Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
In the Pentax press release, they say about Samsung Techwin line of business: Development and manufacture of cameras, aircraft engines, gas turbines, turbo equipment, optical electronics devices, semiconductors and lead frames. Helicopter shuttle services and etc. So, what's a lead frame? Dario
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
Rob Studdert wrote on 14.10.05 3:28: However just because they are successful producers of VLSIs such as RAM doesn't mean that they can produce a decent optical sensor. Yes, it doesn't. But it seems that they want to be good in that matter and who knows if they soon release high quality APS-C sized CMOS sensor? So far they claim their new sensors have 50% better sensitivity: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05062703samsung_5mpcmos.asp -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Re: Editing in RGB or HSB/HSL/LAB ?
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/14 Fri AM 12:43:58 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Editing in RGB or HSB/HSL/LAB ? if you are getting paid for this, maybe it's time to buy the space. i normally carry 12G with me, even though the D2X compressed NEF files + JPEG at full resolution and normal quality are typically no larger combined than the *istD RAW files. if i am willing to carry older and slower memory cards too, i can add another 8G to that. If you slice off the top few percent that skew the distribution, I think you might be suprised what the average salary is in the Czech Republic. You shouldn't be suprised where a freelance press photographer comes in that distribution. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/14 Fri AM 02:31:06 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs mike wilson wrote: NEED it? I don't even WANT it! 8-) Mark, I hate to keep bugging you, but ... I wrote something interesting? I promise I won't make a habit of it. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:23:00 +0200, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Pentax press release, they say about Samsung Techwin line of business: Development and manufacture of cameras, aircraft engines, gas turbines, turbo equipment, optical electronics devices, semiconductors and lead frames. Helicopter shuttle services and etc. So, what's a lead frame? Probably cheaper than a stainless steel frame ;-) Seriously: http://www.semiconfareast.com/leadframes.htm -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Interesting NEWS story
From: William Robb Poor taste for sure, but a felony? And who gets to decide just waht improper photography is? http://www.ksat.com/news/5079899/detail.html Note to self: Next time I go taking shots of the local girlies miniskirts at the hockey match use the MX rather than the D. At least the police can't (easily) see what's on there :-) Rob. NO,NO,NO its NOT serious and I don't. See the smiley, what do you mean you want to look at my hard disc?
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
Plasma TV is just NICE to have. Could be substituted by a home cinema projector any day. Pentax photographic equipment, otoh, is NEED to have. Simple as that. Wish I had a canoe, though... Jostein (insert smileys as appropriate) Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You think we're rich? Country Club, yacht? I don't golf and the biggest boat I'll ever own is probably what I have now, a 17 ft canoe. Of course the answer to the earlier question... need? Of course not. I don't need 2/3 or more of what I have. I don't even NEED my first SLR, the MX. I could still have only the Kenwood component system I bought in 1981 (which I still use and is beautifully simple and elegant)... but that doesn't seem to be the way in western capitalist societies... BTW, both my cars were purchased used... Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:54:31 -0400 You don't think these guys are going to buy a $200 TV. Why they would be laughed out of their country club, and the yacht club would sink their boat (sorry, 200 meter yacht). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, keith_w wrote: But, all that 's beside the original point. This particular conversation isn't about watching TV, it's supposed to be about the horrid cost of television receivers today, regardless of the end use to which it's put. Yes, what happened to CRTs? Do you need that expensive stuff? Kostas This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Yup, you're quite right. Sorry for doubting you. $300 million is a lot of money! John On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:11:04 +0100, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe my post said, US$300,000,000 which is US Dollars. But maybe I was reading too much between the lines. You can read the article on CNN yourself to decide. The article is here: http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/10/13/samsung.price.fixing.ap/index.html Enjoy! Dave John Forbes wrote: $300 million? In what jurisdiction? And do you mean dollars or Korean Won? John On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:57:09 +0100, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 13 Oct 2005 at 23:38, Dario Bonazza wrote: I believe it's been added some more info since I read this page first: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp Nothing detailed, though. I've always wanted a pentaprism on a mobile phone. On a separate note, Samsung was just convicted of price fixing of memory chips, and ordered to pay a US$300,000,000 (300 million) fine. They're the third major memory manufacurer to either plead guilty or be handed a conviction. Micron was also involved apparently, but won't face charges since they've cooperated with authorities (maybe they were the whistle blowers). I remember a few years back hearing accusations by Olympus and other Japanese camera manufacturers that the Korean companies like Samsung were dumping digital cameras on the market below cost to try to grab market share. I'm not sure how much truth there was to that accusation, but it could be one more black mark on Samsung. This post doesn't have any particular point other than to call out a few interesting tidbits regarding Pentax's new partner. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:23:00 +0200, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Pentax press release, they say about Samsung Techwin line of business: Development and manufacture of cameras, aircraft engines, gas turbines, turbo equipment, optical electronics devices, semiconductors and lead frames. Helicopter shuttle services and etc. So, what's a lead frame? Probably cheaper than a stainless steel frame ;-) I was also thinking of a possible *istDSam with a lead frame ;-) Seriously: http://www.semiconfareast.com/leadframes.htm Thanks Lucas, Dario
Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the question. Why on earth I would want to buy a 8GB compact flash (for serious money) if I can buy a couple of 1 GBs and as much as 80GB hard drive for PD7X? I am not talking about extreme conditions or shooting with MF digital back. I am talking about regular amateur shooting with 6-8 MP camera on his vacation or some other favorite photo location of his. What do you say? Pro large CF: If you go hiking, weight is important. Without the drive it's one less gadget to manage. And recharge batteries for. Con large CF: If it fails, you're miserable. Price. Price. And price...:-( I'd say the cons outweigh the pros. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Wonderful shot Marco. Although I have to respectfully disagree with Godfrey. The OOF man adds to it because enough detail is visible that he appears to be looking at the couple, and they are totally oblivious. That's what makes it work for me. Well done. Dave On 10/14/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Studdert wrote on 14.10.05 3:28: However just because they are successful producers of VLSIs such as RAM doesn't mean that they can produce a decent optical sensor. Yes, it doesn't. But it seems that they want to be good in that matter and who knows if they soon release high quality APS-C sized CMOS sensor? So far they claim their new sensors have 50% better sensitivity: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05062703samsung_5mpcmos.asp Even better: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Samsung-announces-7-megapixel-CMOS-Sensor.htm DagT
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
Ach, that's nowt. My Quad 303 amp, purchased in Jamaica in 1976, still gives excellent service, though I did have the capacitors changed nine years ago. I'll change them again in 2016. I'm sorry I don't still have the electrostatic speakers. John On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:39:27 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs I could still have only the Kenwood component system I bought in 1981 (which I still use and is beautifully simple and elegant)... I am still using, and enjoying, a JVC AX-5 amp and Celestion Ditton 332 speakers on a daily basis. I purchased that equipment new in June of 1981. William Robb -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: A quick blurb as I delurk.
Cesar, I did try to send you a personal email a few days ago, but it was returned undelivered. I have replied to your latest email, but expect the same to happen again. If that happens, I will ring your cousin. Regards John On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:23:10 +0100, Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about all the silence. It has been too hectic here. To give you an idea, I am shooting an Air Force retirement ceremony, a farewell luncheon for two people, and then a golf tourney tomorrow. Saturday will be a sprint triathlon - and then I have to get the results out to the media and onto the web. Sunday will be my only time to recoup and then pack as Monday I head for London. I have not seen any interest in a London get-together except for John Forbes. Oh well, I will try to get with him off-list. I will be in touch, hopefully, with Cotty since I do not know how my internet connectivity will be over there and I will be unsubscribing later in the weekend. Too far behind to comment on individual posts... César Panama City, Florida -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.0/132 - Release Date: 13/10/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
Anthony Farr wrote: -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (prior message snipped) CRTs are too costly to ship and produce and new technologies always demand a premium especially when there are marketable benefits and cool technology labels. It's becoming very difficult to buy any kind of CRT TV/monitor in Australia. Rob Studdert Besides which, CRT TVs are exceedingly difficult to keep in alignment as size increases. Last year we needed a new TV so bought a Panasonic 76cm, 16:9 ratio CRT. It was unmitigated crap. This is pertinent, as I'm looking at that very range myself. On reflectin, it seems to me the problem might be coming from having the CRT adhere to the display ratio... If the screen dieplay was square, I'll bet all squiggless would go away. But, that might be just my illusion. The colours were diverged and the amplitude of the raster (ie the picture width) fluctuated noticeably as the picture's brightness changed, suggesting to me that the internal power supply was barely adequate to support the picture, and had no excess capacity to keep the picture size stable as the content changed. Sets this size are already in a weight class that makes it very difficult for the owner to haul around, move, and so on. 105 lb. plus. So, if they can pare weight off the total package, I suspect they do it. Where better than a heavy power supply transformer? That's one place you can't miniaturize things much, or as you've seen, performance becomes iffy. Like plenty of RAM in your computer, and a big memory card in your digital, things just run more smoothly when you over-spec the power supply... We learned that back in the old vacuum tube days. Talk about heavy amplifiers! But, the best performing ones turned out to be the heaviest ones! Panasonic wiped their hands of our problem by claiming that our set was within tolerance although they never did state what those tolerances were. So, we returned to the vendor, gave our story, and got a FULL refund. A good illustration for buying from a local vendor, if you possibly can. They will take good care of the customer service end of things. You can't do that long distance. Then we chose a Telefunken set with the same specs as the Panasonic, which was $500 cheaper than the Panasonic yet has a perfect picture with none of the Panasonic's defects. My brother-in-law later got a Philips 76cm 16:9 set, considerably costlier than our Telefunken, but it displays picture amplitude fluctuations similar to the Panasonic. I'd find it unacceptable but it's not my TV to bitch about. Which brings me back to my point that big CRTs are problematic in the area of picture stability, and you have to beware of this if you're buying one. These are problems that LCD and plasma screens would not experience. Yes, you're right there. The fact that most LCDs of that size are only about 4-5 deep, and weigh about 35-40 lb is another big selling factor. regards, Anthony Farr All good talking points, Anthony, and I thank you for it! keith whaley
Re: Televisions (Was BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs)
For me a television is mainly a way to view films at home. The only programming I watch on anywhere near a regular basis is sporting events. But home theater has long been a pleasant way to bring at least some of my large family together. And since we generally avoid commercial theaters, the cost is amortized over the years. So the television is important . I've had a 60-inch Mitsubishi rear projection unit for about a dozen years. It served very well and produced a good picture even in daylight. But it's become somewhat shaky in old age with an unstable picture and vertical rotation on warmup. So I'm going to replace it with a 50-inch HD plasma. The plasma picture seems far superior to LCD in the large sizes, and it's much better than the projection boxes. I invested quite a bit in surround sound about five years ago, so I need to maintain the picture end of the equation as well. Since this is a fairly important lifestyle thing, I don't mind spending the extra money. It will be used extensively for another dozen years -- I hope. Costco has been selling the Pioneer 50 for about $4000 US. When they have it in stock again, I think I'll bite. I haven't seen anything better in that size. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 12:51 AM, David Mann wrote: On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: CRTs are too costly to ship and produce and new technologies always demand a premium especially when there are marketable benefits and cool technology labels. It's becoming very difficult to buy any kind of CRT TV/monitor in Australia. It's not very difficult here, but I've noticed that CRTs are suddenly in the minority in the shops. It's basically the same as what happened with computers... nowadays the perception is that you only buy CRT if you're budget-conscious. The quality of programming in this country makes it difficult to justify owning a TV at all. I don't consider that to be a bad thing because it means I can use the time more constructively. - Dave (will there be another season of The Robinsons?)
Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
You wouldn't want an 8 gig card. It's not cost efficient. But you might want five one gig cards. That relieves you of the burden of downloading files in the field, and it's safer memory than the compact drive. In lieu of a compact drive, I use a laptop, which is no better or worse, just less manageable and more useful. In terms of memory stability, it's similar. But I carry at least five gigs of CF and clear card memory only if I must. I sometimes download just to look at what I've shot, but leave the cards full until I can get home and download them to my stationary drives and DVD backup. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 12:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Thanks to a certain list member ;-), I am now enabled with Compact Drive PD7X. Wonderful little creature - can charge your batteries, can read your cards, can copy them onto its internal hard drive. All in all, now I have 12 GB more of space that I can take with me. Here comes the question. Say, I am a shooter shooting somewhere on some location. I have my two trusty 1 GB SandDisk cards and my quite reliable PD7X. One card is filled, I plug it to PD7X and load the other card to the camera. Then I repeat this trick when the second card is filled and so on. Here is the question. Why on earth I would want to buy a 8GB compact flash (for serious money) if I can buy a couple of 1 GBs and as much as 80GB hard drive for PD7X? I am not talking about extreme conditions or shooting with MF digital back. I am talking about regular amateur shooting with 6-8 MP camera on his vacation or some other favorite photo location of his. What do you say? Boris
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Dario Bonazza wrote:
In the Pentax press release, they say about Samsung Techwin line of
business:
Development and manufacture of cameras, aircraft engines, gas turbines,
turbo equipment, optical electronics devices, semiconductors and lead
frames. Helicopter shuttle services and etc.
So, what's a lead frame?
Dario
A REALLY heavy frame? {shruggg}
keith
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Excellent shot. I probably would not have had the courage to capture this. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 1:08 AM, Marco Alpert wrote: After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
I considered the question of the OOF man myself and came to the same conclusion as Dave. My first instinct was to crop that part of the frame away, but on consideration I think the observer makes this something more than it would be without him. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 5:52 AM, David Savage wrote: Wonderful shot Marco. Although I have to respectfully disagree with Godfrey. The OOF man adds to it because enough detail is visible that he appears to be looking at the couple, and they are totally oblivious. That's what makes it work for me. Well done. Dave On 10/14/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
On 14 Oct 2005 at 3:40, keith_w wrote: This is pertinent, as I'm looking at that very range myself. On reflectin, it seems to me the problem might be coming from having the CRT adhere to the display ratio... If the screen dieplay was square, I'll bet all squiggless would go away. But, that might be just my illusion. Issues relating to screen width modulation due to changes in video intensity are generally PSU related as Anthony said. Aspect ratio isn't generally problem as these days the beam focus, defection and astigmatism is dynamically controlled across every sweep. The deflection angle which is a function of the tube depth vs screen width poses far more of a technical nightmare for designers than aspect ratio and shallower tubes are being produced every year to increase box aesthetics and to allow more finished units to be packed into a container. Sets this size are already in a weight class that makes it very difficult for the owner to haul around, move, and so on. 105 lb. plus. So, if they can pare weight off the total package, I suspect they do it. Where better than a heavy power supply transformer? That's one place you can't miniaturize things much, or as you've seen, performance becomes iffy. The weight of a modern TV is primarily in the tube. As the tube size increases the glass has to be made thicker to eliminate the chance of implosion. There are no mains frequency power transformers in most modern TVs, they use very light and compact high frequency switch mode PSUs. These don't need to be weighty to have good performance but a high performance supply has a comparably high cost so that's a place that quality is often compromised. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 13/10/05, Frantisek, discombobulated, unleashed: So, will you concede to Gaffa He that North African despot? All together now... I'm a little despot, short and stout Here is my... I thought a despot was where you catch a train or bus... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New to the list a GESO from NorCal Meet
Heidi Jon VW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the welcome! And I think someone else warned me not to believe everything. As a mom of 5 kids, I'm pretty good at figuring out who to believe. ;-) So that would be no one, right? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Oct 2005 at 23:38, Dario Bonazza wrote: I believe it's been added some more info since I read this page first: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp Nothing detailed, though. I've always wanted a pentaprism on a mobile phone. All it takes is a junked ME, a screwdriver and some duct tape... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ach, that's nowt. My Quad 303 amp, purchased in Jamaica in 1976, still gives excellent service, though I did have the capacitors changed nine years ago. I'll change them again in 2016. Great little amp, that. I used to have one. I'm sorry I don't still have the electrostatic speakers. I'll bet you are! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Interesting NEWS story
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: improper photography ROTFL I think there plenty of us on this list who could teach courses titled Improper Photography, though not of the type this poor perv has been accused of doing ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: A quick blurb as I delurk.
Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen any interest in a London get-together except for John Forbes. Oh well, I will try to get with him off-list. Well *I'm* interested but I won't be able to make it... I will be in touch, hopefully, with Cotty since I do not know how my internet connectivity will be over there and I will be unsubscribing later in the weekend. You must go to The Nose Bag for lunch in Oxford! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Does a screw mount list exist?
Hello, everyone- Is there a separate Pentax screw mount list or discussion group somewhere? Thanks, Rob
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
On 10/14/05, Robert Soames Wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, everyone- Is there a separate Pentax screw mount list or discussion group somewhere? Thanks, Rob yes -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
Mark Roberts showed how dumb he is by writing: I thought a despot was where you catch a train or bus... No. Despot is what the 'X' marks. Everyone (except you) knows that. Tom (not quite as dumb as Roberts) Reese
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
HA. :-) Dave On 10/14/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/14/05, Robert Soames Wetmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, everyone- Is there a separate Pentax screw mount list or discussion group somewhere? Thanks, Rob yes -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson wrote: NEED it? I don't even WANT it! 8-) Mark, I hate to keep bugging you, but ... LOL! You're right about this one, though! (And several others you've pointed out in the past. Thanks.) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
On 10/14/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA. yes, but seriously, there's a spotmatic list on yahoo groups, and there's at least one m42 group out there that i recall, but i can't remember where it is. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Interesting NEWS story
On 10/14/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there plenty of us on this list who could teach courses titled Improper Photographysnip hello -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, keith_w wrote: Anthony Farr wrote: Last year we needed a new TV so bought a Panasonic 76cm, 16:9 ratio CRT. It was unmitigated crap. This is pertinent, as I'm looking at that very range myself. Very useful range indeed, only I prefer 4:3. A good illustration for buying from a local vendor, if you possibly can. They will take good care of the customer service end of things. You can't do that long distance. We don't have local vendors very much in the UK. We have local shops of national chains. Customer service? But at least you can see before you buy. No, if I see and like, I won't buy from an online retailer to save some money. Which brings me back to my point that big CRTs are problematic in the area of picture stability, and you have to beware of this if you're buying one. These are problems that LCD and plasma screens would not experience. Yes, you're right there. The fact that most LCDs of that size are only about 4-5 deep, and weigh about 35-40 lb is another big selling factor. How do they do for contrast and longevity though? And how about price? Kostas
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: light and compact high frequency switch mode PSUs. These don't need to be weighty to have good performance but a high performance supply has a comparably high cost so that's a place that quality is often compromised. Can one upgrade those (or if as useless as me, have them replaced)? Kostas p.s.: I have an idea about the useless theme! ;-)
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
On 10/14/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Tom (not quite as dumb as Roberts) Reese talk about despot calling deskettle black... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
Feel free to raise screwmount topics here as well. I know we focus on doomsday scenarios but occasionally our conversation turns to cameras and photography. We used to discuss screwmounts quite a bit, but I think we kind of wore it out over the years. However, everyone once in a while, we turn back to it. If you have questions or screwmount issues you wish to raise, fire away.Anumber of screwmount experts are in residence here. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 8:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: On 10/14/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA. yes, but seriously, there's a spotmatic list on yahoo groups, and there's at least one m42 group out there that i recall, but i can't remember where it is. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:23:00 +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: So, what's a lead frame? IIRC it's the frame and wires that connect a silicon integrated circuit chip to the pins on the packaging that connect it to the outside world. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
On 10/14/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonderful shot Marco. Although I have to respectfully disagree with Godfrey. The OOF man adds to it because enough detail is visible that he appears to be looking at the couple, and they are totally oblivious. That's what makes it work for me. i concur. wonderful shot! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GESO: NorCal PDML Meet -4 PESOS
On 10/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2005 2:59:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i agree with what everyone else said: great gallery, definitely not run-of-the-mill stuff. love 'em all! cheers, frank == Didn't see this until now. Thanks, frank. You know I don't get it, I wasn't really trying at all. Just snap, snap, snap, snap, snap. Well, I tried with Ode to Magritte, Untitled (Max's), and with John Francis Bogarting, but not with much else. So I thought everything was just of so-so. And I don't know what to conclude from people liking stuff I thought was just so-so. Maybe not very so-so, but pretty so-so. Maybe be looser all the time? the better one gets at anything, the less one tries - after lots of practise, it becomes natural, second nature. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Fire and Water
On 10/11/05, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *ist D FA 100 f/2.8 Macro http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3795076 Comments appreciated. interesting and beautiful - looks a bit dark on my monitor, though. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
On 14 Oct 2005 at 10:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Studdert wrote on 14.10.05 3:28: However just because they are successful producers of VLSIs such as RAM doesn't mean that they can produce a decent optical sensor. Yes, it doesn't. But it seems that they want to be good in that matter and who knows if they soon release high quality APS-C sized CMOS sensor? So far they claim their new sensors have 50% better sensitivity: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05062703samsung_5mpcmos.asp Even better: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Samsung-announces-7-megapixel-CMOS-Sens or.htm Samsung's 7.2M-pixel CIS has a 1/2-inch lens aperture and a 2.25um pixel size. http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20050912_00 00192005 IOW noisy but better than the previous noise impaired sensors. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
On 14 Oct 2005 at 7:47, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Oct 2005 at 23:38, Dario Bonazza wrote: I believe it's been added some more info since I read this page first: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0510/05101201samsung_pentaxdslrs.asp Nothing detailed, though. I've always wanted a pentaprism on a mobile phone. All it takes is a junked ME, a screwdriver and some duct tape... Don't tell Samsung :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/14 Fri PM 12:41:29 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, keith_w wrote: Anthony Farr wrote: Last year we needed a new TV so bought a Panasonic 76cm, 16:9 ratio CRT. It was unmitigated crap. This is pertinent, as I'm looking at that very range myself. Very useful range indeed, only I prefer 4:3. A good illustration for buying from a local vendor, if you possibly can. They will take good care of the customer service end of things. You can't do that long distance. We don't have local vendors very much in the UK. We have local shops of national chains. Customer service? But at least you can see before you buy. No, if I see and like, I won't buy from an online retailer to save some money. Which brings me back to my point that big CRTs are problematic in the area of picture stability, and you have to beware of this if you're buying one. These are problems that LCD and plasma screens would not experience. Yes, you're right there. The fact that most LCDs of that size are only about 4-5 deep, and weigh about 35-40 lb is another big selling factor. How do they do for contrast and longevity though? And how about price? The question to ask is What about smearing? Sometimes, watching one is like using a PC with mouse trails turned on and up. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO Very last pic from my trip
On 10/12/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it could have been shot anywhere I guess but I like it though I'm sure it'll draw mixed responses. This image is also a great example of why I love my A16/2.8 Fisheye, the image was shot hand held on the fly but it doesn't show it. The colour was pretty bad as it was mixed tungsten + sunlight illumination but in the BW conversion I think I've preserved the subtleties of the light. In any case I'd appreciate commentary on this image and it will be my last for a while (I promise). The image is pretty much as shot but for the BW and rectilinear conversions and a very slight rotation and minor crop, oh and yes I will clone it out but I didn't have time :-) http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP4316s.jpg (~200kB) Tech: *ist D, ISO400, 1/125s A16/2.8 FE @ f3.2 Comments, questions and critiques encouraged. Cheers, great shot! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14 Oct 2005 at 10:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Studdert wrote on 14.10.05 3:28: However just because they are successful producers of VLSIs such as RAM doesn't mean that they can produce a decent optical sensor. Yes, it doesn't. But it seems that they want to be good in that matter and who knows if they soon release high quality APS-C sized CMOS sensor? So far they claim their new sensors have 50% better sensitivity: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05062703samsung_5mpcmos.asp Even better: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Samsung-announces-7-megapixel-CMOS-Sens or.htm Samsung's 7.2M-pixel CIS has a 1/2-inch lens aperture and a 2.25um pixel size. http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20050912_00 00192005 IOW noisy but better than the previous noise impaired sensors. Sure, I didn't say that they could use it directly but they are working on some interesting solutions in the CMOS field. If they have lab results proving that it can be used for larger sensors it would be a very good reason for Pentax to cooperate with them. On the other hand Samsung would probably not develop it any further if they didn't know that they had a costumer. They are trading intellectual property and technology, and that may be a good thing for both. It does not mean that all of their technology goes into the pool, so it does not mean that they will be selling identical cameras. DagT
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
On Oct 14, 2005, at 0:08, Marco Alpert wrote: After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Marco - I like it! And, to echo what others have already said, I think that the OOF man on the right-hand side adds to the image. Funny how I can enjoy a picture like this, but if I were passing this couple in real life I might mutter to the wife those two ought to get a room! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: PESO Very last pic from my trip
Very clean looking! Gasha frank theriault wrote: On 10/12/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it could have been shot anywhere I guess but I like it though I'm sure it'll draw mixed responses. This image is also a great example of why I love my A16/2.8 Fisheye, the image was shot hand held on the fly but it doesn't show it. The colour was pretty bad as it was mixed tungsten + sunlight illumination but in the BW conversion I think I've preserved the subtleties of the light. In any case I'd appreciate commentary on this image and it will be my last for a while (I promise). The image is pretty much as shot but for the BW and rectilinear conversions and a very slight rotation and minor crop, oh and yes I will clone it out but I didn't have time :-) http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP4316s.jpg (~200kB) Tech: *ist D, ISO400, 1/125s A16/2.8 FE @ f3.2 Comments, questions and critiques encouraged. Cheers, great shot! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Peso: A small furry visitor
This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
Kostas Kavoussanakis napsal(a): sure, and IMHO it's a good news - Samsung is slowly replacing Sony as the (technological) leader in consumer entertainment Very interesting and encouraging. Any references? perhaps not extact answer to your question, but still interesting IMHO: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_41/b3954047.htm http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/index.cfm?fa=viewArticleid=1293 Also one of the core businesses for Sony was CRT based on Trinitron technology. While technologically brilliant it's now oveshadowed by LCD/Plasma panels in which Samsung does much better. Bedo.
Re: A quick blurb as I delurk.
On 14/10/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: You must go to The Nose Bag for lunch in Oxford! If you like black-eyed bean stew and nettle tea. If I'm on the tour it'll be sausage and mash and a pint !! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
On 13/10/05, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't even NEED my first SLR, the MX. Thomas Cakal you wash your mouth out with soap!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
On 13/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I am still using, and enjoying, a JVC AX-5 amp and Celestion Ditton 332 speakers on a daily basis. I purchased that equipment new in June of 1981. Yo! Celestion Ditton 130s here. 1982. Nice one! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
Nice shots. The stone wall makes an attractive background. Well composed. When it comes to long glass that one can handhold, that A 400/5.6 excels. Of course the slow aperture is a handicap in those situations, but I find that the the very compact dimensions of that puppy are an excellent tradeoff for a wide ap in decent light conditions. Paul This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
Cute little hunter, nicely captured. He'd do better without the bell. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peso: A small furry visitor This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Peso: A small furry visitor Nice shots. The stone wall makes an attractive background. Well composed. When it comes to long glass that one can handhold, that A 400/5.6 excels. Of course the slow aperture is a handicap in those situations, but I find that the the very compact dimensions of that puppy are an excellent tradeoff for a wide ap in decent light conditions. Thanks Paul. I'll never be a steady, but I am hoping to at least be a not too shakey. William Robb
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClubM42/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Spotmatic/
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
Damn, we scared him away already. Robert Soames Wetmore wrote: Hello, everyone- Is there a separate Pentax screw mount list or discussion group somewhere? Thanks, Rob -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
Humm, I thought it was the pot you boiled your des in... Tom Reese wrote: Mark Roberts showed how dumb he is by writing: I thought a despot was where you catch a train or bus... No. Despot is what the 'X' marks. Everyone (except you) knows that. Tom (not quite as dumb as Roberts) Reese -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
Tom, You have a one track mind. Derek If it was Pentax and we got a FF IS body I might be interested. Tom C. From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax/Samsung: update? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:02:33 -0400 just to make life more interesting, in a recent press conference, the president of Konica Minolta said that in order to have a viable digital camera division, KM's digital imaging division might have to merge with a current competitor. when pressed, he refused to say whether or not KM had been talking to anyone. posturing or real? it would be interesting to know who he had in mind. Herb - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Pentax/Samsung: update? Their first joint effort will be a camera, based on a current Pentax model, that incorporates some Samsung technology and which will be launched next spring. A jointly developed camera would not come until next autumn, Pentax said.
Re: Interesting NEWS story
Frank, your photography isn't improper, just unfocused. frank theriault wrote: On 10/14/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there plenty of us on this list who could teach courses titled Improper Photographysnip hello -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
Not likely with modern equipment. It's almost formed as a piece. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: light and compact high frequency switch mode PSUs. These don't need to be weighty to have good performance but a high performance supply has a comparably high cost so that's a place that quality is often compromised. Can one upgrade those (or if as useless as me, have them replaced)? Kostas p.s.: I have an idea about the useless theme! ;-) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
At least they think they're experts... Paul Stenquist wrote: Feel free to raise screwmount topics here as well. I know we focus on doomsday scenarios but occasionally our conversation turns to cameras and photography. We used to discuss screwmounts quite a bit, but I think we kind of wore it out over the years. However, everyone once in a while, we turn back to it. If you have questions or screwmount issues you wish to raise, fire away.Anumber of screwmount experts are in residence here. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 8:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: On 10/14/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA. yes, but seriously, there's a spotmatic list on yahoo groups, and there's at least one m42 group out there that i recall, but i can't remember where it is. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
RE: Enablement and a question thereafter
Hi Boris ... Try as I might (and I ~so~ want to become a techie) I just don't see any reason to carry around one of those devices for local photography. A few cards are inexpensive enough, light, easily transportable, and any risk to one's pix is divided up amongst the cards. While I don't have all the cards I want yet, I'll probably settle on a mix of a couple-three 512mb cards and a few 1GB cards plus a nice carrying case for them all (http://tinyurl.com/9mgtz). Bruce had one of those PD7X-type thingies when we got together at the last meeting, and i thought it was very cool. Were I to be travelling, making a long trip, I'd consider one, but I'd probably not carry it while out shooting. It could stay wherever I took up residence and I'd DL the cards when I returned from the events of the day. Of course, having such a device gives pause for thought as to the capacity needed. Would 80gb be enough for whatever the length of the trip might be? For the DS that's about 7500 pix in RAW. Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman Thanks to a certain list member ;-), I am now enabled with Compact Drive PD7X. Wonderful little creature - can charge your batteries, can read your cards, can copy them onto its internal hard drive. All in all, now I have 12 GB more of space that I can take with me. Here comes the question. Say, I am a shooter shooting somewhere on some location. I have my two trusty 1 GB SandDisk cards and my quite reliable PD7X. One card is filled, I plug it to PD7X and load the other card to the camera. Then I repeat this trick when the second card is filled and so on. Here is the question. Why on earth I would want to buy a 8GB compact flash (for serious money) if I can buy a couple of 1 GBs and as much as 80GB hard drive for PD7X? I am not talking about extreme conditions or shooting with MF digital back. I am talking about regular amateur shooting with 6-8 MP camera on his vacation or some other favorite photo location of his. What do you say? Boris
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
Yup, there are a couple of screwheads around here somewhere. ;) They occasionally like to torment the digi-guys with anti-digital threads. But honestly tho, they are quite knowledgeable and mostly friendly, and the discussions can get into some serious optics and physics. They remind me of that Sheryl Crow song: I dont have digital I dont have diddly squat Its not having what you want Its wanting what you've got rg Paul Stenquist wrote: Feel free to raise screwmount topics here as well. I know we focus on doomsday scenarios but occasionally our conversation turns to cameras and photography. We used to discuss screwmounts quite a bit, but I think we kind of wore it out over the years. However, everyone once in a while, we turn back to it. If you have questions or screwmount issues you wish to raise, fire away.Anumber of screwmount experts are in residence here. Paul On Oct 14, 2005, at 8:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: On 10/14/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA. yes, but seriously, there's a spotmatic list on yahoo groups, and there's at least one m42 group out there that i recall, but i can't remember where it is. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: HOT NEWS: Pentax +Samsund DSLRs
Samsung was marketing Samtron monitors, Trinitron tubes, either bought from or built under license from Sony, with Samsung electronics. Not bad monitors either. Peter Lacus wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis napsal(a): sure, and IMHO it's a good news - Samsung is slowly replacing Sony as the (technological) leader in consumer entertainment Very interesting and encouraging. Any references? perhaps not extact answer to your question, but still interesting IMHO: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_41/b3954047.htm http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/index.cfm?fa=viewArticleid=1293 Also one of the core businesses for Sony was CRT based on Trinitron technology. While technologically brilliant it's now oveshadowed by LCD/Plasma panels in which Samsung does much better. Bedo. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
Did he actually catch anything with that bell on his collar? William Robb wrote: This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
Nice pictures by the way. William Robb wrote: This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Charles Robinson wrote: Funny how I can enjoy a picture like this, but if I were passing this couple in real life I might mutter to the wife those two ought to get a room! You might say to the wife ... ? OH! You mean YOUR wife!
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
I always enjoy your BW conversions. You caught a quiet moment that we can all feel. I'd probably chop out the guy on the right though. -- Bruce Thursday, October 13, 2005, 10:08:09 PM, you wrote: MA After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a MA particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only MA just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: MA http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html MA Comments, as always, welcomed. MA -Marco
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Ok, I have looked at it again. I first said that the man should be cropped out, but after trying it, you are right. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, October 14, 2005, 3:55:44 AM, you wrote: PS I considered the question of the OOF man myself and came to the same PS conclusion as Dave. My first instinct was to crop that part of the PS frame away, but on consideration I think the observer makes this PS something more than it would be without him. PS Paul PS On Oct 14, 2005, at 5:52 AM, David Savage wrote: Wonderful shot Marco. Although I have to respectfully disagree with Godfrey. The OOF man adds to it because enough detail is visible that he appears to be looking at the couple, and they are totally oblivious. That's what makes it work for me. Well done. Dave On 10/14/05, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
RE: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Nicely done, Marco. The guy on the right is well integrated into the scene, and helps give it its impact and create a little tension. Without him the pic would be dead. Pretty well framed, too ;-)) You've gotta teach me to see with longer lenses. BTW, did you ever get a K135/2.5? Shel [Original Message] From: Marco Alpert After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed.
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
Rob Studdert wrote: On 14 Oct 2005 at 3:40, keith_w wrote: This is pertinent, as I'm looking at that very range myself. On reflectin, it seems to me the problem might be coming from having the CRT adhere to the display ratio... If the screen dieplay was square, I'll bet all squiggles would go away. But, that might be just my illusion. Issues relating to screen width modulation due to changes in video intensity are generally PSU related as Anthony said. Aspect ratio isn't generally problem as these days the beam focus, defection and astigmatism is dynamically controlled across every sweep. Dynamically controlled! Now that is going to require another snippet of self-education. I'll put it to Google, see what I get. The deflection angle which is a function of the tube depth vs screen width poses far more of a technical nightmare for designers than aspect ratio and shallower tubes are being produced every year to increase box aesthetics and to allow more finished units to be packed into a container. Sets this size are already in a weight class that makes it very difficult for the owner to haul around, move, and so on. 105 lb. plus. So, if they can pare weight off the total package, I suspect they do it. Where better than a heavy power supply transformer? That's one place you can't miniaturize things much, or as you've seen, performance becomes iffy. The weight of a modern TV is primarily in the tube. As the tube size increases the glass has to be made thicker to eliminate the chance of implosion. Yeah. Count the number of square inches of tube surface, multiply times 14.7 psi, and that's how much total force is trying to collapse the tube, which already has a small head start with the vacuum they draw on the inside... There are no mains frequency power transformers in most modern TVs, they use very light and compact high frequency switch mode PSUs. These don't need to be weighty to have good performance but a high performance supply has a comparably high cost so that's a place that quality is often compromised. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Excellent info, Rob! My knowledge is 20 years out of date! What the hey, so am *I*...at least! Seriously, tho', thanks for dispelling some of my erroneous beliefs. keith whaley
Re: PESO: reading
Boris, of course you are, thank you! Is it important for you to know what she is doing? How do you feel the lack of context you both mentioned? I'll take this into account when posting future pictures, whcih doesn't necessarily mean I will put more context, but I will be more conscious about omitting it :^) Pancho Boris Liberman schrieb: Hi! Thanks for sharing with us. What I like about this shot is the expression on her face and the tonality. What I wish I could see is just a little more context - without your explanation, I would have no clue what she was doing. I'd second that, if I'd be so permitted. Boris
Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
On Oct 14, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: ... a nice carrying case for them all (http://tinyurl.com/9mgtz). ... That's a good card case you found. I've been using the Lowepro DMC-Z Compact Slim Digital Memory Pouch, http://tinyurl.com/7skbs which is conveniently slim and light, but I find it a bit fussy in use. ...Bruce had one of those PD7X-type thingies when we got together at the last meeting, and i thought it was very cool. Were I to be travelling, making a long trip, I'd consider one, but I'd probably not carry it while out shooting. It could stay wherever I took up residence and I'd DL the cards when I returned from the events of the day. Of course, having such a device gives pause for thought as to the capacity needed. Would 80gb be enough for whatever the length of the trip might be? For the DS that's about 7500 pix in RAW. Your thoughts are exactly the same as mine. :-) The Epson P2000 has a 40G drive. In three weeks of fairly heavy shooting this past May-June, I made about 2800 exposures, all stored in RAW format, and consumed approximately 25G of the available space. I had about 1G worth of JPEG files and another 1G worth of miscellaneous music and video on it too. The key thing about this (somewhat expensive) device is that the large display makes it very useful when traveling to share photos with friends and do your own review without needing to carry a laptop. If you don't want/need editing capabilities on the road, but do want to see how your work is progressing, it's a boon. While others might have a need for more capacity than that, that's enough for me! They are making an 80G version now for those that need it: the Epson P4000. Another storage device option is something like the Apacer Disc Steno CP300, http://tinyurl.com/c9o98 It's a standalone CD/DVD writer and card reader. The display isn't much to speak of, but it can do review, output to computer or video too. Only downside is that with a CD/DVD writer you also have to carry blank media. You'll need 1 DVD-R to back 4x 1G cards to off- line when they're full. That means I would have consumed about 30 DVD- R blanks on my trip ... that gets a little bulky to carry. For secondary backup, since I knew I'd be somewhere that a friend has a computer with USB 2.0 and FireWire connectivity, I brought a pocket 60G FireWire drive along. Much more compact than DVD-R media. I made a complete backup of the Epson two days before returning home, which gave me two copies of every file (the remaining two days' work fit on my storage cards as well as on the P2000). Godfrey
Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
On my last trip, I had 4x 1gb cards which I found to be lots for a day's shooting, and a laptop computer which I downloaded to from time to time. The laptop stayed safely in the trailer, and generally, I would do my downloads and check out my pictures while I had the generator running to recharge the trailer batteries. It worked well. William Robb
Re: Interesting NEWS story
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Interesting NEWS story Frank, your photography isn't improper, just unfocused. Who gets to define what is improper though (in the context of the Texan law)? William Robb
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Peso: A small furry visitor Did he actually catch anything with that bell on his collar? Nope. I don't think he caught anything with his paws or teeth, either. WW Thanks for looking. bill
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: Peso: A small furry visitor Cute little hunter, nicely captured. He'd do better without the bell. I dunno, he had the instinct, but none of the skill. Thanks for looking bill
Re: Peso: A small furry visitor
Quoting Brooks Jensen: It is impossible to make a photograph of a cat that is not trite. For some unknown reason, this does not apply to dogs. ;-) I see you're having fun with the A400/5.6... Godfrey On Oct 14, 2005, at 7:25 AM, William Robb wrote: This little feller was hunting birds in my yard. He wasn't too sure aboout me at first, but calmed down nicely after a few moments. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9575.html http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/IMGP9576.html Shot handheld with my new to me SMCP A 400/5.6 on the istD. William Robb
Re: PESO -- strangers (ACL 2005, Thievery Corporation concert)
Great shot. I like the girl in the front's look, and the deep concentration of the one with the eyes closed. Do you live near Austin? rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a photo my wife, Annette, took while we were at the Austin City Limits 2005 festival a few weeks ago. This was opening night, right before Thievery Corporation went on stage. One of the hottest days of the year and not a cloud in the sky, but everyone I spoke to agreed it was among the most enjoyable performances we'd ever seen; the sensual connection between the performers and the audience was extraordinary. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3762786 Wanted to see what you folks thought... this is some of her first work in black white, but you can see some of her other recent work, especially in color portraiture, there on photo.net if you're interested. All comments welcomed.
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Sorry y'all (and especially Marco !) ... I went back and looked at it several times. I like it cropped nearly square, without the visitor on the right. That also gets rid of some poor OOF highlight details on the upper right, and it focuses my attention on the intimate moment shared by the couple. Godfrey
DL gets mention
I don't know if anyone saw this, but PC Magazine list the DL as one of the four Big Cameras for Beginners. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1869354,00.asp Hopefully it will attract some new Pentaxians! Derek
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML)
Marco, I really love the intimacy and tenderness you caught in this picture! And I know I'm in the minority, but I'd like it better with the man cropped out--he's a distraction to my eyes. Great picture, though, either way! Heidi - Original Message - From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML) After a delightful last Saturday with the NorCal crew (and a particularly enjoyable afternoon wandering with Godfrey), I've only just now been able to begin looking at what I shot. Here's the first: http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco
Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
Hi G ... Quite some time ago I took that route, and grabbed a small LaCie USB drive that is usable for storing odds-n-ends here at home, and being pocketable (fits in my shirt pocket) is great for transferring or backing up many large files. Great little devices ;-)) Newer ones are smaller, with larger capacities, and less expansive. A highly recommended component for a very reasonable price. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi For secondary backup, since I knew I'd be somewhere that a friend has a computer with USB 2.0 and FireWire connectivity, I brought a pocket 60G FireWire drive along. Much more compact than DVD-R media. I made a complete backup of the Epson two days before returning home, which gave me two copies of every file (the remaining two days' work fit on my storage cards as well as on the P2000).
Aparaty cyfrowe
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Re: Enablement and a question thereafter
On 10/13/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the question. Why on earth I would want to buy a 8GB compact flash (for serious money) if I can buy a couple of 1 GBs and as much as 80GB hard drive for PD7X? You wouldn't. Seriously though, when I got the *istD about 2 years ago, my husband told me I should get as large a memory card as I could afford (his exact advice was for me to get the best price-per-byte, but specifically I should get the 2GB card), since devices are on an upwards trend where gobbling memory is concerned. e.g. I only just started playing with RAW recently, and so I sort of wish I had heeded his advice, because the 1GB card that used to carry 300 JPGs now only carries about 75 RAWs. But on the other hand, the new cameras are using SD cards so chances are, the CF is obsolete technology anyway. I *think* that the other thing about CF cards vs the storage device, is less moving parts (I am not sure that applies to an 8GB card, but it applies to the cards I have right now). I could -- and have -- drop/ped a CF card but would hate to be that clumsy around a storage device.
FS: K 300/4
This is a K series 300/4 prime lens in KEH bargain condition. The glass is clean and clear, the aperture ring works smoothly and aperture blades are snappy, the focus is nice and smooth. The body shows signs of use, but no abuse or bad areas. The built-in hood operates smoothly. Basically a very nice lens. It has become redundant in my current lens lineup and getting no use. Asking $225 + shipping PayPal preferred -- Bruce
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They occasionally like to torment the digi-guys with anti-digital threads. ...so to speak. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Does a screw mount list exist? They occasionally like to torment the digi-guys with anti-digital threads. ...so to speak. We give it right back at them though. Actually, I shot a roll of film last week, and will likely shoot another roll this weekend as well. Not on screw mount though. William Robb
Re: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not likely with modern equipment. It's almost formed as a piece. These days the entire TV set is almost formed as a piece ;-) Seriously, when I was an A/V tech I remember getting a modern Korean/Japanese/whatever set to repair (it's usually the older sets that need service - and people would often pay more than the purchase price of e new one to do so). The set consisted of a picture tube, an RF module and one main circuit board. The circuit board had the flyback transformer, one transistor for horizontal output, one IC for vertical output and one *single* IC for EVERYTHING ELSE! This was over 10 years ago, so I imagine things have progressed even further in the area of reducing manufacturing costs. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Interesting NEWS story
Who gets to define what is improper though (in the context of the Texan law)? I guess the cop gets to define it at first. I think the jury would ultimately make the determination. If the cop wanted to be a jerk then that picture someone put up a few weeks ago (Stenquist maybe?) of the girls with the ice cream cones could be deemed to be improper. Tom Reese
RE: Aparaty cyfrowe
Yeah, Baby! Tom C. From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Aparaty cyfrowe Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:11:03 +0200 http://www.aparatycyfrowe.biz/zarty_foto/
Re: Pentax/Samsung: update?
A note about Micron... I was reading in WSJ today regarding the Samsung and conspirators price fixing. It looks like the big 4 chip makers were all guilty. Micron was mentioned as a maker of sensors for digicams. Apparently their specialty right now is a sensor in a pill capsule that can be swallowed. It takes pictures as it move throughout the digestive tract. I can see Pentax incorporating this into a new DSLR... somehow... Pentax-Samdung Tom C.
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML) Others 2005 - 41p - GDG
Moving forward to another PDA, I caught this intimate moment between two of the Pentaxians during lunch. It was certainly NOT caught unawares ... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/41p.htm I'm not sure about the intimacy and tenderness it expresses, but it was fun. :-) (PS: I'm having a senior moment ... I cannot for the life of me remember their names right now. John? Bruce? anyone? help!) enjoy, Godfrey On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Heidi Jon VW wrote: I really love the intimacy and tenderness you caught in this picture! And I know I'm in the minority, but I'd like it better with the man cropped out--he's a distraction to my eyes. Great picture, though, either way! From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html
RE: Interesting NEWS story
Who gets to define what is improper though (in the context of the Texan law)? Ask these people, they can probably help you: http://romansroad.org/state/texas.htm I note that 'the Word was God', but he doesn't seem to be a very good speller. Shouldn't those guidlines be Commandments anyway? Bob
RE: Interesting NEWS story
I'm sure cops never want to be jerks. Somehow it just happens that way. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2005 18:24 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interesting NEWS story Who gets to define what is improper though (in the context of the Texan law)? I guess the cop gets to define it at first. I think the jury would ultimately make the determination. If the cop wanted to be a jerk then that picture someone put up a few weeks ago (Stenquist maybe?) of the girls with the ice cream cones could be deemed to be improper. Tom Reese
Re: PESO - PDA (Norcal PDML) Others 2005 - 41p - GDG
It is an amusing shot - I like how her facial expression is kind of scrunched. They were Jared and Ashley. -- Bruce Friday, October 14, 2005, 10:47:46 AM, you wrote: GD Moving forward to another PDA, I caught this intimate moment between GD two of the Pentaxians during lunch. It was certainly NOT caught GD unawares ... GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/41p.htm GD I'm not sure about the intimacy and tenderness it expresses, but it GD was fun. :-) GD (PS: I'm having a senior moment ... I cannot for the life of me GD remember their names right now. John? Bruce? anyone? help!) GD enjoy, GD Godfrey GD On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Heidi Jon VW wrote: I really love the intimacy and tenderness you caught in this picture! And I know I'm in the minority, but I'd like it better with the man cropped out--he's a distraction to my eyes. Great picture, though, either way! From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alpert.com/marco/pdml/peso24.html
Re: PESO: reading
Hi! Is it important for you to know what she is doing? How do you feel the lack of context you both mentioned? Yes, I'd like to see the book in her hands... How do I feel? I cannot really describe it. It is kind of feeling when you see something and realize something else is missing. This time it was easy, because I had a title and because you told explicitly so. I'll take this into account when posting future pictures, whcih doesn't necessarily mean I will put more context, but I will be more conscious about omitting it :^) I'd be fascinated to see these works of yours! Please keep posting! Boris
