Re: OT - So quiet in here
Hey Fernando - we're not _that_ old! We had to learn how to do sepia toning from books, just like you! Nice (record) pics, BTW John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:36 AM Subject: OT - So quiet in here I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) just for fun http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765427/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765423/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765429/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765425/
OT - So quiet in here
Op Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:25:37 +0100 schreef Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) Want to improve them and really give them the old look? Take out the blue component first. Then convert. Plate and tin type emulsions had little or no blue sensitivity. There may be other fixes as well, but that comes to mind first. Hi, Last time I moved I went to an apartment in a building from the second half of the 19th century. I wanted the adress card I sent friends and relatives to have a photo that looked like it was taken when the building was new. Since no original was available, I took a recent photo, cloned out the obviously modern bits like cars and lamp-posts, desaturated (probably would do that differently now) and reduced contrast quite a bit. As far as I know, old film (or paper?) was not capable of recording lot of contrast. I wouldn't know if it looked like a new photo from that time would look, but it certainly fooled everyone I sent the card! One other thing I notice: Old prints (say, beginning 20th century) often do not have a full tonal range: There's black and dark grey, and a lot of white. The middle to light grays seem to have bleached away. I think this is an ageing effect. You could mimick that to make photo's look 'old and worn'. Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT Another PS Question
I bought my Treo 650. Paid cold hard cash for an unlocked, unfettered quad-band, world ready GSM phone and its unique computing capabilities. It acts as a music player, pocket snapshot camera, voice recorder, address book and note taker, JPEG picture viewer, and a lot of other things besides being a phone. It's paid for itself over and over again in the 8 months since I bought it. One of the best purchases in pocket sized electronics I've ever made. Godfrey On Mar 16, 2006, at 11:15 PM, John Francis wrote: Oh, I didn't *pay* for my Treo. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have one if the cost was coming out of my pocket. After all, I don't have a Dell Axxim 51 (or whatever model it is) with that nice 640x480 display (Treos are square, 240x240). Palm gave me the Treo, Verizon pick up the tab for the phone service, and Microsoft supplied a pre-release copy of Visual Studio 2005 for application development. At that price, I'm satisfied that I got a reasonable deal :-) On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 09:51:42PM -0500, graywolf wrote: Unfortunately, unlike you guys I do not have money. So I have to make do with what I can get. So I now have an old Toshiba e755 that already is proving itself useful (I did do a full reset yesterday that seems to have cleared up some of the problems). I can even look at photos from my digi-cam on it. How big is the screen on those Treos again? I also have a cf-gps card coming (ain't ebay wonderful?) so I will be able to find my way from the kitchen to the bedroom of my apartment, and maybe even to the grocery store if I can still afford groceries after spending all my money on ebay. grin
Re: OT - So quiet in here
On Mar 16, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Fernando Terrazzino wrote: But know, out of curiosity, Godfrey, do you have a scan of some of this prints that I could see? if not no problem, is just to satisfy the curiosity of someone that have never shot BW film (and I don't plan to, too lazy for that) and with some time to maybe try to imitate the looks. Somewhere I have scans of some prints from 25 years ago, I am not sure if I have any scans of my pictures from 40 years ago. If I pull them out of the archives, I'll scan a couple and post them. Be warned: I don't think my sophistication as a photographer was particularly noteworthy when I was 8-9 years old. ;-) Godfrey
Re: RE: Pentax sighting
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/16 Thu PM 11:37:00 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax sighting I myself was wondering how such an obvious rank amateur could get a WBC press pass... -Aaron His UberKamera was in for its 100,000 exposure service. Pentax is the equivalent of a courtesy car. -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: Pentax sighting Date: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:32 am Size: 806 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net A Pentax user? He can't be pro ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Aaron Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. mars 2006 04:40 To: PDML Subject: Pentax sighting I'm watching Puerto Rico vs. Cuba in the World Baseball classic, and so far it's a hell of a game. And there's a guy in the first base side camera bay with what appears to be a DS or DS2 -- clearly a Pentax, anyways, and if it's a D it doesn't have the grip on it -- and an older-looking long, black lens with a big front element and a lot of wear marks. I'm going to check out Boz's site to try to ID the lens. -Aaron - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
WTB - Pentax SMC A35mm f 2.8
I have a friend (not on the list) who is trying to find an A35mm f 2.8. There's been a few on eBay but I mentioned that occasionally list members throw one up for sale. Anything going? Thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT Film
For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
From: Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 12:58:01 GMT To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Well here it is.PDML Logo Well this is something i think is decent enough for a nice logo for a hat. http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=Logofinalcopy.jpg I hope i didi a better job at this than my band shots. But hey, if the collective hates me over this, my cats love me.:-) Any way, for those that are concerned, please look and if its crap let me know, and i'll pass on the choir to someone else. You seem to have accidentally chopped a big lump off the left side of the camera. 8-))) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: *ist D Heads-up
Brian, BH Photo in NY has listed the *ist D for $1169.95, body only, for about half a year now. They still have them in stock, according to the website. Godfrey On Mar 16, 2006, at 5:00 PM, Brian Dipert wrote: Amazon.com has the *ist D body on clearance for $1,199.94 with free shipping. I just snagged one; the website says there's only one left
Re: OT Another PS Question
On 16/3/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Many of the new generation of cellphones, PDAs, etc. around the Pacific rim run Linux. That's where Palm are going - Palm OS is dead (although the APIs live on as Linux libraries). That's really really weird. I wish I'd known that! Damn. But wait - astonishingly: if the Palm OS is dead, then my phone/pda shouldn't be working! It should be a useless lump in my pocket! But lo - like Lazarus, it has risen from the dead and lives!! Yeah brother!! My phone is alive!! It's so alive that in 2004 I bought 2 of the things because it's just what I needed. :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: need a Cure
On 16/3/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Listening to Willie Nelson tonight. Stardust, One More For the Road (with Leon Russell), and Honeysuckle Rose. Amen! Have you got the album with Willie and Johhny Cash together? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax sighting
On 17/3/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax is the equivalent of a courtesy car. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT - So quiet in here
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 08:21:10 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT - So quiet in here Op Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:25:37 +0100 schreef Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) Want to improve them and really give them the old look? Take out the blue component first. Then convert. Plate and tin type emulsions had little or no blue sensitivity. There may be other fixes as well, but that comes to mind first. Hi, Last time I moved I went to an apartment in a building from the second half of the 19th century. I wanted the adress card I sent friends and relatives to have a photo that looked like it was taken when the building was new. Since no original was available, I took a recent photo, cloned out the obviously modern bits like cars and lamp-posts, desaturated (probably would do that differently now) and reduced contrast quite a bit. As far as I know, old film (or paper?) was not capable of recording lot of contrast. I wouldn't know if it looked like a new photo from that time would look, but it certainly fooled everyone I sent the card! One other thing I notice: Old prints (say, beginning 20th century) often do not have a full tonal range: There's black and dark grey, and a lot of white. The middle to light grays seem to have bleached away. I think this is an ageing effect. You could mimick that to make photo's look 'old and worn'. Not only an ageing effect. It was quite some time after the development of easy access photography before film was developed that reacted equally to all wavelengths of light. Part of the pleasure of interpreting old photographs is working out what is missing. Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT 4 months....
On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun lens, but you will probably want to become familiar with ways to de-fisheye the images. William Robb That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? Cheers, David
Re: OT - So quiet in here
Op Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:06:00 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One other thing I notice: Old prints (say, beginning 20th century) often do not have a full tonal range: There's black and dark grey, and a lot of white. The middle to light grays seem to have bleached away. I think this is an ageing effect. You could mimick that to make photo's look 'old and worn'. Not only an ageing effect. It was quite some time after the development of easy access photography before film was developed that reacted equally to all wavelengths of light. Part of the pleasure of interpreting old photographs is working out what is missing. The prints I was thinking of are of ships on a sunny day on a river, and all the blue (sky, river, say 90% of the frame :o) is almost white. I think that makes sense, or should it be just the other way around? It is a pity, though. The ship belonged to my wife's grantparents, and her family would appreciate 'better' copies. The prints are tiny. I tried to scan, clean up and enlarge them, but I think there's just too little information to work with... Even blowing up 'as-is' did not yield useable results. Along these lines: we strongly believe a dutch museum has 'glass negatives' of the ship. Would that be worth pursueing? Can these negatives still be printed (or scanned)? What size would a 'glass negative' have? As they probably aren't easy access photography: would these negatives have the same tonality problems? Thanks in advance, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Re: OT 4 months....
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 09:37:50 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT 4 months On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a fun lens, but you will probably want to become familiar with ways to de-fisheye the images. William Robb That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm From http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1.htm By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? Cheers, David - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT - So quiet in here
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 09:40:38 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - So quiet in here Op Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:06:00 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One other thing I notice: Old prints (say, beginning 20th century) often do not have a full tonal range: There's black and dark grey, and a lot of white. The middle to light grays seem to have bleached away. I think this is an ageing effect. You could mimick that to make photo's look 'old and worn'. Not only an ageing effect. It was quite some time after the development of easy access photography before film was developed that reacted equally to all wavelengths of light. Part of the pleasure of interpreting old photographs is working out what is missing. The prints I was thinking of are of ships on a sunny day on a river, and all the blue (sky, river, say 90% of the frame :o) is almost white. I think that makes sense, or should it be just the other way around? It is a pity, though. The ship belonged to my wife's grantparents, and her family would appreciate 'better' copies. The prints are tiny. I tried to scan, clean up and enlarge them, but I think there's just too little information to work with... Even blowing up 'as-is' did not yield useable results. Along these lines: we strongly believe a dutch museum has 'glass negatives' of the ship. Would that be worth pursueing? Can these negatives still be printed (or scanned)? What size would a 'glass negative' have? As they probably aren't easy access photography: would these negatives have the same tonality problems? The negatives could be any size up to about an A3 sheet of paper. Most likely size would be around A5. They can still be scanned or printed but would probably have to be done professionally (in this case, the profession having more to do with preservation than photography) so could be expensive. They will have tonality problems - but they will also have colour problems. 8-) None of the above would discourage me from trying to get the work done if it was my ancestors. YMMV. Thanks in advance, -- Regards, Lucas - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT 4 months....
On 3/17/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the plan. In general the fisheye effect gets tired quickly. Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm There doesn't need to be, few of those examples show it though. Dave From http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1.htm - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT - So quiet in here
Op Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:18:54 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Along these lines: we strongly believe a dutch museum has 'glass negatives' of the ship. Would that be worth pursueing? Can these negatives still be printed (or scanned)? What size would a 'glass negative' have? As they probably aren't easy access photography: would these negatives have the same tonality problems? The negatives could be any size up to about an A3 sheet of paper. Most likely size would be around A5. Ah, *large*. Thought so :o) They can still be scanned or printed but would probably have to be done professionally (in this case, the profession having more to do with preservation than photography) so could be expensive. They will have tonality problems - but they will also have colour problems. 8-) None of the above would discourage me from trying to get the work done if it was my ancestors. YMMV. MM probably won't V ;-) Thanks for the information. Time to chase the lead... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: OT Another PS Question
On 3/17/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samsung phone with Palm OS :-))) One week to a page diary with DS OS vbg Dave
RE: PESO: My Tree
It brings you to Tolkien land? Wow, thanks! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 05:56 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: My Tree Hi! Just a quick grab walking my dog. But I kind of like it. The sky adds a bit of drama, and I like the slightly off centre composition. http://foto.no/cgi- bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=225419brukerid=35178n omenus= Been thinking about converting it to bw and add an old fashioned dramatic style. But I haven't decided if it's worth the effort yet. Quick or no quick - good it is. Reminds me of Tolkien novels... Boris
Re: stupid *istD L
the built-in flash can only be used as manual only (no TTL), unless one is shooting in one of the smiley face modes -- WTF?! If the DL is like my DS, the built-in flash doesn't do TTL at all. It will only do P-TTL, and only when a sufficiently automatic lens is attached (AF minimum IIRC). I know I've used P mode with the kit lens. I've never used any of the modes besides P/Tv/Av/M/B. I also shoot RAW so white balance isn't a necessary operation. why shouldn't i be able to use TTL *together* with custom white balance and exposure compensation? what moron designed that? my minolta a2 digicam seems to be more photographer friendly... What? I have just tried Dl and it works perfectly in P-TTL on other then smiley modes (Av, Tv, M) - white balance and exposure compensation works then too. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss* * Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student * * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * *
Re: stupid *istD L
how do you do that? when i am in Av, pressing Fn button and selecting flash icon, the automatic flash icons are greyed out. and the manual seem to confirm that (page 50). am i missing something? of course, i meant p-ttl. best, mishka On 3/17/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Mishka wrote: What? I have just tried Dl and it works perfectly in P-TTL on other then smiley modes (Av, Tv, M) - white balance and exposure compensation works then too.
RE: Rue Bordelais
I have mixed emotions towards this. It is at least two motifs in one frame. Romantic streets without any life, and a post industrial scenery in the background. On one hand that's a bit confusing. That confusion could make me go to next picture mode. But it didn't. It made me stop thinking on shifting times. I believe it the lighting that made me start reflecting. The lighting is a bit supernatural, and that put me in reflecting mode. The composition is very good, IMO. There are a lot of details, but they are neatly lined up, making my eye scanning the whole image. I only wish there were something going on in the street, adding a dimension of life. On the other hand, that might destroy this supernatural feeling that made me stop in the first place. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 05:53 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rue Bordelais I think it's a lovely shot, Ralf. I really like how you managed to line up that one tower with the street. I actually think there's a lot of beauty in industrial landscapes, and it's cool to see that juxtaposed with that pretty street. Good for you for capturing some of it while you still can. Amita
RE: russiancopy
I'm pretty curious about the performance of this lens. How about a report? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Fiso_PENTAX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14. mars 2006 19:37 To: pentax-discuss Subject: Re: russiancopy Hello Bob, Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:54:49 -0500 From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: russiancopy The 300mm f/2.8 Yashmar has been made sporadically in limited quantities for some years. I wrote a test report on it for Shutterbug something like ten years ago. Optically it is a copy of an early Nikkor 300/2.8 . I found the sample I tested to perform very well, but not up to the quality levels of later versions of the Nikkor. I have not seen a Yashmar for sale in quite a while. Can you say how much you paid for it? All of the ones I have seen for sale were rather expensive. Bob Thank You for the info. It was cca 410$ in Huf (hungarian forints). In the original leather case with shades and filters. Some dust inside, needs CLA locally it is about 50-80$. Should be under 500$ finally much cheaper then the A* :) -- Best regards, Fiso_PENTAX mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stupid *istD L
Mishka wrote on 17.03.06 13:27: how do you do that? when i am in Av, pressing Fn button and selecting flash icon, the automatic flash icons are greyed out. and the manual seem to confirm that (page 50). am i missing something? of course, i meant p-ttl. Because these icons set flash in full auto mode (it has nothing to do with flash exposure metering). This mode means that camera decides when flash is neccesary and when not and when it is open will fire only when it thinks it is needed :-) As a mode for people who knows nothing about flash usage it is not available in advanced Av/TV/P/M modes ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: russiancopy
On Mar 17, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm pretty curious about the performance of this lens. How about a report? Unfortunately, my Shutterbug review is no longer on their web site. Bob
Re: Re: OT 4 months....
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm Not every picture can be so carefully contrived as to hide the lens curvature as some of the ones in that gallery. William Robb
Re: stupid *istD L
you seem to be right: i was confused by what manual called manual flash -- it didn't occur to me that manual flash means manually pushing the button :) thanks a lot man! best, mishka On 3/17/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mishka wrote on 17.03.06 13:27: how do you do that? when i am in Av, pressing Fn button and selecting flash icon, the automatic flash icons are greyed out. and the manual seem to confirm that (page 50). am i missing something? of course, i meant p-ttl. Because these icons set flash in full auto mode (it has nothing to do with flash exposure metering). This mode means that camera decides when flash is neccesary and when not and when it is open will fire only when it thinks it is needed :-) As a mode for people who knows nothing about flash usage it is not available in advanced Av/TV/P/M modes ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
RE: need a Cure
There is no cure, there is no cure, there is no cure for * love. (Leonard Cohen) * = music I'm going the other way. When this re mastered comes it draws my attention towards the _real_ album. I often find myself looking at flee markets, or second hand stores looking for the jewels. When saying real albums I'm not only referring to the LP format, but also to the original concept. This set of 10-12 maybe 15 songs, in the right order, thats the album. Thats what came out of that moment in time, the original work of art. Right now, I don't by or listen to LP's. The stylus is broken at my Rega. It's a MC cartridge, so it is costs a lot more than a couple of pints. But I can live with that for some time. I have a CD player ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 03:09 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: need a Cure Ever have your favorite band remaster/remix all your old favorite records and add a bunch of previously unreleased tracks so you just about *have* to buy them again? I'm only lucky (I guess) that I never updated the worn-out cassettes for some of the releases so I'm not buying the CDs AGAIN... Cory gots teh moosic bug worse than da kamra habit...
Re: OT - So quiet in here
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:06:00 +0100 schreef mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One other thing I notice: Old prints (say, beginning 20th century) often do not have a full tonal range: There's black and dark grey, and a lot of white. The middle to light grays seem to have bleached away. I think this is an ageing effect. You could mimick that to make photo's look 'old and worn'. Not only an ageing effect. It was quite some time after the development of easy access photography before film was developed that reacted equally to all wavelengths of light. Part of the pleasure of interpreting old photographs is working out what is missing. The prints I was thinking of are of ships on a sunny day on a river, and all the blue (sky, river, say 90% of the frame :o) is almost white. I think that makes sense, or should it be just the other way around? It is a pity, though. The ship belonged to my wife's grantparents, and her family would appreciate 'better' copies. The prints are tiny. I tried to scan, clean up and enlarge them, but I think there's just too little information to work with... Even blowing up 'as-is' did not yield useable results. Along these lines: we strongly believe a dutch museum has 'glass negatives' of the ship. Would that be worth pursueing? Can these negatives still be printed (or scanned)? What size would a 'glass negative' have? As they probably aren't easy access photography: would these negatives have the same tonality problems? Thanks in advance, Orthochromatic film and plates was particularly sensitive to blue, and not sensitive to red, so to get detail in anythng that was green/red you had to massively overexpose the blue. BW paper is orthochromatic, and ortho film is still available. -Adam
Re: Re: OT 4 months....
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/03/17 Fri PM 12:52:08 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Re: OT 4 months Why does there need to be a fisheye effect? http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/gallery/zenitar/1/14.htm Not every picture can be so carefully contrived as to hide the lens curvature as some of the ones in that gallery. William Robb Good exercise trying, though. 8-) I was very impressed by the gallery, for that reason. If I didn't know that they were from a fisheye (albeit one cropping to the centre of the fov) I would be very hard pressed to tell them apart from a normal wideangle. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: russiancopy
If you wrote a review of the lens you might be able to remember some of the highlights of the review. Reconstructing might not be a very scientific method, but could give some hints. If it's a lot of trouble doing it, then forget it. It's not that important to me. I'm asking mainly out of general curiosity. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 13:48 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: russiancopy On Mar 17, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm pretty curious about the performance of this lens. How about a report? Unfortunately, my Shutterbug review is no longer on their web site. Bob
Re: *ist D Heads-up
BH has them for a similar price. --- Brian Dipert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazon.com has the *ist D body on clearance for $1,199.94 with free shipping. I just snagged one; the website says there's only one left == Brian Dipert Senior Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Multimedia (audio, displays, 2-D and 3-D graphics, and still and video imaging), PCs and Peripherals EDN Magazine: http://www.edn.com My blog: http://www.edn.com/briansbrain 5000 V Street Sacramento, CA 95817 (916) 760-0159, fax (781) 734-8038 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit me at http://www.bdipert.com http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Pixelated Once Again
I enjoy your colourful posts, introducing me Carl, the delivery man. Congratulation. Enjoy the camera. And please continue sharing the joy (and the downers, we like downers too ;-)) with the list. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. mars 2006 04:29 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Pixelated Once Again Late this morning the big brown UPS van pulled up in front of Casa Belinkoff, and off jumped Carl, the regular delivery guy on this route, carrying a package from KEH which contained a LN- istDS with 5245 exposures showing on the clock. I had planned to get a new DS2 from Don's in Canada, but bad and good luck intervened. My car needs new fuel injectors, and about the time that was discovered a list-lurker pointed me to the KEH offering. So, for the price of a new DS2 I got a used DS and a car repair. It's now time to become refamiliarized with the camera. There seems to be a few things I've forgotten, plus the camera came with V1.0 of the firmware, which I never used, so some things were not quite the way they were remembered. Firmware has been updated to v2.0, and a new 1gb SD card is about to be ordered. However, I was thinking that I might get a faster 2gb card, which could be used to better advantage for future cameras, or at least allow the istDS to work at max speed and increase file xfer speed to the computer. Any downside to that idea other than there being so many more pics on the card making it possible to lose more photos if the card gets filled? Well, I'm stoked! There's a 31mm Ltd on loan that I can play with, and with a copy of Real World Camera Raw winging its way to La Casa as I type, it appears that I'm about ready to continue the exploration of digital photography. Shel
Re: OT 4 months....
David J Brooks wrote: I told my wife, no camera equipment for 2006. So far i have ordered the D200, bought the Sigma 10-20 and am this close to getting the Tamron 90 macro for the Nikon mounts Damn i hate this list. lol This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm puzzled ...
Re: OT Another PS Question
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't care what OS my phone runs as long as it works without annoying me... Godfrey Same here!!
Re: Pixelated Once Again
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Late this morning the big brown UPS van pulled up in front of Casa Belinkoff, and off jumped Carl, the regular delivery guy on this route, carrying a package from KEH which contained a LN- istDS with 5245 exposures showing on the clock. I had planned to get a new DS2 from Don's in Canada, but bad and good luck intervened. My car needs new fuel injectors, and about the time that was discovered a list-lurker pointed me to the KEH offering. So, for the price of a new DS2 I got a used DS and a car repair. It's now time to become refamiliarized with the camera. There seems to be a few things I've forgotten, plus the camera came with V1.0 of the firmware, which I never used, so some things were not quite the way they were remembered. Firmware has been updated to v2.0, and a new 1gb SD card is about to be ordered. However, I was thinking that I might get a faster 2gb card, which could be used to better advantage for future cameras, or at least allow the istDS to work at max speed and increase file xfer speed to the computer. Any downside to that idea other than there being so many more pics on the card making it possible to lose more photos if the card gets filled? Well, I'm stoked! There's a 31mm Ltd on loan that I can play with, and with a copy of Real World Camera Raw winging its way to La Casa as I type, it appears that I'm about ready to continue the exploration of digital photography. Shel Good for you, Shel! Enjoy yourself.
Re: stupid *istD L
It will only do P-TTL, and only when a sufficiently automatic lens is attached (AF minimum IIRC). I know I've used P mode with the kit lens. Should be ok also with A lenses but I didn't check. -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
A favour from A35-105/3.5 owners?
Hi Guys, If anyone has a good working copy of the old A35-105/3.5 could you please make a couple of measurements for me (as accurate as possible) and post them here or direct to me? Please see the pic below for a guide, your help would be appreciated and may assist me in a rather frustrating lens repair. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/35-105f3.5.jpg TIA, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: russiancopy
Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm pretty curious about the performance of this lens. How about a report? That lens was reviewed years ago in Amateur Photography, and they found it to be be a very good telephoto. Unfortunately, the magazine were I read the review went to the reciclyng bin years ago. Carlos
Re: OT - So quiet in here
On 3/16/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know what your missing. Shoot BW. Blood will flow like you have never felt it. Dave, listeining to Gentle Giant, Brooks Well, the thing is that I know for sure I'll get hooked if I start shooting BW, and then I'll have to scan, get a good negative scaner, even maybe I'll try to setup a darkroom (I don't if you still can easily get chemicals, equipment), buy books, at some point I'll fed up with the whole process and I'll say: Fernando, why don't you shoot digital and try to fake the looks in PS? So, I'm gonna take the shortcut... PS: You see what I mean when I say that I am lazy... ;o)
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
On 3/16/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [huge snip] Dave(tries to hard)Brooks I guess you meant tries too hard, rigth? :o)
FS: PK to EOS adapter
I bought one of these from Mr.Rolfo a few months back and can't bring myself to mutilate any of my wonderful Pentax lenses So I'm offering it up here for sale if anyone's interested. I paid US$66 (or E66, can't remember) but the last one I saw went for about US$50 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7599356467 Open to offers. Will post for free -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: OT - So quiet in here
I'm definitely not one of the elderly members, but I am in training :-) I scanned a heap of family photos for my father some time ago. Most taken in the late 40's early 50's and I must say none of them looked like that. Here's an example: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/DG_001.jpg (My father his grandmother) Your attempts are too yellow IMO. Which is not to say I don't like them, which I do, for all except the first one. Way too yellow. As an attempt at an aged look they don't work for me, but on there own they do. Dave On 3/17/06, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the feeling that today's activity dropped a notch (march break?) so I thought about asking to the eldery members if this effect makes photos look like when you first started photography ;o) just for fun http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765427/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765423/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765429/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/111765425/
Re: russiancopy
On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:25 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: If you wrote a review of the lens you might be able to remember some of the highlights of the review. Reconstructing might not be a very scientific method, but could give some hints. If it's a lot of trouble doing it, then forget it. It's not that important to me. I'm asking mainly out of general curiosity. I summarized in my earlier post. As good as the first generation 300/2.8 Nikkor with low-dispersion glass, but not as good as the current ones. Translation: better than Sigma, maybe better than Tamron and Tokina. Bob
Re: FS: PK to EOS adapter
On 3/17/06, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought one of these from Mr.Rolfo a few months back and can't bring myself to mutilate any of my wonderful Pentax lenses Good for you :-) Even better for the lenses. vbg Dave -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: Pixelated Once Again
Welcome back Shel, 2,600+ images since ordering my *ist DS on the way back from GFM last June. Let the fun continue. Bob S. On 3/17/06, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Late this morning the big brown UPS van pulled up in front of Casa Belinkoff, and off jumped Carl, the regular delivery guy on this route, carrying a package from KEH which contained a LN- istDS with 5245 exposures showing on the clock. I had planned to get a new DS2 from Don's in Canada, but bad and good luck intervened. My car needs new fuel injectors, and about the time that was discovered a list-lurker pointed me to the KEH offering. So, for the price of a new DS2 I got a used DS and a car repair. It's now time to become refamiliarized with the camera. There seems to be a few things I've forgotten, plus the camera came with V1.0 of the firmware, which I never used, so some things were not quite the way they were remembered. Firmware has been updated to v2.0, and a new 1gb SD card is about to be ordered. However, I was thinking that I might get a faster 2gb card, which could be used to better advantage for future cameras, or at least allow the istDS to work at max speed and increase file xfer speed to the computer. Any downside to that idea other than there being so many more pics on the card making it possible to lose more photos if the card gets filled? Well, I'm stoked! There's a 31mm Ltd on loan that I can play with, and with a copy of Real World Camera Raw winging its way to La Casa as I type, it appears that I'm about ready to continue the exploration of digital photography. Shel Good for you, Shel! Enjoy yourself.
Re: OT 4 months....
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: OT 4 months By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0391.PEF It's a full 13mb file. William Robb
Re: OT: need a Cure
cbwaters wrote: I like iTunes better but their goofy file format won't play on my non-Apple Mp3 player Oh, there are *ways*, grasshopper... ;-)
RE: A favour from A35-105/3.5 owners?
That depends on the cocus adjustment. At infinity:1 - 11mm At 1.5m: 6.5 - 16mm Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. marts 2006 16:24 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: A favour from A35-105/3.5 owners? Hi Guys, If anyone has a good working copy of the old A35-105/3.5 could you please make a couple of measurements for me (as accurate as possible) and post them here or direct to me? Please see the pic below for a guide, your help would be appreciated and may assist me in a rather frustrating lens repair. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/35-105f3.5.jpg TIA, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 03/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 03/16/2006
Re: stupid *istD L
On Mar 17, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Thibouille wrote: It will only do P-TTL, and only when a sufficiently automatic lens is attached (AF minimum IIRC). I know I've used P mode with the kit lens. Should be ok also with A lenses but I didn't check. Yes, P-TTL flash metering works fine with any lens that has an A on the aperture ring. Godfrey
Re: OT 4 months....
On 3/17/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: OT 4 months By any chance would have a high res. jpg with the exif info or DNG file that you wouldn't mind emailing me to practice with? www.komkon.org/~wrobb/IMGP0391.PEF It's a full 13mb file. William Robb Thanks Bill, Very much appreciated. I owe you a drink. Dave
Digital Plunge!
Just arrived in the mail from another PDMLer, my very own ist D! Unfortunately I'll be at work until 8pm at least, and tomorrow is full. Sunday, though, I'll give it a good try-out. A 16-45 from BH awaits me at home. Prepare for lots of questions about digital workflow... Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Digital Plunge!
Traitor. g On 3/17/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just arrived in the mail from another PDMLer, my very own ist D! Unfortunately I'll be at work until 8pm at least, and tomorrow is full. Sunday, though, I'll give it a good try-out. A 16-45 from BH awaits me at home. Prepare for lots of questions about digital workflow... Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: OT - So quiet in here
Fernando Terrazzino wrote: On 3/16/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know what your missing. Shoot BW. Blood will flow like you have never felt it. Dave, listeining to Gentle Giant, Brooks Well, the thing is that I know for sure I'll get hooked if I start shooting BW, and then I'll have to scan, get a good negative scaner, even maybe I'll try to setup a darkroom (I don't if you still can easily get chemicals, equipment), buy books, at some point I'll fed up with the whole process and I'll say: Fernando, why don't you shoot digital and try to fake the looks in PS? So, I'm gonna take the shortcut... PS: You see what I mean when I say that I am lazy... ;o) Getting chemicals and equipement around here in Toronto is simple. I payed about $85 for my 6x6 enlarger, with lens, and most of the rest came in a kit henry's sells for about $60-70. -Adam Who does shoot and scan BW, pretty much exclusively these days.
Re: Pixelated Once Again
On Mar 17, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: 2,600+ images since ordering my *ist DS on the way back from GFM last June. Let the fun continue. This prompted me to check. I got my DS2 about a month ago and I'm sitting at 5233. I think I'm also responsible for more than half of the frames on Dave Brooks' D. -Aaron
OT: Our tree
http://www.pbase.com/image/55816027 It's ours since Tuesday. Along with the land behind it as far as the farm. Look out for interesting (or not) updates in a couple of months as we start our building project. I'll try and use the DS for all the documentation shots :-) -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: Pentax is watching..
Rob Studdert wrote: ..dpreview forums: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=7434930 Here's the official web site of the Global Pentax Photoshoot: http://pentaxium.webvision.co.za/index.php March 19 is the day.
Re: OT Film
I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT 4 months....
Quoting E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This list is making you buy all that non-Pentax stuff? How? I'm puzzled ... Just trying to even up the bags.:-) Besides, i confuse easly. Dave
Pixel size
I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
istDS Questions
As it's been a while since I've used the istDS, and the firmware on my current camera has been upgraded to v2.0, there are a few questions about settings that I may have. The first is Grids. This is something that wasn't available with the earlier firmware. I ticked the box for Grids when setting up the menus, but have yet to see grids of any sort appear anywhere. What exactly is grids and how are they activated, used, or seen? Does v2.0 of the firmware allow for a faster write speed, one that is comparable to the DS2? More questions later. Shel
RE: Pixel size
Where did you read this. Inquiring minds want to know. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels.
Re: Pixel size
Yes to dynamic range. colour depth depends on the sensor design. But if it's 1.3x and 10MP, there's a good chance its the same sensor as the Digital Module-R, which is a 16bit sensor, not 12bit like the 6MP bodies. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT - Windows on a Mac
It was only a matter of time.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4816520.stm Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pixelated Once Again
Hi Juan ... for months I have been trying to balance the universe with no luck. It's good to know that the istDS can help. Buried deep in the menu hierarchy is a universal balancer feature. I was hesitant to turn it on, but perhaps later today or in the wee hours of the morning would be a good time to try the feature. Shel [Original Message] From: Juan Buhler Shel has a DSLR again. The universe has recovered its equilibrium :) Glad for you Shel. Looking forward to seeing some PESOs.
RE: Pixel size
As I understand it, won't the larger pixel size, also, tend to generate less noise? Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Our tree
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/image/55816027 It's ours since Tuesday. Along with the land behind it as far as the farm. Look out for interesting (or not) updates in a couple of months as we start our building project. I'll try and use the DS for all the documentation shots :-) WOW! Congratulations! Malcolm
Re: Pixel size
O ... that would be ~very~ nice. I suspect it's pure speculation and that we won't see such a thing. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Yes to dynamic range. colour depth depends on the sensor design. But if it's 1.3x and 10MP, there's a good chance its the same sensor as the Digital Module-R, which is a 16bit sensor, not 12bit like the 6MP bodies. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit?
Re: Pixel size
2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack Strange: 10 Mpix with a 2 by 3 ratio makes 2582 x 3872 pixels (more or less a few...). 1.3 conversion (compared to 24x36mm full frame) gives 18x27mm sensor size. If my math is correct, 18mm / 2582 = 7 micron, NOT 9... The 5D is approx 2920 x 4380 in 35.8 x 23.9 mm, which makes about 8,2 micron sensor pitch. Unless my math is bogus somewhere, which is more than probable at this time in the week... Patrice
Re: Digital Plunge!
Enjoy your new camera. Read the book Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2 by Bruce Fraser. It will teach you about RAW workflow better than any series of PDML discussions. Godfrey On Mar 17, 2006, at 7:14 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Just arrived in the mail from another PDMLer, my very own ist D! Unfortunately I'll be at work until 8pm at least, and tomorrow is full. Sunday, though, I'll give it a good try-out. A 16-45 from BH awaits me at home. Prepare for lots of questions about digital workflow...
Re: Pixel size
2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack I guess you mixed the 645D (9micron, 18MPix, my guessed sensor size 32x47mm) with the future 10 Mpix body (APS-C sensor if I remember well). Patrice
Re: Pixel size
(sorry if I fill the thread with 1 sentence messages :-) ) Whichever, your point makes perfect sense... If the quality of the analog and digital electronics behind this sensor is up to it, I guess these factors will be improved accordingly. I wonder whether increasing the total dimension of the sensors has by itself any impact on the power consumption, then on the heat and electronic noise. 2006/3/17, Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack I guess you mixed the 645D (9micron, 18MPix, my guessed sensor size 32x47mm) with the future 10 Mpix body (APS-C sensor if I remember well). Patrice
RE: Our tree
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/image/55816027 It's ours since Tuesday. Along with the land behind it as far as the farm. Cool! Do you get a lot of birds and other creature visitors to photograph? John
FS Friday: My DS body
Decided to use my lenses on a different body so . . . I have for sale ($450 US) my DS body bought last year from Cameta Camera. Camera, body cap, hot shoe guard, strap, cables, cd, instructions, and box. Also, 512 MB sd card (ultra II I believe). Shipping and insurance to CONUS by USPS Parcel Post paid by me. No scratches, dents or marks. jpeg upon request. email to smctak at sbcglobal dot net. Pmy by USPS MO. John
Re: PESO- Sunworshipper
Or close their eyes :) Which focal length did you use. My cats don't like the shutter/mirror sound. John
FS treasure trove
Unless otherwise mentioned all have good glass and mechanics. Canon FD mount - Carenar 135/2.8, good cond, $10 Kiron MC7 2x teleconverter, ex. cond, $15 Tokina RMC 80-200/4, very good cond, $25 Olympus OM mount - Vivitar 135/2.8, good cond, $10 Konica mount - Konica Hexar 200/4, ex cond $20 Auto extension tube set, ex cond, 13mm, 21mm, 31mm, $20 Konica Hexar 28/3.5, ex cond, $20 Nikon F mount - Promaster 2x teleconverter, ex. cond $15 Vivitar 2x, pre-AI, good cond, $10 Pentax K mount - Focal 2x, good cond, $10 Toyo 200/4.5, good cond, $10, marr on front element Super Chinar 35/2.8, good cond, $35 Chinon 28/2.8, ex cond, $35 Super Albinar 135/2.8, very good cond, $15 DeJur 135/2.8, good cond, $10, one small mark on front glass Focal 135/2.8, very good cond, $15 Minolta MD - Vivitar 70-150/3.8 close focusing auto zoom, ex cond, $35 T-mount - Juplen 135/2.8, very good cond, $10 This is an oldie PayPal accepted. + shipping Collin He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott
Re: OT Film
While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: Our tree
Looks like a nice spot. Now if i can talk my SO into the same thing, i'd be happy.:-) Congrat's Dave Quoting wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.pbase.com/image/55816027 It's ours since Tuesday. Along with the land behind it as far as the farm. Look out for interesting (or not) updates in a couple of months as we start our building project. I'll try and use the DS for all the documentation shots :-) -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: OT Another PS Question
On Mar 17, 2006, at 1:15, John Francis wrote: Oh, I didn't *pay* for my Treo. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have one if the cost was coming out of my pocket. After all, I don't have a Dell Axxim 51 (or whatever model it is) with that nice 640x480 display (Treos are square, 240x240). 320x320 on the Treo 650, please. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: OT Film
Saturation. 100F is much lower saturation than 50. Velvia 100 (not F) is fairly close to 50, but a fair number of people don't like it as much. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: WTB
Hi Collin, I have a damaged MX and I am also looking for a parts camera. I need: Top cover in reasonable condition. Focusing screen Screws for bottom cover. Nice clean bottom cover could also be used. What parts do you need? Perhaps we can share a parts camera if you need different pieces. Will let you know if I get anything. Powell At 06:03 PM 16/03/2006 , you wrote: Anyone got a parts MX available? TIA, Collin
Re: Pixel size
Patrice, Must say your math looks right. (actually 6.97 microns). It's likely I buried Kodak's 9 micron reference to the 645D only to have it surface when mulling the new 10D. Yes, Canon stipulated that the 5D utilizes 8.2 micron pixels. Jack --- Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack Strange: 10 Mpix with a 2 by 3 ratio makes 2582 x 3872 pixels (more or less a few...). 1.3 conversion (compared to 24x36mm full frame) gives 18x27mm sensor size. If my math is correct, 18mm / 2582 = 7 micron, NOT 9... The 5D is approx 2920 x 4380 in 35.8 x 23.9 mm, which makes about 8,2 micron sensor pitch. Unless my math is bogus somewhere, which is more than probable at this time in the week... Patrice __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: RE: Pentax sighting
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:27:30AM +, mike wilson wrote: His UberKamera was in for its 100,000 exposure service. Pentax is the equivalent of a courtesy car. Hardly. The Porsche dealership isn't going to loan you a Honda 2000 while your Boxster is in for service (yet again); you might find out you're paying too much for the name, and you never even come close to finding any real differences.
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:34:17AM +, mike wilson wrote: Well this is something i think is decent enough for a nice logo for a hat. http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=Logofinalcopy.jpg One little nitpick: according to the official website, it's Grandfather, not Grand Father
Re: OT Film
Using ISO 50 film can make it easier when deliberately wanting long exposures, as in blurred water shots, eliminating the need for an ND filter. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Film Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:38:40 -0500 Saturation. 100F is much lower saturation than 50. Velvia 100 (not F) is fairly close to 50, but a fair number of people don't like it as much. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Pixel size
I'm with you, Shel. I'd love it to be true, but I'm extremely sceptical. On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:07:36AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: O ... that would be ~very~ nice. I suspect it's pure speculation and that we won't see such a thing. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Yes to dynamic range. colour depth depends on the sensor design. But if it's 1.3x and 10MP, there's a good chance its the same sensor as the Digital Module-R, which is a 16bit sensor, not 12bit like the 6MP bodies. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit?
Re: WTB
Anyone WTB an MX winder? --- Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Collin, I have a damaged MX and I am also looking for a parts camera. I need: Top cover in reasonable condition. Focusing screen Screws for bottom cover. Nice clean bottom cover could also be used. What parts do you need? Perhaps we can share a parts camera if you need different pieces. Will let you know if I get anything. Powell At 06:03 PM 16/03/2006 , you wrote: Anyone got a parts MX available? TIA, Collin
RE: Pixel size
Shel, Damned if I know! I suppose it was a fragment of the 645D specs Kodak furnished, but miss-filed in my 'cache'. Can't find it and the math actually looks as though it may be limited to 7 microns. IOW, I agree with Patrice. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you read this. Inquiring minds want to know. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - So quiet in here
The image titled 'Detemined' on this page is a copy of an 11x14 that has spent many years on my walls. It is about 40 years old and still looks fine. Taken with Pentax S1a and Soligor 200mm lens on Tri-X. http://members.shaw.ca/hargravep/oly.htm Powell At 12:27 AM 17/03/2006 , you wrote: On Mar 16, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Fernando Terrazzino wrote: But know, out of curiosity, Godfrey, do you have a scan of some of this prints that I could see? if not no problem, is just to satisfy the curiosity of someone that have never shot BW film (and I don't plan to, too lazy for that) and with some time to maybe try to imitate the looks. Somewhere I have scans of some prints from 25 years ago, I am not sure if I have any scans of my pictures from 40 years ago. If I pull them out of the archives, I'll scan a couple and post them. Be warned: I don't think my sophistication as a photographer was particularly noteworthy when I was 8-9 years old. ;-) Godfrey
RE: istDS Questions
I meant Guides. Didn't have the camera handy when I wrote that question. Shel [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff As it's been a while since I've used the istDS, and the firmware on my current camera has been upgraded to v2.0, there are a few questions about settings that I may have. The first is Grids. This is something that wasn't available with the earlier firmware. I ticked the box for Grids when setting up the menus, but have yet to see grids of any sort appear anywhere. What exactly is grids and how are they activated, used, or seen? Does v2.0 of the firmware allow for a faster write speed, one that is comparable to the DS2? More questions later. Shel
Re: Digital Plunge!
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Enjoy your new camera. Read the book Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2 by Bruce Fraser. It will teach you about RAW workflow better than any series of PDML discussions. Yes -- but if you order RWCR instead of purchasing it from a local shop, while you wait you might see what you can learn from the white papers on the Adobe site. Here's somewhere to start http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html
Re: OT Another PS Question
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 11:37:55AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 17, 2006, at 1:15, John Francis wrote: Oh, I didn't *pay* for my Treo. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have one if the cost was coming out of my pocket. After all, I don't have a Dell Axxim 51 (or whatever model it is) with that nice 640x480 display (Treos are square, 240x240). 320x320 on the Treo 650, please. How interesting. I wonder whether that was a Microsoft decision to make the 700w have the same resolution as most of the other new square-screen phones.
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
I would just leave PDML as an acronym, without the explanation. That way, you can make up whatever definition you'd like for whomever... Norm - Original Message - From: Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Well here it is.PDML Logo Well this is something i think is decent enough for a nice logo for a hat. http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=Logofinalcopy.jpg I hope i didi a better job at this than my band shots. But hey, if the collective hates me over this, my cats love me.:-) Any way, for those that are concerned, please look and if its crap let me know, and i'll pass on the choir to someone else. As far as Frank and GW i'll see what i can do for your your hat requests
Re: Well here it is.PDML Logo
Picked that out already John. I have two versions on the mac and ssent the wrong one. Always pays to have fresh eyes look at things. Thanks Dave Quoting John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:34:17AM +, mike wilson wrote: Well this is something i think is decent enough for a nice logo for a hat. http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=Logofinalcopy.jpg One little nitpick: according to the official website, it's Grandfather, not Grand Father Equine Photography in York Region
Re: OT Film
_Velvia_ 100F is lower saturation? Not Provia, not Astia -- they are both lower saturation. When did Fuji introduce a non-F Velvia 100? -Aaron -Original Message- From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:38 pm Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Saturation. 100F is much lower saturation than 50. Velvia 100 (not F) is fairly close to 50, but a fair number of people don't like it as much. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO- Sunworshipper
Looks fine on my calibrated monitor. I would like to see the face also, but still a nice cat capture. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO- Sunworshipper No taboo as far as I'm concerned. I like the colouring - perhaps slightly underexposed but that could be my monitor. However, I would have liked it more if the face was visible (probably, like a typical cat, it turned away just as you pressed the shutter) Cheers, Brian + Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia -- Quoting Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have heard about a cat taboo??? Hope it's not still in effect :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/SunWorshiper.jpg Walt
Re: OT Film
Tom -- you would rather have _more_ grain just to not have to use an ND filter? -Aaron -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:55 pm Size: 1K To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Using ISO 50 film can make it easier when deliberately wanting long exposures, as in blurred water shots, eliminating the need for an ND filter. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT Film Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:38:40 -0500 Saturation. 100F is much lower saturation than 50. Velvia 100 (not F) is fairly close to 50, but a fair number of people don't like it as much. -Adam Aaron Reynolds wrote: While I sympathize with people who've had their favorite films discontinued, I have to wonder what Velvia 50 has to offer that Velvia 100F does not. If anything, the 100F has a finer grain than the 50, and is close if not identical in almost every way, except it renders skin tones better. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) Subj: Re: OT Film Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:44 am Size: 718 bytes To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net I heard a rumor from a couple of professional photographers, who work in the LA area and exclusively shoot Velvia 50, that Fuji is reconsidering their decision to discontinue Velvia 50 . . . Derek -- Original message -- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like their eyeballs sunny side up, www.7dayshop.com is advertising large stocks of fresh (and last ever) Velvia 50. If you can't order (they only deliver to the UK) I'm happy to be an intermediary. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT - So quiet in here
Who does shoot and scan BW, pretty much exclusively these days. I know you do, Adam, and I like the results (always checking your flickr acount ;-) ) On 3/17/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando Terrazzino wrote: On 3/16/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know what your missing. Shoot BW. Blood will flow like you have never felt it. Dave, listeining to Gentle Giant, Brooks Well, the thing is that I know for sure I'll get hooked if I start shooting BW, and then I'll have to scan, get a good negative scaner, even maybe I'll try to setup a darkroom (I don't if you still can easily get chemicals, equipment), buy books, at some point I'll fed up with the whole process and I'll say: Fernando, why don't you shoot digital and try to fake the looks in PS? So, I'm gonna take the shortcut... PS: You see what I mean when I say that I am lazy... ;o) Getting chemicals and equipement around here in Toronto is simple. I payed about $85 for my 6x6 enlarger, with lens, and most of the rest came in a kit henry's sells for about $60-70. -Adam Who does shoot and scan BW, pretty much exclusively these days.
