Re: GESO - Abstract Ice

[Tom C]

Thanks Bruce, Ann, et al...

I agree with the sentiments regarding choice of images.  I saw the
higher contrast images first and liked them, but then when I saw the
natural light version of  Blue Freeze, I thought it stood out above
the others. My sloppy editing to even display them.  The others are
crap. :-)  Seriously - in retrospect they'd be in the dustbin (if they
were slides).

Thank you for the comments.

Tom


On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> I like 'Blue Freeze' the best.  Seems most natural of the group.  The
> others have light reflections that don't show them to their fullest.
> Pretty cool looking crystals.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Friday, January 15, 2010, 12:37:12 PM, you wrote:
>
> TC> Driving to town yesterday, there was a freezing fog and I saw some
> TC> views that intrigued me.  So I pulled off and went to shoot.  Well I
> TC> wasn't in my best form, was feeling rushed, and I didn't really
> TC> capture the scenes I hoped to.
>
> TC> However both getting out of the car and back in I was looking at the
> TC> frozen puddles of ice and snow on the ground.  This is what I saw,
> TC> with a K7 and DA 18-250.
>
> TC> http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=491158
>
> TC> Tom
>
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Igor, my reply is between your lines.

On 1/15/2010 7:36 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?


'Cause I like the glass and 'cause I invested enough and 'cause I am 
lazy enough not to want to move.



In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
In crude terms:
1. The AF sucks.
2. The low-light performance sucks.


Having considerable experience with *istD, K10D and K-7 and limited 
experience with *istDS, K100D and K20D I should say that K-7 has the 
best AF of the Pentax line up so far. Is it good enough *for you* - how 
could I tell. It is _mostly_ good enough for me.


It is likely that K-x outdoes K-7 re low light shooting. I, for one, 
have the very first camera in years that can shoot at ISO 1600 and ISO 
2000 and get good results. Again, I generally shoot between ISO 100 and 
ISO 400 and way more often at ISO 100 than anything else.



3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)


I played only once (like for an hour or so) with 360th flash. It wasn't 
hmmm well, it wasn't straightforward. I am using old SCA 3701 and old 
Metz flash that work for me. But I shoot very little with flash...



So, I was re-thinking my use of Pentax.
...
I enjoyed my ZX-5n greatly.


Likewise, Julia and I chose MZ-5n on top of F-80 but got MZ-6 at the 
end. It still works, the little fella...



In the last 2-3 years, I started taking photos at dance events,
and that's where quick and accurate AF matters, and low light
performance and an accurate flash are important.
So, why am I still using Pentax, and buying new bodies and lenses?


That's a good question. E.g. why don't you buy yourself a special (not 
Pentax) kit for low light (dance events) shooting? Assuming, of course, 
you've got the money.



I still like Pentax.


Count me in.


I don't like at all the consumer line of Canons (Rebels etc.).


Me too...


I seem to like mid-line of Nikon's circa 2005-2008 but have almost
no idea about their more recent (and higher) models.


I kind of dislike their colors. Yes, I know with proper processing any 
reasonable color can be obtained and all that. But I kind of like Pentax 
and Canon's colors better.



I've been looking at Panasonics that are highly regarded by some
PDMLers, but I am not sure if they have that good AF and low-light
performance.


I should've bought that Panasonic GF-1 camera for Galia with 20/1.7 
pancake, but I confused it with Olympus offering and went on buying K-7 
and giving her my K10D. I might have made a mistake...



As for Pentax, I am currently evaluating if I should exchange the K-7
for a K-x for a better low-light performance.


Some say it outshoots all of its siblings and generally is the best 
low-light low-price offering on the market today. Since this is rather 
strong and broad statement, careful examination thereof is in order.



I like that the choice of the AF mode, ISO and exponometry mode
in the K-7 is done by physical switches, not via the menu.


Good, but do you change AF mode, ISO and metering mode all that often at 
shoot-time???



I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts.


Here you have mine. Hope it helps...

Boris

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[steve harley]

On 2010-01-16 21:04 , John Sessoms wrote:

These are just plain ol' bushy tail gray tree rats. I think I'm the only
person on my street who doesn't have two outdoor cats, but they're all
too well fed. They don't even bother trying to catch the squirrels.



cats aren't stupid -- unless one is starving, catching squirrels is too 
big a risk; birds are (unfortunately) much easier prey for cats; that's 
why we put bell-collars on our outdoor cats (who are outdoor because 
they are semi-feral)


it's the ones who feed the squirrels i'd like to shock some sensibility into

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Re: PESO: Questioning Eyes

[Bruce Dayton]

I like the eyes, but would like to see just a tad more of her face.

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Saturday, January 16, 2010, 7:26:13 PM, you wrote:

ps> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750&size=lg

ps> K7D and DA*50-135




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Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics

[Bruce Dayton]

A well captured moment with a story to tell.  Nicely done, Paul.

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Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:47:41 PM, you wrote:

PNS> The Coffee Shop Portraits:
PNS> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732&size=lg

PNS> K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm




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Re: Boris PESO 2010 #01

[Bruce Dayton]

I think it needs more DOF.  It is just too shallow - I'd like the
whole butterfly to be sharp and just a bit more definition to the
spokes to give it a better frame of reference.

Close, but not quite there for me.

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Saturday, January 16, 2010, 9:24:30 AM, you wrote:

BL> Hi!

BL> I am about 1,300 messages behind. Duh!

BL> Here is another interpretation of Butterfly for Frank, this time at f1.2...

BL> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/01/peso-2010-01.html

BL> Be brutal and honest.

BL> Boris




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Re: GESO - Abstract Ice

[Bruce Dayton]

I like 'Blue Freeze' the best.  Seems most natural of the group.  The
others have light reflections that don't show them to their fullest.
Pretty cool looking crystals.

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Friday, January 15, 2010, 12:37:12 PM, you wrote:

TC> Driving to town yesterday, there was a freezing fog and I saw some
TC> views that intrigued me.  So I pulled off and went to shoot.  Well I
TC> wasn't in my best form, was feeling rushed, and I didn't really
TC> capture the scenes I hoped to.

TC> However both getting out of the car and back in I was looking at the
TC> frozen puddles of ice and snow on the ground.  This is what I saw,
TC> with a K7 and DA 18-250.

TC> http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=491158

TC> Tom




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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Bob Sullivan]

Coyotes and THE HAWK!

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
>> Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
>>
>>
>>> Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the 
>>> transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and 
>>> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
>>>
>>> I really hate squirrels.
>>
>> We never had a problem with squirrels, but then the city passed an anti cat 
>> ordinance 15 or so years ago. Now we keep squirrels as "pets".
>> If you feed them well, they play less havoc with infrastructures.
>> Unfortunately, like Tribbles, feeding them has an immediate and ghastly 
>> effect on their population if there are few natural predators.
>> Eventually, they form little squirrel gangs, and they hang around your car 
>> waiting for you to come out so that they can curse and swear at you and 
>> throw acorns at your head in an attempt to ransom more food from you.
>> They sit in the tree beside your dog run and taunt your very excitable dogs 
>> by swearing at them and throwing things at them.
>> One of them had Bella acting like a slavering idiot the other day.
>> Bella is what is called a "redirect biter". If she is going off at a 
>> squirel, she is noisy enogh that the police will be called by someone, since 
>> it sounds like she is being run through a mangling machine.
>> She cannot be distracted by anything if she's on a squirrel, and she WILL 
>> bite if you engage her directly.
>> Anyway, I share your loathing of the little beasts, though I dare not write 
>> stuff like this with the blinds open in case one of the little bastards is 
>> looking in the window with the binoculars it and it's little gang of heathen 
>> squirrel thugs relieved me of the other day.
>> And God help anyone who runs one of the little buggers over.
>> The squirrels follow those poor saps home and then eat their houses while 
>> they are at work.
>> It's mean streets I tell you.
>> At least you can make friends with a cat most of the tme.
>>
> You need coyotes. We had a lot of squirrel and rabbit problems up until a few 
> years ago. Up until the coyotes moved back into town. Now all is well.
> Paul
>
>> William Robb
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Re: naked kids pics child sex slave kid lesbian sex bbs cp pthc youngnymphet

[Ken Waller]

Is it tilted ?

Does it have a frame ?

Is it hard to understand ?

Who did it ?

Is it blurry ?

;+]

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 


Subject: Re: naked kids pics child sex slave kid lesbian sex bbs cp pthc 
youngnymphet




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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:53:53 -0600
William Robb  wrote:

> I think up Bran's way they had a few big cats move into the suburbs a
> few years ago.
> Never did hear how that worked out.

Generally sighted and then moved on.  sorry I have no photos to post
though I was on one of the river trails the same day a Cougar was
sighted on it.  Not sure how i feel about that.

Bran

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

[Bruce Dayton]

Nicely done.  Just has a very good feel - conveys the scene and
ambience very well.

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Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:09:17 PM, you wrote:

ft> Why do they call all the "Rooms to Rent" places around here "Arms"?
ft> Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
ft> picture) says "absolutely no guests after 11:30".

ft> Right...

ft> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

ft> I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

ft> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

ft> cheers,
ft> frank

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[John Sessoms]

From: paul stenquist

On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


Not as much as +I+ hate squirrels..

Four big, beautiful tomato plants last summer.  Dozens of little
green tomatoes.  ZERO red tomatoes harvested--every single one
eaten by a #...@*&!#% squirrel.


My squirrels, both red and black, don't seem to like tomatoes. The
chipmunks do however. I eventually covered the tomatoes with bird
netting. That did the trick. Paul



Not to mention the holes chewed in our trash cans.


These are just plain ol' bushy tail gray tree rats. I think I'm the only 
person on my street who doesn't have two outdoor cats, but they're all 
too well fed. They don't even bother trying to catch the squirrels.


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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

[Bruce Dayton]

All are very good, but the Crested Shrike is my fave.

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Thursday, January 14, 2010, 10:23:16 AM, you wrote:

C> The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia
C> over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so 
C> excited about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of
C> it.  On the photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds 
C> didn't want to come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't 
C> relying on food and water provided by the local reserves and the sky was
C> basically just pure clouds.

C> Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house. The
C> bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.
C>   There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even 
C> though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it
C> was overcast... of course.

C> http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

C> Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

C> comments appreciated.

C> -- 

C> Christian
C> http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/




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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!

[Bruce Dayton]

Nicely done - the postman for that neighborhood has a bit more
interesting route than others, me thinks.

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Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 3:30:00 PM, you wrote:

ft> She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last
ft> night the light from the streetlights was hitting  her in a way that
ft> made me decide to take a picture:

ft> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html

ft> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

ft> cheers,
ft> frank


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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[John Sessoms]

From: Keith Whaley

John Sessoms wrote:
> Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on 
> the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks 
> away and knocked out power for 7 blocks.
> 
> I really hate squirrels.
> 


HEY! That poor squirrel got HIS lights put out permanently!

Have some compassion. He paid for his carelessness!

keith whaley


He didn't pay enough!

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PESO: Questioning Eyes

[paul stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516750&size=lg

K7D and DA*50-135

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Rick Womer]

Our squirrels use bird netting as dental floss, to get the tomato seeds out 
from between their miserable little teeth.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Sat, 1/16/10, paul stenquist  wrote:


> My squirrels, both red and black, don't seem to like
> tomatoes. The chipmunks do however. I eventually covered the
> tomatoes with bird netting. That did the trick.
> Paul
> 
> 
> > Not to mention the holes chewed in our trash cans.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, John Sessoms 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: John Sessoms 
> >> Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
> >> To: pdml@pdml.net
> >> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:27 PM
> >> Just spent 2 hours in the dark
> >> because a squirrel got the wrong way on the
> transformer out
> >> on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks
> away and
> >> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
> >> 
> >> I really hate squirrels.
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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[paul stenquist]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Not as much as +I+ hate squirrels..
> 
> Four big, beautiful tomato plants last summer.  Dozens of little green 
> tomatoes.  ZERO red tomatoes harvested--every single one eaten by a 
> #...@*&!#% squirrel.
> 
My squirrels, both red and black, don't seem to like tomatoes. The chipmunks do 
however. I eventually covered the tomatoes with bird netting. That did the 
trick.
Paul


> Not to mention the holes chewed in our trash cans.
> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
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>> From: John Sessoms 
>> Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:27 PM
>> Just spent 2 hours in the dark
>> because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out
>> on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and
>> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
>> 
>> I really hate squirrels.
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Re: OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow

[Rick Womer]

The photographer was arrested and beaten senseless for taking photos of the 
constabulary which might, conceivably, at some indefinite future time, in a 
parallel universe, provide amusement to terrorists.

Rick

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> Subject: OT: Naughty boys playing in the snow
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Rick Womer]

Not as much as +I+ hate squirrels..

Four big, beautiful tomato plants last summer.  Dozens of little green 
tomatoes.  ZERO red tomatoes harvested--every single one eaten by a #...@*&!#% 
squirrel.

Not to mention the holes chewed in our trash cans.

Rick

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> From: John Sessoms 
> Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:27 PM
> Just spent 2 hours in the dark
> because a squirrel got the wrong way on the transformer out
> on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and
> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
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> I really hate squirrels.
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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Graydon]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 07:53:53PM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
> - Original Message - From: "paul stenquist" Subject: Re: I
> REALLY hate squirrels
>> You need coyotes. We had a lot of squirrel and rabbit problems up
>> until a few years ago. Up until the coyotes moved back into town. Now
>> all is well.
>
> No, but thanks very much.
>
> The exurbias around us have coyotes and foxes to keep the roaming pet
> population down, and sometimes they get a little close to people, but
> not often.

This is why you put up nest boxes for owls.  A thriving population of
Great Horned Owls (if you can get them) will keep down the squirrels
*and* the skunks but not present a risk to people. (Possibly cats, but
pet cats should live inside anyway.  Small yappy dogs we speak not of.)

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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist"

Subject: Re: I REALLY hate squirrels



You need coyotes. We had a lot of squirrel and rabbit problems up until a 
few years ago. Up until the coyotes moved back into town. Now all is well.


No, but thanks very much.
The exurbias around us have coyotes and foxes to keep the roaming pet 
population down, and sometimes they get a little close to people, but not 
often.


I think up Bran's way they had a few big cats move into the suburbs a few 
years ago.

Never did hear how that worked out.

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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[paul stenquist]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:07 PM, William Robb wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
> Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels
> 
> 
>> Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the 
>> transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and 
>> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
>> 
>> I really hate squirrels.
> 
> We never had a problem with squirrels, but then the city passed an anti cat 
> ordinance 15 or so years ago. Now we keep squirrels as "pets".
> If you feed them well, they play less havoc with infrastructures.
> Unfortunately, like Tribbles, feeding them has an immediate and ghastly 
> effect on their population if there are few natural predators.
> Eventually, they form little squirrel gangs, and they hang around your car 
> waiting for you to come out so that they can curse and swear at you and throw 
> acorns at your head in an attempt to ransom more food from you.
> They sit in the tree beside your dog run and taunt your very excitable dogs 
> by swearing at them and throwing things at them.
> One of them had Bella acting like a slavering idiot the other day.
> Bella is what is called a "redirect biter". If she is going off at a squirel, 
> she is noisy enogh that the police will be called by someone, since it sounds 
> like she is being run through a mangling machine.
> She cannot be distracted by anything if she's on a squirrel, and she WILL 
> bite if you engage her directly.
> Anyway, I share your loathing of the little beasts, though I dare not write 
> stuff like this with the blinds open in case one of the little bastards is 
> looking in the window with the binoculars it and it's little gang of heathen 
> squirrel thugs relieved me of the other day.
> And God help anyone who runs one of the little buggers over.
> The squirrels follow those poor saps home and then eat their houses while 
> they are at work.
> It's mean streets I tell you.
> At least you can make friends with a cat most of the tme.
> 
You need coyotes. We had a lot of squirrel and rabbit problems up until a few 
years ago. Up until the coyotes moved back into town. Now all is well.
Paul

> William Robb 
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Re: I REALLY hate squirrels

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms"

Subject: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels


Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the 
transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away 
and knocked out power for 7 blocks.


I really hate squirrels.


We never had a problem with squirrels, but then the city passed an anti cat 
ordinance 15 or so years ago. Now we keep squirrels as "pets".

If you feed them well, they play less havoc with infrastructures.
Unfortunately, like Tribbles, feeding them has an immediate and ghastly 
effect on their population if there are few natural predators.
Eventually, they form little squirrel gangs, and they hang around your car 
waiting for you to come out so that they can curse and swear at you and 
throw acorns at your head in an attempt to ransom more food from you.
They sit in the tree beside your dog run and taunt your very excitable dogs 
by swearing at them and throwing things at them.

One of them had Bella acting like a slavering idiot the other day.
Bella is what is called a "redirect biter". If she is going off at a 
squirel, she is noisy enogh that the police will be called by someone, since 
it sounds like she is being run through a mangling machine.
She cannot be distracted by anything if she's on a squirrel, and she WILL 
bite if you engage her directly.
Anyway, I share your loathing of the little beasts, though I dare not write 
stuff like this with the blinds open in case one of the little bastards is 
looking in the window with the binoculars it and it's little gang of heathen 
squirrel thugs relieved me of the other day.

And God help anyone who runs one of the little buggers over.
The squirrels follow those poor saps home and then eat their houses while 
they are at work.

It's mean streets I tell you.
At least you can make friends with a cat most of the tme.

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Re: naked kids pics child sex slave kid lesbian sex bbs cp pthc young nymphet

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

but is it art?
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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Keith Whaley]

John Sessoms wrote:
Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on 
the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks 
away and knocked out power for 7 blocks.


I really hate squirrels.



HEY! That poor squirrel got HIS lights put out permanently!

Have some compassion. He paid for his carelessness!

keith whaley

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Re: naked kids pics child sex slave kid lesbian sex bbs cp pthc young nymphet

[Scott Loveless]

On 1/16/10, Doug Brewer  wrote:
>
>
>  effin gmail.
>
>  account nuked
>
>  with prejudice

I still got some invites if you want one.

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Re: naked kids pics child sex slave kid lesbian sex bbs cp pthc young nymphet

[Doug Brewer]

effin gmail.

account nuked

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Re: The temple of deferred maintenance

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 10:33 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:




In a message dated 1/14/2010 6:09:12 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
l...@red4est.com writes:
This afternoon there was  something particularly nice about the light
around the temple of  deferred  maintenance.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4275675236/sizes/o/

from
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623087717085/

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==
Nice set, Larry.  Particularly like the pine needes.

But don't you mean the temple of  impending collapse?


I sincerely hope not.  I've been hoping to get the money to rebuild  
before it falls over.



Actually, my whole property is the Temple of Deferred Maintenance.





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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 3:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way  
on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4  
blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks.


I really hate squirrels.


I don't suppose his name was Festus.


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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

[eactivist]

In a message dated 1/14/2010 10:24:05 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
christ...@skofteland.net  writes:
http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down  smartasses...  you can click the images to make them  larger.

comments appreciated.

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Love the peacock shot, had missed it.

All  three of the bird shots are very nice to my way of thinking. Sorry the 
weather  wasn't better for your trip, though. That can be very aggravating.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:59:07 -0500
paul stenquist  wrote:

> > Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way
> > on the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4
> > blocks away and knocked out power for 7 blocks.
> > 
> Hope the little guy is okay.
> Paul

especially if it had tufted ears, cute and photogenic.

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Re: PESO - Come In

[eactivist]

In a message dated 1/15/2010 5:31:52 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Just looking through  the archives for my short list of the PDML 2009
Annual submissions and I came  across this one.  It's not on my short
list, but I found it rather  pleasant.  Hope you like it  too.

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2009/05/come-in.html

Scroll  down to the image and click on it to enlarge.

Comments  welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Nice juxtaposition of  graffiti, bike, and door.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Margus Männik]

It's simple - Canon consumer cameras (especialy their user interfaces) 
do suck even more and we  can not afford comparable piles of Nikkor 
glass. Olympus is no-no. Sony has all the same "sucking problems" as 
Pentax does plus some extra. Also, we already happen to have Pentaxes 
and as all those brand-changes are simply a form of financial suicide, 
we take pictures with 'em. The most surprising part is, that we don't 
take any less GOOD pictures than C, N, O or S owners (at least I don't 
get less good shots with my K20D than all those fancy otherbranders and 
darksiders that I review every month).


BR, Margus



Igor Roshchin wrote:

In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think
about this.

In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
In crude terms:
1. The AF sucks.
2. The low-light performance sucks.

3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)
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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

[eactivist]

In a message dated 1/14/2010 2:09:37 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Why do they call all  the "Rooms to Rent" places around here "Arms"?
Whatever, here's Parkdale  Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says "absolutely no  guests after  11:30".

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html

I  know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy.   Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Love  it, frank. Calls up a lot of mental images.

Marnie aka Doe  ;-)

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Re: Why Pentax?

[eactivist]

Why Pentax? I couldn't come up with a good  reason, so I went with Canon.

Note I started with the K-1000 and liked  it. Went Pentax Digital with the 
DS then the K-100. I liked the size of the  lenses compared to Canon (much 
smaller and lighter weight) and I do think Pentax  glass is good.

But I like zooms, and it took them about two years to come  out with the 
promised new zooms (for DSLRs). 

So that's where they lost  me, the marketing phase, the lag-time from 
announcement to in-the-stores. I got  tired of waiting and sold my K-100 and 
remaining Pentax lenses. And, note, I  took tons of good shots in the time it 
took for them to finally make the zooms I  wanted available. In other words, I 
would have lost a lot of shots waiting. (I  am not that fond of most 
primes.) Anyway, that should be no surprise to a lot of  you, because you know 
you 
had to wait a long time -- Pentax marketing leaves a  lot to be desired.

I, however, still have a Pentax Optio A40 and in some  situations it is 
dandy. Like a recent trip to Disneyland, when I didn't want to  lug a big 
camera around the park.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[Rob Studdert]

On 17/01/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

> Hope the little guy is okay.

I expect he's be a little overdone!

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Re: OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[paul stenquist]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on the 
> transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks away and 
> knocked out power for 7 blocks.
> 
Hope the little guy is okay.
Paul

> I really hate squirrels.
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Re: Why Pentax?

[paul stenquist]

On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Rick Womer wrote:
> 
>> --- On Sat, 1/16/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll always miss Kodachrome.
>>> .
>>> 
>> Not me.  Never cared for the stuff.
> 
> Same here. There were a few photographers who seemed to be able to
> work wonders with it (Steve McCurry comes to mind), but they were very
> few and far between as far as I can tell. I hated its look 99% of the
> time. Glad to see it go.
> 
I agree. I enjoyed playing with it. And I love the kodachrome's my uncle shot 
fifty to sixty years ago. But I wouldn't want to go there again.
Paul
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Re: Why Pentax?

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 01:47:19PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> 
> After 44 years, I would feel like an traitor if I shot with anything
> but a Pentax.
 
I don't feel that strongly.  I borrowed a D100 back before Pentax had
a DSLR, and a few years later a friend let me use a D1 for a day at the
track.  I've rented Canon gear when I didn't have the lenses I needed
in my bag.

But I'm far too heavily invested in Pentax glass to think about going
to anything else, even though probably 90% or more of what I shoot now
is taken using equipment I've picked up in the last 3 years (the K10D,
the 16-50 and the 50-135).  Getting the equivalents of what I can use
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OT: I REALLY hate squirrels

[John Sessoms]

Just spent 2 hours in the dark because a squirrel got the wrong way on 
the transformer out on the power pole. Tripped a main breaker 4 blocks 
away and knocked out power for 7 blocks.


I really hate squirrels.

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Mark Roberts]

Rick Womer wrote:

>--- On Sat, 1/16/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>
>> I'll always miss Kodachrome.
>> .
>> 
>Not me.  Never cared for the stuff.

Same here. There were a few photographers who seemed to be able to
work wonders with it (Steve McCurry comes to mind), but they were very
few and far between as far as I can tell. I hated its look 99% of the
time. Glad to see it go.


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Re: Why Pentax?

[Sandra Hermann]

Pentax fits my hands.  And when you work with your hands and they hurt all the 
time that is very very important!
I could afford Pentax.  I had a reasonable job, I could buy lots of stuff for 
my Pentax and not feel like I "got taken". 
The glass is good!  Very good in my opinion.  
When I touched my first Pentax I knew it was mine!  That was my pz-70.  Then 
when I went digital it was the same feeling.  

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Re: PaD #22 river sunset

[Rick Womer]

I like the shot, too, =except= for the tilt.  It makes me want to hold onto 
something to keep from sliding off the right side.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 1/14/10, frank theriault  wrote:

> > http://365xclick.blogspot.com/2010/01/winter-sunset-22365.html
> >
> > I might not be becoming a better photographer but
> getting better
> > (worse) about sharing.
> 
> GREAT photo!
> 
> And I'm not just saying that because I like the tilt - but
> the tilt is
> certainly part of what makes it.
> 
> Just beautiful.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: naked... etc. etc.

[Mark Roberts]

I've notified ovh.net and hetzner.de (though the latter is notoriously
spam-friendly). A few other people doing likewise couldn't hurt.

BTW: It looks like doip.com hasn't been hacked but is just another
"tinyurl"-type service. They'll shut off this redirect pretty quickly,
I'd wager, so it's most important to nuke the "mother ship" site at
hetzner.de

Mark Roberts wrote:

>>http://doiop.com/pornsexsex
>
>I.P. address is 87.98.250.164
>Host is ovh.net
>Abuse address is ab...@ovh.net
>
>The site in question has been hacked and redirects to another web
>site: http://fasttube.info
>...which redirects to http://cybertube.info
>I.P. address 88.198.7.58
>Hosted by hetzner.de
>Abuse address ab...@hetzner.de
>
>
>
>Doug can track the IP address from which the email originated...

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Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost

[Rob Studdert]

On 17/01/2010, Christian  wrote:

> I originally posted the video with a very detailed account of how to travel
> with guns to protect your other valuables like electronics and camera gear.
> The guy in the video never mentioned Australia but did mention that he
> traveled outside the US with the same techniques.  The TSA is not allowed
> to, BY LAW, open luggage that has been locked and has the firearms
> stickers/documentation all over it.  It is up to the check-in counter to
> verify what's in the luggage before the passenger locks it.  It seems like a
> great idea especially when you consider that a flare gun is classified as a
> firearm.

Here you need to apply and purchase a permit and also have a safe for
storage etc, I personally wouldn't try to bring any kind of firearm
into Oz.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/133228/fact_sheet_starting_pistol_permit.pdf

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Rick Womer]

Not me.  Never cared for the stuff.

--- On Sat, 1/16/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> I'll always miss Kodachrome.
> .
> 



  


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Re: PESO: Honeymoon Pics

[Bob Sullivan]

Paul,
Pretty woman, intent stare, good picture!
I especially enjoy the sharp focus throughout.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> The Coffee Shop Portraits:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732&size=lg
>
> K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm
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On 17/01/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:
> Who the hell are you? If this is a gag, you should know that your sites are 
> corrupted. If it's not a gag, you should crawl back in your hole.

This is something Doug has to fix Paul, it's not a someone.

Best deleting, calling it spam will tag all the PDML feed as spam I suspect.

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Ken Waller]

Subject: Re: Why Pentax?


2010/1/16 Igor Roshchin :

I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts


Well for starters, Pentax Spotmatic was the first SLR I ever used, around 
1967. I borrowed one from a work friend & shot some races with it @ Mosport. 
I loved the results even tho I only had use of one lens, a 135mm.


Prior to that I had been using my brother's Zeiss Ikon Contina & a 
Voightlander folder.
Another work friend was drafted and while in Viet Nam offered to get me a 
camera @ the PX. Since I was familiar with the Spotmatic so that's what I 
bought. The savings were significant - I believe I paid something like $89 
USD for an Asahi Spotmatic with a 1.4 50mm (?) lens.


Over the years I acquired more lenses, mostly Pentax, never experienced and 
letdown with the equipment so I never had a reason to switch brands - always 
thought Nikon was a bit pretentious, still do. Picked up an ES & MX.


I moved into a job that required me using a camera so I again chose Pentax 
(SF!, PZ1 & PZ1P).
About then, late 80's I started to run into problems getting my Pentax fix 
locally (buying equipment that is),
Contacted a Pentax district sales guy who understood the problem & he 
started selling me Pentax stuff @ his prices. Bought stuff I probably never 
would without his pricing - MZ-S, 600mm F4 etc.


As Pentax digital SLR's so did I - first the *istD, K10D & K20D.

As I've said I've never had a reason not to buy Pentax.

YMMV



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OT: Travel Advice -- Rome in February

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We are planning a trip to Rome in mid-February.

We usually travel to Europe only in Spring, and I would appreciate any
information from Italians or from other who have visited Italy in
winter, about what we should expect, as far as weather, crowds and
facilities that might not be open and fully operating.  For example,
are the fountains in Rome and Tivoli operating?  What are the main
piazza like?  Do restaurant still have tables outdoors?  Do people
still stroll in the evening?

Since it has been several years since our last trip to Rome, I would
also appreciate any recommendations on what to do and see, how jto get
around, and where to eat.

Thanks in advance.

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PESO: Honeymoon Pics

[P N Stenquist]

The Coffee Shop Portraits:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10516732&size=lg

K7D, ISO 1250, DA* 50-135, f5, 1/30, 135mm

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Re: OT Blastolene Bertha

[eckinator]

WHOA... gorgeous! Too bad one-offs are not affordable to us thinking
twice about a cheap lens mortals...
Thanks for sharing, Larry

2010/1/16 Larry Colen :
> Unfortunately between being backlit, there not being any room on the window
> side, and the car being quite dusty, the pictures didn't turn out well
> enough for a geso.
>
> However, I figured that the gearheads would appreciate the car.  This is one
> of my favorite hotrods.  Note that Mariah, my friend in a couple of the
> shots for scale, is six feet tall. A fun trivia quiz for the motorheads is
> to figure out what Bertha was before she was turned into a hotrod.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623093266803/
>
> More snapshot quality pictures of the car, showing some more fun details at:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623217820218/
>
>
> --
> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>
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Re: Dream lens again

[eckinator]

2010/1/16 John Sessoms :
>
> It's a dream. A wading through molasses with no pants on ... dream.

mark...

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

[Mark Roberts]

frank theriault wrote:

>On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
>> I see Keith Haring is getting ripped off on a bus shelter ad.  (Unless its a
>> real Haring and the estate
>> is getting paid for its use)
>
>Yeah, we were there, Ann, no doubt about it.  It's on Queen West, at
>the corner of Bishop Strachan, just at the edge of Trinity Bellwoods
>Park (hence the name "Parkview Arms".  We were (IIRC) walking towards
>my favourite gallery in town that specializes in photography, the
>Steven Bulger Gallery.  It happens that I live a block from there now.
> I'm not sure if I'm moving up or down in the world, but this is by
>far the most interesting and photogenic neighbourhood I've ever lived
>in!

I think the incongruity of the ad on the bus shelter makes this shot.
Very cool.


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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Like it a lot...
>
> I actually remember this corner...  you and I were doing a walkabout and I
> took a shot from that bus stop. but I went back to my 2004 trip files to
> confirm my memory wasnt playing tricks on me.  In this rare
> instance it wasn't, I'd also taken a shot of the Rooms for rent sign
> (mediocre one)
>
> What street were we on?
>
> I see Keith Haring is getting ripped off on a bus shelter ad.  (Unless its a
> real Haring and the estate
> is getting paid for its use)

Yeah, we were there, Ann, no doubt about it.  It's on Queen West, at
the corner of Bishop Strachan, just at the edge of Trinity Bellwoods
Park (hence the name "Parkview Arms".  We were (IIRC) walking towards
my favourite gallery in town that specializes in photography, the
Steven Bulger Gallery.  It happens that I live a block from there now.
 I'm not sure if I'm moving up or down in the world, but this is by
far the most interesting and photogenic neighbourhood I've ever lived
in!

Thanks for looking and commenting, and thanks to everyone else who looked!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Come In

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:43 PM,   wrote:
> Good shot. Bad invitation. ;-)

Dave, Wendy, Steve, thanks for your comments!

:-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Chippy's

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> As one who frequents the local fish fry place, i like the shot as a
> slice of TO life Frank.

Thanks, Dave, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO - Love Pillows

[frank theriault]

I wrote:

>> So many people have said that, and of course I have no idea what the
>> story to it is.

To which ann replied:


>
> and I will say it too...  I think I'd have liked to see the subject in not
> quite such a tight shot..
> Did you do it both ways?  I sometimes shoot things close up and back away
> just to record where
> I took the photo - to help remember content.
> I'm guessing its someones idea of street art... who knows who might ahve
> been watching you take the photo :)

Yes, but then if we knew the story there'd be no mystery and IMHO that
mystery is a large part of the allure of the photo!

;-)

But to answer your question, no, I didn't step back and take a
"situational" photo to put it in the context of it's surroundings.
Honestly, it didn't occur to me.  I got the shot I wanted and moved
on.

Thanks for your comments and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Christine Aguila]

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 



Like you, I love Pentax glass.


Hear, hear.  Craftmanship, like photographic results, should count, and 
Pentax scores high on this point, in my view.  Take the DA 21mm:  it's all 
metal construction is elegant and durable--it floored me to see a 
mock-velvet lined lens cap--didn't expect that upon my 1st introduction to 
that lens. Lens hood design is quite nifty, and it's just an all-around 
groovy lens, producing nice photographic results.
Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Vernissage Gathering was ANNOUNCEMENT . . . exhibit

[Mark Roberts]

Christine  Aguila wrote:

>Hi Tim:  There probably won't be a vernissage gathering.  The exhibit 
>opening reception will be Friday, May 7th in the evening--starting around 6 
>p.m. - 9:00 p.m.

Fine with me. I won't be able to get to Chicago until Friday anyway.
That's exam week for me and presents enough of a logistical challenge
already. But... I've spoken with my department chair and it looks as
if they'll be able to work my exam schedule to keep Friday and
Saturday clear for me. The joys of teaching at a small college! They'd
never have been able to move exams around for me at YSU.

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Re:Boris PESO 2010 #01

[Jay Taylor]

On Jan 16, 2010, Boris Lieberman  wrote:



Hi!

I am about 1,300 messages behind. Duh!

Here is another interpretation of Butterfly for Frank, this time at  
f1.2...


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/01/peso-2010-01.html

Be brutal and honest.

Boris



Boris,
I like the composition and the complimentary colors of the frame work  
well with the shallow DOF.
Did you also take any other angles or rotate the camera from this  
vantage point?


JayT

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Cotty]

On 16/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You *are* submitting a couple of photos to the PDML Annual and photo
>exhibit, right?

I've chosen one but having trouble with the second. I'll get there. I
haven't done much shooting of late, just a couple of paid commissions.
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Subash]

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:00:25 -0500
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> On 1/15/2010 11:22 PM, Subash wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:23:27 +0530
> > Subash  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> in fact, i got myself a k50/1.2 (which i still have) and an m28/2.8
> >> months before i got myself the *ist DS. and a query about whether
> >> the k50/1.2 was worth buying at about US$100 then was what brought
> >> me to the PDML, circa september 2006 :)
> >>  
> > what i actually wanted to add there was that i found pentax and PDML
> > almost simultaneously. fwiw, the PDML has been a major part of my
> > 'pentax experience' :)
> >
> My condolences.

am glad *somebody* understands... :)

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My Pentax history starts with an Asahi Spotmatic, back in 1966.  Later
I aquired a Honeywell Spotmatic, a Pentax Spotmatic for my son, a
ProgramPlus, a 6X7, and an MZ-5.  Like you, I love Pentax glass.  Many
of my old lenses can still be used in my *istD.  I also have an Optio
S that I carry when I don't want a larger camera and a K-2000 that I
keep in the car for photos of local wildlife and to record Rotary
meetings and other events.

After 44 years, I would feel like an traitor if I shot with anything
but a Pentax.

Dan Matyola

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Hi Igor:  Great thread, and the responses have been fun to read.
>
> My own history starts with the MX, which regrettably I sold because of
> money.
> Then acquired a Canon T90 much later (which I still have), though didn't use
> it much.
>
> I stopped photography for a good long while, but years back I bought a
> little Pentax film point & shoot (which I still have somewhere)--for
> honeymoon shots.
>
> With the digital boom, I purchased a Kodak P & S and used that thing
> constantly until it died.  I got another with more advanced features, and
> used that for a good long while, then one night I was on the net learning
> about DSLRs & googled Pentax and decided on K10D--and I've never looked
> back.
>
> It would be fair to say that my positive experience with the MX greatly
> influenced a return to Pentax for a DSLR, and I've been very, very happy
> with my decision.  I love the Pentax glass I have.  And frankly, I can't
> complain about the two Pentax bodies I have.  As I grow, I might have
> different demands, but for right now, I'm a very happy camper, & I know I
> haven't used the K20D to its full potential.
>
> I look forward to the future with Pentax--& PDML, which has been a great
> adventure for me.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:36 AM
> Subject: Why Pentax?
>
>
>>
>> In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
>> thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
>> This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think
>> about this.
>>
>> In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
>> Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
>> In crude terms:
>> 1. The AF sucks.
>> 2. The low-light performance sucks.
>>
>> 3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
>> I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)
>>
>> So, I was re-thinking my use of Pentax.
>> I started with ZX-5n back in 1997. The reason I chose it over Nikon
>> was that I didn't like ergonomics of N70/F70, and couldn't afford N90.
>> ZX-5n had incredible ergonomics, especially after coming from an
>> all-manual SLR (Kiev-19) where I could set everything blind-folded;
>> ZX-5n had all-analog knobs and buttons.
>> Despite lack of continuous AF that is found in Nikon models,
>> I enjoyed my ZX-5n greatly.
>>
>> When the time came to buy a DSLR, I thought if I should switch to
>> a Nikon, but decided to get *ist DS. And I've been rather happy with it
>> for over 4.5 years by now.
>> Yes, the low-light performance has been bothering me a lot, and
>> while until recently I didn't suffer much from the shortcomings of the
>> AF, - I just learned to work around it.
>>
>> In the last 2-3 years, I started taking photos at dance events,
>> and that's where quick and accurate AF matters, and low light
>> performance and an accurate flash are important.
>> So, why am I still using Pentax, and buying new bodies and lenses?
>>
>> While thinking about it, I recalled a very old joke about two worms.
>> A son and his father are seating in a pile of bull sh.. manure, and
>> talking:
>> -- Daddy, is it nice to live in that grove across the field?
>> -- Yes, son.
>> -- Daddy, is there plenty of food over there?
>> -- Yes, son.
>> -- Then why, daddy, we live in this pile of bull sh..?
>> -- Because that's our Motherland.
>> ...
>>
>>
>> I still like Pentax.
>> I don't like at all the consumer line of Canons (Rebels etc.).
>> I seem to like mid-line of Nikon's circa 2005-2008 but have almost
>> no idea about their more recent (and higher) models.
>> I've been looking at Panasonics that are highly regarded by some
>> PDMLers, but I am not sure if they have that good AF and low-light
>> performance.
>>
>> As for Pentax, I am currently evaluating if I should exchange the K-7
>> for a K-x for a better low-light performance.
>>
>> I just got a K-x that I will try "in action" during the weekend.
>> My first impression of a K-x is that functionality- and layout-wise,
>> it is very reminiscent of the DS. But I was rather disappointed by the
>> lack of the small top status display.
>> I don't mind the versitality of the AA's (I use them for the flash
>> anyway).
>> K-x is lighter, but compared to K-7 the feel a bit plasticy;
>> more so than that for DS.
>> I like that the choice 

Re: Why Pentax?

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Igor:  Great thread, and the responses have been fun to read.

My own history starts with the MX, which regrettably I sold because of 
money.
Then acquired a Canon T90 much later (which I still have), though didn't use 
it much.


I stopped photography for a good long while, but years back I bought a 
little Pentax film point & shoot (which I still have somewhere)--for 
honeymoon shots.


With the digital boom, I purchased a Kodak P & S and used that thing 
constantly until it died.  I got another with more advanced features, and 
used that for a good long while, then one night I was on the net learning 
about DSLRs & googled Pentax and decided on K10D--and I've never looked 
back.


It would be fair to say that my positive experience with the MX greatly 
influenced a return to Pentax for a DSLR, and I've been very, very happy 
with my decision.  I love the Pentax glass I have.  And frankly, I can't 
complain about the two Pentax bodies I have.  As I grow, I might have 
different demands, but for right now, I'm a very happy camper, & I know I 
haven't used the K20D to its full potential.


I look forward to the future with Pentax--& PDML, which has been a great 
adventure for me.

Cheers, Christine












- Original Message - 
From: "Igor Roshchin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:36 AM
Subject: Why Pentax?




In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think
about this.

In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
In crude terms:
1. The AF sucks.
2. The low-light performance sucks.

3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)

So, I was re-thinking my use of Pentax.
I started with ZX-5n back in 1997. The reason I chose it over Nikon
was that I didn't like ergonomics of N70/F70, and couldn't afford N90.
ZX-5n had incredible ergonomics, especially after coming from an
all-manual SLR (Kiev-19) where I could set everything blind-folded;
ZX-5n had all-analog knobs and buttons.
Despite lack of continuous AF that is found in Nikon models,
I enjoyed my ZX-5n greatly.

When the time came to buy a DSLR, I thought if I should switch to
a Nikon, but decided to get *ist DS. And I've been rather happy with it
for over 4.5 years by now.
Yes, the low-light performance has been bothering me a lot, and
while until recently I didn't suffer much from the shortcomings of the
AF, - I just learned to work around it.

In the last 2-3 years, I started taking photos at dance events,
and that's where quick and accurate AF matters, and low light
performance and an accurate flash are important.
So, why am I still using Pentax, and buying new bodies and lenses?

While thinking about it, I recalled a very old joke about two worms.
A son and his father are seating in a pile of bull sh.. manure, and
talking:
-- Daddy, is it nice to live in that grove across the field?
-- Yes, son.
-- Daddy, is there plenty of food over there?
-- Yes, son.
-- Then why, daddy, we live in this pile of bull sh..?
-- Because that's our Motherland.
...


I still like Pentax.
I don't like at all the consumer line of Canons (Rebels etc.).
I seem to like mid-line of Nikon's circa 2005-2008 but have almost
no idea about their more recent (and higher) models.
I've been looking at Panasonics that are highly regarded by some
PDMLers, but I am not sure if they have that good AF and low-light
performance.

As for Pentax, I am currently evaluating if I should exchange the K-7
for a K-x for a better low-light performance.

I just got a K-x that I will try "in action" during the weekend.
My first impression of a K-x is that functionality- and layout-wise,
it is very reminiscent of the DS. But I was rather disappointed by the
lack of the small top status display.
I don't mind the versitality of the AA's (I use them for the flash
anyway).
K-x is lighter, but compared to K-7 the feel a bit plasticy;
more so than that for DS.
I like that the choice of the AF mode, ISO and exponometry mode
in the K-7 is done by physical switches, not via the menu.


I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts.

Igor

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Re: The temple of deferred maintenance

[eactivist]

In a message dated 1/14/2010 6:09:12 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
This afternoon there was  something particularly nice about the light  
around the temple of  deferred  maintenance.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4275675236/sizes/o/

from
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623087717085/

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==
Nice set, Larry.  Particularly like the pine needes.

But don't you mean the temple of  impending collapse?

Marnie aka Doe  ;-)

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>Real arthouse photographers used Pentax gear and I loved that.

You *are* submitting a couple of photos to the PDML Annual and photo
exhibit, right?


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Re: Why Pentax?

[Carlos R]

Cotty escribió:

. I wanted to be associated with a
discerning elite, not a gang of ruffians. 


Then why are you here at the PDML? ;-)

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Cotty]

First camera was a Practika, then a Fujica - but my first real camera
was a Pentax MX - I chose Pentax because at the time (back in 1980) it
was considered a camera for artists - while Nikon and Canon were more
the beaters for the pro snappers. I wanted to be associated with a
discerning elite, not a gang of ruffians. Real arthouse photographers
used Pentax gear and I loved that.

A spate of cameras followed, including more MXen and LXen, and a slew of
glass.

But just a couple of years into this century I waited for Pentax to
bring out a DSLR while Canon were introducing their second (the D60
after the D30) and changed after the MZ-D died. So how shallow am I !

But always wanting the best of both worlds, I took some Pentax glass
with me to Canon, just because I could.

I wish Pentax could reclaim that arthouse feel to the brand. Just a fond
memory now. Ah well.



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Re: PESO - You've Got Mail!

[Christine Aguila]

Both Mail & Come In are fun, frank.  I like the light in Mail too.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: PESO - You've Got Mail!



She's a couple of blocks from my house so I pass by it often, but last
night the light from the streetlights was hitting  her in a way that
made me decide to take a picture:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/youve-got-mail.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: A lineup of the usual suspects

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  That's great.  Love it!  cheers, Christine


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10497232&size=lg

K20D, DA# 50-135, f5.6, ISO 400

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Re: Call for iPhone owners

[Cotty]

On 16/1/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This is not marked OT in header since it is not. However I'd like to
>be a little bit secretive yet.

It's an App which turns a Pentax camera into a full frame sensor?

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Re: Superstar Darius

[Christine Aguila]

Sweet!  Nice expression of concentration and good framing with the 2 kids on 
either side.  Having just shot for the 1st time a basketball game last 
Thursday night, I appreciate the good work here.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:16 AM
Subject: PEOW: Superstar Darius



Hi folks,
Been a while since I've posted here, but I've been without a Pentax  body 
for a while. Hopefully that will be changing real soon.

Here is an image of my grandson Darius (6) in his second year of soccer:

http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Sports/Canon-Sports-Images/D32546/759297325_kZPKt-X2-1.jpg

(captured with that other brand)

JayT

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Bong Manayon]

Call it brand loyalty but I simply like Pentax...

It cannot be blind faith since I started out with a Minolta SRT-101
(my dad's) when I was 7 years old, got my own Olympus PEN-EE when I
turned 10, then a Canon Datematic for high school then finally getting
my hands on the Spotmatic by my senior year.  I flirted with a Canon
AE-1 during college but traded that for a MX in the mid-1980s and
stayed with Pentax ever since.  Occasionally, I would 'visit' other
brands whenever I can borrow friend's cams: Nikon FM10, Minolta
505si(?), NIkon F3, Nikon 6006 (or was it 6060?), Canon 1000Fn, Nikon
D100, D70s and I did work for a studio that assigned a Minolta Dimage
A1 and a Canon 20D for my use.

At the end of the day, with whatever real or perceived handicap or
limitation that Pentax suffers from, I still like it.  So there.

PS
The fact that Pentax bodies are assembled in the Philippines has
nothing to do with it...

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
> In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
> thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
> This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think
> about this.
>
> In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
> Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
> In crude terms:
> 1. The AF sucks.
> 2. The low-light performance sucks.
>
> 3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
> I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)
>
> So, I was re-thinking my use of Pentax.
> I started with ZX-5n back in 1997. The reason I chose it over Nikon
> was that I didn't like ergonomics of N70/F70, and couldn't afford N90.
> ZX-5n had incredible ergonomics, especially after coming from an
> all-manual SLR (Kiev-19) where I could set everything blind-folded;
> ZX-5n had all-analog knobs and buttons.
> Despite lack of continuous AF that is found in Nikon models,
> I enjoyed my ZX-5n greatly.
>
> When the time came to buy a DSLR, I thought if I should switch to
> a Nikon, but decided to get *ist DS. And I've been rather happy with it
> for over 4.5 years by now.
> Yes, the low-light performance has been bothering me a lot, and
> while until recently I didn't suffer much from the shortcomings of the
> AF, - I just learned to work around it.
>
> In the last 2-3 years, I started taking photos at dance events,
> and that's where quick and accurate AF matters, and low light
> performance and an accurate flash are important.
> So, why am I still using Pentax, and buying new bodies and lenses?
>
> While thinking about it, I recalled a very old joke about two worms.
> A son and his father are seating in a pile of bull sh.. manure, and
> talking:
> -- Daddy, is it nice to live in that grove across the field?
> -- Yes, son.
> -- Daddy, is there plenty of food over there?
> -- Yes, son.
> -- Then why, daddy, we live in this pile of bull sh..?
> -- Because that's our Motherland.
> ...
>
>
> I still like Pentax.
> I don't like at all the consumer line of Canons (Rebels etc.).
> I seem to like mid-line of Nikon's circa 2005-2008 but have almost
> no idea about their more recent (and higher) models.
> I've been looking at Panasonics that are highly regarded by some
> PDMLers, but I am not sure if they have that good AF and low-light
> performance.
>
> As for Pentax, I am currently evaluating if I should exchange the K-7
> for a K-x for a better low-light performance.
>
> I just got a K-x that I will try "in action" during the weekend.
> My first impression of a K-x is that functionality- and layout-wise,
> it is very reminiscent of the DS. But I was rather disappointed by the
> lack of the small top status display.
> I don't mind the versitality of the AA's (I use them for the flash
> anyway).
> K-x is lighter, but compared to K-7 the feel a bit plasticy;
> more so than that for DS.
> I like that the choice of the AF mode, ISO and exponometry mode
> in the K-7 is done by physical switches, not via the menu.
>
>
> I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts.
>
> Igor
>
> PS. The obvious short response "BS" is not accepted. ;-)
>
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Boris PESO 2010 #01

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I am about 1,300 messages behind. Duh!

Here is another interpretation of Butterfly for Frank, this time at f1.2...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/01/peso-2010-01.html

Be brutal and honest.

Boris

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Re: Speaking of SDM...

[Christine Aguila]

No need to apologize.  Thanks for the tip!  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: Re: Speaking of SDM...


Sorry Christine, totally missed your question with the answer; yes,
the advice is given for the 50-135 as well and there are some people
saying for the others as well based on an assumption on which I cannot
comment that part of the issue may be due to grease/fat degrading and
causing the drive to go sticky. I would think this is nowadays no
longer an issue with all the knowledge available how to make
grease/fats to order with almost any conceivable property but I am not
qualified in any technical way to say it is altogether BS either
Sorry again
Ecke

2010/1/13 eckinator :

2010/1/13 Christine Aguila :


Ecke--is this for just the 16-50? Or is this advice for the 50-135mm as
well? Cheers, Christine


Hi Christine,
my understanding from my readings of failure stats published in the
internet and the few official figures given locally by Pentax country
offices / importers / first line distributors indicate return rates of
roughly 1% for the 16-50 and half that for the the 50-135 which both
sold in huge numbers explaining the number of complaints that surface
on the web and thus the high profile of the issue. Some people are
suggesting there will be SDM only G2 versions of both lenses in the
not too distant future (not sure of those rumors myself) and that they
are selling their lenses to wait for the revised version. I have no
idea if that is true and I haven't a care in the world to lose any
sleep over the issue until my new lens fails again or Pentax where it
goes next week fails to adjust focal plane and lens alignment (lots of
purple fringing and center to edge softness).
Cheers
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Re: Construction VIII

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks Derby & Chris--and everyone.  Comments much appreciated.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Re: Construction VIII



Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

Despite the ugly light today (cold & overcast), I did some construction 
shooting today.  The progress thus far is AMAZING.  There's text below 
each picture.  It's late here, & I'm listening to The Who--so whoo 
are you, hoo, hoo--hoo, hoo  :-).



http://www.caguila.com/caguila/upramp2/

Comments welcome,
cheers, Christine


The light definitely didn't hurt your shoot. Excellent documentary work, 
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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

[Christine Aguila]

Those are great, Christian.  Love the bat!  but all are super.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat


The weather really sucked for the first 2 weeks when I went to Australia 
over the holidays.  8 inches of rain in 10 days.  Everyone was so excited 
about it that I couldn't be glum so I tried to make the best of it.  On 
the photography side of things, it was a struggle.  The birds didn't want 
to come out from their hiding spots.  The roos weren't relying on food and 
water provided by the local reserves and the sky was basically just pure 
clouds.


Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The 
bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens. 
There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even though we 
had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it was 
overcast... of course.


http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Scroll down smartasses...  you can click the images to make them larger.

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Re: Vernissage Gathering was ANNOUNCEMENT . . . exhibit

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Tim:  There probably won't be a vernissage gathering.  The exhibit 
opening reception will be Friday, May 7th in the evening--starting around 6 
p.m. - 9:00 p.m.  Dank Haus is located in Lincoln Square & there are nice 
bars and restaurants within walking distance, so it'd be fun if we could 
then all walk to a place to drink or drink & eat.  Hopefully, a photowalk 
with folks on Sat or Sun or both, and maybe dinner all together on Saturday 
night.   HTH.  Cheers, Christine



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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:


I would be more than willing to help organize a vernissage gathering if
that's of interest to PDMLers.

...

It might make for a nice long weekend if folks flew in Thursday for
vernissage, then


OK, if I'm going to fly on points I should book soon.  Are we talking
afternoon or evening, do you think?  -Tim

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Re: PESO - Parkdale Arms

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


Why do they call all the "Rooms to Rent" places around here "Arms"?
Whatever, here's Parkdale Arms.  Another sign (not visible in this
picture) says "absolutely no guests after 11:30".

Right...

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/parkview-arms.html
I know it's noisy, but it's in a noisy neighbourhood.
Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

 


Like it a lot...

I actually remember this corner...  you and I were doing a walkabout 
and I took a shot from that bus stop. but I went back to my 2004 trip 
files to confirm my memory wasnt playing tricks on me.  In this rare
instance it wasn't, I'd also taken a shot of the Rooms for rent sign 
(mediocre one)


What street were we on?

I see Keith Haring is getting ripped off on a bus shelter ad.  (Unless 
its a real Haring and the estate

is getting paid for its use)

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Re: Call for iPhone owners

[David J Brooks]

22mb file, only if i can have an iDrink

Dave

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> I need a volunteer willing to download a 22 MB file to their phone and
> test something for me. Takers please contact me off-list.
>
> This is not marked OT in header since it is not. However I'd like to
> be a little bit secretive yet.
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Re: OT - how to guarantee you luggage won't be lost

[Christian]

Rob Studdert wrote:

On 16/01/2010, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Ken,
Interesting. That website was using the weapon to lock out TSA.


I don't think I'd be willing to test the theory outside the USA.



I originally posted the video with a very detailed account of how to 
travel with guns to protect your other valuables like electronics and 
camera gear.  The guy in the video never mentioned Australia but did 
mention that he traveled outside the US with the same techniques.  The 
TSA is not allowed to, BY LAW, open luggage that has been locked and has 
the firearms stickers/documentation all over it.  It is up to the 
check-in counter to verify what's in the luggage before the passenger 
locks it.  It seems like a great idea especially when you consider that 
a flare gun is classified as a firearm.


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Re: Dream lens again

[John Sessoms]

From: Sandy Harris

On 1/16/10, John Sessoms  wrote:


> Just thought of this because of the "Why Pentax" thread.
>
>  FA 50 f/1.2 ... that's FA, not FAJ, not DA, not DA*
>
>  Full frame fast 50, with a functioning aperture ring, so I could manually
> set the aperture on the lens if I wanted to.


Do you really need auto-focus, and is it likely to be accurate
enough with such a lens? If so, why isn't your dream asking
for SDM, perhaps FA *?



It's a dream. A wading through molasses with no pants on ... dream.


If not, what's wrong with the A series 50/1.2?


Nothing wrong with it other than it never seems to be available when I 
have money, and is frequently offered only when I don't.


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Re: Why Pentax?

[Graydon]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:53:51PM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
> Pentax: It's excellent pilow stuffing.
> My dog won't let me near it so I can't use it, much less change systems.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer_still/1719.html

Took that with your camera phone, did you?

Aside from the obvious situational merits, I really like how the colour
palette works in that one.

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Graydon]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:39:03AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
> - Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin"
>> I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts.
>
> I like Pentax glass and I have a lot of it.  This is a very strong
> incentive to stay with the brand and bleat at them  until they come up
> with the perfect camera.

Price/performance, notably viewfinder, lenses, and image quality.

I don't seem to take pictures in conditions where the AF matters hugely
(flying birds, but that's a the-challenge-is-half-the-fun situation
anyway) or in light conditions where high ISO is of great concern.  I
don't own a flash.

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Re: GESO - Abstract Ice

[ann sanfedele]

I much prefer the no-flash one...  to me the others just say "look, I 
used flash for this"  


best,
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Tom C wrote:


Thanks. The middle bluish one was a different puddle and was shot
using natural light only.  The other two were flash shots.

Tom

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM, eckinator  wrote:
 


2010/1/15 eckinator :
   


What Christian said - was 3 a different puddle or did you play with WB?
Cheers Ecke
 


sorry, i was meaning to say i like 2 best for the colder tone / mood

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RE: Why Pentax?

[Steve Sharpe]

Why Pentax? It's the masochistic streak in me. My other system is Miranda.

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Re: Why Pentax?

[Tom C]

Mark!

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 7:59 AM, P. J. Alling
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> I'll always miss Kodachrome. .
>

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Re: Why Pentax?

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/15/2010 11:22 PM, Subash wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:23:27 +0530
Subash  wrote:

   

in fact, i got myself a k50/1.2 (which i still have) and an m28/2.8
months before i got myself the *ist DS. and a query about whether the
k50/1.2 was worth buying at about US$100 then was what brought me to
the PDML, circa september 2006 :)
 

what i actually wanted to add there was that i found pentax and PDML
almost simultaneously. fwiw, the PDML has been a major part of my
'pentax experience' :)
   

My condolences.


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Re: Why Pentax?

[P. J. Alling]

I'll always miss Kodachrome. .

On 1/16/2010 9:24 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I started with a ME in '78 and left the camera shop lusting for more lenses.
I bought more of the M lenses, then a Super Program, then a PZ-1.
Then I found this list and the house filled up with Pentax gear -
screwmount to 67's.
Digital has been a great for me and with the K-7, I no longer miss Kodachrome.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
   

In 1973 the guy who drove the race car I wrenched asked me if I wanted to buy a 
screw mount Mamiya 1000 DTl  and two lenses.: a Mamiya 55/1.8  and a Vivitar 
200/3.5. I was just getting into magazine journalism, so I bought them. A year 
or two  later I added a Vivitar 20mm/3.5 and a Mamiya 135/2.8. I used them for 
quite a few years, eventually replacing the Mamiya body with a Fuji and a used 
Pentax H3v. Made plenty of money with those cameras.  In later years I cut way 
back on the journalism and the cameras sat for a while. But I was a screw mount 
fan, so some years later I bought a couple of Spotmatic Fs and a bunch of 
Pentax screw mount lenses. I even bought a Spotmatic Motor Drive. Then I 
thought I really ought to have an LX, then an MX, and of course more lenses. 
Got back into journalism and added still more lenses and bodies. Then came 
digital, so naturally I went with a camera that would mount all my K lenses. 
I'm on my fifth Pentax digital now. Love the K7. Low light is good enough for 
me. Wouldn't mind better autofocus, but I can make this setup work. I'd switch 
if I was shooting football or working a heavy photo-J beat, but for what I'm 
doing, Pentax is just fine. Still have a lot of my screw mount equipment. The 
Vivitar 200/3.5, which has some duct tape holding the manual/auto switch in 
place and plenty of cleaning scratches on the front element, has a place of 
honor in my displace case.
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Bob Sullivan]

Sorry, I guess the WHY PENTAX is I fell in love with the camera and
lenses early for compact size and quality.  Later, this list hss
played a big role in informing me about Pentax and giving me
confidence in buying new Pentax offerings.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> I started with a ME in '78 and left the camera shop lusting for more lenses.
> I bought more of the M lenses, then a Super Program, then a PZ-1.
> Then I found this list and the house filled up with Pentax gear -
> screwmount to 67's.
> Digital has been a great for me and with the K-7, I no longer miss Kodachrome.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM, paul stenquist  
> wrote:
>>
>> In 1973 the guy who drove the race car I wrenched asked me if I wanted to 
>> buy a screw mount Mamiya 1000 DTl  and two lenses.: a Mamiya 55/1.8  and a 
>> Vivitar 200/3.5. I was just getting into magazine journalism, so I bought 
>> them. A year or two  later I added a Vivitar 20mm/3.5 and a Mamiya 135/2.8. 
>> I used them for quite a few years, eventually replacing the Mamiya body with 
>> a Fuji and a used Pentax H3v. Made plenty of money with those cameras.  In 
>> later years I cut way back on the journalism and the cameras sat for a 
>> while. But I was a screw mount fan, so some years later I bought a couple of 
>> Spotmatic Fs and a bunch of Pentax screw mount lenses. I even bought a 
>> Spotmatic Motor Drive. Then I thought I really ought to have an LX, then an 
>> MX, and of course more lenses. Got back into journalism and added still more 
>> lenses and bodies. Then came digital, so naturally I went with a camera that 
>> would mount all my K lenses. I'm on my fifth Pentax digital now. Love the 
>> K7. Low light is good enough for me. Wouldn't mind better autofocus, but I 
>> can make this setup work. I'd switch if I was shooting football or working a 
>> heavy photo-J beat, but for what I'm doing, Pentax is just fine. Still have 
>> a lot of my screw mount equipment. The Vivitar 200/3.5, which has some duct 
>> tape holding the manual/auto switch in place and plenty of cleaning 
>> scratches on the front element, has a place of honor in my displace case.
>> Paul
>>
>>
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Bob Sullivan]

I started with a ME in '78 and left the camera shop lusting for more lenses.
I bought more of the M lenses, then a Super Program, then a PZ-1.
Then I found this list and the house filled up with Pentax gear -
screwmount to 67's.
Digital has been a great for me and with the K-7, I no longer miss Kodachrome.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
>
> In 1973 the guy who drove the race car I wrenched asked me if I wanted to buy 
> a screw mount Mamiya 1000 DTl  and two lenses.: a Mamiya 55/1.8  and a 
> Vivitar 200/3.5. I was just getting into magazine journalism, so I bought 
> them. A year or two  later I added a Vivitar 20mm/3.5 and a Mamiya 135/2.8. I 
> used them for quite a few years, eventually replacing the Mamiya body with a 
> Fuji and a used Pentax H3v. Made plenty of money with those cameras.  In 
> later years I cut way back on the journalism and the cameras sat for a while. 
> But I was a screw mount fan, so some years later I bought a couple of 
> Spotmatic Fs and a bunch of Pentax screw mount lenses. I even bought a 
> Spotmatic Motor Drive. Then I thought I really ought to have an LX, then an 
> MX, and of course more lenses. Got back into journalism and added still more 
> lenses and bodies. Then came digital, so naturally I went with a camera that 
> would mount all my K lenses. I'm on my fifth Pentax digital now. Love the K7. 
> Low light is good enough for me. Wouldn't mind better autofocus, but I can 
> make this setup work. I'd switch if I was shooting football or working a 
> heavy photo-J beat, but for what I'm doing, Pentax is just fine. Still have a 
> lot of my screw mount equipment. The Vivitar 200/3.5, which has some duct 
> tape holding the manual/auto switch in place and plenty of cleaning scratches 
> on the front element, has a place of honor in my displace case.
> Paul
>
>
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Call for iPhone owners

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I need a volunteer willing to download a 22 MB file to their phone and
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This is not marked OT in header since it is not. However I'd like to
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Re: Why Pentax?

[Adam Maas]

As a practical matter, I'm not shooting Pentax anymore. I do have a K2
and a Cosina C1s along with 2 K mount and 2 M42 primes, 3 of which are
Pentax lenses. All get used occasionally.

Frankly, I like Pentax's glass better than Nikons, but dislike the
lack of availability of the sort of lenses I prefer to work with
(fast, smallish primes).

Right now my primary systems are Nikon film, LTM/M mount film and
4/3/m43 digital. I've also got a bit of OM gear and some Minolta AF
kit. I'm likely going to thin the herd this year but I haven't decided
whether or not the last 35mm SLR system will be Nikon MF kit or
Minolta AF kit. Sadly, Pentax just doesn't make the grade, there's
just not enough options in Pentax bodies with the features I want:
Good handling, available 3+ fps, good viewfinder, at least 1/4000 max
shutter, AA or S76/LR44 batteries as an option at least). In fact
there are exactly no options from Pentax with the features I want
while there are several Nikon and Minolta options, the PZ-1p comes
closest but fails on batteries, the MZ-S fails on fps, both are very
expensive for their level of performance (particularly the MZ-S which
was never a high-performance body).

For digital I'm either going to stay with the Oly and Panasonic kit or
move to a Sony FF/Panasonic m43 setup. I've been seriously impressed
by the A900 and A850 and the latter is a steal compared to the
competition.

-Adam

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
> In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, I've been
> thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
> This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what others think
> about this.
>
> In the past few weeks I realized that compared to other brand DSLR's
> Pentax DSLRs (even the "flagman" K-7) has serious problems.
> In crude terms:
> 1. The AF sucks.
> 2. The low-light performance sucks.
>
> 3. The P-TTL performance is inconsistent (I don't know how
> I-TTL/E-TTL etc. are in that regard - any comments?)
>
> So, I was re-thinking my use of Pentax.
> I started with ZX-5n back in 1997. The reason I chose it over Nikon
> was that I didn't like ergonomics of N70/F70, and couldn't afford N90.
> ZX-5n had incredible ergonomics, especially after coming from an
> all-manual SLR (Kiev-19) where I could set everything blind-folded;
> ZX-5n had all-analog knobs and buttons.
> Despite lack of continuous AF that is found in Nikon models,
> I enjoyed my ZX-5n greatly.
>
> When the time came to buy a DSLR, I thought if I should switch to
> a Nikon, but decided to get *ist DS. And I've been rather happy with it
> for over 4.5 years by now.
> Yes, the low-light performance has been bothering me a lot, and
> while until recently I didn't suffer much from the shortcomings of the
> AF, - I just learned to work around it.
>
> In the last 2-3 years, I started taking photos at dance events,
> and that's where quick and accurate AF matters, and low light
> performance and an accurate flash are important.
> So, why am I still using Pentax, and buying new bodies and lenses?
>
> While thinking about it, I recalled a very old joke about two worms.
> A son and his father are seating in a pile of bull sh.. manure, and
> talking:
> -- Daddy, is it nice to live in that grove across the field?
> -- Yes, son.
> -- Daddy, is there plenty of food over there?
> -- Yes, son.
> -- Then why, daddy, we live in this pile of bull sh..?
> -- Because that's our Motherland.
> ...
>
>
> I still like Pentax.
> I don't like at all the consumer line of Canons (Rebels etc.).
> I seem to like mid-line of Nikon's circa 2005-2008 but have almost
> no idea about their more recent (and higher) models.
> I've been looking at Panasonics that are highly regarded by some
> PDMLers, but I am not sure if they have that good AF and low-light
> performance.
>
> As for Pentax, I am currently evaluating if I should exchange the K-7
> for a K-x for a better low-light performance.
>
> I just got a K-x that I will try "in action" during the weekend.
> My first impression of a K-x is that functionality- and layout-wise,
> it is very reminiscent of the DS. But I was rather disappointed by the
> lack of the small top status display.
> I don't mind the versitality of the AA's (I use them for the flash
> anyway).
> K-x is lighter, but compared to K-7 the feel a bit plasticy;
> more so than that for DS.
> I like that the choice of the AF mode, ISO and exponometry mode
> in the K-7 is done by physical switches, not via the menu.
>
>
> I would be glad to hear what others have to say about these thoughts.
>
> Igor
>
> PS. The obvious short response "BS" is not accepted. ;-)
>
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RE: Why Pentax?

[Bob W]

> have no desire to be parted from any of them (I only want the 
> weather resistant 100 macro that will soon be released (Is 
> there another brand with weather resistant lenses?))

Olympus 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of Leon Altoff
> Sent: 16 January 2010 12:25
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> Subject: Re: Why Pentax?
> 
> My first SLR was an MX with an M50 f1.7 lens bought new in 
> 1981 (before I know about second hand gear).  I still own them.
> 
> Since then I have been slowly buying new gear, upgrading and 
> building up to my current kit.  Every lens is Pentax (with 
> the exception of 3 Olympus macro lenses I use on a set of 
> bellows), flashes are Pentax.
> Yes there are idiosyncrasies to the gear, but we get to know 
> each other and generally work well together.
> 
> I've always liked the feel of the Pentax cameras and every 
> Canon I've picked up feels horrid (to me at least).  My slow 
> approach to upgrading means that I could probably have 
> changed brands completely over any given 4 year period over 
> the past 29 years.  Given the lenses I now own and the fact I 
> have no desire to be parted from any of them (I only want the 
> weather resistant 100 macro that will soon be released (Is 
> there another brand with weather resistant lenses?)), I'm 
> probably with Pentax for another 10 years at least.
> 
> If there were no more Pentax and technology moved on to the 
> point I felt I needed new gear I would look at Nikon and 
> possibly Sony, but Pentax is not so far behind or so 
> unreliable that I have any desire to change now.
> 
> Leon
> MX, Super A, Z1p, MZ-S, *ist D and some modern stuff.
> 
> 2010/1/16 Igor Roshchin :
> >
> > In view of various comments from people about K-7 and K-x, 
> I've been 
> > thinking, - why am I shooting with Pentax?
> > This is a summary of my thoughts - I'd like to hear what 
> others think 
> > about this.
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Re: Dream lens again

[Bob Sullivan]

A copy of this lens was recently listed on ebay for big .

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>
> Pentax made a special edition SMC-A 50mm f/1.2 with a Ltd like
> body...but no AF. It was made for the LX Millennium edition. Pics of
> lens and camera:
>
> http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/pentaxy2k/htmls/index.htm
>
> One of these, priced like the 31 Ltd, would be very nice. I'd sell a
> few lenses in order to buy it.
>
> Not going to happen, though.

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Re: GESO - 3 birds, a frog and a bat

[Cotty]

On 14/1/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's a few shots of the local wildlife around my in-laws' house.  The
>bat (a gray-headed flying fox) is from the Sydney Royal Botanic Gardens.
>  There are thousands of them roosting there during the day.  Even
>though we had more sun in Sydney, when I went to the botanic gardens it
>was overcast... of course.
>
>http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Superb gallery Christian - all fabulous. Very envious, I would love to
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