RE: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Bob W
Good luck with efunderates. 


 
 No Bob - 12 days to look at it and wonder, 45 seconds to Google it and
 realize where you got it from!
 And you're at it again! Now I'll have to Google  logorrhoeal effluvia
 efunderates.
 
 
 John in Brisbane
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
 Behalf Of Bob
 W
 Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:23 PM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: Peso: Warning - cat photo
 
  
  Couldn't resist trying to find out whether Bob W. made these 
  words up or
  not:  a Google search revealed the truth!
  Bob, you have way too much time on your hands!
  
 
 tu quoque! It must have taken me all of 2 minutes to find 
 them. It seems to
 have taken you 12 days!
 
 SNIP
 
 The key, you see, is the work 'inkhorn'. Google that and a 
 cornucopeia of
 logorrhoeal effluvia efunderates.
 
 Bob



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RE: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Bob W
 John Coyle wrote:
 
 No Bob - 12 days to look at it and wonder, 45 seconds to 
 Google it and
 realize where you got it from!
 And you're at it again! Now I'll have to Google  
 logorrhoeal effluvia
 efunderates.
 
 
 John in Brisbane
 
 
 
   
 
 How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
 
 (you guys write the punch line :-)
 
 ann

None. We use bayonet mounts.

Or

None. We don't screw lightbulbs in, we encochleate illuminants.

Bob


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RE: Laundering a Domke F2

2009-03-06 Thread Bob W
 
 Bob W wrote:
  I just chuck it in at 40 degrees, without soap.
 
 F or C?  They're pretty different :-) , and I don't remember 
 if you in 
 the metric world or the imperial world.  My washer's 
 Cold simply 
 means whatever temperature comes out of the cold tap.  Around here, 
 that's typically in the 50s, Fahrenheit, at this time of year.
 


C



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OT: ...and so to blog

2009-03-06 Thread Bob W
Samuel Pepys's blog:

http://www.pepysdiary.com/

Bob


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Re: OT: ...and so to blog

2009-03-06 Thread AlunFoto
old news.
Indeed, very old news.
Thanks for posting. Interesting even for a non-brit. :-)
Jostein

2009/3/6 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 Samuel Pepys's blog:

 http://www.pepysdiary.com/

 Bob


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Re: Laundering a Domke F2

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson
I think folks are looking for that rugged, lived-in look.  As the bags are 
canvas, my suggestion would be to tie them to the mast of a tea-clipper for a 
quick once around the Horn.  Should work a treat.  Not recommended for Lowepro.

 John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: 
 Don't you just hose them down and let them stand in the sun.   They 
 usually work any rough spots out by scratching on the fence rail.Be 
 careful though, they can and do bite is provoked.
 
 John Graves
 WA1JG
 
 
 
 Doug Franklin wrote:
  Bob W wrote:
  I wash mine from time to time. It makes them look better. 
 
  Do you do anything special in terms of handling them?  My normal 
  laundry is cold water on the gentle cycle in the wash, and the 
  knits/gentle dryer cycle, which I hope would be OK for the heavy 
  cotton canvas of the Domke bag.


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Re: New Roadmap up

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: mike wilson 
 Subject: Re: New Roadmap up
 
 
 
  
   A promise of a promise isn't much to go on, is it?
   
   Whene you're desperate it's often enough...
  
  You married David?
  
  You missed the comma after married, Bill.
  
 
 edit
 
 You married, David?
 
 /edit
 
 Hey, it works on the forum.

I wasn't (still am not) sure if you were asking a question or expressing an 
interest.  I know it's been a long, cold winter up there.

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RE: Shutter cockers

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
   
   if only that were true. It's in Milton Keynes at the moment 
  having the beer
   cleaned out of the shutter release mechanism. 
  
  I was going to say that lack of beerproofness ruled it out on 
  my part but then I realised that I drink cider.  Could you 
  possibly do a tiny, teeny test for me?
  
 
 Sure, no problem. Book me a remote little house in Brittany for the rest of
 the year, pay my salary and expenses, and I'll test it with every single
 brut artisan cider I can find in Brittany, Normandy and Mayenne. 
 
 Oh, and you'll need to give me a spare M8.2, preferably black, that I can
 use as a control.

You'll be needing an independent observer.

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Re: PESO: untitled

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Here's a photo that I caught yesterday.
 Some things made the situation unique.
 I don't know if this captures it.
 Tell me what you feel.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8667736size=lg

Mildly confused.  Although not an unusual situation for me, in this case it is 
due to me not being able to decide if the hand is picking or placing.  That 
makes this a good confuse.

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Re: Unsurprising sadness

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
  I popped into the distributor for Pentax today (and incidentally, Sigma,
  Hassie, iRiver, and a few other brands).
 
  I have an MX with a sticky shutter below 1/125s. I know they are justified
  in making the decision, but still instinctively a bit miffed they wouldn't
  take it for repair. Amazingly, they said even recent film AF cameras, such
  as MZ-5 or MZ-6 can't be supported. Alas.
 
 I'm surprised.
 
 I'd think that older mechanical cameras can (subject to parts
 availability from cannibalized parts bodies) should be serviceable in
 perpetuity.  I can see why AF cams can't be serviced (everything's
 electronic and replacement is required rather than adjustment or
 tuning), but as far as your camera?

Not logical.  Everything needs only spare parts and skill to be repaired.  
Older, higher production run models, may have a greater reservoir of new and 
secondhand spares but they will run out at some time.  There are many factors 
to consider.  I suggested over a decade ago that someone, somewhere (and who 
better than us?) should be collecting new parts to use as patterns for the time 
when they become unavailable from the manufacturer or other sources.  

 
 I guess the issue may be that the older service guy (or gal) has retired.
 
 There's a repair shop up here that'll do it for ya - but like other
 options presented in London, shipping cost would be an issue.


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Re: Unsurprising sadness

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: 
 As we age and hold on to our security blankets we should not be  
 surprised that we wear holes in them, and that no one considers them  
 worthy of repair.

Do I need to say it?

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PESO: PHOTOS OF PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC, CHARLES BRIDGE, ST-NICOLAS CHURCH.

2009-03-06 Thread Gae‘tan Beauchamp
Hello everyone! I didn't post for a long time now, in fact since July 
2008. At that time, I previously asked for information about Prague in 
Czech Republic. Some of you were as kind as to gave me more information, 
but at the cost of a few photos of the Charles Bridge! So here there 
are. Some photos are also taken in Brno and some are taken inside 
St-Nicola's Church. Everything is wonderful in Prague and Brno. It is 
like a Walt Disney for an old photographers, a constant joy for our 
eyes. Have a look and join me in this enjoyment. Of course, critiques, 
comments are welcome as usual.


http://photo.net/photod/folder?folder_id=898729

Gaetan B.

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Re: PESO: PHOTOS OF PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC, CHARLES BRIDGE, ST-NICOLAS CHURCH.

2009-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist

photo.net page not found error
On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:03 AM, Gae‘tan Beauchamp wrote:

Hello everyone! I didn't post for a long time now, in fact since  
July 2008. At that time, I previously asked for information about  
Prague in Czech Republic. Some of you were as kind as to gave me  
more information, but at the cost of a few photos of the Charles  
Bridge! So here there are. Some photos are also taken in Brno and  
some are taken inside St-Nicola's Church. Everything is wonderful in  
Prague and Brno. It is like a Walt Disney for an old photographers,  
a constant joy for our eyes. Have a look and join me in this  
enjoyment. Of course, critiques, comments are welcome as usual.


http://photo.net/photod/folder?folder_id=898729

Gaetan B.

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Re: PESO: PHOTOS OF PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC, CHARLES BRIDGE, ST-NICOLAS CHURCH.

2009-03-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Gaetan

You have an error in the web link.  I think it should be:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=898729


An interesting gallery although the crowds of people detract a bit.  It
must be tourist season!

I like the guy in the red jacket, bow tie and monkey What's he
selling?  And the photos of St Nicola's Church are excellent - very
ornate.


Cheers

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On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:03 -0500, Gae‘tan Beauchamp
li...@gaetanbeauchamp.ca wrote:
 Hello everyone! I didn't post for a long time now, in fact since July 
 2008. At that time, I previously asked for information about Prague in 
 Czech Republic. Some of you were as kind as to gave me more information, 
 but at the cost of a few photos of the Charles Bridge! So here there 
 are. Some photos are also taken in Brno and some are taken inside 
 St-Nicola's Church. Everything is wonderful in Prague and Brno. It is 
 like a Walt Disney for an old photographers, a constant joy for our 
 eyes. Have a look and join me in this enjoyment. Of course, critiques, 
 comments are welcome as usual.
 
 http://photo.net/photod/folder?folder_id=898729
 
 Gaetan B.
 
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2009-03-06 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks, Jack. Also Bob S, Christine, Frank, John, Joseph, Ken and
Marnie.  Comments much appreciated.

Ken

BTW I use my 300 all the time for landscapes.

Yes, I have to overcome my tendency to always reach for a wide angle
lens for landscapes.


John

And in the U.S. version of the English language, barbecued snags would be?

Very well cooked sausages of fairly ordinary quality and of unknown
composition (sometimes ignorance is a blessing)  :-)


A vertical composition could work if you wanted to emphasize the
foreground reflection of the trees. I might try something like that.

I looked at several ways to crop the original but no vertical crop
seemed to provide the 'balance' to the scene that the horizontal crop
achieved.


Bob S

Nice.  Did your original have more water or sky?

No sky - just equal amounts of trees and lake and it really didn't work
well.  



Cheers

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On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:22 -0800, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 Having done your considerable part, obviously, the 80~320 certainly
 performed well. Crisp image, with heavy crop, shot at 140mm.
 Like it, Brian!
 
 Jack
 
 
 --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
  From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
  Subject: PESO - Lakeside
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:51 AM
  G'day all
  
  I don't often use a telephoto lens for landscape work
  but I was attracted by the dark reflection of these trees in
  the water and, as I was quite a distance away, I had to use
  the 80-320 zoom.  
  
  This is a horizontal crop of the original image which I,
  for reasons only explainable by the several glasses of
  Hunter River Shiraz consumed previously, photographed in
  portrait format.
  
  The crop is just over half of the original. (As an aside, I
  resampled the crop back up to 6 MP and I'm happy with
  the result, but I could  have saved myself the trouble if
  I'd been competent enough to take a few shots in
  landscape format in the first place).
  
  
  http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/129678/Lakeside.html
  
  
  
  Comments, of course, are extremely welcome.
  
  
  Cheers
  
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WTB: Battery Grip for K10D

2009-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

As of recently I've been shooting *a lot* for my daughter's class and 
for the company where I work. It has finally :-) become obvious to me 
that with flash attached the best way to shoot in portrait orientation 
is with the grip attached as well.


If anyone has a K10D grip that they are willing to part with, I'd be 
happy to part with corresponding amount of money.


Please contact me off-list.

Thanks.

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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Allison Trueman

Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?



It is just for the effects photos. I have actually met with a few  couples 
before who wondered why I didn't have anything in my portfolio  with a 
fisheye at the back of the church during the ceremony. They do  also have 
the 12-24 or the Sigma 10-20 available, but my friend/2nd  shooter has 
that range covered with her D700. Since the couple has a  beautiful 
location for the ceremony and reception, and because they  are an 
attractive couple, I really want to use this wedding to expand  my 
portfolio. The lensbaby is going along too...




You can defish images that you want straight in post processing, so the 
fisheye isn't as limiting as it is being made out to be.


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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/3/09, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Dario Bonazza

annsanfedele wrote:


How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


All of them, and sometimes they are not enough ;-)

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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
But you lose FOV and image quality. When rectilinear super wide is  
what's needed, a rectilinear lens is the best choice.

Paul
On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:50 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Allison Trueman
Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?



It is just for the effects photos. I have actually met with a few   
couples before who wondered why I didn't have anything in my  
portfolio  with a fisheye at the back of the church during the  
ceremony. They do  also have the 12-24 or the Sigma 10-20  
available, but my friend/2nd  shooter has that range covered with  
her D700. Since the couple has a  beautiful location for the  
ceremony and reception, and because they  are an attractive couple,  
I really want to use this wedding to expand  my portfolio. The  
lensbaby is going along too...




You can defish images that you want straight in post processing, so  
the fisheye isn't as limiting as it is being made out to be.


William Robb

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PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 But you lose FOV and image quality. When rectilinear super wide is what's
 needed, a rectilinear lens is the best choice.

On the third hand, her clients want fisheye shots of the church, so a
fisheye lens is probably the best choice.

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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist

Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?


But you lose FOV and image quality. When rectilinear super wide is  what's 
needed, a rectilinear lens is the best choice.


She's already said why she wants the lens.
I've done a number of defishes from my 10-17. It leaves a field of view that 
is fairly close to, but still wider than the 12-24, and I haven't seen 
enough of a drop in image quality at the pixel level to cause a noticable 
drop in quality in print.
I find it funny that you have such iron clad views regarding photography, 
and at the same time,  very free wheeling views, bordering on a complete 
inability to give an honest critique regarding picture esthetics.


William Robb


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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Hunt

Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
wrote:



But you lose FOV and image quality. When rectilinear super wide is what's
needed, a rectilinear lens is the best choice.


On the third hand, her clients want fisheye shots of the church, so a
fisheye lens is probably the best choice.


I think Paul missed that part.

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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Jack Davis

Frank, did you put her up to that? ;) A definitive decisive moment.
Would like to be able to see a little more in the shadows on his face.
Good catch!

Jack


--- On Fri, 3/6/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - I'd Smile Too
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 6:32 AM
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2009-03-06 Thread Christian

Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I don't often use a telephoto lens for landscape work but I was attracted by the dark reflection of these trees in the water and, as I was quite a distance away, I had to use the 80-320 zoom.  


This is a horizontal crop of the original image which I, for reasons only 
explainable by the several glasses of Hunter River Shiraz consumed previously, 
photographed in portrait format.

The crop is just over half of the original. (As an aside, I resampled the crop 
back up to 6 MP and I'm happy with the result, but I could  have saved myself 
the trouble if I'd been competent enough to take a few shots in landscape 
format in the first place).


http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/129678/Lakeside.html


Nice shot and good edit (making it landscape rather than portrait). 
Love the light and color.


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Re: PESO - A Late Night Coffee

2009-03-06 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/late-night-coffee.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re: E: PESO - Lakeside

2009-03-06 Thread Christian

John Sessoms wrote:



And in the U.S. version of the English language, barbecued snags would 
be?


Sausages I think.

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

None. Ice cream has no bones.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:52 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


John Coyle wrote:


No Bob - 12 days to look at it and wonder, 45 seconds to

Google it and

realize where you got it from!
And you're at it again! Now I'll have to Google 

logorrhoeal effluvia

efunderates.


John in Brisbane






How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

(you guys write the punch line :-)

ann


None. We use bayonet mounts.

Or

None. We don't screw lightbulbs in, we encochleate illuminants.

Bob


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Re: LED Lighting...

2009-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila


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From: Rebekah rg2p...@gmail.com




.



Hi Rebekah:  How's Germany?  Any pics?  Hope all is well.  Cheers, Christine


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Tonight's the night! Foto Nova 19

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Those of you who are local and can make it to Palo Alto for the  
reception, I look forward to seeing you!


Modernbook Gallery
494 University Ave
Palo Alto, CA
  reception: 7-10pm this evening

Full info on the show and a preview can be obtained from my website.

For those who'd like to see the exhibit but cannot make it this  
evening, the show will be up until March 29, and the gallery is open  
every day from 11-7. I will be happy to arrange group events and  
personal times to be at the gallery with you. :-)



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Re: Tonight's the night! Foto Nova 19

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:
 Those of you who are local and can make it to Palo Alto for the reception, I
 look forward to seeing you!

 Modernbook Gallery
 494 University Ave
 Palo Alto, CA
  reception: 7-10pm this evening

 Full info on the show and a preview can be obtained from my website.

 For those who'd like to see the exhibit but cannot make it this evening, the
 show will be up until March 29, and the gallery is open every day from 11-7.
 I will be happy to arrange group events and personal times to be at the
 gallery with you. :-)

I'll be there in spirit, Godfrey.

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Re: LED Lighting...

2009-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila
h, that look pretty cool. Thanks for posting, Joseph.  Cheers, 
Christine




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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:01 AM
Subject: LED Lighting...


Instead of shoeboxes full of gels to get your mood lighting into your 
photos, or, to set your white balance BEFORE  you leave for that  theater 
shoot, here's an item that will make your day (or night).


http://www.gizmosforgeeks.com/2009/02/26/multi-color-lightbulb-with-remote/


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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Re: OT: ...and so to blog

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Samuel Pepys's blog:

 http://www.pepysdiary.com/

I think someone's pulling your chain here, Bob.

They didn't actually have computers back then.

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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
When I was shooting film for weddings, I had the fisheye zoom.  I
found it to be useful for about 2 or 3 shots in the whole wedding.
And if I had not shown those images, the client wouldn't have noticed.

These days, shooting digital APS-C, the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 are
the perfect pair for focal length and size to do weddings.  The old 
70-200/2.8's are
big and heavy and difficult to hand hold for long periods of time.

I rarely have need or desire to go wider than 16mm rectilinear when
shooting weddings.  I side with Paul that if you don't have the 16-50/2.8,
rent it instead of the fisheye.  You'll use it about 200:1 compared to
the fisheye.

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Friday, March 6, 2009, 6:18:04 AM, you wrote:

PS But you lose FOV and image quality. When rectilinear super wide is  
PS what's needed, a rectilinear lens is the best choice.
PS Paul
PS On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:50 AM, William Robb wrote:


 - Original Message - From: Allison Trueman
 Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?



 It is just for the effects photos. I have actually met with a few   
 couples before who wondered why I didn't have anything in my  
 portfolio  with a fisheye at the back of the church during the  
 ceremony. They do  also have the 12-24 or the Sigma 10-20  
 available, but my friend/2nd  shooter has that range covered with  
 her D700. Since the couple has a  beautiful location for the  
 ceremony and reception, and because they  are an attractive couple,  
 I really want to use this wedding to expand  my portfolio. The  
 lensbaby is going along too...


 You can defish images that you want straight in post processing, so  
 the fisheye isn't as limiting as it is being made out to be.

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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I like his expression.  This is a case where fill flash would have
really improved this.  The expression is great, but it is quite dark
and contrast is high.

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ft http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

ft Comments always welcome.

ft cheers,
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OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.

One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
viewing web images tend to get.

P.P.S. Here's me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg

:-D

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: 
 
 
 John Coyle wrote:
 
 No Bob - 12 days to look at it and wonder, 45 seconds to Google it and
 realize where you got it from!
 And you're at it again! Now I'll have to Google  logorrhoeal effluvia
 efunderates.
 
 
 John in Brisbane
 
 
 
   
 
 How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
 
 (you guys write the punch line :-)

One.  The fifty eight others photograph everything from the lint in his turnups 
to the particular stellar configuration in the sky outside.

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Re: PESO - A Late Night Coffee

2009-03-06 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/late-night-coffee.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



Modern day Hopper.  Very nicely done.

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Re: LED Lighting...

2009-03-06 Thread mike wilson

 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rebekah rg2p...@gmail.com
 
 
  .
 
 
 Hi Rebekah:  How's Germany?  Any pics?  Hope all is well.  Cheers, Christine

She seems to be enjoying herself.

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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
 my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

 Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
 studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
 was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
 of found props:

 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

 Direct link (~105kb)
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

Great.

Now I'll have to gouge my eyes out (again!).

Thanks.

cheers,
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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton

Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?



When I was shooting film for weddings, I had the fisheye zoom.  I
found it to be useful for about 2 or 3 shots in the whole wedding.
And if I had not shown those images, the client wouldn't have noticed.

These days, shooting digital APS-C, the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 are
the perfect pair for focal length and size to do weddings.  The old 
70-200/2.8's are

big and heavy and difficult to hand hold for long periods of time.

I rarely have need or desire to go wider than 16mm rectilinear when
shooting weddings.  I side with Paul that if you don't have the 16-50/2.8,
rent it instead of the fisheye.  You'll use it about 200:1 compared to
the fisheye.


For myself, I have yet to use a fisheye at a wedding but
The OP says she has a specific use for the thing, what's the problem with 
respecting that need?
For myself, I still shoot primes at weddings, I just can't seem to bring 
myself to shoot with slow zoom lenses.


William Robb 



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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Frank:  Another great moment caught.  Nice one, though this one I'd like 
a bit brighter  crisper--but that just personal preference--Good shot 
nonetheless.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO - I'd Smile Too



http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - A Late Night Coffee

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/late-night-coffee.html

 Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
 frank


 Modern day Hopper.  Very nicely done.

Thanks, Christian, and thanks to everyone else who commented.

To those who found the grain bothersome, first of all, it's not
grain, it's noise.  Grain is good.  Noise can be more problematic to
me - rarely as pretty as grain.  However, I kind of like the noise in
this shot:  it seems almost grain-like to me, which is a good thing.
I think it adds to the mood in this case.

However, to each her or his own, I guess.

;-)

thanks again,
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In Boston

2009-03-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Arrived in Boston yesterday. Busy days ahead but I'll get in a few 
photos when I can...


http://www.robertstech.com/temp/boston1.jpg


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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David Savage

Subject: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?





http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/



I can't even begin to describe how many things on how many levels are wrong 
with this.


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Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Bruce Walker

But who won?

Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications 
most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus Imaging's 
SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]


http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Christine Aguila





How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


About 7:  Ann would supervise.  Marnie would install the lightbulb; Ahmita 
(I apologize if I spelled your name wrong), Rebecca, and Christine would act 
as support: hold the stool, hand Marnie the lightbulb etc.  Wendy would 
handle the dogs meant to keep the grumpy old men at bay; and Allison would 
photograph the whole event with her newly rented Fish-eye lens.  We'd 
cheerfully chat the whole time and probably have lunch afterward.  :-)



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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:58:40AM +0900, David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,
 
 Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
 my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.
 
 Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
 studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
 was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
 of found props:
 
 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/
 
 Direct link (~105kb)
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

One mark of a good photographer is the ability to make a beautiful
picture of a less than beautiful subject, a great photographer can
make the subject look beautiful too.

I'd say you fall just short of greatness.

 
 D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda
 
 Enjoy.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
 P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.
 
 One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
 spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
 viewing web images tend to get.
 
 P.P.S. Here's me:
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg

For your sake, I hope your friend falls quite a bit short of
greatness.

Fun shots, well executed.

 
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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Walker 
Subject: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race




But who won?

Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications 
most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus Imaging's 
SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]


http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
http://snipurl.com/d951l



They probably figure that's all they'll be able to fit into the 4/3 format.

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Re: PESO - A Late Night Coffee

2009-03-06 Thread Luiz Felipe

Like if, Frank - today, with a clear mind, better than yesterday.

LF

frank theriault escreveu:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/late-night-coffee.html

Comments always welcome.

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Scanner question

2009-03-06 Thread Nick Wright
I'm still looking at scanners. I think I'm going to go with the Epson
V300. It's gotten good reviews from just about everywhere that I've
looked and it appears to be just what I'm looking for. And the price
is right.

But I noticed that the Epson package no longer includes Photoshop
Elements, so I'm wondering does the Epson software work as a
standalone program? Or will I need a separate image editor to access
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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Luiz Felipe

...amazing...

LF

David Savage escreveu:

G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.

One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
viewing web images tend to get.

P.P.S. Here's me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg

:-D

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Re: In Boston

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:
 Arrived in Boston yesterday. Busy days ahead but I'll get in a few photos
 when I can...

 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/boston1.jpg

Cool shot, Mark.  Look forward to more.

Have fun!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Luiz Felipe

Good grab...

LF

frank theriault escreveu:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

Comments always welcome.

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:



 How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

 About 7:  Ann would supervise.  Marnie would install the lightbulb; Ahmita
 (I apologize if I spelled your name wrong), Rebecca, and Christine would act
 as support: hold the stool, hand Marnie the lightbulb etc.  Wendy would
 handle the dogs meant to keep the grumpy old men at bay; and Allison would
 photograph the whole event with her newly rented Fish-eye lens.  We'd
 cheerfully chat the whole time and probably have lunch afterward.  :-)

So what you're saying is that the women would do all the work?

I can live with that...

;-)

cheers,
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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh God help us, the women are getting uppity!  Regards,  Bob S.   ;-)

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:



 How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

 About 7:  Ann would supervise.  Marnie would install the lightbulb; Ahmita
 (I apologize if I spelled your name wrong), Rebecca, and Christine would act
 as support: hold the stool, hand Marnie the lightbulb etc.  Wendy would
 handle the dogs meant to keep the grumpy old men at bay; and Allison would
 photograph the whole event with her newly rented Fish-eye lens.  We'd
 cheerfully chat the whole time and probably have lunch afterward.  :-)


 Cheers, Christine


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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Luiz Felipe
Place the limit at 14mp (APS sensor) and 22+ (FF sensor) and I quite 
agree. OTOH, as long as it is possible, let them race to increase color 
and dynamic range...


LF

William Robb escreveu:


- Original Message - From: Bruce Walker Subject: Good to know: 
Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race




But who won?

Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications 
most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus 
Imaging's SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]


http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
http://snipurl.com/d951l



They probably figure that's all they'll be able to fit into the 4/3 format.

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Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?

2009-03-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I didn't see the information that a specific request was made until
after my post.  So for that, I can see the need.  From a practical
perspective, I stand by what I said.

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Friday, March 6, 2009, 7:54:31 AM, you wrote:


WR - Original Message - 
WR From: Bruce Dayton
WR Subject: Re: Damage Waiver for Lens Rental?


 When I was shooting film for weddings, I had the fisheye zoom.  I
 found it to be useful for about 2 or 3 shots in the whole wedding.
 And if I had not shown those images, the client wouldn't have noticed.

 These days, shooting digital APS-C, the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 are
 the perfect pair for focal length and size to do weddings.  The old 
 70-200/2.8's are
 big and heavy and difficult to hand hold for long periods of time.

 I rarely have need or desire to go wider than 16mm rectilinear when
 shooting weddings.  I side with Paul that if you don't have the 16-50/2.8,
 rent it instead of the fisheye.  You'll use it about 200:1 compared to
 the fisheye.

WR For myself, I have yet to use a fisheye at a wedding but
WR The OP says she has a specific use for the thing, what's the problem with
WR respecting that need?
WR For myself, I still shoot primes at weddings, I just can't seem to bring
WR myself to shoot with slow zoom lenses.

WR William Robb 


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It's here and it's humbling

2009-03-06 Thread Bill Owens
My PDML annual finally arrived and after giving it a quick lookover,
I'm very humbled by having my feeble contrtbution included in this
fantastic collection.

Bill

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Re: DA*55 tested

2009-03-06 Thread Margus Männik

Thibouille wrote:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1235/cat/45

Seems sharp as could be...
I tested this lens (K20D, Z-1p) last weekend - it's even sharper as 
could be. Damn thing is sharper than DA50 Macro...Right from f/1.4 and 
all the way down to f/22. Truly amazing.


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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
2009/3/7 William Robb war...@gmail.com:

 - Original Message - From: David Savage
 Subject: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?




 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/


 I can't even begin to describe how many things on how many levels are wrong
 with this.

go on. Give it a go.

:-)

DS

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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
2009/3/7 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
 my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

 Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
 studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
 was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
 of found props:

 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

 Direct link (~105kb)
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

 Great.

 Now I'll have to gouge my eyes out (again!).

Whoops.

Sorry.

DS

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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
2009/3/7 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com:
 2009/3/7 William Robb war...@gmail.com:

 - Original Message - From: David Savage
 Subject: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?
 http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/


 I can't even begin to describe how many things on how many levels are wrong
 with this.

 go on. Give it a go.

 :-)

Oh, And this isn't the worst of them.

A couple beers later we found a ladies wig.

:-D

Cheers,

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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/6/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

  - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker Subject: Good to know:
 Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race



  But who won?
 
  Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications

  They probably figure that's all they'll be able to fit into the 4/3 format.

That's what I thought, too, though I don't disagree with the 12MP
statement.  So how do they go about keeping the camera prices
artificially high?  Until now all the camera makers have droned on
about new, higher pixel counts, which the rest will still do.  I'm
betting that Oly will fill their cameras to the brim with silly
gimmicks and newer, shinier modes like shooting-from-an-airplane mode
or the ever useful engine-parts mode.  As ridiculous as the megapixel
race is, Olympus just shot themselves in the foot.  The rest of the
industry will continue this nonsense for several more years.

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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoops.

 Sorry.

Actually it's a fun shot.  I laughed.  I'll leave my eyes intact for now.

How many beers did you guys have, anyway?

;-)

cheers,
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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
2009/3/7 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoops.

 Sorry.

 Actually it's a fun shot.  I laughed.  I'll leave my eyes intact for now.

:-)

 How many beers did you guys have, anyway?

Not enough to justify this crap :-)

But photography is supposed to be fun. So is social drinking. Both
combined is bliss.

:-)

DS

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Re: Scanner question

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know what software Epson supplies with the V300. I've never  
used any of the Epson software for either of the V700 or 2450 scanners.


However, I strongly recommend VueScan for driving the scanner. It's  
got amongst the best scanning algorithms I've seen with any software  
and is updated regularly. The V300 is on the supported scanner list.


Image editing is separate from scanning. Use what you like there.  
While you can do a lot of the basic capture needs in the scanning  
software, scanning software should be used to capture the data as best  
possible, not edit or finish render it.


Godfrey

On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Nick Wright wrote:


I'm still looking at scanners. I think I'm going to go with the Epson
V300. It's gotten good reviews from just about everywhere that I've
looked and it appears to be just what I'm looking for. And the price
is right.

But I noticed that the Epson package no longer includes Photoshop
Elements, so I'm wondering does the Epson software work as a
standalone program? Or will I need a separate image editor to access
the scanner software?



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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm sure this is the PDML anymore. I thought I was reading the online  
version of The Women Of The PDML And The Men They Shake Their Heads  
At.


I mean: where's Cotty in this scenario? He's gotta be in there with an  
angle grinder at least... ;-)


G

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:





How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


About 7:  Ann would supervise.  Marnie would install the lightbulb;  
Ahmita
(I apologize if I spelled your name wrong), Rebecca, and Christine  
would act
as support: hold the stool, hand Marnie the lightbulb etc.  Wendy  
would
handle the dogs meant to keep the grumpy old men at bay; and Allison  
would

photograph the whole event with her newly rented Fish-eye lens.  We'd
cheerfully chat the whole time and probably have lunch afterward.  :-)




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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread David Savage
2009/3/7 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Christine  Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:



 How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

 About 7:  Ann would supervise.  Marnie would install the lightbulb; Ahmita
 (I apologize if I spelled your name wrong), Rebecca, and Christine would act
 as support: hold the stool, hand Marnie the lightbulb etc.  Wendy would
 handle the dogs meant to keep the grumpy old men at bay; and Allison would
 photograph the whole event with her newly rented Fish-eye lens.  We'd
 cheerfully chat the whole time and probably have lunch afterward.  :-)

 So what you're saying is that the women would do all the work?

I'm guessing this blown light bulb is in the kitchen.

VBG

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


But who won?

Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most  
applications most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of  
Olympus Imaging's SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]


I've thought so too, for a long time. I've seen very little real need  
for much more than the 6 to 12 Mpixel cameras I have now for when I'm  
making 13x19 to 20x24 inch exhibition prints, and I have vanishingly  
small interest in anything larger than that.


Some of my best selling photos were made with a 4Mpixel, JPEG only  
camera. Including the two-page spread photo that published in Red  
Bulletin last May.


It's nice to hear one camera manufacturer at least inject some sense  
and rationality in the marketing mania. I don't care who won. I care  
that good camera equipment that does the job I need comes to market.


Godfrey


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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Carlos Royo

Thanks for a good laugh. I needed it, after a very hard week.

Carlos

David Savage escribió:

G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.

One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
viewing web images tend to get.

P.P.S. Here's me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg

:-D

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Re: DA*55 tested

2009-03-06 Thread Bruce Walker

Margus Männik wrote:

Thibouille wrote:

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1235/cat/45

Seems sharp as could be...
I tested this lens (K20D, Z-1p) last weekend - it's even sharper as 
could be. Damn thing is sharper than DA50 Macro...Right from f/1.4 and 
all the way down to f/22. Truly amazing.


BRM


I *so* don't need to know this.  Now I'm developing a serious twinge in 
my mouse-clicking finger that's probably early LBA signs.  With any 
luck, it's just RSI.


-bmw

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RE: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread JC OConnell
nope, I could easily use 24MP on APS with my best lenses
and that would translate to roughly 50MP on FF digital.

JC O'Connell
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race


Place the limit at 14mp (APS sensor) and 22+ (FF sensor) and I quite 
agree. OTOH, as long as it is possible, let them race to increase color 
and dynamic range...

LF

William Robb escreveu:
 
 - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker Subject: Good to 
 know:
 Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race
 
 
 But who won?

 Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications
 most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus 
 Imaging's SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
 http://snipurl.com/d951l
 
 
 They probably figure that's all they'll be able to fit into the 4/3 
 format.
 
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pun(chlines) - stay tuned keywords - lightbulb, PDML, screw

2009-03-06 Thread ann sanfedele

I'm lovin the punchlines!

gathering them into one post...

will publish

ann


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RE: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread JC OConnell
reason is with best lenses, I can clearly
see the lens is resolving smoothly but the
lack of Mp is causing pixelation at the limits
of the lens resolution. It would need four or more
times the 6Mp to make them less visible, maybe
60-100Mp on APS would still be visibly better
overkill maybe, overkill, maybe not.


JC O'Connell
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nope, I could easily use 24MP on APS with my best lenses
and that would translate to roughly 50MP on FF digital.

JC O'Connell
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race


Place the limit at 14mp (APS sensor) and 22+ (FF sensor) and I quite 
agree. OTOH, as long as it is possible, let them race to increase color 
and dynamic range...

LF

William Robb escreveu:
 
 - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker Subject: Good to
 know:
 Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race
 
 
 But who won?

 Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications

 most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus 
 Imaging's SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
 http://snipurl.com/d951l
 
 
 They probably figure that's all they'll be able to fit into the 4/3
 format.
 
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Re: Laundering a Domke F2

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 6, 2009, at 01:45 , mike wilson wrote:

I think folks are looking for that rugged, lived-in look.  As the  
bags are canvas, my suggestion would be to tie them to the mast of a  
tea-clipper for a quick once around the Horn.  Should work a treat.   
Not recommended for Lowepro.



Reminds me of the method we used to clean mops when I was stationed  
aboard an aircraft carrier in the mid sixties. Tie the mop handle  
securely to 250 feet of strong line (rope) and toss it over the  
fantail (stern) while underway. Contrary to logic, it would not be  
dragged along through the water, but would skip, bounce and twirl,  
slapping into the sea every few seconds pulling the line super taught  
for a second before emerging to dance some more. Retrieve after 30  
minutes. Just like new!


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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-06 Thread Toine
Thanks for all your nice comments. Some wondered where and what this is:
It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch beek. The whole
region is called a beekdal or stream valley.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=51.311757,5.536637spn=0.019931,0.0315z=15

Since this is the netherlands everything is flat and a valley is only
a few meters difference. The region isn't even a proper wetland they
installed small water gates to keep the water level in the area high
enough for a wetland.
Most of the dutch nature is mixed with farmland and worse with lots of
cattle and pig breeding, The pig population outnumbers the human
population. The resulting manure is used to fertilize the land, since
the soil is mainly sand the manure seeps through.
What you see is the smelly result captured by the water gate.

The good news is I like these pictures and the forest and wetland
surrounding this smelly water gate is my favorite foraging spot.


Toine


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 Coke - as in those photos, exactly opposite to my drinking choice. Still
 about the photos, very interesting indeed.

 LF

 Toine escreveu:

 Beer or Coke? You need a strong stomach for this one:
 http://www.repiuk.nl/beerorcoke/
 K20D DA35 Macro

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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
That will be awesome to get better color gamut, and better dynamic range.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 Place the limit at 14mp (APS sensor) and 22+ (FF sensor) and I quite agree.
 OTOH, as long as it is possible, let them race to increase color and dynamic
 range...

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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Toine
After upgrading from K10D to K20D I noticed many of my lenses can't
match the sensor resolution. The exception my DA35 Limited. I would
prefer more dynamic range.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 But who won?

 Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most applications most
 customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of Olympus Imaging's SLR
 planning department [interviewed at the PMA]

 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html
 http://snipurl.com/d951l

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Re: Scanner question

2009-03-06 Thread Nick Wright
But is the scanning software a plugin and as such need a program like
photoshop to operate? Or will it scan and save to a file on its own?

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:
 I don't know what software Epson supplies with the V300. I've never used any
 of the Epson software for either of the V700 or 2450 scanners.

 However, I strongly recommend VueScan for driving the scanner. It's got
 amongst the best scanning algorithms I've seen with any software and is
 updated regularly. The V300 is on the supported scanner list.

 Image editing is separate from scanning. Use what you like there. While you
 can do a lot of the basic capture needs in the scanning software, scanning
 software should be used to capture the data as best possible, not edit or
 finish render it.

 Godfrey

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 I'm still looking at scanners. I think I'm going to go with the Epson
 V300. It's gotten good reviews from just about everywhere that I've
 looked and it appears to be just what I'm looking for. And the price
 is right.

 But I noticed that the Epson package no longer includes Photoshop
 Elements, so I'm wondering does the Epson software work as a
 standalone program? Or will I need a separate image editor to access
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm

Subject: Re: PESO - Lakeside



Thanks, Jack. Also Bob S, Christine, Frank, John, Joseph, Ken and
Marnie.  Comments much appreciated.

Ken


BTW I use my 300 all the time for landscapes.


Yes, I have to overcome my tendency to always reach for a wide angle
lens for landscapes.


Geo Lepp coined the phrase 'optical extraction' for this.




John

And in the U.S. version of the English language, barbecued snags would 
be?


Very well cooked sausages of fairly ordinary quality and of unknown
composition (sometimes ignorance is a blessing)  :-)



A vertical composition could work if you wanted to emphasize the
foreground reflection of the trees. I might try something like that.


I looked at several ways to crop the original but no vertical crop
seemed to provide the 'balance' to the scene that the horizontal crop
achieved.


Bob S


Nice.  Did your original have more water or sky?


No sky - just equal amounts of trees and lake and it really didn't work
well.



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/


On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:22 -0800, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Having done your considerable part, obviously, the 80~320 certainly
performed well. Crisp image, with heavy crop, shot at 140mm.
Like it, Brian!

Jack


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 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: PESO - Lakeside
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:51 AM
 G'day all

 I don't often use a telephoto lens for landscape work
 but I was attracted by the dark reflection of these trees in
 the water and, as I was quite a distance away, I had to use
 the 80-320 zoom.

 This is a horizontal crop of the original image which I,
 for reasons only explainable by the several glasses of
 Hunter River Shiraz consumed previously, photographed in
 portrait format.

 The crop is just over half of the original. (As an aside, I
 resampled the crop back up to 6 MP and I'm happy with
 the result, but I could  have saved myself the trouble if
 I'd been competent enough to take a few shots in
 landscape format in the first place).


 http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/129678/Lakeside.html



 Comments, of course, are extremely welcome.


 Cheers

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Re: Scanner question

2009-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
VueScan is a completely standalone application. You can download an  
evaluation copy from

  http://www.hamrick.com/

A license key is available for $40 for the standard version, with one  
year of free updates, or $80 for the pro version with more features  
and unlimited free updates. I've been using it since Ed Hamrick  
released it for Mac OS almost 10 years ago, at the time it was $40  
with unlimited free updates. Best $40 I have spent on software. It's  
the only scanning software I've used to drive all the scanners I've  
owned since I got it (it does a FAR better job than the original  
software Minolta offered with the Scan Dual II, for instance) and it  
provides me an alternative RAW conversion processor as well. Very  
useful.


Godfrey

On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Nick Wright wrote:


But is the scanning software a plugin and as such need a program like
photoshop to operate? Or will it scan and save to a file on its own?

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com  
wrote:
I don't know what software Epson supplies with the V300. I've never  
used any

of the Epson software for either of the V700 or 2450 scanners.

However, I strongly recommend VueScan for driving the scanner. It's  
got
amongst the best scanning algorithms I've seen with any software  
and is

updated regularly. The V300 is on the supported scanner list.

Image editing is separate from scanning. Use what you like there.  
While you
can do a lot of the basic capture needs in the scanning software,  
scanning
software should be used to capture the data as best possible, not  
edit or

finish render it.



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Re: LED Lighting...

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com

Subject: LED Lighting...


Instead of shoeboxes full of gels to get your mood lighting into your 
photos, or, to set your white balance BEFORE  you leave for that  theater 
shoot, here's an item that will make your day (or night).


http://www.gizmosforgeeks.com/2009/02/26/multi-color-lightbulb-with-remote/



Slicker than snot on a door knob.


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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: RE: Peso: Warning - cat photo



John Coyle wrote:

No Bob - 12 days to look at it and wonder, 45 seconds to 
Google it and

realize where you got it from!
And you're at it again! Now I'll have to Google  
logorrhoeal effluvia

efunderates.


John in Brisbane



  


How many PDML members does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

(you guys write the punch line :-)


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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller

Cute capture, just wish his eye area was more visible.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO - I'd Smile Too



http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller

The shadow know.

Nicely done but I'd like the full hand to be included over the orange cloth.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com


Subject: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?



G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.

One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
viewing web images tend to get.

P.P.S. Here's me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg



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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?



On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:58:40AM +0900, David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg


One mark of a good photographer is the ability to make a beautiful
picture of a less than beautiful subject, a great photographer can
make the subject look beautiful too.

I'd say you fall just short of greatness.


Yeah, but he cam levitate





D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

P.S.: I showed them both the PDML annual  they were both very impressed.

One even commented that it's interesting that more time is generally
spent really looking at a printed image rather than the cursory
viewing web images tend to get.

P.P.S. Here's me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3316596755_8b7f7102e5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3316596519_72c9fe91df.jpg


For your sake, I hope your friend falls quite a bit short of
greatness.

Fun shots, well executed.



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Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel race

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
For 'most' photos, I'd have to agree, but I've found the K20D affords me the 
ability to crop out alot and still get a usable image even with the 600.


You might remember an image I posted last summer of the Blue Angels over 
Traverse City. The image I posted was a severe crop of the original capture, 
yet the resulting cropped file was big enough to allow me to get a very nice 
8X 10 print.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com


Subject: Re: Good to know: Olympus has declared an end to the megapixel 
race





On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


But who won?

Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough for covering most  applications 
most customers need, said Akira Watanabe, manager of  Olympus Imaging's 
SLR planning department [interviewed at the PMA]


I've thought so too, for a long time. I've seen very little real need  for 
much more than the 6 to 12 Mpixel cameras I have now for when I'm  making 
13x19 to 20x24 inch exhibition prints, and I have vanishingly  small 
interest in anything larger than that.


Some of my best selling photos were made with a 4Mpixel, JPEG only 
camera. Including the two-page spread photo that published in Red 
Bulletin last May.


It's nice to hear one camera manufacturer at least inject some sense  and 
rationality in the marketing mania. I don't care who won. I care  that 
good camera equipment that does the job I need comes to market.


Godfrey



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller
Over here the Environmental Protection Agency would be all over that like 
flies on crap - be declared a hazardous waste zone !


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Toine jack.isid...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: PESO: Beer or coke?



Thanks for all your nice comments. Some wondered where and what this is:
It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch beek. The whole
region is called a beekdal or stream valley.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=51.311757,5.536637spn=0.019931,0.0315z=15

Since this is the netherlands everything is flat and a valley is only
a few meters difference. The region isn't even a proper wetland they
installed small water gates to keep the water level in the area high
enough for a wetland.
Most of the dutch nature is mixed with farmland and worse with lots of
cattle and pig breeding, The pig population outnumbers the human
population. The resulting manure is used to fertilize the land, since
the soil is mainly sand the manure seeps through.
What you see is the smelly result captured by the water gate.

The good news is I like these pictures and the forest and wetland
surrounding this smelly water gate is my favorite foraging spot.


Toine


On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br 
wrote:

Coke - as in those photos, exactly opposite to my drinking choice. Still
about the photos, very interesting indeed.

LF

Toine escreveu:


Beer or Coke? You need a strong stomach for this one:
http://www.repiuk.nl/beerorcoke/
K20D DA35 Macro

Toine



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

2009-03-06 Thread Christian

Ken Waller wrote:
Over here the Environmental Protection Agency would be all over that 
like flies on crap - be declared a hazardous waste zone !


superfund site.  And then billions will be poured into it with little or 
no effect.

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Re: PESO: hats

2009-03-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/2/28 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com:
 hi everyone,
 i present you with a recent (just before last dawn) photo i seem to like:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3316939092/

 specifics: k10d, zeiss 35 2.4, iso 400, 1/8 i think (can't remember)

 hope some of you enjoy it as well :)

 luka


You can leave your hat on :-)

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Where are the Portrait lenses?

2009-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
Nice piece in DPReview:
http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2009/03/where-are-the-portrait-lenses.html

Comments are interesting too. -T

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 08:49:20AM -, Bob W wrote:
 Good luck with efunderates. 

I'm a bit of a paronmoasiac myself, but your sesquipedalian lexicon
leaves me agog.

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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Ken Waller

Press 1 for english.

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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo



On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 08:49:20AM -, Bob W wrote:

Good luck with efunderates.


I'm a bit of a paronmoasiac myself, but your sesquipedalian lexicon
leaves me agog.

--
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Re: Peso: Warning - cat photo

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Mar 6, 2009, at 12:10 , Larry Colen wrote:


On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 08:49:20AM -, Bob W wrote:

Good luck with efunderates.


I'm a bit of a paronmoasiac myself, but your sesquipedalian lexicon
leaves me agog.

--
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Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc




You are disqualified, Larry, for mis-spelling paronomoasiac.


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Re: OT: ...and so to blog

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 6, 2009, at 01:07 , Bob W wrote:


Samuel Pepys's blog:

http://www.pepysdiary.com/


Interesting excercise in thought, but I find myself out of this blog's  
demographic.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: Unsurprising sadness

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 6, 2009, at 02:44 , mike wilson wrote:


 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

As we age and hold on to our security blankets we should not be
surprised that we wear holes in them, and that no one considers them
worthy of repair.


Do I need to say it?


G'head, big boy, say it!  Dare ya!


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Re: PESO - I'd Smile Too

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 6, 2009, at 06:32 , frank theriault wrote:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/id-smile-too.html

Comments always welcome.


The wrinkles at the corners of the eyes say enough that the eyes  
themselves are secondary.


Very nice capture, Frank.

I volunteer for the next one...

Joseph McAllister
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–Lewis Hine


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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

2009-03-06 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Mar 6, 2009, at 07:58 , David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Okay so it's a stupid title, but it's the first thing that popped into
my head when I saw the result  it's stuck.

Last weekend me  2 friends gathered to help set up the lights in the
studio one of our number has gone a 3rd share in. Once the lighting
was dialled in, and after a few beers, it was play time with a couple
of found props:

http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3315426481/

Direct link (~105kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3315426481_dfc33dd9a9_o.jpg

D700, Smegma 24-70 f2.8, ISO 200 yadda yadda yadda



Cameras and alcohol don't mix...

Truly.

Joseph McAllister
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