Re: Finally back (webhost chronicles)
On 5/3/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: That's it from me, for the moment. Sorry if I bored anyone with my little update. Hi John. Not boring at all :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
On 5/3/08, Owen LaPrath, discombobulated, unleashed: I am kicking myself for ever having wanted a K10. Autofocus was a dissapoinmtent to say the least - no faster than the K100, and actually less reliable! After seeing a few K20d shots from Dubai, my K100d even compares favorably for high ISO shots at iso3200, which I do a lot of. The problem is the very annoying banding - banding looks much worse than grit. My K100d still is just dandy and works like new after about 18 months or so. Then I bought 2 bad K10d in a row from 2 different sellers. The first was DOA. On the second body the Antishake switch simply fell off after 4 months with a stress crack. The switch is a very poor design, as the switch axle is plastic and is attached with a screw into that axle from the inside of the body. It is also just held in place by friction, so after 2 months I started to have problems with it getting a bit flaky in activating antishake. I have read about major injection molding problems with the K10d in several forums by now. There are documented cases of the bottom plates chipping and cracking. And the K20d has the same body hm . Then I saw my lens collection, the fact that the trusty old K100d will not be continued, and snagged the very last K100d Super body in my local store here in Tacoma (Washington State, USA) to have a backup body. That was a lot cheaper than switching systems :) Frankly, I like the colors and exposure of the K100d MUCH better than anything I got out of the K10d. The K100d also doesn't have the banding issues that randomly plagued my K10d. Frankly, with the K20d being the 9th Pentax dSLR model, autofocus, underexposure issues (the Dubai shots are UGLY), high ISO noise, and high ISO banding ought not to be a problem. Yet they are. Basil Fawlty Other than that it's okay though is it? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Here goes, not all these answers are serious ;) Peter On 06/03/2008, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? Not before you have upgraded to the model after next 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] Small used to be a USP for Pentax, replaced by mega megapixels 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? Yes. DNG is the pretence of a plaform free format 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? Don't know. Have you checked the child? 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? I prefer RAW when lighting is tricky. The button comes in handy! 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? The desire by us to have higher quality makes this inevitable 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? Apparently it's not too bad but all the current Abode products will be upgraded anyway. If you are on an old version of PS - tough!! 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? Not on a tripod 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? No 10. What do other people put on the User setting? I'm still struggling with the standard setting on my K10 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? Pass, I can't see the back of the camera and the subject without looking over the top of my glasses. The terrific optical viewfinder was a major attraction of the DS when I initially went digital. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? Because the upgraded shutter and autofocus is the for the next big (expensive) model -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 megapixels. Right? Paul But consider the difference n .pef file sizes. A K10D's .pef file is around the 10-12MB mark, while the K20D's are around 20-23MB. I don't know why the files are twice the size, but I'm guessing that they are not compressed. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
Okay, granted. If the camera is way off then overall focus correction is an advantage. But I consider that a quality control problem that users shouldn't have to deal with. Being able to set lens specific focus, on the other hand, is a valuable end-user feature. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I disagree, Paul. I was having a significant backfocusing problem on my K10D with all my lenses, which I corrected using the hacked firmware available on the web. Now things focus =much= better, though there is still a tiny variation between lenses. I could not have done my recent macro shooting without having corrected the focus. Rick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think focus adjustment is somewhat useless if it's not lens specific like that of the K20D. Paul http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
K20D high ISO a problem? LOL. You apparently haven't seen any of the recently posted pics. And there are thousands of very satisfied K10D users, including myself. I shoot lots of low-light photography, and I never experienced banding. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: All I can say is: I am kicking myself for ever having wanted a K10. Autofocus was a dissapoinmtent to say the least - no faster than the K100, and actually less reliable! After seeing a few K20d shots from Dubai, my K100d even compares favorably for high ISO shots at iso3200, which I do a lot of. The problem is the very annoying banding - banding looks much worse than grit. My K100d still is just dandy and works like new after about 18 months or so. Then I bought 2 bad K10d in a row from 2 different sellers. The first was DOA. On the second body the Antishake switch simply fell off after 4 months with a stress crack. The switch is a very poor design, as the switch axle is plastic and is attached with a screw into that axle from the inside of the body. It is also just held in place by friction, so after 2 months I started to have problems with it getting a bit flaky in activating antishake. I have read about major injection molding problems with the K10d in several forums by now. There are documented cases of the bottom plates chipping and cracking. And the K20d has the same body hm . Then I saw my lens collection, the fact that the trusty old K100d will not be continued, and snagged the very last K100d Super body in my local store here in Tacoma (Washington State, USA) to have a backup body. That was a lot cheaper than switching systems :) Frankly, I like the colors and exposure of the K100d MUCH better than anything I got out of the K10d. The K100d also doesn't have the banding issues that randomly plagued my K10d. Frankly, with the K20d being the 9th Pentax dSLR model, autofocus, underexposure issues (the Dubai shots are UGLY), high ISO noise, and high ISO banding ought not to be a problem. Yet they are. I hope Pentax reads these forums, because here is one user who would rather buy a good old used and proven model rather than new goods that keep the company and paychecks for Pentax going :) later Owen - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 18:11 Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results If you're noticing it, it's off by a bunch. I don't know why Pentax didn't adjust it properly. The adjustments I'm talking about here are really fine tuning. I did notice the front focus on the FA 50/1.4, which was off by -4 on the K20 scale. The other lenses seemed fine before checking. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:37 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hum. My K10D still does what i sent it in for, my Nikons are fine, what gives. Davethe directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
Yep. That's the kind of high ISO performance everyone can expect. But some here apparently are placing more weight on the Dubai pictures that were made with pre-release firmware. Strange logic. BTW, I find ACR's default settings are not very accurate in terms of color temperature with the K20D. But that's to be expected when working with DNG files from a new camera. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:37 PM, William Robb wrote: I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None of the images recieved any post processing, other than the default settings in camera, and default settings in ACR. No sharpening, or levels or anything. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page1.html The EXIF data is on the full frame shots, but the top picture is shot with the 77mm lens, 1/50th sec at f/2.5, ISO 6400. The portrait is with the 77mm lens, 1/160th sec at f/11, ISO 800. The page is 760K. Enjoy William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: http://pug.komkon.org/ Superb gallery - outright best for me is Leaf Skeleton by David Dixon. The rest are excellent. And Daddy has a nice girl :) I agree. 3 thumbs up. Cheers, Dave :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment result
I tested the DA 16-45 at about 40mm, f4. At some point, I'll check it at 16 or 20mm as well. I have only checked it at one distance. But after reading your post, I did check infinity focus by eye and found it correct insofar as a normal visible check colud determine. Since the focus adjustment for this lens was only one point on the scale, I'm not worried about basing it on a single test for now. But I will follow up. When the FA 50/1.4 required a -4 adjustment, I checked it at two distances -- about five feet from target and ten feet from target. The -4 adjustment proved correct at both distances. I suspect that will prove true for other lenses as well. I would never even have started this except for the fact that the FA 50 showed noticeable front focus. I suspect it was doing the same thing with the K10 but I didn't notice or attributed it to user error. Some day I'll check it on that camera. But, for the most part, I'm too busy taking pictures to spend a lot of time fiddling with hardware. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:58 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Paul, thanks for the report. Do you mind a couple of questions? For the DA 16-45, did you test the adjustments at more than one focal length? Or just one (which one?)? How did that work? Secondly, I assume you are shooting your chart at not too great a distance. Does this give you the results you want for all distances? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? Dunno 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] Dunno 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? The .pef files are around 21MB 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? Again, dunno. (it kinda bugs me too) 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? I haven't seen that 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? Get a PC. It'll be cheaper. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? Only with high ISO (and only until adobe brings out an ACR update) 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? Well it's not needed when you use a tripod is it? 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? While I understand the sentiment I can appreceate why some find it usefull. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? I don't use it. 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? With a tripod. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? Pick up a 6x7 fire of a few shots. That's loud. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
This is a capstan: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1913.jpg This is a capstan a ships bollard: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1531%20copy.jpg (please excuse the crappy colour) Cheers, Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or capstan Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Doug Brewer Sendt: 5. marts 2008 19:52 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Need help with maritime terminology looks like a cleat AlunFoto wrote: Dear gang, Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured thingy in this image? http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Farewell your Majesty
Thanks Jack. I think you may be right, this shot will work better as part of a series. Stay tuned I may put a small GESO together. Cheers, Dave On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like it. You know there are going to be comments regarding the centering thing, but, in this case, that isn't an issue for me. It is an image, however, that will benefit from an explanation. ;) Jack --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2143/2312505644_1223c683d5_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focus test shot
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024445 Here is the head shot. Focus point is on her left eye. DA 50 F2.8 at f2.8 No PS as is from camera. Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:27 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024435 Focus point is on the blue light. The yellow light is more in focus. When i focused on the yellow light, the one behind is in focus. F 2.8 used. I did some test shots, head shots of the SO and they are fine at f2.8. Looks like if it has enough to focus on, it does, but Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Farewell your Majesty
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really great colours and I like the way the old girl is heading off into the sunset (literally and metaphorically) Thanks. They timed the departure quite nicely. But I'm going to be picky. Oh gawd...here we go. ;-) The horizon slopes to the right just slightly but noticeably and the centre is very cluttered with all of those small boats. Probably wouldn't be so noticeable if the ship was larger in the frame. Seems as if it wouldn't be a big task to clone most or some of them out (but then it wouldn't be an accurate image, I suppose!) It must be the engineer in you, because I didn't even notice the slight tilt :-) When I get around to it I'll straighten it out As for the clutter, it would be a more powerful image without it, but as a record of the event it's necessary IMO. However I did take some artistic licence with the colour of the sky water. It was quite a festive atmosphere. The local Port authority was handing out Aussie flags to all comers as she was sailing past someone on board started up the Aussie, Aussie, Aussie... chant :-) Thanks for your comments. Cheers, Dave Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2143/2312505644_1223c683d5_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree, Paul. I was having a significant backfocusing problem on my K10D with all my lenses, which I corrected using the hacked firmware available on the web. Now things focus =much= better, though there is still a tiny variation between lenses. I could not have done my recent macro shooting without having corrected the focus. This is were i am noticing my K10D problem. Back it goes to have them look again' ' Dave Rick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think focus adjustment is somewhat useless if it's not lens specific like that of the K20D. Paul http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:32 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, thanks! I totally wasn't expecting anybody to like it much. CW Well if it makes you feel better, I don't think much of it. = kidding == :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K10D focus test shot
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024435 Focus point is on the blue light. The yellow light is more in focus. When i focused on the yellow light, the one behind is in focus. F 2.8 used. I did some test shots, head shots of the SO and they are fine at f2.8. Looks like if it has enough to focus on, it does, but Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's banding? Yes it is. Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul It's clearly visible at the normal view so it's not a good thing. Cheers, Dave On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
That's banding? HAR! Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 19:37 Subject: K20D pictures I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None of the images recieved any post processing, other than the default settings in camera, and default settings in ACR. No sharpening, or levels or anything. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page1.html The EXIF data is on the full frame shots, but the top picture is shot with the 77mm lens, 1/50th sec at f/2.5, ISO 6400. The portrait is with the 77mm lens, 1/160th sec at f/11, ISO 800. The page is 760K. Enjoy William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would probably end up as BW. Paul On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, David Savage wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's banding? Yes it is. Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul It's clearly visible at the normal view so it's not a good thing. Cheers, Dave On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at 100%. The 6400 output looks just as good as the excellent output from my D300. -Adam On 3/6/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would probably end up as BW. Paul On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, David Savage wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's banding? Yes it is. Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul It's clearly visible at the normal view so it's not a good thing. Cheers, Dave On Mar 5, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Owen LaPrath wrote: The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focus test shot
I did the quick and dirty 45 degree shot of text with the FA 50 at f1.4. With 12 point double spacing, the focus is best on the line above the chosen one. The chosen text is in acceptable focus, however. I can see cases where it could be a problem, but now that I know I'll be sure to check and maybe even bracket focus a bit after checking the screen. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/6/2008 7:27 AM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024435 Focus point is on the blue light. The yellow light is more in focus. When i focused on the yellow light, the one behind is in focus. F 2.8 used. I did some test shots, head shots of the SO and they are fine at f2.8. Looks like if it has enough to focus on, it does, but Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47cfe465241441572851132! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results K20D high ISO a problem? LOL. You apparently haven't seen any of the recently posted pics. And there are thousands of very satisfied K10D users, including myself. I shoot lots of low-light photography, and I never experienced banding. I suspect Owen spends a lot of time with the hand wringers over at DPReview, rather than with people who use their cameras to take pictures. My K20 has the Nikon boys over at the studio drooling. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: K20D pictures Odd. On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like proverbial to me. Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing? Very slightly, don't find it objectionable, and I suspect treating the area with Neat Image or some such would fix it nicely, and I doubt very much that it would show up in print. Even so, it's WAY out of the sensors range, so the equipment is being pushed pretty hard. I'd buy the camera based on this rather than eschew it, if high ISO stuff was my gig. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
Odd. On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like proverbial to me. Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing? Cheers, Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at 100%. The 6400 output looks just as good as the excellent output from my D300. -Adam On 3/6/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would probably end up as BW. Paul On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:44 AM, David Savage wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's banding? Yes it is. Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul It's clearly visible at the normal view so it's not a good thing. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K20D pictures I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would probably end up as BW. There is some banding visible in the darker areas, but I figure that at ISO 6400, those areas are probably about 8 stops or more out of range of the sensor. This makes the image one of those torture tests that is pretty much guaranteed to bring out flaws. In a similar image made at 3200 (7 stops out of range), the banding is very minimal, at 800ISO (6 stops out of range), it is gone, as much as I can see. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page2.html (500k page) Is the technology perfect? I guess not, but it's pretty darned good. William Robb That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focus test shot
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:23, Steve Desjardins wrote: but now that I know I'll be sure to check and maybe even bracket focus a bit after checking the screen. Now that would be an interesting extended bracketing feature - focus bracketing! (only kinda kidding) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K20D pictures I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would probably end up as BW. There is some banding visible in the darker areas, but I figure that at ISO 6400, those areas are probably about 8 stops or more out of range of the sensor. This makes the image one of those torture tests that is pretty much guaranteed to bring out flaws. In a similar image made at 3200 (7 stops out of range), the banding is very minimal, at 800ISO (6 stops out of range), it is gone, as much as I can see. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/k20/K20_page2.html (500k page) Is the technology perfect? I guess not, but it's pretty darned good. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focus test shot
Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:23, Steve Desjardins wrote: but now that I know I'll be sure to check and maybe even bracket focus a bit after checking the screen. Now that would be an interesting extended bracketing feature - focus bracketing! (only kinda kidding) Contax actually did that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: See ya 'Liz
G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
The PEF files on the K10D are compressed, and the size varies with the amount of detail in the image. The K10D DNG files are not compressed, and are consistent in size. I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are compressed or not. Rick --- Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 megapixels. Right? Yeah, but the K10D file had a small JPG in it, too, which made those file sizes variable as well. If they were pure RAW files, they would all be exactly the same size, barring differences in the way it records lens and exposure information in the EXIF data. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know whether the DNGs in the K20D are compressed or not. It doesn't look like it. And if the .pefs are, there isn't much compression going on. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Morning Commute
Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
Good stuff. Love the head-on bow shot. Very powerful. Great rendering. The flag pic is cool too. And, as usual, your panorama is excellent. In truth, I think last night's PESO would be my number four, but it is a very nice addition to the series. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D focus test shot
Did you use auto focus or manual focus. If you used auto focus all bets are off, the camera makes a decision. Now that could be tweaked in software, (I think anyway). If however you manually focused on the blue light and the yellow is in focus then you have a misaligned focusing screen, especially if your results are consistent. That is something that should never have left the factory. David J Brooks wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024435 Focus point is on the blue light. The yellow light is more in focus. When i focused on the yellow light, the one behind is in focus. F 2.8 used. I did some test shots, head shots of the SO and they are fine at f2.8. Looks like if it has enough to focus on, it does, but Dave -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
I like the bus pic! That much snow would close schools and businesses in Philly for a week--maybe only 3 days if it melted immediately. Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Speaking of snow snarling traffic, I spent a year living in Atlanta. One of my clearest memories was sitting at my desk as a consultant at a large corporation, when a regular employee walked by saying ...it's snowing in Birmingham, (Alabama, more than two hours away at normal driving speeds). I'm out of here The snow by the way melted immediately on hitting the streets, the evening commute took 6 hours., normally it took 20 minutes. frank theriault wrote: Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D pictures
Thee are wonderful results. At 6400, a usable image is a benefit; a nice image is wonderful. And the one at 800 is striking. I'm pleased with my K10D (even the JPEGS) but it's nice to know that Pentax is actually moving forward with its camera design and producing some nice stuff. I really want some new lenses but from what I've seen here I understand the desire to go to the K20D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K200D 1600 ISO shot
Hello. I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake). http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight from the camera, 5 MB) Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
Dave, Very nice collection... The pano is great, amazing actually! I want to visit! How did you get that head on shot? QEII on a leash with it's little helper. Flag shot is a terrific way to set the place. And the sunset finishes it all off. (And I think all the other boats aren't really clutter. Taken in context they make it more than just a cruise ship at sunset.) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
Dave, My DNG's are 23 meg, but the PEF's are 12-16 meg. And would you believe Picasa can decode them into images. (Hard to put much over on those Google folks.) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:14 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6 megapixels. Right? Paul But consider the difference n .pef file sizes. A K10D's .pef file is around the 10-12MB mark, while the K20D's are around 20-23MB. I don't know why the files are twice the size, but I'm guessing that they are not compressed. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
And you folks complain about the geese? ;-)) (bu) Jack (in California) --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot
Maybe I don't know any better, but I'd be pleased if it were mine. Jack --- Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake). http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight from the camera, 5 MB) Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: See ya 'Liz
Good images all.. My fav is the pano. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO: See ya 'Liz G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave P.S The Aussies on list might recognise the blue yellow vessel from the news. That's the Customs Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese whaling fleet. P.P.S. Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot
Maybe it is of interest to someone. Not @ 5mb - but thanks for the warning. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: K200D 1600 ISO shot Hello. I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake). http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight from the camera, 5 MB) Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Looks like you're about to be involved in a crash! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Morning Commute Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Trying to answer some :) 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? Yes... bad habits die hard. I switched to K10D fom Z-1p and do feel myself quite OK. 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] To sit comfortably in photographers (!) hands. I would like to have it lighter, but definitely not smaller. FDP-style grip strap would also be great. 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? You may ask from Adobe, why DNG format has to be uncompressed. They may not answer though... 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? All those auto-whatever-features are extremely bad idea in complex lighting conditions. Try RAW and manual conversion settings. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? I would like to see the actual picture. 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? No, just take a longer coffee break and make the music louder. 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? Depends. Myself, I do like Photo Laboratory more than Adobe Camera RAW. Photo Browser is quite useless, but then again - Remote Assistant is SUPER. 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? No, you need to switch SR off when camera is on tripod or other firm base. 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Again - depends. Myself, I do not use it at all (I shoot only RAW), but I know several people who are enjoying it much. 10. What do other people put on the User setting? After switching from JPEG-shooting to RAW-shooting, I don't even remember... 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? No way. 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? This is a question to Sony, not to Pentax. Have you ever heard Alpha 100? Some of the above are actual questions. -T Some of the above are actual answers, too. BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
April PUG submission form is up
You can submit photos for the April PUG, Portrait, at http://pdmlpug.org/?p=26 I've also update the Previous Galleries directory. Follow the links at the bottom of the PUG or go here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html Have a nice day! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
The answer is 42 Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: K20D questions 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? 10. What do other people put on the User setting? 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? Some of the above are actual questions. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:55, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote: Hello. I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake). http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight from the camera, 5 MB) Looks pretty flippin' clean! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz
On 7/3/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: G'day All, I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into a bit more context (~490kb page) http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_016/index.htm Cheers, Dave Nice gallery. The bow shot is stunning. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Look at these two points together. I'm mainly a JPG shooter, but when the lighting gets funny I switch to RAW. The raw processing of tricky white balance is so good that it's worth the trouble. I use the RAW 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? All those auto-whatever-features are extremely bad idea in complex lighting conditions. Try RAW and manual conversion settings. 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? and 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? Again - depends. Myself, I do not use it at all (I shoot only RAW), but I know several people who are enjoying it much. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
On 6/3/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed: 2. Why does it have to be so big? I can't believe you guys! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Tim Bray wrote: 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? The switch is labeled incorrectly. It should be Frank and Everybody else. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 06:45:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Need help with maritime terminology Dear gang, Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured thingy in this image? http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg Looks to be half cleat, half bollard. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-480/Ch9.htm I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? 10. What do other people put on the User setting? 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? Some of the above are actual questions. -T I dunno, but Violent Purple would be a good name for a rock band. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
Seems it already is: http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt Doug Brewer wrote: Tim Bray wrote: 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D? 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel significantly smaller in the hand.] 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable? 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up? 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple? 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly? 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera? 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always? 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW all the time or JPEG all the time? 10. What do other people put on the User setting? 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option? 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud? Some of the above are actual questions. -T I dunno, but Violent Purple would be a good name for a rock band. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tyro Question
Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus point. (18) At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21 and 22. At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18. Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8 macro @ f/2.8). Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?) Your thoughts would help. Thanks, Jack Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
well, there ya go P. J. Alling wrote: Seems it already is: http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt Doug Brewer wrote: I dunno, but Violent Purple would be a good name for a rock band. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
For some reason, I kept getting the fill in all required fields message. Every line had something in it. What could be wrong? Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/6/2008 12:28 PM You can submit photos for the April PUG, Portrait, at http://pdmlpug.org/?p=26 I've also update the Previous Galleries directory. Follow the links at the bottom of the PUG or go here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html Have a nice day! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47d02dd0101541529716044! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
On 6/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks to be half cleat, half bollard. A clollard or a bleat? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Brr. Looks freekin' cold. I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years. G On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:26 AM, frank theriault wrote: Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/ VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/ J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/ uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
Steve Desjardins wrote: For some reason, I kept getting the fill in all required fields message. Every line had something in it. What could be wrong? Make sure you have selected either themed or open at the bottom. If that doesn't fix it, submit directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attach your photo and include any information you would have entered into the form. Yours is the second problem I've been made aware of today. So apparently my form is taking a big fat dump. I'm looking into some fixes for the email line right now. Thanks for the heads-up. Much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tyro Question
No. Because if it's adjusted to correct the focus for the one lens that misses, those that are right on now will be off. At least that's what I think. I believe the adjustment on the K10D is only an overall fix, it's not lens specific. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus point. (18) At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21 and 22. At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18. Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8 macro @ f/2.8). Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?) Your thoughts would help. Thanks, Jack Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: April PUG submission form is up
I had no trouble at all submitting my april portrait :-) Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Desjardins Sendt: 6. marts 2008 20:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: April PUG submission form is up For some reason, I kept getting the fill in all required fields message. Every line had something in it. What could be wrong? Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/6/2008 12:28 PM You can submit photos for the April PUG, Portrait, at http://pdmlpug.org/?p=26 I've also update the Previous Galleries directory. Follow the links at the bottom of the PUG or go here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html Have a nice day! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47d02dd0101541529716044! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1315 - Release Date: 06-03-2008 09:07 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold, as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C. -Adam On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brr. Looks freekin' cold. I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years. G On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:26 AM, frank theriault wrote: Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/ VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/ J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/ uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Billy Blackwelder finds an Antarctic Trout
Hi, Funny shot Walt. It remembers me Donald Sutherland in Kelly's Heores. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Billy was our scoundrel helo pilot :-) He was always pulling some wild storey out of thin air! Walt http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Antarctic-Brook.jpg -- Paolo -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 11:58:22 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: more K20D autofocus adjustment results So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 came in at -4. I retested to make sure. Same result: -4. The FA 35/2 came in at +2. Tonight I did the DA 16-45/4, and as I suspected, it was closer to dead on at just +1 adjustment. It will be interesting when someone (WW?) does this with multiple copies of the same lens.. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New PDML schwag: Stickers!
Scott Loveless suggested this: A PDML sticker for your car (oval country abbreviation type sticker) and I added a You can never have too many lenses bumper sticker. http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
I had no trouble at all submitting my april portrait :-) Regards Jens It came through just fine. The problem encountered was with a .name domain. e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The form didn't like it and returned an invalid email address error. After playing around with it a bit I determined that technically valid addresses such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] returned the same error. Basically, the form isn't compliant with the pertinent RFCs. The good news is that the new version plug-in works nicely. I installed it at my blog and it seems to work just fine. Sometime between closing the April submission form and opening the May form, I'll install the new version at pdmlpug. Thanks a bunch, everyone, for keeping me up to date on these problems. Please don't hesitate to let me know of any difficulties you might have. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tyro Question
Thanks, Paul. Actually I spoke to Pentax tech service (after posting the questing) and was told, since other lens don't exhibit the malady, I need only send the FA 28~70 f/2.8. At the moment, I'm still considering the question. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Because if it's adjusted to correct the focus for the one lens that misses, those that are right on now will be off. At least that's what I think. I believe the adjustment on the K10D is only an overall fix, it's not lens specific. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus point. (18) At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21 and 22. At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18. Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8 macro @ f/2.8). Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?) Your thoughts would help. Thanks, Jack Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
LOL ... Adam, I grew up in New York and lived for a year or so in Vermont. I know what temps and snow conditions are like. ;-) I've lived in California since 1979. Brrr Cold is anything under 55 degrees F now. =8^0 Godfrey On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold, as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C. -Adam On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brr. Looks freekin' cold. I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
Grew up in southern BC and lived in Northern Ontario for a decade, I've got odd definitions on what's cold ;-) -Adam On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL ... Adam, I grew up in New York and lived for a year or so in Vermont. I know what temps and snow conditions are like. ;-) I've lived in California since 1979. Brrr Cold is anything under 55 degrees F now. =8^0 Godfrey On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold, as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C. -Adam On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brr. Looks freekin' cold. I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tyro Question
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 07:08:37 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Tyro Question Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus point. (18) At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21 and 22. At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18. Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8 macro @ f/2.8). Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?) Your thoughts would help. If you mean the incorrect lens, then yes. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 07:20:01 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology On 6/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Looks to be half cleat, half bollard. A clollard or a bleat? Don't be a capstard. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April PUG submission form is up
It went this time. Maybe when I hit themed or open the first time I put the cursor in the wrong place and didn't trigger anything. Anyway, thanks. Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/6/2008 2:21 PM Steve Desjardins wrote: For some reason, I kept getting the fill in all required fields message. Every line had something in it. What could be wrong? Make sure you have selected either themed or open at the bottom. If that doesn't fix it, submit directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attach your photo and include any information you would have entered into the form. Yours is the second problem I've been made aware of today. So apparently my form is taking a big fat dump. I'm looking into some fixes for the email line right now. Thanks for the heads-up. Much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47d04478241448412425888! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Morning Commute
Can't wait for the Gulf Stream to stop. Then we'll have a climate like that. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 06 March 2008 15:26 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO - Morning Commute Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/Vm emUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4 GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD _OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. It could be ailing. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 06:45:03 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Need help with maritime terminology Dear gang, Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured thingy in this image? http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg Looks to be half cleat, half bollard. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-480/Ch9.htm I've never seen a yellow one, either. So I would call it mutant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
I really like the shot through the bus window. Unique, interesting and well rendered. The traffic pics are good as well. We had that storm yesterday. I know we're over our average winter snowfall mount. No record yet, but we must be getting close. Very cold as well. Not much fun. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday we had yet another snowfall. Not a huge one, but this winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto. Only several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations. The morning commute was just a bit messy: This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with: http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/ mar_06_08+002.jpg Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto: http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/ mar_06_08+003.jpg http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b and this: http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/ mar_06_08+001.jpg Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
2. Why does it have to be so big? that's what she said... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: March PUG is up
Thanks for your efforts Scott My favs +Snow Crystal +Fractal Sandfish +Leaf Skeleton +Flute +Daddy's Girl A very nice effort on all the images... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: March PUG is up http://pug.komkon.org/ 33 very nice photographs. Only one shot on film, which is the lowest film to digital ratio I recall seeing. There are also a LOT of 3rd party lenses involved. So, a few firsts, I guess. I'll have next month's submission form (Portraits!) up later tonight. Enjoy. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Farewell your Majesty
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh gawd...here we go. It must be the engineer in you, It's a curse... As for the clutter, it would be a more powerful image without it, but as a record of the event it's necessary IMO. Agreed. It was quite a festive atmosphere. The local Port authority was handing out Aussie flags to all comers as she was sailing past someone on board started up the Aussie, Aussie, Aussie... chant :-) There's one in every crowd I would have liked to have got into Sydney to take some shots of the two ships (QE2 and Queen Victoria) when they passed each other. Seems like the rest of Sydney did :-) In the end, it was just a bit too much hassle. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Online Image Application
I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://a.viary.com/blog Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Morning Commute
...and that usually happens in July! The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco--anon., -not- Mark Twain or WC Fields. --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lived in California since 1979. Brrr Cold is anything under 55 degrees F now. =8^0 Godfrey Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Online Image Application
...oh yeah. I have 5 invitations for anyone who might be interested to try it out. Cheers, Dave. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:01 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://a.viary.com/blog Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Online Image Application
I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://a.viary.com/blog Cheers, Dave Who needs software in a world where there are knives? http://website.lineone.net/~a1/jocelyne/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Online Image Application
Bob W wrote: I thought some of you might find this interesting: http://a.viary.com/blog Cheers, Dave Who needs software in a world where there are knives? http://website.lineone.net/~a1/jocelyne/ Argh! My eyes! Make it stop burning! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan
Amita, I just saw your response so I am late answering. I was assigned to the navy squadron that provided logistic support to the National Science Foundation efforts in Antarctica. We prepositioned from Pt. Mugu, CA to Christchurch, NZ each year in late August/early Sept. First flights to McMurdo, Antarctica were usually in early Sept with continuous flights almost daily to ferry equipment, supplies and people into McMurdo. The two years I was attached to the squadron were probably the most frustrating ever for the squadron and the NSF. Both years saw several planes involved in serious crashes and subsequent retrevial activities. One area, called Dome Charley, the third highest plateay dome on the continent, saw two planes crash in one day. A third plane had to rescue the crews of the other two. To say the least, we were very concerned for several days! Eventually, the following year, both planes were repaired and recovered. I still remember the day that two severly crippled, but flying, C-130's flew back to McMurdo. I left the squadron later that year and the following years saw two more planes recovered from other crash sites. BTW, I was the Photographic Officer in the squadron, supposedly in charge of the aerial mapping photography taskings we had. Unfortunately, the first plane to crash the first year was our one and only camera equipped aircraft. Such luck!!! Walt On 3/4/08, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gorgeous! Why were you in Antartica, Walt? It is one of the places I'd like to visit someday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
I have now established, by direct experience experience and net searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically, white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd bet that wouldn't work either. The Pentax Photo Lab software can in fact correct White Balance. I will investigate further and report back on: - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not) - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back to LR for the rest of the workflow? One assumes that Pentax knows about this? -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need help with maritime terminology
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Need help with maritime terminology Dear gang, Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured thingy in this image? http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg Cleat. It's used for tying the boat to the harbour so it doesn't escape. William Robb (who is much farther from the ocean than you are) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D questions
At 06:57 AM 7/03/2008, Christian wrote: 2. Why does it have to be so big? that's what she said... Really? Isn't pointing and laughing normal? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
- Original Message - From: Tim Bray Subject: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice I have now established, by direct experience experience and net searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically, white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd bet that wouldn't work either. The Pentax Photo Lab software can in fact correct White Balance. I will investigate further and report back on: - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not) - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back to LR for the rest of the workflow? One assumes that Pentax knows about this? -Tim One hopes that Adobe knows about it, since it is their software that is broken. I'd expect that there will be an ACR update fairly soon to fix the issue. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
William Robb wrote: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb This is a picture of Doug, right? http://bp3.blogger.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/Rua47R0G3YI/DDo/325jLPJiFw4/s1600-h/doobiebro.jpg -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
On 6/3/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. Oh boy, tears and breathlessness - thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
ACR works fine. At least that's true for the version that comes with PSCS 1. However, the eyedropper doesn't work. But I rarely use that. I set color temperature to my liking. All the pics I've posted were RAW DNG files processsed with ACR. Paul -- Original message -- From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have now established, by direct experience experience and net searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically, white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd bet that wouldn't work either. The Pentax Photo Lab software can in fact correct White Balance. I will investigate further and report back on: - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not) - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back to LR for the rest of the workflow? One assumes that Pentax knows about this? -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
So much Enablement, so Little Time
Yesterday, I get my K20, today my 58/1.4 Nokton arrived. What a gorgeous lens it is. I start a new renovation in a month, so I'll even be able to pay for all this stuff. Life is, at the moment, a bowl of cherries. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
Tim Bray wrote: I have now established, by direct experience experience and net searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically, white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd bet that wouldn't work either. The Pentax Photo Lab software can in fact correct White Balance. I will investigate further and report back on: - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not) - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back to LR for the rest of the workflow? One assumes that Pentax knows about this? -Tim Yes. Thomas Knoll of Adobe pointed it out in his blog a few days ago. It's an issue with how the K20D calculates the color temperature and tint numbers for DNG (doesn't affect PEF files). The images look fine, as Paul and others have found, but the numbers are wrong. And if you try to change balance with an application that uses the correct numbers you get wonky color. According to one poster on the DP Review Pentax forum (where there was much hand-wringing and rending of garments for a few days), Ned Bunnell has been notified and has notified the engineers in Japan. I'd expect a pretty quick firmware update for this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice
- Until Lightroom and Camera Raw are updated for the K20D specifically, they cannot directly operate on K20D PEF files. - The only way to transfer Pentax Photo Lab adjustment to Lightroom is to render the RAW file as a TIFF or JPEG. - Again, until LR and CR are updated, they have no calibration tables for the K20D. I read on one of the Lightroom forums that the K20D produces DNG files with calibration metrics that are way out of wack from the normal range. If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D calibrations in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me know the URL. Godfrey On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Tim Bray wrote: I have now established, by direct experience experience and net searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's. Basically, white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages the images. I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd bet that wouldn't work either. The Pentax Photo Lab software can in fact correct White Balance. I will investigate further and report back on: - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not) - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back to LR for the rest of the workflow? One assumes that Pentax knows about this? -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?
Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
