Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Photo Lab processed shots may look less noisy, but they lose detail as well. If you saw the 1600 ISO shots I posted, I think you'd have to agree that they're coparable to ISO 400 K10D shots in terms of noise -- with no loss of detail. They're all ACR processed. I have never seen any benefit to using the Pentax software. In the past or now. ACR used correctly -- or lightroom, which is the same code -- is far superior. I disagree. I had some high-ISO shots - a baby in a bath - and Lightroom 1.3 entirely failed at setting white balance using the WB Selector. I could sort of dial it in with the other adjustments. The interesting thing is that if you use the WB selector, the picture looks OK at the macro level; in fact, with better colour balance than I could get by hand. But if you look at a 100% crop, the damage is obvious, the baby looked like she had some horrible skin disease. This is with the DNG files. It refused to even open PEFs. -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - 2-wheeled enablement
On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Steel touring bike, interesting mix of modern (disc brakes) and old-fashioned (steel frame, barcons). http://www.konaworld.com/08_sutra_c.htm I think the disc brakes would come in rather handy when it's loaded up with panniers, especially in the wet. My Paddy Wagon is still going strong. I haven't put the freewheel back on yet :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Be careful what you work for
I have been nagging my friend and colleague for years to get a DSLR for travel photos. She'll take 500-700 pictures in a week with a PS. After borrowing my DS (and seeing better results), she's giving in. She wants to get a K10D and a Pentax 18-250. I'm not thrilled about the superzoom, but she's still not thrilled with changing lenses and some online comparisons with the 18-200 and the 18-55, 50-200 combo are favorable. I think she's doing well but I am always nervous about making recommendations. Thanks for reading, just venting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exercising the K85/1.8
I enjoy it when I have the time. I'm learning when looking at everyone's photos. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Exercising the K85/1.8 Thanks Christine. I'm still rubbing my eyes. It's more than I had hoped for. You're a real trooper, young lady. Commenting on every pic. That's a lot of work, but it's certainly appreciated. Paul On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Paul: Very Sweet!!! I just can't get over the quality at these high ISOs. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8 Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
Godfrey, that's a really good little photo essay - very effective, and some great compositions. I also like the black white conversion you've done. Regards Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 11 March 2008 06:13 To: DUG; PDML List; PAW; SeePhoto Talk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Interview with John Carlson
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/11 Tue AM 12:36:05 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Interview with John Carlson FYI: http://www.letsgodigital.org:80/en/18496/pentax-interview/ Bizarre. It reads as if it has been translated back into English from Japanese. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:52:57 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg Paul, it's a real dog of a lens, allow me to take it of your hands 8) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Thanks to everyone who gave me information and advice, you have helped me to make a decision. As the K20D is still a bit expensive for me, I have ordered a lightly used K10D Grand Prix Edition and I am looking forward to its arrival. It comes with a DA 18-55 mm. which I don't need, as I already have one. Is anyone interested in buying such lens (LN, boxed) for 50 euros plus shipping expenses? Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D PEF Files On a Mac?
Of course it refused to open PEFs. None of the third party software works with new camera until the format has been communicated and the software updated. I'm using ACR with all my K20D images with no problem. I've posted more than a dozen here, including at least half a dozen color pics, many shot under tungsten, one shot in light coming only from a television screen. Paul On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax Photo Lab processed shots may look less noisy, but they lose detail as well. If you saw the 1600 ISO shots I posted, I think you'd have to agree that they're coparable to ISO 400 K10D shots in terms of noise -- with no loss of detail. They're all ACR processed. I have never seen any benefit to using the Pentax software. In the past or now. ACR used correctly -- or lightroom, which is the same code -- is far superior. I disagree. I had some high-ISO shots - a baby in a bath - and Lightroom 1.3 entirely failed at setting white balance using the WB Selector. I could sort of dial it in with the other adjustments. The interesting thing is that if you use the WB selector, the picture looks OK at the macro level; in fact, with better colour balance than I could get by hand. But if you look at a 100% crop, the damage is obvious, the baby looked like she had some horrible skin disease. This is with the DNG files. It refused to even open PEFs. -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exercising the K85/1.8
Well it's appreciated. We all learn a lot here. Paul On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: I enjoy it when I have the time. I'm learning when looking at everyone's photos. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Exercising the K85/1.8 Thanks Christine. I'm still rubbing my eyes. It's more than I had hoped for. You're a real trooper, young lady. Commenting on every pic. That's a lot of work, but it's certainly appreciated. Paul On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Paul: Very Sweet!!! I just can't get over the quality at these high ISOs. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8 Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron SP AF 2.8 28-75mm XR DI
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:07:11 -0400, Adam Maas wrote Nice shot. The Tamron's an excellent lens. Superior to the Tokina IMHO (I've owned both). -Adam I'd second that, I've had one for a few years now. I even bought a 70-300 LD Di to go with it after seeing how well a friends lens performed after I convinced him to buy a K10D instead of a darkside product. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
You are a brave man. I particularly like the shot of the Asian boy with the finger in his mouth. Paul On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Seeking lens advice
Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
The kit lens is marginal and is obviously too slow for many things. Your choice of the DA* zooms is a good one. While the DA21 is undoubtedly a good lens it's not nearly as wide as the DA* 16-50 not quite as fast, and it doesn't have the motor-in-lens autofocus. The DA* 50-135 is also considered a fine lens. Your Minolta lenses can't be used on the Pentax. On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote: Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 4-year-old ist D shot.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like it tight like that. bites tongue Dave The Juvenile -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
Marcus: I'm not the best one to talk equipment, but I did want to throw a vote for the DA* 50 - 135, which I own, and I like the lens quite a bit. It's quiet, smooth, 2.8 across the zoom range is very nice to have. It is a bit heavy, but with practice, I'll get better at hand-holding. Weight probably is not an issue for you. I definitely recommend this lens. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss List Mail PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Seeking lens advice Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
Godfrey: These are really lovely. Very, very nice. cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML List PDML@pdml.net; PAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SeePhoto Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
Thanks for the recommendation, Christine. Weight is indeed not an issue. I also found some positive reviews meanwhile, so I think I'll go and pick one up this afternoon. Marcus -- Am 11.03.2008 um 12:42 schrieb Christine Aguila: Marcus: I'm not the best one to talk equipment, but I did want to throw a vote for the DA* 50 - 135, which I own, and I like the lens quite a bit. It's quiet, smooth, 2.8 across the zoom range is very nice to have. It is a bit heavy, but with practice, I'll get better at hand-holding. Weight probably is not an issue for you. I definitely recommend this lens. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss List Mail PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Seeking lens advice Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
A version, but different usage, typically f5.6-8 at moderate distance, ambient light. The 18-55 is quite decent close up btw. -Adam On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking about near range usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful enough to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good at infinity or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn nice, not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like most A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than the 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due to lack of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on digital. Of course, I may have had a bad sample. -Adam On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I really liked except it was pretty heavy. My biggest problem is at my age the AF is almost a requirement anymore :-) Walt On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0 Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never get any annoying zoom creep and it holds focus perfectly when zooming. The F4 speed is a little slow but the lens is so contrasty that its easy to focus at 50mm ( I use a split image screen - third party model - in my *istDS ). Anyway, after you figure in the 1.5X lens factor you are left with a 35mm SLR equiv of 36mm to 75mm which is a very versatile super normal lens. This model is extremely contrasty, great color saturation, and freedom from flaring. It works beautifully for tabletop product photography. I have never needed wider or longer, as it has a pretty decent magnification at 50mm and min focus. The constant aperture (F4 thru the zoom range) is great when using manual full power flash like I like to do. Anyway, if you do a lot of ebay or similar product photography for web, I recommend this lens very highly. Much more versitile than a prime or macro 50mm with the 24m capability. I must add I have never used the stock 18-55mm that was sold with the camera, but I doubt it can match this lens, let alone beat it. Maybe it can? Anyone ever compared the two in the 24-50mm range? jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
Thank you very much for your opinon, Paul. -- Am 11.03.2008 um 12:03 schrieb Paul Stenquist: The kit lens is marginal and is obviously too slow for many things. Your choice of the DA* zooms is a good one. While the DA21 is undoubtedly a good lens it's not nearly as wide as the DA* 16-50 not quite as fast, and it doesn't have the motor-in-lens autofocus. The DA* 50-135 is also considered a fine lens. Your Minolta lenses can't be used on the Pentax. On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Marcus A. Hofmann wrote: Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Seeking lens advice
I would get a good 28mm prime. The sma-A F2.8 is nice if you like manual focus, the later F and FA versions would do if you want AF. But in any case a 28mm prime is very useful/high quality on DSLR. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus A. Hofmann Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:51 AM To: Pentax-Discuss List Mail Subject: Seeking lens advice Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Stepping Out For Chinese
These two young ladies didn't let the recent snowstorm stop them from heading out for dinner at one of Toronto Chinatown's many restaurants. http://tinyurl.com/3aste3 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9Z-xRWq0SI/Brk/p-tT3b-rmzU/s1600-h/mar_10_08+005.jpg I like the smile peeking out from under the canopy... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank actually would probably enjoy the show, it's mostly BW street work, at Gorilla Monsoon this month ;-) He was a wrestler at one time, was he not.:-) snip No, I've never wrestled. Great shot, Adam! You really captured the pub atmosphere. Where's Gorilla Monsoon? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. Outstanding essay!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stepping Out For Chinese
The smile is good. The tone of that entire photo would lean toward dark and gloomy and that little smile flips the entire mood. frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/11/2008 8:56 AM These two young ladies didn't let the recent snowstorm stop them from heading out for dinner at one of Toronto Chinatown's many restaurants. http://tinyurl.com/3aste3 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9Z-xRWq0SI/Brk/p-tT3b-rmzU/s1600-h/mar_10_08+005.jpg I like the smile peeking out from under the canopy... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47d681a3241446868414482! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg Wonderful shot. I don't think you could take a bad photo of Grace. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the disciple
Rick Womer wrote: Rabbit ears? A disciple of Knarf? Gosh, I didn't even know he had a following! The first pic is very grainy and the angle is awkward. I like the second one mostly for its context. Thanks, Rick. Dektol does that. :) P.S. - I thought there was a brand new bottle of HC-110 around here somewhere, but when I couldn't find it I settled on the Dektol to get through my boat load of film. The HC-110 turned up night before last. Go figure. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the disciple
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Neither of these pictures do much for me, sorry. Not a problem at all. I appreciate you taking the time to look. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - the disciple
frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of kid pics. Expired Tri-X in Dektol. I shot these well over a year ago, probably with the MX and either the M 50/1.7 or 35/2.8. I think. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/MeganAndMolly/photo#5175852803846950770 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/MeganAndMolly/photo#5175855647115300738 Thanks for looking! I like the first one. I don't know why, I just do. I really like the grain. When I took these pictures I remember thinking that the disciple would be a funny title. Christie liked the first one better, too. Thanks, Frank! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A few more from GFM 2007
Christine Aguila wrote: Scott, nice photos of some nice guys on the list. Mark, you know, you look a little like Ron Howard in this photo. Cheers, Christine Thanks! I won't tell Mark you said that. ;) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8
Oh, I can take a bad photo of anyone. But I don't show them here:-)). Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg Wonderful shot. I don't think you could take a bad photo of Grace. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A few more from GFM 2007
frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days ago I found a box of unprocessed black and white. Plus, I had a few rolls recently exposed. So I've been doing a lot of donkey work the past two days trying to get it all souped and sleeved. These 3 are from GFM last year. Mamiya C220 and Tri-X. These two are shots of Mark Roberts. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GrandfatherMountainNPW2007/photo#5175932411065782162 http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GrandfatherMountainNPW2007/photo#5175932415360749474 And the list guy. http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/GrandfatherMountainNPW2007/photo#5175932415360749490 Great. Now I'll have to poke my eyes out with a sharp stick. Thanks for that! HA! cheers, frank ;-) PS: seriously, nice shots! Thanks, Frank. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A few more from GFM 2007
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:45 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did Mark lose his hair? He never lost it. In fact he's saved every strand of it. It's in a plastic bag up in a closet somewhere... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. Outstanding essay!! What Frank said. When did you start using Flickr? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
Or maturing, like a fine Burgundy, in the PDML cellar... --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gawd. I sent that message at least a week ago. It's been gestating in the PDML cesspool. Paul On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:00 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Ok i admit. I had a set of green swede Beatle boots. Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great stuff. I had three leisure suits. One green, one ivory and one baby blue. I also had several floral shirts and a sheer white shirtwith puffy sleeves that was open to the navel. A chick magnet! :-)) In the late sixties I had a pair of bell bottom jeans witth LOVE embroidered on the zipper. Good stuff! Paul -- Original message -- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/3/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills- photos.html This is too funny for words. Oh boy, tears and breathlessness - thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work
I've calibrated our G5 iMac (PowerPC version), 13 in MacBook, HP nc8230, and a Dell 24 in LCD monitor with mine, and it has worked very well on all of them. Are you sure you loaded the right software? The original Huey came with software not compatible with Intel-powered Macs. The Huey Pro software shouldn't be a problem, though. Rick --- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 7, 2008, at 22:01, Rick Womer wrote: One can buy a Huey Pro for $110 from BH. It takes a minute to install, about a minute to run, and then you have a monitor that looks =the same= as any other calibrated monitor. It is vastly superior to software calibration. Actually, I just tried a Huey Pro on my 13 Macbook and I ended up with a display that looked like it had had pink nail polish poured all over it. (I borrowed it from a guy sitting next to me in the office) It works like a champ on his displays - but not on my screen, for some reason. :-( I'll try it again with all of the lights out just to make sure that it didn't get some sort of read from the flourescent lights overhead (although why it works in the same room with HIS displays is a mystery). -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
I really like the first 3 photos in that gallery. The fourth you might try cropping vertically right down the middle, preserving the left half. The fifth brings back bad parental memories of melt-down time. The sixth has a distracting lump of unidentifiable flesh that the adult's hand is on. Why Flickr? I hate the way it presents galleries. Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the SF Zoo on Saturday, it was all about children it seemed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157604091189728/ Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stepping Out For Chinese
The smile makes it work. To niggle a bit, it would be nice if three of their four feet hadn't been amputated. Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These two young ladies didn't let the recent snowstorm stop them from heading out for dinner at one of Toronto Chinatown's many restaurants. http://tinyurl.com/3aste3 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9Z-xRWq0SI/Brk/p-tT3b-rmzU/s1600-h/mar_10_08+005.jpg I like the smile peeking out from under the canopy... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stepping Out For Chinese
Well caught, Frank! The smile makes all the difference. Appears to me that she is protecting her purse from that shady looking person with the camera.(?) ;) Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These two young ladies didn't let the recent snowstorm stop them from heading out for dinner at one of Toronto Chinatown's many restaurants. http://tinyurl.com/3aste3 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9Z-xRWq0SI/Brk/p-tT3b-rmzU/s1600-h/mar_10_08+005.jpg I like the smile peeking out from under the canopy... ;-) Comments welcome. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs gripes: K20D Tamron 70-210
Tim Bray wrote: To be precise, a Tamron SP, 70-210mm 3.5, and it worked perfectly with the *ist-D. It's not perhaps the creme de la creme of telephoto zooms, but it's taken some good pictures for me: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/05/07/Sports-Photog This one is excellent. Besides the action and flying hair, what really caught my attention is the fun that's going on. It's nice to see to children really enjoying the game. Great shot, Tim. I'll let the others comment on the technical aspects. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Just for comparison - The Grabber
On 3/11/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank actually would probably enjoy the show, it's mostly BW street work, at Gorilla Monsoon this month ;-) He was a wrestler at one time, was he not.:-) snip No, I've never wrestled. Great shot, Adam! You really captured the pub atmosphere. Where's Gorilla Monsoon? cheers, frank Thanks Frank, I rather enjoy shooting in bars, but rarely post it here. It's right next to the Horseshoe on Queen West. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work
On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:00, Rick Womer wrote: I've calibrated our G5 iMac (PowerPC version), 13 in MacBook, HP nc8230, and a Dell 24 in LCD monitor with mine, and it has worked very well on all of them. Are you sure you loaded the right software? The original Huey came with software not compatible with Intel-powered Macs. The Huey Pro software shouldn't be a problem, though. 'twas indeed the Huey Pro software. I'm going to try it again in a different room later today (or maybe just drape my jacked over the screen??), just to make sure there wasn't something about the ambient lighting which could have somehow been throwing it off. It is most curious! Again, the other panel 10 feet away from me (a Dell 19 flatscreen hooked up to a Macbook Pro) worked like a champ and looks quite good. I wish there was a simple way to show you just how far off it got me. It was truly vile! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work
On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've calibrated our G5 iMac (PowerPC version), 13 in MacBook, HP nc8230, and a Dell 24 in LCD monitor with mine, and it has worked very well on all of them. Are you sure you loaded the right software? The original Huey came with software not compatible with Intel-powered Macs. The Huey Pro software shouldn't be a problem, though. 'twas indeed the Huey Pro software. I'm going to try it again in a different room later today (or maybe just drape my jacked over the screen??), just to make sure there wasn't something about the ambient lighting which could have somehow been throwing it off. It is most curious! Again, the other panel 10 feet away from me (a Dell 19 flatscreen hooked up to a Macbook Pro) worked like a champ and looks quite good. I wish there was a simple way to show you just how far off it got me. It was truly vile! :-) I had some problems with an earlier generation of the Huey calibration unit. I heard rumors of difficulties with the new LED illuminated screen technology in the MacBooks, but haven't followed whether it was resolved. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 19-24 - GDG
Thanks for all the comments! ... When did you start using Flickr? About a month or so back, my local photo group moderator opened an account on flickr.com for photo sharing. I started using it then. While I'm not totally delighted with it as a presentation vehicle, as a photo-sharing site it has some good features. It's certainly accessible and has a large number of people looking at it, a lot of activity. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
Minolta lenses cannot be used on Pentax mount. I have both the DA* zooms. They are both excellent quality performers. I tend to use primes for the shorter focal lengths, however, because I prefer their more compact size and better handling. I use the DA21 and FA43, supplemented occasionaly by the DA14 for that ultra-wide view, much much more than the DA*16-50. A kit comprised of the 21, 40, and 50-135 would be virtually identical to what I find myself using most of the time. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quickie Mac screen calibration software which seems to work
Just did a quick Google search. Apparently the Huey Pro plays nicely with some MacBook screens and not others--not clear what the difference is. Charles, I suggest you contact Pantone customer support at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, you can read this on their web site: http://tinyurl.com/2vd4u7 Good luck, Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 11, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: I've calibrated our G5 iMac (PowerPC version), 13 in MacBook, HP nc8230, and a Dell 24 in LCD monitor with mine, and it has worked very well on all of them. Are you sure you loaded the right software? The original Huey came with software not compatible with Intel-powered Macs. The Huey Pro software shouldn't be a problem, though. 'twas indeed the Huey Pro software. I'm going to try it again in a different room later today (or maybe just drape my jacked over the screen??), just to make sure there wasn't something about the ambient lighting which could have somehow been throwing it off. It is most curious! Again, the other panel 10 feet away from me (a Dell 19 flatscreen hooked up to a Macbook Pro) worked like a champ and looks quite good. I wish there was a simple way to show you just how far off it got me. It was truly vile! :-) I had some problems with an earlier generation of the Huey calibration unit. I heard rumors of difficulties with the new LED illuminated screen technology in the MacBooks, but haven't followed whether it was resolved. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GFM 2008
Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Technique
Trying something different. Have a look at this: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html R-D1 + 28mm lens (same angle of view as 42mm lens on full frame 35mm) Then take this simple test: 1. What is noticeable about the picture? 2. How do you think it was achieved? Ta. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
yes On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb Luckily, there are not photos left of me with my mullet and too-tight Yes t-shirt... cheers, frank No problem. We got Photoshop. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. I shoot almost exclusively with the adorable little 40mm pancake and the almost-as-adorable 21mm 3.2. I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. For mountains, you totally can't beat the pure 21mm wide-angle. -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb Luckily, there are not photos left of me with my mullet and too-tight Yes t-shirt... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
I tried the A version on K10D this summer. I´ve had it since the mid 80s and it has been great with film, but compared to my primes in that range it wasn´t not sharp enough for my use on K10D. My DA*16-50 is much better. DagT Den 11. mars. 2008 kl. 04.22 skrev J. C. O'Connell: Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking about near range usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful enough to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good at infinity or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn nice, not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like most A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than the 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due to lack of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on digital. Of course, I may have had a bad sample. -Adam On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I really liked except it was pretty heavy. My biggest problem is at my age the AF is almost a requirement anymore :-) Walt On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0 Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never get any annoying zoom creep and it holds focus perfectly when zooming. The F4 speed is a little slow but the lens is so contrasty that its easy to focus at 50mm ( I use a split image screen - third party model - in my *istDS ). Anyway, after you figure in the 1.5X lens factor you are left with a 35mm SLR equiv of 36mm to 75mm which is a very versatile super normal lens. This model is extremely contrasty, great color saturation, and freedom from flaring. It works beautifully for tabletop product photography. I have never needed wider or longer, as it has a pretty decent magnification at 50mm and min focus. The constant aperture (F4 thru the zoom range) is great when using manual full power flash like I like to do. Anyway, if you do a lot of ebay or similar product photography for web, I recommend this lens very highly. Much more versitile than a prime or macro 50mm with the 24m capability. I must add I have never used the stock 18-55mm that was sold with the camera, but I doubt it can match this lens, let alone beat it. Maybe it can? Anyone ever compared the two in the 24-50mm range? jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. -T On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
On 11/3/08, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed: Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. Here you go: http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Exercising the K85/1.8
So you say :-) Seriously, though - that's a great little lens. Shel had one in his kit when he tried out my *ist D, and it came very close to overturning my FA or later resolution for new accquisitions. On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 01:42:47PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I can take a bad photo of anyone. But I don't show them here:-)). Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying some of my manual lenses with the K20D. I shot this with the K85/1.8. ISO 1600, f2.8, 1/125th. Love this lens. I use it with a metal hood from the Super Tak 200/4 on a step up ring. Makes a nice unit, and of course even that long hood won't vignette on the K20 sensor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7040595size=lg Wonderful shot. I don't think you could take a bad photo of Grace. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Tim Bray wrote: Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. -T GFM refers to Grandfather Mountain in general, and with this crowd, the Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend specifically. http://grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php The GFM NPW is the de facto annual gathering of the PDML and frequently includes members from across the US, Canada, Europe and Australia. I've made the trip the last two years and met some wonderful people. It's nice to put faces to the names. Cameras and lenses flow freely, and if Cesar is present you probably don't even need to bring one of your own. Well worth the trip, IMHO. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
I always plan on going and never make it. But I will try again. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
Thanks, Godfrey. I was thinking along the same lines. I am really satisfied with the images the DA 40 produces, and if the DA 21 comes close, I'd rather save the extra cash on the DA* 16-50, since I already have the DA 40. Marcus -- Am 11.03.2008 um 16:14 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: Minolta lenses cannot be used on Pentax mount. I have both the DA* zooms. They are both excellent quality performers. I tend to use primes for the shorter focal lengths, however, because I prefer their more compact size and better handling. I use the DA21 and FA43, supplemented occasionaly by the DA14 for that ultra-wide view, much much more than the DA*16-50. A kit comprised of the 21, 40, and 50-135 would be virtually identical to what I find myself using most of the time. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
Did you burn them or did they simply sink into the ooze... frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-olan-mills-photos.html This is too funny for words. William Robb Luckily, there are not photos left of me with my mullet and too-tight Yes t-shirt... cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seeking lens advice
No, there's a fair difference between those two lenses. The 28 would perform on the K200D like the 40 would on a 35mm body, not like the 40mm does on the K200D. The crop factor always applies as focal length is focal length. The only difference between a 40mm FF lens and 40mm DA lens is the latter won't necessarily cover a 35mm frame. Ironically, the DA 40mm is actually a 35mm full-frame design, being an update of the SMC-M 40mm f2.8 Pancake (albeit a very thorouhg update, the original did not use Aspherical elements). -Adam On 3/11/08, Marcus A. Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your thoughts, j.c. I am just thinking that a full-frame 28mm prime would perform like a, well, somewhere around 50mm prime with the K200D's smaller sensor. That would be awfully close to the DA 40 that I already have, and I am not sure if I really need two primes with such similar focal lengths. But I can see the idea behind it. It's appreciated. Marcus -- Am 11.03.2008 um 13:35 schrieb J. C. O'Connell: I would get a good 28mm prime. The sma-A F2.8 is nice if you like manual focus, the later F and FA versions would do if you want AF. But in any case a 28mm prime is very useful/high quality on DSLR. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus A. Hofmann Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:51 AM To: Pentax-Discuss List Mail Subject: Seeking lens advice Hello. I have recently bought a new K200D. I did photograph a lot until about 15 years ago, but have only used p+s cameras since then. So I figured the K200D would be more than sufficient to get back into photography. I am actually very satisfied with the camera. But the bundled 18-55mm/3.5-5.8 lens is kind of dissapointing, especially when compared to the 40mm/f2.8 limited that I also bought with the camera (mainly beacuse it was so cute), which produces beautifully sharp and crisp images. So I am now stuck with the 40mm prime and need to buy some more glass. My old analog setup contained a 50mm/1.4 Minolta prime (which I still own), a 28-85mm/2.8-something Minolta and a 100-400mm Minolta that I loved (but which I sold). I've been digging around a little and come up with the following lenses that seem like what I want, and I'd like to ask those of you that own one of these for their opinions. Alternatives are also welcome. smc DA* 50-135mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM and smc DA* 16-50mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM or smc DA 21mm/3,2 ED [IF] SDM I might also get something like the smc DA* 200mm/2,8 ED [IF] SDM later, depending on how much I'll actually use the camera. So I was wondering if the image quality of the 16-50mm/2,8 is comparable to that of the 40mm/2,8 limited, or if I should rather go with the 21mm and 40mm limiteds instead of the 16-50mm zoom. Is the 50-135mm worth the money, and are there alternatives? I like the fact that it is weather sealed a lot. Can I use the old 50mm/1.4 Minolta (from the late 80's) on the K200D with an adaptor? Is that recommendable? I might add that I will be taking the thing into the mountains a lot, and I like to sit in a cafe on a sunday and shoot passers by in the street. Thanks for any advice. Marcus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
We can't tell you until you learn the secret hand shake. Tim Bray wrote: Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. -T On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm embarrassed to be a product of the 70s
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:03 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you burn them or did they simply sink into the ooze... In old yearbooks somewhere (mine are long-since lost). I suppose there may be some old classmates who still have their copy, but I haven't been in contact with old highschool friends in decades, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stepping Out For Chinese
On Mar 11, 2008, at 5:56 AM, frank theriault wrote: These two young ladies didn't let the recent snowstorm stop them from heading out for dinner at one of Toronto Chinatown's many restaurants. http://tinyurl.com/3aste3 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R9Z-xRWq0SI/Brk/p-tT3b- rmzU/s1600-h/mar_10_08+005.jpg I like this, but if you're going to go tight, crop tighter. The turn signal up above is unnecessarily distracting. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Alas, no. I'll be in Chicago on business that weekend. Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Hey, we haven't taught him the secret hand shake yet. Cotty wrote: On 11/3/08, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed: Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. Here you go: http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 25 - GDG
On Sunday, I rode BART into SF for a visit to the Coit Tower. This father and his son had great faces ... we talked for a bit, then junior got all excited about something on the wall ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/25-dadnson.jpg Dad And Son - BART 2008 Panasonic L1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 400 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25, FL=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
P. J. Alling wrote: Hey, we haven't taught him the secret hand shake yet. There's a secret handshake? I want my money back for the last two GFMs. Cotty wrote: On 11/3/08, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed: Newbies wonder what GFM2008 is... Google turns up only pointers into PDML. Here you go: http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 25 - GDG
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, I rode BART into SF for a visit to the Coit Tower. This father and his son had great faces ... we talked for a bit, then junior got all excited about something on the wall ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/25-dadnson.jpg Dad And Son - BART 2008 Panasonic L1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 400 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25, FL=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey The father's expression is far more interesting to me (even though I can't say I know what it means). Wonderful photo, terrific rendering (as usual). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 25 - GDG
I really like this one. Interesting composition, and it tells a story. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, I rode BART into SF for a visit to the Coit Tower. This father and his son had great faces ... we talked for a bit, then junior got all excited about something on the wall ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/25-dadnson.jpg Dad And Son - BART 2008 Panasonic L1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 400 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25, FL=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
that's good to know but are you talking much sharper at F11-F22? I cant see how there would be a big difference in that range, the A24-50 is really good in that range on digital size sensor. The A24-50 is also much smaller and lighter tha the 16-50 isnt it? That matters to me when the camera is hanging on my neck for long periods... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? I tried the A version on K10D this summer. I´ve had it since the mid 80s and it has been great with film, but compared to my primes in that range it wasn´t not sharp enough for my use on K10D. My DA*16-50 is much better. DagT Den 11. mars. 2008 kl. 04.22 skrev J. C. O'Connell: Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking about near range usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful enough to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good at infinity or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn nice, not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like most A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than the 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due to lack of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on digital. Of course, I may have had a bad sample. -Adam On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I really liked except it was pretty heavy. My biggest problem is at my age the AF is almost a requirement anymore :-) Walt On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0 Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never get any annoying zoom creep and it holds focus perfectly when zooming. The F4 speed is a little slow but the lens is so contrasty that its easy to focus at 50mm ( I use a split image screen - third party model - in my *istDS ). Anyway, after you figure in the 1.5X lens factor you are left with a 35mm SLR equiv of 36mm to 75mm which is a very versatile super normal lens. This model is extremely contrasty, great color saturation, and freedom from flaring. It works beautifully for tabletop product photography. I have never needed wider or longer, as it has a pretty decent magnification at 50mm and min focus. The constant aperture (F4 thru the zoom range) is great when using manual full power flash like I like to do. Anyway, if you do a lot of ebay or similar product photography for web, I recommend this lens very highly. Much more versitile than a prime or macro 50mm with the 24m capability. I must add I have never used the stock 18-55mm that was sold with the camera, but I doubt it can match this lens, let alone beat it. Maybe it can? Anyone ever compared the two in the 24-50mm range? jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? I still don't know. I wanted to. In fact, I still want to, but I'm becoming more involved in this thing: http://cmwc2008.com/ Which is like two weeks after GFM. Looks like I'll be curating at bike messengers' art show (except that I don't know how to curate, but don't tell anyone). Things could be pretty hectic in the weeks leading up to it, and I still haven't decided on whether I can fit GFM in there - I do hope so, though. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
At f13 and smaller you're hitting the diffraction limits of the sensor/lens combo and giving up quality. Unless DoF is an issue, there's no good reason to stop down past f11 on 1.5x crop digital. The 16-50 will outperform the 24-50 at apertures where diffraction limits are not an issue. -Adam On 3/11/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's good to know but are you talking much sharper at F11-F22? I cant see how there would be a big difference in that range, the A24-50 is really good in that range on digital size sensor. The A24-50 is also much smaller and lighter tha the 16-50 isnt it? That matters to me when the camera is hanging on my neck for long periods... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? I tried the A version on K10D this summer. I´ve had it since the mid 80s and it has been great with film, but compared to my primes in that range it wasn´t not sharp enough for my use on K10D. My DA*16-50 is much better. DagT Den 11. mars. 2008 kl. 04.22 skrev J. C. O'Connell: Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking about near range usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful enough to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good at infinity or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn nice, not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like most A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than the 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due to lack of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on digital. Of course, I may have had a bad sample. -Adam On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I really liked except it was pretty heavy. My biggest problem is at my age the AF is almost a requirement anymore :-) Walt On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0 Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never get any annoying zoom creep and it holds focus perfectly when zooming. The F4 speed is a little slow but the lens is so contrasty that its easy to focus at 50mm ( I use a split image screen - third party model - in my *istDS ). Anyway, after you figure in the 1.5X lens factor you are left with a 35mm SLR equiv of 36mm to 75mm which is a very versatile super normal lens. This model is extremely contrasty, great color saturation, and freedom from flaring. It works beautifully for tabletop product photography. I have never needed wider or longer, as it has a pretty decent magnification at 50mm and min focus. The constant aperture (F4 thru the zoom range) is great when using manual full power flash like I like to do. Anyway, if you do a lot of ebay or similar product photography for web, I recommend this lens very highly. Much more versitile than a prime or macro 50mm with the 24m capability. I must add I have never used the stock 18-55mm that was sold with the camera, but I doubt it can match this lens, let alone beat it. Maybe it can? Anyone ever compared the two in the 24-50mm range? jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Hey you'll have two whole weeks to rest up before hand, and you should get back in plenty of time unless homeland security decides to detain you as an undesirable lawyer... frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? I still don't know. I wanted to. In fact, I still want to, but I'm becoming more involved in this thing: http://cmwc2008.com/ Which is like two weeks after GFM. Looks like I'll be curating at bike messengers' art show (except that I don't know how to curate, but don't tell anyone). Things could be pretty hectic in the weeks leading up to it, and I still haven't decided on whether I can fit GFM in there - I do hope so, though. cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cool image viewing plugin for Firefox
http://www.piclens.com/site/firefox/win/ Try it out at a supported site. It's rather nifty. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - OCR software
Hey, gang. I have stacks upon stacks of handwritten and typed pages that I'd like to digitize. My scanner came with some OCR software, Omnipage SE, I think, but I've lost the CD. Do any of you use OCR software and can you recommend something? Thanks! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Churchyard
One from a walk today. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic47.html R-D1 + 28mm Ultron 2.8 handheld ISO400 1/15th at f8 PS CS with Power Retouche mono conv. Comments and corpses welcome. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 26 - GDG
Been doing a lot of work, the posting backlog is deep, but I'll stop here for a bit. :-) http://homepage.mac.com/godders/26-stick.jpg Stick - Ground Signs 2008 Panasonic L1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 100 @ f/5.6 @ 1/30 sec, fl=11 Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Handheld around midnight
http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Churchyard
On Mar 11, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Cotty wrote: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic47.html Very elegant and sensual tones. Nicely done. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cool image viewing plugin for Firefox
Adam Maas wrote: http://www.piclens.com/site/firefox/win/ Try it out at a supported site. It's rather nifty. This is a very cool plug-in. It is especially useful with large Flickr photostreams. Thanks for posting the link. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Excellent shot. -Adam On 3/11/08, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
knarF - I get a cannot find Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM 2008 On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's planning on going? I still don't know. I wanted to. In fact, I still want to, but I'm becoming more involved in this thing: http://cmwc2008.com/ Which is like two weeks after GFM. Looks like I'll be curating at bike messengers' art show (except that I don't know how to curate, but don't tell anyone). Things could be pretty hectic in the weeks leading up to it, and I still haven't decided on whether I can fit GFM in there - I do hope so, though. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Churchyard
Nice image. I like the replication of the 2 trees 2 crosses. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Churchyard One from a walk today. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic47.html R-D1 + 28mm Ultron 2.8 handheld ISO400 1/15th at f8 PS CS with Power Retouche mono conv. Comments and corpses welcome. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? : Correction
DOF is ALWAYS an issue with product photography which is what I really meant to say instead of general purpose. I just find the 24-50 in the F11toF22 range with product photography to be ideal and I know how good good is I also have the A50/2.8 Macro which is stunningly good but you only can see it in a 6Mp image , not the ebay stuff I am doing. On second thought I ahould give it another proviso. The A24-50 is probably the best lens out there for EBAY PRODUCT photos in terms of overall quality and versatility for the job, and it's a small package no less. I first started using the 50mmA/2.8 macro but sometimes I was forced to change to 28 or 35mm lenses because the object was too large for my studio when using the 50. I then switched to a fantastic cult classic, my 35-70 Tokina AT-X F2.8 constant. Way more versatile than a fixed 50mm for ebay product shots. I occasionally still needed to go wider than 35mm and then finally switched to the A24-50/4. Its contrasty enough to easily focus at 50 and then zoom back to need AOV. I have learned by distance the correct fstops with the full on manual on board flash of the istDS. I am getting exposures in the F8 to F22 range, mostly F16 and the DOF at that f-stop and focal range is very good for my needs. And Im getting that kind of exposure at ISO200 which is best speed for the camera. I also find that the extreme DOF makes the focus less critical which is always good for speeding up the shooting process, there are never any shots/time wasted for being out of focus ever. Sharpness at F16 is still pretty damn good on this lens, no, not as good as a good lens at a wider f-stop but more than sufficient for the job at hand. I actually enjoy doing ebay shooting now, when I was using an AF digital point and shoot, I dreaded it. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? At f13 and smaller you're hitting the diffraction limits of the sensor/lens combo and giving up quality. Unless DoF is an issue, there's no good reason to stop down past f11 on 1.5x crop digital. The 16-50 will outperform the 24-50 at apertures where diffraction limits are not an issue. -Adam On 3/11/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's good to know but are you talking much sharper at F11-F22? I cant see how there would be a big difference in that range, the A24-50 is really good in that range on digital size sensor. The A24-50 is also much smaller and lighter tha the 16-50 isnt it? That matters to me when the camera is hanging on my neck for long periods... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? I tried the A version on K10D this summer. I´ve had it since the mid 80s and it has been great with film, but compared to my primes in that range it wasn´t not sharp enough for my use on K10D. My DA*16-50 is much better. DagT Den 11. mars. 2008 kl. 04.22 skrev J. C. O'Connell: Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking about near range usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful enough to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good at infinity or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn nice, not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like most A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GREAT general purpose Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS? Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than the 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due to lack of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on digital. Of course, I may have had a bad sample. -Adam On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I really liked except it was pretty heavy. My biggest problem is at my age the AF is almost a requirement anymore :-) Walt On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0 Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never get any annoying zoom creep and it holds focus perfectly when zooming. The
Re: GFM 2008
Not this year. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GFM 2008 Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Very nice capture. Great exposure. Technical details ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Handheld around midnight http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Oooh, tasty. Wonderful. -T On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice capture. Great exposure. Technical details ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Handheld around midnight http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
All is there in the EXIF :D K10D, Porst MC Color Reflex f1.2 55mm @f1.2 1/15sec ISO320 From RAW and I think the sky is noisy because the fill light. Cheers, Timber Ken Waller wrote: Very nice capture. Great exposure. Technical details ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Handheld around midnight http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Tamron SP AF 2.8 28-75mm XR DI
Thanks a lot, Paul, Ken, Adam and John. I'm glad I seem to have made a good choise. Also the Tamron is lighter and smaller, but of cource doesn't go with my MZ-S, which I very rarely use :-) Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af John Whittingham Sendt: 11. marts 2008 10:42 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Tamron SP AF 2.8 28-75mm XR DI On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:07:11 -0400, Adam Maas wrote Nice shot. The Tamron's an excellent lens. Superior to the Tokina IMHO (I've owned both). -Adam I'd second that, I've had one for a few years now. I even bought a 70-300 LD Di to go with it after seeing how well a friends lens performed after I convinced him to buy a K10D instead of a darkside product. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1324 - Release Date: 10-03-2008 19:27 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
On Mar 11, 2008, at 14:27, Timber wrote: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D That looks quite cool. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Love it. Amazing shot. It's almost perfectly symmetrical. You could make it just that by cropping some of the left, although you might also have to clone out part of that first lamp on the left. Perhaps that wouldn't be a plus. Then again, maybe it would. -- Original message -- From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Timber wrote: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 Nice and sharp appearing for a 1/15 second exposure. Composition wise, it is a classical perspective photo. Nicely done! Godfrey This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Timber wrote: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D Beautiful shot, Timber. Is that in Budapest? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Churchyard
Cotty: Very nice. Lovely lines. Good eye here. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: PESO - Churchyard One from a walk today. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic47.html R-D1 + 28mm Ultron 2.8 handheld ISO400 1/15th at f8 PS CS with Power Retouche mono conv. Comments and corpses welcome. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Churchyard
Oh yes, that's the sapling effect I've heard about! WOW! Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One from a walk today. http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic47.html R-D1 + 28mm Ultron 2.8 handheld ISO400 1/15th at f8 PS CS with Power Retouche mono conv. Comments and corpses welcome. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM 2008
Probably not. Maybe next year. Sounds like fun it would be VERY good to meet everyone. I would enjoy that. Some very nice folks on the list. BTW, Scott, I was looking at the previous PUG Galleries noticed the Synchronization Project. Any way we might do that for 2008? Just a thought. Project looks like fun. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: GFM 2008 Who's planning on going? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 25 - GDG
Good one, Godfrey. Great facial expressions. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PDML List PDML@pdml.net; PAW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SeePhoto Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: PESO 2008 - 25 - GDG On Sunday, I rode BART into SF for a visit to the Coit Tower. This father and his son had great faces ... we talked for a bit, then junior got all excited about something on the wall ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/25-dadnson.jpg Dad And Son - BART 2008 Panasonic L1 + ZD 11-22/2.8-3.5 ISO 400 @ f/5.6 @ 1/25, FL=11mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Handheld around midnight
Timber: That's one terrific photo. Light, exposure, composition, subject all work perfectly--and hand-held to boot! You clearly demonstrate very steady technique. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Handheld around midnight http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/94028814 This was made handheld with the f1.2 Porst. Did I told you I love this lens? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
