Re: 645D - more pictures

2005-03-18 Thread Jostein

Are there any other 645 makes that don't have an awful telescope eyepiece?

Jostein

Quoting Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The prism housing overhang on the C body isn't near as bad as I expected
 but 
 they still all have that awful telescope eyepiece from the 645 bodies.



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*istD toughness test :-)

2005-03-18 Thread Sylwiusz
Friend of my friend has accidentally left his *istD on the roof of his 
car and didn't noticed it till he drove 0.5 km. By that time 1.5 tons 
weighting car overran it... See how it looks here:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/26424/display/2774542
Lens is completely destroyed, but *istD survived and is still working 
having only a few scratches on its bottom :-)

--
Best regards
Sylwek


Re: *istD toughness test :-)

2005-03-18 Thread Jostein
I would have had that lens mount checked, If I was your friend...

Jostein

Quoting Sylwiusz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Friend of my friend has accidentally left his *istD on the roof of his 
 car and didn't noticed it till he drove 0.5 km. By that time 1.5 tons 
 weighting car overran it... See how it looks here:
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/26424/display/2774542
 Lens is completely destroyed, but *istD survived and is still working 
 having only a few scratches on its bottom :-)
 
 --
 Best regards
 Sylwek
 
 





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RE: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
 As will be the 22MP Mamiya ZD which will likely be in users hands well
before
 the Pentax offering and which has a well established user base as it
utilizes
 the excellent Mamiya 645AF lenses.
 
 
 Rob Studdert

The Mamiya ZD looks quite ugly... I wonder how do the Mamiya 645AF
lenses 
compare with the Pentax ones?

Antti-Pekka



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Re: Anachronistic Me

2005-03-18 Thread David Mann
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:14 AM, Tom C wrote:
I figure with an LS-9000 (assuming 4000 dpi) I should be getting 97Mp 
images.
At 3600ppi I get about 360Mb in 16-bit colour.  Your files will be 
bigger than this - better upgrade your computer :)

With Photoshop CS I'd recommend at least 2Gb for files of that size.  
I'm running comfortably with 3.

Did you get a lens with your 6x7?
Cheers,
- Brother Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Pentax Lens explosion on e-bay continues

2005-03-18 Thread David Mann
On Mar 18, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
It sucks. I remember the times when it was possible to get bargains
off ebay. K24/3.5 for $50, A50/1.4 for free after selling the body it
came with...
I got all of my lenses just by cruising around the local secondhand 
shops on a regular basis.  I've had some good buys over the years, but 
when I really think about it the best was the SMCP 35/3.5.  I picked it 
up for about NZ$100 which isn't a remarkable price at all, but for the 
money it's a brilliant lens.  And I haven't seen another bayonet one 
since.

Luckily I have all the lenses I need for now.
Me too... my problem is that I just don't use them enough.  But I'm 
taking a holiday in a week's time and the camera gear is coming with 
me!

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Sylwiusz
On 2005-03-18, at 00:23, Rob Studdert wrote:
I pretty much agree though I'm sure a lot of Canon DSLR have replaced 
MF gear
in studios too. My negativity stems from the likely assumption that 
few working
pros still use or would adopt a digital P645 kit over a top end Canon 
or back
for their old MF kit. Of all the studios I've visited and portrait 
sessions
I've attended I can't remember once seeing P645 as the camera of 
choice. P67
were a far more popular camera here, though Hasseys, Bronicas and 
Mamiyas made
up the vast bulk of MF bodies.
You're right Rob. But on the other side how many 645 AF Mamiyas have 
you seen in studios? I believe these are 6x7 Mamiyas that made them 
popular among Pros. This is rather field camera and I think it is even 
less popular than Pentax 645 and has much lesser choice of lenses - 
just 10 AF versions, while Pentax has 17 for 645 AF. Oh and older 
manual Pentax 645 lenses are fully compatible with 645 AF bodies, while 
Mamiya 645 AF can use their MF lenses only with stop down metering. So 
I believe Pentax 645 could be more interesting for pros because of 
wider choice of lenses.

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Best regards
Sylwek


Re: *istD toughness test :-)

2005-03-18 Thread Alan Chan
--- Sylwiusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Friend of my friend has accidentally left his *istD on the roof of his 
 car and didn't noticed it till he drove 0.5 km. By that time 1.5 tons 
 weighting car overran it... See how it looks here:
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/26424/display/2774542
 Lens is completely destroyed, but *istD survived and is still working 
 having only a few scratches on its bottom :-)

Now that's exactly what Pentax needed for advertising.

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Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Sylwiusz
On 2005-03-18, at 09:07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
The Mamiya ZD looks quite ugly...
Not only body, but their AF lenses are ugly too :-) Seriously - most of 
Mamiya's 645AF lenses have one ergonomic flaw - focusing ring is as 
thin as on old SMC-F lenses :-( Compare it to wide, rubberized, 
comfortable focusing rings with focusing clutch on almost every 
currentPentax 645AF lens...

 I wonder how do the Mamiya 645AF
lenses compare with the Pentax ones?
Anybody dare to make some tests for us? ;-) We were talking about it 
with Rob too, but nothing is sure :-)

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Best regards
Sylwek


Re: *istD creation/modification dates

2005-03-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/3/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

EXIF explicitly says it adheres to FAT16 and FAT32. whether you like the 
spec or not, it is the spec, and all Windows computers get it right...

right up Gates' ass.




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Re: Potential buyrs of a D645? (Modified by Sylwiusz)

2005-03-18 Thread Sylwiusz
On 2005-03-18, at 09:07, Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
The Mamiya ZD looks quite ugly...
Not only body, but their AF lenses are ugly too :-) Seriously - most of 
Mamiya's 645AF lenses have one ergonomic flaw - focusing ring is as 
thin as on old SMC-F lenses :-( Compare it to wide, rubberized, 
comfortable focusing rings with focusing clutch on almost every 
currentPentax 645AF lens and you'll know what I mean...

 I wonder how do the Mamiya 645AF
lenses compare with the Pentax ones?
Anybody dare to make some tests for us? ;-) We were talking about it 
with Rob too, but nothing is sure :-)

--
Best regards
Sylwek


Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here

2005-03-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/3/05, Takehiko Ueda, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi all,

to be more spcific, the site which cotty referred to

http:dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html

says as follows;


'beside (the mock-ups), there's an inquiry as to your
impression from models A, B and C,and your opinion about
digital cameras.  lucky 3answerers will be given *ist-ds
(silver!) with da18-55al, optio750z or optlo wp.  the
iquiry is just for research purpose in development, not
the popularity contestg, and the result will not be
publicised.

hth

sincerely,

takehiko ueda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
osaka jpn

Thanks Take, here's a correct URL:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html




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Re: Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread dagt
 fra: Sylwiusz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 2005-03-18, at 00:23, Rob Studdert wrote:
 
  I pretty much agree though I'm sure a lot of Canon DSLR have replaced 
  MF gear
  in studios too. My negativity stems from the likely assumption that 
  few working
  pros still use or would adopt a digital P645 kit over a top end Canon 
  or back
  for their old MF kit. Of all the studios I've visited and portrait 
  sessions
  I've attended I can't remember once seeing P645 as the camera of 
  choice. P67
  were a far more popular camera here, though Hasseys, Bronicas and 
  Mamiyas made
  up the vast bulk of MF bodies.

 You're right Rob. But on the other side how many 645 AF Mamiyas have 
 you seen in studios? I believe these are 6x7 Mamiyas that made them 
 popular among Pros. This is rather field camera and I think it is even 
 less popular than Pentax 645 and has much lesser choice of lenses - 
 just 10 AF versions, while Pentax has 17 for 645 AF. Oh and older 
 manual Pentax 645 lenses are fully compatible with 645 AF bodies, while 
 Mamiya 645 AF can use their MF lenses only with stop down metering. So 
 I believe Pentax 645 could be more interesting for pros because of 
 wider choice of lenses.

I agree with you there.  My experience is that Mamiya 645 are made to be 
inexpencive but unreliable.  Among other things a friend of mines Mamiya passed 
out at temperatures below 0C.  My Bronica, another guys Pentax and a Hasselblad 
worked fine.  Because of this I'm not convinced about the quality.

We should also remember that both Kodak and Pentax have made dslrs before, 
while Mamiya hasn't. If Kodak and Pentax join forces they should be able to 
make a decent camera at a decent prise.  I know that Kodaks FF cameras have had 
their problems with image quality, but on the other hand some people are 
impressed by the dynamic range Pentax have got out of the CCD sensor in the Ds. 
 At jpg it is even better than Fuji S3, with RAW the S3 is slightly better.

DagT



Re: MESSAGE FOR MARK ROBERTS

2005-03-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/3/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 As far as you two are concerned, can you blame him? ;-)

Well, no, not really...

vbg

-frank

I blame the parents.




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Re: My LX: The Saga Continues

2005-03-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/3/05, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

If the only thing wrong about it is the flash, I don't see how that
would be a parts body!
I don't even *know* whether the flash sync works on my two MXs or the M6...

Juan, s. Can't you see this is a self-enablement mechanism at work? ;-)




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Re: Pentax Lens explosion on e-bay continues

2005-03-18 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Paul

 BH has this lens on back order. You can ask to be notified when 
 it's in stock. It's $299.95 -- brand new -- eighty bucks less than 
 the used one that was sold on ebay.


Thanks for the information I've asked to be notified when they're in stock, I 
guess I shouldn't hold my breath :)

John 




Re: Shadow play

2005-03-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/3/05, Jim Apilado, discombobulated, unleashed:

Never posted a picture before.  Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the
Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington.

http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121

Jim A. 


Yeah, I like it. Nice work.



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Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Peter Lacus
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer.html
too cute. :-)
Bedo.


Re: Re: *istD toughness test :-)

2005-03-18 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/03/18 Fri AM 08:23:27 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: *istD toughness test :-)
 
 --- Sylwiusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Friend of my friend has accidentally left his *istD on the roof of his 
  car and didn't noticed it till he drove 0.5 km. By that time 1.5 tons 
  weighting car overran it... See how it looks here:
  http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/26424/display/2774542
  Lens is completely destroyed, but *istD survived and is still working 
  having only a few scratches on its bottom :-)
 
 Now that's exactly what Pentax needed for advertising.

One of the camera bag companies used to have an advert about a guy whose bag 
got caught on the towhook of a leaving vehicle.  He chased it and found the bag 
in the middle of the road some miles away.  Needless to say, everything was in 
perfect working and cosmetic condition, demostrating perfectly the magnificence 
of the protection.

I'm not sure whether the guy had a pile of good luck, for getting his gear back 
and in one piece, or bad luck for getting it caught on the towhook in the first 
place.

mike

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Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Love to do it sometime, but this next couple of weeks is not going to
 be the time.

Don't do it Godfrey, you will *really* want the K135/2.5. With a
passion.

Kostas



Re: Shadow play

2005-03-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jim Apilado wrote:

 Never posted a picture before.  Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the
 Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington.

 http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121

I like the composition, the theme and the colour of the graffiti
background (and the reflection on the shirt). I have said repeatedly I
have a bad monitor, but has the tool (camera) failed you in terms of
latitude?

Kostas



Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

Do you think the K135/2.5 is a better lens than the FA135/2.8?  In what
way? Have you compared them? 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis 
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  Love to do it sometime, but this next couple of weeks is not going to
  be the time.

 Don't do it Godfrey, you will *really* want the K135/2.5. With a
 passion.

 Kostas




Re: How many Pentax lenses left?

2005-03-18 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2005-03-17 14:34, Peter J. Alling wrote:
 I don't know why you'd say that.  The D-FA lenses are full frame 35mm  
 and if you actually visit the Pentax JP site you'd see
 that there is still a full line of Pentax Primes listed.  Maybe Pentax 
 in Europe isn't importing them but they are still available according
 to the Pentax Japan web site

Did you actually check through this list?
How many do you feel are still around?

I guess it's rather unclear about the long teles, such as
  smc PENTAX 500mm F4.5   -   12
  smc PENTAX M Reflex 2000mm F13.5
  smc PENTAX-A1200mm F8 ED [IF]   -
  smc PENTAX-A300mm F2.8 ED [IF]  -
  smc PENTAX-A600mm F5.6 ED [IF]  -

But how about e.g.
  smc PENTAX-A 15mm F3.5  -
  smc PENTAX-A 20mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-A 50mm F1.2  -
  smc PENTAX-FA 35mm F2 AL
  smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4
  smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.7
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 50mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 100mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 100mm F3.5
  smc PENTAX-FA 135mm F2.8 [IF]


I doubt that this page is really up to date. It's from September 2004, and
even in that time many of those products were no longer available, I
suppose. The better Macros where replaced by DFAs, the cheap Cosina Macro
is no longer listed.

I was told by now that there was little market for the 50 mm standard
lenses recently - I wonder why. It could be an excellent portrait lense
for digital bodies!? Cheap and bright (although the 50/1.7 was never as
cheap as the Nikon/Canon/Minolta plastic models).




Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Do you think the K135/2.5 is a better lens than the FA135/2.8?  In what
 way? Have you compared them?

It's fetish. K lenses just have something. Plus Godfrey is not
afraid of a little overlap in a focal length :-) He also does not
mind MF.

I read him rave about the M85/2 (which I also have) and thought this
guy must try the K135/2. Next thing I know, the proposal flies on the
list :-)

Kostas



RE: PESO - On the bridge

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It doesn't come together at all, John.  Too many people all facing in
different directions.  There's no cohesion here, just a bunch of people
hanging out on the bridge.  Where's the story?  What's the photo supposed
to be about?

Color seems to be a distraction here as well. I did a QD BW conversion
using a plug-in I found, and the pic improved substantially to my eyes. 
The jumble of people plus the jumble of color is really too much.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: John Francis 

 OK - We've seen Marnie's shot of a worried parent,
 and we've seen a nice treatment by Marco.

 But, strange as it may seem, even I took a shot of
 a group of people gathered on that self-same bridge.

 It's not my normal style of thing at all, so I find
 myself unable to decide whether it's worth showing.
 But I'll never learn if I don't, so here it is:

   http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/OnTheBridge.jpg

 Have at it.  Comments actively encouraged.





Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Shel,
I think it's just about a tossup. I might prefer the original a tiny 
bit. However, that's because the lightened one loses contrast in the 
process. Go back and try it again. This time use the shadows/highlights 
tool. Make sure it's in advanced mode, so you'll have the midtone 
contrast control as well. Reduce the shadows by about 10% or so, Set 
the threshold so it's affecting only the shadows you wish to control, 
then crank up the midtone contrast until the values in the lightened 
face are again appropriate. See if that isn't a marked improvement over 
both versions.
Paul
On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi Don,
Dodging and burning aren't manipulation as I see it ;-))
Actually, there are many ways to lighten small or specific areas, 
that's
not the problem.  I just lightened the face a bit, but then the 
tonality of
the photo was thrown off and the pic didn't look quite natural.  Of 
course,
I just did a little QD adjustment, and it's likely that spending more 
time
on the face could bring a better result.

My own philosphy of image tonality comes from working with BW, where 
one
works with light and shadows differently.  Personally, I like deep 
shadows
and darker prints (one of my teachers was a student of WES, and WES 
often
printed dark), but what I'm used to doing in BW doesn't always 
translate
into color, so new skills are needed here.  However, I generally don't 
like
working in color as color often gets in the way of the image and the 
story.

Here's the QD lightening of the face.  Tell me if you don't thing the
balance of the image is ruined by the adjustment. You might want to 
switch
between them to better see the dif.

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer-lite.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer.html
Shel

[Original Message]
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 3/17/2005 6:18:51 PM
Subject: RE: PAW PESO - Snoozer
I was assuming an overall lightening of the pic.
You wouldn't resort to *dodging* would you?
That would be manipulation! ;-)
(Poking fun at the 'purists'.)
Actually I don't know if it would look right or not
just lightening the shadows. I'm not good enough at
PS to make it look natural.
Looks like one of those cut n' paste things when I'm
done with it.




Re: 645D - more pictures

2005-03-18 Thread Herb Chong
interchangeable finder, or just hasty preparation.
Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:14 AM
Subject: RE: 645D - more pictures


It looks like three different dummies made out of polystyrene, wood or
whatever.
The C-model has a prisma housing (baseball cap) not unlike the *ist D.
Perhaps with a built-in falsh?



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If 
there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double 
bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
Paul
On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Flash!  Sheesh 
Shel

[Original Message]
From: Scott Loveless

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer.html

No kid, no!  Yer lookin' the wrong way!  Great photo, Shel.  Makes
me want to sneak into my daughter's room with the flash on and take
some photos of her asleep in her crib.




Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's definitely prettier :-)
Paul
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:30 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi,
Do you think the K135/2.5 is a better lens than the FA135/2.8?  In what
way? Have you compared them?
Shel

[Original Message]
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Love to do it sometime, but this next couple of weeks is not going to
be the time.
Don't do it Godfrey, you will *really* want the K135/2.5. With a
passion.
Kostas




Re: How many Pentax lenses left?

2005-03-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Most of them are available as far as I know, but it seems you have to 
wait. I just purchased a new FA 50/1.4. I have the FA 35/2 on backorder 
at BH. I'll let you know if I get one.
Paul
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote:

On 2005-03-17 14:34, Peter J. Alling wrote:
I don't know why you'd say that.  The D-FA lenses are full frame 35mm
and if you actually visit the Pentax JP site you'd see
that there is still a full line of Pentax Primes listed.  Maybe Pentax
in Europe isn't importing them but they are still available according
to the Pentax Japan web site
Did you actually check through this list?
How many do you feel are still around?
I guess it's rather unclear about the long teles, such as
  smc PENTAX 500mm F4.5   -   12
  smc PENTAX M Reflex 2000mm F13.5
  smc PENTAX-A1200mm F8 ED [IF]   -
  smc PENTAX-A300mm F2.8 ED [IF]  -
  smc PENTAX-A600mm F5.6 ED [IF]  -
But how about e.g.
  smc PENTAX-A 15mm F3.5  -
  smc PENTAX-A 20mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-A 50mm F1.2  -
  smc PENTAX-FA 35mm F2 AL
  smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4
  smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.7
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 50mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 100mm F2.8
  smc PENTAX-FA Macro 100mm F3.5
  smc PENTAX-FA 135mm F2.8 [IF]
I doubt that this page is really up to date. It's from September 2004, 
and
even in that time many of those products were no longer available, I
suppose. The better Macros where replaced by DFAs, the cheap Cosina 
Macro
is no longer listed.

I was told by now that there was little market for the 50 mm standard
lenses recently - I wonder why. It could be an excellent portrait lense
for digital bodies!? Cheap and bright (although the 50/1.7 was never as
cheap as the Nikon/Canon/Minolta plastic models).




RE: New toy: Radio flash trigger

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jens
thanks for the report, I'm always interested in good light sources ;-)
greetings
Markus


I've been playing around with this new toy again.
I found it works more reliable if I attatch the transmitter to the camera
using BOTH the hot shoe and the sync. cord.
If I put a couple of flashes at various positions in my living room, I can
just walk around and photograph from any angle - without using a flash on
the camera. I'll still get very nice photographs. For this
digital (*ist D)
is prefered, since I can adjust the exposure (aperture) according to the
LCD/histogram. I plan to try this out for occational party
photography, when
my kids come over for dinner or coffee etc.!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt




Re: How many Pentax lenses left?

2005-03-18 Thread Toralf Lund
Martin Trautmann wrote:
On 2005-03-17 10:37, Peter J. Alling wrote:
 

Supposedly they are replacing most of the FA lenses with D-FA 
equivalents.  We'll see.
   

I doubt so: I'd expect other signals then.
Since the only replacment or upgrade where the two DFA macros, while they
created six new DA lenses in between, the last FA lense from 2002, and
lots of A/F/FA lenses gone by now, I expect
- the digital sensor size is settled by now: No more full size sensor to
 come.
Hmmm. I certainly hope not. But we'll see... Actually, I suspect that's 
pretty much what Pentax and other camera manufacturers are saying, too. 
I don't think you can draw any conclusions about their long-term plans 
based on what lenses they are releasing now; indeed, I'm not sure there 
are any these days. (The camera market in general is certainly not in a 
settled state, I think.)

Larger sensors might go for medium format sized bodies
- little work on analog at all. 

 




RE: GESO: The Gates

2005-03-18 Thread Amita Guha
 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Womer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Amita,
 
 I just opened my slides of The Gates yesterday, and
 most of them went into the bin.  It was hard to shoot!
  You did much better than I.

Thanks! Yes, it was hard to shoot. I threw out tons of shots myself.
 
 As art, yes, it was silly; but it drew thousands of
 people to stroll in Central Park when they otherwise
 would have been sitting on their backsides.  As an
 event, it was a huge success.

Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I heard people were flying into NY for it.
People really seemed to be enjoying themselves.
 
 I had a scenery/landscape/art mindset when I shot it,
 but I probably would have done much better with a
 street mindset.  I've done very little of that sort
 of shooting, though.

I think it was hard to shoot it as landscapes because there are so many
twists and turns in the park and not many places with a clear vantage point
of an open space. I tried a few shots like that myself and I didn't like
them.



RE: GESO: The Gates

2005-03-18 Thread Amita Guha
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I like #1 a lot.  The fisheye really works well here (and of 
 course, you have the know-how to exploit it g).  Well done.

Thanks! Glad you liked them. :) 

Amita



Re: Anyone used the F 24-50 f/4.0?

2005-03-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's optically identical to the A version, so most of the A version's 
comments (from the two comments posted there) would apply. I have the 
A version and while some here don't like it, I find it fine for 
casual shooting. It's the same size as the 35-70 f/4 A lens, which is 
quite compact. I had the F version once, and it's bulkier because of 
the bulkier barrel size of most of the F zooms. The F version of the 
lens flared a bit, as I remember, even with a hood, but the 
circumstances of the shoot I'm remembering were quite demanding 
(strong backlight/sunlight with sun just out of the edge of the frame 
at 24mm).

It is a very nice range.

Thanks Joe. I found some other comments on the net. Many commented that
it's good when stopped down, which is how I would use it for the most
part. I just ordered one from KEH and I'll do some tests with the ist-D
when it arrives.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: My LX: The Saga Continues

2005-03-18 Thread brooksdj
Let me know if Pentax Canada(Mississauga)returns any emails or phone calls. 
Several of
mine the 
past 2 weeks have not.
Pi***'s me off. Nikon did this to.
I wonder if Canon returns phone calls.

Dave  

 
 When I pick up my LX in the next day or two, I'll ask them exactly
 what part(s) they can't get, and I'll e-mail Pentax (both Canada and
 USA) to see if they have them, or can repair that problem.
 cheers,

 frank





Re: Pulled the trigger

2005-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Francis Alviar 
Subject: Pulled the trigger


Evening guys and gals.  I just pulled the trigger and
purchased a used *ist DS in EX+ condition.  I'm hoping
it will be a keeper but just in case it's not I have
about two weeks to decide.  My question for all is: 
What should I check for?

Thr Ds hasn't been around long enough to have been worn out.
Check to make sure there are no signs of it having been dropped.
William Robb


Re: My LX: The Saga Continues

2005-03-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: RE: My LX: The Saga Continues



I'm really sorry to hear that Frank and I hope you have another 
fully
functional LX shortly. Are the parts for the LX finally drying up 
all across
the globe now?  :-(

The problem with the LX is that it had a lot of internal 
modifications made during it's twenty year run. If Frank's camera 
needs parts from an early model run, they may very well not be 
available.

Frank, do yourself a favour and send the thing to Pentax in 
Mississauga. They were really pro-active about finding parts for 
mine, including having the mother corp custom build a new circuit 
board for one of my cameras.

William Robb 




Re: Anachronistic Me

2005-03-18 Thread brooksdj
Hi Dave,
I've wanted one ever since my first SLR, an MX. Back then the $50 I paid for a 
used MX
seemed like 
alot at the time (it was, based on available funds).


What lenses do you typically carry for the 67?

Tom C.

Hi Tom.
The camera came with a 90mm F2.8 Leaf Shutter lens, then boought off of Ekkbay 
a SMC Tak
200 F4 in 
great condition.
This lens has had several threads on it in the past 6-8 months,but the one i 
have is very
sharp. Its my 
favorite lens of everything i own.
Still humming wether to get a 300 or something a bit wider,like a 75or55. I use 
it mostly
for rural stuff, 
so wider is a bit more important than reach for now.I might be able to try 
Brother Aarons
75  later,as 
we'll be trading equipment over the baseball season.
(They are playing right.??vbg)

Dave





Pug deadline Sunday

2005-03-18 Thread brooksdj

   Don't forget March 20, 2005 is the deadline.(Watch, i'll forget now.lol)

Theme is BW IV

Dave




Re: European Banking / Ebay Payment Question

2005-03-18 Thread John Forbes
Mark,
I'm sure you will be fine.  One needs to be careful, but one doesn't need  
to be paranoid.

John
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:20 -0500, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

John Forbes wrote:
In my experience, most people who are wary of giving out their account  
numbers are quite happy to make payments by cheque.  Possibly they  
think the recipients are incapable of reading an account number from a  
cheque.
Yes - that occured to me as well. ANd my bnk did tell me it was safe.
So - when I get those emails form African exiles asking to deposit  
millions in my account for safe keeping, should I go ahead and give out  
the numbers?

My take on Mark's dilemma is that the chance of his buyer being a  
conman, whilst finite, is pretty remote.  Over a lifetime, Mark is  
likely to be a richer man by taking risks like this, even if he gets  
caught out one time in ten thousand, than he would be if he avoided  
such risks.
At the end of the day, after I passed all the EFT info onto the buyer,  
he paid by BidPay (Western Union). So, everything looks fine, though the  
transaction is officially pending.

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
John

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:09:51 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 17/3/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm not going to post the techniques used, but it's VERY easy.
Interesting. Perhaps security levels differ from country to country? I
understand that it is not possible to withdraw money from a UK bank
account without express consent from the account holder.
Where's John Forbes when you need him ;-)

Cheers,
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DNG vs PEF

2005-03-18 Thread David Zaninovic
So what is the final verdict on DNG vs PEF ?  What do I lose by converting PEF 
to DNG ?  Do I lose any picture information or just
metadata, like which lens was used and other things I don't really need.  I 
need size reduction from 13MB to 5MB, that is a huge
difference.  If I have to keep PEF-s then there is no reason to use DNG.



Hey, Frank!!!

2005-03-18 Thread m.9.wilson
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=7500093536

HTH

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Re: Digital Spotmatic, anyone?

2005-03-18 Thread Toralf Lund
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:14:37 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Un, no.
It's vaporware.
   

I'm doing my research now.  It is, indeed, vaporware.  They've been
around since '98 with at least three different parent companies, have
actually taken orders for the EFS-1, never shipped anything, claimed a
10MP product in 2002, and now are touting a 4MP EFS-4.  My cup runneth
out.
 

I guess one might hope that the parent company change is a good thing, 
i.e. that the current one is actually able to bring the product to the 
marked. I don't believe it until I see it, though.

I rather like the sensor size spec...
- Toralf



RE: Hey, Frank!!!

2005-03-18 Thread Don Sanderson
Might e-mail Eric and ask too.
http://www.pentaxs.com

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:18 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Hey, Frank!!!
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=7500093536
 
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FS Friday - PZ-1p socket cover

2005-03-18 Thread Lindamood, Mark
Paranoid that I was going to lose the cable release socket cover on my PZ-1p, I 
tacked one onto another order from Pentax CO years ago and still have it, even 
tho the PZ-1p, alas, is long gone (and the socket cover never was lost).  I'll 
sell it for $11, which includes mailing it.

Talk about flotsam . . .





PESO:prepare for Easter - the real thing this time

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Frank and everybody responding to my last peso, namely Peter,Paul and
Pat:
first: thanks

second: sorry,   I should have known that I deal with some real rabbit
(ears) experts here... ;-)

this time real Easter sample shots from last week with the same equipment as
before.
I made about 30 children portraits (at work) and will give the prints to
them or their parents as a Easter gift soon.
(This are just quick scans from the prints, so they loose quite a bit of
quality and suffer from some cropping)

enjoy
happy Easter and spring to everybody
Markus

The links (each pic is 150KB or a bit more) :

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206302

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206308

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206316

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206312

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206322

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206313

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206305

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206315

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206314

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206317
















 Have fun with a false easter rabbit shots and another:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3194142

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3194137

 used Equipment:

 Pentax SFXn
 Tamron 90mm Macro manual, mostly at F8 or F11
 Pentax AF 280T TTL automatic setting
 Hama Softball in front of flash
 Afga and other ISO 200 film
 shooting distance 50-150cm

I don't know what the first one has to do with Easter vbg, but it's
a nice shot of the pooch.

The second one is my favourite of the two.  Nice dog and person shot
(I like those).  Seems to be a real bond between the two.

cheers,
frank




Re: Anyone used the F 24-50 f/4.0?

2005-03-18 Thread Joe Wilensky
Let us know! It's certainly seems like it could be a decent 
full-frame coverage alternative to the expensive 24-90 or 20-35 and 
perhaps better constructed than the FAJ 18-35.

Joe

Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's optically identical to the A version, so most of the A version's
comments (from the two comments posted there) would apply. I have the
A version and while some here don't like it, I find it fine for
casual shooting. It's the same size as the 35-70 f/4 A lens, which is
quite compact. I had the F version once, and it's bulkier because of
the bulkier barrel size of most of the F zooms. The F version of the
lens flared a bit, as I remember, even with a hood, but the
circumstances of the shoot I'm remembering were quite demanding
(strong backlight/sunlight with sun just out of the edge of the frame
at 24mm).
It is a very nice range.
Thanks Joe. I found some other comments on the net. Many commented that
it's good when stopped down, which is how I would use it for the most
part. I just ordered one from KEH and I'll do some tests with the ist-D
when it arrives.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: European Banking / Ebay Payment Question

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Mark
I may be of little help here but it is common for me in Switzerland to
receive full bank account details for transferring
money after an auction. I mostly pay auctions with cash at the post office
for the bank account of the seller.
I do not see an abuse potential with that procedure?

greetings
Markus


 He's asked for my bank
account number so he can do a wire transfer, but that sounds
suspiscious to
me

- MCC





Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Using flash at night on a sleeping child?  Wouldn't that startle and
frighten  the kid ?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 3/18/2005 3:41:58 AM
 Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

 Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If 
 there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double 
 bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
 Paul
 On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  Flash!  Sheesh 
 
  Shel
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Scott Loveless
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer.html
 
 
  No kid, no!  Yer lookin' the wrong way!  Great photo, Shel.  Makes
  me want to sneak into my daughter's room with the flash on and take
  some photos of her asleep in her crib.
 
 




Re: Pulled the trigger

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/17/2005 11:02:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Evening guys and gals.  I just pulled the trigger and
purchased a used *ist DS in EX+ condition.  I'm hoping
it will be a keeper but just in case it's not I have
about two weeks to decide.  My question for all is: 
What should I check for?

I'm no expert in digital cameras.  This is my first
dslr and I really wanted to buy a new one but have to
settle for a used specimen due to budget constraints
so any tips or advice you guys can provide will be
really helpful and is very much appreciated.

Thanks.


Francis M. Alviar
=
I bought a used Digital Rebel about six months after it came out. In these 
cases, buying a used DSLR soon after release, unlikely that there is anything 
wrong with it.

But go out and shoot two cards worth of shots with different lenses (if you 
have them). Try different aperture/shutter speeds -- or settings -- program 
mode, AV, TV, manual -- do some aperture changing, some shutter speed changing, 
some ISO changing, some WTB changing. Play around. Recharge the battery and 
replace it. See that it is good, if not try another battery. If the basics work 
fine, it is all probably fine.

The best way to test is to actually shoot some pictures, and get familiar 
with the camera. I got totally freaked the second time I used mine (even 
discussed it on list and, Herb, I think told me what it probably was), it 
seemed to 
work totally wrong -- exposures took too long after I pushed the trigger. Then 
I 
figured out I had pushed the self-timer button accidentally because of my 
unfamiliarity with the camera. Do'h. Consult your manual. If it didn't come 
with 
one, there should be one online.

Take it for a test drive. ;-) 

HTH, Marnie 



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread pnstenquist
Perhaps. But probably not if bounced. No more than would turning on the room 
lights. I did it when my kids were little but only in the morning when there 
was already some ambient light in the room. I wouldn't recommend going in the 
kid's room at midnight and lighting it up :-).


 Using flash at night on a sleeping child?  Wouldn't that startle and
 frighten  the kid ?
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Date: 3/18/2005 3:41:58 AM
  Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer
 
  Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If 
  there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double 
  bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
  Paul
  On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
   Flash!  Sheesh 
  
   Shel
  
  
   [Original Message]
   From: Scott Loveless
  
   http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/snoozer.html
  
  
   No kid, no!  Yer lookin' the wrong way!  Great photo, Shel.  Makes
   me want to sneak into my daughter's room with the flash on and take
   some photos of her asleep in her crib.
  
  
 
 



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:10:48 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Using flash at night on a sleeping child?  Wouldn't that startle and
 frighten  the kid ?
 
 Shel
 
That's why I'm not allowed to do that anymore.

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/17/2005 6:14:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've been reading the New World Camera Raw some of
you suggested.
So far it's made me feel real dumb.
Either need a more 'entry level' book, or another
darkroom in the basement!

Demosaicing and Colorimetric Interpretation? Phooey!
I just want to make purdy pi'churs.

Don (Strollers are for sissys, I 'carried' my kid!) ;-)
=
Author: Bruce Fraser

I found a copy at Barnes  Noble and have started reading it too. I am bit 
familiar with graphic software, but it'll probably take all of my mental 
capacity to get through the book. (Hmmm, nope, not going there, and you better 
not 
either.) 

Actually, it looks pretty good -- I'll probably end up skimming the details I 
don't want to go into yet. Look at the sections on Camera RAW that I don't 
understand right now, first -- like most of the basic stuff. ;-)

Thanks for the recommendation.

Marnie 



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:38:35 -0500, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If
 there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double
 bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
 Paul

I've actually been using a small soft box on my camera mounted strobe.
 It's bulky and it falls off from time to time, but it makes for much
nicer light.  I do usually have to open the aperture a stop or so with
it.
 On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  Flash!  Sheesh 
I don't like flash much, either.  But it's dark in there at night.
 
  Shel
 



-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com



Re: DNG vs PEF

2005-03-18 Thread Albano Garcia
Yes, there's a reason: in a future, it's possible PEF
will no longer exist or be unavailable to open in
Photoshop CS 12 or whatever version we'll be using.
It's very probable DNG will be supported and maybe
monopolic by that time. 
You can save them as DNG embedding the full PEF
inside, ensuring you'll not lost nothing and will be
able to open it in a far future. But you will not save
file size :-(
Regards

Albano

--- David Zaninovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So what is the final verdict on DNG vs PEF ?  What
 do I lose by converting PEF to DNG ?  Do I lose any
 picture information or just
 metadata, like which lens was used and other things
 I don't really need.  I need size reduction from
 13MB to 5MB, that is a huge
 difference.  If I have to keep PEF-s then there is
 no reason to use DNG.
 
 

Albano Garcia
Photography  Graphic Design
http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
http://www.flaneur.com.ar
 
 

 




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Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2005 7:28:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:38:35 -0500, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If
 there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double
 bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
 Paul

I've actually been using a small soft box on my camera mounted strobe.
It's bulky and it falls off from time to time, but it makes for much
nicer light.  I do usually have to open the aperture a stop or so with
it.
 On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  Flash!  Sheesh 
I don't like flash much, either.  But it's dark in there at night.
 
  Shel
 
=
I am beginning to feel sorry for the sleeping kids of the world.

Marnie ;-)



LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bill, Your comment worries me since I'm considering a D.  The implication
of your statement seems to be that the D has been around long enough to
have some samples that are worn out.  Is that really what you meant, that
the D, and, I suppose, other cameras of its type, may have a short life
span.  How long has the D been out - a couple of years?  And, even if it's
too soon for these cameras to be worn out (maybe that term needs
clarification), how long can they be expected to last under average
circumstances?  What about when used a lot - say 100 exposures a day?  Is
that a lot with these puppies?

I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be expected
to last..

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: William Robb 

 Thr Ds hasn't been around long enough to have been worn out.
 Check to make sure there are no signs of it having been dropped.




RE: DNG vs PEF

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

I'm far from an expert here, but some time ago a few list members and
friends sent me numerous RAW files from the istD, a Nikon D70, a Canon (10D
I think), and another Nikon (more grown up than the D70).  I ran them all
through the Adobe RAW converter and played with them, and I also ran the
same images through the DNG converter.  I couldn't see any difference. 
However, don't consider my comments to be indicative of a final verdict. 
Perhaps more like polling the jury LOL

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: David Zaninovic 

 So what is the final verdict on DNG vs PEF ?  What do I lose by
converting PEF to DNG ?  Do I lose any picture information or just
 metadata, like which lens was used and other things I don't really need. 
I need size reduction from 13MB to 5MB, that is a huge
 difference.  If I have to keep PEF-s then there is no reason to use DNG.




Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here

2005-03-18 Thread Village Idiot
William,

You are correct about C having a classic Pentax look.  That must be why I 
like that body the best.

Village Idiot


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: mike wilson
 Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here
 
 
  Alin Flaider wrote:
 
Citroens follow the shape of a falling blob, the B (and the 
  thing that
inspired it) look like inflated frogs.
 
  Now we know what you do during those long, cold, lonely Romanian 
  winters.  Hope Valentin hasn't exported the pastime to Canada 8-)
 
 Oh Man!! I had forgoten the childhood games of Frog Bowling.
 
 I like C, FWIW. It looks like a Pentax.
 
 William Robb 
 
 



Re: 645D - more pictures

2005-03-18 Thread Village Idiot
An interchangeable viewfinder would be very sweet indeed, but maybe they are 
saving that for the 67D.

Village Idiot


 interchangeable finder, or just hasty preparation.
 
 Herb
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:14 AM
 Subject: RE: 645D - more pictures
 
 
  It looks like three different dummies made out of polystyrene, wood or
  whatever.
  The C-model has a prisma housing (baseball cap) not unlike the *ist D.
  Perhaps with a built-in falsh?
 
 



Re: PESO: Reception

2005-03-18 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent light. Good job. And a fun shot as well.
Paul


 Flash photography, PJ style.
 I just want to let you all know that I like to use two flash tubes for
 casual shooting.
 This was shot with my *ist D, Tamron 3.5-5.6/28-80mm Asperical at F 6.3, and
 a Metz 45 CT-5, using two flash tubes and a proper AF adapter in TTL mode.
 Main light in the cieling, and the small tube straight forward at the
 subject.
 I think the light is just fine.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/6782063/
 
 Regards
 
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 



PESO: Reception

2005-03-18 Thread Jens Bladt
Flash photography, PJ style.
I just want to let you all know that I like to use two flash tubes for
casual shooting.
This was shot with my *ist D, Tamron 3.5-5.6/28-80mm Asperical at F 6.3, and
a Metz 45 CT-5, using two flash tubes and a proper AF adapter in TTL mode.
Main light in the cieling, and the small tube straight forward at the
subject.
I think the light is just fine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/6782063/

Regards


Jens Bladt
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Re: DNG vs PEF

2005-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 18, 2005, at 5:12 AM, David Zaninovic wrote:
So what is the final verdict on DNG vs PEF ?  What do I lose by 
converting PEF to DNG ?  Do I lose any picture information or just
metadata, like which lens was used and other things I don't really 
need.  I need size reduction from 13MB to 5MB, that is a huge
difference.  If I have to keep PEF-s then there is no reason to use 
DNG.
The best strategy, and the one that even Adobe suggests, is to archive 
your PEF files to allow for future enhancement to the DNG Converter. 
None of the image information is lost, but some of the camera 
manufacturers' metadata is not currently transferred.

Remember: you can always convert a PEF to DNG, but you cannot convert a 
DNG to a PEF (unless you've embedded the PEF into the DNG, which loses 
the file-size savings).

Godfrey


Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2005 8:13:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at the number of functioning Spotties here, take a look at my Leicas
when we next meet, see how many people are using older Nikons and Canons. 
I've not seen any specs about the estimated longevity of D cameras.  

Shel 
=
Well, it's really too soon to know yet, isn't it? I suspect they won't last 
as long as film cameras (too many electronics to go wrong). OTOH, I suspect 
some will last far longer than many would think -- depending on care. Most are 
well-built (also, you get what you pay for). But, as Paul said, one will 
probably want to replace a DSLR, new technology and all that, long before the 
camera 
is ready to expire.

Also we don't really know yet how long there will be places that will repair 
specific DSLRs. There are still a few places that repair LXes and MXes, even 
now.

So, I personally, don't worry about it much. 

For instance, I dumped some perfectly good computers that worked fine, just 
to upgrade. But they hadn't expired -- they were just retired.

Marnie 



Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here

2005-03-18 Thread Village Idiot
I thought that they already made a Pentax 67 Lens to Pentax 645 Body Adapter?

Village Idiot



 In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 
 67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter.
 
 John Francis wrote:
 
 Village Idiot mused:
   
 
 My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved
 Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder.  I like the
 classic straight name.  I think the curved nameplate has a cheap
 look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line.
 
 
 
 If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all
 around the lens mount, and the name follows this.  I don't see
 any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for
 a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work;
 the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645.
 
 
   
 
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 



Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here

2005-03-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 
67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter.

John Francis wrote:
Village Idiot mused:
 

My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved
Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder.  I like the
classic straight name.  I think the curved nameplate has a cheap
look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line.
   

If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all
around the lens mount, and the name follows this.  I don't see
any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for
a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work;
the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645.
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: OT: Newfie History 101-was: Take the Knarf Quiz !!

2005-03-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
You sure, maybe it's not the Geese...
frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:30:50 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:01:51 -0500, frank theriault
   

 

Kinda like the geese, eh?
   

Yes, but even Newfies don't crap all over our parks and sidewalks.
-frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yeah, but his comment got me to thinking.  Older manual cameras were
sometimes defined by the number of exposures one could reasonably expect
from them.  They could also be easily repaired (note the longevity of
Spotmatics, Leicas, Rolleiflexes, 'blads, Nikons, etc.) easily enough
because, as mechanical cameras, adjustments could be made, parts scavanged
from other cameras, and parts could sometimes be fabricated quite readily. 
Look at the number of functioning Spotties here, take a look at my Leicas
when we next meet, see how many people are using older Nikons and Canons. 
I've not seen any specs about the estimated longevity of D cameras.  

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be expected
 to last..

 Shel 
 
 Bill is often facetious (he just doesn't add smileys, so it isn't always 
 obvious).




RE: PESO: Reception

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Jens
and do you think that TTL mode is any better in this shot compared to the
automatic computer modes of the Metz?
It does not look like a very difficult lightning situation for me here?
Could you make a comparison photo Metz Auto versu TTL , I have a Metz 45
CT-4 and would like to see what I miss from not having the right
adapter/cord for TTL flash with the SFXn

thanks and greetings
Markus



-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:04 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Reception


Flash photography, PJ style.
I just want to let you all know that I like to use two flash tubes for
casual shooting.
This was shot with my *ist D, Tamron 3.5-5.6/28-80mm Asperical at
F 6.3, and
a Metz 45 CT-5, using two flash tubes and a proper AF adapter in TTL mode.
Main light in the cieling, and the small tube straight forward at the
subject.
I think the light is just fine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/6782063/

Regards


Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt







Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK, I thought you meant the whole pic, which would have been surprising
since only the part of the face in shadow was adjusted.  It was done
quickly by making a selection of the area to be adjusted.  I think I used
S/H there, but more likely other adjustments Contrast/Brightness was used. 
I'll try S/H using your suggestion, which sounds like a good way to go. 
Thanks!

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To my eye, the lightened version that you posted is lacking contrast in
the face. It looks like it was dodged in PS. The shadow/highlight tool is
much more effective when extensive lightening of shadows is desired.
 Paul


  Where does the lightened one lose contrast, Paul?
  
  Shel 
  
  
   [Original Message]
   From: Paul Stenquist 
  
   I think it's just about a tossup. I might prefer the original a tiny 
   bit. However, that's because the lightened one loses contrast in the 
   process. 
  
  




Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't expect anything to last forever, but I see no reason why an 
*ist D/DS wouldn't last 5-10 years or perhaps even longer, if you want 
to use one for that long a time and take care of it. I have several 
electronics gizmos of similar complexity and design that are pushing 20 
years old and still working perfectly, never been serviced at all.

Godfrey
On Mar 18, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Yeah, but his comment got me to thinking.  Older manual cameras were
sometimes defined by the number of exposures one could reasonably 
expect
from them.  They could also be easily repaired (note the longevity of
Spotmatics, Leicas, Rolleiflexes, 'blads, Nikons, etc.) easily enough
because, as mechanical cameras, adjustments could be made, parts 
scavanged
from other cameras, and parts could sometimes be fabricated quite 
readily.
Look at the number of functioning Spotties here, take a look at my 
Leicas
when we next meet, see how many people are using older Nikons and 
Canons.
I've not seen any specs about the estimated longevity of D cameras.

Shel

[Original Message]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be 
expected
to last..

Shel

Bill is often facetious (he just doesn't add smileys, so it isn't 
always
obvious).




Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
No I meant current, Kodak makes two different DC 14 the c[anon] and the 
n[ikon] they are built on two different platforms
but they sell for about the same amount.  They're not the same camera 
but they can be considered as a single camera for
my purposes here, thus the x.  Either one would be a competitor for 
the Pentax 645d.  As is the new 16mp Canon offering
If Kodak stays in the dslr business I expect that there will be a new DC 
14 follow on before the 645d is released, probably at 18mp.
What do you think the quality difference between a FF 35mm 16-18mp and a 
1.3 crop 18mp 645 would really be?  Which would
you rather have especially if you use a few w/a lenses, and on average 
the lenses available to you are 1-2 stops faster in the slightly
smaller format.  The current 13mp Kodak is already looked at as a 
replacement for medium format, hell, 6mp is looked on by some
as a replacement for MF.

Like I said the 645d will have to be very competitively priced.
Ryan Brooks wrote:
Peter J. Alling wrote:
  To keep
that they will have to have a perceived quality and similar feature 
set to the upcoming Canon 16mp
DSLR and a price closer to the current Kodak 14[x].

Upcoming... I think you mean here.
-Ryan


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




RE: Eneblement

2005-03-18 Thread Jens Bladt
William
I found that you were absolutly right!

I) have recieved my newst toy - Metz 60 CT-2 from Germany today.
It DOES do TTL with the *ist D (and my Super A) when I use the C81 adapter
and a Pentax sync cord.
BRILLIANTLY, in fact.

I am surprised how light this huge flash is, because there's no on-board
batteries.
I dont even miss the second flash tube (which the CT-4 has) - since I can
use the RFT on my *ist D and my MZ-S (when I recieve Joe Wilensky's).

I just LOVE shooting with two flashes because the light seem quite natural
this way!
This was shot at a reception earlier today, using:
Pentax *ist D, Tamron 3.5-5-6/28-80mm Asperical, Metz 45 CT-5 with two flsh
tubes in TTL position, using a proper AF adapter:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/6782063/

Regards
Jens

Thanks a lot, William.
I already have a C81 adapter and a Pentax sync. cord with it. I never
really
used it, since I use the red light AF assist adapter (SCA 374/2 AF M1),
which works fine with the *ist D - and it worked with my MZ-S (which I
don't
have anymore) as well. I have noticed, though, that flashes using a red AF
assist light, don't do TTL well with the *ist D. I don't plan using this
flash much on camera, but it's nice to have the option :-)

I'll give the C81 a try when I recieve the 60 CT-2 from Germany:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=3876335966ssPageNa
m
e=STRK:MEWN:IT

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. marts 2005 09:35
Til: pentax list
Emne: Re: *istD creation/modification dates


On 17/3/05, Herb Chong, discombobulated, unleashed:

EXIF explicitly says it adheres to FAT16 and FAT32. whether you like the
spec or not, it is the spec, and all Windows computers get it right...

right up Gates' ass.




Cheers,
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RE: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread pnstenquist
Very nice pics. Good compositions and exposure. I would like to see more 
ambient light or more flash spread to the background. The other day at the 
camera store I noticed that lumiquest makes a bounce unit with holes in it. 
When used indoors you get some light off the bounce card and some off the 
ceiling (via the holes). I hope to try it soon.
Paul


 Hi Scott
 all of my latest PESO:Easter pics where made with a hama softball on a AF280
 flash.
 I used TTL flash because the sensor on the flash could be covered by the
 ball moving sometimes.
 The pictures seem to be well exposed without any manual adjustment, even
 with close-ups as near as 20cm.
 I used a Pentax SFXn, Tamron SP 90mm Macro lens shotting distance
 100cm-200cm
 
 
 have a look at:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206302
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206308
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206316
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206312
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206322
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206313
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206305
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206315
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206314
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206317
 
 
 greetings
 Markus
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:27 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer
 
 
 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:38:35 -0500, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If
  there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double
  bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
  Paul
 
 I've actually been using a small soft box on my camera mounted strobe.
  It's bulky and it falls off from time to time, but it makes for much
 nicer light.  I do usually have to open the aperture a stop or so with
 it.
  On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
   Flash!  Sheesh 
 I don't like flash much, either.  But it's dark in there at night.
  
   Shel
  
 
 
 
 --
 Scott Loveless
 http://www.twosixteen.com
 
 
 
 



RE: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Paul
thanks for the comments.
I'm very interested to see your results (and the bouncer itself) if you get
one of those Lumiquest bouncers.

Maybe I try next time to hold an Osram slave flash above the camera with one
hand to send some flash light to the background or to hide the second slvae
flash somewhere in the background.

The old Metz 45 CT-4 flash I have is quite heavy and looks just too big,
but would make better lightning with its two flashes

greetings
Markus






-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:06 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PAW PESO - Snoozer


Very nice pics. Good compositions and exposure. I would like to
see more ambient light or more flash spread to the background.
The other day at the camera store I noticed that lumiquest makes
a bounce unit with holes in it. When used indoors you get some
light off the bounce card and some off the ceiling (via the
holes). I hope to try it soon.
Paul


 Hi Scott
 all of my latest PESO:Easter pics where made with a hama
softball on a AF280
 flash.
 I used TTL flash because the sensor on the flash could be covered by the
 ball moving sometimes.
 The pictures seem to be well exposed without any manual adjustment, even
 with close-ups as near as 20cm.
 I used a Pentax SFXn, Tamron SP 90mm Macro lens shotting distance
 100cm-200cm


 have a look at:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206302

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206308

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206316

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206312

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206322

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206313

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206305

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206315

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206314

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3206317


 greetings
 Markus





 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 4:27 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer
 
 
 On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 06:38:35 -0500, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Seriously, flash wold be fine. Just bounce it off the ceiling. If
  there's a light colored wall behind her bed, you'll get a double
  bounce, and it will look like the room is flooded with sunlight.
  Paul
 
 I've actually been using a small soft box on my camera mounted strobe.
  It's bulky and it falls off from time to time, but it makes for much
 nicer light.  I do usually have to open the aperture a stop or so with
 it.
  On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
   Flash!  Sheesh 
 I don't like flash much, either.  But it's dark in there at night.
  
   Shel
  
 
 
 
 --
 Scott Loveless
 http://www.twosixteen.com
 
 








Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread DagT
I´m not very worried about my D.  What worries me is the changing 
standards, like CF card and data formats.  I think the camera may 
easily outlast the different Mac or MS operating systems, file formats 
and RAW converter compatibility of Photoshop..

DagT
På 18. mar. 2005 kl. 16.30 skrev Shel Belinkoff:
Bill, Your comment worries me since I'm considering a D.  The 
implication
of your statement seems to be that the D has been around long enough to
have some samples that are worn out.  Is that really what you meant, 
that
the D, and, I suppose, other cameras of its type, may have a short life
span.  How long has the D been out - a couple of years?  And, even if 
it's
too soon for these cameras to be worn out (maybe that term needs
clarification), how long can they be expected to last under average
circumstances?  What about when used a lot - say 100 exposures a day?  
Is
that a lot with these puppies?

I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be 
expected
to last..

Shel

[Original Message]
From: William Robb

Thr Ds hasn't been around long enough to have been worn out.
Check to make sure there are no signs of it having been dropped.




Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I pretty much agree though I'm sure a lot of Canon DSLR have 
replaced MF gear
in studios too. My negativity stems from the likely assumption that 
few working
pros still use or would adopt a digital P645 kit over a top end 
Canon or back
for their old MF kit. Of all the studios I've visited and portrait 
sessions
I've attended I can't remember once seeing P645 as the camera of 
choice. P67
were a far more popular camera here, though Hasseys, Bronicas and 
Mamiyas made
up the vast bulk of MF bodies.
Over here, the P645 system has a small but devoted following of nature 
photographers. I don't think Norwegian photographers are the only ones 
to think that way. Wherever the 645nII has been reviewed, it stood out 
as the outdoor MedF tool of choice. With a bit of careful thinking, 
Pentax could retain that position with a D645.

Jostein


Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Maybe not.  After all, the manufacturer of most any product have done
testing to get an idea of product durability.  How many shutter cycles is
the istD designed for?  Paul thinks 200,000, but is that correct?  How
susceptible are the electronics to problems, and what of the sensor?  Do
the pixel things in sensors wear out?  Can they be ruined by too bright a
light for too long a time?  It's not something I'm worried about, more
curious than anything.  But, if you know me at all, I like to keep things I
like for a long time, and generally go the route of repair rather than
replacement.  I like to know what to expect if I use something in one way
or another. 

Repairing an LX even now is an interesting statement since they were
available new until just a few years ago.  I got my last new one in 2002
(2001? will have to check the paperwork).  I'd expect Pentax to be able to
repair it for some years to come.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well, it's really too soon to know yet, isn't it? I suspect they won't
last 
 as long as film cameras (too many electronics to go wrong). OTOH, I
suspect 
 some will last far longer than many would think -- depending on care.
Most are 
 well-built (also, you get what you pay for). But, as Paul said, one will 
 probably want to replace a DSLR, new technology and all that, long before
the camera 
 is ready to expire.

 Also we don't really know yet how long there will be places that will
repair 
 specific DSLRs. There are still a few places that repair LXes and MXes,
even 
 now.

 So, I personally, don't worry about it much. 

 For instance, I dumped some perfectly good computers that worked fine,
just 
 to upgrade. But they hadn't expired -- they were just retired.

 Marnie 




Re: Potential buyrs of a D645?

2005-03-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005, Jostein wrote:

 Over here, the P645 system has a small but devoted following of nature
 photographers.

My wedding was shot with a P645. In Greece, I kid you not.

Kostas



RE: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Bill, Your comment worries me since I'm considering a D.  The 
 implication of your statement seems to be that the D has been 
 around long enough to have some samples that are worn out.  
 Is that really what you meant, that the D, and, I suppose, 
 other cameras of its type, may have a short life span.  How 
 long has the D been out - a couple of years?  And, even if 
 it's too soon for these cameras to be worn out (maybe that 
 term needs clarification), how long can they be expected to 
 last under average circumstances?  What about when used a lot 
 - say 100 exposures a day?  Is that a lot with these puppies?
 
 I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can 
 be expected to last..

How does usage (in number of images taken daily) of a digital camera compare
to usage of a film camera? I suspect that simply by the ease of seeing the
results and lack of film to process, even a hobby photographer would take
many more images with a digital camera even after the 'novelty' of a new
method of taking pictures has gone. Would this increase in numbers of images
taken over say five years, be the equivalent use of a film camera over ten?
Regardless of technological improvements over a five year period, could
digitals have done twice the workload in this time?

Malcolm  




RE: My LX: The Saga Continues

2005-03-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
 William Robb wrote:

 The problem with the LX is that it had a lot of internal 
 modifications made during it's twenty year run. If Frank's camera 
 needs parts from an early model run, they may very well not be 
 available.

Noted. I feel a serial number check coming on.

Malcolm




Re: DNG vs PEF

2005-03-18 Thread pnstenquist
As far as I know, you lose only metadata. I convert some of my less valuable 
pics to DNG for backup archiving. The really critical ones are saved as PEF.
Paul


 So what is the final verdict on DNG vs PEF ?  What do I lose by converting 
 PEF 
 to DNG ?  Do I lose any picture information or just
 metadata, like which lens was used and other things I don't really need.  I 
 need 
 size reduction from 13MB to 5MB, that is a huge
 difference.  If I have to keep PEF-s then there is no reason to use DNG.
 



Re: *istD toughness test :-)

2005-03-18 Thread Christian


Sylwiusz wrote on 3/18/2005, 3:04 AM:

  Friend of my friend has accidentally left his *istD on the roof of his
  car and didn't noticed it till he drove 0.5 km. By that time 1.5 tons
  weighting car overran it...

looks like the camera wasn't the only thing that got run over: 
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/26424/display/2719000
:-)


-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2005 7:24:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:10:48 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Using flash at night on a sleeping child?  Wouldn't that startle and
 frighten  the kid ?
 
 Shel
 
That's why I'm not allowed to do that anymore.

-- 
Scott Loveless

Actually, come to think of it, it is making me think of Monsters, Inc.

Mommy, Mommy, there's a monster in the closet.

Shh, shh. No, honey, it's just Daddy with the flash.

Marnie ;-)



Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread David Zaninovic
It is not like you will wake up one day and everything will be obsolete you 
will have enough time to prepare for a change and adapt.
If they stop making compactflash cards you can use SD to compactflash adapter.  
 If they stop making SD cards there will be some new
adapter, etc.  If they stop supporting D in raw converters you will know that 
as soon as you pick up a new converter and see that D
support has been dropped, you can then convert all your RAW files to something 
like DNG and continue.  If they stop making CD and
DVD readers you will know that and you can copy all the data to brand new 5TB 
hard drive which you got for $50 after rebate.  I am
more afraid that my D will stop working after the warranty expires because of 
all the electronics inside and that it will be too
expensive to repair it.

- Original Message - 
From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)


 I´m not very worried about my D.  What worries me is the changing
 standards, like CF card and data formats.  I think the camera may
 easily outlast the different Mac or MS operating systems, file formats
 and RAW converter compatibility of Photoshop..

 DagT

 På 18. mar. 2005 kl. 16.30 skrev Shel Belinkoff:

  Bill, Your comment worries me since I'm considering a D.  The
  implication
  of your statement seems to be that the D has been around long enough to
  have some samples that are worn out.  Is that really what you meant,
  that
  the D, and, I suppose, other cameras of its type, may have a short life
  span.  How long has the D been out - a couple of years?  And, even if
  it's
  too soon for these cameras to be worn out (maybe that term needs
  clarification), how long can they be expected to last under average
  circumstances?  What about when used a lot - say 100 exposures a day?
  Is
  that a lot with these puppies?
 
  I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be
  expected
  to last..
 
  Shel
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: William Robb
 
  Thr Ds hasn't been around long enough to have been worn out.
  Check to make sure there are no signs of it having been dropped.
 
 





Re: Shadow play

2005-03-18 Thread japilado
The camera is OK.   If it were not an auto everything,  I would have done
adjustments.  I did a little on PS.

Jim A.



 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Jim Apilado wrote:

 Never posted a picture before.  Taken with my ancient Optio 230 at the
 Experience Music Project building in Seattle, Washington.

 http://www.pbase.com/lordjames/image/40931121

 I like the composition, the theme and the colour of the graffiti
 background (and the reflection on the shirt). I have said repeatedly I
 have a bad monitor, but has the tool (camera) failed you in terms of
 latitude?

 Kostas





Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2005 8:50:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Repairing an LX even now is an interesting statement since they were
available new until just a few years ago.  I got my last new one in 2002
(2001? will have to check the paperwork).  I'd expect Pentax to be able to
repair it for some years to come.

Shel 
=
Oh, sorry. My ignorance, didn't realize it was made so recently. But, then 
OTOH, cameras and photography have changed so much so fast, some things from 
only a few years back seem like ages ago. At least that's what I think when I 
look at my flatbed scanner. 

Probably, if one takes care, a DSLR will last quite a long time. As far as 
pixels blowing out, no idea. I suppose someone somewhere has a web page on 
that, 
or on how to make your DSLR last. Of course, if you don't use it but once a 
month or something... ;-)

Yeah, I worry about CF cards vs SD too. Except s many digitals that 
use CF have been sold, I think that format will be supported for some time. But 
that is probably what will disappear first, long before the cameras die. Like 
film is disappearing now.

Marnie   Shel, how long are you planning to live, anyway? Hehehehehehe.



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread pnstenquist
To my eye, the lightened version that you posted is lacking contrast in the 
face. It looks like it was dodged in PS. The shadow/highlight tool is much more 
effective when extensive lightening of shadows is desired.
Paul


 Where does the lightened one lose contrast, Paul?
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Paul Stenquist 
 
  I think it's just about a tossup. I might prefer the original a tiny 
  bit. However, that's because the lightened one loses contrast in the 
  process. 
 
 



Re: Come on, guys ...

2005-03-18 Thread Christian


frank theriault wrote on 3/17/2005, 10:58 PM:

  On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:18:31 -0500, Christian
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I did.  Last week.  No takers.
 
  Would you buy a used lens from this man?
 
  LOL
 
HY!!  Help a brother out frank!  (or are you too busy 
polishing the MX?) :-)

-- 
Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PAW PESO - Snoozer

2005-03-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Where does the lightened one lose contrast, Paul?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Paul Stenquist 

 I think it's just about a tossup. I might prefer the original a tiny 
 bit. However, that's because the lightened one loses contrast in the 
 process. 




Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Alin Flaider

  SMC 135/2.5 has excellent resolution stopped down beyond f/4 but
  despite (or maybe due to) that it displays visible chromatic
  aberrations. Perhaps these will go away from the smaller format, I
  haven't done any measurements.
  No experience with FA 135/2.8. Just remember the K only focuses down
  to 1.5 m and is quite heavy (650g). Oh yes, and it's a joy just to
  hold it.
 
  Servus,  Alin

Shel wrote:
SB Do you think the K135/2.5 is a better lens than the FA135/2.8?  In what
SB way? Have you compared them? 




Re: for the curious ... FA135/2.8 vs Takumar 135/2.5 comparison

2005-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 18, 2005, at 2:42 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
Do you think the K135/2.5 is a better lens than the FA135/2.8?  In 
what
way? Have you compared them?
It's fetish. K lenses just have something. Plus Godfrey is not
afraid of a little overlap in a focal length :-) He also does not
mind MF.
I read him rave about the M85/2 (which I also have) and thought this
guy must try the K135/2.5. Next thing I know, the proposal flies on 
the
list :-)
lol ... I've already bought way too many Pentax lenses.
Godfrey


Re: Pulled the trigger

2005-03-18 Thread ernreed2
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Francis Alviar 
 Subject: Pulled the trigger
 
 
  Evening guys and gals.  I just pulled the trigger and
  purchased a used *ist DS in EX+ condition.  I'm hoping
  it will be a keeper but just in case it's not I have
  about two weeks to decide.  My question for all is: 
  What should I check for?
  
 
 Thr Ds hasn't been around long enough to have been worn out.
 Check to make sure there are no signs of it having been dropped.
...

or run over, per another thread ...





Re: D645 musings

2005-03-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
Can't even blame the spell checker for that.  Maybe the excitement of
the moment . . .


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/05 3:58 PM 
Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's OK.  From my point of view, not a lot of difference between 10K
and 15K, ie., too high.

That's my point of view, too. There's no difference between $8k and
$22k
for all practical (that is, relating to my bank balance and credit
card
limits!) purposes.

BTW Steve, as a chemist you should know better than to use K instead
of k for 1000. I mean I'm sure the 645D is going to be a pretty hot
item, but still...
;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com 



Re: LIfe Span of a D (was Re: Pulled the trigger)

2005-03-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/18/2005 7:31:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill, Your comment worries me since I'm considering a D.  The implication
of your statement seems to be that the D has been around long enough to
have some samples that are worn out.  Is that really what you meant, that
the D, and, I suppose, other cameras of its type, may have a short life
span.  How long has the D been out - a couple of years?  And, even if it's
too soon for these cameras to be worn out (maybe that term needs
clarification), how long can they be expected to last under average
circumstances?  What about when used a lot - say 100 exposures a day?  Is
that a lot with these puppies?

I'd really like to get some idea of how long these things can be expected
to last..

Shel 

Bill is often facetious (he just doesn't add smileys, so it isn't always 
obvious).

HTH, Marnie :-)



SMC Pentax-F 70-210mm F4-5.6 - what's a reasonable price ??

2005-03-18 Thread Fred Widall
Could someone please tell me what a reasonable price for this
lens would be (in VG condition) into today's 'hot' market.

Looking at Jim's Colwell's excellent spreadsheet it shows an Ebay
range of US$75-115. Is that still reasonable ? They don't
seem to show up very often.

I understand this is one of the best Pentax zooms in this range.

Thanks.
--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
--



RE: OT: European Banking / Ebay Payment Question

2005-03-18 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel
which ways would that be, I can't imagine a single one?
Here in Europe it is absolutely common to publish full bank and post office
account details in business correspondence and elsewhere.
greetings
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:31 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: European Banking / Ebay Payment Question


While it's not likely that someone entering into a business transaction
with you will try to take money from your account, I can think of at least
a couple of  ways in which they could take funds from your account, should
they want to.  Almost zero risk is not risk free.

Shel




Re: FS Friday: Tokina AT-X 270AF PRO II 28-70mm f2.6-2.8

2005-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Just curious, Mark, as I'm not in the market right
now: why are you selling it?

Rick

--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Already mentioned it in another thread, but that one
 didn't have FS in
 the subject line :)
 Tokina AT-X 270AF PRO II 28-70mm f2.6-2.8, in Pentax
 mount, obviously.
 With front  rear caps, lens hood, box, packing,
 etc. EX+ condition.
 $225 + shipping.
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 
 

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Re: My LX: The Saga Continues

2005-03-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 17, 2005, at 8:04 PM, frank theriault wrote:
When I pick up my LX in the next day or two, I'll ask them exactly
what part(s) they can't get, and I'll e-mail Pentax (both Canada and
USA) to see if they have them, or can repair that problem.
I'm pretty confident that if my shop can't do it, Pentax likely can't.
 In fact, a year or two ago, they repaired a Pentax zoom for Dave
Chang-Sang that Pentax Canada said couldn't be repaired as they didn't
have the parts.
Still, it's worth a shot.  Thanks for the advice, Mark.
FWIW, last time I talked with my camera tech, he was reminiscing about 
older Pentax stuff. He liked the LX a lot, but said that Pentax was a 
pain about parts and manuals for it. They kept the LX repair business 
all to themselves, in Japan.

Godfrey


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