PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread John Coyle
I think I really like Lightroom for basic editing - this is an old shot 
which has scrubbed up very well!

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PESO002.html

Text and tech stuff on the page.

Comments welcome, a usual

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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, you're much more capable in post-processing than I am, John. I 
quite like what you've done though of course I would have written a 
different text ;-).

Boris

John Celio wrote:
 I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with FA
 80-320 lens.

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1

 Whoa!  That's a fantastic shot!  I can imagine it up on the wall of a
 downtown business, or maybe in an advertisement of some sort.
 
 Here's what I whipped up, using Boris' pic as inspiration.  Boris, if you 
 don't like your image used in this way, I'll take it down right quick.  I 
 hope you find it funny, though. :)
 
 http://www.neovenator.com/special/boris-PESO-med-ad.jpg
 
 John
 
 P.S.: I still think it's a fantastic shot, it just inspired me a little. ;)
 
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Re: PESO: Female Cormorant

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
 Heya John,
 
 I echo what Paul said: it's a bit on the hot side, needs a bit 
 darker  rendering. Good shot otherwise!

Thanks Godfrey, needs a little work then. I think my K10D is overexposing 
slightly, perhaps 1/3 of a stop, but the processing was too hot. I was trying 
to avoid darkening the image by much so as not to make the noise too obvious.

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Re: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
Har!

Nice one John.

Cheers,

Dave

BTW 462kb for an image that size is a bit big.

On 2/12/07, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I really like Lightroom for basic editing - this is an old shot
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 http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PESO002.html

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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
On 2/12/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with FA
  80-320 lens.
 
  http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1
 
 
  Whoa!  That's a fantastic shot!  I can imagine it up on the wall of a
  downtown business, or maybe in an advertisement of some sort.

 Here's what I whipped up, using Boris' pic as inspiration.  Boris, if you
 don't like your image used in this way, I'll take it down right quick.  I
 hope you find it funny, though. :)

 http://www.neovenator.com/special/boris-PESO-med-ad.jpg

 John

LOL

Excellent shot Boris, truly Theriaultian.

That was a complement BTW :-)

Cheers

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Re: My (underestimated) old friends

2007-02-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Brian Walters wrote:

 I've seen good Z20's go for as little as $50 while the much less 
 capable MZ-50 seems to have no trouble in fetching $100 or more.

That's because the MZ-50 has a shutter, while the Zs have a vibrator. 
If you are ok with the cripple, the MZ-50 is a fine camera.

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Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-12 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Peter Lacus wrote:

 It is not typical of the era, I am afraid.

 may I ask you why?

It has nice overall rendition, but is fairly unsharp in wide 
apertures.

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Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x-XD2H.jpg
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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good one. The head is sharp enough to make it work. What was the 
shutter speed?
Paul
On Feb 12, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with 
 FA
 80-320 lens.

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1

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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
 I echo what Paul said: it's a bit on the hot side, needs a bit 
 darker  rendering. Good shot otherwise!
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Feb 11, 2007, at 12:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  I like this as well. Again, I didn't see the earlier version.
  Excellent detail. I might reduce overall brightness a small amount
  and perhaps burn in the light parts of the head. I don't think the
  highlights on the head are the result of oversharpening. If it was
  oversharpened, we'd be seeing artifacts in other areas.


I went back to the original RAW capture and re-rendered, this one seems 
better, the highlights don't appear blown out. I'm looking mainly at the 
white on the head and the detail on the left of the log:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064

Larger image:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064size=lg


I've also rendered another one using the same basic settings:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820

Larger image:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820size=lg

Again comments and critique appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: My (underestimated) old friends

2007-02-12 Thread Brian Walters
Well, I'm sure the MZ50 is a fine camera but I wouldn't trade my Z20 for one, 
vibrator or not :-).


Cheers

Brian

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  I've seen good Z20's go for as little as $50 while the much less
 
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 That's because the MZ-50 has a shutter, while the Zs have a
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Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-12 Thread Thibouille
Unsharp indeed but is very usable on my KX with BW like TriX if
stopped down a bit. Even wide open it has provided quite nice pics.
I didn't have time to test extensively on my D and even less so on my
K10D. I will if possible.

The utility of this lens is that on a K-line body it gives exactly in
the viewfinder the same image as your eyes so it is very easy to use:
one eye in the viewfinder, the other one checking what's happening
around.

2007/2/12, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Peter Lacus wrote:

  It is not typical of the era, I am afraid.
 
  may I ask you why?

 It has nice overall rendition, but is fairly unsharp in wide
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More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Photoshop_LR/01/index.html


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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
They're both a little too blue/cool IMO. With a levels adjustment
layer and individually working on the R,G  B channels I came up with
this (I hope you don't mind):

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/5582064-md_DSv.jpg

I also ran it through PS CS2's reduce noise filter  then smart
sharpened it some.

I'm not saying its better, it's just the rendering I like. :-)

Cheers,

Dave




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 I went back to the original RAW capture and re-rendered, this one seems
 better, the highlights don't appear blown out. I'm looking mainly at the
 white on the head and the detail on the left of the log:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064

 Larger image:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064size=lg


 I've also rendered another one using the same basic settings:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820

 Larger image:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820size=lg

 Again comments and critique appreciated.

 Regards,

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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread keith_w
Roman wrote:
 http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x-XD2H.jpg
 sunny beach with rocks...

Nice and crisp-looking! Color is perfect for the scenery!

Well done.

Polarized?

Which camera/lens?

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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Roman,
Rather nice shot with lots of beach feel to it.
I especially like the way the water works into it.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Today's heresy

2007-02-12 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
 From Cotty:
 I'm here.
 
 Pentax K register distance is 45.46mm
 Canon FD register distance is 42mm
 
 This means that to alter an FD lens to fit a K mount  camera (without
 using an adapter containing an optical element to correct for infinity
 focus) you would have to remove over 3 and a half mil from the back of
 the FD lens flange. If you're going to use a 42mm threaded adapter, then
 add the thickness of the adapter to that. Might be problems in that
 there's not enough room on the back of the FD lens before problems start
 in terms of aperture ring etc. You may or may not have problems with the
 rear element of the lens not clearing the mirror. I don't have an FD to
 look at, but where there's a will, there's a way.
 
 I have some links on the bottom of this page that might be of further
 interest:
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/details.htmlhttp://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/details.html
 
 It's a big job but as an engineering exercise, viable, if expensive. Of
 course, as a hobbyist, cost is not justifiable so go to it!


I had a mode in mind that's more basic and only a trade-off in effort.
How if I just modify the stops inside the lens mechanism and move the 
glass back.
The scale isn't really important.
And after all, it's only a Canon lens.  :)



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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2  K100D

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=22023704

And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is

1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
2. MENU - MENU - INFO

Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
the D's menu.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

2007-02-12 Thread Cory Papenfuss
 There are old strings in the frimware itselfand in the DSP output.
 Both show a 50/3200iso capability (I mean strings were thought for). I
 think they simply disabled 50/3200 iso. We/Pentax may unlock them.

 Any idea of the CPU/DSP architecture? ARM/Mips? Other one?

I wasn't able to find any obvious indicators for the K10D.  The 
firmware for my -DS has this in it:

Softune REALOS/FR is Realtime OS for FR Family, based on micro-ITRON 
COPYRIGHT(C) FUJITSU LIMITED 1994-1999

Seems unlikely that they'd switch CPUs unless they had to for 
performance or cost reasons.

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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Boris Liberman wrote:

I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with 
FA 
80-320 lens.

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1

Frank, is that you? What have you done with Boris?
;-)

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

2007-02-12 Thread Cory Papenfuss
 Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2  K100D

 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=22023704

 And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is

 1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
 2. MENU - MENU - INFO

 Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
 the D's menu.

Neato... of course I don't have my -DS with me at the moment. 
Anyone know what options are tweakable on a -DS?  Not necessarily planning 
on touching anything, but it'd be good to know...

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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
 They're both a little too blue/cool IMO. With a levels adjustment
 layer and individually working on the R,G  B channels I came up with
 this (I hope you don't mind):
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/5582064-md_DSv.jpg


Not at all, it looks better IMO
 
 I also ran it through PS CS2's reduce noise filter  then smart
 sharpened it some.
 
 I'm not saying its better, it's just the rendering I like. :-)
 
 Cheers,
 
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I'm in need of more experience in post processing I think 8)


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OT Printer hiccups

2007-02-12 Thread Bill Owens
I installed our Brother 420CN all in one printer over the weekend to use in
conjunction with my Epson 1270.  Whenever I send a command to the 420, it
doesn't print until I reboot the computer, then prints fine.  I have it set
as the default printer and the 1270 isn't even plugged in at the present
time.

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Re: Three new Pentax DA star lenses: any knowledge?

2007-02-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman 
Subject: Re: Three new Pentax DA star lenses: any knowledge?


 Noble Sir William, is there a mighty Pentax sword (ergh, a lens) that 
 you do not have or did not have?


There's a few.

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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman
Subject: Running in the rain...


I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with FA
 80-320 lens.

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1


It has the feel of a classic photograph.
Now I will have to go back to my library and figure out whos work it reminds 
me of.
Perhaps Cartier-Bresson.

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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Jack Davis
Striking light and detail! What equipment?
Personally, I feel that the colors are pumped to the point of being a
distraction, but would certainly find their market.
Well seen.

Jack

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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

You going to take my suggestion and do a video of the weekend for 
British Telly?

Nope.

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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:06 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

 I went back to the original RAW capture and re-rendered, this one  
 seems
 better, the highlights don't appear blown out. I'm looking mainly  
 at the
 white on the head and the detail on the left of the log:
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064
 Larger image:
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064size=lg

 I've also rendered another one using the same basic settings:
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820
 Larger image:
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820size=lg
 Again comments and critique appreciated.

Both pretty nice ... and Dave's tweaking also works well. That's a  
pretty sharp image for 1/100 sec with a 300mm lens ...

Godfrey

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Re: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, Bill, you produced two very flattering compliments to my work in
a row... I am afraid I won't be able to keep up the pace...

Thanks!

On 2/12/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 From: Boris Liberman
 Subject: Running in the rain...


 I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with FA
  80-320 lens.
 
  http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1
 

 It has the feel of a classic photograph.
 Now I will have to go back to my library and figure out whos work it reminds
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 Perhaps Cartier-Bresson.

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Re: Three new Pentax DA star lenses: any knowledge?

2007-02-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Please name each of them with complete designation and rank ;-).

On 2/12/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  Noble Sir William, is there a mighty Pentax sword (ergh, a lens) that
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 There's a few.

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Re: Today's heresy

2007-02-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/2/07, Collin R Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:

I had a mode in mind that's more basic and only a trade-off in effort.
How if I just modify the stops inside the lens mechanism and move the 
glass back.

That would work - precision job though!

The scale isn't really important.
And after all, it's only a Canon lens.  :

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OT: Great Headlines

2007-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Crack Found on Governor's Daughter

Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says

Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers

Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?

Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over

Miners Refuse to Work after Death

Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant

War Dims Hope for Peace

If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last Awhile

Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures

Couple Slain; PoliceSuspect Homicide

Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges

Man Struck By Lightning: Faces Battery Charge

New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group

Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft

Kids Make Nutritious Snacks

Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half

Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors

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Re: Vista and Microsoft Photo Info have problems with metadata ?

2007-02-12 Thread Norm Baugher
I hear that the new Vista blue screen of death graphics are greatly 
improved.
Norm

Cotty wrote:
 On 11/2/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 This is much more useful than the general onslaught of knee jerk Microsoft 
 bashing that serves no purpose other than to annoy people who are using the 
 product.
 

 I don't have a problem with that.

   


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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Where is this beach located?

On 2/12/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: PESO: Ivy and Ice

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/11/2007 1:38:00 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
K10D, DA 50-200, F7.1,  1/250th, ISO 320, 73mm, TAv  mode:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5583526size=lg

=
Nice  one, Paul. Weird and interesting shot -- unusual.

Poor ivy.  :-(

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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/12/2007 2:14:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x-XD2H.jpg
sunny beach with  rocks...
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===
Very nice. Like it. But it does  look over sharpened to me, I'd tone it down 
just a tad.

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Re: PESO: Ivy and Ice

2007-02-12 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Marnie. Actually, being encased in ice will protect the ivy from wind 
burn and subzero temperatures. It stays right at 32 degrees. When there's a 
severe frost, farmers sometimes spray water on their crops. Having them ice 
over is better than exposing them to the elements..
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Re: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread cbwaters
I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is different in the 
beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be learning 
stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the beta?

CW
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Enablement

2007-02-12 Thread Micah B. Kleit
Just got my DA 12-24 f/4 and a second AF360 flash, along with 4gb  
SDHC card.  I should have those cheap wireless slave triggers by the  
end of the week, and I'll report on my experience.  I'm really  
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SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
 What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D!
Regards
Jens

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 I  want to add, that it have always annoyed me a little, that the D has a
 tendency of colouring overexposed areas redish - rendering very bright
parts
 with a reddish cast. That's one of the reasons I had a tendency of
 deliberately underexposing, to totally avoid over exposed parts of the
 images. Thje K10D does not add a reddish cast to the very bright parts.
 My conclusion is that the image quality of K10D images are in fact
superior,
 compared to the quality of a similar *ist D image.

Lots of issues I had with the *ist D rendering went away after I
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Re: Feb 12th Astro Challenge

2007-02-12 Thread John Celio
 Well, I was going to set my alarm and head up to an east facing lookout 
 not far from here - but, it started raining on Saturday and hasn't stopped 
 since (not that I'm complaining, mind you)


Yeah, it's cloudy here too, though no rain today.

*sigh*  Maybe next time.  Anyone have any good night sky images in mind for 
the near future?

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SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Funny, you shoud say that JCO'C. I have been thingking the same since I got
the K10D. The redish cast in the (over) exposed areas have alwasy sbeen a
PITA to me:-)
But unlike the K10D, ito's not possible to fine tune the WB.

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color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue.
jco

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 I  want to add, that it have always annoyed me a little, that the D
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 tendency of deliberately underexposing, to totally avoid over exposed
 parts of the images. Thje K10D does not add a reddish cast to the very

 bright parts. My conclusion is that the image quality of K10D images
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Lots of issues I had with the *ist D rendering went away after I
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Re: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Adam Maas
It's fairly irrelevant unless you plan on trying the beta in the next 
two weeks.

The beta's expire on Feb 27.

-Adam


cbwaters wrote:
 I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is different in the 
 beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be learning 
 stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the beta?
 
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PESO - El Capitan (#1)

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
On the way to my SW trip, I spent about two days  in Yosemite. I discovered 
shooting it is rather difficult, as the best light is  early morning and late 
afternoon. Not being an early morning person, my window  of opportunity was 
pretty limited. In other words, two days was not enough --  some rocks are best 
late day and you can't be in all the places to shoot all  those rocks at the 
same time late day. Also I hadn't been there in 30 years and  spent a lot of 
time just revisiting things, and, well, I am also no  AA.

But enough caveats -- I rather like some of the straight on El  Capitan 
photos I got. Needless to say I shot it a lot, and this is only  one...

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/elcapitan1.htm

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Re: OT: Great Headlines

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Sorenson
*Tragedy in Eastern Canada*

Canada's worst air disaster occurred earlier today when a Cessna 152, a 
small two-seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early this morning in 
central Newfoundland.

Newfie search and rescue workers have recovered 826 bodies so far and 
expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening.

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Crack Found on Governor's Daughter
 
 Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says
 
 Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
 
 Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
 
 Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over
 
 Miners Refuse to Work after Death
 
 Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
 
 War Dims Hope for Peace
 
 If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last Awhile
 
 Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures
 
 Couple Slain; PoliceSuspect Homicide
 
 Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges
 
 Man Struck By Lightning: Faces Battery Charge
 
 New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
 
 Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft
 
 Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
 
 Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half
 
 Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors
 
 And the winner is
 
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Re: PESO (s) New BW Conversions

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 11:38:45 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I haven't had much  inspiration taking new photos lately so I decided to 
rework a few BW  conversions that I posted in the past.  So here they 
are the  Connecticut Zen series (I - IV), Connecticut Zen V doesn't count 
it was in  color.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzen1%5Bpt%5D.html
and  the  original
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_connzen1.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzen2%5Bpt%5D.html
and  the  original
http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_connzen2.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzen3%5Bpt%5D.html
and  the  original
http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_connzen3.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_connzen4%5Bpt%5D.html
and  the  original
http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_connzen4.html

Notes:
The  conversion process I followed was to make the best color image 
possible,  then convert to BW using the Fotomatic BW+ filter with the  
appropriate color filter.  I then added a grain layer then adjusted  
the brightness and contrast using curves adjustment layers.  It think  
the new conversions worked out much better than the previous versions,  
all except Connecticut Zen IV was a marked improvement.

As usual  comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


==
Nice.  I hadn't seen the bird one before, nice shot. I really like it.

My eyes  are not adjusted to view tonal variations as much as some people's 
eyes are. :-)  So in some cases I can't see a big difference, but in some I do. 
Especially the  last one. 

Very, very nice series.

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PESO - El Capitan (#1)

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
On the way to my SW trip, I spent about two days  in Yosemite. I discovered 
shooting it is rather difficult, as the best light is  early morning and late 
afternoon. Not being an early morning person, my window  of opportunity was 
pretty limited. In other words, two days was not enough --  some rocks are best 
late day and you can't be in all the places to shoot all  those rocks at the 
same time late day. Also I hadn't been there in 30 years and  spent a lot of 
time just revisiting things, and, well, I am also no  AA.

But enough caveats -- I rather like some of the straight on El  Capitan 
photos I got. Needless to say I shot it a lot, and this is only  one...

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/elcapitan1.htm

Comments,  welcome.

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Re: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread ann sanfedele
Well, I'm glad I hopped back on list today to see this --

I love it, John (whadda shock, eh?)

Kids - I've been away from the list for a number of reasons ... some 
lovely some difficult.

On the lovely side, The Scrabble tournament I did the photos from the 
old days work was held this
past weekend.  My exhibit got me some nice kudos and I also won $100 
coming in second
in my division in the tourney and a beautiful red apple trophy made of 
marble.

I'll post later about something I did with the photos to display them 
that might be of interest to
you guys... it was an interesting problem I solved somewhat 
satisfactorily but it could be better.

forgive me if in the last week or two someone has written something they 
wanted me to respond too -
I'm not ignoring you -- I just have been overwhelmed with real life stuff.

ann

John Coyle wrote:

I think I really like Lightroom for basic editing - this is an old shot 
which has scrubbed up very well!

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PESO002.html

Text and tech stuff on the page.

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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/10/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just ordered the SCSI/Firewire adapter mentioned a few days ago. If
 Scott Loveless brings his BW chemistry and developing tanks, I'll
 bring my Minolta Scan Multi II and we'll be in business!

I'll bring my Holga. :-)

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Re: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
beta to 1.0 differences:
   http://lightroom-news.com/2007/02/03/from-beta-41-to-version-1/

other good stuff:
   http://lightroom-news.com/
   http://www.seanmcfoto.com/lightroom/

The beta will expire on Feb 28. Release 1.0 will be downloadable  
starting six days from now. I would recommend spending time learning  
the Release and forget about the beta at this point, if you haven't  
been using it already. In six days you'll be able to download an eval  
copy of the real thing and learn it instead.

Godfrey


On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:41 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is  
 different in the
 beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be  
 learning
 stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the  
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Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Adobe Camera Raw.

Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations for  
the *ist DS and K10D that people have posted here and elsewhere ...  
and all of them produced results as default starting points for color  
balance that were farther off the mark than just opening the DNG file  
and setting white balance with the eyedropper tool. Lightroom's white  
balance adjustment works even better.

I don't think that calibration is a waste of time, however. I just  
haven't found anyone's calibration that works better than what is  
offered as a default. It's so easy to adjust color balances when  
dealing with RAW format data I don't know why there's so much fuss  
about it.

G

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  What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep  
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OT - Calendars

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thought I'd advise the list of a great source for custom calendars. 
www.vistaprint.com
My son was looking for a business give away  found this outfit. Just got 
one of the calendars  all I can say is WOW. Totally professional @ $6.99 
each with lower costs @ higher volumes.

The desk calendar is 8.27 X 3.74 printed on 80 lb Premium Paper Stock with 
a glossy finish  wire bound. Images come out @ 3.7X2.5. The color 
compares very well to what I printed from the same files.

I've been doing my own calendars using blanks from Photographer's Edge  
printing my own 4X6 prints on my Epson Stylus Photo printer - runs me 
about $11.50/each.

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Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread William Robb

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Subject: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image 
quality?)


 What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist 
 D!

Adobe Camera RAW.

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Re: Feb 12th Astro Challenge

2007-02-12 Thread David J Brooks
Calling for snow this afternoon and right through till Tuesday
afternoon sometime

Dave

On 2/12/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, I was going to set my alarm and head up to an east facing lookout
  not far from here - but, it started raining on Saturday and hasn't stopped
  since (not that I'm complaining, mind you)
 

 Yeah, it's cloudy here too, though no rain today.

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Re: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread David J Brooks
Nice one.

The contrast between ocean, beach and sky is good.

Good rock details to

Dave

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Tom C
It displays better against a grey background, IMO...

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182

Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this 
view.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg

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PESO: Fence line revisited

2007-02-12 Thread Sandra Hermann
Last year, About this time, I took a picture of an old fence line on my 
property.  I really liked it in some ways and disliked it in others.  I got 
a few comments about it.  I took it again Sat.  I like it better this time.  
I think it still has some faults.   I would like some comments on it if 
anyone has the time.  This one was taken with my K10d.  I think the coloring 
is much better.
I am also in the process of uploading some cemetary pictures on my blog if 
you are interested it is at http://blubicon.blogspot.com/
thank you
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RE: Paw Closed for the season

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
The title made me think; no more paws from Dave for a while. Bummer.
While looking at the photo I realised I was wrong.

It did not give me much, besides this. Sorry.


Tim
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http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582000

Played hooky on Thursday. Wondered around parts of the Tent canal
systemafter a snow fall. Pretty deep snow and i forgot my snow pants,
so i shot a few from the road.

This one seems to fit the title.

K10D, 16-45 F4, proccessed in Lightroom Beta and saved for web.

Did this on the laptop , so it might be off a tad.

Comments welcome.

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PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Tom C
Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this 
view.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg

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RE: PESO - Through the trees...

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I thought I'd give you a puzzle. Puzzles are educating ;-)

She won the Nobel peace price in 2005. She is famous for her tree planting
project in Sahara. 

BTW. The motif felt very familiar. Have I been there?


Tim
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You did not know what???

Boris

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Very well done Boris (and Tamron) I tend to agree with those who says this
 is your best shot.
 
 I did not know that Wangari Muta Maathai had worked in Israel ;-)
 
 
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RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Its always possible to fine tune the highlights color
(color correct) any image if you really have to in photoshop
using the color correction adjustments, set on hightlights.
jco

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Funny, you shoud say that JCO'C. I have been thingking the same since I
got the K10D. The redish cast in the (over) exposed areas have alwasy
sbeen a PITA to me:-) But unlike the K10D, ito's not possible to fine
tune the WB.

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color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue.
jco

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 I  want to add, that it have always annoyed me a little, that the D 
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 bright parts with a reddish cast. That's one of the reasons I had a 
 tendency of deliberately underexposing, to totally avoid over exposed 
 parts of the images. Thje K10D does not add a reddish cast to the very

 bright parts. My conclusion is that the image quality of K10D images 
 are in fact superior, compared to the quality of a similar *ist D 
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Lots of issues I had with the *ist D rendering went away after I
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RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've noticed this with my DS too. It is a real PITA in difficult light (read
concert shooting). If I don't have time to do proper spot metering I tend to
end up with reddish skin cast that is impossible to get rid of in
processing. I've blown a few gigs doing this.


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PPS:
I  have added a little test to my Flickr pages as well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594529582033/

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William, PauI, Godfrey, Rob, Peter, David, John ...

I don't know what the  went wrong yesterday, testing exposure of the
K10D.
Perhaps the FA* 2.8/80-200mm is not working right with the K10D?
Perhaps changing leses many times, metering by manually by Green Button etc.
did confuse the cameras or me, or the light perhaps changed betewwn
switching camera bodies ? I have no idea.

Anyway, today I did some new test shots - comparing the K10D and the *ist D,
using two samples of the same Pentax lens:
The old SMC Pentax-F 4-5.6 35-80mm.

So, I put one of these lenses on both cameras and did a few test shots. I
shot the same scenery twice -using the same shutterspeed, same settings
(multi-segnment, WB, contrast, sharpness, saturation, ISO 200, RAW).

And guess what? The results are quite surpirsing.
It seems to me that the K10D in fact does a better job, dealing with
contrast.
The K10D shots are consistantly the most pleasing shots, despite of the dark
scenery/bright sky. Such conditions are very common in our (northern) parts
of the world (low sun). Very often our contrasty environment requires manual
exposure corrections. It seems the K10D handeled the situation quite well.
Much better than the *ist D.
I am pleasantly surprised!

Judge for your selves. What do you think?

http://www.jensbladt.dk/Test/K10D-vs-istD/K10D-test-album.html

Thanks for looking - comments area welcome.

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No
I've done this right a 1000 times. And the strategy for a (too) bright sky
sky IS the same as for a backlit scenry.
And - so why does the *ist D do the exact scenery right (not over
compensating)?
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 Regarding exposure, I'll do som emore test tomorrow, evenly lit scenes
 (walls, grey card etc.) as well ad contraty ones, im order tio figure out
 if
 the meter is off or if the matrix metering is over reacting. Surely I
 can't
 live with this.

 When photographing a a scenery with a very bright sky (very common in the
 northern parts og the world) I must dial in MINUS CORRECTION, when using
 the
 K10D. This is the exact opposite of what I have done for the last 30
 years!
 I could never get used to this. My K10D requires reversed backlight
 compensation. Surely that can't be right!


It soulds to me like the metering is compensating the sky as if it was a
backlit scene (overexposing to ensure sufficient exposure to the subject).
This is what we call subject failure in the industry.
I think you will find the meter is behaving normally, and that you will need
to adjust your metering strategy for this scene type.

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RE: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
If the camera can't read thje lens, the camera will ask you to dial in
the correct focal length.
This menu can't be accessed maually, says the instruction book, I believe.
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Emne: The need to manually set SR


I'm sure I've asked this before, but can't remember the outcomehas
anyone figured how to set SR manually with a PKAF lens set at the 'A'
psition
on the K10D. I'd like to be able to mount the 300/4 APO with 2x TC and set
SR
to 600mm lens. I've been working my way through the settings but had no luck
yet, can't find anything in the user manual to help.

TIA,

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Re: Three new Pentax DA star lenses: any knowledge?

2007-02-12 Thread Margus Männik
Roman,

well, guys from Nordic Digital (Photopoint)* will tell you exactly the 
same news as anyone in here MINUS rumors. What you wrote, is exactly 
what we all were told at Photokina  2006. Three lenses, will be 
intorduced '03 2007 and later. Want more? Look for a news from Tokina.
 
BR, Margus
*)our local Pentax representative


Roman wrote:

According to the local retailer and local representatives new lenses 
shall be on sale from March 2007, not 2008 or 2020 (I hope).
These will be:

• DA* 16-50 mm F2.8 ED AL [IF]
• DA* 50-135 mm F2.8 ED [IF]
• DA* 60-250 mm F4 ED [IF].

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf

All HSM, and weather/dust resistant, to match K10D designs. Since march 
2007 is right around the corner, I was wondering if some Pentax guys or 
testers had already played with these.

Anyway, I'm not purchasing older 28-105mm lenses in anticipation of 
16-50mm f2.8, or if there will be delay, I'm going to buy Sigma 17-70mm 
f2.8-4.5 in addition to my fisheye 10-17mm and Tamron tele zoom 70-300mm.


  


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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread David J Brooks
On 2/12/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

 You going to take my suggestion and do a video of the weekend for
 British Telly?

 Nope.

 Too much hard work!!

Good, now i don't have to comb my hair ALL weekend long now.

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Re: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/12/2007 9:32:31 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think I really like  Lightroom for basic editing - this is an old shot 
which has scrubbed up  very  well!

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PESO002.html

Text  and tech stuff on the page.

Comments welcome, a  usual

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia  

=
LOL. Didn't see that one before. Good one.

Makes one  wonder what is behind that door, that's for sure.


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PESO: Old fence line revisited (if you get this post twice I am sorry)

2007-02-12 Thread Sandra Hermann
About a year ago, I took pictures of an old fence line.   
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154/display/4819298 and
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154/display/4835920

Sat. I took the advice you all had given me, and went back to revisit the 
old fence line.  I think the lighting was so much better.   I think overall 
I did take a better picture. What do you all think?
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154/display/7948903

I also visited a Veterans Cemetary where my grandfather is.  I posted some 
of the pictures I took there on my blog.   IF you are interested please take 
a look.

http://blubicon.blogspot.com/

If you got this post twice I am sorry.  I posted it early this morning and 
it never showed up in my inbox or my outbox.
Sandy

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Re: PESO - El Capitan (#1)

2007-02-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I really like the lighting in this shot.


Dan M

On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the way to my SW trip, I spent about two days  in Yosemite. I discovered
 shooting it is rather difficult, as the best light is  early morning and late
 afternoon. Not being an early morning person, my window  of opportunity was
 pretty limited. In other words, two days was not enough --  some rocks are 
 best
 late day and you can't be in all the places to shoot all  those rocks at the
 same time late day. Also I hadn't been there in 30 years and  spent a lot of
 time just revisiting things, and, well, I am also no  AA.

 But enough caveats -- I rather like some of the straight on El  Capitan
 photos I got. Needless to say I shot it a lot, and this is only  one...

 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/elcapitan1.htm

 Comments,  welcome.

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RE: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I haven't studied the video in detail yet, but I think it's not that
different. 
They have added a couple of tools, and extended sore function, but I believe
basic import and conversion is very similar. Most of the difference is under
the hood I believe. 

Just my 0,02 Nkr.


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I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is different in the 
beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be learning 
stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the beta?

CW
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 http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Photoshop_LR/01/index.html


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Re: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
ann sanfedele wrote:

Well, I'm glad I hopped back on list today to see this --

You probably missed this one, too:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/aaip.jpg

(AAIP stands for Another Annsan-Inspired Photograph :-P)

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RE: PESO - Through the trees...

2007-02-12 Thread Tom C
Feels very fresh.  Nice job.



Tom C.



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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:05:41 +0200

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16638full=1

I surely like the way Tamron 28-75/2.8 is very resistant to flare ;-).

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Re: Feb 12th Astro Challenge

2007-02-12 Thread Tom C
It was snow last night here.  I'll look again this AM.



Tom C.



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:47:29 -0500

Calling for snow this afternoon and right through till Tuesday
afternoon sometime

Dave

On 2/12/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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lookout
   not far from here - but, it started raining on Saturday and hasn't 
stopped
   since (not that I'm complaining, mind you)
  
 
  Yeah, it's cloudy here too, though no rain today.
 
  *sigh*  Maybe next time.  Anyone have any good night sky images in mind 
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Re: Feb 12th Astro Challenge

2007-02-12 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
John Celio a écrit :
 Well, I was going to set my alarm and head up to an east facing lookout 
 not far from here - but, it started raining on Saturday and hasn't stopped 
 since (not that I'm complaining, mind you)

 

 Yeah, it's cloudy here too, though no rain today.

 *sigh*  Maybe next time.  Anyone have any good night sky images in mind for 
 the near future?

 John
   
It was also cloudy this morning, but It's clear now (although the moon 
is not as close to Jupiter and Antares anymore) and I think I'll try it 
tomorrow morning (bad idea since tomorrow I'll fly for a business trip).

Next similar event is Feb-19 at sunset: the moon will be *VERY* close to 
Venus right after sunset. Probably more spectacular than my previous 
GESO: Venus will be only 1 moon diameter from the moon.

Patrice

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RE: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Better with one warning to many ;-)


Tim
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Sent: 12. februar 2007 09:17
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Subject: PESO - Another one for Annsan?

I think I really like Lightroom for basic editing - this is an old shot 
which has scrubbed up very well!

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PESO002.html

Text and tech stuff on the page.

Comments welcome, a usual

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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
On 2/13/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/12/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 11/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  You going to take my suggestion and do a video of the weekend for
  British Telly?
 
  Nope.
 
  Too much hard work!!

 Good, now i don't have to comb my hair ALL weekend long now.

 Dave

You could have always shaved it off.

:-)

Cheers,

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RE: Beaches with rocks

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Looks like Praia da Rocha, Algarve, Portugal. Is it?
Nice photograph!
Regards
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Very nice. Like it. But it does  look over sharpened to me, I'd tone it down
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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Norm Baugher
Count me in!
Norm

Mark Roberts wrote:
 I just ordered the SCSI/Firewire adapter mentioned a few days ago. If 
 Scott Loveless brings his BW chemistry and developing tanks, I'll 
 bring my Minolta Scan Multi II and we'll be in business!

 And even if it works out that I can't bring the scanner to GFM - if I'm 
 taking my motorcycle for the trip, for example - I'll still be able to 
 use it here to eliminate the SCSI card from my main computer.
   


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RE: Running in the rain...

2007-02-12 Thread Tom C
I like this.  Nice sense of motion. Skewed angle adds interest.



Tom C.








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I feel like shooting. This is another of my semi-test shots made with FA
80-320 lens.

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16661full=1

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
I really like this one, Tom.  Quite a view you have.

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Monday, February 12, 2007, 11:44:37 AM, you wrote:

TC Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this
TC view.

TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg

TC Tom C.






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RE: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Bill Owens
 I may bring my Kiev 60

Bill

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On 2/10/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just ordered the SCSI/Firewire adapter mentioned a few days ago. If
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I'll bring my Holga. :-)

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Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D!
 Regards

Adobe Camera RAW, the import engine, see the following article on
calibration of ACR for your camera:

http://www.rags-int-inc.com/PhotoTechStuff/AcrCalibration/

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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/2/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Good, now i don't have to comb my hair ALL weekend long now.

You should be so lucky!

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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Dave

Ooops try again!

 They're both a little too blue/cool IMO. With a levels adjustment
 layer and individually working on the R,G  B channels I came up with
 this (I hope you don't mind):
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/5582064-md_DSv.jpg

Took your advice on levels aboard and adjusted a little:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586820

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586922

I think they're getting their IMHO

 I also ran it through PS CS2's reduce noise filter  then smart
 sharpened it some.

I found Noise Ninja produces a better rendering to my eye, just an opinion.
Thanks for the advice and constructive critique.

Best regards,

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RE: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Bob W
I hope you have some of this stuff up for sale in a local gallery -
you could make a nice bit of pocket money. Lovely shot.

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 Subject: PESO - Inversion
 
 Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner 
 and came on this 
 view.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg
 
 Tom C.


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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Adam Maas
Tom C wrote:
 Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this 
 view.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg
 
 Tom C.
 
 

Damn, that's incredible. You're one lucky man, to live where you do.

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RE: OT: Great Headlines

2007-02-12 Thread Bob W
Thick Fog in English Channel. Europe Isolated.

Small Earthquake in Chile. Not Many Dead.

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 *Tragedy in Eastern Canada*
 
 Canada's worst air disaster occurred earlier today when a 
 Cessna 152, a 
 small two-seater plane, crashed into a cemetery early this morning
in 
 central Newfoundland.
 
 Newfie search and rescue workers have recovered 826 bodies so far
and 
 expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening.
 
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
  Crack Found on Governor's Daughter
  
  Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says
  
  Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
  
  Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
  
  Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over
  
  Miners Refuse to Work after Death
  
  Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant
  
  War Dims Hope for Peace
  
  If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last Awhile
  
  Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures
  
  Couple Slain; PoliceSuspect Homicide
  
  Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges
  
  Man Struck By Lightning: Faces Battery Charge
  
  New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group
  
  Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft
  
  Kids Make Nutritious Snacks
  
  Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half
  
  Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors
  
  And the winner is
  
  Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead
  
 
 
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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/12/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/12/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 11/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  You going to take my suggestion and do a video of the weekend for
  British Telly?
 
  Nope.
 
  Too much hard work!!

 Good, now i don't have to comb my hair ALL weekend long now.

Think again, Dave.  I souped an unidentified roll of Tri-X last night.
 Turns out it was from GFM last year.  There are several photos of you
- with and without hat.

See you in June!  g

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Christian
Tom C wrote:
 Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this 
 view.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg
 
 Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/2/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on this 
view.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg


Wow. I like.


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Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Thibouille,

 Unsharp indeed but is very usable on my KX with BW like TriX if
 stopped down a bit. Even wide open it has provided quite nice pics.
 I didn't have time to test extensively on my D and even less so on my
 K10D. I will if possible.

sharpness is rather subjective quality and personally I will gladly 
sacrifice some sharpness for better overall rendering. For example my 
A50/1.4 delivers sharper images (at least at wider apertures) than my 
M50/1.4 yet I much prefer M50/1.4 for its rendering (and partially also 
for the better focusing feel and build quality). Basically what most 
people perceive as sharpness is IMHO just higher local contrast. And 
since everything comes at a price, increasing the sharpness you 
effectively lose smooth tonal gradations.

 The utility of this lens is that on a K-line body it gives exactly in
 the viewfinder the same image as your eyes so it is very easy to use:
 one eye in the viewfinder, the other one checking what's happening
 around.

the same apply to a combination of a MX and M50/1.4 and needless to say, 
I enjoy it immensely.

Cheers,

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RE: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I wasn't aware it where downloadable at the 19. I simply thought that date
was a misunderstanding. This is good news. It will give me a bit more time
getting familiar with the tools before I make my bird slideshow. 

The plan is to launch the show at a meeting at 05.03. 


Tim
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Subject: Re: More Lightroom videos

beta to 1.0 differences:
   http://lightroom-news.com/2007/02/03/from-beta-41-to-version-1/

other good stuff:
   http://lightroom-news.com/
   http://www.seanmcfoto.com/lightroom/

The beta will expire on Feb 28. Release 1.0 will be downloadable  
starting six days from now. I would recommend spending time learning  
the Release and forget about the beta at this point, if you haven't  
been using it already. In six days you'll be able to download an eval  
copy of the real thing and learn it instead.

Godfrey


On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:41 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is  
 different in the
 beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be  
 learning
 stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the  
 beta?

 http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Photoshop_LR/01/ 
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Re: The GFM medium format challenge is ON!

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
On 2/12/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/2/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

 You going to take my suggestion and do a video of the weekend for
 British Telly?

 Nope.

 Too much hard work!!

If you could get Sir David Attenborough to narrate it:

David Attenborough

...and here we see the Pentaxian proudly displaying it's Limited finery...

/David Attenborough

If you could get the BBC involved it could make you a rich man. Then
again it may not.

:-)

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Adult Cormorant (repost)

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Dave

 They're both a little too blue/cool IMO. With a levels adjustment
 layer and individually working on the R,G  B channels I came up with
 this (I hope you don't mind):
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/5582064-md_DSv.jpg

Took your advice on levels aboard and adjusted a little:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5582064

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5586922

I think they're getting their IMHO

 I also ran it through PS CS2's reduce noise filter  then smart
 sharpened it some.

I found Noise Ninja produces a better rendering to my eye, just an opinion.
Thanks for the advice and constructive critique.

Best regards,

John 



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RE: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-12 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Jens

 If the camera can't read thje lens, the camera will ask you to 
 dial in the correct focal length. This menu can't be accessed 
 maually, says the instruction book, I believe. Regards .

As soon as you attach an AF lens the camera sets automatically and the manual 
setting is greyed out in the menu. I've tried the Sigma 300 f/4 with 2x EX 
converter, results seem acceptable even though the camera believes I'm using 
a FA* 300 f/4.5, only time will tell :)

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Re: K10D service menu/focus system adjust

2007-02-12 Thread mike wilson
Works for DL/2 also.

David Savage wrote:

 Also for those with the DL, DS, DS2  K100D
 
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=22023704
 
 And for those with the *istD the power on button sequence is
 
 1. INFO + AE-L + on/off switch
 2. MENU - MENU - INFO
 
 Although there isn't a focus system adjustment or as many options in
 the D's menu.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 On 2/11/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I haven't tried this yet but if you're interested see:

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote:

Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on 
this 
view.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg

You suck. I hate you.
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RE: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I wasn't aware it where downloadable at the 19. I simply thought that date
was a misunderstanding. This is good news. It will give me a bit more time
getting familiar with the tools before I make my bird slideshow. 

The plan is to launch the show at a meeting at 05.03. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: 12. februar 2007 18:18
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Subject: Re: More Lightroom videos

beta to 1.0 differences:
   http://lightroom-news.com/2007/02/03/from-beta-41-to-version-1/

other good stuff:
   http://lightroom-news.com/
   http://www.seanmcfoto.com/lightroom/

The beta will expire on Feb 28. Release 1.0 will be downloadable  
starting six days from now. I would recommend spending time learning  
the Release and forget about the beta at this point, if you haven't  
been using it already. In six days you'll be able to download an eval  
copy of the real thing and learn it instead.

Godfrey


On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:41 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is  
 different in the
 beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be  
 learning
 stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the  
 beta?

 http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Photoshop_LR/01/ 
 index.html


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Re: More Lightroom videos

2007-02-12 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Godfrey,

Good information - thanks for posting it.

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Monday, February 12, 2007, 9:17:42 AM, you wrote:

GD beta to 1.0 differences:
GDhttp://lightroom-news.com/2007/02/03/from-beta-41-to-version-1/

GD other good stuff:
GDhttp://lightroom-news.com/
GDhttp://www.seanmcfoto.com/lightroom/

GD The beta will expire on Feb 28. Release 1.0 will be downloadable  
GD starting six days from now. I would recommend spending time learning
GD the Release and forget about the beta at this point, if you haven't
GD been using it already. In six days you'll be able to download an eval
GD copy of the real thing and learn it instead.

GD Godfrey


GD On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:41 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 I started to watch the video and was wondering how much is  
 different in the
 beta version.  Having not played with the beta yet, would I be  
 learning
 stuff in the videos (geared to V1.0) that won't be correct in the  
 beta?

 http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Photoshop_LR/01/ 
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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C
Subject: PESO - Inversion


 Driving down the dirt road this morning, I rounded a corner and came on 
 this
 view.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182size=lg

Gotta like that. Did you have your 6x7 along too?

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Re: PESO - Inversion

2007-02-12 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Tom,

 It displays better against a grey background, IMO...
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5588182

the background doesn't really matter, but where do you live man? ;-)

Cheers,

Peter

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