Re: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
Frank, If I had ~those~ connections to this day PDML is the last place I'd want to exercise them, OTOH there's a certain neighbour of our's whom I'd have no hesitation in calling the dogs onto (vbeg*). regards, Anthony Farr * very big evil grin - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony, It strikes me that perhaps you shouldn't be divulging all of this to this list. Do we all now have to look forward to clicky phone lines and monitored electronic communications? I swear to God, if men in black suits and sunglasses start knocking at my door, or if I find that I'm constantly being driven off the road by large black limousines, I'll know who to blame! vbg Seriously, great yarn. Could be the seeds of a screenplay or book: By day he's an unassumiong museum photographer, by night, photospy! I take my stop bath shaken, not stirred... Farr.Anthony Farr. I should really stop now... -frank
OT: Tomorrow I hit the road......
. to Melbourne with my family. With luck, it'll be a quiet day on the Deadly Hume Hwy, with all of tonight's revellers hiding indoors behind drawn blinds, unable to face the hard light of day lest their heads should explode (been there but not this year, especially with a 1,000km drive in front of me). Happy New Year, see you in about 10 days. regards, Anthony Farr
Re: Dynamic Range
you've heard of spatial frequency response? doesn't involve time. otherwise known as lens resolution. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Dynamic Range Ah... Are all ranges dynamic? So what ranges are dynamic, and, more importantly, why?
Re: 50/1.2 in Trading Post
William, I guess you'll need to enter via their home page www.tradingpost.com.au and run a search. See my first post for help in finding the location and category. I sent this message days ago, and only just saw your reply, I wonder if my message was delayed getting to you, or your reply got delayed getting to me? regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: William R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is a great price! I`m so tempted in buying another one especially for that price too bad I don`t like to buy things without seeing it in person. I`ve had a bad experience buying at ebay once so I`m wary of auctions and such. I may change my mind later though there are some good deals on ebay. Anthony that link you gave us doesn`t seem to be working. William R.
Re: Magnon lenses
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: There were two versions of Magnons. The earlier Neanderons are less desirable than the later Cromagnons. Is that a joke? And if yes, is it yours or is it the company's? But shoot some film and find out if they are satisfactory for your needs. I intend to shoot some, when it comes my way, I have nothing above 200 at the mo and birds visit the roof quite often. Thanks for all the answers and the suggestion above in particular, Kostas
Re: Just one tip
i find 1 stop bracketing as the older cameras do is totally inadequate for something like Velvia. half stop is better and 1/3 stop even better. bracketing using the aperture ring or shutter dial doesn't do this. using exposure compensation does, but why bother when auto bracketing respects the mode you are in. if you are in Av, only the shutter speed varies. if Tv, then aperture. if P, then the camera does what it wants. Herb - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Just one tip annsan replies to shel I bracket changing aperature 1 stop up one stop down - when shooting slide film on the road in a natural surrounding... or when I'm not sure what I want to concentrate on, and when the light meter I'm using seems to be disagreeing with my instinct... sometimes I bracket up and down more than that. Not with every thing I shoot of course. If something is really captivating I bracket and change filters, too - as quickly as I can, so I can decide what effect I like best in a leisurely fashion.
2004 fireworks
Just some snaps with the *istD with some fireworks for tonights display locally here, not a large display, just our humble town(pop 500) In the past I have always used iso 50 slide film for fireworks, but thought I would try the *istD to see what comes out. There was a strong cross wind with the fireworks from left to right. The *istD minimum iso is 200. I would really have liked the extra stops. CAUTION: images are 1-2 megs, use the .small images for faster loading http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/001.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/001.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/002.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/002.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/003.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/003.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/004.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/004.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/005.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/005.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/006.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/006.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/007.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/007.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/008.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/008.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/009.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/009.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/010.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/010.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/011.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/011.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/012.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/012.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/013.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/013.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/014.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/014.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/015.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/015.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/016.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/016.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/017.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/017.small.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/018.jpg http://www.wildcherry.com.au/2004/018.small.jpg Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Strange LX Behaviour
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that, but to be honest I do prefer Gianfranco's answer. It sounds much less expensive!!! I'll let you know how I get on. Peter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: RE: Strange LX Behaviour Peter, some LX's have issues with shutter timing (about 40% of them) try this and reply with your findings: Set LX to Auto, set ISO to 3200, take lens off and fit body cap (so no light reaches the sensor - or you could put a lens cap on the lens), fire 20 or so exposures. The shutter should stay open 'forever' and you'll have to end the exposure by taking the dial off Auto. If you find that some exposure fire at something that sounds like 1/60 or so... then I have much more information for you - not very cheery I must warn you. If you find that all exposures are 'infinite' (as they should be as there's no light) and you have to end them by taking the dial off Auto, then I have no idea and can't help I'm afraid. Good luck AB Freeserve AnyTime - HALF PRICE for the first 3 months - Save £7.50 a month www.freeserve.com/anytime
Re: HNY
Hi! On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:52:55 + Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an hour and a bit to midnight in Australia, so unless we have any PDMLers sprinkled out in the south Pacific, may I wish everyone a pleasant and peaceful 2004. Clickety click. I'll drink to that, no doubt, no doubt. My all of us have a healthy and joyous NY and very H celebration of thereof. On a side note, I can almost feel how serous is the effect that Grinwich has on Englanders... At least on some of them that are members of this list... HNY! Boris
Re: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
Mark, That sort of work goes against SWMBO's philosophy. Plus, if I'd taken ~that~ job I'd never have met SWMBO, so I won't ever regret passing up the spook job. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah? And how are we all supposed to know *for certain* that you didn't really get the job after all? This is just the kind of story a real spook would use to gain our confidence!g -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Just one tip
Tanya, i am a nature photographer and i consider 20% hit rate quite acceptable for filling in stock. very few of my rejects are outright bad photos. they tend to be the ones of the kind where something went wrong and i left the camera in the wrong setting or such. the 80% that doesn't make it more or less because i decided they were only OK and not as good as i wanted. most of my non-photographer friends would like to be able to shoot as well as my rejects, but i know that because i am selling to a stock photography market, my standards have to be higher. it has to be more than good exposure, it has to be perfect exposure, so when i shoot film, i bracket 1/2 stop on Provia and 1/3 stop on Velvia. sharpness has to be very high most of the time, but luckily i shoot f11 and and smaller most of the time anyway. exceptions of course when i choose selective focus or out of focus entirely. some of the differences are trivial differences in composition but one feels better than the others in the set. it boils down for me to shooting the best i can all the time and choosing not to accept more than 20% pretty much no matter how good the rejects are. out of this 20%, i choose about 1/4 to print and put into my portfolio and fine art display. aiming to make every shot count is needless stress. allowing the BG to see the shots at the same time as you do make it more stressful. someone bumps you and you take a picture of your foot. do they really need to see that or hear your explanation? even if you are giving them everything, prints and negatives, what if the processing screws up? you had better know first and not at the same time as they do. Herb - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Just one tip Bill said:Tanya, that is bullshit. What it means is that you shoot an extra couple of rolls of film on any given job to get the number of hits you need, - that is exactly what I *do* do now Bill, it sucks though, cause I really wish that I could be confident that I could open the package straight from the lab and know that it would be ok if my client was sitting over my shoulder looking at them as I was, and not feel that I need to hide any from them...
Happy New Year!
Hello All, I would like to wish you all the best in the upcoming 2004 year. Have good health to take photos, be happy because of the great shots, have money for your new toys :-) Happy New Year! -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My objection to the camera from the start was the loss of lens compatability. When I picked it up, I guess I decided that wasn't such an important issue after all. In fact the only K/M lenses for which Pentax doesn't currently make an equivalent focal length (or very close) are the 15/3.5, the 18/3.5, and the 1000mm and 2000mm telephotos. (And the 15/3.5 was later made in an A version). -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, John Francis wrote: In any case, think of it as the final model in the old MZ/ZX range (which includes the ZX-5n and ZX-3); very capable cameras, but which all use the lens aperture ring, not body-mounted aperture controls. Not all. The cripple mount MZs do body-mounted aperture control. Not sure about the -6, the -7 or the -10. Kostas
Re: Just one tip
like i said, Malcolm, are you sure it wasn't her camera you opened? Herb - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 2:22 AM Subject: RE: Just one tip LOL! It's just gone off to work with her for the third day in a row, but I'll remember that for future reference!
Re: Evening / night photography
Hi, What film are you using. Regards, Bob Poe --- Naomi van der Lippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning, good evening, good day all PUGgers I urgently need constructive and practical (what to do, when to do and how to do it) advice on evening / night time photography (in- and outdoors). I only had one successful shot in the dark (and it literally was a shot in the dark, which was displayed on PUG some time back) and have never been able to recreate it. I did not have a shutter release cable then but do now. My camera is an MZ50. Thanks a lot, in advance! Naomi van der Lippe Randburg, South Africa ** Everything in this e-mail and attachments relating to the official business of MultiChoice Africa is proprietary to the company. Any view or opinion expressed in this message may be the view of the individual and should not automatically be ascribed to the company. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email, facsimile or telephone and destroy the original message. ** = What boots up must come down. __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
Re: 2004 fireworks
that's what ND filters are for. because of what i choose to shoot, even when i shot with Velvia, i had a complete set of ND filters from 1 stop to 10 stops. 20 seconds at f22 on a bright sunlit subject sometimes is needed and a 10 stop filter gives me that. Herb - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: 2004 fireworks In the past I have always used iso 50 slide film for fireworks, but thought I would try the *istD to see what comes out. There was a strong cross wind with the fireworks from left to right. The *istD minimum iso is 200. I would really have liked the extra stops.
Re: Magnon lenses
Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostas wrote: Does anyone have any insight into the Magnon brand? A 75-300 is coming my way as part of a bundle. There were two versions of Magnons. The earlier Neanderons are less desirable than the later Cromagnons. The black ones were the Pro-Magnons, of course... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Strange LX Behaviour
if Giofranco's asnwer is right, then a circular polarizer should fix the discrepancy. Herb - Original Message - From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Strange LX Behaviour Thanks for the tip. I'll try that, but to be honest I do prefer Gianfranco's answer. It sounds much less expensive!!!
Re: Just one tip
Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't let tv touch your equipment. Wink. Oh TV himself is fine with equipment. He pays assistants to drop his gear for him! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Q: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
Hi Boris. I cannot answer in respect to the Fuji,as i have never used it,but,on the Tmax 3200 i can offer an opinion as i have use this several times. I have used both the Tmax and the Ilford 3200 and i find the Kodak just a bit less harsh with the grain,especially if you have some diffused light to work with.Both seem to give similar grain under arena type lights(ie hockey arena etc).If i want a lot of grain for pub type band shots i'll go with the Ilford.I think the Tmax 3200 at 4x6 prints will be fine. Dave Oh i quess i should add i usually wind up shooting it at 6400 and this may add to the grain,but for band shots grain is good:-) Hi! So, finally here is the question g: what is better: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600 scanned and turned b/w digitally? One last detail, the resulting shots are going to be 4x6 unless I manage to produce something they'd ask me to enlarge. Thanks in advance. Boris
Re: Strange LX Behaviour
can't type - i meant Gianfranco. Herb - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Strange LX Behaviour if Giofranco's asnwer is right, then a circular polarizer should fix the discrepancy. Herb - Original Message - From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Strange LX Behaviour Thanks for the tip. I'll try that, but to be honest I do prefer Gianfranco's answer. It sounds much less expensive!!!
The Smithsonian contest how many are in?
FIrst of all I DIDNT use the cloud shot from December ;) Didn't even enter in the Nature category. Sending in things in 3 categories Today is the deadline -- Who else is in? (Remember you full time pros can't enter, though.) annsan
Happy New Year from Australia
Hope you all have a joyess and peaceful year. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: AW: Pentax's dSLR future?
And didn't someone write that the Super Tak screw mount lenses were entirely workable when used stopped down to the working aperture? Pentax overlooked this - or maybe they regarded the Takumar owners a too small group to invest into making these lenses unuseable. Lately I've become concerned that Paranoids Anonymous is keeping their meetings secret from me... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Hi all. Happy New Year to all. Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized print.I forgot to ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? Just curious is all Dave
Re: The Smithsonian contest how many are in?
I managed to sneak mine in.. one entry for 'the natural world'. 50 finalists so I'm guessing there's a fair shot at a cap feather (belated congrats on word wars, Ann!). Me myself, I'm not even going to try to imagine a win. I don't think my neck could handle the weight of the ostrich.. Cheers! Ryan - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: The Smithsonian contest how many are in? FIrst of all I DIDNT use the cloud shot from December ;) Didn't even enter in the Nature category. Sending in things in 3 categories Today is the deadline -- Who else is in? (Remember you full time pros can't enter, though.) annsan
Re: 2004 fireworks
This one time, at band camp, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's what ND filters are for. Indeed. I also found with the *istD the delays storing the images most annoying. Missed alot of possible shots. Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
I've seen one about that size from one of the photos on the Pentax web site. Absolutely stunning! I did an 11x14 from the Optio S using genuine fractals and was impressed with it considering it only started out at 3.2 Mb Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 3:30 AM Subject: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet Hi all. Happy New Year to all. Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized print.I forgot to ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? Just curious is all Dave
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet. Yes it has i was told, and she went and grabbed a poster sized print. I forgot to ask, but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW. Just stunning. Great colour and detail (and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Rule of thumb: Never believe *anything* a salesman tells you ;-) Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? I've made a 12 x 18 inch print from one of the test shots I took with an *ist-D in August. Looks great. That's the biggest size I find acceptable with 35mm film and I think 6MP digital is just slightly behind for landscape shots with lots of textures and detail. Of course, my experience with the *ist-D consists of just that one afternoon of shooting - I haven't bought one yet. Others with more experience will have opinions to offer. (But I *am* going to get an *ist-D!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 2004 fireworks
how many shots in a burst? faster memory cards help. Herb... - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: 2004 fireworks I also found with the *istD the delays storing the images most annoying. Missed alot of possible shots.
RE: Pentax's dSLR future?
-- -Original Message- -- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:00 PM -- -- At 11:35 AM 12/31/2003 +1000, you wrote: -- -- The stupid design of the memory card access port is -- probably another -- compromise -- due to the design size constraints. Unfortunately the *ist -- D review on -- luminous- -- landscape -- (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-is td.shtml) highlights these problems and others and for the first occasion I tend to agree with Mr Reichmann. I really don't understand the hoo-ha about the CF card slot on the *ist-D. After pressing the eject button, my cards slide right out with a little assist from right thumb. I've read complaints that you can't grasp the cards and pull it out - but you don't _need_ to grasp it to pull it out... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com - Mark, It is a question of having to come up with a method to remove it. I instinctively tilt the camera to remove the card. I have used the Nikon D1H and D1X extensively. The card just pops out and there is no fumbling around with a particular method to remove the card. I have small hands, it was a little cumbersome to just reach in and get the card, thus my complaint. Cesar Panama City, Florida
AW: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
I had one print done at 16x24 (40x60cm) and at that size you can somehow 'see the end', so to speak. The print looks very, very good, though. Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2003 09:30 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet Hi all. Happy New Year to all. Just wondering if anyone has tried a large enlargement from the *istD yet. I was at Nikon yesterday,getting a very dusty/dirty CCD cleaned,when i asked if the D2H had been released in Canada yet.Yes it has i was told,and she went and grabbed a poster sized print.I forgot to ask,but it was either 20x30 or 24x36 or there abouts. Close up pic of an elephants eye and ear. WOW.Just stunning.Great colour and detail(and its only 4.2mp) I heard a slaesman tell a camera buyer it was from a 1.8mg jpf file and was worked in their raw software. Is it to much to ask if the *istD can do a good 20x30 etc at 6.1 pixels.?? Just curious is all Dave
RE: Strange LX Behaviour
Ooops, sorry. Didn't register the bit about a polariser - I don't use them but I know that the wrong type messes with exposure and autofocus. Don't bother with my suggested test. AB Freeserve AnyTime - HALF PRICE for the first 3 months - Save £7.50 a month www.freeserve.com/anytime
New Year goodie bag
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No Subject
Cotty wrote: ...until the *ist D. Came along. I was really impressed with that camera. It is nothing like the MZ-S, mercifully. Cotty everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think you severely underestimate the MZ-S. I am an LX lover and the MZ-S is, in my opinion, the closest thing to an LX only with autofocus and a few other goodies. It's everything you could dream of from its build quality to its intuitive controls. If you can, get a hold of one and use it for a couple of days or even weeks. I'll bet you will buy one... Vic
Re: AW: Pentax's dSLR future?
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: AW: Pentax's dSLR future? Speaking of lens compatibility issues, has anyone noticed that Canon's new EF-S lens for the 300D isn't compatible with *any* older Canon cameras, even the D30, D60 and 10D which also use APS-sized sensors?! Yup. The general concensus over at the CUG is that it's no big deal. William Robb
Re: Just one tip
On some jobs, just getting a shot or two that can be considered decisive or definitive moments can be enough to earn a living. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just one tip Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:46:18 +1000 I totally agree graywolf, which is why I think my strike rate needs improving. At the moment, like I mentioned, I am getting probably 18 salable images from a roll of 24 exposure film. Of those, probably 4 of the rejects are due to eyes closing/subject moving etc. The two remaining are usually rejects due to being underexposed, or out of focus etc. Even though the bulk of the rejects are usually due to the subject did something the photographer has no control over, I still consider this my fault as I should be able to predict or at least anticipate these things, and make allowances for it. I still stand by my original goal - when I get to consistentantly producing 22 salable shots per 24 roll, I will be happy to some degree with my own competency level. But until then, I still think, basically that I'm not worthy of people's tan. - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Just one tip Maybe I should clarify this. I am speaking specifically about event photography. graywolf wrote: You were thinking of works of art, Tanya is thinking of salable pictures. There is a big difference. Any pro who does not get a salable picture with every shot except where the subject did something the photographer has no control over is not very competent. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway. _ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx
Re: Dynamic Range
Yes, Herb. I agree that the term dynamic range is used in all sorts of places where the word dynamic is being abused (my opinion). Similar linguistic travesties are happening in my disciplines as well. Yes, I'm aware nothing can be done about it. When the term biodegradable came on the scene, I was appalled. From it's roots, it actually means capable of degrading, abasing, humiliating or wearing down life. Now we're stuck with it. The term was generated by Madison Ave. We should be able to do better. Again, All sorts of things have range. What ranges are dynamic, what ranges are not, and, more importantly, why? What's the principle for applying the adjective dynamic? Why would we ever name something that is actually static, dynamic? Just because it's a spatial analog of something that is actually dynamic? This is a philosophical discussion, Herb. Not an argument about what is. I have a Dalmatian. He has spots. The pattern is very much like noise. I wonder, what the dynamic range of his coat is. Regards, Bob... They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken. From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] you've heard of spatial frequency response? doesn't involve time. otherwise known as lens resolution. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah... Are all ranges dynamic? So what ranges are dynamic, and, more importantly, why?
Re: AW: Pentax's dSLR future?
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mark Roberts Speaking of lens compatibility issues, has anyone noticed that Canon's new EF-S lens for the 300D isn't compatible with *any* older Canon cameras, even the D30, D60 and 10D which also use APS-sized sensors?! Yup. The general concensus over at the CUG is that it's no big deal. What? They haven't raised hell about impending doom and the upcoming obsolescence of all their current equipment?! What's wrong with those people??? ;) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Some lens testing controversy the *ist D
One mean lens, the 1.7AF TC behind it just showed more detail. Thanks for your answers, Rob. drool Another question: What is the filter thread diameter? Thanks. Fred
Re: Happy New Year from Australia
Lol Tanya! Just this afternoon a mate was telling me how I wasn't 'geek enough' (it's very hard to prove you're a bit of a geek to an IT administrator.. sigh); he was showing me how to use IrfanView, a pretty capable freeware slideshow viewer and was nagging me to reorganise my toolbars to maximise space and become a 'power user'.. But then again he's a pretty strange version of a geek, well rounded in extra curricular- not long after I listened to his little lecture, I learnt that his evening plans included an obscure Doof party somewhere in the sticks! Myself.. I guess I'm getting lazy party-wise. Been having a fantastic week with blading, swimming, rockclimbing and barbies that it just occured to me I may be on some sort of timelag (partied Xmas long before Xmas too). Anyhoo, it's still all good, and a cursory glance at my event calendar for January sees enough activity to make up for my languor tonight :-) And to all the other Aussie PDMLers (except you WA slow pokes), isn't 2004 just looking lurvely! *hic* :-) Happy new year again everyone! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 12:57 AM Subject: Re: Happy New Year from Australia What a bunch of party animals we Aussie PDML'ers seem to be! An hour or so into the New Year, and where are we? Not revelling, not partying, not a drunken mess passed out on a footpath somewhere - noo, us dedicated Pentaxians are sitting here in front of our 'puters talking about camera gear, and setting a very responsible example to the rest of the world! lol. So far, Kevin, Ryan, Rob and myself have posted, so that doesn't leave many Aussies on list! The rest are probably snoring their heads off or seeing in the New Year like normal people. We know who'll be having the best kind of day tomorrow though don't we?! vbg tan.
Re: Q: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
On 31 Dec 2003 at 10:34, Boris Liberman wrote: So, finally here is the question g: what is better: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600 scanned and turned b/w digitally? I'd go with the TMZ or Delta 3200, shoot it at 1600 (one stop push) and it will provide a pretty usable contrast range. One last detail, the resulting shots are going to be 4x6 unless I manage to produce something they'd ask me to enlarge. I just printed a set of prints at 11x14 off D3200 shot at 1600 and developed in T-MAX (band shot under crap parra-floods), the grain is visible but it's far from objectionable. At a suitable viewing distance the grain disappears. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
Boris, I recently did exactly what you are planning and experimented at a friends wedding, knowing that they had already hired another photographer for their formal shots. I decided to have a play and used Fuji Press Pro 800. The resulting grain was a pain in the butt. It wasn't significant enough to look artsy but was too much to look good. Also, the skin tones were TERRIBLE. My bride looked blotchy and even as though she had a fake tan in places, whereas shots I had just taken on a different camera with the same light and equivalent exposure with Fuji NPH 400 (my fav. wedding film), looked gorgeous. I have never used the TMAX film, but I wouldn't recommend shooting anything for a wedding with film faster than 400 unless you are going for a REALLY artsy look and using the grain for its creative/artistic merits. And don't even think about group or family photos, as you can just about guarantee that people will want enlargements of these, which will of course look shocking with the grain. My preference would be to take a tripod and shoot with a 400 speed film. If you look here, I did exactly this for this wedding, which was another friends and at which I also let myself do a little experiment. These shots were shot handheld (and leaning against poles/church pews etc in place of a tripod) using only available light, in a dark church with a 135mm prime lens, and T400cn film. Not what I would refer to as my best work, but an interesting experiment nonetheless... http://www.tanyamayer.com/themarriage/churchbellsaringin/churchbellsaringin.html Good-luck! tan.
RE: COMPLETELY OT, but relevant to New Year's Eve...
-- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:37 PM -- -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- PS: only joking, of course. My New Years Eve will consist -- of having a few -- stouts, eating chips, watching TV, and falling asleep at -- around 11:30 (just -- like every other year g). -- -- For the first time in a while I have a fairly elaborate NYE planned. -- -- We've reserved a birdcage. -- -- We have a restaurant here in DC that serves asian food, and they have -- a giant birdcage suspended above the floor. #7, myself, and 4 friends -- somehow managed to reserve it, so we will be eating pad thai 20 feet -- off the floor. -- -- I hope I don't get seasick. -- -- #7 wants to clubbing afterwards, but the rest of us are comparatively -- old farts, so we'll see. -- -- Last year I carded negs. -- -- tv -- You will have to let us know which year was better for you... César Panama City, Florida
Re: HNY
Hi, Wednesday, December 31, 2003, 3:06:42 PM, you wrote: On a side note, I can almost feel how serous is the effect that Grinwich has on Englanders... At least on some of them that are members of this list... That'll be Bob W ;-) I never know what day it is. Living so close to the cosmic gravito-temporal vortex really messes with your circadian rhythms. That's why I can't get out of bed in the morning. Is it New Year again already? Have a happy one! Bob
RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
I know Eleanor. She is too sweet. I would spare her life :-) Reminds me that I should answer her post, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:57 PM -- -- If he tells you, he'll have to kill you. :-) -- -- Bill -- -- - Original Message - -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Cesar wrote .. -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being identified as a spook on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor in the hospital] -- [remarks about having stories from the teaching hospital] -- -- OK, Cesar, I give up: -- What DO you do??? -- -- ERN
OT: Film refrigeration/ film loading
Just got a question which I hope doesn't sound too silly. If you store 35mm film in the fridge (in a reasonably humid country), when taken out, how long would one normally wait before loading the camera? Has anyone here had a bad experience with condensation during the loading process? In a bit of a rush just now I may have hurried it.. Thanks, Ryan
RE: *istD tally
Count me in on that tally if it matters! I just returned back to the list after a long break. Cheers! -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 5:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:*istD tally Since the *istD was released, I have tried to keep track of PDML'ers who have bought the camera. I have no idea if my list is complete, but so far it counts 55 names! Impressive, imo. Cheers, Jostein -
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
Kostas posted Not all. The cripple mount MZs do body-mounted aperture control. Not sure about the -6, the -7 or the -10. The -10 can do both. Haven't tried the -6 and -7.
RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
Do you mean for money? :-) Actually I am an electrical engineer by education. A field engineer. More so, a radar engineer, though I consider myself as a systems engineer with as much as I get into and know. It usually surprises people when I tell them. I wonder why... Around here I am usually introduced as a photographer. Happened once as I was with Minolta Girl at a wine/art fest at a gallery. A mutual photographer friend introduced me to one of her friends as a photographer. Well Minolta Girl had to speak up to say she was a photographer too! We still get a kick out of that one. You probably don't want to hear the list of professions I have been linked to, César Panama City, Florida P.S. Maybe at GFMtn :-) -- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:56 PM -- -- Cesar wrote .. -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being identified as a spook on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor in the hospital] -- [remarks about having stories from the teaching hospital] -- -- OK, Cesar, I give up: -- What DO you do??? -- -- ERN -- --
Re: OT: 2004!
T minus 6:40 and counting... ;-) All the best for 2004! Thomas Ryan Lee schrieb: Hey List! 30 minutes into 2004, greeted by a bit of a firework display here in Brisbane, Australia.. Boy do they love their pyrotechnics here.. Anyways Happy New Year All!! Looking good here in 2004, how's 2003 going for the rest of youse? Happy days.. :-) Best Regards, Ryan
White Balance
Good Point! I haven't seen much on the list in the way of managing the white balance for the *istDers. Since my purchase of a few weeks ago, I've kept it on automatic white balance. Does anyone here actively change their white balance specific to their subjects or lighting? Any thoughts are welcome here. Have a great day, Jeff -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Just one tip Kevin Waterson wrote: If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be? With the *ist D, check your ISO and white balance before you start shooting. Bill
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
On: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 23:48:20 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In its present configuration its still a snapshot camera., referring to the istD. Paul - I use my istD for snapshots, but it's a heck of a lot more than a snapshot camera. I'm not sure what you meant by the above comment. Are you referring to the 6 Mpixl slr's in general? The Canon, Nikon and Pentax are all pretty similar. Or are you referring to something specific about this camera? See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net
It's all in the family.
Interesting story concerning my relationship with a local photo store/developer... I have been frequenting this store for more years than I wish to recall :-) I have gotten to know the owner and all the employees - a small store. Over time I have worked the counter for them, helped them in sales, transcribed development orders and such. I am allowed in the lab anytime I wish. The owner changed the policy about people in the back a little while ago. But he then proceeded to invite me back there whenever. For the past few years the owner has invited me to their year-end holiday party at his place. I have yet to attend and always thought I would be the odd man out. I was in there yesterday chatting with the lab technicians for a bit - actually went in to pick up some 645 prints, and left without them... [There is another story in there about developing and customer's expectations that we talked about as they were printing and retouching - but for another time] Anyhow, one lab tech asked if I was attending the party. Then she asked if I had been invited - she just assumed that I had. I told her I did not know if I would attend... She kept at it in terms of telling me of the fun they have with the slideshow they put up and all. This was interspersed with other talk. It just surprised me that they wanted me there. I guess I am just like family there :-) Saw her taking shots of me so I figure I will be in the slideshow now. I think I have to attend now, César Panama City, Florida P.S. O.T. Similar to the local Ford car dealer. I was talking with the manager yesterday when a salesman called to him. The salesman quickly apologized when he noticed me. The manager told him not to worry it was just César - like family. Maybe that is why they allow me to go to the parts department in the back beyond the Employees Only Beyond This Point door. Just about all the managers know me there and some of the mechanics, along with the parts personnel and cashiers.
Re: White Balance
I try and remember to turn mine to auto when I'm done shooting for the current session just in case an op shows up unexpectedly. When shooting, I try and match the white balance to the current conditions. When shooting indoors without flash, I'll do a test shot or two with the default balances for the current lighting, and if the review isn't to my satisfaction, I'll set the white balance manually using a sheet of Epson Premium Glossy paper that I use for printing. Bill - Original Message - From: Jeff Geilenkirchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: White Balance Good Point! I haven't seen much on the list in the way of managing the white balance for the *istDers. Since my purchase of a few weeks ago, I've kept it on automatic white balance. Does anyone here actively change their white balance specific to their subjects or lighting? Any thoughts are welcome here. Have a great day, Jeff -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just one tip Kevin Waterson wrote: If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be? With the *ist D, check your ISO and white balance before you start shooting. Bill
RE: White Balance
Since I often take available light shots I do change the white balance often. Since I am pushing towards shooting more RAW images it will not be as important as with jpegs. I tend to use manual quite often with mised lighting. I have not really tried it out in different lighting conditions in automatic. Not that I do not trust it, just the type of photographer I am. I try to minimize any post processing if I am shooting jpegs. I still have not gotten a workflow with RAW yet. César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Jeff Geilenkirchen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 11:22 AM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: White Balance -- -- -- Good Point! I haven't seen much on the list in the way of -- managing the -- white balance for the *istDers. Since my purchase of a few -- weeks ago, I've -- kept it on automatic white balance. Does anyone here -- actively change their -- white balance specific to their subjects or lighting? Any -- thoughts are -- welcome here. -- -- Have a great day, -- -- Jeff -- -- -Original Message- -- From:Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent:Monday, December 29, 2003 8:46 PM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Just one tip -- -- -- -- Kevin Waterson wrote: -- -- If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding -- photography, -- what would it be? -- -- -- With the *ist D, check your ISO and white balance before you -- start shooting. -- -- Bill -- --
Re: Just one tip
Tanya I'll go on record as agreeing with the sentiment that your keeper rate goal is unrealistic, for event photography. 22 out of 24 for formal studio work I could buy, but not shooting an event. Unless you're a telepath or psychic you can't anticipate everybody's every move. And you do good work. There is no reason to apologies to your self for not being good enough or to think you're not worthy of your fee. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: White Balance
I have never used auto white balance, except in the first few shots when the camera was new. I use the presets quite often, and custom settings in odd lighting conditions where there is a mix of fluorescent and incandescent, or different types of fluorescents mixed. Quoting Jeff Geilenkirchen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good Point! I haven't seen much on the list in the way of managing the white balance for the *istDers. Since my purchase of a few weeks ago, I've kept it on automatic white balance. Does anyone here actively change their white balance specific to their subjects or lighting? Any thoughts are welcome here. Have a great day, Jeff -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just one tip Kevin Waterson wrote: If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be? With the *ist D, check your ISO and white balance before you start shooting. Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
RE: Happy New Year from Australia
Lol Tanya! Just this afternoon a mate was telling me how I wasn't 'geek enough' (it's very hard to prove you're a bit of a geek to an IT administrator.. sigh); he was showing me how to use IrfanView, a pretty capable freeware slideshow viewer Ryan, I've been using Irfanview for years and I love it. And apparently it's one of the few slideshow viewers that supports RAW, so now my hubby uses it too. :)
Re: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't recommend shooting anything for a wedding with film faster than 400 unless you are going for a REALLY artsy look ...or unless you're shooting medium format. ;-) It recently occurred to me that this is probably the real reason digital is replacing medium format in wedding photography: A lot of wedding photographers were shooting medium format not for its inherently higher resolution, but for its finer grain (relative to print size) with high speed films. The low noise of DSLRs at ISO 800 pretty much takes care of this issue. TV, do you think this is the case? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: 2004 fireworks
Hi Kevin, I don't know your exposure times, but if you take a long time exposure, say 15 seconds with noise reduction on, the camera needs a time as long as the exposure itself to calculate noise reduction. Writung adds to that but should be the minor part of the process. All the best for 2004! Thomas T minus 6:07 and counting... ;-) Herb Chong schrieb: how many shots in a burst? faster memory cards help. Herb... - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: 2004 fireworks I also found with the *istD the delays storing the images most annoying. Missed alot of possible shots.
Re: OT: Film refrigeration/ film loading
Usually a couple of hours should do the trick, maybe a bit less depending on the temp in the fridge and the ambient temperature. Here's a trick a photog friend taught me: touch the film container to your cheek. If it doesn't feel cold, it should be OK to load and shoot. Ryan Lee wrote: Just got a question which I hope doesn't sound too silly. If you store 35mm film in the fridge (in a reasonably humid country), when taken out, how long would one normally wait before loading the camera? Has anyone here had a bad experience with condensation during the loading process? In a bit of a rush just now I may have hurried it.. Thanks, Ryan
Re: Just one tip
- but as Tom said anything less than 100% means that I am incompetent as a photographer. What do you (and others) think IS a realistic goal to aim for? It partly depends on the usage of the images. I was taking some shots of honey bees for a local beekeeper. I was using an MZ-S with Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro and either FG360 flash or a manual ringflash. It was quite a difficult subject what with the bees moving, trying to get the right angle, and me being in a beekeeper's outfit with the netting, gloves, and such like. Bracketting was out of the question. I took 2 films of 36 exposures, and from a photographic perspective considered I had 3 keepers, one of which has actually done quite well for me in a number of competitions. However the beekeeper was delighted with about 50 of the slides and uses them in his lectures about bees. You see, the ones I considered poor photographically due to the bee being partly out of focus actually were good for him as they showed the number of hairs on the legs or some other such feature. When taking close-up natural history shots, particularly insect, I'm happy with just 1 or 2 keepers from a roll. Cheers Nick
RE: HNY
This is really funnyI thought Nate and I were going to have a quiet, boring New Year's at home, and then I just got an email from a friend asking for directions to our place and what should he bring. Whoops! Seems we had a communication error with another friend! So it looks like we're having people over tonight after all. :) Hope everyone has a safe and happy one... Amita
Re: Pentax Camera Data Back FD for sale.
Hello all Pentaxians, Item for sale: Pentax Camera Data Back FD in Brand New Perfect Condition !! It comes with the original Box, Instruction Paper and the Battery... There is not even one tiny scratch on this item, it's as new as when I got it less than a year ago. Although it is the Data Back designed for the PZ-1 / Z-1, I bought it for my PZ-1p (that I just sold) and it works perfectly, however, in Panorama mode the info is still in the same position on the film since the PZ-1 /Z-1 cameras do not have the Panorama mode. I never used Panorama mode on my PZ-1p anyways and very few photographers do. ASKING: $75 US and $10 shipping to anywhere in the USA or Canada. PHOTOs available! Will e-mail upon request. Ryan __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: HNY
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really funnyI thought Nate and I were going to have a quiet, boring New Year's at home, and then I just got an email from a friend asking for directions to our place and what should he bring. Whoops! Seems we had a communication error with another friend! So it looks like we're having people over tonight after all. :) Hope everyone has a safe and happy one... OK everyone! Party at Amita's place tonight! Woo hoo! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Magnon lenses
I wrote: There were two versions of Magnons. The earlier Neanderons are less desirable than the later Cromagnons. Is that a joke? And if yes, is it yours or is it the company's? u, yeah - I just couldn't help myself !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote that he didn't see the concern about CF card slot or the AA batteries used in the istD. Frankly, I think most of the negative comments that I've read are a testament to the fact that there is not much to complain about on this camera. The CF card tightness issue seems to depend a bit on the card. I have a couple that slide right out into my hand, and a couple that stop about half way out. The design could have been better, but this isn't a big deal. My guess is the micro-drives experience the worst of it. As Rod says, easily fixed with a piece of tape. In my opinion, the use of AA's is not a negative but a big positive. I think the istD has the most versatile battery system of all the 6 Mp DSLR's. I fully admit that changing 4 AA's is a bit more cumbersome that sliding in a customer designed battery pack. For me, I'll gladly trade the flexibility for a little convenience. My complaint? That 4-way button on the back needs to be bigger or have a more positive feel. The other controls on this camera work so well. This one just doesn't fit in with the feel of the others. It's annoying. What do I want in the next generation? In general, I think the SLR makers are all going through a learning curve with the photographers. The adjustability of the digital camera is changing the thought. process. I think many of us are just starting to realize that cameras now have three exposure adjustments: shutter speed, aperture and ISO sensitivity. All three need to be quickly and easily adjustable and displayed in the viewfinder. When this generation of cameras was designed we all were thinking that ISO doesn't get changed very often. In the digital era, ISO is the third variable and can be considered on every shot. I also like one of Michael Riechman's comments on the histogram display. He recommended that the camera should display blown highlights with flashing pixels This would be pretty useful and I hope they make the change in a code update. I don't miss the mini-movie mode from Optio S, but I do miss the ability to record a comment with an image. I'd like to see that capability added. The argument about USB 1.1, 2.0 or Firewire doesn't interest me. If the only thing I can do with the comm port is download info from the card, you may as well leave it off. I find a card reader much more convenient and would rather have one less hole in the camera body. On the other hand, if I could use that port to control the camera with my computer, that would be great. See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net --
RE: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't recommend shooting anything for a wedding with film faster than 400 unless you are going for a REALLY artsy look ...or unless you're shooting medium format. ;-) It recently occurred to me that this is probably the real reason digital is replacing medium format in wedding photography: A lot of wedding photographers were shooting medium format not for its inherently higher resolution, but for its finer grain (relative to print size) with high speed films. The low noise of DSLRs at ISO 800 pretty much takes care of this issue. TV, do you think this is the case? I don't know that most people understand this issue until they actually own a DSLR. I think people who have no experience with a good dslr don't buy the lack of grain makes up for lack of resolution argument. But, it's probably one reason among several, and it's one of the bigger reason's I actually starting using digital for work. (I hadn't planned to use it for weddings when I bought it.) The fact that any of your shots can be color or b/w is a big one, as is the control you have over your proof sets, the ability to shoot as much as you want, reduced lab fees, easy online proofing tv
Re: OT: Photographer-Spies
You are the guy they made that movie about, right? The Pretender. -- Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I know Eleanor. She is too sweet. I would spare her life :-) Reminds me that I should answer her post, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 11:57 PM -- -- If he tells you, he'll have to kill you. :-) -- -- Bill -- -- - Original Message - -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Cesar wrote .. -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being identified as a spook on the Mayan dig] -- [story about being mistaken for a doctor in the hospital] -- [remarks about having stories from the teaching hospital] -- -- OK, Cesar, I give up: -- What DO you do??? -- -- ERN -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Happy New Year from Australia
Well, when your normal state is seven sheets to the wind. You have to stay sober for New Years. Otherwise it is just another day. GRIN Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: What a bunch of party animals we Aussie PDML'ers seem to be! An hour or so into the New Year, and where are we? Not revelling, not partying, not a drunken mess passed out on a footpath somewhere - noo, us dedicated Pentaxians are sitting here in front of our 'puters talking about camera gear, and setting a very responsible example to the rest of the world! lol. So far, Kevin, Ryan, Rob and myself have posted, so that doesn't leave many Aussies on list! The rest are probably snoring their heads off or seeing in the New Year like normal people. We know who'll be having the best kind of day tomorrow though don't we?! vbg tan. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Q: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600
Boris Liberman asked: My idea was to take the following kit: ZX-L, FA 50, F 85 soft, and AF 220 flash. I wanted to load it with some very fast film so that preferrably flash would not have to be used. And I wanted to do purely BW shooting. In my local store I can buy either Kodak TMAX 3200 (proper B/W film) or Fuji Press Pro 1600 (color C-41). I used Fuji to shoot basketball and was satisfied. However it is color. So, finally here is the question g: what is better: Kodak TMAX 3200 or Fuji Press Pro 1600 scanned and turned b/w digitally? I shoot Fuji 1600, but even with the improvements (when they replaced Super HQ with Press 1600), I've been gradually drifting away from it, using Press 800 whenever I can get away with one stop slower. I haven't tried scanning it and re-rendering it as black-and-white, so I can't do a direct comparison for you. But I can say that, at least the way the lab I use processes and prints it, I really love TMZ (TMax p3200) and Ilford Delta 3200. Thinking about the way a Press 1600 print looks and trying to imagine removing the colour, I have trouble believing I'd like that better than a good TMZ print. But one caveat: I _despise_ the look of TMZ when used with flash. Since your intent is to use it to avoid needing flash, that probably won't be an issue. I don't know where the wedding will be, but I know many churches are dim enough to want a film speed of 3200 or faster anyhow, at least with longish lenses. For 4x6 prints you'll get away with pushing TMZ to 12500 ASA if you have to, as long as you're careful to expose it properly at that speed. (For larger prints it's a matter of taste and composition. The grain will be pretty significant at 12500 in an 8x10. But I've quite been happy with 8x10 prints from TMZ at 6400 or 3200.) I don't know how difficult it is to get such good results from TMZ -- my lab said they use different developers for different speeds, and prefer to be able to take the lighting into account if the customer can tell them that, but TV developed some of my TMZ and he didn't make it sound like it was all that difficult with the rolls I gave him (but ask in case I've misremembered). When it comes to printing, you'll notice -- one lab I use does fine work with C41 and Tri-X, and I'd be happy with the prints they make off my TMZ negs if I didn't know that the other lab I use works _magic_ with the TMZ (and HIE) that I hand them. Oooh, thinking of HIE ... if there'll be outdoor (daytime) shots between the ceremony and the reception, plan to shoot some HIE! Even if you go so far as to shoot over the hired pro's shoulder, you won't be merely duplicating his effort, 'cause you'll get a completely different (and nifty) look. When I've shot weddings as a guest, folks have appreciated my catching the kinds of shots the hired photographer missed ... and most of those were missed because the hired photographer was getting shots on the Absolutely Must Get list at the time (only once was it because the hired fellow made poor choices). Since they've already got someone to get the Must Get shots, look for the it would be a shame to leave this out even though another shot is more important ones. -- Glenn
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
The comm port will be used for firmware upgrades, and I've heard that computer control is coming via a firmware update. Bill The argument about USB 1.1, 2.0 or Firewire doesn't interest me. If the only thing I can do with the comm port is download info from the card, you may as well leave it off. I find a card reader much more convenient and would rather have one less hole in the camera body. On the other hand, if I could use that port to control the camera with my computer, that would be great. See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net --
RE: PUG January is open
As ever, thanks Adelheid and Jostein for all the hard work involved in putting PUG together. Thanks for this month, and for the past year as well. Your endevour is appreciated! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Adelheid v. K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PUG January is open Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:12:29 +0100 Hi *, the January PUG is ready to go. The first PUG with a Themed and Open Section. Scroll down for the Open Gallery. Cheers Adelheid URL: http://pug.komkon.org/ -- About resizing your pics: To make the procedure easier I am going to resize them without further notice - but if somebody is unhappy with the result, please send me one you like better in the proper size and I'll swap it on the server. I hope this is a fair deal. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re[2]: Pentax's dSLR future?
Same here. My cards have a little tiny lip on the exposed side where I can fit a fingernail and just slide it right out. I suspect that some cards would be more difficult if the surface was completely smooth. Bruce Tuesday, December 30, 2003, 8:00:03 PM, you wrote: MC At 11:35 AM 12/31/2003 +1000, you wrote: The stupid design of the memory card access port is probably another compromise due to the design size constraints. Unfortunately the *ist D review on luminous- landscape (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-istd.shtml) highlights these problems and others and for the first occasion I tend to agree with Mr Reichmann. MC I really don't understand the hoo-ha about the CF card slot on the MC *ist-D. After pressing the eject button, my cards slide right out with a MC little assist from right thumb. I've read complaints that you can't grasp MC the cards and pull it out - but you don't _need_ to grasp it to pull it out... MC - MCC MC - MC Mark Cassino Photography MC Kalamazoo, MI MC http://www.markcassino.com MC -
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, John Francis wrote: In any case, think of it as the final model in the old MZ/ZX range (which includes the ZX-5n and ZX-3); very capable cameras, but which all use the lens aperture ring, not body-mounted aperture controls. Not all. The cripple mount MZs do body-mounted aperture control. Not sure about the -6, the -7 or the -10. Yes. That's why I said old MZs; Pentax didn't change the nomenclature when they switched to the new MZs. Vey confusing.
BH Customer Service Rocks
OK, so some of you may have read my recent post. I ordered a lens (FA* 28-70 f/2.8) from BH. It came overnight, was in the original box, looked as new, but was missing the hood, a $75 touch. I had, of course, no way to prove that the lens was without a hood, so, having dealt with poor customer service before (though not from BH), was slightly concerned about the likelihood of getting them to see my side. This morning, I called Israel Hartman (sp?), the used equipment manager, who was insanely busy on this last day before the New Year. He looked up my order, said, there is no question that you deserve it, put me on hold while he walked to the warehouse and retrieved the hood from the other used lens they had in stock, returned to the phone, and said I've got it in my hand as I speak. He verified my shipping info and sent it by UPS Express to me at no cost. I know what many of you will say, and you are right. This is the way retailers, particularly those doing business over the internet, where their customers buy on faith of the retailer's word, SHOULD operate. However, the reality is that many retailers wouldn't and don't. After it had all gone through, I asked him, Why did you take my word on this? How do you know I'm not just trying to get a free hood out of you? He said, Because mose people are honest. Only a few are crooks. But very few crooks target used lens hoods. If some do, then it's just the cost of doing business. Bottom line: BH, from whom I have purchased three expensive lenses and a Domke bag with only this one wrinkle, have come through. I have no hesitation in recommending them. Happy New Year, all. Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: OT: 2004!
Dunno! I still have 14 hours to go in '03, so ANYthing could happen! I will drag out my Optio S4 and see if some opportunities avail themselves. . . I suspect we won't quite make it to the stroke of midnight. Not with a bottle of fine Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin '96 - Brut under our respective belts. And -- that's half a bottle, by the way. Start with a fine chardonnay, but always end up with the bubbly. g Our very best for the new year, for all Pentaxians. . .wherever you are! Keith Whaley GMT -0800 hours (Okay, UTC -0800 hours) Ryan Lee wrote: Hey List! 30 minutes into 2004, greeted by a bit of a firework display here in Brisbane, Australia.. Boy do they love their pyrotechnics here.. Anyways Happy New Year All!! Looking good here in 2004, how's 2003 going for the rest of youse? Happy days.. :-) Best Regards, Ryan
Re: OT: Film refrigeration/ film loading
Hi! RL Just got a question which I hope doesn't sound too silly. If you store 35mm RL film in the fridge (in a reasonably humid country), when taken out, how long RL would one normally wait before loading the camera? Has anyone here had a bad RL experience with condensation during the loading process? In a bit of a rush RL just now I may have hurried it.. Ryan, Israel is reasonably to very humid country. Normally I load my films something between 20 minutes to one hour after I take them out of the fridge. I have to say that I store my films in fridge, and *not* in freezer. So far I never observed any ill effects. HTH. Boris
Re: Happy New Year from Australia
It is because of our kids that all that we do on a daily basis becomes worthwhile... ... so anyone without kids leads a shallow, worthless existence?
Re[2]: My first photography lessons
Hello Lon, Coming from the old school of match needles as yourself, I want my cameras to have a similar capability when in manual mode. The *istD, MZ-S, PZ-1p and I think most of the ZX line all use a scale that works just about the same. I personally almost never use exposure compensation, but just work from the meter reading in manual mode. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, December 31, 2003, 3:14:49 AM, you wrote: LW I think this is one of the reasons I like match needle meters. LW No need to use a dial to compensate, other than aperature or LW shutter. I understand some of the modern cameras do pretty LW well with their LCD/LED displays, also. LW -Lon LW Bob W wrote: Hi, With an automatic camera you have to set exposure compensation. For some strange reason I keep forgetting to turn that back to normal. Freudian block against automatic cameras I guess. this is typical for anything with 'modes'. People always tend to forget what mode their equipment is in, and this leads to errors. Standard piece of human factors information. I also tend to forget to change exposure compensation back; same with spot-metering on the camera. Forgetting to set it back has caused me far too many exposure errors. Modes are bad.
Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year
On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 09:05:18AM +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Ok, guys, maybe this is the inexperience coming out in me again, BUT, I don't get this photo. Technically, how is it possible? I mean if those shots truly showed the sun, then how did it manage to show it as a perfect little circle with no flare/rays etc? AFAIK, the guy shot one exposure to get the foreground. The rest of the exposures, of the sun. were done with a solar filter, small f-stop and fast shutter, so the light from the foreground scenery as insufficient to exposure the film. Other than that no manipulation was done. -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l
RE: Another Convert ( was Re: GFM and a CRAPPY weekend...)
That's great, Peter, IIRC, around 14 was when I too wanted and got a serious camera. It was a Japanese rangefinder, match-needle metering, 2.8 40mm lens. Started with a T, but I can't remember the manufacturer anymore. Took me a couple of years before I graduated to an SLR (until I got my first part time job, and bought it myself). And, the ME Super is a great first camera, too!! Glad to hear your son is enjoying it already. Look forward to seeing him on PUG!! vbg Happy New Years, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another Convert ( was Re: GFM and a CRAPPY weekend...) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:35:43 - Tanya, I suspect you had a hectic Christmas with your youngsters at the ages they are. I remember when ours were that age, they got so excited just before Christmas I thought they were going to explode! My mob are a bit older and my 14 year old asked for a proper camera for Christmas. The look of joy on his face when he opened his ME-Super on Christmas morning was a delight and I found it interesting at Christmas lunch to see my role as candid snapper usurped by him. His enthusiasm was such that we ran out of print film on boxing day and I had to order another 20 rolls on Monday! He has snaffled a flash gun already and it is only a matter of time before some of my other lenses walk to his room. However his enthusiasm had limits. It is cold and crisp here at the moment, but I couldn't persuade him to leave his bed at 7 this morning to go and catch the pre dawn light at a loch a few miles up the road. I shivered in the minus 8 cold while he snored away. If we start seeing messages on the list wrtn as txt, then you'll know he's arrived here as well. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
Cesar, I notice that many of your stories (sorry, recollections, as I'm sure they're all true g) involve young ladies. Or at least ladies: Olga at the race Photo lab tech making sure you come to the New Years party Minolta Girl Doctor at the teaching hospital etc. etc. How do you do it? Should I cover my LX in snakeskin too? signed, Tentative in Toronto The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:10:05 -0500 Do you mean for money? :-) Actually I am an electrical engineer by education. A field engineer. More so, a radar engineer, though I consider myself as a systems engineer with as much as I get into and know. It usually surprises people when I tell them. I wonder why... Around here I am usually introduced as a photographer. Happened once as I was with Minolta Girl at a wine/art fest at a gallery. A mutual photographer friend introduced me to one of her friends as a photographer. Well Minolta Girl had to speak up to say she was a photographer too! We still get a kick out of that one. You probably don't want to hear the list of professions I have been linked to, César Panama City, Florida P.S. Maybe at GFMtn :-) -- _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: OT: Tomorrow I hit the road......
Anthony, Have a Great Trip. Take lots of piccies. Happy New Year, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Tomorrow I hit the road.. Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:22:40 +1100 . to Melbourne with my family. With luck, it'll be a quiet day on the Deadly Hume Hwy, with all of tonight's revellers hiding indoors behind drawn blinds, unable to face the hard light of day lest their heads should explode (been there but not this year, especially with a 1,000km drive in front of me). Happy New Year, see you in about 10 days. regards, Anthony Farr _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Just one tip
I bracket in 1/3 or 1/2 stops when I shoot cars on transparency film. Half a stop can make a considerable difference in color accuracy and saturation. When I shoot fashion or portraits with studio lights I use negative film, and I don't bracket. With negative film a half a stop plus or minus doesn't matter a hoot. When I shoot on the street with my Leica screwmount camera I don't even meter, save perhaps once for general reference in shadows or interiors. When I shoot on the street with my LX I use aperture priority autoexposure, but I keep an eye on the light and use exposure compensation as needed. So I guess I'd have to say that I bracket only on those rare occasions where it's necessary to get a perfect exposure on transparency film. On Dec 31, 2003, at 12:49 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bracketing? What do you photograph that you've got time to bracket exposures? Are you using one of those new cameras with automatic bracketing, that do it all for you electronically? If so, what's changed when the camera brackets - aperture or shutter speed? BTW, your band camp intro is really annoying after all this time ;-)) scb Kevin Waterson wrote: I still go with that, sometimes 2 per roll if its a good day. For me, a roll of 36 is only 13 shots with bracketing. Of those, 1-2 is usually printable. annsan replies to shel I bracket changing aperature 1 stop up one stop down - when shooting slide film on the road in a natural surrounding... or when I'm not sure what I want to concentrate on, and when the light meter I'm using seems to be disagreeing with my instinct... sometimes I bracket up and down more than that. Not with every thing I shoot of course. If something is really captivating I bracket and change filters, too - as quickly as I can, so I can decide what effect I like best in a leisurely fashion. Kevin , I'm guessing , is a nature photog :) annsan
RE: Just one tip
That is a freaking amazing shot, tom! You're being modest with your comment re: that's not the greatest shot in the world (which of course it's not, but it's pretty damned good in my books!) You are, however, being honest when you say it's what makes you you. It's typical of what I've seen of your wedding work, and it's what sets you apart from the run-of-the-mill hacks out there. Wonderful work, that. (loved the one with the kids, BTW) cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip http://www.bigdayphoto.com/larson/after/larson-0521bwj.htm Well, crap, I wasted 5 frames looking for that one. Now my ratio is in the toilet. Now, that's not the greatest shot in the world, but that's the sort of shot that makes me me, whatever that's worth. It's a little detail that sets off the other shots, adds a little variety. The other 2 shots are more interesting set next to that one. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: OT: Film refrigeration/ film loading
On 31/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just got a question which I hope doesn't sound too silly. If you store 35mm film in the fridge (in a reasonably humid country), when taken out, how long would one normally wait before loading the camera? Has anyone here had a bad experience with condensation during the loading process? In a bit of a rush just now I may have hurried it.. In the days when i used film from the fridge If in a desperate hurry and no alternative available, i would pull it from the fridge - or even the freezer - still in plastic cannister, and conceal it somewhere about the person that's really really warm. After I had stopped hopping about the room, open the cannister and hey presto! Load the film. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
On 31/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Actually I am an electrical engineer by education. A field engineer. More so, a radar engineer, though I consider myself as a systems engineer with as much as I get into and know. It usually surprises people when I tell them. I wonder why... Around here I am usually introduced as a photographer. Happened once as I was with Minolta Girl at a wine/art fest at a gallery. A mutual photographer friend introduced me to one of her friends as a photographer. Well Minolta Girl had to speak up to say she was a photographer too! We still get a kick out of that one. You probably don't want to hear the list of professions I have been linked to, César Panama City, Florida P.S. Maybe at GFMtn :-) Hail Cesar, I mean hey Cesar, Forgive me - how do you pronounce your name? Is it see'zur or is it chay'sur? Can I just call you Radar? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: PUG January is open
On 31/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: As ever, thanks Adelheid and Jostein for all the hard work involved in putting PUG together. Thanks for this month, and for the past year as well. Your endevour is appreciated! cheers, frank Yes, I will second that ! As Harry said in Third Rock from the Sun: 'a job well done... (he was referring to bringing Man the gift of electricity, and was told by Dick that Man already had electricity...) THANKS ADELHEID! THANKS JOSTEIN! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Just one tip
I have to agree with Frank. Great shot. I don't know exactly why it's great, but it's one of those I wish I had taken. Nice work. On Dec 31, 2003, at 3:25 PM, frank theriault wrote: That is a freaking amazing shot, tom! From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip http://www.bigdayphoto.com/larson/after/larson-0521bwj.htm Well, crap, I wasted 5 frames looking for that one. Now my ratio is in the toilet. Now, that's not the greatest shot in the world, but that's the sort of shot that makes me me, whatever that's worth. It's a little detail that sets off the other shots, adds a little variety. The other 2 shots are more interesting set next to that one. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en- caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgma rket%3den-ca
Re: OT: Film refrigeration/ film loading
Damn Cotty, I do the same thing! I just tuck mine inwell, never mind. But it's easy to warm it up in a hurry. I've gone right from the frig to shooting without any noticeable problems. On Dec 31, 2003, at 3:34 PM, Cotty wrote: On 31/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Just got a question which I hope doesn't sound too silly. If you store 35mm film in the fridge (in a reasonably humid country), when taken out, how long would one normally wait before loading the camera? Has anyone here had a bad experience with condensation during the loading process? In a bit of a rush just now I may have hurried it.. In the days when i used film from the fridge If in a desperate hurry and no alternative available, i would pull it from the fridge - or even the freezer - still in plastic cannister, and conceal it somewhere about the person that's really really warm. After I had stopped hopping about the room, open the cannister and hey presto! Load the film. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: BH Customer Service Rocks
On 31/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: he walked to the warehouse and retrieved the hood from the other used lens they had in stock, returned to the phone, and said I've got it in my hand as I speak. He verified my shipping info and sent it by UPS Express to me at no cost. Hey, I just ordered that lens!!! ;-) Bottom line: BH, from whom I have purchased three expensive lenses and a Domke bag with only this one wrinkle, have come through. I have no hesitation in recommending them. Absolutely. I have bought new and used from them and they are pretty darned good. They have a reputation to consider and it's deserved. I wouldn't think twice before ordering again. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Happy New Year from Australia
From a genetic viewpoint they are sports. That includes me, BTW. -- John Francis wrote: It is because of our kids that all that we do on a daily basis becomes worthwhile... ... so anyone without kids leads a shallow, worthless existence? -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
honest retailer story part 2
Mike told of his quick problem resolution from BH and I thought I'd tell a similar story regarding Adorama. I ordered a bunch of Kodak slide mailers from them and I received one open sleeve that had a mailer missing. I e-mailed them and they immediately replied and asked me if I wanted the mailer or a credit. I told them a credit would be fine and I'd reorder the mailer next time. They credited my account that same afternoon. No hassles, no arguing, just very fast friendly service. Tom Reese
Re: PUG January is open
I've spent just a few minutes in the PUG, but I have to say that it's really a great one. My first WOW, I WISH I'D SHOT THAT! is for William Sawyer's Whitetail doe in the snow. A fabulous image, Bill. Hope you have it up for sale on some high dollar stock house. Paul
Re: Just one tip
What percentage of your photographs a technically acceptable? Should be close to 100%. Anyone's who is not getting that needs to work on it (of course I have reached the point where I can blame it on senility, but that beats blaming the camera grin). A photo that grabs your guts? That is a lot harder to get. -- frank theriault wrote: Mr. Rittenhouse (I think) has already said it, but maybe it bears repeating: It's one thing for a fashion or studio photographer to realistically want or expect a near 100% hit rate (that's a new term for me). It's quite another thing for a nature photographer (especially one shooting unpredictable animals) or a PJ or someone doing reportage to expect any more than a few shots per roll. Apples and Oranges. Personally, if I get a couple of decent shots per roll, I'm happy. If I get an absolute Zinger, I'm ecstatic! Some rolls are better than others - the subject matter was just there or for whatever reason, I was in a groove, and just seeing things well, if you know what I mean. I shot a roll last March where almost 1/2 were keepers; maybe my best day ever! Then again, right now, the vast majority of what I do is street photography (doesn't count snaps of the kids). Were I a wedding photographer, I'm sure a couple of shots a roll wouldn't make me happy. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Just one tip Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:25:02 -0800 Natinal Geographic is, therefore, full of incompetent photographers. Perhaps that gives you an idea of the weight you can attach to Tom's opinion on that issue. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Happy New Year from Australia
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is because of our kids that all that we do on a daily basis becomes worthwhile... ... so anyone without kids leads a shallow, worthless existence? Well *I* do. At least now I know why! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax's dSLR future?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/30/2003 2:09:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But Canon changed the mount for technical improvements, pentax hasnt changed the mount for technical improvements, they just abandoned a still very possible feature. JCO I am still not sure that we actually KNOW that. I'm betting it *was* for technical reasons regarding new technology to come. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
