RE: Pentax DSLR: Pentax User Mag UK Prices
From DPReview (Nothing new except confirmation of a rather wide possible price range!): An article appears in Pentax User Magazine Issue 1 2003 received this morning headed Pentax digital SLR confirmed. According to the article Pentax is preparing to launch a digital SLR body for between GB£1300-2000. with the adoption of an APS size sensor. The camera will be announced at PMA in Las Vegas this spring.
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
My reply was to the 'garbage in garbage out' remark - nothing else. Sorry if I've drifted away from the topic. Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA On 8 Jan 2003 at 17:24, Dr E D F Williams wrote: It does not matter how noisy a signal is, if the information is there it can be retrieved. In Electron Microscopy the images are often terribly noisy. For ordered structures Fourier transforms, rotational symmetry, or a combination of methods is useful. I have programs to do things like that and if I can find a decent electron micrograph of a virus I'll try to prepare some images that illustrate the cleaning of an image. Image processing can be done in real time on an optical bench, but its more difficult. Ah, yes but this type of processing is designed to to enhance visibility, however it doesn't necessarily preserve fidelity. Your example would be similar to applying a broad band audio signal to a narrow band pass filter in order that a voice signal be rendered more audible with a loss of all out of band information. This is not what we are talking about WRT high performance optical sensor performance limitations and post processing. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
If you think Altoids are unpalatable you should try some of the ammoniac lozenges some Finns suck. Absolutely not fit for human consumption - called Salmiakki, or something like that. Raimo will tell us. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR In a message dated 1/8/2003 4:43:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raimo Korhonen [asks]: OK - but what the $£§ are Altoids - do I have to get some? They're simply Curiously Refreshing® I think originally British, they're strong mints that come in a small, rectangular tin with a cover. keith whaley Also the empty tins make good containers for paperclips, pushpins, and things like that. They are probably sold in the US at 7-11. Was at friends house the other day, and he eats those things. Tin is about 3-1/4 inches long, 2 inches wide, and 3/4 of an inch deep. (I can't think in meters.) So that is a very tiny camera. HTH, Doe aka Marnie
Re: Layers in Photoshop
Not for me! Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Layers in Photoshop Hi Don; The NAPP sells some wonderful Photoshop training videos including one on layer techniques. They are reasonably priced (3 for $100, $39.99 ea)you can order them at; www.photoshopuser.com BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Fun in OKC
The 'Micro Fibre' cloth is made and patented by 3M. Called 'Scotch Brite' in its original packaging. The grade of Scotch Brite used to abrade and scour metal objects is made in the same factory. One cleans glass - the other removes metal and everything else as well. Its the only material, besides Ross Optical lens tissue, I'd use on my precious lenses. But even then only in case of dire need. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:50 AM Subject: Re: Fun in OKC Got myself a Pentax microfiber cloth for lens cleaning. [snip] It's not as fluffy as others, but still does the job. Ah, that's Pentax for ya...;-) Fred
Re: Layers in Photoshop
Thanks. I'll try this right away. I have already had a go with PSP 7.0 but must have made some mistakes along the way - after promoting to a layer. The fact that the layer could be moved put me right off. I thought I'd made a basic mistake. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Layers in Photoshop Don, Did anyone ever answer your question? Not aware that they did. clipped
Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report
Yes Don, that's wonderful, and your point is not lost on conservation people like me. Of course technology can be of significant help. But it probably helps more if we take major steps to ensure that significant or irreplaceable items of local or international cultural value are protected from such mundane threats as floods or mud's. Cheers Shaun Dr E D F Williams wrote: In 1966 Florence was hit by the devastating 'Arno' flood. Ancient books in 30 libraries suffered terrible damage. Centuries old books were soaked and covered with silt and mud. The sight of the shelves in the Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di Firenze was heart breaking. No one would have believed anything could be saved. However, hundreds of students and volunteers were enlisted and many books were removed from the shelves and dried. Others just dried in the stacks. Velum bound volumes, paper and parchment documents that looked like they were ready to be carted to the dump were later restored by washing in warm water and by other very simple methods. In many cases there was more dried mud than paper. Photographs and books or manuscripts, never mind how wet and crumpled they may be, if dried immediately before they begin to decay, can later be cleaned and restored. This later cleaning is quite easy. Books damaged in the Arno flood were examined by scanning electron microscopy after restoration. The micrographs showed traces of mud invisible to the naked eye. I have pictures of the stacks and damage. If anyone is interested please contact me off list. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:50 PM Subject: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report That night I kept having nightmares about having to wade through floodwater downstairs! First light i looked out and breathed a sigh of relief to see no appreciable rise. The stake confirmed it. My mother's house in Cambridge (MA) flooded so badly a couple of years ago that it came within a foot of the first-floor joists. He washing machine was _floating_ and bumping against the basement ceiling! They lost a lot of stuff, including some family heirlooms and old photographs. Heat is the weather phenomenon most dangerous to humans, statistically, but I'll bet flooding is the chief danger to the survival of historical artifacts on paper, such as photographs. --Mike . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I have just joined the list
Welcome, from cold, snow-covered northeast Ohio, Marcel. Kathy L. - Original Message -
Re: Bongs
Yes, Major Richard I. Bong, top American ace of World War Two, shot down 40 Japanese planes in the Pacific - with a Lockheed P-38 Lightning, no less. All the best! Raimo K Mark, Speaking of Bong, there's a place on the road to Chicago called the Bong Recreation Area, named after a WWII flying ace or some such. I was at a gas station off the interstate over Christmas, when this young kid comes in with this big smile on his face. He asks the clerk, what and where is the 'Bong Recreation Area'? I've _got_ to get a picture of this for my friends!! The clerk gave him directions and off he went... g --Mike
Not true fusion, Konica acquires Minolta!
According to Financial Times, it's not exactly fusion, and Konica will be the survivor: http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStoryc =StoryFTcid=1039524244022p=1012571727108 Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Optio S specifications
Published in both my websites: Pentax Club: www.aohc.it Digital photography news: www.fotone.it Direct link to specs page: http://www.fotone.it/pentax/prpen301e.htm Okay, okay, I'm way too late, but has everybody seen the full specs table? Isn't it interesting that Casio EX-Z3 features a wider LCD than Pentax Opto S? Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Test Shot with Tamron 80-200 F2.8 SP LD
A 0.5 diopter CU lens will cut the minimum focus in 1/2. I use one on my Tokina ATX 80-200/2.8. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Test Shot with Tamron 80-200 F2.8 SP LD Backyard Test Shot with Tamron 80-200 F2.8 SP LD: http://jcoconnell.com/temp/07s.jpg Tmax 100, 1/250 @ F8. F.L. around 135mm. I guess I'm going to keep this lens after all. I could easily retire 5 primes with this one. Only drawbacks are it's size/weight only focuses to 5 feet which is really good at 200mm but not that great at 80mm. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
RE: Optio S specifications
Yeah and a docking cradle (I don't think the Optio has that?). The casio looks better on the surface at the moment... -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza 2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 January 2003 11:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Optio S specifications Published in both my websites: Pentax Club: www.aohc.it Digital photography news: www.fotone.it Direct link to specs page: http://www.fotone.it/pentax/prpen301e.htm Okay, okay, I'm way too late, but has everybody seen the full specs table? Isn't it interesting that Casio EX-Z3 features a wider LCD than Pentax Opto S? Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Not true fusion, Konica acquires Minolta!
Hmmm... Extracts! The merger will create a company with a combined market capitalisation of just over ¥450bn. It would be able to compete more effectively in the core office equipment market and strengthen its position in the fast-growing optical devices sector, the two companies said. Konica could be hurt by assuming Minolta's hefty debt of ¥219bn, giving the combined group debts of ¥400bn. Woa debt = 89% of capitolisation - SELL SELL SELL Bob - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Not true fusion, Konica acquires Minolta! According to Financial Times, it's not exactly fusion, and Konica will be the survivor: http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStoryc =StoryFTcid=1039524244022p=1012571727108 Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Layers in Photoshop
It's much easier in PhotoShop. No cutting, copying, or pasting. You can get complete instructions in the PhotoShop tutorial. Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Did anyone ever answer your question? Not aware that they did. Well, I don't know PhotoShop at all. But I do know PaintShop Pro (one of the marvels, btw, of the computer age -- sure, there are higher ends painting programs but it does everything I need a computer drawing/painting program to do), and they can't be too different when it comes to using layers. 1. Layers are very complicated, but one of the best ways to work when doing computer drawing/painting. So there is a high learning curve for doing anything extensive with layers. For instance, because drawing/painting is very complicated in real life (think of all that hand eye coordination and of the different mediums one can use -- pencils, charcoal, paint, and think of all the different styles one can have), PaintShop Pro is a complicated program because it has to be to cover all the options of drawing/painting. So it has the highest learning curve of any program I have ever used (and I am still learning). 2. For what you want though, the basics of layers should be fairly easy. 3. So I will tell you how I would do it in PaintShop Pro. a.) Make two images the same size and the same alignment in each window. b.) Click on one image and promote it to a layer. There should be a layer menu selection somewhere on one of the tool bars that has this option or something similar. c.) Copy the whole image. Copy/cut/paste should be on the edit menu on a tool bar. d.) Paste on the other image. You now have two layers with two images, one superimposed on top of the other. But only the top image will show because they are both opaque. e.) In the layer menu selection should be a way to switch between the two layers (usually it will show a list of layers, click on one layer in the list or the other). f.) Switching between the two, set the opacity for both images to 50% (layer menu). Now you have an image combined of both layers. g.) If you want an offset between the images, move around the top image/layer. Otherwise don't touch it. Because after you copied and pasted it, it was probably aligned correctly. h.) Merge the layers (again, layer menu). The top layer is considered to be floating until the layers are merged which is why it can be moved around. All done. Now that's the way it works in PaintShop Pro, but PhotoShop can't be that different. Or maybe it is, I really don't know. HTH, Doe aka Marnie
Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
At 12:33 9.1.2003 +0200, you wrote: If you think Altoids are unpalatable you should try some of the ammoniac lozenges some Finns suck. Absolutely not fit for human consumption - called Salmiakki, or something like that. Raimo will tell us. Don Don Williams Salmiakki is not pure ammoniac.. actually it is ammonium chloride. It is actually really fantastic :-) And not just some Finns.. almost all of us just love it ! When you mix it with Koskenkorva Vodka you get a really nice drink called salmiakkikossu. Some call salmiakki salted liquorice but I don't think this really describes it... Have you tried the Sisu (=perseverance or grit or guts) ? It contains tar extracts and it world famous ;-) Makes us strong ! Those plus the Sauna.. what else can one wish for... except maybe a nice multimegapixel full frame Pentax DSLR... !? A Strong Finn, Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: dumb digital question
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ONCE AGAIN there is nothing wrong with USB on my system, which I custom built myself, I simply commented in a previous post that PS5.5 doesn't work with USB. And I get people telling me I don't know how to set up my computer. GEEZE! PS: that is PS5.5 Educational Version. Ciao, Graywolf Photoshop doesn't know anything about how a printer is connected except on an old Mac with an old version of MacOS. Epson has different drivers for USB support and that is more likely to be the problem. Herb
anyopne used the sigma 15-30mm lens
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] i have read mixed reviews on this lens both ob the net and in magazines this would solve my wide angle p[roblem and give me a 22-45mm on a pentax digital any in the group used the lens and how has it worked for you i have one and use it periodically, mostly at its wide end. it's a reasonably sharp lens, slightly worse than the FA 24-90mm, but is subject to more flare. i almost always shoot at f11 or smaller apertures so i don't know what it does close to wide open. at least to my eyes, corner sharpness isn't too much less than center sharpness. although part of my standard lens kit, it is the one i drop first if i have to save weight or space. Herb
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is interesting! Since the silver halides respond to the cumulative effect of light, it is unlikely that the digital sensor would behave in a similar manner. I could be wrong, (and I have been before) but I believe that the different ISO speeds are achieved by processing the received signal/light. This result in ordinary images at higher ISO settings. Bob higher ISOs are achieved mostly by increasing the analog gain of the amplifiers. this leads to a lot of thermal noise. at least for consumer cameras, that also means hot spots as individual pixels may go very nonlinear. i have been thinking about writing a Photoshop filter to handle this type of noise where you get pure R, G, or B hot spots. they can be found because there is near no response in the other two channels at that position. Herb
RE: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
I think you get fisherman's friends (another really potent lozenge) in Salmiak now too! http://www.fishermansfriend.com/finland/tuotteet.htm -Original Message- From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 January 2003 11:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR At 12:33 9.1.2003 +0200, you wrote: If you think Altoids are unpalatable you should try some of the ammoniac lozenges some Finns suck. Absolutely not fit for human consumption - called Salmiakki, or something like that. Raimo will tell us. Don Don Williams Salmiakki is not pure ammoniac.. actually it is ammonium chloride. It is actually really fantastic :-) And not just some Finns.. almost all of us just love it ! When you mix it with Koskenkorva Vodka you get a really nice drink called salmiakkikossu. Some call salmiakki salted liquorice but I don't think this really describes it... Have you tried the Sisu (=perseverance or grit or guts) ? It contains tar extracts and it world famous ;-) Makes us strong ! Those plus the Sauna.. what else can one wish for... except maybe a nice multimegapixel full frame Pentax DSLR... !? A Strong Finn, Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens
Dave wrote: Short comings is its a slow lens f 5.6 at least. Dark through the finder even in good daylight.It is hard to focus,looks fuzzy in the finder(i am using SP500 and Spotties) If it's big, heavy, and all-metal, Jeff could be speaking of the Hanimex 300mm f/4. Or maybe it was an f/4.5. I believe it had a tripod ring and the filter size was either 67, 72, or 77mm. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:44:51 EST, you wrote: snip How soon, if ever, will a Pentax DSLR become available? That's my worry - Pentax announces their DSLR, then drags their feet making it available for sale becuse it may or may not be fully engineered. Pentax' alleged mid-summer availability puts the sale date three or four months out from the PMA introduction date... which seems a long time to me, considering Pentax has been developing a DSLR for at least a couple of years already. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
On 9 Jan 2003 at 11:30, Boris Liberman wrote: The ultimate result of camera+lens+photographer is photograph. Again, unless you're serious professional (such as Michael Reichmann of Luminous Landscape), you will keep getting excellent photos with the equipment you have. That for example would mean that if you had 6 MP DSLR that satisfied you, you probably would have little true reason to upgrade to 11 MP DSLR. I would guess that anyone here who is critical of quality would be keen to acquire a Pentax K mount 11MP DSLR (or better), lager files mean more flexibility WRT post image manipulation and print sizes. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: I have just joined the list
Where's that, Kathy? I used to live in Mentor. keith whaley Kathy L wrote: Welcome, from cold, snow-covered northeast Ohio, Marcel. Kathy L. - Original Message - [apparently snipped!]
Altoids - Was:Blah....
Cotty wrote: I was once hit in the Altoids by a well placed boot. I thought they became Altoids after the boot. Before that, they were Baritoids m
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
Hi Jtodd19261, on 09 Jan 03 you wrote in pentax.list: stuff out way too early. How soon, if ever, will a Pentax DSLR become available? I don't know, but for the Optio S they say that it is available within 2 or 4 weeks. I think that this is the only way to sell digital cameras - be fast. I hope that Pentax will be able to deliver the camera within a few weeks after the PMA. If they were not - why wouldn't they have announced the camera at Photokina? And I don't think that they will make the same mistake again like that MZ-D story... Regards, Heiko
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
On 9 Jan 2003 at 7:06, Herb Chong wrote: higher ISOs are achieved mostly by increasing the analog gain of the amplifiers. this leads to a lot of thermal noise. at least for consumer cameras, that also means hot spots as individual pixels may go very nonlinear. i have been thinking about writing a Photoshop filter to handle this type of noise where you get pure R, G, or B hot spots. they can be found because there is near no response in the other two channels at that position. The Oly E-20 provides for time exposures on bulb of up to 8 minutes however the results aren't too impressive if test sites are to be believed. See the following article for an interesting dissection of image noise vs ISO exposure time: http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/e10/e10-dark.html Also the following link is to a good utility for logging hot/dead pixels in images generated with any digital camera, the test text logs can be filed for later comparison in order to determine if the response of the sensor has changed over time, see: http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
FS: Pentax 400/5.6 PKA, $400
I bought it from Adorama used in 2002. I've used it only four times. Glass is clean. There are some scratches and scuff marks on the built-in retractable hood, but few on the lend body itself. Everything operates smoothly. Optically, the PKA improves on the 400/5.6M by offering close focus (2.8 m), 1:5 magnification, and a FREE design (Fixed Rear Element Extension). $400 with original Pentax hard case, original Pentax front lens cap, third-party rear cap. Buyer can pay me over three months, in equal installments. Options: $35 for B+W UV010 multicoated (yes, multicoated) filter $20 for a VERY RARE threaded 77mm black metal hood, 4 inches long (101 mm), like new (photo available) $15 Cullmann heavy-duty quick-release plate (for use with the Cullmann QR system) PayPal (to my email address below), BidPay, money order, U.S. personal check. Insured U.S. Postal shipping $12 to U.S., $18 to Canada. Shipping anywhere else at cost. I won't be able to check my email till after 9 pm Eastern Time Thursday. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:21:39 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: The ultimate result of camera+lens+photographer is photograph. Again, unless you're serious professional (such as Michael Reichmann of Luminous Landscape), you will keep getting excellent photos with the equipment you have. That for example would mean that if you had 6 MP DSLR that satisfied you, you probably would have little true reason to upgrade to 11 MP DSLR. I would guess that anyone here who is critical of quality would be keen to acquire a Pentax K mount 11MP DSLR (or better), lager files mean more flexibility WRT post image manipulation and print sizes. Right, plus the fact that it might be full frame. In that case the 11mp would be ideal as primary camera, including (ultra) wide-angle and the cheaper, older APS-sized-sensor camera would be a good backup body and perfect for tele-shots as well ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: The Brotherhood
Hi, Dan, The simultaneous shutter release is probably right. But I think its so that the huge vibrations caused by all those massive mirrors going up and down will cause the earth to go off its rotational axis, or out of its orbit or something. regards, frank Dan Scott wrote: I think they're going to do a simultaneous shutter release which would plunge the earth into darkness when those huge pieces of film suckup all the available light. It will be a new Dark Age. Dan Scott -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report
Italy has more than its fair share of natural disasters. Besides building new places to house these valuable collections in some other part of the city there's nothing they can do. Since the 12th Century Florence has suffered a major flood every 25 years or so and a devastating one, once per Century. The Romans were not renowned for their forestry conservation and they denuded the countryside of all timber. As a result the Arno has silted to a depth of 12 metres since those times and the flooding will go on. It may seem ridiculous to us that, with all this foreknowledge, parts of the most valuable collections in the world were kept in basements well below the flood line. In libraries everywhere there is always the problem of space for stacks and because it was at an absolute premium in the BNCF they did this very stupid thing. Its simply a matter of money. And this materialised in uncommon amounts, from rescue committees all over the world, when it was needed to save the books. The technology is simple. Wipe the damaged material with a sponge to remove as much mud and muck as you can, then sprinkle with sawdust to absorb moisture. Dry in a warm place. In Florence they used tobacco kilns and grain drying barns. The next step is to remove as much dried mud as possible and then wash the book, or sheets, or whatever, in warm water. Several changes were used and then they were finally dried. I don't know how this was done for books, but they may have interleaved the wet book in some way. But its obvious that for single sheets like photographs and drawings this should be done flat between layers of water absorbent material. By the way the Library of Congress thinks there are 75 million books in the last stages of embrittlement in the world's libraries. Modern paper is just not made to last. Its full of all kinds of fillers, alum rosin sizes, chemically active bleaching agents and so on. Its also made of wood fibre and not long-fibred rag. Modern paper is quite acid and after some time it yellows, becomes brittle and falls to pieces. Williams J. Barrow produced a durable paper with a calcium buffer that may last for at least 400 years, but no one seems interested. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report Yes Don, that's wonderful, and your point is not lost on conservation people like me. Of course technology can be of significant help. But it probably helps more if we take major steps to ensure that significant or irreplaceable items of local or international cultural value are protected from such mundane threats as floods or mud's. Cheers Shaun Dr E D F Williams wrote: In 1966 Florence was hit by the devastating 'Arno' flood. Ancient books in 30 libraries suffered terrible damage. Centuries old books were soaked and covered with silt and mud. The sight of the shelves in the Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di Firenze was heart breaking. No one would have believed anything could be saved. However, hundreds of students and volunteers were enlisted and many books were removed from the shelves and dried. Others just dried in the stacks. Velum bound volumes, paper and parchment documents that looked like they were ready to be carted to the dump were later restored by washing in warm water and by other very simple methods. In many cases there was more dried mud than paper. Photographs and books or manuscripts, never mind how wet and crumpled they may be, if dried immediately before they begin to decay, can later be cleaned and restored. This later cleaning is quite easy. Books damaged in the Arno flood were examined by scanning electron microscopy after restoration. The micrographs showed traces of mud invisible to the naked eye. I have pictures of the stacks and damage. If anyone is interested please contact me off list. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:50 PM Subject: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report That night I kept having nightmares about having to wade through floodwater downstairs! First light i looked out and breathed a sigh of relief to see no appreciable rise. The stake confirmed it. My mother's house in Cambridge (MA) flooded so badly a couple of years ago that it came within a foot of the first-floor joists. He washing machine was _floating_ and bumping against the basement ceiling! They lost a lot of stuff, including some family heirlooms and old
Re: dumb digital question
T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, I have no problem with USB, period. Photoshop 5.5 came out long before USB. I presume it does not recognize a USB printer, because it does not do so on my system. Now if somebody wants to tell me they have a USB printer working with PS5.5, fine. Yup. Photoshop 5.5 and Epson 1270 via USB. Works fine. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
Rob Studdert wrote: = snipped = Also the following link is to a good utility for logging hot/dead pixels in images generated with any digital camera, the test text logs can be filed for later comparison in order to determine if the response of the sensor has changed over time, see: http://www.starzen.com/imaging/deadpixeltest.htm Thanks, Rob, however... for those to whom it matters, this utility is only good for Windows machines. ~ keith whaley Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 23:21:39 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: The ultimate result of camera+lens+photographer is photograph. Again, unless you're serious professional (such as Michael Reichmann of Luminous Landscape), you will keep getting excellent photos with the equipment you have. That for example would mean that if you had 6 MP DSLR that satisfied you, you probably would have little true reason to upgrade to 11 MP DSLR. I would guess that anyone here who is critical of quality would be keen to acquire a Pentax K mount 11MP DSLR (or better), lager files mean more flexibility WRT post image manipulation and print sizes. Right, plus the fact that it might be full frame. According to what I've read, any 10+ megapixel camera is likely to be full-frame because at that point the pixel density of the sensor is starting to exceed the resolution capabilities of lenses; there'd be no practical benefit in going to 10 megapixels in an APS-sized sensor. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens
Could be Paul.I looked at mine last night,its the f5.5,cannot tell what the construction is.Looks like metal of some sort.This one also has the tripod collar,but not sure of the filter ring size,nothing printed any were.Not 49mm for sure,maybe in the 50's any way. Jeff, the other thing is min. focus,its 8 meters on this model,and its not as heavy as i remembered but heavy enough. :) Dave Begin Original Message From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:15:24 -0500 To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens Dave wrote: Short comings is its a slow lens f 5.6 at least. Dark through the finder even in good daylight.It is hard to focus,looks fuzzy in the finder(i am using SP500 and Spotties) If it's big, heavy, and all-metal, Jeff could be speaking of the Hanimex 300mm f/4. Or maybe it was an f/4.5. I believe it had a tripod ring and the filter size was either 67, 72, or 77mm. [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Layers in Photoshop
Paul Stenquist wrote: The PhotoShop tutorials are quite adequate. You just have to see them through from start to finish. Paul All facetiousness aside, I do believe you. My single objection to PhotoShop is it's massiveness complexity, similar to latest versions of Microsoft Word (or Office, if that pertains...) In a word ~ Bloated! So very much more than almost any normal person would or could ever use! Yet, we, each and everyone of us, have to put up with every bit of the overhead, if we want to or are obligated to use this program in the course of our businesses. I do not dispute the capability of PhotoShop. That it's a wonderful application is without doubt. The very fact that anyone finds a need for such an organization as the NAPP is sufficient indication of it's complexity. I don't want to have to finish pre-med at WRU to be able to do splinter removals and capable first aid! It is just WAY too much for most of us, that's all. keith Keith Whaley wrote: Butch Black wrote: Hi Don; The NAPP sells some wonderful Photoshop training videos including one on layer techniques. They are reasonably priced (3 for $100, $39.99 ea)you can order them at; www.photoshopuser.com BUTCH You mean, after paying 7ty-eleven jillion $'s for PhotoShop, I'm going to spend another hundert or so just learn how to USE it?! Reasonably priced? NFW! But...thanks for the offer! g keith whaley
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
On 9 Jan 2003 at 7:57, Mark Roberts wrote: According to what I've read, any 10+ megapixel camera is likely to be full-frame because at that point the pixel density of the sensor is starting to exceed the resolution capabilities of lenses; there'd be no practical benefit in going to 10 megapixels in an APS-sized sensor. I think it's not likely more due to the facts that there are unwanted trade- offs of lower dynamic range, higher noise and reduced sensitivity for small sensor pixel areas. It seems that around 14-16M pixels is the optimum sensor density for full frame 36x24mm sensor using current technologies. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Bongs
William Robb wrote: = snipped = Dick Bong was a P38 pilot in the Pacific theater. You can learn more about this air hero at: http://www.bongheritagecenter.org/index.html I ate this stuff up when I was a kid. grin I still do! keith whaley William Robb
Re: Is a Pentaxian, By Default, A Good Teacher?
Based on just the first class -- yes! :-) This class is intermediate photography, so he did a review the first night of camera basics. Next week more basics, with emphasis on exposure. Admittedly he covered things very rapidly, but he already explained some of the basics much, much better than my last teacher did. Although not sure he can be called a Pentaxia because he hauled out an old manual Nikon to illustrate SLR points, an old Lecia to illustrate range finder points, and a Hasselbad to illustrate 120 film points. But pretty sure he shoots (from what he said, not positive yet) medium format with a Pentax. However, his teacher goodness probably has more to do with making a living for about 30 years at stock photography. Mainly architectural. Still some things to figure out on my part -- like after he talked and showed slides I realized that I haven't been focusing at the right distance (object) when I want long DOF in a landscape shot while using a small aperture. I've been focusing too far back. (Fortunately this has not come up that much in my photography so far and all my pictures have turned out.) Do'h! Later, Doe aka Marnie
Re: woo hoo
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: I am now the proud owner of a Pentax FA 77/1.8 Limited. It arrived at my house yesterday. Even though I have shot with one before, I've never had the chance to do much more than play. With this and my pile of Astia I bought from Collin, I'll be having some fun now. Doug not in List Guy mode right now :-) Dan Scott
RE: I have just joined the list
Iron Man Frank wrote: From what I hear from the cult leader, 645's don't count, ya gotta have a 6x7. But, whatever, I'd never ignore your posts. g Go easy on me Frank :-) 3 x LXen and 1 x 6x7. Although I might sell one of the three on the left, to fund another on the right! Malcolm
Re: The Brotherhood
Nothing wrong with the square format. The problem Dave and I have (old farts) is focusing with the waistlevel finder outdoors. The prism finder on the SQ is nice bright. But the RF645 is nice and compact. I'm tempted. :-8 Jeff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave chants SQ SQ SQ SQ SQ /dave chants Just my preference for that wasteful 6x6 format ;-) (ya ya.. I know.. let's not start that again) Dave Original Message: - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:20:40 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: The Brotherhood I did Frank,with Jeff on Jan 2.Went to Vistek,Henrys and Downtown Camera.They had an even better sale before Christmas but took the additional 25% off Jan 1. Kind a liked the Bronica SQ and the Bronica RF645.Not yet though, its save time still :) Dave Begin Original Message From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:05:20 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Brotherhood Hey, Dave, All joking aside, Henry's is having a Medium Format sale. You should check it out. Some good prices on 6x7 bodies. If I had the money... Sigh. cheers, frank David Brooks wrote: You might be on to something Frank. Just last week,out of the blue,i thought,must get Aaron his poster and look at MF cameras on the way,end of thoughtg I did and I did.Hummm Dave -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?
Henry wrote: It appears that the very popular EX FILM series of Casio digital cameras are jointly developed with Pentax. As they are working close and sharing success in digital era, are they going to merge? Therews no reason to smell merging just because of joint development. Pentax is mostly behind HP digital cameras as well and God knows how much of other manufacturers PS. Pål
Re: Fw: Z-1p shutter and mirror noise
Is the MZ-S really louder/more noticable than a LX? What about vibrations? The MZ-S is quitest Pentax SLR I've ever used... Pål
Re: Fun in OKC
They're not going to be able to keep their store open based on your purchase, are they? You should have bought a couple of bodies and a few lenses from them. Let's support our Pentax dealers, before they all go under. ;-) Len --- I went to Epperson Photo in Oklahoma CIty this weekend. Interestingly, they sell more Pentax than anything else! The shelves were lined with Pentax. Nice to see for a change. Got myself a Pentax microfiber cloth for lens cleaning. Hadn't seen one in any other store. It's not as fluffy as others, but still does the job. I guess that was fun. Collin :~) _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens
It was on Ebay and went for more than I was willing to pay. $60 +/- and it the seller never answered my email about shipping. Since it was in England I passed. Jeff *\\ -Original Message- From: KudzuPatch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens It's a f4.5 and it does have a tripod ring. That's about all I know about it at this point. Jeff *\\ -Original Message- From: David Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens Could be Paul.I looked at mine last night,its the f5.5,cannot tell what the construction is.Looks like metal of some sort.This one also has the tripod collar,but not sure of the filter ring size,nothing printed any were.Not 49mm for sure,maybe in the 50's any way. Jeff, the other thing is min. focus,its 8 meters on this model,and its not as heavy as i remembered but heavy enough. :) Dave Begin Original Message From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:15:24 -0500 To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens Dave wrote: Short comings is its a slow lens f 5.6 at least. Dark through the finder even in good daylight.It is hard to focus,looks fuzzy in the finder(i am using SP500 and Spotties) If it's big, heavy, and all-metal, Jeff could be speaking of the Hanimex 300mm f/4. Or maybe it was an f/4.5. I believe it had a tripod ring and the filter size was either 67, 72, or 77mm. [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Is a Pentaxian, By Default, A Good Teacher?
Er, that thing that I was talking about that is called hyperfocal distance. Yeah, that thing -- been doing it wrong. Doe aka Marnie :-( Oh, well, live and learn.
Re: I have just joined the list
It's those damned robes. They swish when you walk. Len --- From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I have just joined the list Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:05:18 -0500 Pardon me? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: RE: I have just joined the list They're slightly swishy too. tv _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALLTHAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Rob Brigham wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0301/03010801pentaxoptios.asp Pentax has today announced the ultra tiny Optio S digital camera. Interesting how one photo says SMC Pentax zoom lens and the other has just Pentax zoom lens. As I understand it, the lens *is* SMC. chris
Re: The Brotherhood
I've been considering a cheap prism as well for the Blad - likely the revered Kiev prism that has TTL metering that seems to be so so :) Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:18:33 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Brotherhood Nothing wrong with the square format. The problem Dave and I have (old farts) is focusing with the waistlevel finder outdoors. The prism finder on the SQ is nice bright. But the RF645 is nice and compact. I'm tempted. :-8 Jeff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave chants SQ SQ SQ SQ SQ /dave chants Just my preference for that wasteful 6x6 format ;-) (ya ya.. I know.. let's not start that again) Dave Original Message: - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:20:40 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: The Brotherhood I did Frank,with Jeff on Jan 2.Went to Vistek,Henrys and Downtown Camera.They had an even better sale before Christmas but took the additional 25% off Jan 1. Kind a liked the Bronica SQ and the Bronica RF645.Not yet though, its save time still :) Dave Begin Original Message From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:05:20 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The Brotherhood Hey, Dave, All joking aside, Henry's is having a Medium Format sale. You should check it out. Some good prices on 6x7 bodies. If I had the money... Sigh. cheers, frank David Brooks wrote: You might be on to something Frank. Just last week,out of the blue,i thought,must get Aaron his poster and look at MF cameras on the way,end of thoughtg I did and I did.Hummm Dave -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?
Hi Iren, on 09 Jan 03 you wrote in pentax.list: As they are working close and sharing success in digital era, are they going to merge? It seems that Casio has licensed some Pentax technology: the Casio RV is a Optio RS sibling. They seem to have an strategic alliance. I don't think that they will merge. There were other strategic partners (Pal has already mentioned HP) without the necessity to merge... Regards, Heiko
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
I think the ability to do long exposures depends on how much thermal noise the chip produces, and how well it can separate noise from signal. Dunno the current tech on any particular camera, but I know astro photographers have long embraced digital. However, I think their devices have some serious cooling systems. -- Not that they need it much here, though... :-) Jostein (happy about the last two days' whiff of mild air; only minus ten now) - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: Can digital capture do TIME exposures? I was wondering, do any of the digital cameras on the market do time exposures? i.e. if the correct exposure is like 2 minutes at F11 ? If they can't, it seems like there will alway be niche for film no matter how good digital gets. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My Business references Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/
Re: Bongs
Raimo, That's the fellow, all right. He was a native of the area, which is why the recreation area was named for him. --Mike Yes, Major Richard I. Bong, top American ace of World War Two, shot down 40 Japanese planes in the Pacific - with a Lockheed P-38 Lightning, no less. All the best! Raimo K Mark, Speaking of Bong, there's a place on the road to Chicago called the Bong Recreation Area, named after a WWII flying ace or some such. I was at a gas station off the interstate over Christmas, when this young kid comes in with this big smile on his face. He asks the clerk, what and where is the 'Bong Recreation Area'? I've _got_ to get a picture of this for my friends!! The clerk gave him directions and off he went...
RE: Fun in OKC
Collin, I find that the Pentax lens cloth lasts better than any other ones I have tried. As a matter of fact, I lost one for a few months. I found it outside at work a couple of months ago. A good washing and it is good to go. I usually lose them before I wear them out. Though others have taken my worn ones and continue to use them... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:25 PM -- -- I went to Epperson Photo in Oklahoma CIty this weekend. -- Interestingly, they sell more Pentax than anything else! -- The shelves were lined with Pentax. Nice to see for a change. -- Got myself a Pentax microfiber cloth for lens cleaning. -- Hadn't seen one in any other store. It's not as fluffy -- as others, but still does the job. -- I guess that was fun. -- -- Collin -- :~) --
RE: Pentax and Casio to merge?
You mean they are trying to sell something??? :-) César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:19 PM -- -- Who cares... Nice ad! ;-) -- -- Christian Skofteland -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- - Original Message - -- From: Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- The new Casio EX-Z3 looks very similar to Pentax Optio S: -- -- http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20030108/ces01_07.jpg -- --
RE: I have just joined the list
TV, Your jealousy of the snake skins is showing... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:11 PM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- -- Unlike the LX gang, we don't talk that often, but when we -- do, we talk -- LOUD! The LXxen just talk alot. -- -- They're slightly swishy too. -- -- Us 645'ers just shut up and go to work. -- -- tv -- --
Re: Re: The Brotherhood
Dave, that's cq cq cq Collin KC8TKA *** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dave chants SQ SQ SQ SQ SQ /dave chants Just my preference for that wasteful 6x6 format ;-) (ya ya.. I know.. let's not start that again) Dave ***
Re: Fun in OKC
Actually, I think there's a lot of margin in them. :) Collin * From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're not going to be able to keep their store open based on your purchase, are they? You should have bought a couple of bodies and a few lenses from them. Let's support our Pentax dealers, before they all go under. ;-) Len --- *
Re: woo hoo
Congratulations! I am considering one myself. Speaking of the 77, I noticed the other day that BH is no longer carrying the lens in stock. It is now a Special Order item. The other two Limiteds are in stock, but the 77 is a special order. Michael Cross Doug Brewer wrote: I am now the proud owner of a Pentax FA 77/1.8 Limited. It arrived at my house yesterday. Even though I have shot with one before, I've never had the chance to do much more than play. With this and my pile of Astia I bought from Collin, I'll be having some fun now. Doug not in List Guy mode right now
Re: Fw: Z-1p shutter and mirror noise
It can't be quieter than a ME Super. On Thursday 09 January 2003 01:46 pm, Pål Jensen wrote: Is the MZ-S really louder/more noticable than a LX? What about vibrations? The MZ-S is quitest Pentax SLR I've ever used... Pål -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas Business Is Going To The Dogs
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunno the current tech on any particular camera, but I know astro photographers have long embraced digital. However, I think their devices have some serious cooling systems. -- Not that they need it much here, though... :-) Jostein liquid nitrogen is normal for astro photography. Herb
Lozenges (was: Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR)
- Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you think Altoids are unpalatable you should try some of the ammoniac lozenges some Finns suck. Absolutely not fit for human consumption - called Salmiakki, or something like that. Raimo will tell us. Nice stuff, that. :-) Especially when you get a cold. For kids' party entertainment, drop a few in a glass of coke... BTW, A friend of mine from Bangladesh swear by slices of dried ginger. That beats the knickers off the ammonium stuff. Jostein
Re: My PUG Faves Pt. II
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beetle Thistle by Dan Scott There are several nice macro shots, so I am not totally sure why this one grabbed me the most. I think it's the lovely purple. And the fact that it is against green -- that is always an interesting color combination. The beetle curving around the thistle adds interest, scale, further defines the thistle round form, and, of course, really makes the photo. Very nice close-up. Thanks Marnie. :-) Dan Scott
RE: I have just joined the list
-Original Message- From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] TV, Your jealousy of the snake skins is showing... Nah. #7 has thigh-high faux snakeskin boots, which is plenty for me. tv
Re: Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
Hi, do you know the price of Limited 43/1.9 and PZ-1p if available in your country (in $ please). Alek Uytkownik Iren Henry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Dear all, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's ironic is the fact that Canon can't keep up with demand on the D60, (try to findone in stock anywhere) yet an entire year later they plan to offer a D90? Who are they kidding. They put the stuff out before they make them. In fact, there are lot of stocks of D60 here in Hong Kong. You can buy D60 instantly in any of the major camera shops, or even the chain consumer AV equipment stores. DPReview.com has reported that Canon discontinued D60. At a similar time last year, i.e. few months before PMA, Canon discontinued D30 to make way for D60. I won't be surprised if we are going to see replacement products for D60 in the coming PMA2003. D90 or the rumoured D3 is very likely. Pentax is therefore again planning something obsolete before even it reach the market. I only hope that the rumoured 10M Foveon D-SLR can save their face. Regards, Henry Chu _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Chcesz oszczdzi na kosztach obsugi bankowej ? mBIZNES - konto dla firm http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes
Re: LIMITEDS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD
Hi, Do you think 43Limited is better than A/FA 50/1.4 lenses? Alek Uytkownik whereswayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: Hi gang I have just got my first roll back shot with both the 43 and 77mm limteds and all i can say is the images are just surperb- there is a warmness to sunsets that wasnot there before and detail captured is amazing Flare is non existant even shooting into the sun.. About the 43mm being less sharp than the 50's well i rarely shoot at 1.7 or even 2.8 however at 5.6 and onwards it rips out my eyes. It and the 77 just grab details from the background that i have never seen before almost medium format like. I was also shooting with a Tokina 28=70mm ATX pro 2.6-2.8 and 24-90mm Pentax (flares pretty badly but is sharp and contrasty just doesnot have the image detail of the 77mm) i could clearly could see a difference on prints back from the lab. A word on the 20mm FA I am a little disapointed the images seem flat compared to the 43mm. Also for those who warned me away from the tamron 14mm it is a keeper, images i have taken were sharper at the centre than the 20mm FA and flare was well controlled. Images displayed a warmth similar to the 43mm but without the same crisp detail. Hopefully images will be up soon wayne ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Chcesz oszczdzi na kosztach obsugi bankowej ? mBIZNES - konto dla firm http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes
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; 24mm adaptall; 180mm adaptall and 80-200mm 2.8 HELP?= Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: onet.poczta Hi Fred, How do you assess K200/2.5?Better/worse than present FA200/2.8 lens? Is there a problem with bokeh like you say it is with K105/2.8 lens? If it is it is probably when the lens is wide open. I own K135/2.5 and it is also very nice lens. Do you think 43 Limited is better than A/FA 50/1.4 lenses? Alek Uytkownik Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa: The 180/2.5 is legendary and scarce. I saw a review once in Modern Photo that was (as I recall) quite favorable. I've watched 2 or 3 of these go on eBay recently, which was just for curiosity, since I have a K 200/2.5 that I'm very happy with, but they did look interesting. The 80-200/2.8 is a fine zoom. I think JCO just won one of these on eBay. He maybe doesn't have it in his possession just yet, but perhaps he'll share his experiences with it soon. (I'm personally curious as to just how it might compare to the more common Tokina AT-X 80-200/2.8, which I can say is a really nice fast zoom.) Fred ***r-e-k-l-a-m-a** Chcesz oszczdzi na kosztach obsugi bankowej ? mBIZNES - konto dla firm http://epieniadze.onet.pl/mbiznes
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
True. Cropping room never hurts, and being able to print salon-sized for shows and galleries would be a definite plus. I just hope I won't have to pay $8K to get it. And, truthfully, It won't cost more than $2K, if prices keep coming down. All I have to be able to do is wait for a while. Meanwhile, 6MP APS sized will fill my needs nicely. Len --- I would guess that anyone here who is critical of quality would be keen to acquire a Pentax K mount 11MP DSLR (or better), larger files mean more flexibility WRT post image manipulation and print sizes. Rob Studdert _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Lozenges (was: Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR)
I honestly believe we don't all see exactly the same colours. Now I'm starting to think perhaps we don't taste the same either. Ginger is fine, curry is too, but salmiakki is a chemical substance that should never pass human lips. It tastes like something that might get on the fingers and be transferred to the mouth by a very careless chemistry student. Strong mints are okay. Fisherman's friend is fine but that stuff is fit for nothing except perhaps as an ingredient for cleaning things before electroplating, or for explosives. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Lozenges (was: Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SO SMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR) - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you think Altoids are unpalatable you should try some of the ammoniac lozenges some Finns suck. Absolutely not fit for human consumption - called Salmiakki, or something like that. Raimo will tell us. Nice stuff, that. :-) Especially when you get a cold. For kids' party entertainment, drop a few in a glass of coke... BTW, A friend of mine from Bangladesh swear by slices of dried ginger. That beats the knickers off the ammonium stuff. Jostein
Re: Bongs
Bong (I think his first name was Richard) flew P-38's in the Pacific Theater during WWII, and, IIRC, was America's leading ace of the war. Bill - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Bongs I'm planning on forming my own cult for the expressed purpose of being suppressed by Chinese communists. We're just gonna hang out and smoke dope all day. We're calling ourselves the Falun Bong. Mark, Speaking of Bong, there's a place on the road to Chicago called the Bong Recreation Area, named after a WWII flying ace or some such. I was at a gas station off the interstate over Christmas, when this young kid comes in with this big smile on his face. He asks the clerk, what and where is the 'Bong Recreation Area'? I've _got_ to get a picture of this for my friends!! The clerk gave him directions and off he went... g --Mike
OT: Anyone running PS7 on a Mac?
Hi gang, Anyone running Photoshop 7 on a Mac under 9.X and *not* OS X ? Any issues that you have found? Is it stable? many thanks, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Pentax DSLR: e-mail from Pentax USA
The important question for digital is where this good enough line occurs for most folks, and given a good price it could be lower than you think. I have no desire at this stage to move on from 6 MP. The images are stunning at this size and I see no reason to change. Of course, I would also love to transfer images faster to my computer. I currently find the prospect of 60-100 stored images to be moved rather daunting. I recently purchased a Fuji CF/SmartMedia card reader with FireWire (IEEE 1394) interface and the transfer rates are much better than USB. In the PC world, I think it depends on the name of the manufacturer (eg Sony's iLink). Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: The Brotherhood
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Re: OT: Anyone running PS7 on a Mac?
Hey Cotty, I'm running PS 7 on OS X. But I boot into OS 9 when I need to do my printing (because Epson can't seem to put together a half decent driver for OS X). Even though I installed it in OS X, it runs just fine in OS 9. What's it doing? Have you donwloaded the updates for it?? Mark --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, Anyone running Photoshop 7 on a Mac under 9.X and *not* OS X ? Any issues that you have found? Is it stable? many thanks, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] liquid nitrogen is normal for astro photography. Uh... Cheers? ... :-) There are many amateurs who use modified web-cameras on their scopes... Jostein
Re: The Brotherhood
Bill, KG4LOV QRZ? -Mat, N2NJZ Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Dave, that's cq cq cq
Re: The Brotherhood
Ryan, N9YBX Bill Owens wrote: Bill, KG4LOV QRZ? -Mat, N2NJZ Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Dave, that's cq cq cq
Re: Is a Pentaxian, By Default, A Good Teacher?
Ah, but did he talk about the Rule of Thirds? (sorry, couldn't resist) cheers, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on just the first class -- yes! :-) This class is intermediate photography, so he did a review the first night of camera basics. Next week more basics, with emphasis on exposure. Admittedly he covered things very rapidly, but he already explained some of the basics much, much better than my last teacher did. Although not sure he can be called a Pentaxia because he hauled out an old manual Nikon to illustrate SLR points, an old Lecia to illustrate range finder points, and a Hasselbad to illustrate 120 film points. But pretty sure he shoots (from what he said, not positive yet) medium format with a Pentax. However, his teacher goodness probably has more to do with making a living for about 30 years at stock photography. Mainly architectural. Still some things to figure out on my part -- like after he talked and showed slides I realized that I haven't been focusing at the right distance (object) when I want long DOF in a landscape shot while using a small aperture. I've been focusing too far back. (Fortunately this has not come up that much in my photography so far and all my pictures have turned out.) Do'h! Later, Doe aka Marnie -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
RE: I have just joined the list
We could arrange that... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:30 AM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- -- -- -- TV, didn't one of your assistants talk about re-skinning -- your 645n? ;-) -- -- -- Yeah, and I told her it'd have to be her own skin. -- -- Anyway, what she really wants is a pink MZ-S. -- -- tv -- --
RE: woo hoo
Doug, That means I can actually leave mine lying around on GFM without having to see where you are? :-) Congratulations! Once you get one Limited Lens... Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM -- -- I am now the proud owner of a Pentax FA 77/1.8 Limited. It -- arrived at my -- house yesterday. Even though I have shot with one before, -- I've never had -- the chance to do much more than play. With this and my pile -- of Astia I -- bought from Collin, I'll be having some fun now. -- -- Doug -- not in List Guy mode right now --
MZ-M viewfinder inside MZ-5n
I know it is technicaly possible to put viewfinder from MZ-M to all MZ (i have MZ-5n) - but i'm not sure: 1) Is it useful ? 2) Does viewfinder (split-image central focussing area) show right focus with all lensen at all focus distanses (i don't use lenses longer than 135mm) - is it calibrated for all mz (5n) or only for mz-m ? 3) What is the size of split-image central focussing area compared to the spot metter area from mz-5n ?
Re: OT: Anyone running PS7 on a Mac?
I'm running Mac OS 9.2, and PS7. Have not found any problems with it yet. Nick Wright On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 01:02 PM, Cotty wrote: Hi gang, Anyone running Photoshop 7 on a Mac under 9.X and *not* OS X ? Any issues that you have found? Is it stable? many thanks, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: FW: 300mm Hanimex Lens
I've never seen a Hanimex that I'd want to pay that much for, especially if you have to tack on another $20 or so to ship from the UK. They were making plastic barrel lenses before plastic became polycarbonate (and thus acceptable). Mind you, I know someone who has a plastic 135mm m42 Hanimex, and he says it's not nearly as bad a lens as one might think. regards, frank KudzuPatch wrote: It was on Ebay and went for more than I was willing to pay. $60 +/- and it the seller never answered my email about shipping. Since it was in England I passed. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?
There's a Casio digital PS at Wally World that has a Pentax lens on it. The camera seems to be fairly nice. Extremely short shutter lag... great features. Over $400 though. Nick Wright
Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report
I rest my case. Wouldn't it be simpler to move the damn stuff to a less flood prone area - like say the Simpson Desert? :):). If it keeps happening (which it does) then surely seeking alternative storage is the only responsible thing to...and any organization or staff that use basement storage that is below a modern flood level is just plain thick. Blind freddy should be able to work that one out. As for modern paper...anything worth publishing should be published on high quality acid free paper at least. Cheers Shaun Dr E D F Williams wrote: Italy has more than its fair share of natural disasters. Besides building new places to house these valuable collections in some other part of the city there's nothing they can do. Since the 12th Century Florence has suffered a major flood every 25 years or so and a devastating one, once per Century. The Romans were not renowned for their forestry conservation and they denuded the countryside of all timber. As a result the Arno has silted to a depth of 12 metres since those times and the flooding will go on. It may seem ridiculous to us that, with all this foreknowledge, parts of the most valuable collections in the world were kept in basements well below the flood line. In libraries everywhere there is always the problem of space for stacks and because it was at an absolute premium in the BNCF they did this very stupid thing. Its simply a matter of money. And this materialised in uncommon amounts, from rescue committees all over the world, when it was needed to save the books. The technology is simple. Wipe the damaged material with a sponge to remove as much mud and muck as you can, then sprinkle with sawdust to absorb moisture. Dry in a warm place. In Florence they used tobacco kilns and grain drying barns. The next step is to remove as much dried mud as possible and then wash the book, or sheets, or whatever, in warm water. Several changes were used and then they were finally dried. I don't know how this was done for books, but they may have interleaved the wet book in some way. But its obvious that for single sheets like photographs and drawings this should be done flat between layers of water absorbent material. By the way the Library of Congress thinks there are 75 million books in the last stages of embrittlement in the world's libraries. Modern paper is just not made to last. Its full of all kinds of fillers, alum rosin sizes, chemically active bleaching agents and so on. Its also made of wood fibre and not long-fibred rag. Modern paper is quite acid and after some time it yellows, becomes brittle and falls to pieces. Williams J. Barrow produced a durable paper with a calcium buffer that may last for at least 400 years, but no one seems interested. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Floods, WAS: OT: Manfrotto tripod mini-report Yes Don, that's wonderful, and your point is not lost on conservation people like me. Of course technology can be of significant help. But it probably helps more if we take major steps to ensure that significant or irreplaceable items of local or international cultural value are protected from such mundane threats as floods or mud's. Cheers Shaun Dr E D F Williams wrote: In 1966 Florence was hit by the devastating 'Arno' flood. Ancient books in 30 libraries suffered terrible damage. Centuries old books were soaked and covered with silt and mud. The sight of the shelves in the Biblioteca Nazionale Centrale di Firenze was heart breaking. No one would have believed anything could be saved. However, hundreds of students and volunteers were enlisted and many books were removed from the shelves and dried. Others just dried in the stacks. Velum bound volumes, paper and parchment documents that looked like they were ready to be carted to the dump were later restored by washing in warm water and by other very simple methods. In many cases there was more dried mud than paper. Photographs and books or manuscripts, never mind how wet and crumpled they may be, if dried immediately before they begin to decay, can later be cleaned and restored. This later cleaning is quite easy. Books damaged in the Arno flood were examined by scanning electron microscopy after restoration. The micrographs showed traces of mud invisible to the naked eye. I have pictures of the stacks and damage. If anyone is interested please contact me off list. Don Don Williams ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:50 PM Subject: Floods,
Re: The Brotherhood
Herb, KB2VXR Ryan, N9YBX Bill Owens wrote: Bill, KG4LOV QRZ? -Mat, N2NJZ Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Dave, that's cq cq cq
Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SOSMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: gfen (PA dutch..the creators of scrapple) ah! - now we're talkin' good stuff! What, scrapple? I'm not so sure if it qualifies as good, but I'm OK with things like bacon gravy and faschnachts.. :) (I read somewhere that an average loaf of scrapple contains four pig rectums, and I think I'm forever turned off...) -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.
Re: dumb digital question
Tom, FWIW, I have PS 5.0 and an Epson Photo 2000P running off a USB port... no problemo. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: Re: dumb digital question Once again, I have no problem with USB, period. Photoshop 5.5 came out long before USB. I presume it does not recognize a USB printer, because it does not do so on my system. Now if somebody wants to tell me they have a USB printer working with PS5.5, fine. If you just think it should, bug off. EXPERTS! I am one myself, so I know how stupid they are GRIN. ONCE AGAIN there is nothing wrong with USB on my system, which I custom built myself, I simply commented in a previous post that PS5.5 doesn't work with USB. And I get people telling me I don't know how to set up my computer. GEEZE! PS: that is PS5.5 Educational Version. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: Re: dumb digital question I missed the beginning of this thread but there could be another problem. Some earlier motherboards had USB ports but the BIOS didn't properly support it. You may have to update your BIOS. Check the web site of the manufacturer of your computer. At 06:29 PM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: I am glad you know this. Because PS5.5 has the printer selection blanked out with the 820 on USB. With it on the parallel port no problem. It is not a USB problem because the printer works fine with all the newer programs. Of course, if you have a 820, running on the USB port, with PS5.5 please let me know how to do it. If you don't, then I think my experience trumps your belief's. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:32 AM Subject: Re: dumb digital question Not true, Tom. If your Operating System supports USB, it will direct printer output there for you. Photoshop doesn't bypass the Operating System for printer output. If your computer has USB ports, then it should be safe to say that your OS supports them. You may have to look for updated USB drivers, though. Len --- not find that screen setting, of course since I saw it I changed from a parallel port to a USB connection. Maybe I need to change back. In fact I do anyway because photoshop 5.5 knows nothing about USB. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
Re: MZ-M viewfinder inside MZ-5n
No more spot meter if you do so. However, a ZX-5 (not the -5n) has no spot meter, so perhaps a used ZX-5 might be the way to go.. I have never been sure on this matter. My opinion is, if the spot meter sensor is below the mirror, the split image has no effect to the spot meter. If it is near the eyepiece, it won't be accurate. Anyone knows? regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: HTML Editors
Dreamweaver 4.0 or MX combined with Homesite 4.5 for some coding Mind you.. I'm only NOW considering re-hashing the whole website thing.. but those tools are the best in the biz Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Subject: OT: HTML Editors What HTML editors or web page creation software are PDMLer's using for their web sites? I am still using Frontpage 2000, which does the job, but is an idiosyncratic little bugger... Cheers Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Layers in Photoshop
Got remember that Photoshop was initially a graphic arts tool that could be used to manipulate digital photo images among other things. Point being it was not aimed at the photographer. Until recently, in my area, all Photoshop courses were targeting the graphic artist not the photographer. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Layers in Photoshop Paul Stenquist wrote: The PhotoShop tutorials are quite adequate. You just have to see them through from start to finish. Paul All facetiousness aside, I do believe you. My single objection to PhotoShop is it's massiveness complexity, similar to latest versions of Microsoft Word (or Office, if that pertains...) In a word ~ Bloated! So very much more than almost any normal person would or could ever use! Yet, we, each and everyone of us, have to put up with every bit of the overhead, if we want to or are obligated to use this program in the course of our businesses. I do not dispute the capability of PhotoShop. That it's a wonderful application is without doubt. The very fact that anyone finds a need for such an organization as the NAPP is sufficient indication of it's complexity. I don't want to have to finish pre-med at WRU to be able to do splinter removals and capable first aid! It is just WAY too much for most of us, that's all. keith Keith Whaley wrote: Butch Black wrote: Hi Don; The NAPP sells some wonderful Photoshop training videos including one on layer techniques. They are reasonably priced (3 for $100, $39.99 ea)you can order them at; www.photoshopuser.com BUTCH You mean, after paying 7ty-eleven jillion $'s for PhotoShop, I'm going to spend another hundert or so just learn how to USE it?! Reasonably priced? NFW! But...thanks for the offer! g keith whaley
Re: Fun in OKC
Or stiffer than a Pentax Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Fun in OKC That should be our motto, Pentax, not as fluffy as the others. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/08/03 09:50PM Got myself a Pentax microfiber cloth for lens cleaning. [snip] It's not as fluffy as others, but still does the job. Ah, that's Pentax for ya...;-) Fred
Re: Layers in Photoshop
Educational copies of the full blown Photoshop 7.0 are available from most larger college bookstores for under $200. I got my Educational copy of PS5.0 right after it came out for around $135. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Layers in Photoshop Here's a somehow little known fact about PhotoShop 7. Chances are, if you've bought a computer or printer within recent history, you have a free copy of PhotoShop 5 LE. If you install it, and then register it online with Adobe, you'll be in a valid upgrade path to Photoshop 7 for as little as $129.00, if you look around online. Mine came from Amazon.com for that price. So, there's no real reason to spend $600 for PhotoShop 7. Len --- From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Layers in Photoshop Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:10:57 -0800 Butch Black wrote: Hi Don; The NAPP sells some wonderful Photoshop training videos including one on layer techniques. They are reasonably priced (3 for $100, $39.99 ea)you can order them at; www.photoshopuser.com BUTCH You mean, after paying 7ty-eleven jillion $'s for PhotoShop, I'm going to spend another hundert or so just learn how to USE it?! Reasonably priced? NFW! But...thanks for the offer! g keith whaley _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures?
Yep, a little liquid nitrogen will do wonders. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Can digital capture do TIME exposures? I think the ability to do long exposures depends on how much thermal noise the chip produces, and how well it can separate noise from signal. Dunno the current tech on any particular camera, but I know astro photographers have long embraced digital. However, I think their devices have some serious cooling systems.
Re: dumb digital question
OK, that tells me something. If I get the time I will try to sort it out. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:41 AM Subject: Re: dumb digital question T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, I have no problem with USB, period. Photoshop 5.5 came out long before USB. I presume it does not recognize a USB printer, because it does not do so on my system. Now if somebody wants to tell me they have a USB printer working with PS5.5, fine. Yup. Photoshop 5.5 and Epson 1270 via USB. Works fine. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Vs: PENTAX DEBUTS A HIGH-QUALITY ZOOM LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SOSMALL THAT IT FITS INTO A TIN OF ALTOIDSR
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 04:30 PM, gfen wrote: (I read somewhere that an average loaf of scrapple contains four pig rectums, and I think I'm forever turned off...) Ahh...the fabled pork donut steak. Dan Scott
Re: HTML Editors
- Original Message - From: Shaun Canning Subject: OT: HTML Editors What HTML editors or web page creation software are PDMLer's using for their web sites? I am still using Frontpage 2000, which does the job, but is an idiosyncratic little bugger... Adobe Golive 6.0. And I thought Photoshop 7.0 was intensive. Most of the people I know use Dreamweaver, and one girl I know uses something called Teacup (or some such). William Robb
Re: OT: HTML Editors
Arachnophilia -- http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/ Freeware which the author has been supporting/updating for years. However, it is only for those who know html, it is not a write the hmtl for you editor. It is a plain text editor customized for html. Tool bars for common html functions, spell checker, able to switch between browser and editor for page preview, and why I like it -- the beautifier -- which straightens up html code and double-checks it at the same time -- i.e. it finds if a tag is missing. I probably would like it for the beautifier alone, which is always accurate (though it can't always tell you exactly where the tag is missing, just what tag is missing and approximately where it is missing from the page). HTH, Doe aka Marnie
RE: Optio S: joint development with Casio (was Re: Pentax and Casio to merge?)
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Iren Henry Chu wrote: The new Casio EX-Z3 looks very similar to Pentax Optio S: It is indeed a sister camera of Optio S: http://www.exilim.jp/ex_z3/index.html where you can see the same SMC Pentax Zoom Lens logo in front I can't resist playing Devil's advocate. Where it has a SMC Pentax lens would we be able (legally) to use the Casio to post on the PUG ? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Vivitar 400mm lens?
Hi, Vivitar made two different models of the 400/5.6. Make sure you get the multi-coated one with the auto aperture. I`m very happy with mine. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. - Original Message - From: KudzuPatch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Vivitar 400mm lens? What can anyone tell me about the Screw mount Vivitar 400mm f5.6? I found one for about $100. Seems like a reasonable price to me for one in good condition. Anyone use one and comment on the picture quality? Jeff *\\
