Re: OT: Steam Powered

2006-12-05 Thread David Mann
On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Steam is a whole lot nicer to look at though.

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=506
http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=507

:)

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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Thibouille
Thanks Ken, that would be very cool :)

2006/12/5, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi folks,

 There are a couple of interviews on K10D cropped up in Japanese articles.
 One is a bit more technical with a few participants by Pentax.  Another is
 with Mr.Tatamiya (nick named Tatamy in Japan :-) talking about the
 marketing side.  According to him (Tatamy), they really screwed up the
 forecasting of expected sales.  In Japan, pre-booking of K10D exceeded that
 of K100D by more than double.  In overseas market, it was even worse.  In
 certain country wherein the sales have been traditionally week, they
 estimated the first shipment be approx 50 units, but the actual order was
 1000 units.  This situation is reflected in Japanese site where a lot of
 people are still waiting.  First shipment apparently went to satisfy the
 pre-booked orders.  Next sale would be around Dec 11.  It appears that Japan
 is most suffering.  Pentax employees are not allowed to buy it (I guess they
 are talking about in-company sale).
 Technical interview reveals the inner working of their engineering,

 Anyway, as soon as I find time, I will translate both interviews (preempting
 the sharp-eyed finding these articles).

 Ken


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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Thibouille
Little summary:

ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external
and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL.

ist-DS/DS2: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) but only
external flash. Internal is PTTL or full power. Works quite better
than D TTL. Offers PTTL as well.

ist-DL/DL2/K110D/K10D: offers only PTTL.

AFAIK all the FTZ flashes do not provide auto flash and so are about
unusable on latest PTTL-only bodies.

AFAIK2 the FTZ flashes do only support digital TTL which mean they
won't work in TTL mode with LX,SuperA or 645. FGZ flashes DO support
this.

Conclusion (to stay simple) is: throw your FTZ away and buy FGZ ...

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OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread David Savage
...please no one bring it up.

er...oops...

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OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
hi,

someone did mention a little after i joined the list that literary
discussions on the list once in a while is ok. so...

the norwegian novelist Jostein Gaarder was here in india recently and
one of my colleagues had interviewed him. nice interview, reads well
and his take on things happens to go well here...within my memory, he
is one of the first norwegian novelists to be interviewed here. he is
being translated into hindi, *one* of the indian languages, and which
i do not know. i am quite tempted to read him in an english
translation. perhaps (our) jostein, dag, tim (or anybody else) can
throw a little more light on the things he is talking about...

here is the epaper version of the article (which retains the layout,
fonts and the look and feel of the paper as it is published):

http://epaper.thehindu.com/pdf/2006/12/03/20061203L_003101005.jpg

and the plain, html, internet version of the interview:

http://www.hindu.com/lr/2006/12/03/stories/2006120300130300.htm

regards, subash

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RE: PESO: burning bright

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Subash
I like the mood. I would try to clone out the last reflection on the right
to make theme a magic number three and crop the photo a bit too.
greetings
Markus


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Subject: PESO: burning bright


hi,

a picture of an earthern lamp, taken today. these are lit on the
first three days of a hindu calendar month which started yesterday.
comments and criticism, of course, welcome.

thanks for looking.

http://picasaweb.google.com/nsjeyan/AroundTheHouse/photo#5004655046774158402

(taken with the *ist DS, k50/f1.2 @5.6, 1/125 sec, ISO 200)

regards, subash

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RE: How Long ...

2006-12-05 Thread Bob W
 
  Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us
 
 Oh, Valentine!
 I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners
of
 threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days.
 I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me.  
 There were 
 more
 colourful character those days.  There also was a self-proclaimed
PJ 
 (forgot
 his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey?
 
 Oh man, Suda Mafud, AKA Kirkland Ramsey, AKA MT Greene AKA several 
 others (Doug has told me he's been re-subbed under a variety 
 of names, 
 albeit briefly). Now there was a character.
 
 And there was a lunatic Bruce R.
 
 Bruce was a lunatic and a classic Nikon Weenie (that's a term the 
 people at *Nikon* use!) but he at least knew a thing or two about 
 photography.
 
 I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the 
 record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of
time. 
 The first year Norm Baugher showed up at GFM he introduced himself
to 
 Tom Van Veen with Hi, I'm Brad Dobo. I just wish I'd witnessed it!
 

No, no, no. Brad Dobo was a beginner compared to The Who and Kirkland
Ramsey III (Presbyterian).

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RE: FS (late)

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi John
yes, I would like to know who stands behind a web shop before dealing with
them.
An impressum is not required in Switzerland as far as I know but in Germany
and you can get billed if you don't have one (source= CT computer magazine).
greetings
Markus


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 I can not find an about or impressum  and company logo quickly on
 your
 site to see who you are, is that not required by law in you country?

Not as far as I know.  What country are you from?  I used to have a section
on my site that was similar to an about page, but dropped it when I made
my last redesign.  I searched various blogs and artists' websites and found
few of them posted detailed About pages, so I figured I'd let it slide.
Do you feel it's really necessary?

Thanks for the feedback,
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Re: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread J and K Messervy
hehehehe, what a match.  The English made the mistake of being negative 
today.  They needed to score some runs.
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 ...please no one bring it up.

 er...oops...

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RE: PESO - Big Brother

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
I agree and like the photo for it's strong message too.
greetings
Markus

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Terrific shot. Love the dramatic dress and apparent rapid movement of
the walker.
Clean light colored wall (reflections are not a distraction to me) is
an ideal setting. Congratulations!

Jack
--- DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread David Savage
On 12/5/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 There are a couple of interviews on K10D cropped up in Japanese articles.
 One is a bit more technical with a few participants by Pentax.  Another is
 with Mr.Tatamiya (nick named Tatamy in Japan :-) talking about the
 marketing side.  According to him (Tatamy), they really screwed up the
 forecasting of expected sales.  In Japan, pre-booking of K10D exceeded that
 of K100D by more than double.  In overseas market, it was even worse.  In
 certain country wherein the sales have been traditionally week, they
 estimated the first shipment be approx 50 units, but the actual order was
 1000 units.  This situation is reflected in Japanese site where a lot of
 people are still waiting.  First shipment apparently went to satisfy the
 pre-booked orders.  Next sale would be around Dec 11.  It appears that Japan
 is most suffering.  Pentax employees are not allowed to buy it (I guess they
 are talking about in-company sale).
 Technical interview reveals the inner working of their engineering,

As a few here thought. Pentax stuffed up their numbers..

 Anyway, as soon as I find time, I will translate both interviews (preempting
 the sharp-eyed finding these articles).

 Ken

Thanks Ken. Looking forward to it.

Cheers,

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RE: Published!

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
That is just great, congratulations Dario.
Markus

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All text  pictures by me, on shooting live concerts and performance:
http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/PC200612.jpg

It's been published on december issue of PC Photo magazine in Italy.

Dario

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Re: F 80-200/4.7-5.6 Initial report and quick test

2006-12-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Well...if I would have to judge based on whether I like the pictures or not, I 
would say that it is a great lens !

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Asunto: F 80-200/4.7-5.6 Initial report and quick test

Hi!

My sample is made in Vietnam, which is not exactly encouraging.

Anyway, here is a quick gallery I made with some shots:

http://boris.isra-shop.com/f80_200/

Few notes:

1. By default sharpening of my ACR is at 25%. Here I had to bump it up 
to 50% few times.

2. I am not sure I like the color reproduction though the light wasn't 
exactly good yesterday.

3. Notice that cat picture is heavily sharpened. It is probably somewhat 
soft wide open.

All in all, I would say that quick way to describe it would be Takumar 
Bayonet 135/2.5 in zoom clothes. It is usable but of course F 70-210 is 
optically superior.

Have your say, although I realize that my test pictures are not exactly 
representative.

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
There are also some nice tables in the instruction manual for the
AF540FGZ, laying out the compatibilty level with just about all Pentax
cameras. You can easily infer which generation of flash automation
each camera has. :-)

The document is here:
http://www.pentaxslr.com/files/scms_docs/AF540FGZ_web.pdf

The paragraph heading is: Functions Related to Each Flash Mode, and
start on page 66 (or 64 if you look at the printed page numbering).

Jostein

On 12/5/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Little summary:

 ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external
 and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL.

 ist-DS/DS2: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) but only
 external flash. Internal is PTTL or full power. Works quite better
 than D TTL. Offers PTTL as well.

 ist-DL/DL2/K110D/K10D: offers only PTTL.

 AFAIK all the FTZ flashes do not provide auto flash and so are about
 unusable on latest PTTL-only bodies.

 AFAIK2 the FTZ flashes do only support digital TTL which mean they
 won't work in TTL mode with LX,SuperA or 645. FGZ flashes DO support
 this.

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Re: PESO: burning bright

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
thanks markus for the suggestions. i'll try it like you've said...

regards, subash

On 12/5/06, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Subash
 I like the mood. I would try to clone out the last reflection on the right
 to make theme a magic number three and crop the photo a bit too.
 greetings
 Markus


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 Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:18 PM
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 Subject: PESO: burning bright


 hi,

 a picture of an earthern lamp, taken today. these are lit on the
 first three days of a hindu calendar month which started yesterday.
 comments and criticism, of course, welcome.

 thanks for looking.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/nsjeyan/AroundTheHouse/photo#5004655046774158402

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RE: OT - What sells

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
This is a very interesting question for me Jostein and I would like to see
if there exist cultural differencies in what's tasty here.

I have not sold single photographs so far but only got paid for foto
documentation jobs of events.
I would guess that what we call Cliche shots sells well, I just had a look
at the greeting cards at the post office.
Most of them are too sweet for me (cat,digs,babies,flowers,
landscapes). For the visitors of Switzerland I will have to take the
typical mountain photos to make the calendar a successful sale for my friend
Gabriela. No experiments are allowed :-(
greetings
Markus


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My best selling motif so far are snow crystals.

Jostein


On 12/4/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Annsan's recent comment about cats selling made me recall that this year
 I've sold alot of copies of a few dragonfly images (Darners) that I have.
 And most buyers (females) would have bought more if I had them.

 Wondering what other subjects have sold multiple times for other list
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RE: Airborne! - Wins me a trip to Rome!

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Patrick
well done, enjoy it and make some excellent photos again there!
greetings
Markus 

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Hi Guys,

This shot just landed me a 1st in a competiion organized by Red Bull 
the Malta Photographic Society.  The prize... an all expenses paid
trip to Rome to shoot a red bull event.  Naturally including a
photographer's pass.

Now where is that K10D??

Regards

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Re: OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
thanks dag. i guess that was the kind of details i was looking for
because we really don't have the background or the context in which to
place his interview. that's the reason i posted it here, so that
because you guys are there, i'll know the context and the background
better.

btw, big brother was stunning.

thanks again, regards, subash

On 12/5/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure what you meen.  He is not my favorite writer, but Sophies world 
 was a huge hit and has sold in large quantities all over the world.  The plot 
 is something like Philip K. Dick or Jorge Luis Borges could have written, 
 where the main person turns out to be fiction herself etc, but he has but a 
 lot of introductory stuff about philosophy into it as well so it is 
 interesting of you want to refresh your memory in that area.

 After some part of the problems in Israel this year he wrote a text in a 
 newspaper as a reaction.  His prose was not very well chosen and it made a 
 lot of fuss.  I agree with some representativ for Amnesty who said that the 
 reaction was sound but the wording was clumsy.  You can't use a vague and 
 pompous litterary form in an article in a newspaper discussing this kind of 
 problems without creating lots of misunderstandings.

 The result was that he was criticied for a lot of opinions he didn't have, 
 like hating jews in general.  In the end I guess he found that when the 
 questions are of the type Have you stopped hitting your wife you'd better 
 just shut up.

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RE: OT - What sells

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Shel
Did you expect that it will sell so well or did you even take the photo with
that in mind?


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I've sold a few of my cat mailbox pics - this one mostly:

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/mailboxes/catbox.html

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Kenneth Waller

 Annsan's recent comment about cats selling made me recall that this year
 I've sold alot of copies of a few dragonfly images (Darners) that I have.
 And most buyers (females) would have bought more if I had them.

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
after west indies a little earlier and south africa now, i'd be glad
if no one brings cricket up. of course there is always the luxury of
an escape route: blame it on that aussie, chappell ;-))

On 12/5/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 er...oops...

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Re: OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread DagT
I'm not sure what you meen.  He is not my favorite writer, but Sophies world 
was a huge hit and has sold in large quantities all over the world.  The plot 
is something like Philip K. Dick or Jorge Luis Borges could have written, where 
the main person turns out to be fiction herself etc, but he has but a lot of 
introductory stuff about philosophy into it as well so it is interesting of you 
want to refresh your memory in that area.

After some part of the problems in Israel this year he wrote a text in a 
newspaper as a reaction.  His prose was not very well chosen and it made a lot 
of fuss.  I agree with some representativ for Amnesty who said that the 
reaction was sound but the wording was clumsy.  You can't use a vague and 
pompous litterary form in an article in a newspaper discussing this kind of 
problems without creating lots of misunderstandings.

The result was that he was criticied for a lot of opinions he didn't have, like 
hating jews in general.  In the end I guess he found that when the questions 
are of the type Have you stopped hitting your wife you'd better just shut up.

This was my version of it, anyway.

DagT

 Fra: SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Dato: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 09:25:19 CET
 Til: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Emne: OT: Norwegian novelist
 
 hi,
 
 someone did mention a little after i joined the list that literary
 discussions on the list once in a while is ok. so...
 
 the norwegian novelist Jostein Gaarder was here in india recently and
 one of my colleagues had interviewed him. nice interview, reads well
 and his take on things happens to go well here...within my memory, he
 is one of the first norwegian novelists to be interviewed here. he is
 being translated into hindi, *one* of the indian languages, and which
 i do not know. i am quite tempted to read him in an english
 translation. perhaps (our) jostein, dag, tim (or anybody else) can
 throw a little more light on the things he is talking about...
 
 here is the epaper version of the article (which retains the layout,
 fonts and the look and feel of the paper as it is published):
 
 http://epaper.thehindu.com/pdf/2006/12/03/20061203L_003101005.jpg
 
 and the plain, html, internet version of the interview:
 
 http://www.hindu.com/lr/2006/12/03/stories/2006120300130300.htm
 
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Re: OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Subash,

If you mean specifics about what he refers to in the article, here goes:

During the Israeli/Hizbollah war in Lebanon this summer, many who
sympathise with Israel in Norway had a hard time. The reactions were
all over the place, from anger with Israel and/or Hizbollah, to deep
worries that this conflict would spread to other neighbouring
countries, primarily Syria and Egypt. Jostein Gaarder vented his
frustration in a newspaper article. The normal Norwegian reaction to
his kind of rhetorics is to incite a debate where the opponents
gradually put polarised language away and dig more deeply into subject
matter. IOW, the intial article is meant to rouse people into healthy
discussion. Gaarder's article, however, didn't go down well with the
local jewish community at that time. Some person there had it
translated to English, and it was published both in Israel and in
other countries.

Taken out of the context of a national political/ethic debate, the
article looked very rude and demeaning to jews. Gaarder  withdrew from
the debate when he understood he had put his foot in it. He has spent
months trying to repair his reputation, and from this interview he
seems to have some work to do yet. :-)

I haven't read any of his books, but according to my wife who has read
several, the plot in The Solitaire Mystery is better than the one in
Sophie's World. But there's always something special with the book
he's most famous for I suppose.

The other Jostein :-)


On 12/5/06, SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,

 someone did mention a little after i joined the list that literary
 discussions on the list once in a while is ok. so...

 the norwegian novelist Jostein Gaarder was here in india recently and
 one of my colleagues had interviewed him. nice interview, reads well
 and his take on things happens to go well here...within my memory, he
 is one of the first norwegian novelists to be interviewed here. he is
 being translated into hindi, *one* of the indian languages, and which
 i do not know. i am quite tempted to read him in an english
 translation. perhaps (our) jostein, dag, tim (or anybody else) can
 throw a little more light on the things he is talking about...

 here is the epaper version of the article (which retains the layout,
 fonts and the look and feel of the paper as it is published):

 http://epaper.thehindu.com/pdf/2006/12/03/20061203L_003101005.jpg

 and the plain, html, internet version of the interview:

 http://www.hindu.com/lr/2006/12/03/stories/2006120300130300.htm

 regards, subash

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread Brian Walters
Now, now.be nice.  They're not back yet.

For the benefit of our North American friends, Dave is talking cricket.  For 
the benefit of our English friends Yeah!



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO: Birthday Guest

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 11:42:32 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Birthday Guest
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 ann sanfedele wrote:
  Mark Roberts wrote:
 ann sanfedele wrote:
 David Savage wrote:
 On 12/3/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:...
 
 ...I like the spider, but I wish it had more DOF.
 
 Me too. But there was fly screen behind it that would have looked like
 bad moire if I'd gone for more DOF, so it was a compromise.
 
 Thanks for looking.
 
 Sort of a question of moire or less ???
 
 Ouch! Annsan, you should never have posted a pun like that under your 
 own name. You should have used an alias...
  
  nah I'm sort of anti-aliasing
 
 I'm sure there is a pattern developing here but I can't see it.  Which 
 is making me cross.
 
 You'll just have to grin and Bayer it.

If I interpolate you correctly, you are saying that matrix have come to an end.


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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:

 Thanks for that Adam on Boz's site the DS2 is listed as HS whatever that
 is,

Look for High-Speed flash in

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread David Savage
LOL

That game should have been a draw.

I've never been a fan of blaming the coach. From what we're hearing
here Greg Chappell isn't the most popular person at the moment.

Cheers,

Dave


On 12/5/06, SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 after west indies a little earlier and south africa now, i'd be glad
 if no one brings cricket up. of course there is always the luxury of
 an escape route: blame it on that aussie, chappell ;-))

 On 12/5/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...please no one bring it up.
 
  er...oops...
 
  Dave.

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread J and K Messervy
For our American friends, I could explain cricket, but it'd take about 
100,000 words and I'm just not going to type all night.

Imagine a slow moving baseball game that goes for 5 days and you'd be 
getting sort of close.

:)
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 Now, now.be nice.  They're not back yet.

 For the benefit of our North American friends, Dave is talking cricket. 
 For the benefit of our English friends Yeah!



 Cheers

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Re: OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
hi jostein,

thanks a ton for filling in the details. basically nobody here knows
exactly what happened and the only 'information' we have here is his
version of things. but we did get the impression that his words were
taken out of the initial context in which they were said/written i.e.,
for a norwegian audience. but it does seem a little naive not to
expect controversy when talking about something as contentious as the
recent war between israel and lebanon.

i think i'll start with the 'safer' Sophie's World.

regards, subash

On 12/5/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Subash,

 If you mean specifics about what he refers to in the article, here goes:

 During the Israeli/Hizbollah war in Lebanon this summer, many who
 sympathise with Israel in Norway had a hard time. The reactions were
 all over the place, from anger with Israel and/or Hizbollah, to deep
 worries that this conflict would spread to other neighbouring
 countries, primarily Syria and Egypt. Jostein Gaarder vented his
 frustration in a newspaper article. The normal Norwegian reaction to
 his kind of rhetorics is to incite a debate where the opponents
 gradually put polarised language away and dig more deeply into subject
 matter. IOW, the intial article is meant to rouse people into healthy
 discussion. Gaarder's article, however, didn't go down well with the
 local jewish community at that time. Some person there had it
 translated to English, and it was published both in Israel and in
 other countries.

 Taken out of the context of a national political/ethic debate, the
 article looked very rude and demeaning to jews. Gaarder  withdrew from
 the debate when he understood he had put his foot in it. He has spent
 months trying to repair his reputation, and from this interview he
 seems to have some work to do yet. :-)

 I haven't read any of his books, but according to my wife who has read
 several, the plot in The Solitaire Mystery is better than the one in
 Sophie's World. But there's always something special with the book
 he's most famous for I suppose.

 The other Jostein :-)

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Re: OT: Steam Powered

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 11:47:34 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Steam Powered
 
 I'm a fan of trains and worked for a railroad for a time.  Any of the
 managers in the Operating Dept. would have transfered back into the
 line to be a steam locomotive engineer.
 
 Any train that a steam locomotive could get rolling, it could pull at
 60+ mph. (Traction is poor with steel wheels on steel track, but steam
 locos had plenty of horsepower.  So if you got it rolling...)
 
 Diesel-electrics had the weight to get the train rolling, but didn't
 have the horsepower to move much faster than 20 mph.  They were sold
 by companies like GM to the Maintenance Departments based on repair
 records and available time.
 
 The Maintenance Departments knew that Steam Locos were available only
 50% of the time or less.  Diesel-electrics were (are) available 90-95%
 of the time.  Less cost per hour to operate, smaller maintenance
 facilities around the line, more cost efficient all the way around.
 
 As a result, railroads became much less exciting.  Speeds slowed to a
 crawl, then maintenance of the right of way fell off as high standards
 weren't needed to keep the speeding trains on the tracks.  More
 savings for the Maintenance of Way Depts.

Not correct in the UK.  Diesel-electric trains regularly cruise at the speed 
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Re: OT - What sells

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Bob Shell wrote:
 On Dec 4, 2006, at 4:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Sailboats, waterfalls, not a lot of each print but in the aggregate a
 few, but single shot I've sold the most of is this...

 http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_untitledv.html

 That's a really nice photo.  I can see why it would be popular.

 Thanks. it's available in BW as well.

Interesting. I found the colour scheme really attractive, sort part 
and parcel. Can you share the BW v?

Kostas

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 There are also some nice tables in the instruction manual for the
 AF540FGZ, laying out the compatibilty level with just about all 
 Pentax cameras. You can easily infer which generation of flash automation
 each camera has. :-)

Thanks Jostein, that's extremely helpful. That table is absent from the AF-
360FGZ manual I have. Maybe an early manual?

Regards,

John



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Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

 There are also some nice tables in the instruction manual for the
 AF540FGZ, laying out the compatibilty level with just about all 
 Pentax cameras. You can easily infer which generation of flash automation
 each camera has. :-)
 
 The document is here:
 http://www.pentaxslr.com/files/scms_docs/AF540FGZ_web.pdf
 
 The paragraph heading is: Functions Related to Each Flash Mode, and
 start on page 66 (or 64 if you look at the printed page numbering).
 
 Jostein
 
 On 12/5/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Little summary:
 
  ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external
  and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL.
 
  ist-DS/DS2: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) but only
  external flash. Internal is PTTL or full power. Works quite better
  than D TTL. Offers PTTL as well.
 
  ist-DL/DL2/K110D/K10D: offers only PTTL.
 
  AFAIK all the FTZ flashes do not provide auto flash and so are about
  unusable on latest PTTL-only bodies.
 
  AFAIK2 the FTZ flashes do only support digital TTL which mean they
  won't work in TTL mode with LX,SuperA or 645. FGZ flashes DO support
  this.
 
  Conclusion (to stay simple) is: throw your FTZ away and buy FGZ ...
 
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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
he certainly is not. too much experimentation seems to be the
general accusation. there's much more to it than that of course. too
much money in indian cricket, for starters. :) (we've some lovely
little ads with mcgrath and lee promoting indian products :))

regards, subash

On 12/5/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LOL

 That game should have been a draw.

 I've never been a fan of blaming the coach. From what we're hearing
 here Greg Chappell isn't the most popular person at the moment.

 Cheers,

 Dave


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  after west indies a little earlier and south africa now, i'd be glad
  if no one brings cricket up. of course there is always the luxury of
  an escape route: blame it on that aussie, chappell ;-))

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, J and K Messervy wrote:

 Imagine a slow moving baseball game that goes for 5 days and you'd be
 getting sort of close.

You forgot the woollie pullie. That's what makes it a real sport. Oh, 
and the butcher recruited for a referee, white coat an' a'.

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 Looks like the 330 will 
 only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missing something?)

It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would 
perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not 
later bodies that are digital only such as the KD's.

John 

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 Yes - I find the AF280T more versatile than the 330.  At least its 
 got an inbuilt sensor to cut off the light, which should allow it to 
 be used with the KD bodies in non-TTL mode.  Looks like the 330 will 
 only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missing something?)
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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 Quoting John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   I don't know about the FTZ330 with the K10D (although I suspect
  it 
   woun't work in TTL mode).  It works in TTL mode on the DS
  although 
   the manual warns that image may be underexposed near minimum 
   aperture and overexposed near open aperture in lenses with bright
  F 
   value.  Not sure what bright F value means - fast lenses?
  
  Thanks Brian, it's getting more confusing -:) 
  I can even use the old AF280T with the *ist D but I'm thinking of
  future 
  camera purchases.
  
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Re: OT: Norwegian novelist

2006-12-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Subash, I happen to be a Russian Jew living in Israel. So if you want
to discuss this kind of issue in order to know at least half of the
perspective, please contact me off-list.

Thanks.

On 12/5/06, SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi jostein,

 thanks a ton for filling in the details. basically nobody here knows
 exactly what happened and the only 'information' we have here is his
 version of things. but we did get the impression that his words were
 taken out of the initial context in which they were said/written i.e.,
 for a norwegian audience. but it does seem a little naive not to
 expect controversy when talking about something as contentious as the
 recent war between israel and lebanon.

 i think i'll start with the 'safer' Sophie's World.

 regards, subash

 On 12/5/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Subash,
 
  If you mean specifics about what he refers to in the article, here goes:
 
  During the Israeli/Hizbollah war in Lebanon this summer, many who
  sympathise with Israel in Norway had a hard time. The reactions were
  all over the place, from anger with Israel and/or Hizbollah, to deep
  worries that this conflict would spread to other neighbouring
  countries, primarily Syria and Egypt. Jostein Gaarder vented his
  frustration in a newspaper article. The normal Norwegian reaction to
  his kind of rhetorics is to incite a debate where the opponents
  gradually put polarised language away and dig more deeply into subject
  matter. IOW, the intial article is meant to rouse people into healthy
  discussion. Gaarder's article, however, didn't go down well with the
  local jewish community at that time. Some person there had it
  translated to English, and it was published both in Israel and in
  other countries.
 
  Taken out of the context of a national political/ethic debate, the
  article looked very rude and demeaning to jews. Gaarder  withdrew from
  the debate when he understood he had put his foot in it. He has spent
  months trying to repair his reputation, and from this interview he
  seems to have some work to do yet. :-)
 
  I haven't read any of his books, but according to my wife who has read
  several, the plot in The Solitaire Mystery is better than the one in
  Sophie's World. But there's always something special with the book
  he's most famous for I suppose.
 
  The other Jostein :-)

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 Conclusion (to stay simple) is: throw your FTZ away and buy FGZ ...

RR! no, keep the AF-400FTZ for the MZ-3, the AF280T for the Super A, MX, 
645 etc. Sell the AF-330FTZ...I already have the AF360FGZ -;)


John 


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Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

 Little summary:
 
 ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external
 and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL.
 
 ist-DS/DS2: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) but only
 external flash. Internal is PTTL or full power. Works quite better
 than D TTL. Offers PTTL as well.
 
 ist-DL/DL2/K110D/K10D: offers only PTTL.
 
 AFAIK all the FTZ flashes do not provide auto flash and so are about
 unusable on latest PTTL-only bodies.
 
 AFAIK2 the FTZ flashes do only support digital TTL which mean they
 won't work in TTL mode with LX,SuperA or 645. FGZ flashes DO support
 this.
 
 Conclusion (to stay simple) is: throw your FTZ away and buy FGZ ...
 
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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:

 It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would
 perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not
 later bodies that are digital only such as the KD's.

As an auto?

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RE: Re: OT: external hard drive with RAID 1

2006-12-05 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Mike
that's the way I would do it. KISS = Keep it simple and stupid.

A good and fast tool to automate the backup copy is the freeware
treeclone.
greetings
Markus





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On 12/4/06, Michael Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Apologies if I mis-characterize, but I do not think that you are
 fully in comprehension of what a RAID 1 storage scenario implies.

You're right.  That's partly why I was asking these questions.  Thanks
for your help!

Looks like I will just use backup software to copy the data to both
external hard drives and use my present setup with a third hard drive.

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 Look for High-Speed flash in
 
 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

That figures I guess, shutter speeds above sync speed?

John 


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  Thanks for that Adam on Boz's site the DS2 is listed as HS whatever 
that
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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 As an auto?

No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?

John 


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  It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would
  perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not
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Re: PESO - Big Brother

2006-12-05 Thread Simon King
Dag,
One (hyphenated) word. Sen-frickin-sational.
Cheers
Simon



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 I agree and like the photo for it's strong message too.
 greetings
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 Terrific shot. Love the dramatic dress and apparent rapid movement of
 the walker.
 Clean light colored wall (reflections are not a distraction to me) is
 an ideal setting. Congratulations!
 
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Re: How Long ...

2006-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
And they followed up with a crippled whore.
On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:34 PM, William Robb wrote:


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 Subject: Re: How Long ...


 Bruce never returned to eat his hat. Remember how certain he was that
 Pentax would never go digitial?

 The best they could come up with was a cheap plastic toy.
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Re: OT - What sells

2006-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great stuff, Mark.

On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:20 AM, Mark Cassino wrote:

 It really varies.  At my last show opening I sold three copies of this:

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/landscapes/mslm.htm

 and it pretty much has sold out at the last couple of art fairs I had 
 it in.

 This IR landscape has sold out in my last few shows:

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/new/IMGP4312.htm

 Dragonflies have been very popular - this one has sold well retail, and
 was also sold to national Geographic Explorer -

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/new/IMGP1690.htm

 I don't get much in terms of retail sales of snow crystals - maybe just
 5 - 10 prints a year. But they've been good stock sales going to
 everywhere from a Ski Resort in Spain, for use in wrapping paper at a
 Canadian dept store, and in a hospital waiting room.  And they sell 
 well
 as greeting cards.

 This shot used to sell by the dozen in card form at art fairs -

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/030301.htm

 But I don't think I ever sold more than 2 or 3 as large prints in the
 last several years.

 These two have the distinction of being the only shots I've sold as
 single prints for over $1000 each (but you should of seen the framing) 
 -

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/new/67_355.htm

 http://markcassino.com/galleries/new/67_413.htm

 - MCC



 Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Annsan's recent comment about cats selling made me recall that this 
 year
 I've sold alot of copies of a few dragonfly images (Darners) that I 
 have.
 And most buyers (females) would have bought more if I had them.

 Wondering what other subjects have sold multiple times for other list
 members?

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:

 No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?

Not great with electronics, but I am guessing that all a flash needs 
so as to operate in self-quenching auto is something to tell it 
flash. That's the middle round contact and the ground on the side, 
isn't it?

Pentax flashes are actually program, rather than auto, in that they 
also use the mode contact which tells the body to set the aperture. 
Not sure if that will work with the digital cameras.

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

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Re: K-10 comments

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 05/12/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Menu/over two/down two/over one/up one/OK.

 You really can't do it accidentally.

Like you can with erase/delete all?

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Brian Walters

I may be wrong but won't the AF280T work as a non-dedicated, automatic flash on 
any body that will cause it to fire?  The mechanism for quenching the flash 
output is in the flash unit itself.

It certainly seems to work that way on the DS - you need to set the aperture 
range appropriate for the red or green settings on the back of the flash unit.



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia



Quoting John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  As an auto?
 
 No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?
 
 John 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.
 
  On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:
  
   It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the
 AF280T would
   perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist
 D but not
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Re: K10D: Another Studio Example

2006-12-05 Thread Angel Ramos
Paul,
What are you using to fire the monolights?  A hot shoe to pc attachment?
Angel Ramos
Arecibo, Puerto Rico

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 Yes, I'm using one of the :-))
 Seriously, I'm using a pair of Studio Pro Excalibur monolights,  
 firing into umbrellas. Easy to light. I already knew they worked very  
 well. Today, I'm most pleased with the performance of the K10 in  
 terms of resolution, rendering and noise.
 Best,
 Paul
 On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

   
 Nice work Paul - the lighting in both your studio shots was excellent.
 Just to confirm - are you using one of the

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 I had to shoot some more ad materials today for contest entries. This
 was with the K10D at ISO 100 with studio strobes, ff16 @ 1/180th in X
 exposure mode. Two monolights. Here's the full image:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5284166size=lg

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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 05/12/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As a few here thought. Pentax stuffed up their numbers..

Yes, and got roasted for daring to suggest such incompetence existed.

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Re: And now a word from our sposor

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Bill, I was following this up until the bit about Jester. Then I got 
 completely confused.

The subject line should have given you a clue that what followed was not likely 
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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 Not great with electronics, but I am guessing that all a flash needs 
 so as to operate in self-quenching auto is something to tell it 
 flash. That's the middle round contact and the ground on the side, 
 isn't it?

I'm not great with electronis either and my typing is getting steadily worse
 -:)

You may well be right about the two contacts required for basic operation.

 Pentax flashes are actually program, rather than auto, in that they 
 also use the mode contact which tells the body to set the aperture. 
 Not sure if that will work with the digital cameras.

Nor me.

John 


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  No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?
 
 Not great with electronics, but I am guessing that all a flash needs 
 so as to operate in self-quenching auto is something to tell it 
 flash. That's the middle round contact and the ground on the side, 
 isn't it?
 
 Pentax flashes are actually program, rather than auto, in that they 
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 Not sure if that will work with the digital cameras.
 
 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html
 
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Re: How Long ...

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 05/12/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/04/06 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us

 Oh, Valentine!
 I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of
 threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days.

I had a chat with Valentin last month, he's no longer teaching and is
now an IT dude. Ha made mention of the K10D but is only currently a
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Re: K10D: Another Studio Example

2006-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, I have a pc adapter that fits in the hot shoe. Promaster makes one 
that sells for less than twenty dollars. Works great.
Paul
On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Angel Ramos wrote:

 Paul,
 What are you using to fire the monolights?  A hot shoe to pc 
 attachment?
 Angel Ramos
 Arecibo, Puerto Rico

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Hi Mark,
 Yes, I'm using one of the :-))
 Seriously, I'm using a pair of Studio Pro Excalibur monolights,
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 well. Today, I'm most pleased with the performance of the K10 in
 terms of resolution, rendering and noise.
 Best,
 Paul
 On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:


 Nice work Paul - the lighting in both your studio shots was 
 excellent.
 Just to confirm - are you using one of the

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I had to shoot some more ad materials today for contest entries. 
 This
 was with the K10D at ISO 100 with studio strobes, ff16 @ 1/180th in 
 X
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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Once it became obvious that the K10 was going to be in great demand, it 
was obvious that Pentax wouldn't be able to meet initial demand. Same 
as Nikon. The same thing happens in the car business when a product 
takes off. It's not necessarily incompetent to be conservative in your 
original volume estimates.
Paul
On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:16 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 09:39:02 GMT
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 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.
 
  Looks like the 330 will 
  only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missing something?)
 
 It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would 
 perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not 
 later bodies that are digital only such as the KD's.
 
 John 

You can use it on auto.

 
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  Yes - I find the AF280T more versatile than the 330.  At least its 
  got an inbuilt sensor to cut off the light, which should allow it to 
  be used with the KD bodies in non-TTL mode.  Looks like the 330 will 
  only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missing something?)
  
  Cheers
  
  Brian
  
  ++
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  Quoting John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
I don't know about the FTZ330 with the K10D (although I suspect
   it 
woun't work in TTL mode).  It works in TTL mode on the DS
   although 
the manual warns that image may be underexposed near minimum 
aperture and overexposed near open aperture in lenses with bright
   F 
value.  Not sure what bright F value means - fast lenses?
   
   Thanks Brian, it's getting more confusing -:) 
   I can even use the old AF280T with the *ist D but I'm thinking of
   future 
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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 05/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Once it became obvious that the K10 was going to be in great demand, it
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 as Nikon. The same thing happens in the car business when a product
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Anyone with any sense could have correlated the sales potential with
the price point that they settled on, it wasn't a case of
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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  As an auto?
 
 No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?
 
 John 

You don't need that.  The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything that you can 
set the aperture on and that will fire them.  They have a built-in sensor to 
tell them when to quench.  Probably others in that series, too, like the 200 
and 160.

 
 
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  On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:
  
   It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would
   perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not
   later bodies that are digital only such as the KD's.
  
  As an auto?
  
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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 11:06:20 GMT
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 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.
 
 On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote:
 
  No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin?
 
 Not great with electronics, but I am guessing that all a flash needs 
 so as to operate in self-quenching auto is something to tell it 
 flash. That's the middle round contact and the ground on the side, 
 isn't it?
 
 Pentax flashes are actually program, rather than auto, in that they 
 also use the mode contact which tells the body to set the aperture. 
 Not sure if that will work with the digital cameras.
 
 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html

It's just the way he's written it.  The above is an extra feature on flashes 
not having TTL.  You need a camera set to Program (sic) mode for it to 
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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
It's those little bumps on the lens mount that make the electrical
contact for reading info from the lens.  Turn the aperture from f22 to
'A' and watch the last bump in the series move up 1 mm - contact!  If
you don't have 'A' set, you don't need the chip's mtf info.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/4/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 F series and later transmit MTF and other info to the body. The
 assumption is that the transmission requires power of some sort.

 stan

 On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Celio wrote:

  Anyone got any theories on how F and later series lenses are powered?
 
  What are you talking about?  The only lenses I can think of that would
  need
  any power are the Power Zoom and (future) supersonic focusing lenses,
  both
  of which have those two special contacts just inside the lens mount for
  providing power from the camera body.  Otherwise, all other lenses are
  driven by the camera's AF motor.  Is there something else that would
  need
  power?
 
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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The slowest moving baseball game I've ever been to lasted until 3:00 AM 
(it started at 7:00 PM the previous day, weather was a light mist), in 
the pouring rain.  I don't remember which team won, just that the people 
I was with insisted in staying to the end, like a fool I stayed with them...
I'd have killed for a 5 day game with sleep breaks in good weather.

J and K Messervy wrote:
 For our American friends, I could explain cricket, but it'd take about 
 100,000 words and I'm just not going to type all night.

 Imagine a slow moving baseball game that goes for 5 days and you'd be 
 getting sort of close.

 :)
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 Now, now.be nice.  They're not back yet.

 For the benefit of our North American friends, Dave is talking cricket. 
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Re: GFM galleries

2006-12-05 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Didn't Doug Franklin rustle-up some posts a couple years ago?

 Here's mine from three years ago:
 http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/151148136OOdVUM
 and the ONE photo I posted this year:
 http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/Photo/GFM_06/sunset.jpg

 CW

Looks like it was shot using a borrowed card.

g

Here are mine from 2005-2006

 From 2005

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/GrandFather%20Mountain%20NPW%202005/

 From 2006

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/Grandfather%20Mountain%20NPW%202006/

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 Anyone got a list of the various GFM galleries that have been put up
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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/12/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's those little bumps on the lens mount that make the electrical
 contact for reading info from the lens.  Turn the aperture from f22 to
 'A' and watch the last bump in the series move up 1 mm - contact!  If
 you don't have 'A' set, you don't need the chip's mtf info.

The A contact retracts to sever contact in early lenses to indicate
that the lens is not in the A position however on later lenses it is
continuously spring loaded. Aperture range information is decoded by
the contacts on the body however later lenses provide ID info and MTF
data which are stored on a ROM inside the lens.

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Re: OT: Don't mention the Ashes

2006-12-05 Thread Doug Franklin
J and K Messervy wrote:

 Imagine a slow moving baseball game that goes for 5 days and you'd be 
 getting sort of close.

Yeah, but you'd have to add back in the fact that they're playing
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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/05/06 7:55 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone with any sense could have correlated the sales potential with
 the price point that they settled on, it wasn't a case of
 conservatism.

I do not think the popularity of K100/10D came from the price point only,
which BTW is pretty compatible with competitions, depending on which to
compare.  I would say they put an honest pricing.
In Tatamy's interview, he is saying that they anticipated a good sales of
K10D but because it is still a sub grand camera, they never thought it would
exceed the sales of K100D.
He is also telling how they prioritized the cost distribution (which feature
to spend money on etc).  So, overall, I do not believe it was a
price-competition model.  Sounds like this was the result of sound
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Re: K10D: Another Studio Example

2006-12-05 Thread Angel Ramos
Tks Paul!
Angel

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Yes, I have a pc adapter that fits in the hot shoe. Promaster makes one 
 that sells for less than twenty dollars. Works great.
 Paul
 On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Angel Ramos wrote:

   
 Paul,
 What are you using to fire the monolights?  A hot shoe to pc 
 attachment?
 Angel Ramos
 Arecibo, Puerto Rico

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 Yes, I'm using one of the :-))
 Seriously, I'm using a pair of Studio Pro Excalibur monolights,
 firing into umbrellas. Easy to light. I already knew they worked very
 well. Today, I'm most pleased with the performance of the K10 in
 terms of resolution, rendering and noise.
 Best,
 Paul
 On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:


   
 Nice work Paul - the lighting in both your studio shots was 
 excellent.
 Just to confirm - are you using one of the

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 
 I had to shoot some more ad materials today for contest entries. 
 This
 was with the K10D at ISO 100 with studio strobes, ff16 @ 1/180th in 
 X
 exposure mode. Two monolights. Here's the full image:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5284166size=lg

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Re: OT - What sells

2006-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I may still have it on line as a PESO, I'll see.

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 Bob Shell wrote:
 
 On Dec 4, 2006, at 4:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 Sailboats, waterfalls, not a lot of each print but in the aggregate a
 few, but single shot I've sold the most of is this...

 http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_untitledv.html
 
 That's a really nice photo.  I can see why it would be popular.
   
 Thanks. it's available in BW as well.
 

 Interesting. I found the colour scheme really attractive, sort part 
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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
Bob,

Do you mean that the camera doesn't recognise the lens if the aperture
ring is set to other than A?

Jostein
(currently a couple of km away from my camera)

On 12/5/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's those little bumps on the lens mount that make the electrical
 contact for reading info from the lens.  Turn the aperture from f22 to
 'A' and watch the last bump in the series move up 1 mm - contact!  If
 you don't have 'A' set, you don't need the chip's mtf info.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On 12/4/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  F series and later transmit MTF and other info to the body. The
  assumption is that the transmission requires power of some sort.
 
  stan
 
  On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Celio wrote:
 
   Anyone got any theories on how F and later series lenses are powered?
  
   What are you talking about?  The only lenses I can think of that would
   need
   any power are the Power Zoom and (future) supersonic focusing lenses,
   both
   of which have those two special contacts just inside the lens mount for
   providing power from the camera body.  Otherwise, all other lenses are
   driven by the camera's AF motor.  Is there something else that would
   need
   power?
  
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Re: And now a word from our sposor

2006-12-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Well that's sad...  Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/4/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill, I was following this up until the bit about Jester. Then I got
 completely confused.

 Dave

 At 01:37 PM 5/12/2006, William Robb wrote:
 You must stop sending me HTML emails.
 please.
 
 Anyway, I'll find the DVD with those pictures ASAP.
 
 Wedding photography is as stressful as you care to make it.
 I tend to make it pretty stressful myself.
 
 Some things I discovered that helped alleviate this:
 
 They have a pretty even chance of being divorced within a few years, so
 the photography is about as disposable as a used car.
 You may as well charge like a Rolls Royce, the pictures won't be around
 long enough to prove they are a Chevette.
 
 The brides mother is going to hate the pictures no matter what. She
 already hates the asshole that her daughter chose to fall in love with,
 and will transfer this loathing onto the pictures.
 Don't worry about it, it's not a battle that can be won.
 Don't fight it.
 Take the opportunity to turn daughter against mother, instead.
 
 If you have to, point out that this is the father of her grandchild.
 
 Remember what the truly important pictures are, and get them.
 Pictures of the bride and groom together are not necessarily the most
 important in the long haul.
 
 Generally, it is the family portraits. Make sure you get family
 portraits of just the grooms family, and just the brides family.
 Weddings are about families.
 
 Hedge your bets and go with blood, not law or religion.
 
 Jester is 23 inches at the shoulder and about 70 pounds.
 He has very little bite inhibition, and is very dominant.
 I may have to kill him.
 
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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Adam Maas
Digital Image Studio wrote:
 On 05/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Once it became obvious that the K10 was going to be in great demand, it
 was obvious that Pentax wouldn't be able to meet initial demand. Same
 as Nikon. The same thing happens in the car business when a product
 takes off. It's not necessarily incompetent to be conservative in your
 original volume estimates.
 
 Anyone with any sense could have correlated the sales potential with
 the price point that they settled on, it wasn't a case of
 conservatism.
 

I'd disagree. The price point was a natural (A hair less than the 
closest equivalent Nikon). I think it was a combination of expecting 
more from the competition and making a product that was simply superior 
to everything else on the market at that price point.

Pentax was expecting Pentax-level sales. They got much better sales than 
that. They weren't expecting the level of interest from non-Pentax users 
that they got.

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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, that's how my cameras behave.

G

On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:10 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

 Do you mean that the camera doesn't recognise the lens if the aperture
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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Adam Maas
There's an extra contact on F and later lenses that is for digital 
communication between the lens and body. The A contacts only transmit 
max and min aperture info via the contacts, F and later lenses transmit 
focal length, current aperture and MTF data (FA and later for MTF) via 
the digital communication pin. This requires a a small amount of power.

-Adam

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 It's those little bumps on the lens mount that make the electrical
 contact for reading info from the lens.  Turn the aperture from f22 to
 'A' and watch the last bump in the series move up 1 mm - contact!  If
 you don't have 'A' set, you don't need the chip's mtf info.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On 12/4/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 F series and later transmit MTF and other info to the body. The
 assumption is that the transmission requires power of some sort.

 stan

 On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Celio wrote:

 Anyone got any theories on how F and later series lenses are powered?
 What are you talking about?  The only lenses I can think of that would
 need
 any power are the Power Zoom and (future) supersonic focusing lenses,
 both
 of which have those two special contacts just inside the lens mount for
 providing power from the camera body.  Otherwise, all other lenses are
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 power?

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Re: Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread DagT
 Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 05/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Once it became obvious that the K10 was going to be in great demand, it
  was obvious that Pentax wouldn't be able to meet initial demand. Same
  as Nikon. The same thing happens in the car business when a product
  takes off. It's not necessarily incompetent to be conservative in your
  original volume estimates.
 
 Anyone with any sense could have correlated the sales potential with
 the price point that they settled on, it wasn't a case of
 conservatism.

Maybe they listened too much to those who say they are doomed anyway .-)

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Re: How do F and later lenses get power?

2006-12-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,

No, Rob's post has said it best.

On the A series lenses, the bump retracted to break the circuit and
signal that you were using manual apertures...very useful on the Super
Program.  I imagine no problems on the K10D with this as the lens
would just be used as an older M or K lens.

I do appreciate the A lenses more now as they function seamlessly with
the digital cameras.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/5/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob,

 Do you mean that the camera doesn't recognise the lens if the aperture
 ring is set to other than A?

 Jostein
 (currently a couple of km away from my camera)

 On 12/5/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's those little bumps on the lens mount that make the electrical
  contact for reading info from the lens.  Turn the aperture from f22 to
  'A' and watch the last bump in the series move up 1 mm - contact!  If
  you don't have 'A' set, you don't need the chip's mtf info.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On 12/4/06, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   F series and later transmit MTF and other info to the body. The
   assumption is that the transmission requires power of some sort.
  
   stan
  
   On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Celio wrote:
  
Anyone got any theories on how F and later series lenses are powered?
   
What are you talking about?  The only lenses I can think of that would
need
any power are the Power Zoom and (future) supersonic focusing lenses,
both
of which have those two special contacts just inside the lens mount for
providing power from the camera body.  Otherwise, all other lenses are
driven by the camera's AF motor.  Is there something else that would
need
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Re: Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/12/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe they listened too much to those who say they are doomed anyway .-)

Well let's face it, they aren't a premium photographic company stock
in the eyes of the vast majority of commercial analysts, there has to
be a reason for this, poor management come to mind?

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K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread cbwaters
Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?  

How's the K10 strap?

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Re: OT: Steam Powered

2006-12-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote:

SJ wrote:
 
 there are a couple of 'heritage' tracks (mostly to hill stations) in
 india which still use steam (mostly for tourism these days) but until
 very recently we had a lot of steam locomotives running around. 
 
 you might find this interesting: 
 
 http://www.irfca.org/faq/faq-steam.html
 
 regards, subash

India did, and so did the Chinese, who only dieselized in the last 5-10 
years. Some rather interesting big steam designs over there as well.

My sentimental favorite steam line runs to my hometown - or the closest 
thing I have to a hometown, given how much my family has moved around - 
in Devon: The Paignton and Dartmouth Steam Railway, which runs between 
Paignton and Kingswear, where we lived when I was young. It even has a 
Wkikpedia entry now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paignton_and_Dartmouth_Steam_Railway
but better photos here:
http://www.steampics.com/html/pdr.html

I have a shot of one of the engines somewhere that I've posted on line 
a couple of times. I'll have to dig it up again.


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Re: How Long ...

2006-12-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
Mark Roberts wrote:

 I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the
 record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time.

Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty
managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical
documentation. He wasn't around for long either.

Jostein

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread David Savage
The same, film rewind tit and all.

Well, it's different for my because the strap on my 50th anniversary
*istD had gold embroidered lettering instead of silver (to match the
gold shutter release, 4 way controller, Pentax lettering on the prism
housing etc.)

Dave

On 12/5/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?

 How's the K10 strap?

 CW

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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/05/06 9:02 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well let's face it, they aren't a premium photographic company stock
 in the eyes of the vast majority of commercial analysts, there has to
 be a reason for this, poor management come to mind?

When underdog did a good trick, don't you admit it, forget his/her past
poor behaviour and give him a treat? :-).

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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hi Ken,

Thank you for priceless contribution to this list.

Regards

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread Jerome Reyes
 Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?

 How's the K10 strap?


Identical to the K100 strap. It just says PENTAX in bright red letters, no
pockets...

Actually, now that I look at it side by side, it's the same as the *ist D
strap, too. Just doesn't say ist D (obviously) and the white letters are
now red and in a slightly different font. Looks a bit sexier to me.

As an aside, I find it a little comical that the buckles on all three
camera straps still have the little point on them that used to be used for
pushing those little buttons on film cameras (midroll rewind, etc)... but
now they serve no purpose besides poking people who are in the way of your
photo. I guess they did that so that they could say that there cameras AND
straps are backwards compatible will previous equipment. go pentax! They
think of everything g


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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/05/06 8:39 AM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pentax was expecting Pentax-level sales. They got much better sales than
 that. They weren't expecting the level of interest from non-Pentax users
 that they got.

True.
This is what Tatamy is saying in his new interview.

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread Jerome Reyes
David Savage wrote:

 film rewind tit and all

I knew there was a very technical term for that;
just couldn't think of it. Thanks, David vbg


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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread pnstenquist
My Pentax strap is stil in the box, and there it will stay.  I immediately 
attached the Tamarac strap that I took off of the D I sold. It has a nice 
padded area for the neck, and it can be detached easily when the camera is used 
ona tripod.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?
 
  How's the K10 strap?
 
 
 Identical to the K100 strap. It just says PENTAX in bright red letters, no
 pockets...
 
 Actually, now that I look at it side by side, it's the same as the *ist D
 strap, too. Just doesn't say ist D (obviously) and the white letters are
 now red and in a slightly different font. Looks a bit sexier to me.
 
 As an aside, I find it a little comical that the buckles on all three
 camera straps still have the little point on them that used to be used for
 pushing those little buttons on film cameras (midroll rewind, etc)... but
 now they serve no purpose besides poking people who are in the way of your
 photo. I guess they did that so that they could say that there cameras AND
 straps are backwards compatible will previous equipment. go pentax! They
 think of everything g
 
 
 - jerome
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: burning bright

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick Genovese
I like the mood it conveys ... would make a nice greeting card
photo... All it needs is a good caption.

Regards

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Re: Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread DagT
 Fra: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 12/05/06 9:02 AM, Digital Image Studio, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well let's face it, they aren't a premium photographic company stock
  in the eyes of the vast majority of commercial analysts, there has to
  be a reason for this, poor management come to mind?
 
 When underdog did a good trick, don't you admit it, forget his/her past
 poor behaviour and give him a treat? :-).
 
I think it's nice.  For years I have been an accepted outsider in the Norwegian 
forum at www.foto.no as I was the only one who admitted that i used Pentax.  
Today someone wrote that I was beginning to be main stream as a number of 
people has reported that they have got their K10D's.  I'm not alone anymore, 
and the outsider role is transferred to teh Sony and Olympus users .-)

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Re: OT: Steam Powered

2006-12-05 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:
 
 
SJ wrote:

there are a couple of 'heritage' tracks (mostly to hill stations) in
india which still use steam (mostly for tourism these days) but until
very recently we had a lot of steam locomotives running around. 

you might find this interesting: 

http://www.irfca.org/faq/faq-steam.html

regards, subash

India did, and so did the Chinese, who only dieselized in the last 5-10 
years. Some rather interesting big steam designs over there as well.
 
 
 My sentimental favorite steam line runs to my hometown - or the closest 
 thing I have to a hometown, given how much my family has moved around - 
 in Devon: The Paignton and Dartmouth Steam Railway, which runs between 
 Paignton and Kingswear, where we lived when I was young. It even has a 
 Wkikpedia entry now:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paignton_and_Dartmouth_Steam_Railway
 but better photos here:
 http://www.steampics.com/html/pdr.html
 
 I have a shot of one of the engines somewhere that I've posted on line 
 a couple of times. I'll have to dig it up again.
 
 

My personal favourite is the Kettle Valley Steam Train, which runs on a 16 km 
segment (the only remaining tracks) of the Kettle Valley RR north-west of 
Penticton BC. Sadly, the tracks are gone east of Penticton through the Carmi 
Sub, which was one of the most interesting pieces of standard gauge railroad in 
North America, having grades and curves worthy of a Colorado Narrow Gauge RR.

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Like the mirror boxes in the *ist-D that apparently came from the MZ/ZX 
series of cameras they bought lots of the buckles and have to use them up.

Jerome Reyes wrote:
 Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?

 How's the K10 strap?
 


 Identical to the K100 strap. It just says PENTAX in bright red letters, no
 pockets...

 Actually, now that I look at it side by side, it's the same as the *ist D
 strap, too. Just doesn't say ist D (obviously) and the white letters are
 now red and in a slightly different font. Looks a bit sexier to me.

 As an aside, I find it a little comical that the buckles on all three
 camera straps still have the little point on them that used to be used for
 pushing those little buttons on film cameras (midroll rewind, etc)... but
 now they serve no purpose besides poking people who are in the way of your
 photo. I guess they did that so that they could say that there cameras AND
 straps are backwards compatible will previous equipment. go pentax! They
 think of everything g


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PESO: Deskwork

2006-12-05 Thread cbwaters
This little guy is ALWAYS working here on my desk.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/photo/deskwork.jpg

*ist D @ 3200 for whatever reason... I'm sure I didn't mean to set the 
camera up that way... but eh, whatever.

CW 


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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread cbwaters
I have one of those on my MZ-5n and like it very much.
I'd like to have the little pockets for the remote and the finder cap 
though.
CW

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Subject: Re: K10 strap?


 My Pentax strap is stil in the box, and there it will stay.  I immediately 
 attached the Tamarac strap that I took off of the D I sold. It has a nice 
 padded area for the neck, and it can be detached easily when the camera is 
 used ona tripod.
 Paul
 -- Original message --
 From: Jerome Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?
 
  How's the K10 strap?


 Identical to the K100 strap. It just says PENTAX in bright red letters, 
 no
 pockets...

 Actually, now that I look at it side by side, it's the same as the *ist D
 strap, too. Just doesn't say ist D (obviously) and the white letters 
 are
 now red and in a slightly different font. Looks a bit sexier to me.

 As an aside, I find it a little comical that the buckles on all three
 camera straps still have the little point on them that used to be used 
 for
 pushing those little buttons on film cameras (midroll rewind, etc)... but
 now they serve no purpose besides poking people who are in the way of 
 your
 photo. I guess they did that so that they could say that there cameras 
 AND
 straps are backwards compatible will previous equipment. go pentax! They
 think of everything g


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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick Genovese
The feeling that I get is that pentax got caught out by the digital
revolution.  They lagged behind technologically and realised that
unless they come back with a splash they will die.

Despite all this I beleive that their conservative approach has proven
to be a wise one. for example never releasing the MZ-D --- the
panasonic sensor it was supposed to use is what killed Contax.

The *ist series while being good cameras in their own right seemed
behind the times.  Pentax realised that and have come up with 2 gems
the K100 and the K10.

They are also showing that their innovative spirit is alive and well.
I guess it takes time to refocus your efforts and transform but it
looks like they got the K10D just right for its place in the market.
Ie the right camera with the right features at the right price and
most importantly at the right time.

In reality with any product launch you only know whether you've really
hit the mark when the orders start coming in.  The fact that they are
flooded with orders is a very postitive thing provided that they deal
with it in sensible manner.

I beleive that the next step would be to consolidate their product
lineup with lenses accessories and eventually a top of the line
flagship body that would appeal to pros. New pros are coming onto the
photography market every day and offering them a good value
proposition is a sensible way to get into the pro market.

Apologies for the diatribe but that's my 2c worth..

Regards

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread Mark Roberts
When I got the ist-D I also got an MZ-S strap for it. It has built-in 
pockets which can hold the eyepiece blind (which I never use - that's 
what manual exposure is for) and the infrared remote control. Very 
handy. In fact, the pockets in the MZ-S strap will also hold a spare CD 
card. (About the only good thing I have to say about SD cards.)

I'll have to see about getting an MZ-S strap for my K10D.


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Re: Another interview articles

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Patrick Genovese wrote:

 Despite all this I beleive that their conservative approach has proven
 to be a wise one. for example never releasing the MZ-D --- the
 panasonic sensor it was supposed to use is what killed Contax.

Philips (Dalsa) sensor.

 I beleive that the next step would be to consolidate their product
 lineup with lenses accessories

I think they have acknowledge the lens-line gaps and are working on 
it.

Rob, just like with my mortgage, I prefer to buy products rather than 
stock.

Kostas


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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
 You don't need that.  The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything 
 that you can set the aperture on and that will fire them.  They have 
 a built-in sensor to tell them when to quench.  Probably others in 
 that series, too, like the 200 and 160.

There's life in the AF280T yet then, how long has it been going since 1981, 
I saw one not long ago NOS in a camera shop!

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Re: K10 strap?

2006-12-05 Thread Adam Maas
cbwaters wrote:
 Remember when the *ist D came out how everybody HATED the strap?  
 
 How's the K10 strap?
 
 CW
 
 

I frikkin love the *istD strap. It was probably the first thing I noticed after 
buying it. And the K100D strap is very similar (Different embroidering).

I'm seriously tempted to replace all my straps with Pentax straps unless I can 
find a cheaper but identical one. The suede backing is a real step above the 
other similar straps I've run across and their horrid non-skid backing.

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Re: PESO: Deskwork

2006-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The slightly noisy rendition adds to the interest.

cbwaters wrote:
 This little guy is ALWAYS working here on my desk.
 http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/photo/deskwork.jpg

 *ist D @ 3200 for whatever reason... I'm sure I didn't mean to set the 
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Re: Dec 16 PDML in DC?

2006-12-05 Thread Christian
Stan Halpin wrote:
 Mike, Scott, Christian (?): Time to be thinking about details of 
 when/where on Saturday 16 Dec. I have the full day, but no car, so would 
 prefer a start point not too far from a Metro stop. I'll be home in KC 
 this weekend, need to be thinking about what lens kit I should bring 
 back for the 16th.
 
 Christian, do you still have  list of other DC-area PDMLers? Including 
 those who may be dormant/off the list now?
 
 Anybody else interested?
 

Hey guys;

The wife and I are actually going to the AOL Holiday party on the 16th, 
so, unfortunately a PDML outing is, well, out

I've copied the other DC regulars like Stephen Moore and TV. There is at 
least one other but I can't find his email address (dammit).

Have fun...  sorry to miss it.


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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Thibouille
A 280T should work fine in analog TTL mode as well as program auto mode.


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Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread pnstenquist
I know you can still buy the AF400T new at BH. I'm not sure about the 280.
Paul
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  that series, too, like the 200 and 160.
 
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Re: PESO: burning bright

2006-12-05 Thread SJ
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:21:14 +0100
Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like the mood it conveys ... would make a nice greeting card
 photo... All it needs is a good caption.


hi patrick,

thanks a ton for looking. ...and here's to a fruitful trip to rome :)

regards, subash

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RE: Telephoto...?

2006-12-05 Thread Steve Desjardins
Doug,

I have the 300 F4 SMC (77) that I bought a few years ago, but I can't
find/remember a digital photo I took with it.  I don't use it a lot
since it is pretty heavy.  If you don't mind waiting a few days, I'll
take a few shots on a tripod with the DS and send them to you.  Do you
have any favorite subjects (besides the neighbors' windows)?  g  


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 Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/4/2006 11:53 AM

A very average lens, nice size though, easy to handle.  Nice bokeh,
iirc. 
Built-in hood is small and a bit of a problem.  Use a Takumar hood from
a
135mm/3.5 lens for much better results.

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