The Book Arrives Downunder

2010-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

Well the tracking this morning said that it was on the truck but it was
after 3:30 this afternoon (Tuesday) before the FedEx man knocked on the
door, book in hand.  Just over a week from placing the order to receipt
of the printed work.  That's pretty amazing!

I'm looking forward to sitting down tonight and going through it in
detail but first impressions are that it is at least as good as last
year - and that's high praise.

The actual quality of the book production is definitely better this
year.  I went for the hard cover with dust jacket (the same as last
year) and the binding and the fit of the dust jacket are markedly
improved this time.


Cheers

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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks for everyone for looking and commenting.
Bruce, the tilt was intentional.

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


 I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy
 tilted shots - [...]


 Stand on a slope.


 SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-27 Thread mike wilson

 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 FYI
 http://tinyurl.com/3x7xw6g
 http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-19/1271958762140750.xmlstorylist=entertainment

Wow.  I haven't been described as ardent for a very long time.

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-27 Thread Dario Bonazza

mike wilson wrote:


 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

FYI
http://tinyurl.com/3x7xw6g
http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-19/1271958762140750.xmlstorylist=entertainment


Wow.  I haven't been described as ardent for a very long time.


This deserves a... Mark! 



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Re: Just got my WP site hacked!!!!!!

2010-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 http://blogcastfm.com/announcements/warning-massive-number-of-godaddy-wordpress-blogs-hacked-this-weekend/

Someone sent me that link at work this morning and I was going to post it here, 
you beat me to it :)

Apparently its not just Godaddy (so I've heard) but they've had a lot of sites 
hit so it's made it into the news.  Zero-day exploits are never fun and I hope 
they get it fixed soon.

Joomla (another CMS that I use) just released a relatively minor security 
update but it contains bugs so another patch is coming out in the next day or 
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Cheers,
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Re: 645D for everybody

2010-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

 Woohoo! Me want one!!

So do I but if I managed to get my hands on one I'd disappear into the 
mountains, only appearing once every few months to post a geso.

I'd probably even end up with a beard.

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Re: PESO: One more storm shot

2010-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Also needs a bit more foreboding.

There's an app for that.

Dave

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Re: PESO - Some people have the nicest toys ...

2010-04-27 Thread David Mann
On Apr 27, 2010, at 1:59 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 He likes his primary colours.  Just needs a white DB9 for a full set.

Yes, he should sell the Mercedes and buy a DB9.  I'd go for charcoal instead of 
white.

Dave


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Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
Book arrived this morning :)

Totally cool and just a bit special.

Quick flick-through: stunning.

Longer flick through: better.

Full sedated meander this afternoon.

Mark is getting too good at this lark - just a superb job. And the rest
of the team, thanks.

BTW, an honour to have one of my pics as the title page for the Quotations :))

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RE: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Bob W
 
 Book arrived this morning :)
 
 Totally cool and just a bit special.
 
 Quick flick-through: stunning.
 
 Longer flick through: better.
 
 Full sedated meander this afternoon.
 
 Mark is getting too good at this lark - just a superb job. 
 And the rest of the team, thanks.
 
 BTW, an honour to have one of my pics as the title page for 
 the Quotations :))
 

I'd quite like to be in next year's book as a photographer, not a
smart-arse. Since I can't afford a K7+lenses, and I don't want to recycle
old photos from my Pentax days, and since I would also like a tough little
carry-everywhere ps-type camera, does Pentax do anything along the lines of
the micro-4/3rds? Similar perhaps to the Panny Lumix L1, or the DMC-LX3?
That is, well-built, has full manual controls, preferably shoots raw,
shirt-pocketable, tough construction preferably metal?

Bob


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 I'd quite like to be in next year's book as a photographer, not a
 smart-arse. Since I can't afford a K7+lenses, and I don't want to recycle
 old photos from my Pentax days, and since I would also like a tough little
 carry-everywhere ps-type camera, does Pentax do anything along the lines of
 the micro-4/3rds? Similar perhaps to the Panny Lumix L1, or the DMC-LX3?
 That is, well-built, has full manual controls, preferably shoots raw,
 shirt-pocketable, tough construction preferably metal?

That's a negative, Bob, over.
Sorry =(
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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

Book arrived this morning :)

Totally cool and just a bit special.

Quick flick-through: stunning.

Longer flick through: better.

Full sedated meander this afternoon.

Mark is getting too good at this lark - just a superb job. And the rest
of the team, thanks.

BTW, an honour to have one of my pics as the title page for the Quotations :))

It's not *completely* one of your pics. Look closely...


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread SV Hovland
Unfortunately not.

does Pentax do anything along the lines of the micro-4/3rds?
That is, well-built, has full manual controls, preferably shoots raw,
shirt-pocketable, tough construction preferably metal?

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Re: PESO: One more storm shot

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz:
 On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Also needs a bit more foreboding.

 There's an app for that.

Content Afore Bode?
Silly me =)
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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/26 Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/

A fun shot and well executed. Proud dad, anyone? =)
Cheers
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Re: OT - PhotographyBB - Online Magazine

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
Thank you Brian for sharing!
Pointed my download manager to this page and grabbed *.pdf - will
report later =)
Cheers
Ecke

2010/4/27 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 G'day all

 Some may be interested in this.

 PhotographyBB is a free online photography magazine now up to issue 27.
 It's issued monthly in PDF format and it's not the worst photo mag I've
 even read.  Certainly worth a look if you haven't seen it before.

 http://www.photographybb.com/site-news/photographybb-online-magazine-27th-edition/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+photographybb+%28PhotographyBB+RSS+Feed%29


 http://tinyurl.com/22uoc5l


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Re: OT - PhotographyBB - Online Magazine

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
THIS page: http://www.photographybb.com/magazine/

2010/4/27 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
 Thank you Brian for sharing!
 Pointed my download manager to this page and grabbed *.pdf - will
 report later =)
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/4/27 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 G'day all

 Some may be interested in this.

 PhotographyBB is a free online photography magazine now up to issue 27.
 It's issued monthly in PDF format and it's not the worst photo mag I've
 even read.  Certainly worth a look if you haven't seen it before.

 http://www.photographybb.com/site-news/photographybb-online-magazine-27th-edition/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+photographybb+%28PhotographyBB+RSS+Feed%29


 http://tinyurl.com/22uoc5l


 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Sandy Harris
On 4/27/10, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

  does Pentax do anything along the lines of the micro-4/3rds?

No, and I'd say they should. There is a Samsung along those lines.

 That is, well-built, has full manual controls, preferably shoots raw,
  shirt-pocketable, tough construction preferably metal?

The K-X is not far off.

I just went to DP Review  used their side-by-side feature to
compare Pentax K-X vs Panasonic G2.

Panny  124 x 84 x 74 mm (4.9 x 3.3 x 2.9 in)
Pentax 123 x 92 x 68 mm (4.8 x 3.6 x 2.7 in)

Awfully close. Put a Pentax Limited lens on it and the K-x
might actually be smaller overall.

Panny 428 g (15.1 oz) and Pentax 580 g (20.5 oz)
A significant difference there, mainly because the K-X
uses AA batteries.

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread mark
Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:

On 4/27/10, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

  does Pentax do anything along the lines of the micro-4/3rds?

No, and I'd say they should. There is a Samsung along those lines.

I got to play with the Samsung a couple of weeks ago (courtesy of our
pal Miserere) and it's a pretty cool little camera. Not quite ready
yet was my general impression - electronic viewfinder was awful (same
as the competition, in other words) and there were a few other little
foibles. But I know all this will improve in the future and was really
impressed with the size and feel of the camera. So much so that I'd
venture to say this is the wave of the future.

I'd be amazed if Pentax *wasn't* working on one, but who knows when we
might see it on the shelves.

Meanwhile... a cheap way to get a small, high-quality Pentax to shoot
photos for next year's book would be an MX or ME Super ;-)

And if you don't need small you can buy my 645!

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Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-27 Thread mark
Is anyone seriously investigating this? Seems like a cool idea (if we
can get an Internet connection at the gallery). I have a Lenovo laptop
running Windows 7 and a Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 and both
have teleconferencing cameras. If someone wants to have a go just tell
me which one I should bring.

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:23 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Wow.  I haven't been described as ardent for a very long time.

Arden't you glad they didn't call you bananas?

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Re: Trying out the new FA 100mm f2.8 macros

2010-04-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
You're already doing better work with it than I ever did.  And the
phrase Her mother's daughter comes to mind as well ;-)

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks good to me.

 Dave

 On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Well, it arrived safe and sound, and I needed to get out and give her a test 
 run!  So here are the results, as shot yesterday for a magazine cover shot 
 competition.  Model is Molly-Rose, my little 7yo fashionista.

 She is currently “the face” of Charlipop  Kids and Agoo, so I am trying hard 
 to not let her head get too big, but she is so fun to work with!

 Anyways, no flash on these, just a reflector, the FA 100mm, mostly shot wide 
 open at f2.8 as it was almost dark.  I think exposures vary from like 1/1000 
 right down to 1/60 as the sun set, ISO800
 and on my K-7.

 http://www.lovebytes.com.au/galleries/shopolatcomp/

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 5:37 AM, Bob W wrote:

Book arrived this morning :)

Totally cool and just a bit special.

Quick flick-through: stunning.

Longer flick through: better.

Full sedated meander this afternoon.

Mark is getting too good at this lark - just a superb job.
And the rest of the team, thanks.

BTW, an honour to have one of my pics as the title page for
the Quotations :))

 

I'd quite like to be in next year's book as a photographer, not a
smart-arse. Since I can't afford a K7+lenses, and I don't want to recycle
old photos from my Pentax days, and since I would also like a tough little
carry-everywhere ps-type camera, does Pentax do anything along the lines of
the micro-4/3rds? Similar perhaps to the Panny Lumix L1, or the DMC-LX3?
That is, well-built, has full manual controls, preferably shoots raw,
shirt-pocketable, tough construction preferably metal?

Bob
   


No, but maybe they'll re-badge the Samsung NX[something].



   



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attention Phil Northeast :-))))

2010-04-27 Thread Christine Aguila

Hey Phil:


Thanks for this:

***Included in the PDML annual are quotations from the e-mails that 
illustrate that fun is part of photography;
You know, I'm really going to have to stop drinking if I want to make a 
photograph sharp and in focus like yours.- Christine Aguila.***


I'M COMING TO TASMANIA, and I'm bringing my urban-toughie-buddies from the 
Back of the Yards with me.


:-)))

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/99.html


Seriously, nice piece, Phil--you done PDML good.  Cheers, Christine

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-27 Thread Tom C
Nice story!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 FYI
 http://tinyurl.com/3x7xw6g
 http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-19/1271958762140750.xmlstorylist=entertainment

 Cheers, Christine


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27  m...@robertstech.com:

 I'd be amazed if Pentax *wasn't* working on one, but who knows when we
 might see it on the shelves.

IMVHO they should have saved the 110 or i10 name and look for that and
not wasted it on a little ps
But I'd definitely hope to see one from them, no matter what it will be called
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Re: OT - PhotographyBB - Online Magazine

2010-04-27 Thread Tom C
Interesting magazine.  Thank you!

Tom C.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 Some may be interested in this.

 PhotographyBB is a free online photography magazine now up to issue 27.
 It's issued monthly in PDF format and it's not the worst photo mag I've
 even read.  Certainly worth a look if you haven't seen it before.

 http://www.photographybb.com/site-news/photographybb-online-magazine-27th-edition/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+photographybb+%28PhotographyBB+RSS+Feed%29


 http://tinyurl.com/22uoc5l


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Imperial Units

2010-04-27 Thread Doug Franklin

A great quotation from this article

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/173067,top-10-technology-mistakes.aspx

in reference to the Mars Climate Orbiter errors:

Imperial measurements are a curious thing for a British person to 
consider.  We invented the damn things and it keeps coming back to bite 
us on the backside. -- Iain Thomson


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Re: 645D for everybody

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 04:53, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:

 I'd probably even end up with a beard.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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Re: Just got my WP site hacked!!!!!!

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 04:51, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
 On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:48 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 http://blogcastfm.com/announcements/warning-massive-number-of-godaddy-wordpress-blogs-hacked-this-weekend/

 Someone sent me that link at work this morning and I was going to post it 
 here, you beat me to it :)

 Apparently its not just Godaddy (so I've heard) but they've had a lot of 
 sites hit so it's made it into the news.  Zero-day exploits are never fun and 
 I hope they get it fixed soon.

 Joomla (another CMS that I use) just released a relatively minor security 
 update but it contains bugs so another patch is coming out in the next day or 
 so.

 Cheers,
 Dave

GoDaddy are a very big, affordable hosting service, and they're
WordPress friendly in that you can have WP installed through the
control panel without really knowing anything about it, which is great
for newbies--just a few clicks and you've got a blog up and running. I
managed to move my blog from WordPress.com to my own server in an
afternoon without too much trouble. It's only natural that they have
more WP blogs than other providers (I'm pretty sure that's accurate)
and that they get hit harder.

My website is still up and healthy today, which is cause for
restrained happiness given last week's events.

Cheers,


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Re: PESO: Red Wing BBird

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
I use the iBook for most of my internet now, and the screen is running
as it did out of the box, so how ever that is set up.

The tip of the red spot is bright red, but as it goes towards the rear
of the bird, it looks mauve ish.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks, Dave! I'll take it as a compliment. (ooF always distracts me 
 slightly, as well). I don't want to influence your thinking, but I had an off 
 list person state the his monitor reproduces the red as less than a true 
 blood red. How do you see it?
 Thanks much!

 Jack

 --- On Mon, 4/26/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing BBird
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 3:22 PM
 Nice. I'm always impressed with your
 55-300 shots. Lens seems very nice.

 Not sure if those fore ground OOF yellow bits as a bother
 or not.
 Can't decide so i guess thats a good thing, yes.:-)

 Dave

 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  This AM I was driving along a country road lined with
 wild mustard and blooming thistles, when I noticed it was
 almost infested with Red Wing Black Birds.
  Lucky to run across it, but they are very skittish and
 the wind wasn't making it any easier.
  Caught a couple that will, at least, work for spring
 wallpaper.
  Love their song.
 
 
  Jack
 
  Comments?
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=494
 
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Re: PESO - Some people have the nicest toys ...

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. Colours look very rich.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:02 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:


 On Saturday I took advantage of a some nice weather to
 grab a few shots of cars belonging to an accquaintance:

    http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW1016

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Re: PESO - Springing forth

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Taken on the same walk with the duck shot.

I leave my duck at home when i go out for a walk. All he does is ask
for a quaker.

 Pentax K20D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
 ISO 200, 1/125 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00202.htm

 Comments welcome

Nice, i like the way the back lighting plays here.

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Re: PESO - Glow

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
I like the shot and crop. Good detail in most of the pedals except the
bit at the bottom.

Dave

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 Ok, I walked right into this one...sheesh!

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00021.htm


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RE: PESO - Late Easter

2010-04-27 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Dayton

I feel like I am just a little late - they seem like what would be
tucked in an easter basket.  I was tipped off from someone along a
walk about some ducklings hidden in the reeds.

Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 250mm
ISO 800, 1/800 sec @ f/8, handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00179.htm

Comments welcome


Somebody got baby ducks for easter, and when they started growing dumped 
'em at the local pond. There's a couple just about the same age out at 
Shelley Lake here in Raleigh. They usually only last a year or so.


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Re: PESO: Red Wing BBird

2010-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dave for accommodating my request.=) 
I apparently see the same red of the tip as you, but simply a darkening as it 
moves gradually out of the light and toward the rear. A subtle distinction, I 
feel.

Jack

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 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing BBird
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 6:57 AM
 I use the iBook for most of my
 internet now, and the screen is running
 as it did out of the box, so how ever that is set up.
 
 The tip of the red spot is bright red, but as it goes
 towards the rear
 of the bird, it looks mauve ish.
 
 Dave
 
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Thanks, Dave! I'll take it as a compliment. (ooF
 always distracts me slightly, as well). I don't want to
 influence your thinking, but I had an off list person state
 the his monitor reproduces the red as less than a true blood
 red. How do you see it?
  Thanks much!
 
  Jack
 
  --- On Mon, 4/26/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PESO: Red Wing BBird
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 3:22 PM
  Nice. I'm always impressed with your
  55-300 shots. Lens seems very nice.
 
  Not sure if those fore ground OOF yellow bits as a
 bother
  or not.
  Can't decide so i guess thats a good thing,
 yes.:-)
 
  Dave
 
  On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   This AM I was driving along a country road
 lined with
  wild mustard and blooming thistles, when I noticed
 it was
  almost infested with Red Wing Black Birds.
   Lucky to run across it, but they are very
 skittish and
  the wind wasn't making it any easier.
   Caught a couple that will, at least, work for
 spring
  wallpaper.
   Love their song.
  
  
   Jack
  
   Comments?
  
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=494
  
   K20, da55~...@300mm, f/8, 1/4000, ISO 400,
 heavily
  cropped
  
  
  
  
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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What great publicity!  I am quite proud of this group, and especially
of the photographers whose work is included in the exhibit, but mostly
of Mark, Christine and all of those who worked so hard to make this
happen and to make it a success.  GREAT JOB!

Dan

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 http://tinyurl.com/3x7xw6g
 http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-19/1271958762140750.xmlstorylist=entertainment

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's not *completely* one of your pics. Look closely...

ROTFLMAO!


Ironically I just spotted it while going through in the afternoon
meander. I though 'holy shit I don't remember that bloody thing the
first time around, I've got to use my eyes better'.

Then started laughing, turning into hiccups.


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I would also like a tough little
carry-everywhere ps-type camera

Sure. MX, 35mm lens, film. Job done :-)

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen


On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:03 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Cotty wrote:


Book arrived this morning :)

Totally cool and just a bit special.

Quick flick-through: stunning.

Longer flick through: better.

Full sedated meander this afternoon.

Mark is getting too good at this lark - just a superb job. And the  
rest

of the team, thanks.

BTW, an honour to have one of my pics as the title page for the  
Quotations :))


It's not *completely* one of your pics. Look closely...


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's not *completely* one of your pics. Look closely...

Still giggling. I won't spoil the fun.

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty


 It's not *completely* one of your pics. Look closely...

Would that take a stern look?

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2

I gagged on my cup of tea just then.

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Re: PESO - Late Easter

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
Love it. Nice and bright and very sharp.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 I feel like I am just a little late - they seem like what would be
 tucked in an easter basket.  I was tipped off from someone along a
 walk about some ducklings hidden in the reeds.

 Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 250mm
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 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00179.htm

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 10:34 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 27/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2
 

I gagged on my cup of tea just then.
   


What, you've never heard of a hachentosh before?


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 10:32, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

Would that take a stern look?

 I must bow to your knowledge.

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.


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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 10:32, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

Would that take a stern look?

 I must bow to your knowledge.

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.

Don't have too much, lest you keel over.

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Re: PESO - Late Easter

2010-04-27 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:01:09PM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 I feel like I am just a little late - they seem like what would be
 tucked in an easter basket.  I was tipped off from someone along a
 walk about some ducklings hidden in the reeds.
 
 Pentax K20D, Sigma 100-300/4 EX @ 250mm
 ISO 800, 1/800 sec @ f/8, handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00179.htm
 
 Comments welcome
 

Very cute shot.

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:26:41AM +0100, Cotty wrote:
 Book arrived this morning :)
 
 Totally cool and just a bit special.
 
 Quick flick-through: stunning.
 
 Longer flick through: better.
 
 Full sedated meander this afternoon.

I'm looking forward to the in-depth review of every shot like last year. :-)

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OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Today during my nonlinear dynamics lab, the Development Office sent
two people over to get video for a capital campaign DVD.
Interestingly, they used a Canon 5D.  They said that, as long as they
didn't need sound, the DSLRs were more than adequate.  I'm just
reporting not defending.  ;-)

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 10:51, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 10:32, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

Would that take a stern look?

 I must bow to your knowledge.

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.

 Don't have too much, lest you keel over.

Well I do have several bottles of it cos I bought it on sail.


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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters

Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

Just sayin.
CW



On 4/27/2010 11:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Today during my nonlinear dynamics lab, the Development Office sent
two people over to get video for a capital campaign DVD.
Interestingly, they used a Canon 5D.  They said that, as long as they
didn't need sound, the DSLRs were more than adequate.  I'm just
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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 11:42, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

 Just sayin.
 CW

 Maybe they were filming for Mime TV.

Just sayin...


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Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters
I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in 
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.

I just really like it a whole bunch.

Good Job dude.
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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters

I might have a bias...This is my office:
http://cwaters.smugmug.com/Other/Single-Shots/2793835_9yqag#333453567_nmtG6
CW


On 4/27/2010 11:44 AM, Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 11:42, Cory Waterscbwat...@bellsouth.net  wrote:

Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

Just sayin.
CW


  Maybe they were filming for Mime TV.

Just sayin...


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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Cory Waters wrote:

I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in 
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
I just really like it a whole bunch.

If you like it in the book the full-size print in the gallery show
will take your breath away.

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread CheekyGeek
DSLRs like the Canon 5D Mk II create seriously good video for the
money that can take advantage of interchangeable lenses. The two main
downsides are ergonomics and (as noted) sound. A second system is
required for good sound. The camera's rudimentary sound is left on to
provide a reference track for syncing the second system in post.

Those interested in reading more on the subject (which should apply to
Pentax video, as well):
http://jayshaffervideo.com/super-simple-second-system-sound-syncing-for-hdslrs/
Zoom H4n: 
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-Handy-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B001QWBM62

I believe that a fullframe camera that does video + an inexpensive
second sound system provides tremendous bang for the buck for todays
videographer.
As an aside, if Pentax comes out with a 645Dv (with video
capabilities) they won't be able to build them fast enough. That kind
of dynamic range combined with that many pixels would make a budding
Francis Ford Coppola soil themselves.

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Remember the application.  They only want footage, over which they
will dub a voice over and/or music.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

 Just sayin.
 CW



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 didn't need sound, the DSLRs were more than adequate.  I'm just
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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

Tell that to Douglas Fairbanks, (never mind, he's dead).

On 4/27/2010 11:42 AM, Cory Waters wrote:

Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

Just sayin.
CW



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Today during my nonlinear dynamics lab, the Development Office sent
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
I just really like it a whole bunch.

The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't pick
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others. Sigh.

It's really inspiring, especially the landscapes.

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

Couldn't put it better :)

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/27/2010 8:49 AM, Cory Waters wrote:

I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
I just really like it a whole bunch.


I left my copy at home today, otherwise I'd probably spend all day 
leafing through it again, and again.  Or it'd get all torn up as I show 
it off to anyone who'd sit still long enough for me to corner them.


There are a few photos that seem to catch my eye each time. But I 
suspect that if/when I go back and look at it again a few months, or 
years, down the line, different photos will catch my eye.


I'm also very impressed by the job Mark did at pairing the photos, 
either artistically or thematically. One juxtaposition that I don't know 
if it was deliberate, is that there is a blonde in the background of 
Love  Life on the T (p49) that looks a lot like the one in 
Exhaustion on p51.


Is it just my copy, or is the sensor noise on my Pigeon Point lighthouse 
photo (p. 74) particularly pronounced?




Good Job dude.


Not Good, Amazing.


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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/27/2010 4:48 AM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:

Is anyone seriously investigating this? Seems like a cool idea (if we
can get an Internet connection at the gallery). I have a Lenovo laptop
running Windows 7 and a Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 and both
have teleconferencing cameras. If someone wants to have a go just tell
me which one I should bring.

   
Along those lines, there was discussion of a gallery of the photos that 
didn't make it into the book.  I'd love to see those presented as a 
slide show.


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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
DSLR's have their place now in filmmaking (yes I know it's not film, but
programme-makers still affectionately refer to the process as
filmmaking, including this one) it is true - but there are limitations.
If you're reading this thread then you will also find this article
interesting:

http://philipbloom.co.uk/2010/04/19/in-depth-interview-with-executive-
producer-and-director-of-house-season-finale-shot-on-canon-5dmkii/

http://tinyurl.com/housefinalbloom

I have no desire to rush out yet and buy a DSLR in the process of
filming for TV. I have 2 cameras - a big shoulder-mount Sony DVCam and a
small HD handheld. The problem with handheld filming is mass - the small
cameras don't have the weight in them to steady things down. Not talking
about image stabilisation or anything, just 'steadiness' of handheld
shots, even zoomed out at wide angles. A weighty shoulder mount camera
provides an extremely stable platform for handheld shooting. A small
camera does not, and the movements can be jerky and nauseating as a result.

Even on a tripod, a small camera does not cut it. A big camera weighing
20+ lbs will pan beautifully with a nice fluid head, and ride up and
stop on a dime. A small camera will not. Next time you see a nature film
with a panning landscape shot, watch how the operator slows the camera
at the end of the pan until it just gently comes to a stop - rather than
an abrupt jerky bump. A bit like stopping a car - you let up on the
brake just before you stop other wise everyone jerks forward. That's
skill, yes - but even a seasoned operator can have trouble getting that
smoothness with a small camera even on a fluid head tripod. It's very
difficult, even for me (!) but all these youngsters running around now
with small cameras and DSLRs - they're all trying to do it and boy it
makes me cringe when I see most efforts.

Don't get me wrong - DSLRs and small handhelds have their place. I love
shooting fly-on-the-wall with my small camera - it's unobtrusive and
lightweight, I've got 2 mic inputs so can place a radio mic on a subject
and get ambient with the on-board mic. Great fun and I love it. But if
you're out getting nature, sport, documentary footage and so on, a big
camera is a must.

That said, DSLRs are there and there is now a growing aftermarket for
balanced sound input/outputs, viewfinder add-ons, matte-boxes and so on.
Very exciting to see where it goes. If it means more people get
interested in video and start making programmes, I'm all for it. The one
thing to watch though is that making a programme, fact or fiction, is
all about telling a story.  Great cameras make great shots, but great
storytellers make great films.

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GESO: 2009 Favorites

2010-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here are my personal favorites for 2009.
One made it to the Annual book.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#
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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, Christian Skofteland, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm looking forward to the in-depth review of every shot like last year. :-)

Don't hold your breath - my workload from tomorrow is non-stop!

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty

Would that take a stern look?

 I must bow to your knowledge.

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.

 Don't have too much, lest you keel over.

Well I do have several bottles of it cos I bought it on sail.

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 1:03 PM, Cotty wrote:
   

Would that take a stern look?
 

I must bow to your knowledge.
   

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.
 

Don't have too much, lest you keel over.
   

Well I do have several bottles of it cos I bought it on sail.
 

I feel I mast leave it alone now.


   

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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/27/2010 10:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 4/27/2010 1:03 PM, Cotty wrote:

Would that take a stern look?

I must bow to your knowledge.

And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.

Don't have too much, lest you keel over.

Well I do have several bottles of it cos I bought it on sail.

I feel I mast leave it alone now.



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Now you're getting a little dinghy.

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 27/4/10, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've been through the book four or five times now and so far the best in
show for me is probably Lee Creek Dam by Moonlight from Ted Beilby.
I just really like it a whole bunch.

 The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't pick
 one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
 others. Sigh.

 It's really inspiring, especially the landscapes.

I'm going to contribute every year whether you like it or not.;-)

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Re: GESO: 2009 Favorites

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/27/2010 10:03 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Here are my personal favorites for 2009.
One made it to the Annual book.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#
Regards,  Bob S.


They're all excellent.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#5436368462421376322

Is particularly noteworthy for having caught the baby birds (egrets?) 
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Re: GESO: 2009 Favorites

2010-04-27 Thread David J Brooks
Great set Bob.

This one i like a lot.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#5436368511581107762

Dave

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Re: OT: DSLR Video

2010-04-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
I joke about this only being a development DVD but they are trying to
raise a quarter billion USD.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 27/4/10, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sound without video is radio.  Video without sound is broken.

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Miserere
On 27 April 2010 12:36, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't pick
 one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
 others. Sigh.

Jostein's Penguins burned (and dodged) themselves in my mind. I won't
say it's the best photo in the book, as I'm not sure there is *a* best
photo, but for me it's the most memorable.

And after a week of waiting, Blurb still hasn't shipped my books. I
want to take mine to Chicago to get signedalong with the other 40
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/4/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm going to contribute every year whether you like it or not.;-)

Dave, please do - I love your frozen gate!

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K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters
Is it just me or is there like no buzz about any forthcoming replacement 
for the K-7?  It just seems that there's been a new camera on the 
horizon about this time the last few years.  They've been churning out 
the PS cameras pretty quickly lately and there are these colorful KX 
bodies.. maybe they figured to let the K-7 simmer a while.
Problem is, what am I supposed to obsess about?  I still want a K-7 to 
replace my K10 but certainly most who would buy one have one already and 
the new body should be here to kick-start the obsessions again...

Ah, well... back to computer stuff.
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters
My book is re-boxed to go back. (iprinting problems on three pages)  I 
wonder if there will be a replacement in my hands before next weekend...


On 4/27/2010 1:35 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 12:36, Cottycotty...@mac.com  wrote:


The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't pick
one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
others. Sigh.


Jostein's Penguins burned (and dodged) themselves in my mind. I won't
say it's the best photo in the book, as I'm not sure there is *a* best
photo, but for me it's the most memorable.

And after a week of waiting, Blurb still hasn't shipped my books. I
want to take mine to Chicago to get signedalong with the other 40
fools wanting the same  :-)


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Cory Waters wrote:

Is it just me or is there like no buzz about any forthcoming replacement 
for the K-7?  It just seems that there's been a new camera on the 
horizon about this time the last few years.  They've been churning out 
the PS cameras pretty quickly lately and there are these colorful KX 
bodies.. maybe they figured to let the K-7 simmer a while.
Problem is, what am I supposed to obsess about?  I still want a K-7 to 
replace my K10 but certainly most who would buy one have one already and 
the new body should be here to kick-start the obsessions again...
Ah, well... back to computer stuff.

Seems like ages, but the K7 has been out for less than a year at this
point. The one we saw at GFM last June was pre-production. I think
they hit the market in July. So perhaps we'll hear about a replacement
in the fall if they're following 18-month development cycles.

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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

is iPrinting an Apple product?

On 4/27/2010 1:43 PM, Cory Waters wrote:
My book is re-boxed to go back. (iprinting problems on three pages)  I 
wonder if there will be a replacement in my hands before next weekend...


On 4/27/2010 1:35 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 12:36, Cottycotty...@mac.com  wrote:


The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't 
pick

one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
others. Sigh.


Jostein's Penguins burned (and dodged) themselves in my mind. I won't
say it's the best photo in the book, as I'm not sure there is *a* best
photo, but for me it's the most memorable.

And after a week of waiting, Blurb still hasn't shipped my books. I
want to take mine to Chicago to get signedalong with the other 40
fools wanting the same  :-)


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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread Cory Waters

i suppose it could be. But this time it's a typo.

On 4/27/2010 1:48 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

is iPrinting an Apple product?

On 4/27/2010 1:43 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

My book is re-boxed to go back. (iprinting problems on three pages) I
wonder if there will be a replacement in my hands before next weekend...

On 4/27/2010 1:35 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 12:36, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:


The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't
pick
one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
others. Sigh.


Jostein's Penguins burned (and dodged) themselves in my mind. I won't
say it's the best photo in the book, as I'm not sure there is *a* best
photo, but for me it's the most memorable.

And after a week of waiting, Blurb still hasn't shipped my books. I
want to take mine to Chicago to get signedalong with the other 40
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Re: Woot

2010-04-27 Thread Cotty

 Would that take a stern look?
 I must bow to your knowledge.
 And I raise my glass of port and toast the both of you.
 Don't have too much, lest you keel over.
 Well I do have several bottles of it cos I bought it on sail.
 I feel I mast leave it alone now.


 It's not an either oar situation

Now you're getting a little dinghy.

Don't make me luff!


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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

shucks, I thought apple had discovered another profit center.

On 4/27/2010 1:48 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

i suppose it could be. But this time it's a typo.

On 4/27/2010 1:48 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

is iPrinting an Apple product?

On 4/27/2010 1:43 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

My book is re-boxed to go back. (iprinting problems on three pages) I
wonder if there will be a replacement in my hands before next 
weekend...


On 4/27/2010 1:35 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 27 April 2010 12:36, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:


The trouble is, they're all on the same level of excellence - can't
pick
one like you can. Jostein's penguin pic comes close, but then so do 6
others. Sigh.


Jostein's Penguins burned (and dodged) themselves in my mind. I won't
say it's the best photo in the book, as I'm not sure there is *a* best
photo, but for me it's the most memorable.

And after a week of waiting, Blurb still hasn't shipped my books. I
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Re: Who knows where pdmlers will show up

2010-04-27 Thread Tim Bray
Here's the link to what I wrote, as opposed to what the ValleyWag scum
wrote: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/12/Google-Vignettes

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 AT dinner tonight I grabbed a copy of this weeks metro, and the first thing
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 http://www.sv411.com/index.php/2010/04/life-inside-the-googleplex/

 Not  quite as surreal as when I was in Vancouver BC and the weekly
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Re: GESO: 2009 Favorites

2010-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Larry and Dave too!
I always get Egrets and Herons confused, but this one has the green
coloring at the eye.
And Dave, I thought the fall leaves looked a bit more inviting with
the gentleman walking in.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Here are my personal favorites for 2009.
 One made it to the Annual book.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#
 Regards,  Bob S.

 They're all excellent.
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/PDML2009#5436368462421376322

 Is particularly noteworthy for having caught the baby birds (egrets?) with
 their mother.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 1:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Cory Waters wrote:

   

Is it just me or is there like no buzz about any forthcoming replacement
for the K-7?  It just seems that there's been a new camera on the
horizon about this time the last few years.  They've been churning out
the PS cameras pretty quickly lately and there are these colorful KX
bodies.. maybe they figured to let the K-7 simmer a while.
Problem is, what am I supposed to obsess about?  I still want a K-7 to
replace my K10 but certainly most who would buy one have one already and
the new body should be here to kick-start the obsessions again...
Ah, well... back to computer stuff.
 

Seems like ages, but the K7 has been out for less than a year at this
point. The one we saw at GFM last June was pre-production. I think
they hit the market in July. So perhaps we'll hear about a replacement
in the fall if they're following 18-month development cycles.

   
There were rumors about something just after the 645D anouncement, but 
they seem to have damped out.  I expect that's because unless Pentax 
goes to a ~24x36mm sensor, there's not much more except bells and 
whistles that can be added to the K-7, (well better high ISO performance 
or more Megapixels but that seems to come at a cost in detail resolution 
if you do both).  I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to 
match or exceed the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.


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Re: Who knows where pdmlers will show up

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

It sounds like hell...

On 4/27/2010 2:12 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

Here's the link to what I wrote, as opposed to what the ValleyWag scum
wrote: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/12/Google-Vignettes

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:
   

AT dinner tonight I grabbed a copy of this weeks metro, and the first thing
I read was this piece about some guy named Tim Bray:

http://www.sv411.com/index.php/2010/04/life-inside-the-googleplex/

Not  quite as surreal as when I was in Vancouver BC and the weekly
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Colen

On 4/27/2010 11:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:




There were rumors about something just after the 645D anouncement, but
they seem to have damped out. I expect that's because unless Pentax goes
to a ~24x36mm sensor, there's not much more except bells and whistles
that can be added to the K-7, (well better high ISO performance or more
Megapixels but that seems to come at a cost in detail resolution if you
do both). I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to match or
exceed the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.



They could produce the K7 in a variety of colors.  :)

Someone once pointed out that Pentax seems to alternate usability and 
performance updates (one might argue on the term upgrade with any 
particular usability feature).


I doubt that the form factor will change from the K7.  It's something 
that too many people like.


At the moment, they're selling a lot of K-xen because of the high-ISO 
performance. They could see that as sabotaging K7 sales, or they could 
assume that while people won't buy a bottom end camera after buying the 
high end camera, if they sell as may K-xen as they can, then people are 
more likely to get the high end body sooner afterwards. So they can 
delay the K7 replacement for a while longer, sell more K-xen and have 
more time to spend on development of performance boosts for the K-x. 
However, I doubt that they think that strategically.


Another question is whether they'll go for incremental improvements in 
areas like autofocus, or if they are ever going to just start over with 
a fresh design and look for a huge improvement.


The alternative is that Pentax could be devoting all of their 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling

Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?


I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to 
match or exceed the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.




They could try to join the AF race, but that also seems rather unlikely.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 4/27/2010 11:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:




There were rumors about something just after the 645D anouncement, but
they seem to have damped out. I expect that's because unless Pentax goes
to a ~24x36mm sensor, there's not much more except bells and whistles
that can be added to the K-7, (well better high ISO performance or more
Megapixels but that seems to come at a cost in detail resolution if you
do both). I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to match or
exceed the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.



They could produce the K7 in a variety of colors.  :)

Someone once pointed out that Pentax seems to alternate usability and 
performance updates (one might argue on the term upgrade with any 
particular usability feature).


I doubt that the form factor will change from the K7.  It's something 
that too many people like.


At the moment, they're selling a lot of K-xen because of the high-ISO 
performance. They could see that as sabotaging K7 sales, or they could 
assume that while people won't buy a bottom end camera after buying 
the high end camera, if they sell as may K-xen as they can, then 
people are more likely to get the high end body sooner afterwards. So 
they can delay the K7 replacement for a while longer, sell more K-xen 
and have more time to spend on development of performance boosts for 
the K-x. However, I doubt that they think that strategically.


Another question is whether they'll go for incremental improvements in 
areas like autofocus, or if they are ever going to just start over 
with a fresh design and look for a huge improvement.


The alternative is that Pentax could be devoting all of their 
engineering resources to the 645D series.



Well, there could be a K-7n which wouldn't be a whole new camera but one 
just one upgrade,  I think the ZX-5n was introduced just about 6 or 7 
months after the ZX5, and it's only real improvement was a DOF lever.  A 
major improvement in my opinion.  However the K-7 and 645D seem to share 
their user interface in large part so I expect that firmware and 
internal system boards are mostly interchangeable.  In fact if it were 
me, only the imaging subsystems and body shells would be different.  It 
would save a lot on the manufacturing costs of the 645D if almost 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 2:45 PM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?


I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to match or exceed 
the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.




They could try to join the AF race, but that also seems rather unlikely.

William Robb

FPS would probably be easier to implement than AF changes, the hardware 
changes there are much more straight forward and almost no software 
changes would be needed.  AF would requre a major processor upgrade and 
most likely completely new firmware.  Expect it in the K-(damn I can't 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 FPS would probably be easier to implement than AF changes, the hardware
 changes there are much more straight forward and almost no software changes
 would be needed.  AF would requre a major processor upgrade and most likely
 completely new firmware.  Expect it in the K-(damn I can't use x for the
 unknown any more), in a year or two.or three or...

What would be the benefit though of higher FPS w/o better AF?

More out of focus images per second? Or still the same frame rate in focus?

Cheers
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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 2:55 PM, eckinator wrote:

2010/4/27 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
   
   

FPS would probably be easier to implement than AF changes, the hardware
changes there are much more straight forward and almost no software changes
would be needed.  AF would requre a major processor upgrade and most likely
completely new firmware.  Expect it in the K-(damn I can't use x for the
unknown any more), in a year or two.or three or...
 

What would be the benefit though of higher FPS w/o better AF?

More out of focus images per second? Or still the same frame rate in focus?

Cheers
Ecke
   

I believe in OOF images, and it would double franks production.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I expect that's because unless Pentax 
 goes to a ~24x36mm sensor, there's not much more except bells and 
 whistles that can be added to the K-7...

I still see room for solid, no-frills improvement.

Most importantly, they should scrap this miserable Samsung sensor and
fit the successor to the K-7 with a decent Sony sensor to put an end to
this grotesque situation where the picture quality - in terms of noise
and dynamic range - of their top-of-the-line model is largely inferior
to their current entry-level camera.

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OT -- Aw Cute.

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

The worlds smallest horse...

http://tinyurl.com/2fhapgb


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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread CheekyGeek
I'm expecting an incremental upgrade also.
Call it the K7i for implementing what they learned with the K-x
processor/software for high-ISO handling.

I'd also love to see a K200d equiv. with K-x innards (bigger size in
your hand, and keep the weather seals, AF-focus LED in finder, plug
for intervalometer, live view, video, etc.). That would fit between
the flagship and the K-x.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
I would expect the 645D electronics in a K-7n after the release of the 645D.
They will have done some tweaks to the K-7 electronics in the 645D,
and they'll bring them back to the K-7 as a K-7n.
My 2 cents...  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:50 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/27/2010 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 On 4/27/2010 11:04 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:


 There were rumors about something just after the 645D anouncement, but
 they seem to have damped out. I expect that's because unless Pentax goes
 to a ~24x36mm sensor, there's not much more except bells and whistles
 that can be added to the K-7, (well better high ISO performance or more
 Megapixels but that seems to come at a cost in detail resolution if you
 do both). I suppose Pentax could join the FPS race and try to match or
 exceed the D300 and 7D but that seems unlikely as well.


 They could produce the K7 in a variety of colors.  :)

 Someone once pointed out that Pentax seems to alternate usability and
 performance updates (one might argue on the term upgrade with any particular
 usability feature).

 I doubt that the form factor will change from the K7.  It's something that
 too many people like.

 At the moment, they're selling a lot of K-xen because of the high-ISO
 performance. They could see that as sabotaging K7 sales, or they could
 assume that while people won't buy a bottom end camera after buying the high
 end camera, if they sell as may K-xen as they can, then people are more
 likely to get the high end body sooner afterwards. So they can delay the K7
 replacement for a while longer, sell more K-xen and have more time to spend
 on development of performance boosts for the K-x. However, I doubt that they
 think that strategically.

 Another question is whether they'll go for incremental improvements in
 areas like autofocus, or if they are ever going to just start over with a
 fresh design and look for a huge improvement.

 The alternative is that Pentax could be devoting all of their engineering
 resources to the 645D series.


 Well, there could be a K-7n which wouldn't be a whole new camera but one
 just one upgrade,  I think the ZX-5n was introduced just about 6 or 7 months
 after the ZX5, and it's only real improvement was a DOF lever.  A major
 improvement in my opinion.  However the K-7 and 645D seem to share their
 user interface in large part so I expect that firmware and internal system
 boards are mostly interchangeable.  In fact if it were me, only the imaging
 subsystems and body shells would be different.  It would save a lot on the
 manufacturing costs of the 645D if almost everything, not image and lens
 mount related, was shared with the K-7.

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Re: OT -- Aw Cute.

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 The worlds smallest horse...

 http://tinyurl.com/2fhapgb

Positively cute but in a sad way. Humans at their sorry best...

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Re: PESO - Glow

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/27 Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com:
 I have mixed feelings about this one.  Thoughts anyone?

Very well executed but somehow doesn't ring my bell. Have you tried BW?
Cheers
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GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

2010-04-27 Thread AlunFoto
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20

Specials for me:
The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
DA 10-17 fisheye.
In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
satisfaction.

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Re: OT -- Aw Cute.

2010-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/27/2010 3:16 PM, eckinator wrote:

2010/4/27 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
   

The worlds smallest horse...

http://tinyurl.com/2fhapgb
 

Positively cute but in a sad way. Humans at their sorry best...

   

It's a seeing eye horse, and no, I'm not making that up.

http://www.guidehorse.org/

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