Re: Mac Noob Question

2008-10-06 Thread David Mann

On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Cotty wrote:


There's a really simple way to avoid iPhoto and manage your pictures
manually, with no hindrance from iPhoto, and you still get to see your
pics using 'Preview' (a small application that lets you view pictures
that comes with the OS).


FWIW the built-in Quick Look feature is very good if you have 10.5  
(Leopard).


You can use Preview to make simple adjustments (eg resize, rotate).   
Anything more than that and I'll use Photoshop so iPhoto is a bit  
redundant for me too.


- Dave


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RE: AF why

2008-10-06 Thread John Coyle
On my *istD, I use it mainly when I have a dedicated auto flash fitted: it
spurs the flash into reading the lens data and setting its coverage to the
selected focal length of the lens - at least when it's a zoom lens.

HTH


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It dawned on me that of all the buttons on the back of the K20, the
 one I've never ever hit is AF.  Its effect seems identical to
 squeezing the shutter a bit.  So I went and looked around in the
 manual; it entirely escapes me why this button exists and what you'd
 use it for.  So obviously I'm missing something... -T

 I discussed this with some of my former camera sales coworkers a couple
 years ago, and we came to the unscientific conclusion that it's there to
 appease the easily-impressed consumer who just likes having more buttons.

 It's entirely possible that the button has awesome, photo-changing
features
 (such as ugly face fixer, suspicion reducer, or perhaps even clothes
 remover), but I too have never used it.



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RE: Windows question

2008-10-06 Thread John Coyle
You'll find this will happen if you have two versions of some MS programs,
including Access, on the PC.  It's nothing to worry about, but you may want
to remove the older version to stop it happening.  Could it be an issue
where you have a beta version installed as well as the regular one?

HTH


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: Windows question

My computer has suddenly come up with a weird quirk.

Whenever I open a program, or try to follow a link, I get a dialog box
saying Windows Installer and inside the dialog box I see preparing
to install.  Aftrer an intermible dealy, what ever I've tried to
enter finally opens.

Any suggestions?

Bill

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RE: Off Topic: Question of literature

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
 
  Aldous Huxley is also a good suggestion - he was influenced
strongly
  by Yevgeny Zamytatin ('We'). George Orwell, too. Although they
only
  use 'sci-fi' loosely as a mechanism for political comment, 
 the writing
  is exceptional. Especially Orwell's - I consider him to be 
 one of the
  top maybe 10 writers of English since the 16th century.
 
 +1. :-) apart from animal farm and of course 1984, there's 
 this essay i
 read (long back) on shooting an elephant in burma or 
 something close to
 that (title) which was just brilliant. have to hunt it up again
 

it's called Shooting An Elephant. Very good essay. Back in the 70s you
could get a 4-volume set of his collected essays, journalism and
letters, which I had. I was a teenager at the time and I can't even
begin to describe how important an influence on me those volumes were.
They have also been very important politically in Britain, and
particularly in England. To me his political thought is socialism at
its very best, with a particularly English flavour. Revolution with a
teapot.

Bob


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Re: Off Topic: Question of literature

2008-10-06 Thread Subash
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Subash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 +1. :-) apart from animal farm and of course 1984, there's this essay i
 read (long back) on shooting an elephant in burma or something close to
 that (title) which was just brilliant. have to hunt it up again

bless the Net. :-) while my copies of animal farm and 1984 are lying
irretrievable for the present in a carton somewhere in the house, i
did manage to find the shorter essay here. for those who might be
interested, the essay 'shooting an elephant':

http://orwell.ru/library/articles/elephant/english/e_eleph

regards, subash

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Re: Off Topic: Question of literature

2008-10-06 Thread Subash
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 it's called Shooting An Elephant. Very good essay. Back in the 70s you
 could get a 4-volume set of his collected essays, journalism and
 letters, which I had. I was a teenager at the time and I can't even
 begin to describe how important an influence on me those volumes were.
 They have also been very important politically in Britain, and
 particularly in England. To me his political thought is socialism at
 its very best, with a particularly English flavour. Revolution with a
 teapot.

almost the same story here. was around 18 when i first read him in the
early eighties and he was an important influence. of course when one
is 18, almost every other thing you stumble across seems
earth-shattering, but orwell has retained his appeal down the years.

are his works (the essays) out of print?

regards, subash

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Re: Stolen Equipment

2008-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/05 Sun AM 01:15:07 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Stolen Equipment
 
 
 Thank you, William A., John Francis, Mike Wilson, John Sessoms, P.J.,  
 Boris, Cotty, Derby, Godfrey, Doug, Bob Sullivan, Christine, and  
 anyone I missed for your thoughts re: my pain and anger at my  
 stupidity in the loss of most of my best (older) gear.

Much as it goes against the grain (but you could use it to castigate 
yourself...) you could advertise the offer of a reward for its return.


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-06 Thread AlunFoto
You Americans...
Eating green beans and baked potato off a bumper?

Sheesh...

:-)

Jostein


2008/10/6 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There's a place for all God's creatures, Right here next to the green beans
 and baked potato. -bumper sticker

 CW

 Paul Sorenson wrote:

 PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

 -p

 P. J. Alling wrote:

 Doug Franklin wrote:

 AlunFoto wrote:

 2008/10/2 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Someone once said, I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a
 vegetarian because I hate plants!

 Lol.

 Another definition: A vegetarian refuse to eat animals he can see
 without a microscope.

 I saw an /awesome/ t-shirt this weekend:

Eating meat is murder.
 Yummy, Yummy murder.

 If God didn't want us to ear animals, he wouldn't have made them out of
 meat.

 or

 There's room in this world for all of God's creatures,
 on the plate right next to the mashed potatoes.



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RE: When you've gotta go...

2008-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/05 Sun PM 07:15:00 GMT
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 Subject: RE: When you've gotta go...
 
 Having returned from Fez only 4 hours ago I know just how he feels...
 
 Bob 

She.  You went there for a sex change?  Hope you documented it properly.

 
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  That's a funny shot, Paul. :-)  Cheers, Christine
  
  
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  Subject: PESO: When you've gotta go...
  
  
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Re: PESO - Cotswold Stone

2008-10-06 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Subash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/06 Mon AM 04:24:17 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Cotswold Stone
 
 On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:30:28 -0400
 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Subash wrote:
 
   http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic28.html
   
  
   wheat fields and storm clouds, where have all the crows gone? :-))
 
  Subash, that's almost poetry.  It is a beautiful landscape.
 
 Peter, thanks. i thought i was making clever allusions but i'll take
 'almost poetry' too... :-))

AFAIK, Cotty still has both ears.  But is barking.  And an artist.  Nearly 
there.


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Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 

Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

Bob


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Re: PESO - Cotswold Stone

2008-10-06 Thread AlunFoto
Bob, It's a self-service cereal shop. Follow the stone fence to the cashier.

Nice pic, Cots!

Jostein

2008/10/5 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Quite nice, but it would be better if it was a shopping centre.


 Ages since I posted a pic, so why not. Archetypal midsummer Brit
 landscape with a stone wall, wheat, clouds, what more do you want?

 Epson R-D1 + CV 15mm 4.5   ISO400 f/16 @ 1/400th

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic28.html


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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Carlos Royo



Bob W escribió:

While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 


Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/



A good set of pictures, thanks for sharing them, Bob.

Carlos

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Re: PESO - Cotswold Stone

2008-10-06 Thread Subash
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AFAIK, Cotty still has both ears.  But is barking.  And an artist.  Nearly 
 there.

all he needs is a little friendly gauguinesque (?) nudge any volunteers? :)

regards, subash

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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Mme RD

Bob W a écrit :

While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 


Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

Bob


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tsk .. not proper cat photos , apart from 3 and 4...;))   but beautiful 
photos, they certainly are . Is it a butcher's shop they' re all looking 
at in the last shot ?


dom from cold Paris, france

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PESOs: a break

2008-10-06 Thread Bong Manayon
A break because (1) my work had me staring at a computer too long and
(2) for one day the rains stopped to show a sunset...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215427/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215423/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215413/

Oh, I will be joining a photo/art exhibit, so if anybody is in the
Philippines this weekend... :-D

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Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack my spare
batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only the battery
in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating I set off for
the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in the hope of
being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new camera. 

On the way there I spotted this place:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg

The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me and spent a
long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they didn't have
what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a pleasant time
with them and the older man showed me some photographs he'd taken on a
trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and telephone
boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small window you
can see in the shop:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg

Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine Olympus battery
for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese charger, so I
was rescued. But lesson learned!

Bob


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RE: PESO - Cotswold Stone

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
it is a lovely picture actually. I can almost hear Vaughan Williams in
the background somewhere. It sums up one of the aspects of this
country I really love.

Bob 

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 Bob, It's a self-service cereal shop. Follow the stone fence 
 to the cashier.
 
 Nice pic, Cots!
 
 Jostein
 
 2008/10/5 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Quite nice, but it would be better if it was a shopping centre.
 
 
  Ages since I posted a pic, so why not. Archetypal midsummer Brit
  landscape with a stone wall, wheat, clouds, what more do you
want?
 
  Epson R-D1 + CV 15mm 4.5   ISO400 f/16 @ 1/400th
 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic28.html


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Re: Mac Noob Question

2008-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I bought iLife '08 to get iWeb, but I'm now using iPhoto and iDVD to  
make slide shows. I give slide shows to my wedding customers, and  
they're a big hit. Slide shows of play days are a big hit with Grace  
as well:-).

Paul
On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:37 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


If you don't want to use iPhoto ...

Open Image Capture (in the Applications folder). Go to its  
preferences (Image Capture-Preferences) and choose No  
Application with regards to what application you want the system  
to run automatically when a camera or card is connected. Then you  
can move the image files yourself, manually, without having to deal  
with iPhoto or anything else. At which point it's as Cotty  
suggested, just a set of files that you move directly.


But the question, as I read it, was I have my files in iPhoto ...  
how do I use them in something else? Some people find iPhoto  
sufficient for their image management and processing ... the latest  
version (in the iLife '08 software package) is actually quite good.  
It's nothing like Lightroom or Aperture or Bridge+Photoshop ... but  
not useless either.


Godfrey

On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Cotty wrote:

The thing that makes me shudder is when you said 'they went into  
iPhoto'.


There's a really simple way to avoid iPhoto and manage your pictures
manually, with no hindrance from iPhoto, and you still get to see  
your

pics using 'Preview' (a small application that lets you view pictures
that comes with the OS).

How did you get the pics onto your Mac from the SDS card? Card  
reader of

direct connection from camera? I'll assume card reader


1. Connect card reader to Mac, Insert SD card.

2. Ignore any application that opens, especially iPhoto. Ignore and
close. See your SD card pop up straight onto your desktop. If it
doesn't, look along the top in the menubar, see 'Finder' click on
'Preferences' NOT the same thing as the blue Apple menu and System
Preferences!) (click anywhere on the desktop to make sure 'Finder'
appears top left on the menubar), ensure 'Hard Disks' is checked in :
'Show these items on the desktop'.

3. With your SD card on the desktop, open it by double-clicking on  
it -
navigate your way to your pics by double-clicking on the folders  
within

til you reach all your pics.

4. Create a new folder directly on the desktop.

5. Drag and drop your pics into this new folder directly from your SD
card pics folder.

6. Eject the SD card from the Mac. Drag it to the trash (does not  
delete
anything - dragging a connected hard disk to the trash simply  
ejects the
disk - see the cursor change to the eject symbol over the trash.  
There
are several ways to eject the hard disk, this is one of them. Then  
pull

the SD card out of the reader.

7. You now have copies of all you pics on your Mac. If you want to  
see
them, you can organise them in the folder so they will show the  
actual
pics in the icons, or open them in Preview. Or organise them and/ 
or view

them in any suitable application.

Apologies if this is very simplistic. Your question reminds me of  
a PC

user stumped by the simplest operation on a Mac ;-)

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling

Not a bumper but Manifold Destiny, (I just love that title)

http://www.amazon.com/Manifold-Destiny-Guide-Cooking-Engine/dp/0375751408

AlunFoto wrote:

You Americans...
Eating green beans and baked potato off a bumper?

Sheesh...

:-)

Jostein


2008/10/6 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

There's a place for all God's creatures, Right here next to the green beans
and baked potato. -bumper sticker

CW

Paul Sorenson wrote:


PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

-p

P. J. Alling wrote:
  

Doug Franklin wrote:


AlunFoto wrote:
  

2008/10/2 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Someone once said, I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a
vegetarian because I hate plants!
  

Lol.

Another definition: A vegetarian refuse to eat animals he can see
without a microscope.


I saw an /awesome/ t-shirt this weekend:

   Eating meat is murder.
Yummy, Yummy murder.

  

If God didn't want us to ear animals, he wouldn't have made them out of
meat.

or

There's room in this world for all of God's creatures,
on the plate right next to the mashed potatoes.



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Re: Mac Noob Question

2008-10-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty 
Subject: Re: Mac Noob Question





There's a really simple way to avoid iPhoto and manage your pictures
manually, with no hindrance from iPhoto, 


By a PC?

William Robb

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RE: OT - Why the LHC broke.

2008-10-06 Thread Anthony Farr


 -Original Message-
 From: John Francis
  
 Yep.   Totally new, and much *much* better.
 
 I've driven both.  Even viewed through the rose-tinted glasses of
nostalgia
 the original mini definitely had it's share of rough edges.
 

It'd be a disgrace if the new Mini wasn't very much better than the old -
four decades better in fact.  Even the most ordinary new cars are better
than most cars from the sixties with just a minority of exceptions, and the
old Mini was designed in the fifties.  

The new Mini was intended to be a sporty bit of nostalgia for cashed-up Baby
Boomers and Gen-Xers, but Alec Issigonis designed the old Mini to be simply
a cheap and economical city car.  He vehemently resisted any use of it in
motorsport, yet it shone across many categories and against many fancied
competitors at high levels of the sport.  

The new Mini is certainly the superior car, but I don't believe it could
ever dominate its contemporaries like the old Mini often did in the sixties.
It had no more or less rough edges than any comparable car of the sixties,
remembering that it was a budget and not a prestige car.

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Re: Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread Rick Womer
I really like both photos--very atmospheric, and the lighting of the portrait 
is lovely.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Photography help in Fez
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 8:29 AM
 When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack
 my spare
 batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only
 the battery
 in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating
 I set off for
 the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in
 the hope of
 being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new
 camera. 
 
 On the way there I spotted this place:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg
 
 The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me
 and spent a
 long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they
 didn't have
 what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a
 pleasant time
 with them and the older man showed me some photographs
 he'd taken on a
 trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and
 telephone
 boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small
 window you
 can see in the shop:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg
 
 Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine
 Olympus battery
 for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese
 charger, so I
 was rescued. But lesson learned!
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-06 Thread AlunFoto
LOL.

And banana-split is something you accomplish by placing it in the
exhaust pipe? :-)

Jostein


2008/10/6 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Not a bumper but Manifold Destiny, (I just love that title)

 http://www.amazon.com/Manifold-Destiny-Guide-Cooking-Engine/dp/0375751408

 AlunFoto wrote:

 You Americans...
 Eating green beans and baked potato off a bumper?

 Sheesh...

 :-)

 Jostein


 2008/10/6 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 There's a place for all God's creatures, Right here next to the green
 beans
 and baked potato. -bumper sticker

 CW

 Paul Sorenson wrote:


 PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

 -p

 P. J. Alling wrote:


 Doug Franklin wrote:


 AlunFoto wrote:


 2008/10/2 Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Someone once said, I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm
 a
 vegetarian because I hate plants!


 Lol.

 Another definition: A vegetarian refuse to eat animals he can see
 without a microscope.


 I saw an /awesome/ t-shirt this weekend:

   Eating meat is murder.
Yummy, Yummy murder.



 If God didn't want us to ear animals, he wouldn't have made them out of
 meat.

 or

 There's room in this world for all of God's creatures,
 on the plate right next to the mashed potatoes.



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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Subash
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:08:05 +0100
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
 presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
 a few of them:
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

Bob, really liked this one:
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html

earlier in the day, was unable to access the page at work, probably
because of the word 'cats' in the url... :-)

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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread ann sanfedele
these(pun alert) jump out at me  ... as two I love (and M J wouldn't 
dislike, I don't think)


http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_A049957_large.html

This one is definitely one NOT to show Mike if you value your virtual 
life - but

it's wonderful for the genre - purr.

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9299232_large.html

In the first one of the set, I can only just see the cat front left in 
the shadows which
made me skip over it quickly and I didn't see the kitten in the action 
until I went back to
that frame again... maybe a bit of a crop to take out the dark cat in 
the shadows?


neow
ann

Bob W wrote:


While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 


Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

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Re: PESOs: a break

2008-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
You certainly took good advantage of the time and elements available to you. 
Like all three, but Fiery Horizon is special. Exposure, horizon and placement 
of the ship are very well chosen.

Jack


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESOs: a break
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:28 AM
 A break because (1) my work had me staring at a computer too
 long and
 (2) for one day the rains stopped to show a sunset...
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215427/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215423/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215413/
 
 Oh, I will be joining a photo/art exhibit, so if anybody is
 in the
 Philippines this weekend... :-D
 
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Re: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread Rick Womer
B

That's a nice shot!  I'm ambivalent about the birds--you might try cropping the 
left and top to get rid of them, which would also make the waves crashing 
against the jetty more dramatic.

Rick

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--- On Sun, 10/5/08, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Subject: PESO: Stormy sea
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:50 PM
 Hi all,
 
 Kind of opposite to Cotty's lovely Cotswold Stone, both
 in feeling and 
 location
 
 At this time of year this is typical weather in the south
 east.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2915847158/
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
This is exactly why I love the use AAs in K200D, K100D, Ds,...

Very nice pictures BTW.



- Mensaje original 
De: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Enviado: lunes, 6 de octubre, 2008 14:29:52
Asunto: Photography help in Fez

When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack my spare
batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only the battery
in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating I set off for
the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in the hope of
being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new camera. 

On the way there I spotted this place:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg

The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me and spent a
long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they didn't have
what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a pleasant time
with them and the older man showed me some photographs he'd taken on a
trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and telephone
boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small window you
can see in the shop:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg

Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine Olympus battery
for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese charger, so I
was rescued. But lesson learned!

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Re: PESO - Evening in Montana

2008-10-06 Thread Doug Brewer

Boris Liberman wrote:
Doug, back in good old 1994 I went to my first trip abroad. Among other 
things I visited the Universal Studios Hollywood park. And there of 
course, I took a ride around the props town. You know, when you pass 
through various times and eras and buildings have only their facades... 
Immediately this memory came to my mind when I saw your picture.


Cheers!

Boris


Thanks Boris.

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Re: PESOs: a break

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bong,
All three are pretty pictures.
I especially like the 1st and 2nd for the feeling they give.
Including the lights on the crain and ship give a real nice touch to the photos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A break because (1) my work had me staring at a computer too long and
 (2) for one day the rains stopped to show a sunset...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215427/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215423/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215413/

 Oh, I will be joining a photo/art exhibit, so if anybody is in the
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Re: Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,
Nice portrait.  He has an interesting pattern of wrinkles!
Batteries and charger go in my bag first,
since a trip to GFM where I forgot the laptop charger.  :-(
Looks like a good trip to Fez.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack my spare
 batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only the battery
 in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating I set off for
 the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in the hope of
 being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new camera.

 On the way there I spotted this place:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg

 The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me and spent a
 long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they didn't have
 what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a pleasant time
 with them and the older man showed me some photographs he'd taken on a
 trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and telephone
 boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small window you
 can see in the shop:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg

 Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine Olympus battery
 for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese charger, so I
 was rescued. But lesson learned!

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Re: PESO: Granddad

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Both shots are wonderful

Dave

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 Another one shot at the cemetary. Decided to render this one in BW.

 Walt

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Re: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot, and well timed.

Dave

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 Hi all,

 Kind of opposite to Cotty's lovely Cotswold Stone, both in feeling and
 location

 At this time of year this is typical weather in the south east.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2915847158/

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Re: PESOs: a break

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
All three are very good, well composed and exposed.

The second is my fav

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A break because (1) my work had me staring at a computer too long and
 (2) for one day the rains stopped to show a sunset...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215427/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215423/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215413/

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Re: Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Both of those are very good Bob.

Did the same in Vegas in 2007.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack my spare
 batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only the battery
 in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating I set off for
 the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in the hope of
 being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new camera.

 On the way there I spotted this place:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg

 The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me and spent a
 long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they didn't have
 what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a pleasant time
 with them and the older man showed me some photographs he'd taken on a
 trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and telephone
 boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small window you
 can see in the shop:
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg

 Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine Olympus battery
 for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese charger, so I
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Re: Its up to the PDML now

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Well the fair is done for another year, and it was a good one. Weather
held out and i won a few ribbons.
One 1st, two 2nds, Two 3rds, a 4th and a 5th, from 22 entries.

I'm happy.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
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 Just about ready, as soon as i send this email, and turn off the
 computer, to mount all my Markham Fair photos for
 this years contest.

 Submitting all of the ones that got at least 1 thumb up form here and 
 PPG.:-)

 So, this year, if i don't do well, its your fault.:-)

 You can't lose, Dave!

 I'd just like to add that I think Markham Fair sounds line the name of
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RE: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
Thanks Ann. I haven't done any post-processing on them (except for the
chocolate-box kittens). The first is a failure really because it's not
sharp - the light levels were too low and it has camera shake and the
kitten is a bit of a blur.

Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of ann sanfedele
 Sent: 06 October 2008 14:45
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Would you like to see some kittens?
 
 these(pun alert) jump out at me  ... as two I love (and M J wouldn't

 dislike, I don't think)
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_A049957_large.html
 
 This one is definitely one NOT to show Mike if you value your
virtual 
 life - but
 it's wonderful for the genre - purr.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9299232_large.html
 
 In the first one of the set, I can only just see the cat 
 front left in 
 the shadows which
 made me skip over it quickly and I didn't see the kitten in 
 the action 
 until I went back to
 that frame again... maybe a bit of a crop to take out the dark cat
in 
 the shadows?
 
 neow
 ann
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
 While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
 noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike
Johnston,
 and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 
 
 Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps
and
 presumably also keeping down the population of rats and 
 mice. Here are
 a few of them:
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/
 
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Re: Its up to the PDML now

2008-10-06 Thread Rick Womer
Wow!

Congratulations!

Rick

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--- On Mon, 10/6/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Its up to the PDML now
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:58 AM
 Well the fair is done for another year, and it was a good
 one. Weather
 held out and i won a few ribbons.
 One 1st, two 2nds, Two 3rds, a 4th and a 5th, from 22
 entries.
 
 I'm happy.
 
 Dave
 
 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Mark Roberts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  frank theriault wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David J Brooks
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just about ready, as soon as i send this
 email, and turn off the
  computer, to mount all my Markham Fair photos
 for
  this years contest.
 
  Submitting all of the ones that got at least 1
 thumb up form here and PPG.:-)
 
  So, this year, if i don't do well, its
 your fault.:-)
 
  You can't lose, Dave!
 
  I'd just like to add that I think Markham
 Fair sounds line the name of
  the hero in a romance novel.
 
 
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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread ann sanfedele



Bob W wrote:


Thanks Ann. I haven't done any post-processing on them (except for the
chocolate-box kittens). The first is a failure really because it's not
sharp - the light levels were too low and it has camera shake and the
kitten is a bit of a blur.

Bob 
 

yup :-)My three faves certainly don't need any post processing that 
I can see...


the one with the meat is a bit too busy - wonder if BW conversion would 
make that more

readable... and the other one is ok but pales besides the three super ones

ann

 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of ann sanfedele

Sent: 06 October 2008 14:45
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Subject: Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

these(pun alert) jump out at me  ... as two I love (and M J wouldn't
   



 


dislike, I don't think)

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_A049957_large.html

This one is definitely one NOT to show Mike if you value your
   

virtual 
 


life - but
it's wonderful for the genre - purr.

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9299232_large.html

In the first one of the set, I can only just see the cat 
front left in 
the shadows which
made me skip over it quickly and I didn't see the kitten in 
the action 
until I went back to

that frame again... maybe a bit of a crop to take out the dark cat
   

in 
 


the shadows?

neow
ann

Bob W wrote:

   


While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike
 


Johnston,
 

and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 


Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps
 


and
 

presumably also keeping down the population of rats and 
 


mice. Here are
   


a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

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RE: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
Hi Ann,

the one with the meat is for amusement only - can't be many people
who've seen a kitten eat a whole camel before!

Bob 

 Bob W wrote:
 
 Thanks Ann. I haven't done any post-processing on them 
 (except for the
 chocolate-box kittens). The first is a failure really 
 because it's not
 sharp - the light levels were too low and it has camera shake and
the
 kitten is a bit of a blur.
 
 Bob 
   
 
 yup :-)My three faves certainly don't need any post 
 processing that 
 I can see...
 
 the one with the meat is a bit too busy - wonder if BW 
 conversion would 
 make that more
 readable... and the other one is ok but pales besides the 
 three super ones
 
 ann
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of ann sanfedele
 Sent: 06 October 2008 14:45
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Would you like to see some kittens?
 
 these(pun alert) jump out at me  ... as two I love (and M J
wouldn't
 
 
 
   
 
 dislike, I don't think)
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_A049957_large.html
 
 This one is definitely one NOT to show Mike if you value your
 
 
 virtual 
   
 
 life - but
 it's wonderful for the genre - purr.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9299232_large.html
 
 In the first one of the set, I can only just see the cat 
 front left in 
 the shadows which
 made me skip over it quickly and I didn't see the kitten in 
 the action 
 until I went back to
 that frame again... maybe a bit of a crop to take out the dark cat
 
 
 in 
   
 
 the shadows?
 
 neow
 ann
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
 
 
 While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
 noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike
   
 
 Johnston,
   
 
 and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that. 
 
 Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps
   
 
 and
   
 
 presumably also keeping down the population of rats and 
   
 
 mice. Here are
 
 
 a few of them:
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/
 


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Q about RAW

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
Do RAW files include the colour space that the photo was shot in? 

After leaving my batteries at home last week, and just before buying a
new one, my camera battery expired. When I put the new battery in the
previous camera settings were gone and I had to restore them from
memory. I set it up to use Adobe RGB - no idea whether I had this
there before or not. 

Now that all the photos are in Lightroom, many of them seem to me to
be more vibrantly colourful than I recall at the time. When I export
them they lose a good deal of their vibrancy. 

As an example, I have exported one frame into 2 tiff files, using
Adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB respectively - see below. The outputs are
noticeably different for each colour space, yet neither one is as
vibrant as the original file, and the original scene itself was very
vibrant and colourful.

http://www.web-options.com/Fez3.jpg
http://www.web-options.com/Fez4.jpg

The 2nd is probably closer to the original scene, but lacks the warmth
and colour that made me take the shot. They are some slippers I
bought, on the floor of my room in the beautiful, golden light coming
from the courtyard of the house where I stayed; the gold of the light
seems to be lost.

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Re: Its up to the PDML now

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hey Dave,
You gotta leave some prizes for the simple folks.  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Well the fair is done for another year, and it was a good one. Weather
 held out and i won a few ribbons.
 One 1st, two 2nds, Two 3rds, a 4th and a 5th, from 22 entries.

 I'm happy.

 Dave

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just about ready, as soon as i send this email, and turn off the
 computer, to mount all my Markham Fair photos for
 this years contest.

 Submitting all of the ones that got at least 1 thumb up form here and 
 PPG.:-)

 So, this year, if i don't do well, its your fault.:-)

 You can't lose, Dave!

 I'd just like to add that I think Markham Fair sounds line the name of
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Re: Mac Noob Question

2008-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


But the question, as I read it, was I have my files in iPhoto ... how
do I use them in something else?

Absolutely right. My alarm went off at 4.58 am as I had to be in London
for 9am this morning - it was 5.15 and the caffeine hadn't kicked in!!
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Re: Mac Noob Question

2008-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/08, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

FWIW the built-in Quick Look feature is very good if you have 10.5
(Leopard).

Ahar, I shoulda mentioned that I'm running 10.4.11. YMMV :)

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Festival for children

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
A couple of days before the end of Ramadan there is a special festival
for children. The girls in particular are dressed up in new clothes,
given new henna tattoos, paraded around in miniature bridal chairs,
and made a big fuss of. It's very appealing, and the people of Fez are
crazy about children:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/

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Re: Q about RAW

2008-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
RAW files do not have a colour space until they are converted in post
processing. While they might get tagged with one, that really only
refers to the colour space of the embedded JPEG.

You're having an export colour space issue, not an import ossie.

-Adam

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do RAW files include the colour space that the photo was shot in?

 After leaving my batteries at home last week, and just before buying a
 new one, my camera battery expired. When I put the new battery in the
 previous camera settings were gone and I had to restore them from
 memory. I set it up to use Adobe RGB - no idea whether I had this
 there before or not.

 Now that all the photos are in Lightroom, many of them seem to me to
 be more vibrantly colourful than I recall at the time. When I export
 them they lose a good deal of their vibrancy.

 As an example, I have exported one frame into 2 tiff files, using
 Adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB respectively - see below. The outputs are
 noticeably different for each colour space, yet neither one is as
 vibrant as the original file, and the original scene itself was very
 vibrant and colourful.

 http://www.web-options.com/Fez3.jpg
 http://www.web-options.com/Fez4.jpg

 The 2nd is probably closer to the original scene, but lacks the warmth
 and colour that made me take the shot. They are some slippers I
 bought, on the floor of my room in the beautiful, golden light coming
 from the courtyard of the house where I stayed; the gold of the light
 seems to be lost.

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Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread John Celio
Back when I was an art student and was in my first photography class, my
professor (Alice Shaw, www.aliceshaw.com) was giving a slide show about
famous fine art photographers and their creative processes.

One photographer she mentioned, whose name I wish I could remember,
would take photos and process the film, but not look at the negatives
for about a year.  This would help to remove sentimental attachments he
might have with the images and allow him to more objectively select
photos to print.  This struck me as a very good idea, especially since I
always feel immensely sentimental about things I create, even if they're
bad.

So, while I have been slowly rebuilding my website's gallery since last
winter, I've been trying to apply this philosophy to my own work.  I
have been taking lots of photos this year, but not really doing anything
with them (aside from a few exceptions, such as the birth of my nephew).
 Working with photos that I took in college and after has helped me see
just how bad some of the photos are that I used to think were great. 
It's difficult to resist the temptation to work on this year's photos,
but I keep telling myself it'll be worth it in the long run.

What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos, both
old and new?

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
While it might be a good philosophy when trying to cull the gallery,
it doesn't do much for the learning to improve your shooting.  It is
by examining the shots while you still remember details of shooting
that helps you learn how to improve your skills.

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Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:44:30 PM, you wrote:

JC Back when I was an art student and was in my first photography class, my
JC professor (Alice Shaw, www.aliceshaw.com) was giving a slide show about
JC famous fine art photographers and their creative processes.

JC One photographer she mentioned, whose name I wish I could remember,
JC would take photos and process the film, but not look at the negatives
JC for about a year.  This would help to remove sentimental attachments he
JC might have with the images and allow him to more objectively select
JC photos to print.  This struck me as a very good idea, especially since I
JC always feel immensely sentimental about things I create, even if they're
JC bad.

JC So, while I have been slowly rebuilding my website's gallery since last
JC winter, I've been trying to apply this philosophy to my own work.  I
JC have been taking lots of photos this year, but not really doing anything
JC with them (aside from a few exceptions, such as the birth of my nephew).
JC  Working with photos that I took in college and after has helped me see
JC just how bad some of the photos are that I used to think were great. 
JC It's difficult to resist the temptation to work on this year's photos,
JC but I keep telling myself it'll be worth it in the long run.

JC What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos, both
JC old and new?

JC John

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Walters
Interesting thoughts, John.

I think there's something in this idea.

I've certainly got a number of images that I worked on not long after
taking them and I wonder now what I saw in them.  But conversely, I've
noticed that when I review older images some time later (even a couple
of years later), I often find images that I had previously overlooked
but which now seem to have something to offer.

I don't know if I could defer working on a new batch of images for any
length of time after taking them but it's definitely worth reviewing the
archive from time to time.



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On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:44:30 -0700, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 Back when I was an art student and was in my first photography class, my
 professor (Alice Shaw, www.aliceshaw.com) was giving a slide show about
 famous fine art photographers and their creative processes.
 
 One photographer she mentioned, whose name I wish I could remember,
 would take photos and process the film, but not look at the negatives
 for about a year.  This would help to remove sentimental attachments he
 might have with the images and allow him to more objectively select
 photos to print.  This struck me as a very good idea, especially since I
 always feel immensely sentimental about things I create, even if they're
 bad.
 
 So, while I have been slowly rebuilding my website's gallery since last
 winter, I've been trying to apply this philosophy to my own work.  I
 have been taking lots of photos this year, but not really doing anything
 with them (aside from a few exceptions, such as the birth of my nephew).
  Working with photos that I took in college and after has helped me see
 just how bad some of the photos are that I used to think were great. 
 It's difficult to resist the temptation to work on this year's photos,
 but I keep telling myself it'll be worth it in the long run.
 
 What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos, both
 old and new?
 
 John
 
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RE: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
I wouldn't put something aside for that long, although returning to
stuff later certainly helps. I think it's very useful to submit work
to others for critical judgement, provided they know the subject and
you trust their opinions.

Bob 

[...]
 
 What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos,
both
 old and new?
 
 John


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Re: Festival for children

2008-10-06 Thread Carlos Royo



Bob W escribió:

A couple of days before the end of Ramadan there is a special festival
for children. The girls in particular are dressed up in new clothes,
given new henna tattoos, paraded around in miniature bridal chairs,
and made a big fuss of. It's very appealing, and the people of Fez are
crazy about children:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/



I like them a lot, Bob. They're all very interesting.

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Re: The beginning of the end for street photography?

2008-10-06 Thread Gonz
On 10/5/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4/10/08, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:


  I think there has been lots more mischief created by the ease with which
  one can use a cell
  phone to clandestinely  photo strangers on the street and blast them to
  the world on the web.


 Ann raises a very topical point here - one that still has plenty of
  mileage to run - and will become more prevalent in the near future.

  There are plenty of reports from around the world of situations where
  passers-by to an incident who have pulled out their camera-phones and
  snapped some pics or recorded video, have subsequently had them
  confiscated by police who claim that there may be evidence relevant to
  [the] investigation of said incident.

  This raises important civil liberty issues that have yet to make it to
  court (in the UK) in a defining situation.

  Viz: an air ambulance lands in a town centre where an injured man is
  stretchered onto it, the paramedics still working on him with CPR etc. A
  couple of dozen bystanders are caught nearby between the police cordon
  and a building, effectively in 'no-man's land' for the duration of the
  helicopter stay, only about 20 minutes or so. During the patient
  evacuation, police announce that anyone caught using phones to picture
  the scene will have them confiscated - and indeed several are seized.
  Yet two stills photographers and a video news cameraman nearby continue
  to record the scene. One police officer attempts to stop one stills
  photographer from photographing, and a conversation ensues which results
  in the officer from backing down and concentrating on the crowd.

  This scenario actually happened recently in the UK, and I was the video
  news cameraman in this case.

  My point is that the time will come when the police will not back down
  and censure of legitimate newsgathering operations will result. I
  suspect it will proceed to court for a legal definition to be made that
  will then inform future police powers (in the UK in this case).


Scary.  UK moving towards fascism?

  At what stage do 'legitimate newsgathering operations' merge with
  'bystanders snapping on phones' - are the two actually the same? Is
  there a distinction? Do police actually have authority to seize
  recording devices by claiming they may contain evidence central to an
  ongoing investigation? If so - does that extend to professional
  newsgathering organisations? The answer is - it can.


Sounds like fascism has already arrived...

  In the UK, professional newsgathering organisations (defined by UK
  standards as a bone fide journalist, licensed by the Association of
  Chief Police Officers and provided with a photo-ID card for proof)
  cannot be made to hand over recording devices or their recordings
  without a court order overseen by a judge. The police could not legally
  have demanded my camera tape or camera, even though they possibly may
  have arrested me for a public order offense if I had refused any such
  demands. My employer's legal department have defined protocols in this
  situation - no material is ever to be handed to police in such cases -
  even if arrest will be the result.

  For anyone else, you're at the mercy of the police! Obviously your
  mileage may vary by country.

  I have as yet to encounter a situation whereby I m off duty but witness
  an incident and record it on my own camera-phone.







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PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
the shot was good.

Here is the image that was printed:


Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread Joseph McAllister
It turns out that my insurance coverage (still haven't found the  
actual policy - just coverage limits) is replacement value. With a  
good addendum.


Once my equipment's replacement costs are estimated by an independent  
company (I hope) I will be paid that amount without question for my  
loss ($500 deductible). As I replace the pieces that I can from the  
used market if I can find them, anything that costs me more that the  
estimate will be paid for based on the receipts I tender. If it is no  
longer manufactured or reasonably unobtainable, I can replace the old  
equipment with new items that equal to or come close to the lost items  
in specification, and I will then be paid the difference.


So I'm asking for recommendations from the crew. Keeping in mind that  
I have a K100, a K10, a K20, a PZ-1P, three LX bodies and ALL the  
accessories every made for it, about 25 K-mount full frame lenses  
left, a 67 135mm Macro left, a Pentax cassette loader for the 250  
frame back for the LX, and a very small freezer full of bricks and  
boxes and 100 ft rolls of 35mm and 120 film, and sheet film in 3  
sizes. And don't forget, I'm 66 yrs. old, and statistics say will live  
only another ten years at best unless I lose 80 pounds and start a  
program of vigorous daily exercise, in which case I'll most likely  
live an additional one or two!


What would a PDML'r do?

Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N

Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N

Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
and sell my LXs and PZ-1p?

Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
get a Canon body + 2 lenses?

Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
 the stock market?

Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
on hookers?

Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N


Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian


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Re: Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Boy, those last couple of choices really make the decision hard
grin.  I used to shoot 67ii's (had two of them) and most of the
lenses.  I let them go back when they actually had some value.  So
I'm saying that I wouldn't bother with that equipment at this point
(unless you really love using it).

Even though you have lots of film, you still have to pay for
processing.  At least for color, I think that is still in a downward
spiral.  This one has really got to be your call.  The camera
manufacturers are pretty much gone from the film market which is a
good indication as to where it is headed.

With the amount of lenses and such you have, I think I would stick
with Pentax Digital for the time being.

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Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:55:09 PM, you wrote:

JM It turns out that my insurance coverage (still haven't found the  
JM actual policy - just coverage limits) is replacement value. With a  
JM good addendum.

JM Once my equipment's replacement costs are estimated by an independent
JM company (I hope) I will be paid that amount without question for my  
JM loss ($500 deductible). As I replace the pieces that I can from the  
JM used market if I can find them, anything that costs me more that the  
JM estimate will be paid for based on the receipts I tender. If it is no
JM longer manufactured or reasonably unobtainable, I can replace the old
JM equipment with new items that equal to or come close to the lost items
JM in specification, and I will then be paid the difference.

JM So I'm asking for recommendations from the crew. Keeping in mind that
JM I have a K100, a K10, a K20, a PZ-1P, three LX bodies and ALL the  
JM accessories every made for it, about 25 K-mount full frame lenses  
JM left, a 67 135mm Macro left, a Pentax cassette loader for the 250  
JM frame back for the LX, and a very small freezer full of bricks and  
JM boxes and 100 ft rolls of 35mm and 120 film, and sheet film in 3  
JM sizes. And don't forget, I'm 66 yrs. old, and statistics say will live
JM only another ten years at best unless I lose 80 pounds and start a  
JM program of vigorous daily exercise, in which case I'll most likely  
JM live an additional one or two!

JM What would a PDML'r do?

JM Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N

JM Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N

JM Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
JM and sell my LXs and PZ-1p?

JM Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
JM get a Canon body + 2 lenses?

JM Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
JM   the stock market?

JM Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
JM on hookers?

JM Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N


JM Joseph McAllister
JM Pentaxian


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Re: Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It turns out that my insurance coverage (still haven't found the actual
 policy - just coverage limits) is replacement value. With a good addendum.

 Once my equipment's replacement costs are estimated by an independent
 company (I hope) I will be paid that amount without question for my loss
 ($500 deductible). As I replace the pieces that I can from the used market
 if I can find them, anything that costs me more that the estimate will be
 paid for based on the receipts I tender. If it is no longer manufactured or
 reasonably unobtainable, I can replace the old equipment with new items that
 equal to or come close to the lost items in specification, and I will then
 be paid the difference.

 So I'm asking for recommendations from the crew. Keeping in mind that I have
 a K100, a K10, a K20, a PZ-1P, three LX bodies and ALL the accessories every
 made for it, about 25 K-mount full frame lenses left, a 67 135mm Macro left,
 a Pentax cassette loader for the 250 frame back for the LX, and a very small
 freezer full of bricks and boxes and 100 ft rolls of 35mm and 120 film, and
 sheet film in 3 sizes. And don't forget, I'm 66 yrs. old, and statistics say
 will live only another ten years at best unless I lose 80 pounds and start a
 program of vigorous daily exercise, in which case I'll most likely live an
 additional one or two!

 What would a PDML'r do?

 Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N

Y


 Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N

Y


 Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
 and sell my LXs and PZ-1p?

Y


 Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
 get a Canon body + 2 lenses?

Only if named Cotty


 Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
  the stock market?

N


 Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
 on hookers?

N (I could make a joke here, but it would be in bad taste).


 Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N


Y


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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher
I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed 
his film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his 
photos because he was less attached.

Norm

Bruce Dayton wrote:

While it might be a good philosophy when trying to cull the gallery,
it doesn't do much for the learning to improve your shooting.  It is
by examining the shots while you still remember details of shooting
that helps you learn how to improve your skills.

  


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Re: Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What would a PDML'r do?

 Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N

No

 Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N

Yes

 Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
 and sell my LXs and PZ-1

Tough call.

 Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
 get a Canon body + 2 lenses?

Forget Cannon, the D700 for you mate.

 Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
  the stock market?

Good prices out there today, sure why not.

 Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
 on hookers?

You got enough for more than one. I'm impressed.

 Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N

I'v already done that, its taken. Sorry.

Dave


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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely smile and eyes.

Would they be concerned that the files were being ripped off maybe,.??

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
 some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
 in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
 they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
 In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
 the shot was good.

 Here is the image that was printed:


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
 ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: Festival for children

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Great set Bob, very colourful

I like this one.

http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/content/_9289080_large.html

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A couple of days before the end of Ramadan there is a special festival
 for children. The girls in particular are dressed up in new clothes,
 given new henna tattoos, paraded around in miniature bridal chairs,
 and made a big fuss of. It's very appealing, and the people of Fez are
 crazy about children:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/

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Have you experenced this double image?

2008-10-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi,

I some images produced bt my K20D + DA 50-200 I have notices a strange blur, 
actually closer to a double image, in some pictures. They are not enough 
frequent to send it immediately to a warranty repair, but enough to try to 
understand its causes.

Here you have three 100% crops:
http://tinyurl.com/4mwzkp
or
http://picasaweb.google.es/jlahuer/K20DDoubleImage?authkey=NqXDmYt0yRo

(For those not familiar with Picasaweb, at the right, under 'more info' you can 
find exposure data. The pictures are better viewed in slide show mode).

They are all below the limits of the 1/focal length rule, but not that much so 
SR should be able to compensate it, doesn't it?

So, have you ever experienced something similar?
Can this be due to SR not working properly?

Regards,
Jaume



  

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Curiously enough, today I reviewed several selected pictures form a 2005 trip 
and to my surprised I liked quite a lot of them. I really expected not to like 
many, specially since I'm becoming too used to 'digital grainless' and 
sharpness. Both are lacking in my oldest pictures due to the equipment used for 
the pictures and for the scanning workflow (and I am too lazy to rescan them).

Regards,
Jaume



- Mensaje original 
De: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado: lunes, 6 de octubre, 2008 22:05:41
Asunto: Re: Philosophy

Interesting thoughts, John.

I think there's something in this idea.

I've certainly got a number of images that I worked on not long after
taking them and I wonder now what I saw in them.  But conversely, I've
noticed that when I review older images some time later (even a couple
of years later), I often find images that I had previously overlooked
but which now seem to have something to offer.

I don't know if I could defer working on a new batch of images for any
length of time after taking them but it's definitely worth reviewing the
archive from time to time.



Cheers

Brian

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:44:30 -0700, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Back when I was an art student and was in my first photography class, my
 professor (Alice Shaw, www.aliceshaw.com) was giving a slide show about
 famous fine art photographers and their creative processes.
 
 One photographer she mentioned, whose name I wish I could remember,
 would take photos and process the film, but not look at the negatives
 for about a year.  This would help to remove sentimental attachments he
 might have with the images and allow him to more objectively select
 photos to print.  This struck me as a very good idea, especially since I
 always feel immensely sentimental about things I create, even if they're
 bad.
 
 So, while I have been slowly rebuilding my website's gallery since last
 winter, I've been trying to apply this philosophy to my own work.  I
 have been taking lots of photos this year, but not really doing anything
 with them (aside from a few exceptions, such as the birth of my nephew).
  Working with photos that I took in college and after has helped me see
 just how bad some of the photos are that I used to think were great. 
 It's difficult to resist the temptation to work on this year's photos,
 but I keep telling myself it'll be worth it in the long run.
 
 What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos, both
 old and new?
 
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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
No, the issue for labs is that if they reproduce something that is
copyrighted they are on the hook for it.  If a customer came in with
copyrighted material and said it wasn't, the lab is still liable if
they reproduce it.  So they either need a sworn statement from the
photographer on company letterhead authorizing the customer to make
copies (prints) or the customer has to sign a statement indicated
that he is the original owner/creator of the image(s).

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Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:16:44 PM, you wrote:

DJB Lovely smile and eyes.

DJB Would they be concerned that the files were being ripped off maybe,.??

DJB Dave

DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
 some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
 in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
 they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
 In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
 the shot was good.

 Here is the image that was printed:


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
 ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
 film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
 because he was less attached.
 Norm

I do the same thing, only I'm just lazy.
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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Hum, would not have thought about that.

FWIW i have never been asked, so take that as you may.

g

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, the issue for labs is that if they reproduce something that is
 copyrighted they are on the hook for it.  If a customer came in with
 copyrighted material and said it wasn't, the lab is still liable if
 they reproduce it.  So they either need a sworn statement from the
 photographer on company letterhead authorizing the customer to make
 copies (prints) or the customer has to sign a statement indicated
 that he is the original owner/creator of the image(s).

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:16:44 PM, you wrote:

 DJB Lovely smile and eyes.

 DJB Would they be concerned that the files were being ripped off maybe,.??

 DJB Dave

 DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
 DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
 some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
 in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
 they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
 In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
 the shot was good.

 Here is the image that was printed:


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
 ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: Have you experenced this double image?

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
I can see what looks like a second chair image to the right, but
nothing on the other two.

All three are OOF or motion blur, at least thats what it looks like to me.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I some images produced bt my K20D + DA 50-200 I have notices a strange blur, 
 actually closer to a double image, in some pictures. They are not enough 
 frequent to send it immediately to a warranty repair, but enough to try to 
 understand its causes.

 Here you have three 100% crops:
 http://tinyurl.com/4mwzkp
 or
 http://picasaweb.google.es/jlahuer/K20DDoubleImage?authkey=NqXDmYt0yRo

 (For those not familiar with Picasaweb, at the right, under 'more info' you 
 can find exposure data. The pictures are better viewed in slide show mode).

 They are all below the limits of the 1/focal length rule, but not that much 
 so SR should be able to compensate it, doesn't it?

 So, have you ever experienced something similar?
 Can this be due to SR not working properly?

 Regards,
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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Good set of photos Bob.

I like the compositions of all, but this one really stands out for me

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
 noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
 and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that.

 Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
 presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
 a few of them:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher

Dave, stop drinking beer during the day :)
Norm

David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
because he was less attached.
Norm



I do the same thing, only I'm just lazy.
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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ann,

 the one with the meat is for amusement only - can't be many people
 who've seen a kitten eat a whole camel before!

He's got teeth this big,.

Dave

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, stop drinking beer during the day :)

Which one.

Dave


 Norm

 David J Brooks wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
 film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Don't know how accurate this is, but I have heard about a photog that
would give his clients the means to get prints done at labs and then
encouraged them to do so.  He would then turn around and sue the labs
for copyright violations.  Pretty low, if really true.

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Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:25:04 PM, you wrote:

DJB Hum, would not have thought about that.

DJB FWIW i have never been asked, so take that as you may.

DJB g

DJB Dave

DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Bruce Dayton
DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, the issue for labs is that if they reproduce something that is
 copyrighted they are on the hook for it.  If a customer came in with
 copyrighted material and said it wasn't, the lab is still liable if
 they reproduce it.  So they either need a sworn statement from the
 photographer on company letterhead authorizing the customer to make
 copies (prints) or the customer has to sign a statement indicated
 that he is the original owner/creator of the image(s).

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:16:44 PM, you wrote:

 DJB Lovely smile and eyes.

 DJB Would they be concerned that the files were being ripped off maybe,.??

 DJB Dave

 DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
 DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
 some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
 in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
 they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
 In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
 the shot was good.

 Here is the image that was printed:


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
 ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: AF why

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Only if they can spare a plane, luckily they're a bit busy these days.

Our plane is busy this month, so i'll just keep using the shutter
button for AF, till it gets back.

Dave

 Bob W wrote:

 It's the Air Force button. It calls in an airstrike on the thing
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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
 film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
 because he was less attached.
 Norm

Yeah, and he died with something like 10,000 exposed undeveloped rolls
of film in his apartment.

Me, I like to strike when the iron's hot.  I like to look at a photo
soon after I took it, when I'm still excited with it, and do stuff
with it quickly.

That's one of the things I love about digital.

cheers,
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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
That depends on what sort of skills you're trying to develop.
Winogrand's method is good for compositional skills, the opposite for
technical skills where quick feedback can tell you if you're doing it
right.

-Adam

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
 film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
 because he was less attached.
 Norm

 Bruce Dayton wrote:

 While it might be a good philosophy when trying to cull the gallery,
 it doesn't do much for the learning to improve your shooting.  It is
 by examining the shots while you still remember details of shooting
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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher

Bass on Mondays?

David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Dave, stop drinking beer during the day :)



Which one.

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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Oh man that is sooo low.

Sounds a bit like my maneg competion for the shows. I always
wondered why i would see new faces shooting after 1-2 shows. Found out
Saturday, he bounces the cheques, and they obviously don't come back.

Thats lw to.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't know how accurate this is, but I have heard about a photog that
 would give his clients the means to get prints done at labs and then
 encouraged them to do so.  He would then turn around and sue the labs
 for copyright violations.  Pretty low, if really true.

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:25:04 PM, you wrote:

 DJB Hum, would not have thought about that.

 DJB FWIW i have never been asked, so take that as you may.

 DJB g

 DJB Dave

 DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Bruce Dayton
 DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, the issue for labs is that if they reproduce something that is
 copyrighted they are on the hook for it.  If a customer came in with
 copyrighted material and said it wasn't, the lab is still liable if
 they reproduce it.  So they either need a sworn statement from the
 photographer on company letterhead authorizing the customer to make
 copies (prints) or the customer has to sign a statement indicated
 that he is the original owner/creator of the image(s).

 --
 Best regards,
 Bruce


 Monday, October 6, 2008, 2:16:44 PM, you wrote:

 DJB Lovely smile and eyes.

 DJB Would they be concerned that the files were being ripped off maybe,.??

 DJB Dave

 DJB On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
 DJB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
 some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
 in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
 they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
 In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
 the shot was good.

 Here is the image that was printed:


 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
 ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bass on Mondays?

Ok, trout Tuesday it is.,

Dave

 David J Brooks wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 Dave, stop drinking beer during the day :)


 Which one.

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts

Norm Baugher wrote:


Bruce Dayton wrote:

While it might be a good philosophy when trying to cull the gallery,
it doesn't do much for the learning to improve your shooting.  It is
by examining the shots while you still remember details of shooting
that helps you learn how to improve your skills.


 I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed
 his film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his
 photos because he was less attached.

I'm with Baugher and Winograd 100% on this one: I usually wait (though 
only about a month) before judging photos from any particular shoot. 
It's amazing how it's almost impossible to pick the keepers aone day 
after a shoot and how obviously they stand out after 4-6 weeks.



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So OT its made a circle and returned.

2008-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
Any one on the list knowledgeable in unions, start ups, voting in,
voting out, that sort of thing.

PLEASE reply off list if you do, i have a question.

Dave

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher
Which is fine Frankie, but I also like the other view. I just developed 
a few rolls from last year, what I thought would be good or bad was 
totally different when I didn't have the quick emotional attachment to 
them. Interesting, that's what I don't like about digital.

Norm

frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I disagree, Winogrand would wait sometimes a year before he developed his
film. He thought that it gave him a more perspective view of his photos
because he was less attached.
Norm



Yeah, and he died with something like 10,000 exposed undeveloped rolls
of film in his apartment.

Me, I like to strike when the iron's hot.  I like to look at a photo
soon after I took it, when I'm still excited with it, and do stuff
with it quickly.

That's one of the things I love about digital.

cheers,
frank


  


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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher

Okay, just save me one of those weird Canadian beers for GFM next year...
Norm

David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Bass on Mondays?



Ok, trout Tuesday it is.,

Dave
  

David J Brooks wrote:


On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  

Dave, stop drinking beer during the day :)



Which one.

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Re: Would you like to see some kittens?

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Bob:  This one has some serious potential. 
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9309597_large.html   I'd 
straighten out that vertical  an tighten the crop.


Having said that, these are pretty great too: 
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_A029826_large.html and 
http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/content/_9288941_large.html.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Would you like to see some kittens?



While looking through the 1,000+ photos I took in Fez last week I
noticed quite a few that probably would not appeal to Mike Johnston,
and are not normally my cup of tea either, come to that.

Fez has quite a large population of feral cats, living off scraps and
presumably also keeping down the population of rats and mice. Here are
a few of them:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezcats/

Bob


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Re: Photography help in Fez

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila

Nice portrait, Bob.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Photography help in Fez



When I arrived in Fez I found that I had forgotten to pack my spare
batteries and battery chargers, so I had arrived with only the battery
in the vertical grip. When I'd stopped hyperventilating I set off for
the French-built part of town, which is a modern city, in the hope of
being able to pick something up and, if not, buy a new camera.

On the way there I spotted this place:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez1.jpg

The old man and his son who ran it opened the shop for me and spent a
long time searching through their piles of stuff, but they didn't have
what I needed, unfortunately. Nevertheless, I spent a pleasant time
with them and the older man showed me some photographs he'd taken on a
trip to London in the 1970s - mainly Buckingham Palace and telephone
boxes. I took a picture of him by the light of the small window you
can see in the shop:
http://www.web-options.com/Fez2.jpg

Later that day I did manage to find a small, genuine Olympus battery
for the camera and a rather dodgy but effective Chinese charger, so I
was rescued. But lesson learned!

Bob


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Re: Have you experenced this double image?

2008-10-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Well, if it is motion blur it is different to the one I have experienced with 
my previous non-stabilized DSLR, that's why I find it strange.
(and I have many other pictures blurred in the 'traditional' way)


thanks,
Jaume



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De: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado: lunes, 6 de octubre, 2008 23:27:48
Asunto: Re: Have you experenced this double image?

I can see what looks like a second chair image to the right, but
nothing on the other two.

All three are OOF or motion blur, at least thats what it looks like to me.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I some images produced bt my K20D + DA 50-200 I have notices a strange blur, 
 actually closer to a double image, in some pictures. They are not enough 
 frequent to send it immediately to a warranty repair, but enough to try to 
 understand its causes.

 Here you have three 100% crops:
 http://tinyurl.com/4mwzkp
 or
 http://picasaweb.google.es/jlahuer/K20DDoubleImage?authkey=NqXDmYt0yRo

 (For those not familiar with Picasaweb, at the right, under 'more info' you 
 can find exposure data. The pictures are better viewed in slide show mode).

 They are all below the limits of the 1/focal length rule, but not that much 
 so SR should be able to compensate it, doesn't it?

 So, have you ever experienced something similar?
 Can this be due to SR not working properly?

 Regards,
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Re: Festival for children

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila

This one's a doosey!
http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/content/P9289005_large.html

This one's nice also
http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/content/_9289080_large.html

Cheers, Christine


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A couple of days before the end of Ramadan there is a special festival
for children. The girls in particular are dressed up in new clothes,
given new henna tattoos, paraded around in miniature bridal chairs,
and made a big fuss of. It's very appealing, and the people of Fez are
crazy about children:

http://www.web-options.com/Fezfest/

Bob


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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Another lovely one Bruce.  First I've heard of this kind of situation 
before.  Cheers, Christine



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From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted
some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
the shot was good.

Here is the image that was printed:


Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm, Fill Flash
ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6170b.htm

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Re: PESOs: a break

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Bong:  All are nice, but I think my fave is the ship (2nd one).  Colors  
composition are lovely.  Also, I think the 2nd one has a stronger sense of 
mood.  Cheers, Christine



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A break because (1) my work had me staring at a computer too long and
(2) for one day the rains stopped to show a sunset...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215427/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215423/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2909215413/

Oh, I will be joining a photo/art exhibit, so if anybody is in the
Philippines this weekend... :-D

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DA*50-135 Lens Cap

2008-10-06 Thread Manuel Magalhães


 

Hi everyone

I recently got myself involved with the acquisition of a DA*16-50 and a
DA*50-135. Hard work but I got them!! Sold my MZ-s and and battery grip
and... more stuff than I'd like, but got those beauties!!
The next step is to sell the house in order to get an 24'' iMac. I think
that I will be able to post some pictures in a couple of weeks. Hopefully
not mine with suitcases at front door.

Well the fact is that with the excitement of changing lenses I lost the
front cap of the 50-135. I looked in the pentax web store and there she
was... the PTX 31521. The problem is that they won't send it to Portugal.
The local pentax dealer is very very slow in managing to solve our
(pentaxians) problem. So here I am asking for the help of PDML community. 

I am willing to pay for the shipping to Portugal and the cost of the cap
that I am sure will be less than the the shipping. Unless that someone in
Europe can manage to get me that cap.

Thanks in advance,

Manuel   


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Re: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread drew
Thanks to everyone that commented or just had a look I took 
Christine and Ricks advice and had a crop at it, also had a play with 
levels to give a little more life. Better???


http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2920156526/

Thanks again all.
Drew.




David J Brooks wrote:

Great shot, and well timed.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Kind of opposite to Cotty's lovely Cotswold Stone, both in feeling and
location

At this time of year this is typical weather in the south east.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2915847158/

Cheers,
Drew.

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Re: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it better.  Wow, the wave really pops, doesn't it.  Real nice Drew! 
Cheers, Christine



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Thanks to everyone that commented or just had a look I took Christine 
and Ricks advice and had a crop at it, also had a play with levels to give 
a little more life. Better???


http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2920156526/

Thanks again all.
Drew.




David J Brooks wrote:

Great shot, and well timed.

Dave

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi all,

Kind of opposite to Cotty's lovely Cotswold Stone, both in feeling and
location

At this time of year this is typical weather in the south east.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2915847158/

Cheers,
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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
I always take a studied look at everything I shoot immediately upon 
processing/downloading. I learned a long time ago not to throw things out 
because of an initial feeling my expectations were not meant. I've sometimes 
found that the image stands on its own when I'm further from the moment.
BTW, at what point can you bring yourself to throw out thousand of envelopes of 
prints/negatives/slides/CD's that you're certain will never again be tussled 
through? 
I consider it a kindness not to leave the job and its attendant guilt to my 
survivors. 


Jack


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 From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Philosophy
 To: PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:44 PM
 Back when I was an art student and was in my first
 photography class, my
 professor (Alice Shaw, www.aliceshaw.com) was giving a
 slide show about
 famous fine art photographers and their creative processes.
 
 One photographer she mentioned, whose name I wish I could
 remember,
 would take photos and process the film, but not look at the
 negatives
 for about a year.  This would help to remove sentimental
 attachments he
 might have with the images and allow him to more
 objectively select
 photos to print.  This struck me as a very good idea,
 especially since I
 always feel immensely sentimental about things I create,
 even if they're
 bad.
 
 So, while I have been slowly rebuilding my website's
 gallery since last
 winter, I've been trying to apply this philosophy to my
 own work.  I
 have been taking lots of photos this year, but not really
 doing anything
 with them (aside from a few exceptions, such as the birth
 of my nephew).
  Working with photos that I took in college and after has
 helped me see
 just how bad some of the photos are that I used to think
 were great. 
 It's difficult to resist the temptation to work on this
 year's photos,
 but I keep telling myself it'll be worth it in the long
 run.
 
 What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your
 photos, both
 old and new?
 
 John
 
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OT - Guitars

2008-10-06 Thread Cotty
Oh Font Of All Knowledge That Is The PDML,

Anyone here swing an axe? My son plays an acoustic 6 string, and has
professed a desire for an electric. I would like to get him a surprise
for his birthday in a few weeks so am doing my research. I am minded to
look for a Telecaster, probably a Mex as it's in our price range...

Whaddya say?



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Re: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
I'm going to be the exception, of course, but I sort of related to the birds in 
their circumstance of dealing with the heavy weather.

Jack


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Stormy sea
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 Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:28 PM
 Thanks to everyone that commented or just had a look I
 took 
 Christine and Ricks advice and had a crop at it, also had a
 play with 
 levels to give a little more life. Better???
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2920156526/
 
 Thanks again all.
 Drew.
 
 
 
 
 David J Brooks wrote:
  Great shot, and well timed.
  
  Dave
  
  On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM, drew
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Kind of opposite to Cotty's lovely Cotswold
 Stone, both in feeling and
  location
 
  At this time of year this is typical weather in
 the south east.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2915847158/
 
  Cheers,
  Drew.
 
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Re: Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/08, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

What would a PDML'r do?

Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N

N

Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N

Y

Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
and sell my LXs and PZ-1p?

N

Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
get a Canon body + 2 lenses?

N

Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
  the stock market?

N

Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
on hookers?

Y

Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N

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Re: Philosophy

2008-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/08, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

What sort of philosphy do you have when working with your photos, both
old and new?

Interesting you should mention this. Very recently I was looking back
through my archive for some pictures of our old house from a couple of
years ago. We were there about 15 years, and my son grew up there til
the age of 12. I came across shots I do not recall taking, some quite
sensitive family shots (son in agony or ecstasy) and a whole raft of
memories and emotions cascading down. I was actually quite drained after
a couple of hours of that.

I didn't think I would have been so affected. It was draining.

I couldn't detach myself from the pictures and treat them simply as
photographs - they drew me in and I could not fight it. Objectivity
simply went away.

More recent pictures I can look at and be cruel, deleting at will. The
olders ones opened my mind and I could not delete a single one.

Food for thought.

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RE: PESO: Stormy sea

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
I enjoyed it before - enjoy it more this time. It feels very real,
especially the colour and texture of the sea.
Bob 

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 Behalf Of drew
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Stormy sea
 
 Thanks to everyone that commented or just had a look I took 
 Christine and Ricks advice and had a crop at it, also had a play
with 
 levels to give a little more life. Better???
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2920156526/
 
 Thanks again all.
 Drew.


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RE: Insurance Good News

2008-10-06 Thread Bob W
Buy a digital camera, plus the 2 final options, and shoot some amusing
photos for your descendants to sell on eBay.

Bob 

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 Subject: Insurance Good News
 
 It turns out that my insurance coverage (still haven't found the  
 actual policy - just coverage limits) is replacement value. With a  
 good addendum.
 
 Once my equipment's replacement costs are estimated by an 
 independent  
 company (I hope) I will be paid that amount without question for my

 loss ($500 deductible). As I replace the pieces that I can from the

 used market if I can find them, anything that costs me more that the

 estimate will be paid for based on the receipts I tender. If 
 it is no  
 longer manufactured or reasonably unobtainable, I can replace 
 the old  
 equipment with new items that equal to or come close to the 
 lost items  
 in specification, and I will then be paid the difference.
 
 So I'm asking for recommendations from the crew. Keeping in 
 mind that  
 I have a K100, a K10, a K20, a PZ-1P, three LX bodies and ALL the  
 accessories every made for it, about 25 K-mount full frame lenses  
 left, a 67 135mm Macro left, a Pentax cassette loader for the 250  
 frame back for the LX, and a very small freezer full of bricks and  
 boxes and 100 ft rolls of 35mm and 120 film, and sheet film in 3  
 sizes. And don't forget, I'm 66 yrs. old, and statistics say 
 will live  
 only another ten years at best unless I lose 80 pounds and start a  
 program of vigorous daily exercise, in which case I'll most likely  
 live an additional one or two!
 
 What would a PDML'r do?
 
 Replace my rarely used 67 gear?  Y   N
 
 Replace my great 35mm lenses?   Y   N
 
 Buy new DA* optics for DigitalY   N
 and sell my LXs and PZ-1p?
 
 Sell all the gear I now own and   Y   N
 get a Canon body + 2 lenses?
 
 Sell everything and invest it all inY   N
   the stock market?
 
 Sell everything, and spend it all   Y   N
 on hookers?
 
 Take up drink as a final solution?Y   N
 
 
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Re: Have you experenced this double image?

2008-10-06 Thread Doug Franklin

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:


I some images produced bt my K20D + DA 50-200 I have notices a strange blur, 
actually closer to a double image, in some pictures. They are not enough 
frequent to send it immediately to a warranty repair, but enough to try to 
understand its causes.

Here you have three 100% crops:
http://tinyurl.com/4mwzkp
or
http://picasaweb.google.es/jlahuer/K20DDoubleImage?authkey=NqXDmYt0yRo

They are all below the limits of the 1/focal length rule, but not that much so 
SR should be able to compensate it, doesn't it?

So, have you ever experienced something similar?
Can this be due to SR not working properly?


I may have experienced it this weekend, but only with one lens out of 
the four I used.  I haven't yet checked to see if it's something as 
stupid as a dirty lens.  I used a K10D with DA 50-200, FA* 300, FA* 
200/2.8, and Sigma 400/5.6 APO Macro, no filters on any of them, but 
always using the hoods, with SR enabled.  Only the Sigma showed the 
effect, and it never has done anything like that before.  I think it 
only happened on panned photos, but I'm still going through them.  I was 
using the Sigma on a sturdy Manfrotto monopod and ball head combination 
that I've used with it before and not experienced the phenomenon.


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Re: PESO - Offhanded Complement

2008-10-06 Thread Doug Franklin

Bruce Dayton wrote:


From a recent set of portraits I took of my daughter, my wife wanted

some small, cheap prints done.  This is a job for Walmart.  So I went
in and put the digital order in.  When my wife went to pick them up,
they wouldn't release them because they looked 'too professional'.
In a way, it was pleasing to hear that the operators there thought
the shot was good.


This is a complete load of bushwa.  I'd have been nearly apoplectic had 
they refused to release my prints to me.


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