take it down to the room a little hotter and moniter during,and keep a bottle of warmer water near by to 'top up' the bath?? Dave Begin Original Message From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:17:34 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sorry,more home proccessing My darkroom is in my basement, and at this time of year the temperature is about 62 F. I find that if I start at 68, the temp will drop to about 66 after eight mminutes or so. So I start at 69 and finish at 67. I think ambient temp has a lot more to do with changes in developer temp than does any chemical reaction. How warm is your darkroom? Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm not certain that I can make this statement unequivocal, so note the qualifiers g It seems that the developer temperature creeps up a bit during the course of the process. I sometimes measure the temp at intervals during the processing, and, IIRC, not having made any notes, every time I've measured the temperature it's a bit higher at the end of the process than at the beginning. While handling the tank may contribute some to this, I wonder how much heat the chemical process puts out, and if that could be a factor in the upward temperature creep? OTOH, I am very careful about handling the tank, and do so only minimally and at the edges or by the securing ring around the cap. I also wonder if a water bath would mitigate the increase. Aaron Reynolds wrote: Yes. Here I'm talking about temperature dropping over the course of the fixing, or cooling slightly as it sits. I am not talking about radical changes in temperature. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
At 00:24 6-5-2002 -0400, Cesar wrote: As an owner of an A* 300/4 I can only comment that I have always used the lens without a tripod. I usually use it for sports photography - football, soccer, rugby. I have been very pleased with the ease of handheld usage. People at the photo lab have always commented favorably on the sharpness of the images. Cesar While we're talking about 300 f4 s of various incarnations, I took my M*300/4 out for a jaunt yesterday. Despite its small size it still feels a bit wobbly to hand-hold. That could have been more me though. In order to get a high shutter speed I was using it almost wide open and the focusing was a little difficult. Just having 200asa in the camera didn't help me either. It was an unexpected encounter with a little red squirrel after I'd effectively packed up for the day. Earlier in the day I'd nearly given myself a heart attack. Coming downstairs I dropped the lens. It landed big end down. Snatched it up and whisked off the lens cap. Horror! a chip in the glass. I nearly cried. Even worse, the glass was loose! Slow realisation kicked in. It was the UV filter. Relief all round! There's something to be said for filters after all. Time to order a new one. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SMC 135/2.5K vs. Vivitar Series One 135/2.3K: Color
Chris Brogden wrote: If one set of prints is much less rich in colour, I'd attribute that more to the printing or the exposure/lighting than to the lens itself. Chris, On this roll of film, five or six different lenses had been used, including both 135s. The Vivitar's colors were clearly more muted than the SMC's, and this is the second roll of film on which I found this to be true. The film was Fuji Superia Xtra 800. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
William Robb wrote: I have the opportunity to purchase the above named lens. One thing that bothers me is the lack of a tripod mount. If any owners of the lens would care to comment on the qualities of it, and whether the lack of a tripod socket is a fatal flaw, I would be interested in your responses. I have the M* version and am very pleased with it. For me it's an easy hand-hold, and it's about the shortest lens I can use for casual wildlife (ducklings, swans, squirrels, birds, etc.) at the local parks. Also use it for pan shots at sportscar races, mostly with my K1000 or the LX w/o the winder; the LX/winder combo is definitely heavy for that sort of thing. It's definitely very crisp and sharp, with nice bokeh. Like others, tripod use makes me uneasy because of all that weight hanging off the lens mount, but no actual problems so far... Stephen __ You got a Zarg in here? Are you *nuts*??? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: May PUG - my comments
Wendy Beard wrote: Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
The Rikenon 300/4.5 has a tripod collar, but it's small. It may be strong enough, but it's not beefy like the Pentax 300/4.5F's. The Sigma 300/4 APO Macro AF has a strong collar, but I don't think Shel would like its light focusing, which goes from infinity to 1:3 in 90 degrees. Its predecessor, the 300/4 APO (not macro), was made in manual focus and came with a decent collar. But I don't think Shel would like its construction, and optically it's not on par with the fine APO Macro. All the 300/2.8s have nice collars, but I got the impression Shel is looking for something more affordable. Various M42 300/4s have collars, but the Russian ones will not be optically great and the East German ones may have been designed for 6x6 and adapted to M42, without benefit of an auto switch. Of these, the nicest and most expensive is the Carl Zeiss Jena 300/4 Auto Electric MC (86mm filter!), which I believe does offer an Auto switch, as its name implies. I have an Austrian source that's selling it new, or perhaps reconditioned with warranty, for about $375. The Pentax 200/4 Macro collar will fit the 300/4.5 FA. I don't know how easily one could obtain it, or what it would cost I wish someone could find out which of the Canon EOS aftermarket tripod collars could be used on which Pentax 300/4s and 300 4.5s. -- Paul Stregevsky Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm on the lookout now for a high-quality 300mm/400mm with a good, strong tripod collar. Alan Chan replied: Unless you consider third party lenses, F*300/4.5 is the only option. Shel replied: I don't think that's correct. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: May PUG - my comments
Wendy Beard wrote: Just how long does it take - Mick Maguire Very Elliot Erwitt. This one ties for joint favourite with annsan. Reminds me of my other dog... Thanks Wendy, I'm flattered! This was my first entry to the PUG that I had taken from negative through to print all by my own fair hands. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
On Mon, 6 May 2002, wendy beard wrote: Earlier in the day I'd nearly given myself a heart attack. Coming downstairs I dropped the lens. It landed big end down. Snatched it up and whisked off the lens cap. Horror! a chip in the glass. I nearly cried. Even worse, the glass was loose! I planted the front end of my A50 f1.4 into the ground yesterday when I slipped down an embankment. I gave up filters for protection, preferring instead to stick to lens hoods. If I hadn't finally replaced the rubber hood with a metal one that morning, I'd have one less lens. I went on to nearly drop it in the stream a few times, and having the tripod nearly slip into the stream as well, that day. I guess no filter or hood would've protected it that well, but hey, I figured it was time I show my camera a little abuse for once. :) (I could go on about all the fabulous opportunities I missed in NYC this weekend, but it'd just depress me) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night)
Arrived Friday from BH, along with an BG-10. The not-inconsiderable manual has been at the top of the bathroom-reading pile all weekend. Basically, I'm thrilled. The build quality and overall heft/feel are impressive. So far the control logic and layout shout Pentax! i.e., what you really need, where you need it. Played with the trap-focus feature, which I think is going to serve me well at the racetrack this summer. It's my first AF body, so I can't nitpick it in comparison to, say, the PZ1-P. I'm sure there'll be minor annoyances that pop up as I learn the beastie, but no camera's perfect. For now I'm impressed. I think by tonight I'll be ready go out and actually burn some film with it. (Then it'll be time to start agonizing over my first AF lens...) Thanks to everyone who helped out with my AF questions a few weeks back. Regards, Stephen P.S. Peter, compared to my LX (ka-chunk, whirr), I *like* the hamster-sneeze shutter! __ You got a Zarg in here? Are you *nuts*??? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night)
Good for you. As soon as I rob a bank I'll also get it (or wouldn't it be easier to rob a camera store? ;) Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Moore Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:33 PM To: Pentax List Subject: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night) Arrived Friday from BH, along with an BG-10. The not-inconsiderable manual has been at the top of the bathroom-reading pile all weekend. Basically, I'm thrilled. The build quality and overall heft/feel are impressive. So far the control logic and layout shout Pentax! i.e., what you really need, where you need it. Played with the trap-focus feature, which I think is going to serve me well at the racetrack this summer. It's my first AF body, so I can't nitpick it in comparison to, say, the PZ1-P. I'm sure there'll be minor annoyances that pop up as I learn the beastie, but no camera's perfect. For now I'm impressed. I think by tonight I'll be ready go out and actually burn some film with it. (Then it'll be time to start agonizing over my first AF lens...) Thanks to everyone who helped out with my AF questions a few weeks back. Regards, Stephen P.S. Peter, compared to my LX (ka-chunk, whirr), I *like* the hamster-sneeze shutter! __ You got a Zarg in here? Are you *nuts*??? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
Shel: This is probably going off in a completely different direction than you wanted but I'm wondering why you, or anyone for that matter, would continue to process film and work in the darkroom when you have the option of doing it all with the computer. I recognize that there is a certain amount of enjoyment going into the darkroom and watching your film and pictures develop right there in front of you. But the health concerns, the time and, of course, the money involved in darkroom work makes a scanner, computer and printer such a tempting alternative. And if it's BW we're talking about. Shoot colour and convert it to BW, and your off and running. I would hesitate to invest any money in traditional BW techniques at this point... Just my opinion Vic In a message dated 5/5/02 6:03:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate developing film. It's been said that a Jobo machine will at least make the pain endurable. Well, I've resisted getting a machine until now. I read (perhaps here) that using a Jobo can free you up to shoot more film, as it can be processed automatically. I wouldn't have to burn film with much thought to the time/energy/boredom of processing the rolls by hand. Questions for those who have used both hand and Jobo processing for BW negative work: do you see any qualitative differences between Jobo processed film and that which you've done manually? Is the grain structure the same? How does the contrast compare? Any other comparison points would be welcome. -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Stan H Tinkers In Toronto
On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 11:05 PM, frank theriault wrote: Wasn't that just around the time that Stan ~dropped~ the 645? (ouch) Note to self: do not buy any 645s from Stan. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film scanners
On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 06:26 PM, Ryan Charron wrote: If you've got a medium format camera, you might as well go for a real medium format film scanner. You'll never be sorry you did. The scans must be awesome! (excuse me, I'm licking my lips and lusting here) Ryan, I had a Sprintscan 4000 and moved up to a Sprintscan 120, which, in addition to the ability to scan medium format, has better DMax. Wow. The difference between that and our old Agfa Duoscan T1200 is astonishing, even at the same resolution. Anyone who has medium format gear and who is thinking about investing in digital, I recommend spending your money on a good medium format neg scanner. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fujinon 400/4.5
I'm surprised no PDMLer--not even JCO--bid on the beautiful Fujinon EBC 400/4.5 in M42 that was sniped for $335 at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1349563526 . - EBC-multicoated - takes 49mm rear filters - 5 elements, 4 groups - 1990 g - close focus: 8 meters (reason enough, perhaps, to be glad you didn't get it) Not sure if it has the Auto switch. Other multicoated M42 Fujinon lenses included a 600/5.6 and a a 1000/8! Both take 49mm rear filters. Other M42 fast 400 bargains include the Piesker 400/4.5 (400/4?) and Enna Tele-Ennalyt 400/4.5. The latter was also available in K mount, but without aperture. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
Can't you just add more solution to the tank? IIRC, one generally runs a Jobo using less chemistry than when doing hand processing, about 1/2 the chemistry, right? If that's correct, couldn't you just fill the tank with more solution? I think that, to a degree, you're correct about developer, although there are enough differences between *certain* developers (IMO) that you'd not be able to match results, depending, of course, on what results you're trying to match. For example, I just can't see how Acufine will produce results similar to FG-7 g. William Robb wrote: Developer capacity. I haven't used X-Tol, but D-76 and its close cousin ID-11 are run very close to capacity at full strength in a Jobo if the tank is at its film capacity. Frankly, I went to HC:110 because of its flexibility WRT dilution, and I haven't tried many onther developers in the Jobo. ID-11 works fine at full strength, I haven't tried 1:1 because of capacity concerns. I have this possibly wrong belief that developer is developer is developer, and the results from any two different developers can be matched with some testing. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
Help Just received this offer from D... (In dealing for the delays) I know I'll have to deal with the hassle of UPS when the camera returns, which I will do as it was my error in using UPS, so I have a proposition. If you would like I have a Pentax P30T in excellent+ condition with either an SMC 1.7 lens that has minor mark on the filter ring (optics are fine) or a pristine SMC 2.0 lens. The camera is a much newer (and in my opinion) superior model - I will send that directly via USPS if you would like it. Otherwise I will deal with UPS and send the Program Plus out when I get it back... the offer is there, its up to you. Sorry about the hassle, D... Is the Program Plus a metal bodied camera, and P30T one of those plastic ones. Is this a good deal? (Pentax Program Plus was bought for $102) James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds On Sunday, May 5, 2002, at 02:34 PM, William D. Sawyer wrote: Does anyone have preferences regarding plastic or stainless tops for developing tanks? Other than cost, of course. Are the stainless ones superior? Do they get stuck more often? Do they wear better? Stainless are better in almost every way, except if you drop 'em, they're pretty much toast. I use plastic because of my fumble-fingers. Are you talking about reels or tanks? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb The plastic lids are not necessarily IR tight, so if you are processing IR film, leave the lights off until the film is in the fixer. Jobo tanks are IR tight. They claim it and I've tested it. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF: Pentax 67, 6x7 and 67II compatibility
Jan, My P67II manual clearly states: The Pentaprism Finder, Folding Focusing Hood or Rigid Magnifying Hood used for the 67 camera can also be attached to the 67II camera. The TTL Pentaprism Finder used for the 67 Camera cannot be used to the 67II camera. There are new versions of all the finders for 67II but the only older version that cannot be used on the new 67II is the TTL Pentaprism Finder. HTH, Bruce Monday, May 06, 2002, 7:42:29 AM, you wrote: JvW Hi, JvW I am still trying to find these answers in documentation too, JvW but PDML is still the best source :-) JvW Can the older viewfinders (non-TTL) for the 67 and 6x7 be used on the 67II ? JvW I'd like to know since I might be getting an older 6x7 or 67 and if I get additional JvW viewfinders with that, will they work on the 67II if I ever get one of those ? JvW As far as I could see, the lenses are compatible. Are there exceptions ? JvW Regards, JvW JvW -- JvW Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery JvW - JvW This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, JvW go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to JvW visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX noise redux (Was: Re: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night))
Hi, On 6 May 2002 at 11:14, Christian Skofteland wrote: I found a venue where the ka-chunk of the LX is an asset. I was a t the zoo with my daughter over the weekend photographing anything that I could. The tigers, Serval and small tree-shrew type animals would not look at me whilst I composed. So: Ka-Chunk! went the LX as I photographed their backs. Their heads would whip around to see what made the noise and Ka-Chunk! I'd get a nice portrait! The 67 should also work with a def leppard ... Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Alternative processes for dev and print.
Hi all, I'm currently reading more on different developing and printing techniques and just curious on where does one get actual chemicals to try these alternatives? Is this common in larger cities where you would just go to a photo shop and get this stuff? Can it be mail ordered? Thanks for any leads, Delano (wishing he had paid more attention in his HS Chemistry class) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
Hi Vic ... I understand the point you're trying to make, but for me using the computer, desaturated color film, and an ink jet printer just doesn't provide the results I'm looking for. Desaturated color film does not have the same tonality as BW negative film, and please, don't even suggest chromogenic BW. While it has its place, it's quite limited in the results it can deliver, and there are very few emulsion choices and but one speed of film. Apart from different results, there's the pleasure derived from working in a darkroom that I don't get from sitting in front of a computer screen. I don't believe that the costs between a wet darkroom and computer generated prints are that different, and suspect that a wet darkroom is less expensive, especially in the long run. Printing ink for BW work is quite spendy, and good quality paper is not cheap either. A printer that's capable of making high quality 11x14 prints is probably as expensive, or even more expensive, than an enlarger, which doesn't wear out and never becomes obsolete. Apart from chemicals and paper, and perhaps safelight filters, all darkroom purchases are one-time only affairs. Enlargers, lenses, trays, tanks, etc., are not consumables. They don't wear out or become obsolete as does computer gear. A forty year old enlarger works just as well today as it did when new. The environmental concerns may be similar, IMO, between computers and a chemical darkroom., although I believe that computers, overall, are more of an environmental disaster. But, IAC, it comes down to choosing your poison and how it effects you and the rest of the world. Old computers, monitors, and the like are a real disposal hazard, and the manufacture of chips and circuits can wreak environmental havoc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel: This is probably going off in a completely different direction than you wanted but I'm wondering why you, or anyone for that matter, would continue to process film and work in the darkroom when you have the option of doing it all with the computer. I recognize that there is a certain amount of enjoyment going into the darkroom and watching your film and pictures develop right there in front of you. But the health concerns, the time and, of course, the money involved in darkroom work makes a scanner, computer and printer such a tempting alternative. And if it's BW we're talking about. Shoot colour and convert it to BW, and your off and running. I would hesitate to invest any money in traditional BW techniques at this point... Just my opinion -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Alternative processes for dev and print.
What techniques are of interest? Delano Mireles wrote: Hi all, I'm currently reading more on different developing and printing techniques and just curious on where does one get actual chemicals to try these alternatives? Is this common in larger cities where you would just go to a photo shop and get this stuff? Can it be mail ordered? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF: Pentax 67, 6x7 and 67II compatibility
On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 10:42 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote: Can the older viewfinders (non-TTL) for the 67 and 6x7 be used on the 67II ? I'd like to know since I might be getting an older 6x7 or 67 and if I get additional viewfinders with that, will they work on the 67II if I ever get one of those ? The non-metering finders from the 6x7/67 are all compatible with the 67II. As far as I could see, the lenses are compatible. Are there exceptions ? Nope! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 07:46 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: With Studional do you get full film speed? Can you achieve subtle detail in the shadows, especially good differentiation between Zones 1,2, and 3? Full film speed, for most films I would say yes. Delta 100 seems a little slow in it, as does FP4 (which I quite dislike in it). Most everything else comes out fabulously. Shadow detail is quite good with most films, especially TMax 100 and 400, Delta 400, APX 100, Ilford Pan F 50, and all of the Fuji Neopans. Carefully collected notes! LOL Well, they're collected in yer head, ain't they? ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 11:26 AM, tom wrote: Jobo tanks are IR tight. They claim it and I've tested it. Dave Brooks can vouch for that: his IR was developed in a Jobo plastic tank. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 11:26 AM, tom wrote: Are you talking about reels or tanks? Aaron is not paying attention today and is talking about reels when the question is about tank lids. Coffee needed. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Alternative processes for dev and print.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Delano Mireles Hi all, I'm currently reading more on different developing and printing techniques and just curious on where does one get actual chemicals to try these alternatives? Is this common in larger cities where you would just go to a photo shop and get this stuff? Can it be mail ordered? http://www.photoformulary.com/ You also might want to do a google search in rec.photo.darkroom, as there are a couple of lesser known places that are cheaper. I just don't know what they are off the top of my head. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
It occurs to me that if you specified, Send by USPS, a Canadian seller unfamiliar with the abbreviation may easily have misread it as UPS. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Exhibition?!? -Too good to be true?
Gang, Has any of you received an offer to participate in an exhibition in Spain lately? I just received a generous offer from: Grupo Batik Art in Barcelona, but I don't know what to make of it. I could be just spam, but it's an original way of presenting it. There were two attachments to the mail, a CV for the exhibitor and the conditions for the exhibition. The text was in pretty poor english, but the CV and conditions were nice. Searches in Google and Yahoo! turns up references from a spanish newsgroup, but I can't read a word of Spanish... :-(Also, I found a pile of links to artists' webpages who have put up the exhibition in their own CVs. I will contact any of them that speak English or scandinavian languages, but maybe any of you have heard of them too? Thanks for any help, Jostein http://oksne.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
Vouched. Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:03:48 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question Regarding Developing Tanks On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 11:26 AM, tom wrote: Jobo tanks are IR tight. They claim it and I've tested it. Dave Brooks can vouch for that: his IR was developed in a Jobo plastic tank. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: LX noise redux (Was: Re: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night))
Same thing happened to me last week when I was photographing a cat, also from a distance (I know - it's not a tiger, but you can't have everyhting you want I guess). I don't have a LX, but a MX with a winder was noisy enough for the animal to perfectly pose for the second shot. Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fred Subject: LX noise redux (Was: Re: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night)) I found a venue where the ka-chunk of the LX is an asset. I was a t the zoo with my daughter over the weekend photographing anything that I could. The tigers, Serval and small tree-shrew type animals would not look at me whilst I composed. So: Ka-Chunk! went the LX as I photographed their backs. Their heads would whip around to see what made the noise and Ka-Chunk! I'd get a nice portrait! The tigers were outdoors and far away an yet they would still react to the sound! Amazing! Remind me not to go to India with the LX The zoo is one thing, out in the open with a tiger would not be time to draw attention to one's self. I still love the LX though! ;-) Christian On Monday 06 May 2002 10:52, Fred wrote: P.S. Peter, compared to my LX (ka-chunk, whirr), I *like* the hamster-sneeze shutter! Yeah. As much as I love my LX's, they're not really capable of ~any~ stealth mode operation - g. I just reactivated an old ME Super (equipped with the clever Short Soft Case ME, for my own hamster sneezes) as my dedicated church camera. Fred (still reservedly curious about AF bodies) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Alternative processes for dev and print.
Thanks, Tom. That's exactly what I'm looking for! D on 5/6/02 11:06 AM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Delano Mireles Hi all, I'm currently reading more on different developing and printing techniques and just curious on where does one get actual chemicals to try these alternatives? Is this common in larger cities where you would just go to a photo shop and get this stuff? Can it be mail ordered? http://www.photoformulary.com/ You also might want to do a google search in rec.photo.darkroom, as there are a couple of lesser known places that are cheaper. I just don't know what they are off the top of my head. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
The P30t (as I understand it) has a metal chassis and is plastic and rubber covered. It sets film speed via DX coding, there is no manual setting of film speed available. Non DX cartridges code in at ISO 100. The setting of shutter speeds is more traditional than the push buttons of a program plus. There is no exposure compensation available like a Program Plus, but it does have a memory lock button. It does not accept a motor or winder. Slow speeds go down to only one second. It's been a while since I picked up a Program Plus, but my Super Programs (concurrent model with the Program Plus) have a much brighter viewfinder than does the P30t. I think that the P30t is a likable enough camera, but I'm unsure if I would prefer it over a Program Plus. HTH William in Utah. James Adams wrote: Help Just received this offer from D... (In dealing for the delays) I know I'll have to deal with the hassle of UPS when the camera returns, which I will do as it was my error in using UPS, so I have a proposition. If you would like I have a Pentax P30T in excellent+ condition with either an SMC 1.7 lens that has minor mark on the filter ring (optics are fine) or a pristine SMC 2.0 lens. The camera is a much newer (and in my opinion) superior model - I will send that directly via USPS if you would like it. Otherwise I will deal with UPS and send the Program Plus out when I get it back... the offer is there, its up to you. Sorry about the hassle, D... Is the Program Plus a metal bodied camera, and P30T one of those plastic ones. Is this a good deal? (Pentax Program Plus was bought for $102) James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Exposure Lock on ME Super?
My sister has my ME S manual and I was wondering if the camera offers exposure lock. Probably not, but thought I'd ask anyway. Anyway, if it does, how is it activated. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT Need a module
I'm needing a Pentax dedicated module for my Sunpak 611. It came with a non-dedicated shoe, but I'd like a dedicated one. Anyone know of one out there? TIA -- Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA --- Get over it. Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
The P30t is plastic and rubber on the outside and metal on the inside. The grey paint on the top plate tends to wear on the edges. Functionally, the cameras are pretty similar. The Program Plus was a more expensive camera and it shows in a number of areas: better finish, better viewfinder less vibration, among others. One thing the P30t does have is AE lock (button marked ML). This is a very handy feature for AE cameras. Neither camera seems to sell for very much these days, but I think a PP is worth more. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: In a nutshell - Is Pentax ever going Digital SLR
Nitin Garg wrote: The best way to merge digital and film is to make *digital film* IMO. Dont know if its possible. Dont think anyone is doing it :) Yes, someone is (or perhaps, was). It's been vapor hardware for something like 4 years now, so no need to provide a web address. Last I recall, the resolution they were talking about was so low that the product wouldn't be viable anymore. My guess is they have the patent and are waiting for some camera company to buy them out for it. Unfortunately, they haven't realized that allowing consumers to reuse existing gear instead of buying new isn't in anybody's interest except the consumers, and they apparently don't have enough money to make the development happen. On Thu, May 02, 1996 at 07:01:40PM -0700, Jeremy Clegg wrote: I have been away, so I apologize if this topic has been beat to death. Can I be relatively confident that *at some point less than 5 years from now* Pentax will release a Digital SLR that can take all my nice Pentax lenses? As said by someone else, don't hold your breath -- the MZ-S itself took nearly 6 years of this-conference-that-event rumors before it was real. I don't know what took them so long to perfect on it, so it was probably some sort of delay for the proper market. Therefore, Pentax is probably waiting for the dust to settle on what the proper resolution and features should be and for the proper market before releasing their digital SLR. I doubt they have figured out that this combination of factors is unlikely to happen until the market is nearly saturated and sales begin to slow. Of course, I suppose it is possible that Pentax will release the DSLR sooner. later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
William Robb wrote: Hi; I have the opportunity to purchase the above named lens. One thing that bothers me is the lack of a tripod mount. If any owners of the lens would care to comment on the qualities of it, and whether the lack of a tripod socket is a fatal flaw, I would be interested in your responses. Thanks William Robb I had one of these until recently, but sold it and bought a Sigma 300/4 apo macro instead, partly to get a tripod mount. I used the lens with a monopod on a number of occasions, and using the camera tripod mount makes the camera lens very front-heavy and difficult to use, especially with a ball socket head, and even more so if using a teleconverter or extension tube. I eventually resorted to cobbling together a make-shift tripod mount for the lens, which while not particularly sturdy, did allow for easier use on a monopod. The optics were fine, except that very high contrast subjects would show the effects of slight chromatic aberration, giving magenta fringes around very bright objects (not usually a problem though). The Sigma lens appears to be much better corrected (but with significantly poorer lens coatings). The focusing on the Pentax is beautifully smooth and well damped, but quite slow due to the long travel; the Sigma is loose with a very short travel, but suprisingly easy to focus manually, with the added advantage of a much closer focus, although the internal focus effectively shortens the focal length even at quite modest distances - at 4m, the view is ~20% wider than the Pentax. Hope this helps, David Dixon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
William Johnson, after deliniating differences, wrote: I think that the P30t is a likable enough camera, but I'm unsure if I would prefer it over a Program Plus. I had a P30t for a (very) short while. I rapidly let it go on to someone else. Most frustrating was the non- overridable DX coding - I am a firm believer in +1/3rd stop for print films. The memory lock only holds for a few seconds, so exposure comp is far preferable, IMHO. Lack of winder attachment also was a negative. I'd go for the ProgramPlus between the two. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF: Pentax 67, 6x7 and 67II compatibility
Thanks Bruce, That is good to know. Now trying to find a reasonably priced 67 body and finder ... What I have seen sofar is between US $500 and 800 for a used 67 including the standard (non-TTL) prism ... Regards, JvW On Mon, 6 May 2002 08:28:39 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: There are new versions of all the finders for 67II but the only older version that cannot be used on the new 67II is the TTL Pentaprism Finder. -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My sister has my ME S manual and I was wondering if the camera offers exposure lock. Probably not, but thought I'd ask anyway. Anyway, if it does, how is it activated. Easy... remember the reading you want to lock, turn the dial to manual and set the shutter speed appropriately. Presto... instant exposure lock! ;) If you're asking about a seperate button, then no, it doesn't have anything like that. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Kerosene Safelight
Amazing! Imagine what darkroom work was like in the days when kerosene powered safelights were used. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom/klight.jpg -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
Just thought I'd point out: http://www.surplusshed.com/list.cfm?Category=Cameras Second from bottom, your very own minilab for $925. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax SMC 135/2.5K vs Vivitar Series One 135/2.3K: color
You might want to check the backs of the prints. Most minilabs print a series of numbers and/or letters that will tell what corrections, if any, were made. If both prints have the same numbers/ letters they were printed the same. It strikes me that if flare can lower contrast and mute colors then a lens with an inferior lens coating could produce images with less contrast and saturation compared to a lens with better coatings on its lenses. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Thanks, Chris ... Sounds like a good, quick workaround g. So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. Chris Brogden wrote: On Mon, 6 May 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: My sister has my ME S manual and I was wondering if the camera offers exposure lock. Probably not, but thought I'd ask anyway. Anyway, if it does, how is it activated. Easy... remember the reading you want to lock, turn the dial to manual and set the shutter speed appropriately. Presto... instant exposure lock! ;) If you're asking about a seperate button, then no, it doesn't have anything like that. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT; Photoshop seminar
Hi: Is anyone going to the Photoshop seminar at the Jacob Javits center in NYC tomorrow. If so, do you want to meet for coffee or lunch? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Thanks, Chris ... Sounds like a good, quick workaround g. So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. Hmmm... even the LX and Super Program don't offer exposure lock. You'll have to go to the P-series bodies to find both at once. The P30 (P3 in U.S.) would work, as would the P50 (P5) and P30N (same as P30, but with cosmetic changes). These cameras still allow for manual film advance and rewind, but I much prefer the feel and handling of earlier models. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Rear lens caps
Hi All Over the years I have purchased lenses with KA or KAF mount without rear caps. Ebay sellers does not seem to know the what a KA or KAF mount rear cap is. I prefere caps that protect the contacts and the AF shaft as well as the rear lens/inside of the barrel. Do any of you know where to buy caps with a collar (KA/KAF-mount) Best Regards, Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Shel, Pentax K2 DMD, but good luck finding one. When in the automatic mode (aperture priority), the mirror lock-up also activates the exposure memory hold (push the knob up). But you can move the knob down to activate the memory hold function without the mirror lock-up. Regards, Tim Engel - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? (Snip)... So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerosene Safelight
Probably did little C-41 work toog Dave Begin Original Message From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:41:16 -0400 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kerosene Safelight Amazing! Imagine what darkroom work was like in the days when kerosene powered safelights were used. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom/klight.jpg -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Hi Shel, The Pentax MX is totally manual, no aperture priority. The exposure is always locked, but it may not be what you want ;-). I've always wondered which is the most often used by photographer and if he/she can pick only one what would it be: AE lock or exposure compensation. Well, at least the AF bodies seem to have both ;-). Ron B[ee] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? Thanks, Chris ... Sounds like a good, quick workaround g. So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax K 300mm f/4
Hello William I'm not sure what the optical differences are, but I have The M* 4.0/300mm. It is an excellent lens and doesn't really need a tripod mount. It's quite small/compact (I guess that's what the M* stands for) for a 300mm lens. It's perfectly usable for hand held shooting with fast film/or in bright light. An old fashioned Pentax camera is supposed to be strong enough (metal bayonet) to hold the lens, while the camera is on a tripod. However I believe that some companies offer a tripod mount ring put on the lens, if you want one. Others might know more about this, but I think I remember seeing one in a magasine... Best Regards, Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bellows Question...
Bruce wrote: - Also, the bellows can handle mounting a lens reversed for further magnification. In that case, you do have to stop the lens down - the double cable release doesn't help much. -- I don't think that is quite correct. I have the A-bellows unit and I can confirm that the double cable release works when the lens is mounted reversed. The entire front part of the unit including the cable release connection can be reversely mounted. IMO this is a big advantage of the A-bellows. I ~think~ this is not possible with the K-bellows unit where a reverse adaptor is needed for mounting the lens reversed. I don't know the M-bellows but I ~think~ it works similar to the A-bellows unit. Alexander Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: Rear lens caps
You can buy lens caps from Pentax, along with many other things. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Hi Shell and all Pentax P30 (P3) and Pentax P50 (P5) both have exposure lock (button on the left side of the penta prism housing) as well as aperture priority auto exposure! I own both cameras. Want to buy my P30? Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af Tim Engel Sendt: 6. maj 2002 20:15 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? Shel, Pentax K2 DMD, but good luck finding one. When in the automatic mode (aperture priority), the mirror lock-up also activates the exposure memory hold (push the knob up). But you can move the knob down to activate the memory hold function without the mirror lock-up. Regards, Tim Engel - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? (Snip)... So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Spotmatic F, mint in box
I know ebay hints are not very popular here. But there's a boxed mint Spotmatic F on ebay right now!!! Best Regards, Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Got One! (Was: Held an MZ-S Last Night)
Fred, the auto-rewind can be switched on or off, as a Pentax Function. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Or get the undervalued ricoh bodies and get both :) On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:25:19AM -0700, Ron Bhanukitsiri wrote: Hi Shel, The Pentax MX is totally manual, no aperture priority. The exposure is always locked, but it may not be what you want ;-). I've always wondered which is the most often used by photographer and if he/she can pick only one what would it be: AE lock or exposure compensation. Well, at least the AF bodies seem to have both ;-). Ron B[ee] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super? Thanks, Chris ... Sounds like a good, quick workaround g. So, if I wanted to use a manual focus camera, which Pentax has aperture priority and exposure lock ... besides the MX smile. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
Thanks Nitin, Before I bought the ME's and ME Super, I bought a Ricoh KR-10 and subsequently a Winder, and I love it. What Ricoh 'Program' models would you recommend, and why? James BTW Just received two items via USPS, 1. Salyut-S for $160{Air Parcel[10 days]) Customs opened it because no customs label was attached. I was lucky, it was assessed as $50CDN for customs purposes, and charged $7.25 GST/PST + postal handling fee $7.00). 2. Vivitar 70-150mm f3.8 Zoom (Identical to my Hoya Pentax Screw) for $20(USPS Air insured [Posted Thursday]). There was a combined handling charge + GST/PST that came to $21.75 CDN. No customs duty. That might explain how I, and most others in Canada prefer US Postal Service, to UPS (They tried to skin me for the Prog Plus for $130 CDN in charges today). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerosene Safelight
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Kerosene Safelight Amazing! Imagine what darkroom work was like in the days when kerosene powered safelights were used. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom/klight.jpg Imagine what exposure times were like when using kerosene powered enlargers. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest It occurs to me that if you specified, Send by USPS, a Canadian seller unfamiliar with the abbreviation may easily have misread it as UPS. UPS is only a problem when shipping into Canada. If the shipping is within Canada, UPS is fine, though no better than the post office. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Question Regarding Developing Tanks
- Original Message - From: tom Subject: RE: Question Regarding Developing Tanks The plastic lids are not necessarily IR tight, so if you are processing IR film, leave the lights off until the film is in the fixer. Jobo tanks are IR tight. They claim it and I've tested it. As have I, and found them to be IR proof as well. However, the plasic lids on SS tanks may or may not be. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rear lens caps
Contact Rob Studdert. I believe he still has a few for sale. Jens Bladt wrote: Hi All Over the years I have purchased lenses with KA or KAF mount without rear caps. Ebay sellers does not seem to know the what a KA or KAF mount rear cap is. I prefere caps that protect the contacts and the AF shaft as well as the rear lens/inside of the barrel. Do any of you know where to buy caps with a collar (KA/KAF-mount) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
May pug
Thanks for the kudos! Re yours - you are kicking yourself too hard on that one... although the played around with version that another pug-ite did was very nice. The crossing lines just convey a different message with and without the red and white stripe. God, the way you were going on about it, girl, I thought it was going to be some muddy underexposed mess :) You do _not_ need to return to sports photography 101. The look on the kids face is great. best, ann - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Running Film Through The Spin Cycle Can't you just add more solution to the tank? IIRC, one generally runs a Jobo using less chemistry than when doing hand processing, about 1/2 the chemistry, right? If that's correct, couldn't you just fill the tank with more solution? Unfortunately, not really. The tank rests on its side in the processor, and exceesive overfilling just pours out the drain tube. I think chemistry volume is closer to 1/3, but will vary depending on how much film is in the tank. One could certainly process a single roll of film in 600ml of chemistry if desired. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerosene Safelight
Perfect for dodging and burning. BTW, did I tell you I have a kerosene powered TV? Takes forever to warm up, but when it does, the picture has a beautiful, transcendent glow to it, like the much ballyhooed Leica and Hasselblad glass LMAO William Robb wrote: Imagine what exposure times were like when using kerosene powered enlargers. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 31
Aaron wrote: Did we gain a 6x7 vote? My Brotherhoodical memory is acting up today. You're on target - though I haven't (I don't think) voted in the survey - methinks you're picking up etherial transmission of my virtual vote. !8^DBill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
I don't think I'd be interested in those cameras ... they're a little to avante gard in the styling department. Chris Brogden wrote: Hmmm... even the LX and Super Program don't offer exposure lock. You'll have to go to the P-series bodies to find both at once. The P30 (P3 in U.S.) would work, as would the P50 (P5) and P30N (same as P30, but with cosmetic changes). These cameras still allow for manual film advance and rewind, but I much prefer the feel and handling of earlier models. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anyone interested in getting the Prntax poster?
Hi everybody, We (the AOHC board) still have to decide if we want to give away the posters to everybody for free (just charging for postage) or selling them outside AOHC. I believe at the end we'll charge something, just for funding AOHC and for making some difference between AOHC members (which will get it for free) and others. In that case, I'm wishing to apply a reduced cost for PDML'ers (well below $10 for sure) compared to other 'unknown' people. I believe we could arrange to ship a batch to USA (and maybe one to Canada, one to UK, and so on according to interest raised in the different countries) and maybe distributing them around $10 (hopefully even less) including postage and mailing tube. I'll keep you informed. In the mean time I'm collecting 'booking' messages (10 so far) to get an idea of the batch I'll have to print and then ship. Please write to me, not to PDML, so that we won't add unnecessary noise to the list. Dario Bonazza http://digilander.iol.it/pentaxday/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?
The 2 that I have experience with are xr-p and xr-m. Paul has used xr-p too and has given it favourable review here. He found it to have a less vibration compared to his Super A (wrong model?). Our comparitive points about the 2 are: + Bright viewfinder and 0.88x mag for xr-p (.80 for M) . Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder if needed). - ISO overide in xr-m only by taping over the DX contacts or setting exp. comp + exposure comp is in 1/3rd steps. . xr-p has aperture relay port. xr-m doesnt. + DOF in xr-m. not available in xr-p. + spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but thats +usually better done yourself. . xr-m takes 4 AA batteries. Which is good because I sort of carry a spare set in the flash and they last longer. I drained the battery on my xr-10 too quickly becuase i took several long exposure shots. On the -ve side AA battery grip on the side also makes it a little oddball to grip for me. Its nice when holding normally but when taking vertical shots, i have found it better to keep the battery side (which is also the shutter release side) below or the camera is less stable in my hands due to the top being heavier. The fact that i have found the xr-m's shutter button a little stiff doesnt help either. xr-10 (non-prog) is great this way. metering is activated by a longish button that falls under your right hand fingers and shutter release is sensitive and quick. . xr-p takes standard threaded cable release. you need a wireless or wired plug-in (2.5mm jack?) type thingie for xr-m. I havent had experience with the other program models (kr-30sp, 20sp, xr-3xpf etc) but have read favorable reviews about them. The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not easy. One could try to make their pentax-a lenses into AP lenses :) or use 3rd party ones. I have been able to (tho i must say i was lucky) to get the 50/1.4, 28/2.8, 28-100/4, 70-210/3.9,70-300/4.5-5.6 P lenses. Vivitar 19/3.8 also works in program mode. If the trend continues, soon I will not qualify to submit anything to PUG :) On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:22:12PM -0700, James Adams wrote: Thanks Nitin, Before I bought the ME's and ME Super, I bought a Ricoh KR-10 and subsequently a Winder, and I love it. What Ricoh 'Program' models would you recommend, and why? James BTW Just received two items via USPS, 1. Salyut-S for $160{Air Parcel[10 days]) Customs opened it because no customs label was attached. I was lucky, it was assessed as $50CDN for customs purposes, and charged $7.25 GST/PST + postal handling fee $7.00). 2. Vivitar 70-150mm f3.8 Zoom (Identical to my Hoya Pentax Screw) for $20(USPS Air insured [Posted Thursday]). There was a combined handling charge + GST/PST that came to $21.75 CDN. No customs duty. That might explain how I, and most others in Canada prefer US Postal Service, to UPS (They tried to skin me for the Prog Plus for $130 CDN in charges today). - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest
The Sender is in New England. James - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Program Plus - Latest It occurs to me that if you specified, Send by USPS, a Canadian seller unfamiliar with the abbreviation may easily have misread it as UPS. UPS is only a problem when shipping into Canada. If the shipping is within Canada, UPS is fine, though no better than the post office. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Slight OT:My IR report
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds As far as Konica goes maybe Aaron can answer that. I believe that the Konica 750nm stuff is gone. I have a few rolls still in my freezer, but they're mine. -Aaron Darn! I should've got into that sooner. I already went into the store with a plan of buying about 5 to 10 rolls of it because it was said to problematic to get it. And now it's gone for good. I really hoped for some lower price than Kodak's stuff which is somehow expensive. They ask 10 bucks for a 135/36 roll. And in the wholesale shop they've told me that they would have to order it especially for me so I should go for at least 20 rolls pack. Almost felt of the chair when I multiplied everything... Well, tough world. Lucky there is a pro lab that claimed on the phone they have it at about the same price and I can get one roll at the time. Ilford SFX 200 in a 135 rolls seems to sit almost in every fridge, but I want something really strong. Maciej - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kerosene Safelight
On Monday, May 6, 2002, at 01:43 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Perfect for dodging and burning. BTW, did I tell you I have a kerosene powered TV? Takes forever to warm up, but when it does, the picture has a beautiful, transcendent glow to it, like the much ballyhooed Leica and Hasselblad glass LMAO That would be perfect for viewing my ancient CED videodiscs on! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey, Aaron (and other TO folks)
On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 09:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: Except for Aaron, everyone seems to like May 11. I think I might be able to at least show up for some of it, though we are in the final stages of wedding planning, so much of my weekend time is consumed with flower and cake choices. The 24th is way off-limits, as it is likely gonna be my geek bachelor party. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Kerosene Safelight
No sh@#!!!?? Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kerosene Safelight Perfect for dodging and burning. BTW, did I tell you I have a kerosene powered TV? Takes forever to warm up, but when it does, the picture has a beautiful, transcendent glow to it, like the much ballyhooed Leica and Hasselblad glass LMAO William Robb wrote: Imagine what exposure times were like when using kerosene powered enlargers. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Telescopes instead of super telephotos? (WAS: Pentax-A* 1200/8 ED IF)
George wrote: That must be very irrational, because pentax has more interresting telescopes in that focal range. And these have the additional advantage, that they can be used for medium format ! How are these telescopes for ordinary photography? Do they compare in quality and price? Pål Unfortunately for most list readers, its all german. for a test : http://www.astrostudio.at/pentaxtest.htm for price, they are not cheap, and have one disadvantage for daytime use, no aperture mechanism. http://www.astrostudio.at/125sdp.htm http://www.telescopes-by-pentax-gmbh.com/DE/download/Pentaxpreisliste.pdf more info starting at their homepage http://www.telescopes-by-pentax-gmbh.com/DE/homepage/index.html Personally, I think they are a bit too expensive for me, but so are the SMC PENTAX-A 1200/8 etc. George - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: May PUG - my comments
Thanks for the kind words, Wendy. It is a bw print. Sometimes, however, when scanning a bw print, I forget, and scan it in colour. For some reason, some bits of colour show up on small diagonal lines in the scan. I know that's not a very technical description, but maybe that's what happened? I don't know. I thought I scanned this one in bw, but maybe not. My moniter's starting to go kaput, (no red), so maybe I can't see the colours you refer to. Or maybe it is your moniter, I don't know... Referring back to your earlier post about how dis-satisfied you were with your scan, let me tell you that I spent at least an hour trying to get this one right, and never did. It's too dark. But, whenever I lightened it, it was too bright, so I had to put up with a too dark scan. The print is much nicer looking than the scan, but I was so frustrated, I thought, I've invested so much time in this, it's going in, no matter what! FWIW, I really liked yours. The pensive look of concentration on the boy's face is priceless, although I did, I must admit, prefer the crop that another list-member did for you (sorry, I forget who). You certainly had the seed of a wonderful shot, though. I hope you continue to submit to PUG. It's a great way to get feedback from peers and learn from them - although looking at some of my submissions, I guess I should practice what I preach! vbg Thanks again, frank wendy beard wrote: Flatiron in the Fog - Frank Theriault Looks like a postcard out of the 1920s. Hard to believe this is Toronto, 2002 Just one thing puzzles me - this is black and white film, but I can see colour in the image - or is it my monitor? -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax K 300mm f/4
The Pentax 200/4 Macro collar will fit the 300/4.5 FA. I don't know how easily one could obtain it, or what it would cost I bought one recently from Pentax Canada and it costed CAD121. But then it's so unpopular that they didn't even know they had one. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Stan H Tinkers In Toronto
Ooo, crap. Didn't even think of that one! Sorry, Stan. Hope you never have to sell that one. OTOH, Aaron, you're welcome for the warning! vbg Aaron Reynolds wrote: Note to self: do not buy any 645s from Stan. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rear lens caps
Over the years I have purchased lenses with KA or KAF mount without rear caps. Ebay sellers does not seem to know the what a KA or KAF mount rear cap is. I prefere caps that protect the contacts and the AF shaft as well as the rear lens/inside of the barrel. Do any of you know where to buy caps with a collar (KA/KAF-mount) Both front and rear Pentax caps are available as accessories from Pentax. Local dealers might not stock them, but they are available. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Which Ricoh Program body? (was: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)
I'll reply in all caps, point by point: Nitin Garg wrote: The 2 that I have experience with are xr-p and xr-m. Paul has used xr-p too and has given it favourable review here. ACTUALLY, I BROKE IT BEFORE I COULD USE IT. I STILL HAVEN'T FIRED A SHOT WITH A RICOH, SO MY OPINIONS ARE BASED ON SPECS, FEEL, REVIEWS, AND ONLINE COMMENTS I'VE SEEN. He found it to have a less vibration compared to his Super A (wrong model?). UNQUESTIONABLY. AND LESS THAN THE XR-2S. Our comparitive points about the 2 are: + Bright viewfinder and 0.88x mag for xr-p (.80 for M). THE BRIGHT FINDER WAS INTRODUCED ON THE XR-P (AND XR-10 AND 7, MAYBE) AND CONTINUED ON THE SUBSEQUENT PROGRAM MODELS: XR-X (XR-M IN USA), XR-3000 (A BUDGET MODEL), AND XRX-3P (THE FINAL HIGH-END MODEL). BUT THE XR-P WAS THE LAST TO USE THE 0.88X MAGNIFICATION; AFTER THAT, ALL USED, I THINK, 0.82X. Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder if needed). YEP. YOU CAN THUS SEE THE WIND LEVER MOVING, FOR REASSURANCE. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A BATTERY-LADEN MOTOR, FOR HEFT, OR SIMPLY USE THE FEATHERWEIGHT GRIP, WITH ITS EXCELLENT AUXIILIARY SHUTTER RELEASE. spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but thats usually better done yourself. THESE AND OTHER XR-M/XR-X FEATURES ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE XR-M'S REPLACEMENT, THE XRX-3P. ALSO, THESE TWO MODELS, UNLIKE THE XR-P, SHOW YOU THE SHUTTER SPEED ON A TOP-PANEL LCD. BUT AMONG RICOH PROGRAM BODIES, ONLY THE XR-P SHOWS YOU THE APERTURE IN A WINDOW IN THE VIEWFINDER. The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not easy. TRUE, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT. THE 50/2 IS A FINE LENS AND WIDELY AVAILABLE IN P, THOUGH IT WAS NEVER MULTICOATED. THE P 50/1.4 IS SCARCER THAN A PENTAX 50/1.2; I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE IN THREE MONTHS OF LOOKING. One could try to make their pentax-a lenses into AP lenses :) or use 3rd party ones. YES, MANY THIRD-PARTY LENSES, ESPECIALLY VIVITAR'S, INCLUDE PROGRAM CONTACTS FOR PENTAX AND RICOH. If the trend continues, soon I will not qualify to submit anything to PUG :) FEWER THAN HALF OF MY LENSES ARE NOW PENTAX, AND SOON THAT NUMBER WILL BE A THIRD. MIXING AND MATCHING IS ALL PART OF THE K-MOUNT ADVANTAGE. CONCLUSION: ALL PROGRAM RICOHS OFFER TTL FLASH AND EASY VERTICAL SHOOTING. IF YOU LIKE THE CLASSIC CAMERA FEEL AND OPERATION OR MUST HAVE THE APERTURE WINDOW, GET THE XR-P. IF YOU PREFER MODERN AMENITIES, SKIP THE XR-M/XR-X AND GO FOR AN XR-X 3P. IT ADDS A 1/3000 SECOND SHUTTER AND A BUILT-IN FLASH WITH 28MM COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT (EASY) TTL FLASH FILL. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey, Aaron (and other TO folks)
Hi, Aaron, Geez, I learned to stay out of the way for that stuff! Sample conversation: Frank, what flowers do you like? Hmmm, I like the pretty blue ones. No, I think we'll go with something else. Okay Frank, what should we do for a wedding cake? I like chocolate. For a wedding cake? Silly, we'll have the white-cake with the champagne glasses between the layers. Okay. After that, she stopped asking. Seriously, I know you're busy, but hope to see you for a bit, if you can afford the time. 1:00 at C'Est What, this Saturday is what was suggested, and I haven't heard any nay-sayers. Hey, if no one else shows, I'll just have to drink alone! Hey baby, wanna see my new Sigma Zoom? ;-) regards, frank Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 09:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: Except for Aaron, everyone seems to like May 11. I think I might be able to at least show up for some of it, though we are in the final stages of wedding planning, so much of my weekend time is consumed with flower and cake choices. The 24th is way off-limits, as it is likely gonna be my geek bachelor party. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: Rear lens caps
You can buy lens caps from Pentax, along with many other things. Ha! PentaxUSA once charged me $10.00 for a ZX remote control cover. (Well, the camera was new and I was trying to keep it intact.) Then (as a joke?) they mailed it in an enormous box. Try KEH. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey, Aaron (and other TO folks)
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Hey, Aaron (and other TO folks) On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 09:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: Except for Aaron, everyone seems to like May 11. I think I might be able to at least show up for some of it, though we are in the final stages of wedding planning, so much of my weekend time is consumed with flower and cake choices. I have an idea. Why don't we all go cake tasting. The 24th is way off-limits, as it is likely gonna be my geek bachelor party. Are we invited to take some compromising shots? -Aaron Jeff. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Ricoh Program body? (was: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:13:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll reply in all caps, point by point: Nitin Garg wrote: Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder if needed). YEP. YOU CAN THUS SEE THE WIND LEVER MOVING, FOR REASSURANCE. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A BATTERY-LADEN MOTOR, FOR HEFT, OR SIMPLY USE THE FEATHERWEIGHT GRIP, WITH ITS EXCELLENT AUXIILIARY SHUTTER RELEASE. that is true :) At times i do wish the xr-m weighed like the xr-p :) spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but thats usually better done yourself. THESE AND OTHER XR-M/XR-X FEATURES ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE XR-M'S REPLACEMENT, THE XRX-3P. ALSO, THESE TWO MODELS, UNLIKE THE XR-P, SHOW YOU THE SHUTTER SPEED ON A TOP-PANEL LCD. xr-x3p is a little more harder to obtain than xr-m and is not as cheap. Which is why i dont have it :) The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not easy. TRUE, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT. THE 50/2 IS A FINE LENS AND WIDELY AVAILABLE IN P, THOUGH IT WAS NEVER MULTICOATED. THE P 50/1.4 IS SCARCER THAN A PENTAX 50/1.2; I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE IN THREE MONTHS OF LOOKING. You didnt look well enough :) I got mine less than 3 months ago. Pentax 50/1.2 doesnt seem scarce. KEH has 3 of them listed. CONCLUSION: ALL PROGRAM RICOHS OFFER TTL FLASH AND EASY VERTICAL SHOOTING. IF YOU LIKE THE CLASSIC CAMERA FEEL AND OPERATION OR MUST HAVE THE APERTURE WINDOW, GET THE XR-P. IF YOU PREFER MODERN AMENITIES, SKIP THE XR-M/XR-X AND GO FOR AN XR-X 3P. IT ADDS A 1/3000 SECOND SHUTTER AND A BUILT-IN FLASH WITH 28MM COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT (EASY) TTL FLASH FILL. Theres one on ebay right now heheh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .