SMC 2.8-4.0 40-80mm

2008-03-06 Thread Susan

This old K-lens is not too bad, is it?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2316211100/

Comments are welcome.
Regards
Jens


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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
I highly recommend AGX Imaging http://www.agximaging.com/ in Sault Ste. 
Marie, Michigan.
Outstanding results, with quick turnaround.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Argh! Lost my lab!


>I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
> totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
> friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
> the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
> charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely
> undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed
> up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
> were the same as the last time I'd checked.
>
> *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign
> on it.  Bleah.
>
> So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
> far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
> (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
> that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
> (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
> the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
> appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
> and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
> to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
>
> I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
> minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
> wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
> better shoot some practice rolls).
>
>
>
> So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
> do you take your colour film for processing?
>
> -- Glenn
>
> PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
> it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
> are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
> is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
> Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
> processing.
> 

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WTB: SMCP A 50/1.2

2008-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

If anyone has the subject that they might be willing to sell to me, 
please turn to me off-list.

Thanks!

Boris

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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Rebekah wrote:
> http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2007-October/095710.html
> 
Ooh, boy, that thread's a can of worms.

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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>
> On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or  
>>> two
>>>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D
>>> calibrations
>>>  in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me
>>>  know the URL.
>>
>> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0004.dng - the bathtub in the background
>> is really white
>> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0012.dng - the stripe on the kid's pants
>> is really white
>>
>> They've been through Lightroom, but just enough to crop 'em down to a
>> saner size.  -T
>
> I've got them.
>
> It would be better if you zipped the full, original files. It's hard
> to judge what's what with a DNG export from Lightroom relative to
> what the K20D actually produces.

LOL ... Ach, no need to. I just clicked RESET and there's the whole  
file. ;-)

Godfrey

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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>>  If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two
>>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D  
>> calibrations
>>  in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me
>>  know the URL.
>
> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0004.dng - the bathtub in the background
> is really white
> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0012.dng - the stripe on the kid's pants
> is really white
>
> They've been through Lightroom, but just enough to crop 'em down to a
> saner size.  -T

I've got them.

It would be better if you zipped the full, original files. It's hard  
to judge what's what with a DNG export from Lightroom relative to  
what the K20D actually produces.

Godfrey

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FS: Fast Sigma Glass

2008-03-06 Thread Jerome Reyes
(Because it's Friday somewhere)... I started two eBay auctions just an
hour ago:

Sigma 28-70mm Wide Zoom Lens f2.8 EX DG DF for Pentax
http://tinyurl.com/2dccmq

Sigma 70-200mm Telephoto Lens f2.8 EX APO for Pentax
http://tinyurl.com/2en5xb

Thanks!



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Re: another lens specific focus adjustment

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
While I've lusted for the DA* 60~250, I plan to take note of any
reviews of the planned DA 50~300. So many positive remarks about the
50-200 have not been lost on me.

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens. 
> 
> It came in at -1 in a narrow decision over 0. Thus far my two DA  
> lenses are the most accurate with the K20D. Did I say this lens is  
> sharp? I'm surprised.
> Paul
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Re: another lens specific focus adjustment

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens."
>
>  I agree. I don't have it, but I had use of one for a while and tested it
>  systematically against the old SMC F 70-210. The DA 50-200 held its own
>  in that test, being just a little weaker at the long end.
>
>  Funny thing is, I've seen internal Pentax documents (know ask how) that
>  say the DA 50-200 is weak at the long end, and they've got to do better
>  with the forthcoming 75-300. I'm puzzled by that. That little telezoom
>  strikes me as a very decent performer, and excellent value.

It's ok for what it is, but the OoF rendering can be odd to say the least.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: K10D v K20D

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
Generally true, but as the K20D is emerging, I'll be scanning some
"evaluations".
Lister's comments will be read with interest.

Jack
--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't collect, I buy, shoot & decide.
> 
> I find other peoples tests next to useless.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  Guess I'm more of a critical user than a collector and it's safe
> to
> >  say, I view every shot as a test.
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Re: another lens specific focus adjustment

2008-03-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
"I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens."

I agree. I don't have it, but I had use of one for a while and tested it 
systematically against the old SMC F 70-210. The DA 50-200 held its own 
in that test, being just a little weaker at the long end.

Funny thing is, I've seen internal Pentax documents (know ask how) that 
say the DA 50-200 is weak at the long end, and they've got to do better 
with the forthcoming 75-300. I'm puzzled by that. That little telezoom 
strikes me as a very decent performer, and excellent value.

Joe

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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Rebekah
Glenn-

Try Walmart, Scott recently suggested it and I second that vote.
 Here's the archive link:

http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2007-October/095710.html

 I just had some developed and it turned out beautiful.  Isn't Velvia great?


rg2





On 3/6/08, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not only is your lab gone, but so is HIE unless you can find some
> older stock or have some in the freezer. Discontinued last fall by
> Kodak.
>
> -Adam
>
> On 3/6/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
> >  totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
> >  friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
> >  the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
> >  charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely
> >  undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed
> >  up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
> >  were the same as the last time I'd checked.
> >
> >  *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign
> >  on it.  Bleah.
> >
> >  So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
> >  far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
> >  (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
> >  that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
> >  (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
> >  the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
> >  appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
> >  and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
> >  to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
> >
> >  I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
> >  minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
> >  wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
> >  better shoot some practice rolls).
> >
> >
> >
> >  So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
> >  do you take your colour film for processing?
> >
> > -- Glenn
> >
> >  PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
> >  it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
> >  are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
> >  is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
> >  Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
> >  processing.
> >
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another lens specific focus adjustment

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I tested the DA 50-200 tonight at 80mm, f4.5. That's one sharp lens.  
It came in at -1 in a narrow decision over 0. Thus far my two DA  
lenses are the most accurate with the K20D. Did I say this lens is  
sharp? I'm surprised.
Paul

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PESO 2008 - 18 - GDG

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One from the archives ... this was taken in October 2006 while I was  
at the Tate Modern in London.

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/18-sharing.jpg
Sharing - This Cafe Life 2008
Pentax *ist DS + DA21mm f/3.2 Limited
ISO 800 @ f/3.2 @ 1/500 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey

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Re: K10D v K20D

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
I don't collect, I buy, shoot & decide.

I find other peoples tests next to useless.

Dave


On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Guess I'm more of a critical user than a collector and it's safe to
>  say, I view every shot as a test.

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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I get only a screen full of code from these. I'd like to see how one
>  of these shots responds to manual adjustment. Can you e-mail the pic.
>  Either one would be fine. As shot is better than run through lightroom.

Right-click and select "Download".  No, I'm not emailing 23M .dng
files, sorry.  -T

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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I get only a screen full of code from these. I'd like to see how one  
of these shots responds to manual adjustment. Can you e-mail the pic.  
Either one would be fine. As shot is better than run through lightroom.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>>  If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two
>>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D  
>> calibrations
>>  in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me
>>  know the URL.
>
> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0004.dng - the bathtub in the background
> is really white
> http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0012.dng - the stripe on the kid's pants
> is really white
>
> They've been through Lightroom, but just enough to crop 'em down to a
> saner size.  -T
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Re: PESO: Lead Sled

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. I'm not sure what we're seeing here in terms of  
repeated elements, but it does seem to work at a certain level. And  
it is a cool car. I've shot it before -- a couple of years ago  
perhaps -- and it always gives me a rush. I have to try to find that  
other shot for my cruise book.
Paul
Paul
On Mar 5, 2008, at 8:45 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:15 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7002616&size=lg
>
> Looks just like the one in American Graffiti (one of my favourite
> movies from my teenage years), the one that the Pharaohs drove.
>
> VERY cool shot, VERY cool car!!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two
>  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D calibrations
>  in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me
>  know the URL.

http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0004.dng - the bathtub in the background
is really white
http://www.tbray.org/tmp/TWB_0012.dng - the stripe on the kid's pants
is really white

They've been through Lightroom, but just enough to crop 'em down to a
saner size.  -T

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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Not only is your lab gone, but so is HIE unless you can find some
older stock or have some in the freezer. Discontinued last fall by
Kodak.

-Adam

On 3/6/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
>  totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
>  friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
>  the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
>  charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely
>  undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed
>  up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
>  were the same as the last time I'd checked.
>
>  *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign
>  on it.  Bleah.
>
>  So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
>  far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
>  (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
>  that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
>  (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
>  the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
>  appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
>  and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
>  to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
>
>  I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
>  minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
>  wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
>  better shoot some practice rolls).
>
>
>
>  So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
>  do you take your colour film for processing?
>
> -- Glenn
>
>  PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
>  it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
>  are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
>  is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
>  Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
>  processing.
>
>
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Peso Dog day afternoon

2008-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024466

Had a pretty decent snow storm roll through Tuesday night and most of
the day Wednesday.

Took some snow shots whilst testing out the K10D and DA 50 for focus.


Not a good one to test focus, but i like this one.

K10D DA 50 F2.8 WB adjusted in LR

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Peso: Dolls

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
Years ago, I bought a "collectors set" of porcelain dolls for my wife.
A couple of weeks ago, I bought a 58mm lens from Cameraquest.
Sadly, a 40mm lens was shipped in it's place, and I decided that while one 
cannot have too many 
lenses, I already have two 40mm lenses, and I should at least try to show a bit 
of fiscal 
responsibility while living off the avails of the legal profession, so I sent 
it back.
However, I am weak, and I tried the lens out anyway.
I just looked at the files today, and am thinking, "this is a heck of a nice 
lens".
Sharp, and at the same time, creamy.
Anyone thinking of the Pentax 40mm LTD should do themselves a favour and think 
of the 40mm 
Voigtlander instead,

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/dolls.html

Have fun

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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Unless you have time to do some serious testing, I would beg off on  
this one. Shooting a friends wedding and working with labs you've  
never worked with before? It's a recipe for disaster. And the loss of  
a friend.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:54 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

> I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
> totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
> friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
> the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
> charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not  
> completely
> undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I  
> headed
> up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
> were the same as the last time I'd checked.
>
> *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign
> on it.  Bleah.
>
> So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
> far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
> (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
> that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
> (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
> the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
> appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
> and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
> to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
>
> I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
> minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
> wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
> better shoot some practice rolls).
>
>
>
> So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
> do you take your colour film for processing?
>
>   -- Glenn
>
> PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
> it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
> are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
> is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
> Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
> processing.
>
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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
> far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
> (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
> that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
> (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
> the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
> appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
> and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
> to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
> 
http://kodak.com/global/en/professional/hub/photographer/locators/search.jhtml

Their lab locater wants you to know exactly where the lab is before you 
search for it.  I'd just select "Maryland" and leave everything else 
black.  You should get 4 or 5 results.

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Re: Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread Walter Hamler
If there is a Costco near you and you are a member I would say give them a try.
I am having a wonderful experience with my local store, but there
seems to be a lot of variations from store to store.
The prices cannot be beat and , at least here, they will work with you
to suit your needs.

Walt

On 3/6/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief
> totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a
> friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through
> the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to
> charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely
> undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed
> up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices
> were the same as the last time I'd checked.
>
> *pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign
> on it.  Bleah.
>
> So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
> far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
> (*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
> that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
> (so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
> the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
> appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
> and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
> to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).
>
> I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
> minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
> wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
> better shoot some practice rolls).
>
>
>
> So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
> do you take your colour film for processing?
>
>-- Glenn
>
> PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
> it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
> are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
> is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
> Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
> processing.
>
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Re: PESO: Lead Sled

2008-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:15 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7002616&size=lg

Looks just like the one in American Graffiti (one of my favourite
movies from my teenage years), the one that the Pharaohs drove.

VERY cool shot, VERY cool car!!

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Argh! Lost my lab!

2008-03-06 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
I finally have a vehicle again (after an unlicensed, drunk car thief 
totalled my car and some of my neighbours' cars a year ago), and a 
friend asked me to shoot her wedding in May (I need to crawl through 
the list archives for old threads about what it's reasonable to 
charge so as to still be giving a friend a big break but not completely 
undermine the full-time pros' ability to charge saner fees) so I headed 
up to the lab to drop off some Velvia and to find out whether prices 
were the same as the last time I'd checked.

*pout*  They're gone.  Front window papered over and a "for rent" sign 
on it.  Bleah.

So ... I searched online for photo labs in/near Baltimore, and so
far I'm finding a whole lot of one-hour services in drug stores
(*cringe*), one that looked promising until I dug deeper and saw
that they don't develop film, only scan it and make digital prints
(so I guess I could have the drug store develop it and then take
the negatives there ...), and one that doesn't list prices and
appears to only do machine prints (which, if the operator is serious
and skilled, will do a lot of the time, but I'd like to know where
to get colour done on an enlarger Just In Case).

I was also planning to shoot some HIE, but I don't know whether any
minilab machines are safe for that (I'll Google that later).  I may
wind up having to develop the HIE myself (in which case I guess I'd
better shoot some practice rolls).



So:  who's still shooting film in my neck of the woods, and where
do you take your colour film for processing?

-- Glenn

PS:  I _might_ be able to borrow a DSLR for the day, but if I do,
it'll be a Nikon, since that's what three or four of my bandmates
are shooting.  My own digicam is a 1.2 megapixel point&*shoot that
is not going to be suitable for shooting a wedding.  But my K2 and
Program Plus are ready to go, if I can find a good place for the
processing.

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Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used(motor) yacht market?

2008-03-06 Thread Pål Jensen

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Boats are a bigger money looser than sports
cars/racing, photography, women & children combined.


Reply:

Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half 
price in the US compared to market prices in Norway. 



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Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
At 10:26 AM 7/03/2008, Scott Loveless wrote:
>Pål Jensen wrote:
> > Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks
> > motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the
> > market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated?
> >
> >
> >
>Sorry.  I sank all my petty cash into the Embraer, so I really haven't
>been boat shopping lately.
>
>;)


Boats are a bigger money looser than sports 
cars/racing, photography, women & children combined.

Cheers,

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Re: So much Enablement, so Little Time

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless" 
Subject: Re: So much Enablement, so Little Time


> 
>> 
> Dare I say it?

I'm sure your wife would think it big enough
WW

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Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?

2008-03-06 Thread Micah Kleit
Lucky you!

I don't know much, but given the fact that our currency is quickly  
moving to third world status, the exchange rates ought to help.

Micah

On Mar 6, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Pål Jensen wrote:

> Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand  
> Banks
> motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the
> market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated?
>
>
>
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Re: So much Enablement, so Little Time

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
At 10:28 AM 7/03/2008, Scott Loveless wrote:
>William Robb wrote:
> > Yesterday, I get my K20, today my 58/1.4 Nokton arrived.
> > What a gorgeous lens it is.
> > I start a new renovation in a month, so I'll even be able to pay 
> for all this stuff.
> > Life is, at the moment, a bowl of cherries.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
>Dare I say it?


I double dare you...

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Re: So much Enablement, so Little Time

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:
> Yesterday, I get my K20, today my 58/1.4 Nokton arrived.
> What a gorgeous lens it is.
> I start a new renovation in a month, so I'll even be able to pay for all this 
> stuff.
> Life is, at the moment, a bowl of cherries.
> 
> William Robb
> 
Dare I say it?

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Re: OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Pål Jensen wrote:
> Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks 
> motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the 
> market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? 
> 
> 
> 
Sorry.  I sank all my petty cash into the Embraer, so I really haven't 
been boat shopping lately.

;)

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OT: Any US list members with knowledge abou the used (motor) yacht market?

2008-03-06 Thread Pål Jensen
Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks 
motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the 
market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated? 



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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
- Until Lightroom and Camera Raw are updated for the K20D  
specifically, they cannot directly operate on K20D PEF files.

- The only way to transfer Pentax Photo Lab adjustment to Lightroom  
is to render the RAW file as a TIFF or JPEG.

- Again, until LR and CR are updated, they have no calibration tables  
for the K20D. I read on one of the Lightroom forums that the K20D  
produces DNG files with calibration metrics that are way out of wack  
from the normal range.

If you want to email to my Yahoo account a representative DNG or two  
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), I would like to fool with the K20D calibrations  
in Lightroom. Or put a couple on a web server somewhere and let me  
know the URL.

Godfrey

On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
> searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's.  Basically,
> white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
> the images.  I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
> bet that wouldn't work either.   The Pentax Photo Lab software can in
> fact correct White Balance.   I will investigate further and report
> back on:
>
> - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not)
> - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back
> to LR for the rest of the workflow?
>
> One assumes that Pentax knows about this?  -Tim
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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Bray wrote:
> I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
> searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's.  Basically,
> white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
> the images.  I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
> bet that wouldn't work either.   The Pentax Photo Lab software can in
> fact correct White Balance.   I will investigate further and report
> back on:
> 
> - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not)
> - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back
> to LR for the rest of the workflow?
> 
> One assumes that Pentax knows about this?  -Tim

Yes. Thomas Knoll of Adobe pointed it out in his blog a few days ago. 
It's an issue with how the K20D calculates the color temperature and 
tint numbers for DNG (doesn't affect PEF files). The images look fine, 
as Paul and others have found, but the numbers are wrong. And if you try 
to change balance with an application that uses the correct numbers you 
get wonky color.

According to one poster on the DP Review Pentax forum (where there was 
much hand-wringing and rending of garments for a few days), Ned Bunnell 
has been notified and has notified the engineers in Japan. I'd expect a 
pretty quick firmware update for this.


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So much Enablement, so Little Time

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
Yesterday, I get my K20, today my 58/1.4 Nokton arrived.
What a gorgeous lens it is.
I start a new renovation in a month, so I'll even be able to pay for all this 
stuff.
Life is, at the moment, a bowl of cherries.

William Robb

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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread pnstenquist
ACR works fine. At least that's true for the version that comes with PSCS 1. 
However, the eyedropper doesn't work. But I rarely use that. I set color 
temperature to my liking. All the pics I've posted were RAW DNG files 
processsed with ACR.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "Tim Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
> searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's.  Basically,
> white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
> the images.  I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
> bet that wouldn't work either.   The Pentax Photo Lab software can in
> fact correct White Balance.   I will investigate further and report
> back on:
> 
> - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not)
> - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back
> to LR for the rest of the workflow?
> 
> One assumes that Pentax knows about this?  -Tim
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Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s

2008-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/3/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html
>
>This is too funny for words.

Oh boy, tears and breathlessness - thanks.

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Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:
> http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html
> 
> This is too funny for words.
> 
> William Robb
> 
This is a picture of Doug, right? 
http://bp3.blogger.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/Rua47R0G3YI/DDo/325jLPJiFw4/s1600-h/doobiebro.jpg


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Re: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Bray"
Subject: K20D and Lightroom don't play nice


>I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
> searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's.  Basically,
> white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
> the images.  I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
> bet that wouldn't work either.   The Pentax Photo Lab software can in
> fact correct White Balance.   I will investigate further and report
> back on:
>
> - Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not)
> - Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back
> to LR for the rest of the workflow?
>
> One assumes that Pentax knows about this?  -Tim

One hopes that Adobe knows about it, since it is their software that is broken. 
I'd expect that
there will be an ACR update fairly soon to fix the issue.

William Robb


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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
At 06:57 AM 7/03/2008, Christian wrote:

> >>  2. Why does it have to be so big?
>
>that's what she said...


Really?

Isn't pointing and laughing normal?

Cheers,


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Re: Need help with maritime terminology

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "AlunFoto" 
Subject: Need help with maritime terminology


> Dear gang,
> Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured
> thingy in this image?
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg

Cleat.
It's used for tying the boat to the harbour so it doesn't escape.


William Robb (who is much farther from the ocean than you are)


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K20D and Lightroom don't play nice

2008-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
I have now established, by direct experience experience and net
searches, that Lightroom has problems with K20D DNG's.  Basically,
white balance correction seems to work but in fact severely damages
the images.  I believe this is the same code as occurs in ACR, so I'd
bet that wouldn't work either.   The Pentax Photo Lab software can in
fact correct White Balance.   I will investigate further and report
back on:

- Do PEFs work better? (I'd assume not)
- Can I just do the WB in the klunky Pentax software then switch back
to LR for the rest of the workflow?

One assumes that Pentax knows about this?  -Tim

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I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html

This is too funny for words.

William Robb

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Re: PESO: Antarctica Slide Scan

2008-03-06 Thread Walter Hamler
Amita, I just saw your response so I am late answering.

I was assigned to the navy squadron that provided logistic support to
the National Science Foundation efforts in Antarctica. We
prepositioned from Pt. Mugu, CA to Christchurch, NZ each year in late
August/early Sept. First flights to McMurdo, Antarctica were usually
in early Sept with continuous flights almost daily to ferry equipment,
supplies and people into McMurdo.

The two years I was attached to the squadron were probably the most
frustrating ever for the squadron and the NSF. Both years saw several
planes involved in serious crashes and subsequent retrevial
activities. One area, called Dome Charley, the third highest plateay
dome on the continent, saw two planes crash in one day. A third plane
had to rescue the crews of the other two. To say the least, we were
very concerned for several days!

Eventually, the following year, both planes were repaired and
recovered. I still remember the day that two severly crippled, but
flying, C-130's flew back to McMurdo. I left the squadron later that
year and the following years saw two more planes recovered from other
crash sites.

BTW, I was the Photographic Officer in the squadron, supposedly in
charge of the aerial mapping photography taskings we had.
Unfortunately, the first plane to crash the first year was our one and
only camera equipped aircraft. Such luck!!!

Walt

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> Gorgeous! Why were you in Antartica, Walt? It is one of the places I'd
> like to visit someday.

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Re: Online Image Application

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote:
>> I thought some of you might find this interesting:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
> 
> Who needs software in a world where there are knives?
> 
> http://website.lineone.net/~a1/jocelyne/
> 
> 
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RE: Online Image Application

2008-03-06 Thread Bob W
> 
> I thought some of you might find this interesting:
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave

Who needs software in a world where there are knives?

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Re: OT: Online Image Application

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
...oh yeah. I have 5 invitations for anyone who might be interested to
try it out.

Cheers,

Dave.

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>
>  
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dave
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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
...and that usually happens in July!

"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San
Francisco"--anon., -not- Mark Twain or WC Fields.

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I've lived in California since 1979. "Brrr Cold" is
> anything under 55  
> degrees F now. =8^0
> 
> Godfrey
> 



  

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OT: Online Image Application

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
I thought some of you might find this interesting:



Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Farewell your Majesty

2008-03-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> Oh gawd...here we go.
> 
> It must be the engineer in you, 


It's a curse...



> As for the clutter, it would be a more powerful image without it,
> but
> as a record of the event it's necessary IMO. 


Agreed.

 
> It was quite a festive atmosphere. The local Port authority was
> handing out Aussie flags to all comers & as she was sailing past
> someone on board started up the "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie..." chant
> :-)



There's one in every crowd

I would have liked to have got into Sydney to take some shots of the two ships 
(QE2 and Queen Victoria) when they passed each other.  Seems like the rest of 
Sydney did :-)>   In the end, it was just a bit too much hassle.



Cheers

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Re: March PUG is up

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks for your efforts Scott

My favs
+Snow Crystal
+Fractal Sandfish
+Leaf Skeleton
+Flute
+Daddy's Girl

A very nice effort on all the images...

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Subject: March PUG is up


> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> 33 very nice photographs.  Only one shot on film, which is the lowest
> film to digital ratio I recall seeing.  There are also a LOT of 3rd
> party lenses involved.  So, a few firsts, I guess.
>
> I'll have next month's submission form (Portraits!) up later tonight.
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> Enjoy.
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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Christian

>>  2. Why does it have to be so big?

that's what she said...




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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread pnstenquist
I really like the shot through the bus window. Unique, interesting and well 
rendered. The traffic pics are good as well. We had that storm yesterday. I 
know we're over our average winter snowfall mount. No record yet, but we must 
be getting close. Very cold as well. Not much fun.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
> 
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
> 
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/
> mar_06_08+002.jpg
> 
> 
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
> 
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/
> mar_06_08+003.jpg
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
> 
> 
> and this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/
> mar_06_08+001.jpg
> 
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Need help with maritime terminology

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
> I've never seen a yellow one, either.  So I would call it mutant.

It could be ailing.

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From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology


>
>>
>> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 06:45:03 GMT
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Need help with maritime terminology
>>
>> Dear gang,
>> Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured
>> thingy in this image?
>>
>> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg
>>
>
> Looks to be half cleat, half bollard.
> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-480/Ch9.htm
>
> I've never seen a yellow one, either.  So I would call it mutant.


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RE: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Bob W
Can't wait for the Gulf Stream to stop. Then we'll have a climate like
that.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of frank theriault
> Sent: 06 March 2008 15:26
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: GESO - Morning Commute
> 
> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
> 
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I
took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I
worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
> 
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/Vm
> emUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
> 
> 
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
> 
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4
> GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
> 
> 
> and this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD
> _OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
> 
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
It went this time.  Maybe when I hit "themed" or "open" the first time I
put the cursor in the wrong place and didn't trigger anything.  Anyway,
thanks.

>>> Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/6/2008 2:21 PM >>>
Steve Desjardins wrote:
> For some reason, I kept getting the "fill in all required fields"
> message.  Every line had something in it.  What could be wrong?
> 

Make sure you have selected either "themed" or "open" at the bottom. 
If 
that doesn't fix it, submit directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Attach

your photo and include any information you would have entered into the
form.

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apparently my form is taking a big fat dump.  I'm looking into some 
fixes for the email line right now.

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Re: Need help with maritime terminology

2008-03-06 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 07:20:01 GMT
> To: "pentax list" 
> Subject: Re: Need help with maritime terminology
> 
> On 6/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Looks to be half cleat, half bollard.
> 
> A clollard or a bleat?

Don't be a capstard.


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Re: Tyro Question

2008-03-06 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/03/06 Thu PM 07:08:37 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Tyro Question
> 
> Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been
> discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. 
> I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D
> on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus
> point. (18")
> At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21" and 22".
> At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18".
> Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8
> macro @ f/2.8).
> Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?)
> Your thoughts would help.

If you mean the incorrect lens, then yes.


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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Grew up in southern BC and lived in Northern Ontario for a decade,
I've got odd definitions on what's cold ;-)

-Adam

On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL ... Adam, I grew up in New York and lived for a year or so in
>  Vermont. I know what temps and snow conditions are like. ;-)
>
>  I've lived in California since 1979. "Brrr Cold" is anything under 55
>  degrees F now. =8^0
>
>
>  Godfrey
>
>
>  On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>  > Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold,
>  > as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C.
>  >
>  > -Adam
>  >
>  > On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >> Brr. Looks freekin' cold.
>  >>
>  >>  I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years.
>  >>
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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... Adam, I grew up in New York and lived for a year or so in  
Vermont. I know what temps and snow conditions are like. ;-)

I've lived in California since 1979. "Brrr Cold" is anything under 55  
degrees F now. =8^0

Godfrey

On Mar 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold,
> as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C.
>
> -Adam
>
> On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Brr. Looks freekin' cold.
>>
>>  I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years.
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Re: Tyro Question

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul.
Actually I spoke to Pentax tech service (after posting the questing)
and was told, since other lens don't exhibit the malady, I need only
send the FA 28~70 f/2.8.
At the moment, I'm still considering the question.

Jack

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No. Because if it's adjusted to correct the focus for the one lens
> that misses, those that are right on now will be off. At least that's
> what I think. I believe the adjustment on the K10D is only an overall
> fix, it's not lens specific.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been
> > discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. 
> > I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the
> K10D
> > on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus
> > point. (18")
> > At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21" and 22".
> > At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18".
> > Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm
> f/2.8
> > macro @ f/2.8).
> > Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?)
> > Your thoughts would help.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >
>

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Re: April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
> I had no trouble at all submitting my april portrait :-)
> Regards
> Jens
> 

It came through just fine.  The problem encountered was with a .name 
domain.  e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The form didn't like it and 
returned an invalid email address error.  After playing around with it a 
bit I determined that technically valid addresses such as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] returned the same error.  Basically, the form 
isn't compliant with the pertinent RFCs.

The good news is that the new version plug-in works nicely.  I installed 
it at my blog and it seems to work just fine.  Sometime between closing 
the April submission form and opening the May form, I'll install the new 
version at pdmlpug.

Thanks a bunch, everyone, for keeping me up to date on these problems. 
Please don't hesitate to let me know of any difficulties you might have.

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New PDML schwag: Stickers!

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless suggested this: A PDML sticker for your car (oval 
"country abbreviation" type sticker) and I added a "You can never have 
too many lenses" bumper sticker.

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Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 11:58:22 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: more K20D autofocus adjustment results
> 
> So far I've adjusted the FA 50/1.4, the FA 35/2 and now the DA  
> 16-45/4. The 50/1.4 came in at -4. I retested to make sure. Same  
> result: -4. The FA 35/2 came in at +2. Tonight I did the DA 16-45/4,  
> and as I suspected, it was closer to dead on at just +1 adjustment.

It will be interesting when someone (WW?) does this with multiple copies of the 
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Re: PESO: Billy Blackwelder finds an Antarctic Trout

2008-03-06 Thread Paolo Vercesi
Hi,

Funny shot Walt. It remembers me Donald Sutherland in "Kelly's Heores".

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Billy was our scoundrel helo pilot :-)
>  He was always pulling some wild storey out of thin air!
>
>  Walt
>
>  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/Antarctic-Brook.jpg
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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
Warm (~32F) but messy. You don't get that sort of mess in real cold,
as heavy snow usually doesn't happen below -10-15C.

-Adam

On 3/6/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brr. Looks freekin' cold.
>
>  I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years.
>
>
>  G
>
>
>  On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:26 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>
>  > Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
>  > winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
>  > several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
>  > morning commute was just a bit messy:
>  >
>  > This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took
>  > it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked
>  > on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
>  >
>  > http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
>  >
>  > http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/
>  > VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
>  >
>  >
>  > Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
>  >
>  > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/
>  > J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
>  >
>  > http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
>  >
>  >
>  > and this:
>  >
>  > http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
>  >
>  > http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/
>  > uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
>  >
>  > Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
>  > (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
>  >
>
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RE: April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Susan
I had no trouble at all submitting my april portrait :-)
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Re: Tyro Question

2008-03-06 Thread pnstenquist
No. Because if it's adjusted to correct the focus for the one lens that misses, 
those that are right on now will be off. At least that's what I think. I 
believe the adjustment on the K10D is only an overall fix, it's not lens 
specific.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been
> discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. 
> I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D
> on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus
> point. (18")
> At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21" and 22".
> At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18".
> Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8
> macro @ f/2.8).
> Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?)
> Your thoughts would help.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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Re: April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Steve Desjardins wrote:
> For some reason, I kept getting the "fill in all required fields"
> message.  Every line had something in it.  What could be wrong?
> 

Make sure you have selected either "themed" or "open" at the bottom.  If 
that doesn't fix it, submit directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Attach 
your photo and include any information you would have entered into the form.

Yours is the second problem I've been made aware of today.  So 
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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Brr. Looks freekin' cold.

I haven't had to drive in conditions like that for many years.

G

On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:26 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
>
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/ 
> VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
>
>
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/ 
> J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
>
>
> and this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/ 
> uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
>
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
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Re: Need help with maritime terminology

2008-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/3/08, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Looks to be half cleat, half bollard.

A clollard or a bleat?

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Re: April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
For some reason, I kept getting the "fill in all required fields"
message.  Every line had something in it.  What could be wrong?

>>> Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/6/2008 12:28 PM >>>
You can submit photos for the April PUG, "Portrait", at 
http://pdmlpug.org/?p=26 

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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Doug Brewer
well, there ya go

P. J. Alling wrote:
> Seems it already is:
> 
> http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt
> 
> Doug Brewer wrote:
> 

>>
>>I dunno, but "Violent Purple" would be a good name for a rock band.
>>
>>  
> 
> 
> 

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Tyro Question

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
Having read several posts where back/front focus issues have been
discussed, I decided to check out a few lenses. 
I set up a yard stick and 'prox a 45 degree angle and placed the K10D
on a tripod with the camera body three feet from the chosen focus
point. (18")
At 28mm and f/2.8, it is in sharp focus between 21" and 22".
At 70mm, it appears to be in sharp focus at 18".
Two other lenses checked out as fine. (DA 16~45 @ f/4 and A 100mm f/2.8
macro @ f/2.8).
Wondering if it should make the trip to Colorado.(?)
Your thoughts would help.

Thanks,

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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Seems it already is:

http://www.emp3world.com/mp3/6545/A%20Violent%20Purple/Better%20Days%20Will%20Come

http://tinyurl.com/2vqcjt

Doug Brewer wrote:
> Tim Bray wrote:
>   
>>  1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front &
>> back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
>>  2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
>> significantly smaller in the hand.]
>>  3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable?
>>  4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
>> toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white
>> porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up?
>>  5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys
>> playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple?
>>  6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of
>> photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly?
>>  7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera?
>>  8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
>> stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?
>>  9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW
>> all the time or JPEG all the time?
>> 10. What do other people put on the "User" setting?
>> 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option?
>> 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud?
>>
>> Some of the above are actual questions.  -T
>>
>> 
>
> I dunno, but "Violent Purple" would be a good name for a rock band.
>
>   


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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Doug Brewer


Tim Bray wrote:
>  1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front &
> back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
>  2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
> significantly smaller in the hand.]
>  3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable?
>  4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
> toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white
> porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up?
>  5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys
> playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple?
>  6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of
> photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly?
>  7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera?
>  8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
> stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?
>  9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW
> all the time or JPEG all the time?
> 10. What do other people put on the "User" setting?
> 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option?
> 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud?
> 
> Some of the above are actual questions.  -T
> 

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Re: Need help with maritime terminology

2008-03-06 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/03/05 Wed PM 06:45:03 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Need help with maritime terminology
> 
> Dear gang,
> Can someone please tell me the English name of the orange-coloured
> thingy in this image?
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/20070616-0037_lzn.jpg
>

Looks to be half cleat, half bollard.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-480/Ch9.htm

I've never seen a yellow one, either.  So I would call it mutant.


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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Tim Bray wrote:
>  8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
> stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?

The switch is labeled incorrectly.  It should be "Frank" and "Everybody 
else".

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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/3/08, Peter Fairweather, discombobulated, unleashed:

>  2. Why does it have to be so big?

I can't believe you guys!


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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
Look at these two points together.  I'm mainly a JPG shooter, but when
the lighting gets funny I switch to RAW.  The raw processing of tricky
white balance is so good that it's worth the trouble.

I use the RAW 



>  4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
> toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white
> porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close
up?
>   
All those auto-whatever-features are extremely bad idea in complex 
lighting conditions. Try RAW and manual conversion settings.
>  5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys
> playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple?
>   

and 

>  9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW
> all the time or JPEG all the time?
>   
Again - depends. Myself, I do not use it at all (I shoot only RAW), but

I know several people who are enjoying it much.


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Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz

2008-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 7/3/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>G'day All,
>
>I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into
>a bit more context (~490kb page)
>
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave

Nice gallery. The bow shot is stunning.



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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
The answer is 42

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: K20D questions


> 1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front &
> back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
> 2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
> significantly smaller in the hand.]
> 3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable?
> 4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
> toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white
> porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up?
> 5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys
> playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple?
> 6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of
> photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly?
> 7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera?
> 8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
> stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?
> 9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW
> all the time or JPEG all the time?
> 10. What do other people put on the "User" setting?
> 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option?
> 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud?
> 
> Some of the above are actual questions.  -T
>

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Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot

2008-03-06 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 6, 2008, at 9:55, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it
> yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to
> someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake).
>
> http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight
> from the camera, 5 MB)
>

Looks pretty flippin' clean!

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April PUG submission form is up

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
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Re: K20D questions

2008-03-06 Thread Margus Männik
Trying to answer some :)
>  1. How long will it take for my hand to stop telling me the front &
> back wheels are awkwardly placed after 4 years carrying a *ist-D?
>   
Yes... bad habits die hard. I switched to K10D fom Z-1p and do feel 
myself quite OK.

>  2. Why does it have to be so big? [By the way, the K200D doesn't feel
> significantly smaller in the hand.]
>   
To sit comfortably in photographers (!) hands. I would like to have it 
lighter, but definitely not smaller. FDP-style grip strap would also be 
great.
>  3. 23M .dng files, yow... maybe .pef would be more tractable?
>   
You may ask from Adobe, why DNG format has to be uncompressed. They may 
not answer though...

>  4. Why, when I tried to auto-white balance an ISO-1600 picture of a
> toddler in a bathtub using Lightroom's WB wand to click on the white
> porcelain, did the baby's flesh go all mottled when you look close up?
>   
All those auto-whatever-features are extremely bad idea in complex 
lighting conditions. Try RAW and manual conversion settings.
>  5. Why, when I tried to do the same to an ISO-1600 shot of boys
> playing soccer in a yellow gym, did it snap into violent purple?
>   
I would like to see the actual picture.
>  6. Am I going to need to buy a Power Mac to process large numbers of
> photos in Lightroom without making my computer wheeze audibly?
>   
No, just take a longer coffee break and make the music louder.

>  7. Am I going to have to use the software that came with the camera?
>   
Depends. Myself, I do like Photo Laboratory more than Adobe Camera RAW. 
Photo Browser is quite useless, but then again - Remote Assistant is SUPER.
>  8. Why is there a prominent switch for turning the image
> stabilization off, wouldn't you want it on always?
>   
No, you need to switch SR off when camera is on tripod or other firm base.
>  9. Why do you want a RAW button, wouldn't most people shoot in RAW
> all the time or JPEG all the time?
>   
Again - depends. Myself, I do not use it at all (I shoot only RAW), but 
I know several people who are enjoying it much.
> 10. What do other people put on the "User" setting?
>   
After switching from JPEG-shooting to RAW-shooting, I don't even remember...

> 11. What's the smart way to use the Live View option?
>   
No way.
> 12. Why does the shutter noise have to be so loud?
>   
This is a question to Sony, not to Pentax. Have you ever heard Alpha 100?

> Some of the above are actual questions.  -T
>   
Some of the above are actual answers, too.

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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
Looks like you're about to be involved in a crash!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GESO - Morning Commute


> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
>
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
>
>
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
>
>
> and this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
>
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
>Maybe it is of interest to  someone.

Not @ 5mb - but thanks for the warning.

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From: "Marcus A. Hofmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: K200D 1600 ISO shot


> Hello.
>
> I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it
> yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to
> someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake).
>
> http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight
> from the camera, 5 MB)
>
>
> Marcus
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Re: See ya 'Liz

2008-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
Good images all..

My fav is the pano.

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- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GESO: See ya 'Liz


> G'day All,
> 
> I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into
> a bit more context (~490kb page)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> P.S
> 
> The Aussies on list might recognise the blue & yellow vessel from the
> news. That's the Customs & Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese
> whaling fleet.
> 
> P.P.S.
> 
> Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-)


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Re: K200D 1600 ISO shot

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
Maybe I don't know any better, but I'd be pleased if it were mine.

Jack
--- "Marcus A. Hofmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it 
> 
> yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to
>  
> someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake).
> 
> http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight
>  
> from the camera, 5 MB)
> 
> 
> Marcus
> 
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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Jack Davis
And you folks complain about the geese? ;-))  (bu)

Jack (in California)
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
> 
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I
> took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I
> worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
> 
>
http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
> 
> 
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
> 
>
http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
> 
> 
> and this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
> 
>
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
> 
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: more K20D autofocus adjustment results

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
My DNG's are 23 meg, but the PEF's are 12-16 meg.
And would you believe Picasa can decode them into images.
(Hard to put much over on those Google folks.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:14 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If a K10D file is 16 megabytes, and a K20D file is 23 megabytes, that
> >  corresponds roughly to the difference between 10 megapixels and 14.6
> >  megapixels. Right?
> >  Paul
>
> But consider the difference n .pef file sizes. A K10D's .pef file is
> around the 10-12MB mark, while the K20D's are around 20-23MB.
>
> I don't know why the files are twice the size, but I'm guessing that
> they are not compressed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: GESO: See ya 'Liz

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
Very nice collection...
The pano is great, amazing actually!  I want to visit!
How did you get that head on shot?  QEII on a leash with it's little helper.
Flag shot is a terrific way to set the place.
And the sunset finishes it all off.
(And I think all the other boats aren't really clutter.
Taken in context they make it more than just a cruise ship at sunset.)
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:08 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> I've put together a small 4 image gallery to put last nights PESO into
> a bit more context (~490kb page)
>
> 
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
> P.S
>
> The Aussies on list might recognise the blue & yellow vessel from the
> news. That's the Customs & Fisheries vessel that shadowed the Japanese
> whaling fleet.
>
> P.P.S.
>
> Brian, that shot was out 0.38 degrees ;-)
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K200D 1600 ISO shot

2008-03-06 Thread Marcus A. Hofmann
Hello.

I just got my new K200D today. Didn't have much time to play with it  
yet, but I thought I'd share a quick shot. Maybe it is of interest to  
someone. ISO 1600 at f/22 with a 40 mm DA limited (pancake).

http://www.ntony.net/temp/IMGP0020.jpg (full resolution jpeg straight  
from the camera, 5 MB)


Marcus


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Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
Thee are wonderful results.  At 6400, a usable image is a benefit; a
nice image is wonderful.  And the one at 800  is striking. 

I'm pleased with my K10D (even the JPEGS) but it's nice to know that
Pentax is actually moving forward with its camera design and producing
some nice stuff.  I really want some new lenses  but from what I've seen
here I understand the desire to go to the K20D.

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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Speaking of snow snarling traffic, I spent a year living in Atlanta.  
One of my clearest memories was sitting at my desk as a consultant at a 
large corporation, when a regular employee walked by saying "...it's 
snowing in Birmingham, (Alabama, more than two hours away at normal 
driving speeds). I'm out of here...".  The snow by the way melted 
immediately on hitting the streets, the evening commute took 6 hours.,  
normally it took 20 minutes.

frank theriault wrote:
> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
>
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty dark out when I took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was 5am when I worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had to deal with:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
>
> http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
>
>
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
>
>
> and this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
>
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   


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Re: GESO - Morning Commute

2008-03-06 Thread Rick Womer
I like the bus pic!

That much snow would close schools and businesses in
Philly for a week--maybe only 3 days if it melted
immediately.

Rick

--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yesterday we had yet another snowfall.  Not a huge
> one, but this
> winter has set a record for the most snow here in
> Toronto.  Only
> several mid-winter thaws have prevented huge
> accumulations.  The
> morning commute was just a bit messy:
> 
> This one's a bit muddy (OTOH, it was still pretty
> dark out when I took
> it) and otherwise has technical deficiencies (it was
> 5am when I worked
> on it), but you can see what the poor bus driver had
> to deal with:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2rjh9d
> 
>
http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADN3a2bVI/Bqg/VmemUGFd068/s1600-h/mar_06_08+002.jpg
> 
> 
> Here's what snow does to traffic in Toronto:
> 
>
http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADOHa2bWI/Bqo/J4GMEqxp1JU/s1600-h/mar_06_08+003.jpg
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2bf88b
> 
> 
> and this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2ad4qx
> 
>
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9ADlna2bXI/Bqw/uD_OXC4yfkg/s1600-h/mar_06_08+001.jpg
> 
> Not great photos, but rather a record of what's
> become almost daily
> (or at least weekly) life here in Toronto lately...
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: K10D focus test shot

2008-03-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Did you use auto focus or manual focus.  If you used auto focus all bets 
are off, the camera makes a decision.  Now that could be tweaked in 
software, (I think anyway).  If however you manually focused on the blue 
light and the yellow is in focus then you have a misaligned focusing 
screen, especially if your results are consistent.  That is something 
that should never have left the factory.

David J Brooks wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7024435
>
> Focus point is on the blue light. The yellow light is more in focus.
> When i focused on the yellow light, the one behind is in focus. F 2.8
> used.
>
> I did some test shots, head shots of the SO and they are fine at f2.8.
>
> Looks like if it has enough to focus on, it does, but
>
> Dave
>
>   


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