PESO: Artificial Beach

2005-08-22 Thread Jens Bladt
http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p19136589.html
This is Amager Strandpark in Copenhagen, Øresund. In the background you
can see Øresundsbroen - the bridge between Denmark and Sweden.
The beach is artificially made and was opened to the public recently.
Five shot panorama, handheld, Pentax *ist D, SMC-F 4/24-50mm @ 50mm.
PhotoaVista 3.5.
Regards
Jens Bladt



Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Powell Hargrave

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs




Even makes Saskatchewan look cozy. :)
Nice shots Bill.  Flying birds, even large ratish ones, are not easy.  You
could practice on something easier like a gofer.


Thanks, Powell.
Bill 





Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Tainter

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs



Seems to perform nicely on the D, Bill.


It seems pretty good. I want to make some prints and see how it looks. I did 
a lot of sharpening on the web images.


William Robb 





Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Evan Hanson 
Subject: RE: A couple of PESOs




Good job on number 2.


Thanks Evan
Bill



Re: Another shot with the 600

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
Subject: Re: Another shot with the 600




On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:45 AM, William Robb wrote:


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/jazzland.html

Probably not a compelling as the winged rats, unless you like  
Canadian Jazz.


Gawds, the air makes it looks as though you used the Liquify tools in  
Photoshop! :-)


Yes, it's certainly as challenging to shoot with ultra-telephoto as  
it is with ultra-wide. I liked the photo of birds on the wing.




Godfrey;
Thanks for looking.
Bill



Re: Another shot with the 600

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Subject: Re: Another shot with the 600



I actually find this more interesting than the winged rats (whatever they 
are

-- I couldn't see them well enough :-)).


Canada Geese.



Keep at it.


OK Mom.
Thanks for looking
Bill





Re: OT: Aus import matters

2005-08-22 Thread Paul
I should have added that, daves right, Fedex or UPS will take care of 
the customs clearance (for a fee), if its come through Australia Post it 
will be more work.


Paul

David Savage wrote:


G'day Ryan,

I bought some stuff (AU$1000+) from Canada a few years ago. I had it
FedEX'ed   they (FedEX) took care of the customs clearance  GST. All
I had to do was pay them the extra fees  the package was forwarded
on.

The whole process would have been simpler if I had had a credit card
at the time.

HTH

Dave

On 8/22/05, Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hi all,

Haven't posted on the list in ages, but having been following it still-
something to do with not being able to bear unsubscribing.

Am considering making a purchase in the very near future and was wondering
if any Aussie PDMLers have any experience making purchases AUD2600 online
from overseas. Probably from a Hong Kong ebay merchant.

I'm curious to find out how you went with customs, import tax etc.

TIA,
Ryan



   



 





Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: william sawyer

Subject: RE: A couple of PESOs



Bill,

I've had this lens for about 2 years now, and agree with everything you've
said. I describe it as a long stovepipe, with the mount stuck on one end.
I'm surprised you are able to balance it on a gimbaled head. I use it on a
ballhead and crank it down as tight as I can, plus use my focusing hand to
absorb vibration.  With the thing being so long from the mounting point,
it
creates a pretty big arc for every little movement.



Here is a bit of a detail shot of the mount.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/600mm/IMGP8908.jpg

Nice light, isn't it?

Anyway..

That plate is just over 6 inches long, and I cannot balance the thing if a
camera only is mounted. The istD has to have the battery pack on it, the LX
has to have the winder attached, and since I haven't actually tried it, I
don't know for sure if it will balance or not. I may end up having a load
fabricated that can be attached to the camera's tripod socket to help
counterbalance the thing.
I figure about a pound of steel should do it...

I like your heron picture.

William Robb





Re: OT: Naples Bay

2005-08-22 Thread DagT
I´ve been to Procida on the north side of the bay, and sea was calm 
there all of that week in october 5 years ago, but some Italian member 
could probably give you more details.


You should also visit Procida, a very nice place and the home of Il 
Postino

http://www.lone-star.net/literature/postino/
http://www.traveltastes.com/procida.htm

DagT
http://dag.foto.no

På 22. aug. 2005 kl. 00.26 skrev Daniel Matyola:


My wife and I are considering a trip this spring to Naples,
Sorrento, and Amalfi.

We would like to take a day trip to Capri, and perhaps another to
Ischia.  I have heard, however, that the trip across the Bay of
Naples can be very rough, even on a hydrofoil.

Does anyone has any experience with that trip?  Any comments or
advice would be appreciated.

Dan M






Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs



William,
Seriously, shot #2 is a nice grab. If you've indicated
whether the 600 is an AF or MF, I missed it.


It is manual focus.


Do you have stalking wildlife plans or to just check
your reaction to random compression shots until a
direction happens?


I just set the thing up and waved it blindly around
Seriously, I took a few boring pictures of a hot air balloon, then a plane 
took off, and I tried to track it. I couldn't even find it until it was less 
than a third of the viewfinder


Then some rats flew by, and I took some pictures of them.
Then I went home and barbecued a steak, and had it along with a nice 
Carmenare.


It was very relaxing.



While I have no experience hints to pass along, I'm
certain you're going to add a number of dramatic
images to your inventory by its use.
Best part, a new lens,..etc, always stirs the photo
juices anew.


HAR!! I feel so revved!!!
Thanks for looking
Bill





Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza

Charles Robinson wrote:

Looks like the only difference in the DS2 from the DS is the larger 
screen.  STILL has the annoying continuous autofocus only in 'action 
mode' restriction.


Luckily, it's not so. Quoting the (rather misleading) press release:

(quote)
It also offers a choice of AF-single or AF-continuous** AF mode to 
accommodate different types of requirements.
** In the Auto Picture and Picture modes, AF-continuous is activated only 
when the Action mode is selected.

(end of quote)

That means that countinuous AF is activated only when the Action mode is 
selected IF you shoot in the Auto Picture and Picture modes, while it can be 
selected by the user in all other capture modes.


Dario 



Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs



Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one
of
these beasties would be appreciated.


Bill, first of all shoot, shoot and shoot some more.

I don't know what shutter speed you were using but it doesn't appear the
vibration is an issue with your set up.


I was trying to keep the shutter speed up, these were shot at ISO 400, at
around 1/1000 second. The aperture was close to wide open, around f/6.3.


I keep my movement control knobs as tight as I can and still get the
movement I want.


Instinctively, that is what I did also.


I keep my tripod as short as possible to lessen possible vibration (I'm
using a carbon fiber Gitzo which seem somewhat better than an equivalent
aluminum tripod). I drape my left arm  over the barrel of my 600 to load
it
and dampen any potential vibration, but I generally shoot with a high
enough
shutter that this hasn't been a problem.


I saw your tripod, nice rig. I'm using a Zone VI wooden tripod that weighs
about 15 pounds.
I probably had the legs about halfway extended.
It's a pretty solid tripod, and it is the best of the three that I have for
damping shutter/mirror vibration (In case anyone remembers the Tripod
Follies of a while back).

I did try holding down on the lens at the gimbal point, it seemed to help,
but the biggest help was the two second delay. It's not bad for shooting a
hot air balloon, not much good for anything that is actually moving though.

Do you use the shutter button or the remote release?



And shoot, shoot and shoot some more.


I'll do that. I might do some bear hunting in BC in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for looking, and for the advice.
Bill




Fw: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza

Another version of the press release says:

(quote)
AF-continuous available* * In the Auto Picture and Picture modes, 
AF-continuous is activated only when the Action mode is selected.

(end of quote)

The meaning is the same. Continuous AF is user selectabe, unless you are 
using those Picture modes.


Dario



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
John Francis wrote on 22.08.05 4:53:

 Personally I'm more interested in the other announcements - the
 12-24 will ship in October, and there'll be a new flash with the
 power of the 500, bit with all the new high-speed flash abilities.
Let's hope these two annoucements mean that *istD successor is coming sooner
that we think ;-) After all it is about 2 years old ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: *ist-DS2

2005-08-22 Thread Leon Altoff
I'm still waiting for the *istD2.  I don't want an S I want an updated 
original D.


In reality I probably won't buy another camera until there is a 14 (or 
at least 10) megapixel camera out.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


David Oswald wrote:

Announced in Tokyo: The Pentax *ist-DS2.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082101pentaxistds2.asp#specs

Just in time to further fuel the lens price frenzy. ;)







Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
They look it 

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: William Robb

  I want to make some prints and see how it looks. I did 
 a lot of sharpening on the web images.




Re: OT: Aus import matters

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/05, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:

Lenses before camera, sir! You've got one and I believe Miss Beard's got one
too. And I'll have one in the next couple weeks fingers crossed.

Ahh. 70-200.




Cheers,
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Re: *ist-DS2

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/8/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

Announced in Tokyo: The Pentax *ist-DS2.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082101pentaxistds2.asp#specs

Just in time to further fuel the lens price frenzy. ;)


Not available in Europe?? They must be saving the FF 12 MP offering for
us discerning types ;-)



Cheers,
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Re: 3rd time lucky.

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 21/8/05, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.alphoto.com/poodles/index.html

Hey Doug.

I hadn't seen those galleries before and enjoyed them very much, thanks.

I particularly liked:

http://www.alphoto.com/poodles/waiting.html

and

http://www.alphoto.com/poodles/fish.html






Cheers,
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Re: *ist-DS2

2005-08-22 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Interestingly it appears that this camera will not be available in
Europe but should be available elsewhere in the world.
Why??? 

-- 
Best regards,
Alex Sarbu



Tokina ATX 828 80-200 f2.8 SD

2005-08-22 Thread Charles Wilson

Dear All,

I have an opportunity to buy this manual focus lens for $300 Australian. 
The lens has never been used in prime condition and original box.  Has any 
one on the list had any experience with this lens, and is it a good buy. 
The other alternative is to buy the sigma but at over $1500 Australian its 
expensive.


Regards


Charles Wilson
Sydney Australia 





Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
G'day Shel,

Makes me think of a palm tree.

Your right, it is over exposed. I was so rushed I left the camera in
aperture priority with +0.5 stops of exposure compensation dialed in
from earlier in the day. If I were to do it again I would use bulb
instead.

Thanks for looking.

Dave

On 8/21/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't care much for fireworks or fireworks pics, but I like this one -
 the long trail makes it work for me.  However, it appears a bit over
 exposed.
 
 Shel
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: David Savage
 
  This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the
  show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over):
 
  http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd
 
  Cropped a bit off the top  left side, also PS'ed some power lines out
  of the bottom quarter.
 
  Nothing special, just though I'd share.
 
 




Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
G'day Cotty,

Yep. That is my first ever fireworks shot.

 I'm pretty pleased with it. The last 3 shots were pretty ordinary. So
this is a case of pure dumb luck :-)

Glad you enjoyed  thanks for looking.

Dave

On 8/21/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 21/8/05, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd
 
 Cropped a bit off the top  left side, also PS'ed some power lines out
 of the bottom quarter.
 
 Nothing special, just though I'd share. Comments  thoughts always welcome.
 
 That's a lovely shot mate, and it's your first one?? Superb.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
That might have something to do with it Keith :-)

Dave

On 8/22/05, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  I don't care much for fireworks or fireworks pics, but I like this one -
  the long trail makes it work for me.  However, it appears a bit over
  exposed.
 
 That's because he exposure time was 30 seconds, I suppose. g
 
 keith
 
  Shel
 
 
 
 [Original Message]
 From: David Savage
 
 
 This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the
 show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over):
 
 http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd
 
 Cropped a bit off the top  left side, also PS'ed some power lines out
 of the bottom quarter.
 
 Nothing special, just though I'd share.
 




Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
G'day Marnie,

I though it was pretty neat for a first attempt. As I said in my post
to Cotty, pure dumb luck g

Thanks for looking.

Dave

On 8/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 8/21/2005 6:13:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This is my first ever fireworks shot, taken about halfway through the
 show (I only managed 3 more before it was all over):
 
 http://tinyurl.com/9ntwd
 
 Cropped a bit off the top  left side, also PS'ed some power lines out
 of the bottom quarter.
 
 Nothing special, just though I'd share. Comments  thoughts always welcome.
 
 Dave
 =
 Cool shot. You caught it at a good moment.
 
 Marnie aka Doe
 




Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens (please)

2005-08-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Dave Kennedy wrote:


Any idea what that lens will be and when it'll be released?


No. They won't tell us, I don't think :-)


I'm trying to figure out how to replace it. Do I go with the 50-200?


Are you digital-only? If yes (or if you don't mind a bit of vignetting 
at the low end), people here like it.



I
was also toying with saving up for a Tokina or Sigma 70-200/2.8.


Different class in terms of weight and size; if that's OK, then comes 
price.



life was so easy when I didn't NEED a lens.  'Course trying to justify
spending $$$ on a lens after holidays won't be the easiest thing
either.


Good luck :-) I will wait for the FF 50-200; if that comes as a 
reasonably priced replacement for the F70-210, I will be able to sell 
at least the F35-135 and the F70-210, maybe even the FA24-90. Perhaps 
you can do some similar restructuring, just an idea.


Kostas



Re: OT: Aus import matters

2005-08-22 Thread Derby Chang

Ryan Lee wrote:


Thanks Derby, much appreciated. Would you happen to remember how much the
tax and fees added up to as a percentage of the purchase price?

Regards,
Ryan
 



Sorry Ryan, I honestly can't remember. But I do remember not being too 
phased about the UPS fees, and adding everything up, it was cheaper than 
buying locally.  That was when the Aussie peeped above 80c US for a 
little while.


I'd guess the UPS fees were probably around or less than $100 on a 
purchase of the 77mm LTD.


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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Derby Chang

Christian wrote:


on Pentax USA site now
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_DS2/reqID--6919574/subsection--digital_slr

Christian
 



What does freedom in the P... mean?

D



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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder?  Doesn't it also
offer an 8 frame burst?

I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up
considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments.


I hope so. For some reason this release exhibits little significant 
difference over the previous DS releases. According to the spec sheets.
Maybe that's just because there are so many features it's hard to 
absorb and compare.



The BW filter may be nice, but I suspect it's only a desaturated version
of a regular file rather than something special.

Still, contrary to Paul's position, I like the idea that Pentax has come
out with another model that offers even slightly different features.  When
you stop to consider how many subtle variations there are on base
cameras, Pentax's choice to make a few changes and release a camera now
makes more sense than not releasing anything until a major upgrade is
ready.  


I recall the mind-numbing list of Pentax point-and-shoots, like the 
IQ-Zoom series, that differ from each other in zoom capabilities and one 
or two other features, so as to accommodate every possible buyer's 
unique requirements.


You can imagine those offerings as resulting from an ad hoc meeting of 
the engineers, who were tasked with coming up with a matrix listing of 
how it's possible to make one camera different from it's sister, without 
incurring noticeable startup costs.



Like Bruce, I also feel it shows the company is a live and kicking,
and, iirc, the opening price for this puppy is less than the opening price
was for the DS.

Shel 


Yup. It seem like it was Gotta introduce SOMEthing! Let's get to work, 
folks! Viola, the DS2...


Of course, that's just a cursory view. It might end up being a worthy 
addition to the previous releases, but right now nothing stands out as 
particularly significant!


keith



Re: OT: Aus import matters

2005-08-22 Thread Leon Altoff

Hi,

It doesn't matter if it is from a big store or a gift from your aunty 
Mavis, if it has a value - including shipping - that is more than AU$500 
you pay GST on it (more exactly if the bill from Customs is more than 
AU$50).


The most expensive thing we have brought in is a microscope worth 
AU$2900.  We had a brooker handle it for AU$79.


UPS and FedEx fees can be excessive coming into Australia and I would 
ask about that before agreeing to shipping.  We have everything sent via 
the post.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If it is a private sale (i.e. the ebay person doesn't sell 2nd hand goods
professionally), then it shouldn't attract GST. If it is a commerical ebayer,
then I guess it should.




Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
True. It is a plus for Pentax in some ways. I'm just mildly 
disappointed that this wasn't the upgrade announcement many of  us have 
been waiting for. Still, I'm doing fine with the D and can continue in 
that fashion indefinitely. I am excited about the 12-24. Pricey, as I 
expected, but it's a lens I really need. No further enablement 
necessary :-).

Paul
On Aug 21, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder?  Doesn't it 
also

offer an 8 frame burst?

I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up
considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments.

The BW filter may be nice, but I suspect it's only a desaturated 
version

of a regular file rather than something special.

Still, contrary to Paul's position, I like the idea that Pentax has 
come
out with another model that offers even slightly different features.  
When

you stop to consider how many subtle variations there are on base
cameras, Pentax's choice to make a few changes and release a camera now
makes more sense than not releasing anything until a major upgrade is
ready.  Like Bruce, I also feel it shows the company is a live and 
kicking,
and, iirc, the opening price for this puppy is less than the opening 
price

was for the DS.

Shel



[Original Message]
From: Don Sanderson



95%/.95, 8 frame burst, BW filter, under $800WooHoo! ;-)

Don







Re: OT: Aus import matters

2005-08-22 Thread Ryan Lee
Paul, David- Thanks for the input. I'll check with the seller how it ships
through.

Out of curiosity Paul, why wouldn't you do the paperwork yourself? The
purchase is putting me a bit out of pocket, so naturally I'm going to try to
save as much as I can here and there.

Regards,
Ryan


- Original Message - 
From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Aus import matters


 Hi Ryan,

 If its over $1000au you will need to do the formal customs clearance
 paper work (cant remember the exact name), technically you can do it
 yourself, but i wouldnt, each time i have had something that expensive
 come in, i have have hired a customs broker to deal with it for me,
 costs under $100 for his fee.

 You will also have to pay GST.

 HTH

 Paul

 Ryan Lee wrote:

 Lenses before camera, sir! You've got one and I believe Miss Beard's got
one
 too. And I'll have one in the next couple weeks fingers crossed.
 
 Anyway, still hoping anyone out there might have some experience to share
 regarding Aussie customs and mail order. Thanks..
 
 Cheers,
 Ryan
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:01 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: Aus import matters
 
 
 
 
 On 22/8/05, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
 
 Looks reasonably trustworthy..
 
 
 I smell a 1D ;-)))
 
 
 
 
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Re: Back from GFM

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Doug Brewer wrote:

Got back from the GFM Camera Clinic a few hours ago, and must report  
that I had much fun. Saw several regulars like Cesar, Tom Reese, Bill  
Owens and the lurkers, but also had the pleasure of meeting and  talking 
with our own Scott Loveless during his first visit to GFM. I  trust 
that, other than prolonged exposure to me, the weekend went  well for him.


Oh, and I'm reasonably certain there is no truth to the rumor that  
someone donned the absent Mark Roberts' Team Badge and endeavored to  
offend as many attendees and regular mountain visitors as possible,  in 
creative and frequently profane ways.


ahem.


Some how I feel certain we'll end up hearing more detail on THAT item in 
coming days and weeks... ;-0


keith



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Derby Chang

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


John Francis wrote on 22.08.05 4:53:

 


Personally I'm more interested in the other announcements - the
12-24 will ship in October, and there'll be a new flash with the
power of the 500, bit with all the new high-speed flash abilities.
   


Let's hope these two annoucements mean that *istD successor is coming sooner
that we think ;-) After all it is about 2 years old ;-)

 



I'd consider getting a DS2 as a 2nd body. Don't like changing lenses on 
a digital in the field.


D

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pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 1971

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 Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens   [ Dave Kennedy 
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 New Digital SLR Products From Pentax  [ Joseph Tainter 
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 RE: PAW thumbnail page[ Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 Re: accidentally enabled with a 77mm  [ David Savage 
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 Re: OT: Who is behind the scene of K  [ Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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 RE: New Digital SLR Products From Pe  [ Don Sanderson 
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 Re: Pentax warehouse sale, R.I.P. (l  [ Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe  [ Christian 
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 Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pe  [ Paul Stenquist 
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 Re: OT: Photographing insects [ Mark Roberts 
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 Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens   [ Godfrey DiGiorgi 
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 Re: OT: Aus import matters[ Ryan Lee 
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:18:52 -0400
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:54:57 +0200, Frantisek wrote:

 And if you don't think there will be hand shaking with opposite 
 polarity

 extremists, you really don't know extremists in reality (which is
 probably a good thing for you!).

F And I don't even know how to respond to that statement...

I simply meant that there are many cases of e.g.
left-wing extremists becoming right-wing extremists or vice versa.


Actually, it means that they use the same methods: suppressive
dictatorships, convert or die, regardless of whether they claim to be
right- or left-wing.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:37:29 -0400
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Kostas,

Any idea what that lens will be and when it'll be released? I'm
suddenly in the market for something after the untimely demise of my
SMC-F70-210 while on holidays in Newfoundland.  Definitely not the
highlight of my trip.

I'm trying to figure out how to replace it. Do I go with the 50-200? I
was also toying with saving up for a Tokina or Sigma 70-200/2.8. I'm
also toying with finding a half decent 200mm and perhaps start a
transition to primes.

life was so easy when I didn't NEED a lens.  'Course trying to justify
spending $$$ on a lens after holidays won't be the easiest thing
either.

dk

On 8/19/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, John Francis wrote:

Glen, if you are not in a hurry, Pentax are planning to produce a new,
quality telephoto zoom.



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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:40:53 -0600
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*ist DS2, AF540FGZ flash, shipping date for DA 12-24 F4:

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html

Joe

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Godfrey, on the link you posted, I am not sure the 

Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza

keith whaley wrote:


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder?  Doesn't it also
offer an 8 frame burst?

I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up
considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments.


I hope so. For some reason this release exhibits little significant 
difference over the previous DS releases. According to the spec sheets.
Maybe that's just because there are so many features it's hard to absorb 
and compare.


The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure 
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these 
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.


Dario



Re: unsubscribe

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/05, ricksmith, discombobulated, unleashed:


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #1971


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[entire bloody digest]

Sorry mate, that's it - you're signed up for life.




Cheers,
  Cotty




Re: PESO: Artificial Beach

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Jens Bladt wrote:


http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p19136589.html
This is Amager Strandpark in Copenhagen, Øresund. In the background you
can see Øresundsbroen - the bridge between Denmark and Sweden.
The beach is artificially made and was opened to the public recently.
Five shot panorama, handheld, Pentax *ist D, SMC-F 4/24-50mm @ 50mm.
PhotoaVista 3.5.
Regards
Jens Bladt


H. Well done, Jens.
I do have a couple of comments. The first is, I expanded this image on 
screen quite a bit, and the resolution pretty much stayed the same. It 
was sharp and clear thru at least 3 expansions/enlargements.
I didn't look at the statistics of the image, but was impressed with the 
fact that it didn't noticeably degrade as I enlarged it!


Until I enlarged the image, I couldn't distinguish the bridge, now I can 
see it clearly...


Someone (maybe Shel?) will dispute that observation, but...for me and my 
casual viewing, it held up very well.


The second observation is, I call this the beach of partial people.
Look at the very left side of the image, just down from the sand/water 
line, at the people sitting on the beach.
First of all, there are repeated images there. Groups of people repeated 
horizontally. They occur at the far left, and then again a couple of 
inches to the right, the same people show up.
In the foreground, there are two seated (headless) women, one with a 
white top and black pants, the other with a blue-gray top and black 
pants. Just to the right, they appear again, this time with heads!


Just to the left of the first image of the two women, there's a 
bottomless man walking (no, floating!) above the sand!


Then, between those two women I mentioned above, there's a couple of 
women, one holding a baby that appear like they're being beamed up to 
the mother ship!

Their bottom halves, below about shoulder blade level, are fading out!

There are some other repeats in that general area, but that doesn't 
detract from what turned out to be a fun image to keep enlarging to see 
more and more detail!


Thanks for a pleasant distraction this early morning, Jens!

keith whaley



Re: *ist-DS2

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza

Cotty wrote:


Not available in Europe?? They must be saving the FF 12 MP offering for
us discerning types ;-)


Crap. No doubt it will be sold in Europe as well.

Dario



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Derby Chang wrote:


Christian wrote:


on Pentax USA site now
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_DS2/reqID--6919574/subsection--digital_slr 



Christian




What does freedom in the P... mean?

D



[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc


It simply means the ad composer forgot to go back and finish his 
sentence! It also means the proof checker didn't do his or her job, either!


keith



Re: unsubscribe

2005-08-22 Thread Steve Jolly

Cotty wrote:

These are the same people that pop into a bar and see there's no Bud on tap.


I think this mailing list should have beer on tap.  But not Bud.

S



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Dario Bonazza wrote:


keith whaley wrote:


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Ummm ... doesn't the current DS have a 95/95 viewfinder?  Doesn't it 
also offer an 8 frame burst?


I suppose other differences between the DS and the DS2 will show up
considering these are early, and probably PR generated, comments.



I hope so. For some reason this release exhibits little significant 
difference over the previous DS releases. According to the spec sheets.
Maybe that's just because there are so many features it's hard to 
absorb and compare.



The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure 
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these 
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.


Dario


Yes, those ARE significant improvements. Thanks for pointing them out.
I'm sure each of us has pet peeves we'd like to see addressed.
As time goes on, they will all stand up and voice their opinions, and 
we'll gain a deeper understanding of what the newest release offers each 
of us...


Thanks, Dario. That helps!

keith



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Dario Bonazza wrote on 22.08.05 12:25:


The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.

Nice little update I'd say. Just like N for MZ-5 :-)


The N had serious deferences from the 5, exposure lock and the DOF 
preview; actually *electronic* DOF preview.


Kostas



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:

Viola, the DS2...

Also available in double bass and cello flavours.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Dario Bonazza wrote on 22.08.05 12:25:

 The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure
 re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these
 respects. This is enough a reason for making it.
Nice little update I'd say. Just like N for MZ-5 :-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: unsubscribe

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/05, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty wrote:
 These are the same people that pop into a bar and see there's no Bud
on tap.

Must be someone else Steve, I never wrote that 




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Dario Bonazza wrote:

The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure 
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these 
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.


Surely the -D needs an update a whole lot more than the Ds. I don't ge 
it.


Kostas (or is that announcement reserved for 29 August? :-)



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread keithw

Cotty wrote:


On 22/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:



Viola, the DS2...



Also available in double bass and cello flavours.


Cheers,
  Cotty


Ooops! Thanks for the proof reading, Cot ol' chum!

At first, I said, What is he talking about?
Then I saw it!
That's funny!

keith




Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

William Robb wrote:

We in the US had a President some years back by the name of Richard 
Nixon. He uttered a line that became somewhat famous: I am not a 
crook. My reply was meant to be a play on that old phrase.


Didn't he turn out to be a crook?


They (politicians) are all crooks.

Tom Reese




Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Of course, we'd like something better. The new AF540FGZ flash can make our 
good hopes grow...


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax



On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Dario Bonazza wrote:

The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure 
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these 
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.


Surely the -D needs an update a whole lot more than the Ds. I don't ge it.

Kostas (or is that announcement reserved for 29 August? :-)





News from Canon... FF for 3300$

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
So it is true!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082209canoneos5d.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082208canoneos1dmkiin.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082207canonlenses.asp

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread David Sládek

where did you read about the flash???
David

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax


Of course, we'd like something better. The new AF540FGZ flash can make our 
good hopes grow...


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax



On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Dario Bonazza wrote:

The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure 
re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these 
respects. This is enough a reason for making it.


Surely the -D needs an update a whole lot more than the Ds. I don't ge 
it.


Kostas (or is that announcement reserved for 29 August? :-)








Re: Good Sources For Used Gear?

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

Kevin Waterson wrote:

This one time, at band camp, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Adorama



My dealings with Adorama have led to nothing but turmoil. They still owe me
money after double charging me. They owe me again for sending a delivery to
the wrong address, fortunately the reciever forwarded this on and I had to
pick up the cost of freight.

To thier credit, they have maintained an open dialog about the issues via
email, but it is a long drawn out process.


I've had mixed experiences with Adorama as well. I prefer to deal with 
KEH and BH when there are choices of supply.


Tom Reese



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
However, a lot of people have purchased the DS - including people on this
list who had the choice between the DS and the D - and for them, and those
who are yet to buy a DSLR, it is something better.  I was about to buy a DS
- planning to do so this coming week or so - but now I'm thinking about the
DS2 and if its somewhat different/better features are worth waiting for, or
even paying a little extra for.

And for some people, who don't shop the bargain places on the 'net, the
price between the DS and the DS2 appears to be almost nothing at this
point.  There are lots of places selling the DS for around $800.00, the
estimated release price of the DS2.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Dario Bonazza 

 Of course, we'd like something better. 




Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
David Sládek wrote on 22.08.05 13:17:

 where did you read about the flash???
Here, third paragraph:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Fred
 The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure
 re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these
 respects. This is enough a reason for making it.
 Nice little update I'd say. Just like N for MZ-5 :-)

I wonder if there might possibly be some internal electronics updating,
too.  After all, dpreview.com fussed so much about the JPG quality of both
the D and the DS, right?

While there isn't a noticeable resolution advantage shooting RAW the final
image output is certainly sharper than JPEG from the camera.  This is
interesting as one thing we have observed with *ist D JPEG's straight from
the camera is their softness.

Because of its target market the *ist DS is likely to be used mostly by
people shooting JPEG, as we've demonstrated on earlier pages of this review
there's a vast difference in resolution and detail between JPEG and RAW and
it's obvious therefore that a lot of the detail captured by the sensor is
lost by the in-camera processing if you shoot JPEG.

Maybe the DS2 might be improved in this regard?

Fred



Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A simple curves adjustment improves things considerably.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: David Savage 

 Makes me think of a palm tree.

 Your right, it is over exposed. I was so rushed I left the camera in
 aperture priority with +0.5 stops of exposure compensation dialed in
 from earlier in the day. If I were to do it again I would use bulb
 instead.




Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Fred wrote on 22.08.05 13:23:

 I wonder if there might possibly be some internal electronics updating,
 too.  After all, dpreview.com fussed so much about the JPG quality of both
 the D and the DS, right?
 
 While there isn't a noticeable resolution advantage shooting RAW the final
 image output is certainly sharper than JPEG from the camera.  This is
 interesting as one thing we have observed with *ist D JPEG's straight from
 the camera is their softness.
 
 Because of its target market the *ist DS is likely to be used mostly by
 people shooting JPEG, as we've demonstrated on earlier pages of this review
 there's a vast difference in resolution and detail between JPEG and RAW and
 it's obvious therefore that a lot of the detail captured by the sensor is
 lost by the in-camera processing if you shoot JPEG.
 
 Maybe the DS2 might be improved in this regard?
One never knows. At least until someone will get his hands and eye on it ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread David Sládek

Thanks... After some search I found it even on the P - imaging site:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/product--AF540FGZ/reqID--6919653/subsection--Accessories_digital_slr
Cheers
David

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax



David Sládek wrote on 22.08.05 13:17:


where did you read about the flash???

Here, third paragraph:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_4134.html

--
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek







Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Steve Jolly

Fred wrote:

Because of its target market the *ist DS is likely to be used mostly by
people shooting JPEG, as we've demonstrated on earlier pages of this review
there's a vast difference in resolution and detail between JPEG and RAW and
it's obvious therefore that a lot of the detail captured by the sensor is
lost by the in-camera processing if you shoot JPEG.

Maybe the DS2 might be improved in this regard?


Amateur Photographer reported that the DL showed a noticeable 
improvement over the DS in this respect - I'd expect Pentax to put the 
improvements in to the DS2 as well...


S



Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:

Viola, the DS2...
 
 
 Also available in double bass and cello flavours.
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty

Ooops! Thanks for the proof reading, Cot ol' chum!

At first, I said, What is he talking about?
Then I saw it!
That's funny!

Actually a digital camera with a small mouthpiece to blow into as a means
of keeping the camera alive when the battery expires might not be a bad
idea. A small windmill inside generates enough juice to take pictures. A
novelty tone could be engineered in for kid's parties. Nature folk could
have a duck call. This needs to go into 'Items From Our Catalogue' 




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Paw: Five Foot High by Five Foot Wide(plus long story)

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
Interesting account Dave.

In regards to the photo. Hoolie Doolie Do the riders get nose
bleed being up that high? :-) That's a excellent shot.

Dave knows nothing about horses S.

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:27:00 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Folks.
 
 Just getting back from  2 weeks at the Collingwood horse show. Daughter did 
 so so but is
 still in
 the running for  second, so far.
 
 This also goes along with WW's thread a while back with Pro Courtesy.
 
 The OfficialPhoto guy for this show is from Quebec(not that that matters) 
 and he and i
 get along
 very well. This time around he even offered tips to help with my D2H 
 problems.They also
 have a
 fellow from the US and although i get no offers of help,does not bother me if 
 i shoot a
 few
 pic's.(both still film at these big shows)
 
 Any way, when i went back up for the second week(i was only there for 
 Fri--Sundays) there
 was the
 newish on site company there as well. Humm i say.
 
 This is the firm that accosted me at the last show in Barrie,wanting to know 
 who i was, am
 i a
 pro,you must be with a camera like that.Are you here selling pictures, get 
 off my show
 site,etc etc..
 
 Anyway ;long story short, i diffused the situation.
 
 This brings us to my Paw.
 
 The Quebec photographer was hired by Kubota the sponser to shoot the $60,00 
 Grand Prix. I
 heard
 there was a furrer over who was the official person as the newish company 
 kept getting in
 my buddies
 face. However i was asked by Horse Sport magazine, as they had no 
 representation at the
 show, to get
 pictures of the winner,deadline tonight.
 
   
 http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=frankie_Chesler.jpg
 
 Not to evoke extra hard feelings, i kind of hide in the crowd, shot my istD 
 with SMC A
 70-210 F4
 instead of the Big Bertha and now present you with a shot of what 'real horse 
 jumping' is
 like.
 
 Not a great shot, but ok for a stealth. Still prefer the Nikons for this 
 work, but ya
 gotta do what
 ya gotta do eh.:-)
 
 Any way comments appreciated.
 
 Dave
 
 BTW as a side bar. The non official guy actually wandered into the ring where 
 the official
 guy was
 shooting to take pictures, even though he had several shooters in the stands 
 outside.
 
 Official guy said a lot of French words i dont understand.LOL
 
 Anyway the other fellow left after a few shots
 
 Oh and he also had the nerve to ask me on Saturday,my big daughter day, and 
 after behing
 in my face
 the entire Saturday i was at the Barrie show, if i would work for him. One of 
 his shooters
 was sick.
 I said thanks but no thanks, i will be tied up all day helping daughter and 
 others from
 the farm.
  What goes around comes around.
 
 Dave Again and sorry for the ramble
 
 
 




Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/08/22 Mon AM 10:38:34 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
 
 Dario Bonazza wrote on 22.08.05 12:25:
 
  The 2.5 LCD and the capability to use continuous AF at you leisure
  re-position the DS2 over the DL, which had surpassed the DS in these
  respects. This is enough a reason for making it.
 Nice little update I'd say. Just like N for MZ-5 :-)

I seem to remember a number of UK MZ-5 users who were extremely annoyed at the 
introduction of the n, coming as it did only six (ish) months after the 5 
and with no warning, thereby making their camera much less desireable as a 
trade in.

Nowadays, of course, six months is a monster model run.

 
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 Balance is the ultimate good...
 
 Best Regards
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Re: Tokina ATX 828 80-200 f2.8 SD

2005-08-22 Thread Fred
 I have an opportunity to buy this manual focus lens for $300 Australian. 
 The lens has never been used in prime condition and original box.  Has any
 one on the list had any experience with this lens, and is it a good buy.

It's an excellent lens.  I guess $300 AUD (about $225 USD) is a decent
enough price for it, if it's in such good shape, although I have seen
apparently good specimens go for a bit less.  You might want to make sure
it's a Ka-mount lens, though - this model is available both in A and in
pre-A K-mount trim.

Fred



Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
A little different in Chicago...
I dropped my wife and daughter for an early AM flight at Midway Airport here.
It is the old airport in Chicago and surrounded by homes and neighborhood.
I took along the 400mm hoping to get an interesting shot or two.
I pulled into a bit of paved roadway across the street from the airport,
where there was some space because of construction of a parking garage.
I saw the perimeter security guard go by in an SUV. 
On his second pass, he spotted me and turned around to find an exit.
I just packed up and headed to work before he could get thru the fences.
Regards,  Bob S.


On 8/22/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Glen
 Subject: Re: The Photographer's Rights
 
 
 
  I wonder if this thread will ever get back to protecting the rights of
  photographers to use their Pentax cameras for whatever peaceful
  law-abiding purpose they see fit? ;-)
 
 So last night, I decided I wanted to take some pictures with my long
 telephoto lens. I have already spotted the Re/Max balloon low and heading
 west, so with my wife's permission, I give chase, ending up just to the
 northwest of the #1 runway at the airport.
 Set up the big wooden tripod, and put the lens with camera attached onto the
 gimball.
 For quite a while, I observed the airport, took pictures of the balloon, and
 a few of various other things. I probably hung out for a half hour, perhaps
 more.
 A few vehicles went past, one guy asked if it was OK to keep going, he was
 worried about getting in my way
 No hassles, no visits with the local constabulary, no officious persons
 telling me to move on.
 A very pleasant experience, even if the pictures werem't the greatest.
 
 William Robb
 
 




Re: PAW: People Portraits #33 - GDG

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
I like it. Though I think it needs to have the contrast bumped up a tad.

Dave



On 8/22/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This one brings me up to date. :-)
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/33.htm
 
 Comments, critique, flames always appreciated.
 
 enjoy,
 Godfrey
 




Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/08/22 Mon AM 10:51:34 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
 
 Derby Chang wrote:
 
  Christian wrote:
  
  on Pentax USA site now
  http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_DS2/reqID--6919574/subsection--digital_slr
   
 
 
  Christian
 
 
  What does freedom in the P... mean?
  
  D
  
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
 
 It simply means the ad composer forgot to go back and finish his 
 sentence! It also means the proof checker didn't do his or her job, either!
 

Exceptional promo drivel.

I like Back by popular demand () followed by  the new *ist 
DS2.  Might as well just cut and paste some words from a dictionary or 
thesaurus for all the sense it makes.

But, then, promo drivel is read only marginally less than instruction manuals.

mike


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Re: PESO: Artificial Beach

2005-08-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice panorama Jens, but you've got to point out the page has a 'Full
Size' button in the lower right.  After pressing that I could see the
bridge and the headless people.

I rather like the scenery in your next shot too!

Regards,  Bob S.

On 8/22/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p19136589.html
 This is Amager Strandpark in Copenhagen, Øresund. In the background you
 can see Øresundsbroen - the bridge between Denmark and Sweden.
 The beach is artificially made and was opened to the public recently.
 Five shot panorama, handheld, Pentax *ist D, SMC-F 4/24-50mm @ 50mm.
 PhotoaVista 3.5.
 Regards
 Jens Bladt
 




Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Wouldn't a sandbag or a bag of lead shot be better?

It might if you want to carry it!
Try lugging around a 600  the associated tripod/head/misc needed and you'll 
quickly look for ways to minimize the load (or seek a sherpa). VBG

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs

At 08:11 PM 8/21/2005, Kenneth Waller wrote:

I drape my left arm  over the barrel of my 600 to load it
and dampen any potential vibration...

Wouldn't a sandbag or a bag of lead shot be better? It wouldn't exhibit any 
minor muscle tremors, and it wouldn't have blood pulsing through it.

take care,
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Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Launching a war simply because you want to (maybe just for political reasons)
I think all wars are fought for political reasons.

 and convincing others it is a good thing, is certainly different from 
 responding to an outright attack (Pearl Harbor). Or even rushing to the 
 defense of 
 one's allies.
 
 But I shouldn't have said that much. And I'll stop here.

T late :)
Pearl Harbour was the result of failed US foreign policy.
The United States and the United Kingdom reacted to Japanese military actions 
in China by imposing a scrap metal boycott followed by an oil boycott, a freeze 
of assets and the closing of the Panama Canal to Japanese shipping. The only
choice for Japan was to seek oil in South East Asia and with the the Americans
firmly entrenched in Pearl Harbour they had to neutralize the American fleet
or cave into their demands to get out of China.
It was anything but an un-provoked or outright attack, it was a response to
American policy.

Kind regards
Kevin


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Re: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/08/22 Mon AM 11:20:49 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax
 
 However, a lot of people have purchased the DS - including people on this
 list who had the choice between the DS and the D - and for them, and those
 who are yet to buy a DSLR, it is something better.  I was about to buy a DS
 - planning to do so this coming week or so - but now I'm thinking about the
 DS2 and if its somewhat different/better features are worth waiting for, or
 even paying a little extra for.

You may have set yourself an impossible task.  Carefully considering options, 
evaluating prices and then making a decision on the products available all 
takes time.  Given that models are appearing at decreasing intervals, by the 
time one has made a carefully considered decision the data are out of date and 
one has to at least partially start again.  Modern buying requires the consumer 
to either impulse buy (or something very close to it) or to decide beforehand 
on parameters that will cause the buying process to execute.

Or so I am given to understand.  8-)

mike


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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Of course, we'd like something better. The new AF540FGZ flash can make our 
good hopes grow...


I was quite pleased with the announcement. But it looks very bad to me 
compared with the 500. What do people think? I tend to associate 
stylish, down to earth design with attention to detail, durability 
etc, and this does not give good vibes.


The lens looks good too, though I don't think I will ever be able to 
afford one.


Kostas



Re: Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/08/22 Mon AM 11:58:29 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs
 
 Wouldn't a sandbag or a bag of lead shot be better?
 
 It might if you want to carry it!
 Try lugging around a 600  the associated tripod/head/misc needed and you'll 
 quickly look for ways to minimize the load (or seek a sherpa). VBG
 
 Kenneth Waller

It's alright.  Bill's got a truck.
http://www.completealbumlyrics.com/lyric/16974/Weird+Al+Yankovich+-+Truck+Drivin%27+Song.html

8-)

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs
 
 At 08:11 PM 8/21/2005, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
 I drape my left arm  over the barrel of my 600 to load it
 and dampen any potential vibration...
 
 Wouldn't a sandbag or a bag of lead shot be better? It wouldn't exhibit any 
 minor muscle tremors, and it wouldn't have blood pulsing through it.
 
 take care,
 Glen
 
 
 
 
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Re: Tokina ATX 828 80-200 f2.8 SD

2005-08-22 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The other alternative is to buy the sigma but at over $1500 Australian its 
 expensive.

Where did you find the Sigma? 
Everywhere I look they tell me they need to order one in from the US.

Kind regards
Kevin


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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: PESO: Artificial Beach

2005-08-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Artifical people?
Interesting. Apparently you were using the new partial people filter on the LH 
side shot!
And you thought you could sneak it by!
I count several torso-less  several head-less people.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: Artificial Beach

http://gallery13117.fotopic.net/p19136589.html
This is Amager Strandpark in Copenhagen, Øresund. In the background you
can see Øresundsbroen - the bridge between Denmark and Sweden.
The beach is artificially made and was opened to the public recently.
Five shot panorama, handheld, Pentax *ist D, SMC-F 4/24-50mm @ 50mm.
PhotoaVista 3.5.
Regards
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Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

William Robb wrote:

I finally managed to get out with the 600 and do some shooting.
This les is a challenge to shoot with, to be sure.
Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one 
of these beasties would be appreciated.


Anyway, a couple of my less embarrasing atempts with the big gun are 
here

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats1.html
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/wingedrats2.html


The lens is twitchy for sure. For maximum sharpness, I recommend use of 
a very solid tripod, a cable release and mirror lockup when you can. Use 
all three if your subject allows it. Tripod and cable release together 
will go a long way toward getting sharp images.


Wind can be a big problem in my experience. The lens stays in its case 
when there's more than a moderate breeze.


I also try not to ask too much of it. It can't fix atmospheric haze or 
heat shimmer. I prefer to shoot stuff that's a little closer in than 
what you did with those shots.


A suggestion for having fun with the lens:

Put a table out in the yard with some birdseed on it. Try to place the 
table near a tree. Birds will land in the tree before they hop down to 
the table. Shoot them in the tree (I hate birdfeeder pictures). Birds 
are nervous critters and don't stay still for even a second. Try to work 
from a concealed position if possible.


Keep practicing.

Tom Reese







Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Probably the single most important feature of the AF540FGZ is P-TTL, thus 
addressing the problem the AF500FTZ has with digital SLR's. For that reason 
I bought the Sigma EF500DG Super (which works fine).


The AF540FGZ also has auto flash mode (missing on the AF500FTZ), it accepts 
TR Power Pack II external supply, it covers 24-85mm  lens FOV (20mm with 
wide-angle diffuser). All those FOV's are 35mm format equivalent. And it has 
spotbeam AF illuminator you can use without using the flash! Then it also 
gives you info about coverage for digital, 35mm, 645 and 67 systems, and so 
on. It's even equipped with a sliding catch-light panel... It looks like a 
serious flash unit!


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax



On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Of course, we'd like something better. The new AF540FGZ flash can make 
our good hopes grow...


I was quite pleased with the announcement. But it looks very bad to me 
compared with the 500. What do people think? I tend to associate stylish, 
down to earth design with attention to detail, durability etc, and this 
does not give good vibes.


The lens looks good too, though I don't think I will ever be able to 
afford one.


Kostas





Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

William Robb wrote:

...so I tried 
to take a picture of an airliner taking off.
Couldn't track it until it was a mere speck, so I decided to try 
something slower moving.


Now you understand how frustrated I was trying to shoot eagles on the 
fly a few weeks ago. Panning with that lens is a challenge. I don't have 
any suggestions for improvement there except to take a gunnery class.


Tom Reese



Re: A couple of PESOs

2005-08-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Do you use the shutter button or the remote release?

I generally use the shutter release.

From the look of your lens/mount setup it appears that this lens was built 
without a thought to balance on a tripod head or it was made to be used with a 
very heavy body.

If you are going to fiddle with your set up you might want to think about a 
lens rest at the far end of the mounting plate (the other end from where the 
plate attaches to the lens. As you have it now, there's a long cantilever arm 
from the lens plate mount to the end of the plate at the head. 

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs


- Original Message - 
From: Kenneth Waller
Subject: Re: A couple of PESOs


 Anyone using long lenses (Ken, Tom!!!) any tips or advice for using one
 of
 these beasties would be appreciated.

 Bill, first of all shoot, shoot and shoot some more.

 I don't know what shutter speed you were using but it doesn't appear the
 vibration is an issue with your set up.

I was trying to keep the shutter speed up, these were shot at ISO 400, at
around 1/1000 second. The aperture was close to wide open, around f/6.3.

 I keep my movement control knobs as tight as I can and still get the
 movement I want.

Instinctively, that is what I did also.

 I keep my tripod as short as possible to lessen possible vibration (I'm
 using a carbon fiber Gitzo which seem somewhat better than an equivalent
 aluminum tripod). I drape my left arm  over the barrel of my 600 to load
 it
 and dampen any potential vibration, but I generally shoot with a high
 enough
 shutter that this hasn't been a problem.

I saw your tripod, nice rig. I'm using a Zone VI wooden tripod that weighs
about 15 pounds.
I probably had the legs about halfway extended.
It's a pretty solid tripod, and it is the best of the three that I have for
damping shutter/mirror vibration (In case anyone remembers the Tripod
Follies of a while back).

I did try holding down on the lens at the gimbal point, it seemed to help,
but the biggest help was the two second delay. It's not bad for shooting a
hot air balloon, not much good for anything that is actually moving though.

Do you use the shutter button or the remote release?


 And shoot, shoot and shoot some more.

I'll do that. I might do some bear hunting in BC in a couple of weeks.

Thanks for looking, and for the advice.
Bill





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Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 02:55:03 -0700, keithw wrote:

Yup. It seem like it was Gotta introduce SOMEthing! Let's get to work, 
folks! Viola, the DS2...

Of course, that's just a cursory view. It might end up being a worthy 
addition to the previous releases, but right now nothing stands out as 
particularly significant!

Or something much more pragmatic, like:

Pentax warehouse: we are running out of the small LCD's for the DS :-)

Regards, JvW

--
Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery




Back from Rochester

2005-08-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Had a good weekend in Rochester. Didn't get to do everything I wanted
but did have some interesting talks with various friends from Kodak.
Morale is really at rock bottom there, I'm afraid. Last week Lisa and I
were talking about plans for when I finish my masters degree next year
and I realized I wouldn't even consider a job at Kodak because I don't
have any confidence in their prospects for long term survival. I
mentioned this to one of my friends and he confirmed that this attitude
is common and is causing them real problems. He said the only way they
can get experienced engineers to work for them is to recruit from
overseas, effectively going for people just use Kodak as a way to get a
green card, as he put it. :(

I do have some good news, though. What's more it's on-topic for this
list! One of my marathon training friends noticed my Pentax camera and
said Hey' we're making stuff for Pentax. Turns out he's in the imaging
chip division and is familiar with the 18 megapixel chip going into the
645D. He says the sensor is really good. It's undergoing final design
tweaks at the moment, but nothing that affects operation, so Pentax
engineers probably have prototypes to work with and won't have to change
anything for production chips. The sensor should go into production late
this year or early next year. That means the 645D should go into
production shortly thereafter or possible even simultaneously.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Full specs for the AF540FGZ

2005-08-22 Thread Dario Bonazza

PENTAX Markets a Powerful Clip-on Auto Flash with Auto Zoom Head and
Digital-SLR Compatibility

PENTAX Corporation is pleased to announce the marketing of the PENTAX
AF540FGZ auto flash unit. Featuring a large guide number of 54 (at
ISO100/m), this clip-on-type auto-zoom flash provides a variety of advanced
flash applications, including P-TTL auto flash, high-speed synchronization
and wireless P-TTL auto flash, when mounted on a PENTAX SLR camera.

Major features

1. Large guide number
Despite its compact dimensions and clip-on design, the AF540FGZ auto flash
offers a large guide number of 54 (at ISO100/m) to accommodate a wide range
of flash applications.

2. Advanced auto flash functions
The AF540FGZ features a variety of flash functions, including advanced P-TTL
auto flash in which a pre-emission from its spotbeam projector is detected
by the camera’s light sensor to accurately control the main discharge level
needed for proper illumination of the subject. Other functions include TTL
auto flash, auto flash, manual flash, high-speed synchronization and
wireless P-TTL.

3. Auto discharge-angle adjustment
When mounted on a PENTAX autofocus SLR (after the Z-10 and including
digital-format models) equipped with an FA-, FA J-, DFA- or DA- series lens,
the AF540FGZ automatically adjusts its angle of discharge to the lens’ focal
length.*
* This automatic function may not be available for certain combinations of a
camera body and a lens.

4. Others
1) “Digital” position newly provided on the focal-length conversion scale of
the zoom head to accommodate digital SLRs.
2) Bounce flash function, with adjustable angles of –10 to 90 degrees
vertically and up to 180 degrees horizontally.
3) Power-zoom flash head to cover angles of view for 24mm to 85mm lenses (in
35mm format).
4) Built-in wide-angle panel that slides out to cover 20mm angle of view (in
35mm format).
5) Built-in catch-light panel, which is useful and effective in portrait
photography
6) External power supply with the optional TR Power Pack II.
7) Battery-saving auto power-off function (user cancellation possible).

Main Specifications

Type: Clip-on-type auto-zoom P-TTL auto flash with active spotbeam projector
Flash control: (1) TTL-series-control auto flash; (2) Manual flash
Flash modes: (1) P-TTL (TTL corrective auto flash, contrast-control auto
flash); (2) TTL (TTL auto flash); (3) A (programmed auto flash); (4) M
(manual flash); (5) SB (spotbeam emission only)
Discharge angles: 31°-78° horizontally (98° with wide-angle panel); 23°-60°
vertically (85° with wide-angle panel)
Bounce flash: Variable-angle type. (1) Vertical click-stop settings: -10°,
0°, 30°, 45°, 60°, 75° 90° (with click-stop lock for a shift from 0°
to –10°); (2) Horizontal click-stop settings (clockwise): 0°, 30°, 60°, 90°,
120°, 150°,
180°; (3) Horizontal click-stop settings (counterclockwise): 0°, 30°, 60°,
90°, 135°
Focal-length coverage: Zoom type, covering angles of view for 24mm, 28mm,
35mm, 50mm, 70mm, 85mm lenses (in 35mm format). 20mm angle of view
covered with wide-angle panel
Guide number: 54 max. (at ISO100/m). Manual setting at 7 levels: Full, 1/2,
1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64
Flash range (in P-TTL, TTL and A modes): (1) Film speed coupling range:
ISO25 - ISO1600; (2) Illumination range: 0.8m - 8.0m (at G.N.45, ISO100,
F5.6)
Flash interval and battery life: (1) Approx. 6-second interval, approx. 200
full-level discharges (with alkaline batteries); (2) Approx. 6-second
interval, approx. 350 full-level discharges (with lithium batteries); (3)
Approx. 6-second interval, approx. 250 full-level discharges (with Ni-MH 
batteries)

Consecutive discharge: More than 50 discharges (at 1/16-level setting and 2
frames-per-second speed, with alkaline batteries)
Color temperature balance: Daylight
Wireless modes: (1) MASTER (discharge level control and main discharge by
optical control); (2) CONTROL (discharge level control by optical control);
(3) SLAVE (contrast-control discharge by optical control, or slave discharge
at main discharge)
Synchronization modes: (1) Leading-shutter-curtain sync; (2)
Trailing-shutter-curtain sync; (3) Contrast-control sync; (4) High-speed
sync
External LCD indication: (1) Format; (2) Flash mode; (3) Zoom; (4) Channel;
(5) ISO speed; (6) Discharge level compensation; (7) Spotbeam; (8) F number;
(9) Discharge level; (10) Wireless mode; (11) Bounce flash warning; (12) 
Sync

mode; (13) Discharge distance; (14) Out-of-coupling-range warning. LED
illumination available.
Format indication: Coupled with digital, 35mm, 645, 67 formats. Zoom display
function available.
Other functions: (1) Auto power-off (user cancellation possible); (2) Test
discharge; (3) Modeling light; (4) Spotbeam projector; (5) Red-eye
reduction; (6) Wide-angle panel (covering 20mm angle of view in 35mm
format); (7)
Catch-light panel
Power source: (1) 4 AA-size alkaline batteries; (2) 4 AA-size lithium
batteries; (3) 4 AA-size Ni-MH batteries; (4) TR Power Pack II
Dimensions (H x W x D): 

Re: *ist-DS2

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu 
Subject: Re: *ist-DS2




Interestingly it appears that this camera will not be available in
Europe but should be available elsewhere in the world.
Why??? 


Your pictures aren't worth a Pentax..
WW



Re: unsubscribe

2005-08-22 Thread William Robb

Ferget it.
WW
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:34 AM
Subject: unsubscribe







Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens (please)

2005-08-22 Thread Dave Kennedy
That's part of my problem. Since getting the digital body, I've been
shooting almost exclusively digital, but I'm not certain I want to
hang up the film bodies yet.

So am I hearing that the performance of the DA50-200 would be
comparable to the F70-210? (for Digital).


I guess a more generic question is : 
Is the DA50-200 designed to complement the 16-45 or the 18-55?
Price-wise it looks like the 18-55, but I'm wondering in terms of
performance.

Sorry if this has been discussed, but just being back from vacation, I
haven't had any time to start weeding through PDML emails.


dk

On 8/21/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd go for the DA50-200 if you're using the digital bodies. It's  
 light, small, has just a little more range, and is very reasonably  
 priced.
 
 Godfrey
 




Re: Back from Rochester

2005-08-22 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Mark Roberts wrote on 22.08.05 14:47:

 Had a good weekend in Rochester. Didn't get to do everything I wanted
 but did have some interesting talks with various friends from Kodak.
 Morale is really at rock bottom there, I'm afraid. Last week Lisa and I
 were talking about plans for when I finish my masters degree next year
 and I realized I wouldn't even consider a job at Kodak because I don't
 have any confidence in their prospects for long term survival. I
 mentioned this to one of my friends and he confirmed that this attitude
 is common and is causing them real problems. He said the only way they
 can get experienced engineers to work for them is to recruit from
 overseas, effectively going for people just use Kodak as a way to get a
 green card, as he put it. :(
That's sad. Let's hope they'll get better as soon as 645D starts to sell ;-)

 I do have some good news, though. What's more it's on-topic for this
 list! One of my marathon training friends noticed my Pentax camera and
 said Hey' we're making stuff for Pentax. Turns out he's in the imaging
 chip division and is familiar with the 18 megapixel chip going into the
 645D. He says the sensor is really good. It's undergoing final design
 tweaks at the moment, but nothing that affects operation, so Pentax
 engineers probably have prototypes to work with and won't have to change
 anything for production chips. The sensor should go into production late
 this year or early next year. That means the 645D should go into
 production shortly thereafter or possible even simultaneously.
That's indeed very good news for many serious outdoor shooters. Let's hope
645 will have price tag that'll make it the most popular digital 645 camera.

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: Full specs for the AF540FGZ

2005-08-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Wow. This sounds like a *serious* flash!
Very good news indeed.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Help me pick a Pentax Zoom Lens (please)

2005-08-22 Thread Dave Kennedy
I guess that's where I  am. Is this a time to re-evaluate everything
and start some longer term plans to slowly upgrade (starting with
this), or do I just find another F70-210 or equivelant. I know if I
came across a Camera store in rural Newfoundland, I would have (well
tried to) bought anything in the range.

dk

On 8/22/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Dave Kennedy wrote:
 
  Any idea what that lens will be and when it'll be released?
 
 No. They won't tell us, I don't think :-)
 
  I'm trying to figure out how to replace it. Do I go with the 50-200?
 
 Are you digital-only? If yes (or if you don't mind a bit of vignetting 
 at the low end), people here like it.
 
  I
  was also toying with saving up for a Tokina or Sigma 70-200/2.8.
 
 Different class in terms of weight and size; if that's OK, then comes 
 price.
 
  life was so easy when I didn't NEED a lens.  'Course trying to justify
  spending $$$ on a lens after holidays won't be the easiest thing
  either.
 
 Good luck :-) I will wait for the FF 50-200; if that comes as a 
 reasonably priced replacement for the F70-210, I will be able to sell 
 at least the F35-135 and the F70-210, maybe even the FA24-90. Perhaps 
 you can do some similar restructuring, just an idea.
 
 Kostas
 




Re: OT: Photographing insects

2005-08-22 Thread Bob Shell


On Sunday, August 21, 2005, at 09:35  PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


My SO and I moved to Pittsburgh 3 years ago. Every summer, beginning in
August, we've heard (but not seen) what we have taken to calling a
clickety bug. It makes an click-click-click-click-click noise (from 5
to 25 clicks) and then pauses for a minute or more. Unlike crickets, 
for

example, these bugs don't seem to exist in great numbers, as we can
usually detect no more than 4-5 of them in the immediate area. Any
suggestions as to what it might be? Just curious - and we have been for
3 years ;-)



Indoors or outdoors?

There is something called the Deathwatch Beetle, a wood borer that is 
sometimes found in old houses.  It makes a clicking sound that people 
used to think sounded like a pocket watch or clock ticking.  There was 
a superstition that this was the countdown to someone in the house's 
death.  The beetle makes the sound by banging its head against the wall 
of its tunnel in the wood.


If outdoors, I'm not sure.  Probably something in the grasshopper or 
cricket clan.  My specialty was butterflies, and they're not very noisy!


Bob



Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
All true, except that the Japanese were waging an aggressive war of 
imperial expansion on the Chinese mainland, (where the Japanese army 
used rape and plague as weapons), and had previously fought a short 
undeclared war with the Soviet Union, (in which Marshal Zhukov handed 
them their heads), which helped them decide to fight the United States 
and Britain, taking the Southern Strategy because they thought we 
would be easier to knock out of a war.  It was probably impossible to 
avoid conflict with the Japanese without ceding them hegemony over Asia 
and the Western Pacific.


Kevin Waterson wrote:


This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Launching a war simply because you want to (maybe just for political reasons)
   


I think all wars are fought for political reasons.

 

and convincing others it is a good thing, is certainly different from 
responding to an outright attack (Pearl Harbor). Or even rushing to the defense of 
one's allies.


But I shouldn't have said that much. And I'll stop here.
   



T late :)
Pearl Harbour was the result of failed US foreign policy.
The United States and the United Kingdom reacted to Japanese military actions 
in China by imposing a scrap metal boycott followed by an oil boycott, a freeze 
of assets and the closing of the Panama Canal to Japanese shipping. The only

choice for Japan was to seek oil in South East Asia and with the the Americans
firmly entrenched in Pearl Harbour they had to neutralize the American fleet
or cave into their demands to get out of China.
It was anything but an un-provoked or outright attack, it was a response to
American policy.

Kind regards
Kevin


 




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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: unsubscribe

2005-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling

You'll never get out that way...

ricksmith wrote:

entire digest snipped

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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT: Naples Bay

2005-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

I saw that movie.  Very good.

Thanks for the tip.

I think this is the first time I've ever skrev, however. . .

Dan

DagT wrote:

I´ve been to Procida on the north side of the bay, and sea was calm 
there all of that week in october 5 years ago, but some Italian member 
could probably give you more details.


You should also visit Procida, a very nice place and the home of Il 
Postino

http://www.lone-star.net/literature/postino/
http://www.traveltastes.com/procida.htm

DagT
http://dag.foto.no

På 22. aug. 2005 kl. 00.26 skrev Daniel Matyola:



My wife and I are considering a trip this spring to Naples,
Sorrento, and Amalfi.

We would like to take a day trip to Capri, and perhaps another to
Ischia.  I have heard, however, that the trip across the Bay of
Naples can be very rough, even on a hydrofoil.

Does anyone has any experience with that trip?  Any comments or
advice would be appreciated.

Dan M






Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling

You fishing for a response here.

Cotty wrote:


On 22/8/05, keithw, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


Viola, the DS2...
   



Also available in double bass and cello flavours.




Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_



 




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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
So your point is that the Japanese were justified in bombing Pearl 
Harbor so that they could continue the rape of Nanking?  Interesting 
perspective.


Kevin Waterson wrote:


This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Launching a war simply because you want to (maybe just for political reasons)
   


I think all wars are fought for political reasons.

 

and convincing others it is a good thing, is certainly different from 
responding to an outright attack (Pearl Harbor). Or even rushing to the defense of 
one's allies.


But I shouldn't have said that much. And I'll stop here.
   



T late :)
Pearl Harbour was the result of failed US foreign policy.
The United States and the United Kingdom reacted to Japanese military actions 
in China by imposing a scrap metal boycott followed by an oil boycott, a freeze 
of assets and the closing of the Panama Canal to Japanese shipping. The only

choice for Japan was to seek oil in South East Asia and with the the Americans
firmly entrenched in Pearl Harbour they had to neutralize the American fleet
or cave into their demands to get out of China.
It was anything but an un-provoked or outright attack, it was a response to
American policy.

Kind regards
Kevin
 





Re: New Digital SLR Products From Pentax

2005-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a web site, probably one and the same.  It's not like you have to 
be careful no real production is involved. :-\


keithw wrote:


Derby Chang wrote:


Christian wrote:


on Pentax USA site now
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_DS2/reqID--6919574/subsection--digital_slr 



Christian






What does freedom in the P... mean?

D



[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc



It simply means the ad composer forgot to go back and finish his 
sentence! It also means the proof checker didn't do his or her job, 
either!


keith





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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: News from Canon... FF for 3300$

2005-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Sadly I don't care, I'd either have to buy Canon glass, or butcher my K 
mounts.


Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


So it is true!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082209canoneos5d.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082208canoneos1dmkiin.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05082207canonlenses.asp

 




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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: OT: Photographing insects

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

Bob Shell wrote:

 My specialty was butterflies, and they're not very noisy!

that depends on the severity of the hangover.

Tom Reese



Re: Back from GFM

2005-08-22 Thread Tom Reese

Doug Brewer wrote:
Got back from the GFM Camera Clinic a few hours ago, and must report  
that I had much fun. Saw several regulars like Cesar, Tom Reese, Bill  
Owens and the lurkers, but also had the pleasure of meeting and  talking 
with our own Scott Loveless during his first visit to GFM. I  trust 
that, other than prolonged exposure to me, the weekend went  well for him.


Oh, and I'm reasonably certain there is no truth to the rumor that  
someone donned the absent Mark Roberts' Team Badge and endeavored to  
offend as many attendees and regular mountain visitors as possible,  in 
creative and frequently profane ways.


ahem.


I got in at 10:30 PM. Return trip was two hours shorter than the trip down.

I too had lots of fun. Good programs (great job, thank you Don!). The 
lecturers sure lead some interesting lives.


It was great seeing Doug, Nico, Cesar, Bill, Charles and Scott again.

I hope Cesar is okay. He spent the entire weekend with his tongue 
dragging on the ground.


I want to extend a special thank you to Scott for the Heineken. They 
sure hit the spot.


Nico, I'd like to hear about the results of your lens comparision 
experiment.


Doug, thanks for the always interesting conversation. Hopefully, we'll 
take a putt together sometime.


For everyone else, these various PDML get togethers are always a blast. 
I urge you to make every effort to attend one in your area. The 
Grandfather Mountain ones are very special. I can't wait for the NPW.


Tom Reese



Re: PESO: Sky Fire

2005-08-22 Thread David Savage
True. I was just being half arsed with my post processing g. I've
add a revised version.

http://tinyurl.com/7aafx

Dave

On 8/22/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A simple curves adjustment improves things considerably.
 
 Shel



Re: The Photographer's Rights

2005-08-22 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So your point is that the Japanese were justified in bombing Pearl 
 Harbor so that they could continue the rape of Nanking?

No, those are your words. I made no point about justification and we
have all seen how Americans use sexual misconduct during war in Iraq.
Please do not try to take sort of non-existent moral high ground here.

Kevin

-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



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