New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Happy New Year from California!

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Weather

2010-01-01 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
I've been staying at my mother's house for a while, after
having gotten pneumonia after the flu (doing much better
now).  Yesterday we had some sort of solid-phase precipitation
event -- freezing rain, wintery mix, something that left
branches ice-encrusted, though by the time I was looking at
it, what was falling out of the sky had reverted to plain
liquid and what I was looking at was starting to melt.
I grabbed coat, camera, and shoes, and went out to take
some photos in the back yard.  When I came back in, Mom
asked what I was taking pictures of.

I explained that I was taking pictures of the ice, and she
asked, Why?

Mom, as a photographer, if nature does something pretty,
I want to claim credit for it.  That's why I was photographing
ice.

I don't think she understood what I meant until I uploaded
the photos to my laptop and showed her a close-up of ice on
an evergreen.  I didn't get anything spectacular, but I did
at least manage to reach pretty.

Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate
seed looked like somebody's liver.

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RE: PESO 2009 - 215 - GDG

2010-01-01 Thread Bob W
 
 Last Call
 
http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/215-last-call
 
 Happy New Year!
 
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That's lovely, and very original.

Bob


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Re: Christian let you all down but I won't!

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty is a sheep. But in wolf's clothing.

Bllocks

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Re: PESO: Holiday Bus Stop

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Nice and colourful. The person is well placed, not obscuring anything
in the back ground

Dave

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/12/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Happy new year.

http://pug.komkon.org/

And to you.

Excellent gallery as always. I looked at every pic and they are all
brilliant - enjoyed every one.

My favourites are 'Carolyn' by Christine and 'Paris Cops' by Annsan.
Well done ladies - so evocative of the time. Both have amazing
atmosphere and presence. First rate!



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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Its now 2010 + 6:58. Happy New Year from ol sleepy head.;-)


Dave

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:06 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 It's 2010 in Michigan and all North American points east. Smacked the clapper 
 and rang the ship's bell for the 25th year in a row. Dong! Dong!!

 Here's to a great new year.

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

We're going to a bar called The Bovine Sex Club (BSC) to
watch her favorite band called Creepshow.

I believe there's a very good chance I'll be the oldest person there...

You're only as old as some of the udders there.

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Good job every one.

I like Ann's photo, as well as Christine's, Marks and Dario's, but
they are all very good this month

Dave

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 http://pug.komkon.org/

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 31/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

We're going to a bar called The Bovine Sex Club (BSC) to
watch her favorite band called Creepshow.

I believe there's a very good chance I'll be the oldest person there...

 You're only as old as some of the udders there.

Don't milk it pal.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 215 - GDG

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Nicely framed and i like the light placements

Dave

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Last Call

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/215-last-call

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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Its now 2010 + 6:58. Happy New Year from ol sleepy head.;-)

2010 + 12.01 here and just contemplating a walk in the cold winter sun.
The coffee will keep me going until a late brunch at 1.30 of scrambled
eggs, bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms :-)

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Did we ever find out what system you are migrating to.??

Dave

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Jerome Reyes p...@familyfootprints.net wrote:
 This week's two items:

 Pentax K10D Digital Camera Body 10.2MP
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270508980347
 http://tinyurl.com/y94ogjh


 Pentax Rear Converter A 1.4X-L Teleconverter With Case
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270508968012
 http://tinyurl.com/yj3r8ck


 I'll re-run this email again next Friday as the auctions get closer to
 ending. Luckily, the 540FGZ, Battery Grip, and 1.7x converter all sold this
 week. Still to come are listings for the 16-50mm lens, 50-135mm lenses, and
 a bogen tripod and head. Happy New Year to all.

 Jerome


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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 1/1/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Its now 2010 + 6:58. Happy New Year from ol sleepy head.;-)

 2010 + 12.01 here and just contemplating a walk in the cold winter sun.
 The coffee will keep me going until a late brunch at 1.30 of scrambled
 eggs, bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms :-)

Yum sounds good. I'm back on my diet, so its jello and broccoli heads
for my breakfast.

 A Nappy Yew Hear to all.

Slame you to.

Dave

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty


We're going to a bar called The Bovine Sex Club (BSC) to
watch her favorite band called Creepshow.

I believe there's a very good chance I'll be the oldest person there...

 You're only as old as some of the udders there.

Don't milk it pal.

Couldn't resist cud you.


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Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo book
project is now accepting submissions at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of December
2009) gets a shot in the book.
You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed acceptance).
Book will be available in late March or early April.

There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the book, held in
Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself, participation
in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)

So go for it.

IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
This will be because your country or IP block is banned due to
security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to happen if
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Email me off-list and I'll open a hole in the security for your
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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
I sincerely extend the same wish! :)

Jack

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 Happy New Year from California!
 
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Re: PESO: Holiday Bus Stop

2010-01-01 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 1, 2010, at 6:51 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Nice and colourful. The person is well placed, not obscuring anything
 in the back ground
 
Thanks Dave. Not sure about the rendering. Did it on my laptop while drinking 
scotch:-).
Paul

 Dave
 
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RE: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Mitchell
 From: Mark Roberts
 
 Subject: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!
 
 Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
 archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo book
 project is now accepting submissions at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

Great! Now I've got to make the first major decision of 2010...

Mark - Thanks for organising this, it's a fantastic project. 

Happy new year to you and all PDMLers.

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Re: PESO: Pacific Waves

2010-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
I like the first one.  The second looks too much like a bad southern California 
smog day.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Pacific Waves
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:49 AM
 Here are two photos from the beach
 here in San Diego.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10426250size=lg
 and
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10426291size=lg
 
 I saw the blue and like the blue, but does the 2nd one look
 more realistic?
 Comments appreciated...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:05:41AM +0100, Dario Bonazza scripsit:
 I truly wish Pentax would be smart enough to bring out a K-7n using
 that  sensor/processor combo!

Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
business; their sensor sales are going to reflect that.  For Pentax to
make themselves dependent on Sony for sensor availability would be
somewhat rash.

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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread William Robb

Happy new year from the decidedly chilly north.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/cold1.jpg

William Robb

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Re: PESO 2009 - 215 - GDG

2010-01-01 Thread Jim King

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:53:41 -0800


Last Call

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/215-last-call

Happy New Year!


Very nice image, Godfrey.  As usual, your composition is great - I  
like your placement of the little splashes of color on a deep blue  
background.  As someone said in your blog, while your B/W is great,  
you should do more color, as you excel in this also.

Happy New year to you as well.

Regards, Jim

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread drd1135
I like the orange but I'm partial to still lives. Nice work all!
Steve Desjardins

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From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:11:06 
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Subject: Re: PUG's up

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:28 -0500, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Happy new year.
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/
 
 Ann wins!!  That photo totally rocks, Ann.


Can't argue with that but it's a close run thing with Dario's.

Honorable mentions to Christine's 'Carolyn' and Paul's 'Blue's Avenue'.



 All in all, a hell of a gallery this month!


Agreed!


 
 Now I'm off to a New Year's Eve celebration with my 21 year old,
 Catherine.  We're going to a bar called The Bovine Sex Club (BSC) to
 watch her favorite band called Creepshow.
 
 I believe there's a very good chance I'll be the oldest person there...
 
 ;-)
 
 I might have photos


I would expect as much.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
Happy to read this, Mark. Thanks much for, again, assuming a responsibility 
that produced last year's professional product.
You knew someone would ask, but I'm probably not alone in wondering if the 
2009 shot stipulation is to be considered firm or more a matter of don't 
ask, don't tell?
I have a couple of 09's to offer, but would include an '08 if it's a soft 
condition.

Thanks,

Jack

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 Subject: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:55 AM
 Shake off that New Year's Day
 hangover and dive into your photo
 archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML
 photo book
 project is now accepting submissions at
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
 
 All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
 We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of
 December
 2009) gets a shot in the book.
 You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed
 acceptance).
 Book will be available in late March or early April.
 
 There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the
 book, held in
 Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself,
 participation
 in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)
 
 So go for it.
 
 IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
 This will be because your country or IP block is banned due
 to
 security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to
 happen if
 you're in China, Korea, Russia or eastern Europe (or
 Australia, which
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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Graydon wrote:

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:05:41AM +0100, Dario Bonazza scripsit:
 I truly wish Pentax would be smart enough to bring out a K-7n using
 that  sensor/processor combo!

Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
business

???
I don't believe that for a minute.

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Re: PESO: Holiday Bus Stop

2010-01-01 Thread drd1135
Great shot. A moody nicely framed street shot. This one is also better in color 
than BW. 
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K7D, DA* 50-135, f4, 1/125th, ISO 1600, 135 mm

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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
HOLLY Well, Bill, if it'll make you feel any better, it got down to +52F 
this AM here. Now that's chilly.

Jack 

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 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:23 AM
 Happy new year from the decidedly
 chilly north.
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/cold1.jpg
 
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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

Happy to read this, Mark. Thanks much for, again, assuming a responsibility 
that produced last year's professional product.
You knew someone would ask, but I'm probably not alone in wondering if the 
2009 shot stipulation is to be considered firm or more a matter of don't 
ask, don't tell?


Must be a photograph taken... (preferably, but not necessarily, in
2009)

;-)


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RE: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Bob W
 
 Happy new year from the decidedly chilly north.
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/cold1.jpg
 
 William Robb

Good God! Happy New Year to you too!

Bob


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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread David Savage
Damn!

I spent new years day sobering up pool side.

DS

2010/1/1 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
 Happy new year from the decidedly chilly north.

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Re: Christian let you all down but I won't!

2010-01-01 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/1/10, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 1/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:


  Cotty is a sheep. But in wolf's clothing.


 Bllocks

I knew it was ewe all along.

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
Got it..thanks!

J

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 Subject: Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:41 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Happy to read this, Mark. Thanks much for, again,
 assuming a responsibility that produced last year's
 professional product.
 You knew someone would ask, but I'm probably not alone
 in wondering if the 2009 shot stipulation is to be
 considered firm or more a matter of don't ask, don't
 tell?
 
 
 Must be a photograph taken... (preferably, but not
 necessarily, in
 2009)
 
 ;-)
 
 
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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:28:08AM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit:
 Graydon wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:05:41AM +0100, Dario Bonazza scripsit:
  I truly wish Pentax would be smart enough to bring out a K-7n using
  that  sensor/processor combo!
 
 Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
 business
 
 ???
 I don't believe that for a minute.

I don't think they believe they can *do* it, but they're certainly
trying, or, at least, I can't come up with another explanation of just
why they're willing to so heavily subsidize their DSLR camera line.
That's the usual Sony pattern for we want a dominant-to-crushing
position in this industry.

-- Graydon

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread P N Stenquist

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the PDML.

A question: I notice that the specified width is greater than the  
specified height, yet the book has vertical pages. Thus, vertical  
photos will be of much lower resolution than horizontal images. Are  
these specs correct? Did you intend to provide long side vs. short  
side specs rather than height vs. width?


Paul

On Jan 1, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo book
project is now accepting submissions at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of December
2009) gets a shot in the book.
You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed acceptance).
Book will be available in late March or early April.

There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the book, held in
Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself, participation
in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)

So go for it.

IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
This will be because your country or IP block is banned due to
security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to happen if
you're in China, Korea, Russia or eastern Europe (or Australia, which
shares IP blocks with Asia).
Email me off-list and I'll open a hole in the security for your
upload.

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Re: PUG's up

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 09:14:56PM -0500, Scott Loveless scripsit:
 Happy new year.
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/

I think Dario wins that one.

Honorable mention to the French policemen from Ann.

Rick gets the Clever Award.

-- Graydon











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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:05:25AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
 Yum sounds good. I'm back on my diet, so its jello and broccoli heads
 for my breakfast.

Thor and the White Christ.  You got something extremely specific to
atone for?

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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Graydon

Subject: Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???





Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
business

???
I don't believe that for a minute.


I don't think they believe they can *do* it, but they're certainly
trying, or, at least, I can't come up with another explanation of just
why they're willing to so heavily subsidize their DSLR camera line.
That's the usual Sony pattern for we want a dominant-to-crushing
position in this industry.


I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business 
they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.


William Robb 



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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: David Savage 
Subject: Re: New Year




Damn!

I spent new years day sobering up pool side.


It's warmed up a degree since then.

William Robb




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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:28:23AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
 - Original Message - From: Graydon
 Subject: Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???
 Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
 business

 ???
 I don't believe that for a minute.

 I don't think they believe they can *do* it, but they're certainly
 trying, or, at least, I can't come up with another explanation of just
 why they're willing to so heavily subsidize their DSLR camera line.
 That's the usual Sony pattern for we want a dominant-to-crushing
 position in this industry.

 I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business
 they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.

Japan does have *some* anti-trust regulation, there may be long-term
contracts in place, and I'm pretty sure no one but Sony is still using
Sony sensors for the flagship cameras.  Which is (I think) indicative.

Anybody but Sony getting/using the A900/A850 sensor?

-- Graydon

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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, we usually sleep throughout new year night. But this evening (I 
mean, today), we had a lovely dinner in a restaurant to which I'd take 
anyone who eats meat and drinks good beer. So, I'd say, I raised my 
glass of bear a little bit later after you, Paul.


To a great 2010.

Boris


On 1/1/2010 7:06 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

It's 2010 in Michigan and all North American points east. Smacked the clapper 
and rang the ship's bell for the 25th year in a row. Dong! Dong!!

Here's to a great new year.

Paul



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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread David Savage
2010/1/2 William Robb war...@gmail.com:

 - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: New Year


 Damn!

 I spent new years day sobering up pool side.

 It's warmed up a degree since then.

Balmy

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Jerome Reyes

David J Brooks wrote:

Did we ever find out what system you are migrating to.??

  

Copy-and-pasted order form:

EOS 7D 18.0 Megapixel Digital SLR Camera
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L L-Series USM Standard Zoom Lens
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens
100mm f/2.8 EF USM Macro Lens for SLR Camera

I blame Cotty.




Dave

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Jerome Reyes p...@familyfootprints.net wrote:
  

This week's two items:

Pentax K10D Digital Camera Body 10.2MP
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270508980347
http://tinyurl.com/y94ogjh


Pentax Rear Converter A 1.4X-L Teleconverter With Case
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270508968012
http://tinyurl.com/yj3r8ck


I'll re-run this email again next Friday as the auctions get closer to
ending. Luckily, the 540FGZ, Battery Grip, and 1.7x converter all sold this
week. Still to come are listings for the 16-50mm lens, 50-135mm lenses, and
a bogen tripod and head. Happy New Year to all.

Jerome


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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:28:23AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
 - Original Message - From: Graydon
 Subject: Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???
 Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
 business

 ???
 I don't believe that for a minute.

 I don't think they believe they can *do* it, but they're certainly
 trying, or, at least, I can't come up with another explanation of just
 why they're willing to so heavily subsidize their DSLR camera line.
 That's the usual Sony pattern for we want a dominant-to-crushing
 position in this industry.

 I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business
 they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.

 Japan does have *some* anti-trust regulation, there may be long-term
 contracts in place, and I'm pretty sure no one but Sony is still using
 Sony sensors for the flagship cameras.  Which is (I think) indicative.

 Anybody but Sony getting/using the A900/A850 sensor?

 -- Graydon

Nikon, in the D3x.



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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:05:41AM +0100, Dario Bonazza scripsit:
 I truly wish Pentax would be smart enough to bring out a K-7n using
 that  sensor/processor combo!

 Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
 business; their sensor sales are going to reflect that.  For Pentax to
 make themselves dependent on Sony for sensor availability would be
 somewhat rash.

 -- Graydon

Sony can't afford to do that, it's both a different business unit from
the camera division and the only aspect of their entire still camera
efforts that actually makes money. They can't afford to develop their
sensors without the funds they make off Nikon and frankly, they don't
care about Pentax, which is too small to matter (even if the K-m and
K-x outsell the A2x0/3x0 line).

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jerome Reyes p...@familyfootprints.net wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:

 Did we ever find out what system you are migrating to.??



 Copy-and-pasted order form:

 EOS 7D 18.0 Megapixel Digital SLR Camera
 EF 24-70mm f/2.8L L-Series USM Standard Zoom Lens
 EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens
 100mm f/2.8 EF USM Macro Lens for SLR Camera

 I blame Cotty.




If you haven't ordered yet, I'd drop teh 24-70L and get the 17-55 IS
instead. Better lens overall and stabilized.

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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:48:46AM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit:
 On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
[I assert Sony wants the other DSLR makers out of business]
  I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business
  they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.
 
  Japan does have *some* anti-trust regulation, there may be long-term
  contracts in place, and I'm pretty sure no one but Sony is still using
  Sony sensors for the flagship cameras.  Which is (I think) indicative.
 
  Anybody but Sony getting/using the A900/A850 sensor?
 
 Nikon, in the D3x.

A900, top 9 results on Google Products -- 2,699 USD  Release date,
September 2009.

D3x, same top 9 minus Amazon on Google Products -- 7,499 USD for 2
vendors, 7,999 USD otherwise.  More than twice the price.  Release date
roughly Christmas, 2008.

The 5 kUSD price difference is some mix of Sony subsidies to their
camera prices, Sony charging Nikon rather differently than they charge
themselves, and (presumptively) different actual bill of materials
costs.  (Though I wouldn't bet the D3x is necessarily more expensive in
BOM terms, the 900's viewfinder would be an expensive item, for
example.)

So, yeah, I'm wrong on the nobody but Sony point.  I don't think I'm
wrong on the dominant or crushing position objective on Sony's part.
Making Nikon help pay for it is just icing from Sony's point of view.

-- Graydon

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Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:41 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

 
 Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate
 seed looked like somebody's liver.

Everyone is a critic. And it will do no good to explain your artistic intent - 
if she doesn't get it, she just doesn't get it. Hopefully she makes good cake 
and cookies, and then you can her 
overlook her other shortcomings...
 
Happy New Year and best wishes for a swift recovery!

stan
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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 12:04:01PM -0500, Graydon Saunders scripsit:
 On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:48:46AM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit:
  On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 [I assert Sony wants the other DSLR makers out of business]
   I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business
   they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.
  
   Japan does have *some* anti-trust regulation, there may be long-term
   contracts in place, and I'm pretty sure no one but Sony is still using
   Sony sensors for the flagship cameras.  Which is (I think) indicative.
  
   Anybody but Sony getting/using the A900/A850 sensor?
  
  Nikon, in the D3x.
 
 A900, top 9 results on Google Products -- 2,699 USD  Release date,
 September 2009.

2008, dammit.  Must reset last year date macro.

 D3x, same top 9 minus Amazon on Google Products -- 7,499 USD for 2
 vendors, 7,999 USD otherwise.  More than twice the price.  Release date
 roughly Christmas, 2008.
 
 The 5 kUSD price difference is some mix of Sony subsidies to their
 camera prices, Sony charging Nikon rather differently than they charge
 themselves, and (presumptively) different actual bill of materials
 costs.  (Though I wouldn't bet the D3x is necessarily more expensive in
 BOM terms, the 900's viewfinder would be an expensive item, for
 example.)
 
 So, yeah, I'm wrong on the nobody but Sony point.  I don't think I'm
 wrong on the dominant or crushing position objective on Sony's part.
 Making Nikon help pay for it is just icing from Sony's point of view.
 
 -- Graydon
 
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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread P N Stenquist

Doh...
Sorry for the dumb question. Obviously, some horizontals run as spreads.
Paul
On Jan 1, 2010, at 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:


Hi Mark,

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the PDML.

A question: I notice that the specified width is greater than the  
specified height, yet the book has vertical pages. Thus, vertical  
photos will be of much lower resolution than horizontal images. Are  
these specs correct? Did you intend to provide long side vs. short  
side specs rather than height vs. width?


Paul

On Jan 1, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo  
book

project is now accepting submissions at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of December
2009) gets a shot in the book.
You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed  
acceptance).

Book will be available in late March or early April.

There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the book, held in
Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself, participation
in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)

So go for it.

IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
This will be because your country or IP block is banned due to
security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to happen if
you're in China, Korea, Russia or eastern Europe (or Australia, which
shares IP blocks with Asia).
Email me off-list and I'll open a hole in the security for your
upload.

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P N Stenquist wrote:

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the PDML.

A question: I notice that the specified width is greater than the  
specified height, yet the book has vertical pages. Thus, vertical  
photos will be of much lower resolution than horizontal images. Are  
these specs correct? Did you intend to provide long side vs. short  
side specs rather than height vs. width?

Maximum height allowable is 2400 pixels
Maximum width allowable is 3000 pixels
That's all there is to it.

If you submit a vertical it can be up to 2400 pixels tall and whatever
width is appropriate.


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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling

I'm not sure I remember; Sun?

On 1/1/2010 7:03 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 1/1/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

Its now 2010 + 6:58. Happy New Year from ol sleepy head.;-)
 

2010 + 12.01 here and just contemplating a walk in the cold winter sun.
The coffee will keep me going until a late brunch at 1.30 of scrambled
eggs, bacon, tomatoes, mushrooms :-)

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Joseph Tainter

Mark, what is the cutoff date?

Thanks,

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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 11:48:46AM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit:
 On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 [I assert Sony wants the other DSLR makers out of business]
  I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of business
  they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.
 
  Japan does have *some* anti-trust regulation, there may be long-term
  contracts in place, and I'm pretty sure no one but Sony is still using
  Sony sensors for the flagship cameras.  Which is (I think) indicative.
 
  Anybody but Sony getting/using the A900/A850 sensor?

 Nikon, in the D3x.

 A900, top 9 results on Google Products -- 2,699 USD  Release date,
 September 2009.

 D3x, same top 9 minus Amazon on Google Products -- 7,499 USD for 2
 vendors, 7,999 USD otherwise.  More than twice the price.  Release date
 roughly Christmas, 2008.

 The 5 kUSD price difference is some mix of Sony subsidies to their
 camera prices, Sony charging Nikon rather differently than they charge
 themselves, and (presumptively) different actual bill of materials
 costs.  (Though I wouldn't bet the D3x is necessarily more expensive in
 BOM terms, the 900's viewfinder would be an expensive item, for
 example.)

 So, yeah, I'm wrong on the nobody but Sony point.  I don't think I'm
 wrong on the dominant or crushing position objective on Sony's part.
 Making Nikon help pay for it is just icing from Sony's point of view.

 -- Graydon

Nikon's pricing on the D3x is known to be silly. They priced against
the intro price to the 1Ds mark III, but haven't dropped their price
as radically as Canon has.

Note there's a fairly large difference in spec outside the viewfinder
and sensor. The D3x is a flagship pro camera and built and sealed like
it, the A900 rides the line between amateur and pro and is priced like
it. The D3x is the D3s's big brother and is priced like it ($2300
premium over the D3s, and it ain't sensor cost).

You're mistaking pricing to the market (A900 is priced comparably to
its competition, the 5DmII and D700, the D3x is priced comparably to
its competition, the 1DsmIII) as being based on sensor cost. At this
level, production cost has much less to do with pricing than perceived
pricepoint, the D3x and 1DsmIII for example have HUGE margins on them.

Shoudl Sony ever come out with a true competitor to the high-res 1
series or single-digit Nikon's, you can be sure it will be priced
comparably to them.

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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling

That's only -32° F, don't you feel warmer already?

On 1/1/2010 10:23 AM, William Robb wrote:

Happy new year from the decidedly chilly north.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/cold1.jpg

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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Every manufacture want's to put their competition out of business, most 
just aren't in a position to do so.


On 1/1/2010 10:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Graydon wrote:

   

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 08:05:41AM +0100, Dario Bonazza scripsit:
 

I truly wish Pentax would be smart enough to bring out a K-7n using
that  sensor/processor combo!
   

Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
business
 

???
I don't believe that for a minute.

   



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Re: PESO: Pacific Waves

2010-01-01 Thread gldnbearz
I like the calm and the blue tone of the first image.  I like the wave
action and color of the wave on the second image, but I don't like the
orange tone to the sky and foreground.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here are two photos from the beach here in San Diego.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10426250size=lg
 and
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10426291size=lg

 I saw the blue and like the blue, but does the 2nd one look more realistic?
 Comments appreciated...
 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???

2010-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Sony want's to capture every point on the demand curve, as long as there 
are other DSLR manufactures it pays them to sell them sensors, but 
there's a much higher profit margin on DSLRs and they would certainly 
want to sell Nikon  and Pentax' former customers DSLRs instead.


On 1/1/2010 11:28 AM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Graydon
Subject: Re: K-x and high-ISO performance???





Remember that Sony now wants to put all other DSLR makers out of
business

???
I don't believe that for a minute.


I don't think they believe they can *do* it, but they're certainly
trying, or, at least, I can't come up with another explanation of just
why they're willing to so heavily subsidize their DSLR camera line.
That's the usual Sony pattern for we want a dominant-to-crushing
position in this industry.


I suspect if they really wanted to put other DSLR makers out of 
business they wouldn't be selling sensors to Nikon and Pentax.


William Robb




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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote:

Mark, what is the cutoff date?

Click the link that says Click here for full details of the book and
exhibit project(s)


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Re: Happy New Year!

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Happy New Year!


It's 2010 in Michigan and all North American points east. Smacked the 
clapper and rang the ship's bell for the 25th year in a row. Dong! Dong!!


Here's to a great new year.




Happy New Year to you too, PAUL and to EVERYONE on the list.  It's noon here 
in 2010, and we just got up.  No headaches or foggy heads here---just a 
twinge of grogginess.   Looks like there's lots of PDML mail, well, I'll 
check back later.  Gotta go!


Wishing everyone a great 2010!  Cheers, Christine




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And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
I've put it on line.
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
these are print optimized.


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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
I bought two.:-)

Dave

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

 There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
 published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
 when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

 Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
 appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
 of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
 create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
 these are print optimized.


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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jerome Reyes p...@familyfootprints.net 
 wrote:
 David J Brooks wrote:

 Did we ever find out what system you are migrating to.??



 Copy-and-pasted order form:

 EOS 7D 18.0 Megapixel Digital SLR Camera
 EF 24-70mm f/2.8L L-Series USM Standard Zoom Lens
 EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens
 100mm f/2.8 EF USM Macro Lens for SLR Camera

 I blame Cotty.




 If you haven't ordered yet, I'd drop teh 24-70L and get the 17-55 IS
 instead. Better lens overall and stabilized.

Just what the PDML needs, stabilization.

Dave

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Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Boy was I chuckling while reading this.  My wife does the same thing
to me when I take a picture of clouds.  She says, It's just a
picture of clouds... - basically if there aren't people in it she
knows, then why bother taking a picture.

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Friday, January 1, 2010, 1:41:17 AM, you wrote:


DGAJ I explained that I was taking pictures of the ice, and she
DGAJ asked, Why?

DGAJ Mom, as a photographer, if nature does something pretty,
DGAJ I want to claim credit for it.  That's why I was photographing
DGAJ ice.


DGAJ -- Glenn




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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread paul stenquist

On Jan 1, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/
 
 There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
 published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
 when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?
 
 Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
 appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
 of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
 create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
 these are print optimized.
 
 
Nicely done. Thanks for this. I do have a hardcover copy, but it's nice to be 
able to browse the pics while two-boxing in front of the television:-).
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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 1/1/2010 2:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Adam Maasa...@mawz.ca  wrote:
   

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Jerome Reyesp...@familyfootprints.net  wrote:
 

David J Brooks wrote:
   

Did we ever find out what system you are migrating to.??


 

Copy-and-pasted order form:

EOS 7D 18.0 Megapixel Digital SLR Camera
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L L-Series USM Standard Zoom Lens
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens
100mm f/2.8 EF USM Macro Lens for SLR Camera

I blame Cotty.



   

If you haven't ordered yet, I'd drop teh 24-70L and get the 17-55 IS
instead. Better lens overall and stabilized.
 

Just what the PDML needs, stabilization.

Dave
   


I thought we'd already stabilized, abet at a low level.


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Peso 1-1-10

2010-01-01 Thread David J Brooks
Happy New Year.

It has been snowing pretty much all day here. Not heavy, just a light,
some what wet snow, and no wind. I went out for my walk to day and
took the K10D. I added a km or so by doing the short trail around the
town pond. Its really a resivoiur but i call it the pond as i cannot
spell resivoiur.

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=489258

K10D, DA F 50 f2.8

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Jerome Reyes

In a word, inspiring. You guys are awesome.


Mark Roberts wrote:

...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
I've put it on line.
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
these are print optimized.


  



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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Jerome Reyes

Subject: Re: And for you cheapskates



In a word, inspiring. You guys are awesome.



Could you speak up a bit? I can't hear you over the sound of our 
awesomeness.


William Robb 



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Re: Peso 1-1-10

2010-01-01 Thread paul stenquist
Pretty pics! Trail Walk is my favorite.
Paul
On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Happy New Year.
 
 It has been snowing pretty much all day here. Not heavy, just a light,
 some what wet snow, and no wind. I went out for my walk to day and
 took the K10D. I added a km or so by doing the short trail around the
 town pond. Its really a resivoiur but i call it the pond as i cannot
 spell resivoiur.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=489258
 
 K10D, DA F 50 f2.8
 
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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote:

Nicely done. Thanks for this. I do have a hardcover copy, but it's nice to be 
able to 
browse the pics while two-boxing in front of the television:-).

Come to think of it, perhaps I should make a version of that page
optimized for smart phones  mobile devices.


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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Jerome Reyes

Adam Maas wrote:

If you haven't ordered yet, I'd drop teh 24-70L and get the 17-55 IS
instead. Better lens overall and stabilized.

  


Excellent suggestion, Adam. And it poses a very tough dilemma. I do like 
the 17-55... not so much for the stabilization, but for the width as 
compared to a 24-70L on a 1.6x crop sensor. However, the 17-55mm would 
not work on a full-frame camera. And so the dilemma is, do you build a 
lens arsenal based on what you *have* or what you *want*. My hope is 
that, with 2 or 3 more weddings this year, I can add a FF body to the 
arsenal (say, a used 5D II if canon replaces it and the price drops). 
Then the 24-70mm could reside on that body at its native focal length, 
along with the eventual purchase of a 16-35mm to complete the package... 
but who knows how far off that is (2 years? 3?). For now, the wide end 
will have to be covered by the K10D that I'm keeping along with the DA 
12-24mm (which I haven't been all that happy with to be honest... maybe 
it's just mine, but I *struggle* to get that lens to lock focus). I'm 
also keeping the 20-35mm f4 lens as my around-the-house lens coupled 
with the K10D.


In all, not a perfect solution (I am *so* not looking forward to 
shooting a wedding with 2 different systems)... but as long as money is 
still a prohibitive factor in the equation, such is life. It'll have to 
a gradual transition. I'm lucky enough as it is to be able to get so 
many components at once (though I gave up a lot in exchange, namely the 
300mm and 400mm f2.8 lenses that were going largely unused around here).


In any event, I appreciate the food for thought, and any other 
suggestions you may have. The new body and 3 lenses are already on the 
way, but returns and exchanges are not out of the question. I guess I've 
got the weekend to think about it.


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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Jerome Reyes

William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Jerome Reyes
Subject: Re: And for you cheapskates



In a word, inspiring. You guys are awesome.



Could you speak up a bit? I can't hear you over the sound of our 
awesomeness.


William Robb



LOL... I should have known.

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
Great idea, Mark!

Jack

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: And for you cheapskates
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 10:59 AM
 ...who didn't pony up for your own
 copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/
 
 There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book
 was
 published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard
 copy only
 when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?
 
 Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web.
 They may
 appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the
 book. That's
 of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that
 I didn't
 create separately optimized photos for the book and this
 web page -
 these are print optimized.
 
 
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Re: Peso 1-1-10

2010-01-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, and the same to you. Looks like a beautiful wooded area. I envy you, 
especially if it's close enough for an easy walk.

Jack

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Peso 1-1-10
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 11:38 AM
 Happy New Year.
 
 It has been snowing pretty much all day here. Not heavy,
 just a light,
 some what wet snow, and no wind. I went out for my walk to
 day and
 took the K10D. I added a km or so by doing the short trail
 around the
 town pond. Its really a resivoiur but i call it the pond as
 i cannot
 spell resivoiur.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=489258
 
 K10D, DA F 50 f2.8
 
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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Mark! 'Tis a pleasure to revisit these photos. Truly a wonderful 
collection.
I tried the site on my iPhone. It works, but it definitely helps that I had 
already seen the navigation buttons in a full-screen view. It would be nice to 
have one optimized for such devices so I could more readily share with others 
(and possibly promote sales).

stan
 

On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 paul stenquist wrote:
 
 Nicely done. Thanks for this. I do have a hardcover copy, but it's nice to 
 be able to 
 browse the pics while two-boxing in front of the television:-).
 
 Come to think of it, perhaps I should make a version of that page
 optimized for smart phones  mobile devices.
 
 
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PESO - Pensive

2010-01-01 Thread frank theriault
Was out celebrating New Years Eve with my middle daughter at (of all
places) a local bar called the Bovine Sex Club.  The feature band was
called Creepshow.  I got very few pix of the band, as a mosh pit was
happening, and when I got close to the stage I tend to get jostled too
much to shoot in low light with slow shutter speed.

So I spent lots of time photographing the young people around the bar.
 This young lady seemed especially pensive.  I know, I focused on the
wrong eye (wish I'd caught that front eye) but I still rather like
this one:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/pensive.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.  Now off to process more of last
night's festivities.

cheers,
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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
I've put it on line.
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

Damn that' a great book. Thanks for posting.

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Peter McIntosh
2010/1/2 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com

 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

 There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
 published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
 when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

 Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
 appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
 of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
 create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
 these are print optimized.


Aw, rats... I'm getting a 403-Forbidden.
Regards,
Peter in western Sydney

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, Jerome Reyes, discombobulated, unleashed:

EOS 7D 18.0 Megapixel Digital SLR Camera
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L L-Series USM Standard Zoom Lens
EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens
100mm f/2.8 EF USM Macro Lens for SLR Camera

I blame Cotty.

LOL

Personally the only thing I'd change is the camera. For the same money
get a used 1DmII. The performance level of the 1D series is a stroke of
genius, and the slightly larger sensor size pays dividends. The 24-70
will quickly turn into the lens of choice - the close focus ability is
awesome, although on an APS-C you'll miss the wide end. The 70-200 is an
astonishing lens for what it does. I'm guessing you're looking at the
100 as a portrait lens? With APS-C you might be happier with a 50? I
used the A*85 for portraiture on the 1DmII as you know and found it a
tad long, but that's just personal preference. I am dying to try it on a
36X24 camera. Not anytime soon though.

Best of luck Jerome.

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

If you haven't ordered yet, I'd drop teh 24-70L and get the 17-55 IS
instead. Better lens overall and stabilized.

That would be a better choice for APS-C. If he was going 1Dmxx or 1Dsmxx
I would stick with the 24-70.

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Re: FS: 1.4x Converter, K10D Body, etc.

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, Jerome Reyes, discombobulated, unleashed:

My hope is
that, with 2 or 3 more weddings this year, I can add a FF body to the
arsenal (say, a used 5D II if canon replaces it and the price drops).

1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds 1Ds.

Rent one and you will not consider anything else.

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Re: New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/10, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Happy new year from the decidedly chilly north.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/cold1.jpg

And that's inside the house.

Seriously - HNY bill...

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote:

Thanks Mark! 'Tis a pleasure to revisit these photos. Truly a wonderful 
collection.
I tried the site on my iPhone. It works, but it definitely helps that I had 
already 
seen the navigation buttons in a full-screen view. It would be nice to have 
one 
optimized for such devices so I could more readily share with others (and 
possibly
promote sales).

OK, I've taken a small step by writing a new stylesheet just for
mobile devices. Access the page through the same URL
(www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/) and it should detect the handheld
device - it will omit the navigation thumbnails above the individual
large images, which should clean things up a little. Let me know if
it's any better.

I'l going to experiment with Lisa's Droid phone as well.

I may end up making a separate version of the page just for mobile
devices.


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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter McIntosh wrote:

2010/1/2 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com

 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

Aw, rats... I'm getting a 403-Forbidden.

Try again. I just opened up a block of Australian IPs.
If you still can't access the page let me know your IP address
(www.whatismyip.com)


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Re: PESO - Pensive

2010-01-01 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:47:42 -0500
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I spent lots of time photographing the young people around the bar.
  This young lady seemed especially pensive.  I know, I focused on the
 wrong eye (wish I'd caught that front eye) but I still rather like
 this one:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/pensive.html

my thought is that she is perfect but I would crop down a bit more to
get the background bloke's nose shadow out of it... and incidentally if
keeping the aspect ratio was important lose the ear.

I know you try not to crop these shots after the camera so its just my
flawed aesthetics.

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Re: PESO - Pensive

2010-01-01 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:


 my thought is that she is perfect

I'd agree that ~she~ is.  I have to say, she was the most beautiful
girl in the bar last night.

 but I would crop down a bit more to
 get the background bloke's nose shadow out of it... and incidentally if
 keeping the aspect ratio was important lose the ear.

He was her boyfriend, and for some reason I wanted him in the shot,
even if no one else knows who he is.


 I know you try not to crop these shots after the camera so its just my
 flawed aesthetics.

This one required cropping, so I already cropped it to square.  I'll
try your suggestion and see how it works.

Thanks for the comment!

cheers,
frank

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FS: FA* 300mm f4.5 DA 21mm f3.2

2010-01-01 Thread wendy beard
Now on eBay

FA* 300mm f4.5
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260529354097

 DA 21mm f3.2
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemItem=260529357770

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Peter McIntosh
2010/1/2 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com:
 Peter McIntosh wrote:

2010/1/2 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com

 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

Aw, rats... I'm getting a 403-Forbidden.

 Try again. I just opened up a block of Australian IPs.
 If you still can't access the page let me know your IP address
 (www.whatismyip.com)



Silly me - should have sent this through initially.  It's 123.243.206.138.

Regards,

Pete in western Sydney

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Stan Halpin wrote:

Thanks Mark! 'Tis a pleasure to revisit these photos. Truly a wonderful 
collection.
I tried the site on my iPhone. It works, but it definitely helps that I had 
already 
seen the navigation buttons in a full-screen view. It would be nice to have 
one 
optimized for such devices so I could more readily share with others (and 
possibly
promote sales).

OK, I've taken a small step by writing a new stylesheet just for
mobile devices. Access the page through the same URL
(www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/) and it should detect the handheld
device - it will omit the navigation thumbnails above the individual
large images, which should clean things up a little. Let me know if
it's any better.

Sorry. That's not going to work... because the ASSHOLES at Apple and
Google are making their handheld browsers in the iPhone and Droid
deliberately ignore the CSS for media=handheld!

I'll get back to you...


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Re: PESO - Pensive

2010-01-01 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:36:48 -0500
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

  my thought is that she is perfect
 
 I'd agree that ~she~ is.  I have to say, she was the most beautiful
 girl in the bar last night.

the image of her is perfect in my eyes.  the missed focus on the eyes
seems to add to the pensive, far away look.



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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Alastair Robertson
I can't see it either in NZ - 60.234.227.170

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:

Stan Halpin wrote:

Thanks Mark! 'Tis a pleasure to revisit these photos. Truly a wonderful 
collection.
I tried the site on my iPhone. It works, but it definitely helps that I had 
already
seen the navigation buttons in a full-screen view. It would be nice to have 
one
optimized for such devices so I could more readily share with others (and 
possibly
promote sales).

OK, I've taken a small step by writing a new stylesheet just for
mobile devices. Access the page through the same URL
(www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/) and it should detect the handheld
device - it will omit the navigation thumbnails above the individual
large images, which should clean things up a little. Let me know if
it's any better.

 Sorry. That's not going to work... because the ASSHOLES at Apple and
 Google are making their handheld browsers in the iPhone and Droid
 deliberately ignore the CSS for media=handheld!

 I'll get back to you...


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Re: 2010 submit forms are on line

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks good, Scott.  Thanks for doing this.  What the deadline date for 
monthly submission?  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: 2010 submit forms are on line



The 2010 PUG themes and submit forms are available here:
http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20  You can also reach them from the index
page in the menu on the right.  http://pdmlpug.org/

If you see something that doesn't look right, or if you submit a photo
and get a confirmation with the wrong month in the subject line,
please let me know.  Also, the order doesn't have to be final.  I can
shuffle pretty much anything around other than January's theme.  So if
you think it makes more sense to have a particular theme during a
certain month, I'd like to hear about it.

Thanks!

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks great, Mark.  I think I'll bing-bong it around to friends  what-not. 
I purchased both hard and soft copies. Cheers, Christine



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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: And for you cheapskates



...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
I've put it on line.
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
these are print optimized.


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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks good, Mark.  Thanks for doing all this work.  It's greatly 
appreciated.


For some reason though, I can't get the book  exhibit pop up to pop up.
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!



Shake off that New Year's Day hangover and dive into your photo
archives for your best shot of 2009! The second annual PDML photo book
project is now accepting submissions at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php

All the details are on the page itself but the basics are:
We're doing a PDML photo book and every list member (as of December
2009) gets a shot in the book.
You can submit up to 3 photos (but only one is guaranteed acceptance).
Book will be available in late March or early April.

There will also be a gallery exhibit of photos from the book, held in
Chicago from May 7 to June 12. (Unlike the book itself, participation
in the gallery show costs money, so it's optional.)

So go for it.

IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT TO THE WEB PAGE:
This will be because your country or IP block is banned due to
security/hacking issues in the past. This is most likely to happen if
you're in China, Korea, Russia or eastern Europe (or Australia, which
shares IP blocks with Asia).
Email me off-list and I'll open a hole in the security for your
upload.

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:40:29 -0500
Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Mark Roberts wrote:

Brilliant collection.  definitely something to aspire to.

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Re: Chicago Photowalk--2 options

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Chicago Photowalk--2 options



Jostein is working on me.
To early for any promises, but the one who must be obeyed gave me
temporarily green light.
On one term; she is coming with me.


Groovey!  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Weather

2010-01-01 Thread Christine Aguila

Happy New Year!  Hope you're feeling better.  Cheers, Christine


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From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. dgl...@panix.com

To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:41 AM
Subject: Weather



I've been staying at my mother's house for a while, after
having gotten pneumonia after the flu (doing much better
now).  Yesterday we had some sort of solid-phase precipitation
event -- freezing rain, wintery mix, something that left
branches ice-encrusted, though by the time I was looking at
it, what was falling out of the sky had reverted to plain
liquid and what I was looking at was starting to melt.
I grabbed coat, camera, and shoes, and went out to take
some photos in the back yard.  When I came back in, Mom
asked what I was taking pictures of.

I explained that I was taking pictures of the ice, and she
asked, Why?

Mom, as a photographer, if nature does something pretty,
I want to claim credit for it.  That's why I was photographing
ice.

I don't think she understood what I meant until I uploaded
the photos to my laptop and showed her a close-up of ice on
an evergreen.  I didn't get anything spectacular, but I did
at least manage to reach pretty.

Then she complained that my macro shot of a pomegranate
seed looked like somebody's liver.

-- Glenn

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Alastair Robertson wrote:

I can't see it either in NZ - 60.234.227.170

Give it a go now. Should be OK.

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Re: Upload for the 2009-10 PDML Photo Annual is now live!

2010-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

Looks good, Mark.  Thanks for doing all this work.  It's greatly 
appreciated.

For some reason though, I can't get the book  exhibit pop up to pop up.

Do you have a pop-up blocker?

I just tested it in Firefox, Opera, Safari and IE and it works fine.
That's on Windows - I could fire up my Mac netbook and see if the OS
makes any difference but it's unlikely in this case.

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