Re: PESO: Union Station Grand Hall
On Nov 30, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Rick Womer wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317483size=lg Looks like a beautiful old building and a great restoration job. Reminds me a bit of the QVB in Sydney. About the best they can manage here is to keep the facade of an old building and put a completely new one up inside it. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Journalistic Ethics and Photography
Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story. Some might find it interesting. Cheers, Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Passing Courtland Street Station
Both of them are good photos, Ann. I like the second one the most, though. Carlos ann sanfedele escribió: I threw this into a DGRIN challenge on smugmug - at least, I think I did... it was so f'ing confusing I'm not sure the shot got in... the theme was clarity or diffusion... guess which one I took :-) http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/6668550_NAGh5/1/426449740_cu6qM/Large Yesterday, while maniacs were storming Walmart and trampling clerks (some poor clerk was actually stomped to death by a mob of bargain seekers! ) I took a very empty subway train ride downtown to a friend's office near Wall street and then elsewehre to dinner... at 3:30 in the P.m.in New York, there was almost no one on the train... Before I took the shot, above, I took this one... yes, I was the only person in that car of the subway... amazing considering what day it was. http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/6668550_NAGh5/1/426933954_Pd5km/Large -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another from Union Station, St Louis
I like the lighting and colours. The two people do add i think. Dave On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These stairs lead up to the Great Hall (previous PESO). It took a while before people came along and paused in just the right position. The red jacket was a bonus. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317477 K10D, FA 28/2.8, ISO 800, f/2.8 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW via LR2. (That used to be your lens, Godders!) Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 7:17 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Karl would probably be amused. Paul I was trying to keep it non political.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
Ouch. Two very PJ style photos. I can easily see them in newspaper or news website, especially #1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/2008 8:52 PM http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4931f205264831615127668! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico? Carl That's _Karl_. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
Well done. Nice composition and good light. I might work on the color temperature and tint a bit. It has a wee bit of green cast. Paul On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
Well recorded. Is the second one a Circuit City store? I stopped by one in my neighborhood. They're not exactly giving things away. Prices are still higher than web vendors. Paul On Nov 29, 2008, at 10:52 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Yup ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
In a message dated 11/30/2008 6:45:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well recorded. Is the second one a Circuit City store? I stopped by one in my neighborhood. They're not exactly giving things away. Prices are still higher than web vendors. Paul = No, different store. I've gone to Circuit City twice, it appears to me that they bumped their prices up before the discounts. You can find the same things other places, cheaper. Thanks for looking. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
In a message dated 11/30/2008 5:51:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ouch. Two very PJ style photos. I can easily see them in newspaper or news website, especially #1. = Thanks. What I was aiming for, some straight documentation. I will intersperse other stuff. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
In a message dated 11/29/2008 7:43:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew = Nicely done. I think, though, you could lighten up your face just a tad. HTH, Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the yellowish cast by adding some blue. On my monitor it also looks a little dark so I'd have to lighten it for my system - YMMV. Other options for single flash could include some sort of light modifier on the flash itself. Paul has shown some excellent work using both LumiQuest and LightSphere products. I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this - http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/ You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials. http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/ Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes open, especially when you're working with a little one. -p PN Stenquist wrote: You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
Paul, Good suggestion. I've bought a Lightsphere now, but the 'build your own' better bounce card is a cheap alternative. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the yellowish cast by adding some blue. On my monitor it also looks a little dark so I'd have to lighten it for my system - YMMV. Other options for single flash could include some sort of light modifier on the flash itself. Paul has shown some excellent work using both LumiQuest and LightSphere products. I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this - http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/ You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials. http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/ Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes open, especially when you're working with a little one. -p PN Stenquist wrote: You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
Marnie, I especially like #3 as a window shot. The girl makes the shot. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:06:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I especially like #3 as a window shot. The girl makes the shot. Regards, Bob S. == Thanks, Bob. I've been thinking I need to put more people in my shots to make them more grabbing. I'll take that as confirmation, that, yes, I do. Marnie :-) On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
On Nov 30, 2008, at 8:49 AM, PN Stenquist wrote: You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak. Thanks Paul. Yes indeed the bounce was off the same colored wall. I didn't have any white poster board on hand but I see what you mean with the slight colorcast. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Some excellent suggestions from Paul...You can get rid of the yellowish cast by adding some blue. On my monitor it also looks a little dark so I'd have to lighten it for my system - YMMV. Other options for single flash could include some sort of light modifier on the flash itself. Paul has shown some excellent work using both LumiQuest and LightSphere products. I've had some good luck going the cheap route using this - http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/ I have read a bit about LightSphere and similar products. Sounds quite interesting. You can also check out David Ziser's blog - he's a quite successful photographer in the Cincinnati area and has some good tutorials. http://www.digitalprotalk.blogspot.com/ Thanks for the links. Nice family portrait - it's hard to get one with everyone's eyes open, especially when you're working with a little one. No kidding. That was the best of about 108 exposures. :-) -p PN Stenquist wrote: You did well in regard to the direction and diffusion of the light. The color cast I mentioned in another post is probably due to bouncing off the mustard colored wall, if that is what you did. Using a piece of white posterboard or a studio umbrella on a stand as a reflector would avoid that. But I think you have a great photo here that would be enhanced by a slight color tweak. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: On Nov 29, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Cute shot , nice exposure. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
#3 is really good. The slight motion blur makes clear that she's moving on, which is a strong statement in the context of the picture. Many businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned and replaced, not fixed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 10:25 AM More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4932b09068663836611520! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO A very common bird
Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Passing Courtland Street Station
Subash wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:02:48 -0500 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I threw this into a DGRIN challenge on smugmug - at least, I think I did... it was so f'ing confusing I'm not sure the shot got in... the theme was clarity or diffusion... guess which one I took :-) http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/6668550_NAGh5/1/426449740_cu6qM/Large all that DGRIN and stuff is latin and greek to me, all the more unsettling because it is actually in english. ;-)) the photo does have a nice post-modernist feel (?) to it regards, subash -- Subash, you don't know how glad I am someone else found the Dgrin stuff confusing and annoying. I think the term you want for my photo in these environs is theraultian :-) Glad you like it. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO A very common bird
Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
Mike, interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. -Brendan --- Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story. Some might find it interesting. Cheers, Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
Good one, Matt. Thise are tricky shots to get. I have to set one up with two kids this year. We'll see how that goes. -Brendan --- Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:28:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #3 is really good. The slight motion blur makes clear that she's moving on, which is a strong statement in the context of the picture. Many businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned and replaced, not fixed. Thanks, Rob. Yup, lots of smaller businesses are going under. (Or might go under. Probably can't tell until after Xmas.) Marnie aka Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 10:25 AM More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Another from Union Station, St Louis
In a message dated 11/30/2008 5:44:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like the lighting and colours. The two people do add i think. Dave What he said. I also like the lines and their placement in the frame. Well done. Marnie aka Doe :-) On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These stairs lead up to the Great Hall (previous PESO). It took a while before people came along and paused in just the right position. The red jacket was a bonus. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317477 K10D, FA 28/2.8, ISO 800, f/2.8 @ 1/10, handheld, RAW via LR2. (That used to be your lens, Godders!) Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
Good stuff. The reflections make both of these work harder. Number 3 is my overall favorite thus far. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 1:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:28:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #3 is really good. The slight motion blur makes clear that she's moving on, which is a strong statement in the context of the picture. Many businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned and replaced, not fixed. Thanks, Rob. Yup, lots of smaller businesses are going under. (Or might go under. Probably can't tell until after Xmas.) Marnie aka Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 10:25 AM More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002 ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Family Christmas Portrait
Nice shot and a nice looking family! The lighting of your spouse and progeny looks good, but the light on you has that bounced-flash look. Assuming that you were using wireless flash, was the pop-up flash set to master (on) or controller (off)? It's the second-to-last item on the last screen of the K10D Custom menu. I've found that the combination of master mode and RAW produces the best results. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks all. Anyone have any tips for this sort of shot with a single flash? I pretty mush just focused on trying to find some way to bounce the light around. Directional flash was a no go in this situation. - Original Message - From: Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
I'm going with the crowd, and also say i like number 3 a bit more than number 4. Both fit your portfolio fine. Dave On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
Looks like it worked out well. Nice card shot. Dave On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Matthew Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- Matthew -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch. Two very PJ style photos. I can easily see them in newspaper or news website, especially #1. What Steve said. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/2008 8:52 PM http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4931f205264831615127668! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/29 Sat PM 09:54:47 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Canadian Meteor On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico? Harrison. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 171 - GDG
Both have theier marits, but i find the BW a bit more dramatic than the colour one. I like the green light in the second one. Dave On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shooting at and beyond dusk last night in Santa Cruz, I photographed the Santa Cruz Breakwater Lighthouse. Do you like the BW rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-bw.jpg or the color rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-c.jpg In Mists And Dusk - Santa Cruz 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 50-200/2.8-3.5 + Olympus EC14 teleconverter ISO 100 @ f/6.3 @ 15 seconds, fl=255mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
It's Steve, but I'm honored by the comparison. ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 1:33 PM In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:28:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #3 is really good. The slight motion blur makes clear that she's moving on, which is a strong statement in the context of the picture. Many businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned and replaced, not fixed. Thanks, Rob. Yup, lots of smaller businesses are going under. (Or might go under. Probably can't tell until after Xmas.) Marnie aka Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 10:25 AM More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4932dc91264831313313525! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: day's end
Good shot. The bit of motion blur makes the title fit well. Dave On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Subash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, something i took on the way home today at the metro rail station at the end of a rather depressing day weatherwise and otherwise: http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/PESO#5274116990880391090 K10D, FA35/2, raw, digikam... appreciate your comments, regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ode to shopping, this time a story
Hi! Please have a look here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/11/ode-to-shopping-cont.html This is most amazing thing so far that happened to me with regard to my photographs. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Steve, but I'm honored by the comparison. ;-) LOL. I spent 34 years at one company, and most of the survey staff and some manager, called me Bernie. As long as my cheque was cashable, go for it.:-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: # of PDML Subscribers?
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:26:29 -0500, John Sessoms wrote: it's 42 in some numbering systems. What base? I tried duodecimal [base12] (6x9=46) and hexadecimal [base 16] (6x9=36). Base 11 perhaps, but I couldn't find anyone who uses a Base 11 numbering system. It is base 13 actually (4 * 13 + 2 equals 54 decimal). Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Multiple posts
What what what do do do you you you say say say??? No, I see no triplication of posts. Boris Ken Waller wrote: Am I the only one getting multiple posts? I'm often getting two or three copies of a single post. Not consistent but it has been occurring for me the last several days. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Multiple posts
Me too! I'm getting lots lots of duplicate posts. Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Multiple posts What what what do do do you you you say say say??? No, I see no triplication of posts. Boris Ken Waller wrote: Am I the only one getting multiple posts? I'm often getting two or three copies of a single post. Not consistent but it has been occurring for me the last several days. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Let it snow
It must be quite slippery down these stairs... Boris Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: At last some halfways photogenic snow showers. This afternoon near Liège, Belgium: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15075063 Enjoy. :-) Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
Wow, great story, Boris. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net; PAW Project Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: Ode to shopping, this time a story Hi! Please have a look here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/11/ode-to-shopping-cont.html This is most amazing thing so far that happened to me with regard to my photographs. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
For some reason I am feeling very sad looking at these images... Boris PN Stenquist wrote: Last year, I noticed a strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It seemed that on one short stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves would leave an image that lasted for months after the leaves had blown away. On adjacent surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed that only one type of leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see that they endured for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing. This year the process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some of these autumn memories. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
Christine Aguila wrote: Wow, great story, Boris. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Christine I reckon I am not the one to thank. But thank you Christine, nonetheless *shy smile*. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Film
Good old days when Pentax had wonderfully retro MZ-5(n) cameras and Pentax 67 was acknowledged as a serious tool of serious photographers... Boris David J Brooks wrote: Looking through the archives. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1302793 Taken with K1000 Tmax and A 50 1.7. Any one remember these two folk.??? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
Well, you took the pic, you put the pic out there in the universe, the universe spoke back, you shared it with the list. Your actions are, indeed, part of the story :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story Christine Aguila wrote: Wow, great story, Boris. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Christine I reckon I am not the one to thank. But thank you Christine, nonetheless *shy smile*. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - (and a question) - Love on the Dancefloor
Frank, I reckon that sometimes the beauty of the captured moment gets overshadowed by technical nitpicking. I should tell you that if you did not write all the story quoted below and just shown a picture, I wouldn't have thought about this at all. It is simply very good picture and frankly, I could care less about the amount of noise reduction you applied or specifics of b/w conversion that you used. Sorry, if this is the answer that you did not expect. Boris frank theriault wrote: Someone recently complained that my PESOs have been too sharp lately. http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/love-on-dancefloor.html Okay, but seriously, I'm happy with this. Had I processed it in PS I'd have used plenty of noise reduction which would have helped a lot, but you can only look at and comment on what's on your screen right now, I understand that. I hope you think it's a cool photo, too. Let me know. I do have a question, though. There appear to be horizontal lines going across this image, the most obvious one going through the female's upper eye. What are these? I've not noticed them on other images. I don't know if it's a problem with the camera, the card or the computer. Any ideas? thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
Hmmm... Which of course begs a question of whether do you have an education in precise sciences, as you come across like a very mathematician like here ;-). Boris Christine Aguila wrote: Well, you took the pic, you put the pic out there in the universe, the universe spoke back, you shared it with the list. Your actions are, indeed, part of the story :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
In a message dated 11/30/2008 10:52:20 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good stuff. The reflections make both of these work harder. Number 3 is my overall favorite thus far. Paul = Thanks, Paul. Well, that's why I am sharing stuff. So eventually I can weed them down. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
In a message dated 11/30/2008 10:58:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm going with the crowd, and also say i like number 3 a bit more than number 4. Both fit your portfolio fine. Dave Thanks, Dave. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:02:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch. Two very PJ style photos. I can easily see them in newspaper or news website, especially #1. What Steve said. Dave = Ditto, Thanks. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:06:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Steve, but I'm honored by the comparison. ;-) = LOL, oops. Don't know why, but always confused your guy's names. You'd think with all the Dave's on list, it would be someone else. Sorry. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
Very well caught shot with an interesting description. Like the spot on focus, exposure and serene water. Jack --- On Sun, 11/30/08, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO A very common bird To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:25 AM Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:09:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! Please have a look here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/11/ode-to-shopping-cont.html This is most amazing thing so far that happened to me with regard to my photographs. Boris Interesting. Nice epilogue to your shot. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
Mike, Interesting phenomenon and a good photo. The Michael Jackson of moorhens... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Let it snow
Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be quite slippery down these stairs... It is indeed. Half of the city lies in the slopes of the Meuse valley. Any decent snowshower or, better still, the odd rainfall after a period of solid frost can easily bring the whole city traffic to a complete standstill. Just imagine living here... http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15132185 ...on a day with black ice. You can't even leave such a place by foot because you'll be sitting on your rear the moment you step out of the door. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
Well, I'm glad you had a look, but I'm sorry that they made you sad:-). The only pictures that make me sad are the once in a lifetime moments that are three stops underexposed:-). On Nov 30, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: For some reason I am feeling very sad looking at these images... Boris PN Stenquist wrote: Last year, I noticed a strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It seemed that on one short stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves would leave an image that lasted for months after the leaves had blown away. On adjacent surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed that only one type of leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see that they endured for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing. This year the process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some of these autumn memories. Paul http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ode to shopping, this time a story
Very nice. A touching story. Thanks for sharing it. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Please have a look here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/11/ode-to-shopping-cont.html This is most amazing thing so far that happened to me with regard to my photographs. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
Mike -- love it -- how great to get to see that! he/she is quite a bit more interesting moorhen than the normal coloration. We could get into a silly thread about the gender of moorhens - but we wont, right? ann From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO A very common bird To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:25 AM Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
A nice shot. The reflection makes it secial. Paul -- Original message -- From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike -- love it -- how great to get to see that! he/she is quite a bit more interesting moorhen than the normal coloration. We could get into a silly thread about the gender of moorhens - but we wont, right? ann From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO A very common bird To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:25 AM Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Multiple posts
On Nov 29, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: John, I was on the digest for many months this summer, and I finally had to give up and go to one at a time viewing. The digest screws up in so many ways at random intervals, leaving out all the headers, so you don't know what's from who, not publishing the on such and such so and so wrote, publishing a whole list of nothing but the headers, sending out duplicates (2 of every message in the same digest.) . When someone reports that it has not hiccup'd in six months, I may go back to it, as it is more effecient use of my time. Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time This is the first I've heard of it, Joe. I get the digest delivered to two addresses and haven't seen these issues with either one in the random samples I've checked. I'll take a closer look at them to see if I have examples of what you mentioned. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self-images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which reality should be portrayed. IMHO. stan On Nov 30, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Mike, interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. -Brendan --- Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story. Some might find it interesting. Cheers, Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self-images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which reality should be portrayed. IMHO. stan I'd tend to agree. A portrait photographer is NOT a reporter or journalist and operates under a different set of ethics. And in general the portrait photographers mentioned do so very clearly. Jill Greenberg is an exception in that on the McCain incident. What she did was clearly contrary to what the Editor requested. Of course if the Editor had done some proper homework they would have known that she's a known publicity hound with no regards for her subjects at the best of times. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Let it snow
Nice shot, Ralf -- except... it looks too much like what I see from my window today in NY, weather wise - which has kept me inside all day so far... looks like it except for the the steep hil, of course :-) ann Boris Liberman wrote: It must be quite slippery down these stairs... Boris Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: At last some halfways photogenic snow showers. This afternoon near Liège, Belgium: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15075063 Enjoy. :-) Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Multiple posts
I've been getting the occasional multiple with other members, and always with my self. I've just turned off my Automatic BCC: option. Now I'll see if I still get multiple copies. Cheers Mike On Nov 28, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Am I the only one getting multiple posts? I'm often getting two or three copies of a single post. Not consistent but it has been occurring for me the last several days. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
Laughingly cheesy camera, but for the price, it gives good fun value. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_WPC/index.htm Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/30/2008 11:06:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Steve, but I'm honored by the comparison. ;-) = LOL, oops. Don't know why, but always confused your guy's names. You'd think with all the Dave's on list, it would be someone else. Dave's not here man. Dave Sorry. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/11/30 Sun PM 08:11:21 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO A very common bird Mike -- love it -- how great to get to see that! he/she is quite a bit more interesting moorhen than the normal coloration. We could get into a silly thread about the gender of moorhens - but we wont, right? ann Right. I'm certainly going to leave it to someone else to write Moorcock. Bugger. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO A very common bird To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:25 AM Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4
Hi Marnie: I like the 1st one (#3) best. The 2nd (#4) is hard to read but my eye sight isn't that great, so YMMV. :-) Anyway, # 3 is nice. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4 More... http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm I got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A very common bird
Hi Mike: Nice one. Everyone's already commented on color, reflection as being nice I agree. I also like the texture of the water. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: PESO A very common bird Suffering a rare condition. This is a moorhen (Gallinula chloropus) which is leucistic, a syndrome causing paler than normal colouring. It can occur either in patches of total loss, as here, or as a general fading overall, varying in intensity and coverage to the point where the animal is almost completely white. Not the same as albinism. http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253d=15159590 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
Wow, those Holga shots are great fun. The BW is really quite nice, Derby. Looks like you'll have lots of fun with your new camera. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris Laughingly cheesy camera, but for the price, it gives good fun value. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_WPC/index.htm Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ben10 and Epson R-D1
Thanks everyone. I enjoy babysitting. It's good to have someone to share toys with. D Christine Aguila wrote: Sweet! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:28 AM Subject: Ben10 and Epson R-D1 With the special powers of Ben10 goggles, anyone can master rangefinder photography http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_googles/01.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
Now there is a news flash! Sydney adopting something based on a Melbourne model?!? Nice shot. A bit of tension there from not knowing the rest of the story - I can't tell whether the woman on the right is oblivious and about to take a fall after putting her long stiletto heel through the water grate, or if she has gauged her stride and is going to casually step over the hazard... I can't understand how women can even walk in such shoes much less be able to navigate normal hazards like this. stan On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:27 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Laughingly cheesy camera, but for the price, it gives good fun value. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_WPC/index.htm Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self- images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which reality should be portrayed. IMHO. stan I'd tend to agree. A portrait photographer is NOT a reporter or journalist and operates under a different set of ethics. And in general the portrait photographers mentioned do so very clearly. Jill Greenberg is an exception in that on the McCain incident. What she did was clearly contrary to what the Editor requested. Of course if the Editor had done some proper homework they would have known that she's a known publicity hound with no regards for her subjects at the best of times. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us But first, Greenburg got the shot the editors wanted- the first image in the slide show. Since she posted the Evil McCain picture on her own web sight, she must not have sold exclusive use of the image to the magazine. In her position, I wouldn't even offer the image to the magazine. Then, at the end of the piece, she said that editors have sent her out with instructions to bring back unflattering pictures. So from her prospective, I can understand why she didn't consider it to be such a big deal. I guess it depends on how tightly her contract was written. BTW- I remember the Washington Post's photos of President Ronald Reagan were often less than flattering, so I guess that editorializing by photo isn't a particularly new concept. Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
Counting goes very well I see... Merlin On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 117 Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time On Nov 29, 2008, at 19:43 , Matthew Montgomery wrote: First time taking an indoor, primarily flash lit, family portrait for this year's Christmas card. This was with a K10D, a DA 21mm and a 540 flash. To get anything decent I had to bounce the flash off the wall behind the camera. By the way, the blinking red light in wireless remote mode worked well as an entertainment source for the kid. :-) http://electricjunk.smugmug.com/photos/426997365_CCwoz-L.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 171 - GDG
I prefer color version mostly because of the reflection. It reminds me of a rainbow. Maybe partial coloring would be interesting... Merlin On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shooting at and beyond dusk last night in Santa Cruz, I photographed the Santa Cruz Breakwater Lighthouse. Do you like the BW rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-bw.jpg or the color rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-c.jpg In Mists And Dusk - Santa Cruz 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 50-200/2.8-3.5 + Olympus EC14 teleconverter ISO 100 @ f/6.3 @ 15 seconds, fl=255mm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
NPR's Car was bombed today
Hi- NPR's armored car was bombed today. No human casualties- they were very fortunate. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97618965 Iraqi police warned them of the bomb, and moments later it went off. So, no one was hurt. Eggs on side-walk were undamaged. However, the car was reduced to a burning hulk. They got audio of the police warning, and then the explosion. Now, for the on topic bit- the reporter, Ivan Watson, got a nice group of pictures on the web. I imagine it was a Canon G10, since that is what they have been buying lately. If anyone cares, I can find out for sure. The big irony is that they were in a kabob house, doing a story on the improving security situation in Baghdad. The audio should be up in a few hours- maybe 7 or 8 pm EDT Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
I think someone should call Mr. Adams that we solved the problem with the question of everything :-D Merlin On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:26:29 -0500, John Sessoms wrote: it's 42 in some numbering systems. What base? I tried duodecimal [base12] (6x9=46) and hexadecimal [base 16] (6x9=36). Base 11 perhaps, but I couldn't find anyone who uses a Base 11 numbering system. It is base 13 actually (4 * 13 + 2 equals 54 decimal). Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
Is it really that bad in US? Or these paranoia series are just some very well chosen photos to show problems there? Merlin PS: I have never been to US... On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
Nicely done- looks like the start of a long friendship... How long has Holga been making a Panoramic Pinhole? Now, another piece of gear to lust after.. Cheers Mike On Nov 30, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Laughingly cheesy camera, but for the price, it gives good fun value. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_WPC/index.htm Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Opinion of Jobo Giga One Ultra Image Storage Tank
Bill, I have no experience with that particular unit, but I've been using a similar unit - Vosonics X's-Drive II VP2060 (no viewing screen) for the last 4 years with no issue until recently. I started using HDSD cards and found out just before a week long shoot that it won't take these cards. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opinion of Jobo Giga One Ultra Image Storage Tank Has anyone any experience with this item? I need a storage device for use in the field. Reliability is key, I'll be using it for a trip to the Peruvian Amazon. I cant afford one of the viewing devices, such as an Epson, and want to keep the cost under $200 for 80 gigabytes. Can anyone help? TIA Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
I forgot he passed away :( I wil try to find the publisher company so they can print the next book based on our research... Merlin On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Merlin Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think someone should call Mr. Adams that we solved the problem with the question of everything :-D Merlin On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:26:29 -0500, John Sessoms wrote: it's 42 in some numbering systems. What base? I tried duodecimal [base12] (6x9=46) and hexadecimal [base 16] (6x9=36). Base 11 perhaps, but I couldn't find anyone who uses a Base 11 numbering system. It is base 13 actually (4 * 13 + 2 equals 54 decimal). Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. If you study front page photos of politicians that have appeared in the New York Times, for example, you'll see that they are extremely guilty in this regard. I suppose that some conservative papers do the same to the other side, although I can't say for sure. I read only the liberal Times and the conservative Wall Street Journal. The Journal doesn't use photos, only line-art drawings, which are consistently middle of the road. Paul On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Beaker wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self- images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which reality should be portrayed. IMHO. stan I'd tend to agree. A portrait photographer is NOT a reporter or journalist and operates under a different set of ethics. And in general the portrait photographers mentioned do so very clearly. Jill Greenberg is an exception in that on the McCain incident. What she did was clearly contrary to what the Editor requested. Of course if the Editor had done some proper homework they would have known that she's a known publicity hound with no regards for her subjects at the best of times. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us But first, Greenburg got the shot the editors wanted- the first image in the slide show. Since she posted the Evil McCain picture on her own web sight, she must not have sold exclusive use of the image to the magazine. In her position, I wouldn't even offer the image to the magazine. Then, at the end of the piece, she said that editors have sent her out with instructions to bring back unflattering pictures. So from her prospective, I can understand why she didn't consider it to be such a big deal. I guess it depends on how tightly her contract was written. BTW- I remember the Washington Post's photos of President Ronald Reagan were often less than flattering, so I guess that editorializing by photo isn't a particularly new concept. Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
In a message dated 11/30/2008 2:38:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it really that bad in US? Or these paranoia series are just some very well chosen photos to show problems there? Merlin PS: I have never been to US... On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. === Yes. Approximately 1 million foreclosed on. 27% of that approximately in California. Supposedly 10,000 in my county alone. Latest figures I heard were 10 million unemployed (though it seems hard to believe and I can't swear to that, but figure its several million). Arnold is balancing CA's budget by taking away some benefits from disabled, taking away some teacher's pensions, cutting pensions, closing schools, and removing renters' credit. So CA, in particular, is hard hit. OTOH, newspapers and news magazines, and even TV, I suppose, are not putting faces to the figures (or store fronts to the figures). Not that I can see. It's like everyone is pretending it isn't happening and that everything is going along as normal. Which I find weird. My paranoia series is about more than that. But some of it is just to redress what I DON'T SEE (in media). Later, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self-images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which reality should be portrayed. IMHO. stan I'd tend to agree. A portrait photographer is NOT a reporter or journalist and operates under a different set of ethics. And in general the portrait photographers mentioned do so very clearly. Jill Greenberg is an exception in that on the McCain incident. What she did was clearly contrary to what the Editor requested. Of course if the Editor had done some proper homework they would have known that she's a known publicity hound with no regards for her subjects at the best of times. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us But first, Greenburg got the shot the editors wanted- the first image in the slide show. Since she posted the Evil McCain picture on her own web sight, she must not have sold exclusive use of the image to the magazine. In her position, I wouldn't even offer the image to the magazine. Then, at the end of the piece, she said that editors have sent her out with instructions to bring back unflattering pictures. So from her prospective, I can understand why she didn't consider it to be such a big deal. I guess it depends on how tightly her contract was written. BTW- I remember the Washington Post's photos of President Ronald Reagan were often less than flattering, so I guess that editorializing by photo isn't a particularly new concept. Cheers Mike The problem here is that McCain had an agreement with the magazine for a cover shoot. Greenberg doing here own thing after getting the cover shot embarrassed the magazine since they'd arranged the subject and that wasn't part of the deal. Greenberg had tricked McCain into the additional setup. It would have been different if she'd briefed him beforehand. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
Merlin, I think the problems are more in California and Florida, where house prices and sales were very high and New York (financials). I live in the middle of the country in Illinois, near Chicago, where home prices and sales were not so ridiculously inflated. The home sales market is slow here, but I would have to search for a home that was posted with a bank forclosure sign. The same is true with commercial real estate (businesses). They have slower sales, but haven't closed (yet???). People are concerned and jobs/employment will tell us what the future holds. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Merlin Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really that bad in US? Or these paranoia series are just some very well chosen photos to show problems there? Merlin PS: I have never been to US... On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2008 - 171 - GDG
Ditto - very dramatic. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila Sent: 30 November 2008 02:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO 2008 - 171 - GDG Hi Godfrey: Wow, stunning, but I have to say I like the bw much better than the color. I find the green color of the lighthouse too overpowering; it upstages all the other elements in the frame. I much prefer the bw for this reason. Still, you captured a lovely, lovely scene. Great work as usual. Cheers, Christine Do you like the BW rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-bw.jpg or the color rendering ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/171-lighthouse-dusk-c.jpg In Mists And Dusk - Santa Cruz 2008 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 50-200/2.8-3.5 + Olympus EC14 teleconverter ISO 100 @ f/6.3 @ 15 seconds, fl=255mm Comments and critique always appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Interesting photography article on BC web site
Wonderful stuff. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derby Chang Sent: 29 November 2008 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interesting photography article on BC web site Mark Roberts wrote: Photographer shoots the works of Isambard Kingdom Brunel with period camera. Cool stuff -- even worth enabling Flash in your browser ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7753000/7753202.stm That's the answer to being hassled by the rozzers. Have a mortar-like camera and bumble around. Great link. I think I'm going to use the adjective Brunellian soon. Derby -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Union Station Grand Hall
Thanks, Bob. The doors in the middle of the right-hand wall lead to a staircase down to the midway, and thence to the platforms. Ditto doorways one can't see in this shot in the far right corner and near right corner. I've never been to the Pittsburgh station--in fact, I'm embarrassed to say that I've never been to Pittsburgh. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Union Station Grand Hall To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:25 AM Rick, Beautiful station, beautiful shot if somewhat visually confusing. I can't find the doors to the trains. Have you seen the station in Pittsburg? It was a restaurant the last time I visited, but still a fantastic structure. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left Denver last month and traveled to St. Louis, where I had a day of shooting while my wife toiled. This is the Grand Hall of Union Station. The station is a huge and glorious structure, built in the 1890s and once the largest and busiest railroad station in the U.S. In the 1930s and 1940s it served 400 trains and 100,000 passengers daily. Abandoned in the 1970s, it was restored in the 1980s as hotels, convention center, and shopping mall. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317483size=lg K10D, DA 10-17 fisheye, ISO 800, f/3.5 @ 1/20, handheld, RAW via LR2. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: # of PDML Subscribers?
You're looking for someone with 11 fingers... John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, Merlin Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You mean like 6 by 9? Merlin That's 54, isn't it? Not the same thing at all... it's 42 in some numbering systems. What base? I tried duodecimal [base12] (6x9=46) and hexadecimal [base 16] (6x9=36). Base 11 perhaps, but I couldn't find anyone who uses a Base 11 numbering system. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
On Nov 30, 2008, at 13:27 , Derby Chang wrote: Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm Now there's a bit o'slang from down under I've not heard before. Laneways. Is that the same as an alley, or does something about it designate it laneway. In our big cities this is where you get mugged. A bit further out in the near urban neighborhoods it's where the trash is picked up. In my life, it's where I live! :-) Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Family Christmas Portrait
Yes, but not as well as I thought I was doing. DIscovered I had someone twice this morning, so it's back to 116. 116 Joseph McAllister Pentaxian On Nov 30, 2008, at 14:26 , Merlin Who wrote: Counting goes very well I see... Merlin On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 117 Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Canadian Meteor
Having read Das Kapital. well the first three chapters, before giving up and reading Engels cliff notes, I doubt old Karl was very much amused by anything... PN Stenquist wrote: No. Karl would probably be amused. Paul On Nov 29, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Cotty wrote: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: On 29/11/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: I believe Marx drank at the Museum Tavern, no? Cheers, Christine Grouch, Harpo or Chico? Carl Yep, that's the one Did I really need to put a smiley? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO x2 - From My Archives
Loggers and preservationists faced off in the mountains near Eden, New South Wales, in 1989. Police presence kept tempers in check. It was a running campaign of protests and counter protests, with the loggers blockading roads to keep preservationists away from logging sites, and the greenies attempting to infiltrate the blockaded areas overnight. After some days everyone got bored and went home. I was there for a client with some Pentaxes and a ship-load of Kodachrome. IIRC I used a Pentax SMC-M 24~35 1:3.5 for these shots. It was damn cold, and snow was on the mountain peaks. At the summit of one mountain, where the police had their radio communication centre set up in a caravan, I had to put my cameras inside my coat between shots to keep the batteries alive. These shots make me a little nostalgic for film. The time I spent retouching fungus off the images cured that nostalgia. Showdown in Eden, http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/3068259850/in/photostream/ Keeping an Eye on Things, http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/3068260666/in/photostream Comments welcome. Regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lyon
Just back from an extremely enjoyable weekend in Lyon with some friends, stuffing our faces with the produce of the food capital of the world. In the very short periods between gargantuan meals I staggered outside long enough to take some pictures. Here's a few - I went a bit mad with the Aged Photo preset. More to follow. http://www.web-options.com/Lyon1/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs: Holga WPC 120 and Tetris
2008/12/1 Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 30, 2008, at 13:27 , Derby Chang wrote: Laneways in Sydney are being developed as entertainment precincts, based on the model in Melbourne. We aren't there yet, but this is a good start http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_tetris/01.htm Now there's a bit o'slang from down under I've not heard before. Laneways. Not an Aussie term, it's a proper' English name for a narrow road or access/service road. The Poms use the term more than us. Derby, great shot. one of the local flickr members was over there recently got a shot of this. I laughed myself silly when I saw it. I love Tetris. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2
In a message dated 11/30/2008 3:19:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Merlin, I think the problems are more in California and Florida, where house prices and sales were very high and New York (financials). I live in the middle of the country in Illinois, near Chicago, where home prices and sales were not so ridiculously inflated. The home sales market is slow here, but I would have to search for a home that was posted with a bank forclosure sign. The same is true with commercial real estate (businesses). They have slower sales, but haven't closed (yet???). People are concerned and jobs/employment will tell us what the future holds. Regards, Bob S. == I think Bob is overly optimistic, Merlin. I double checked the statistics, 10 million unemployed is correct. This comes from government figures. The unemployment rate rose by 0.4 percentage point to 6.5 percent in October, and the number of unemployed persons increased by 603,000 to 10.1 million. Over the past 12 months, the number of unemployed persons has increased by 2.8 mil- lion, and the unemployment rate has risen by 1.7 percentage points. That's one heck of a lot of people out of work. Yesterday, when I was taking some pictures, I went into a major department store. Not lower end. To get people to buy they had marked things down by 40-50%. Some real buys there if one wanted them. (I double checked the prices, unlike Circuit City, they really were discounted by that much.) Of course, I think the reason some people don't see it as bad as it really is is because of lack of media coverage. It is increasing all the time, but right now it is still minimal. Later, Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
