Re: FS Friday: Assorted Lenses

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/14/2010 4:35 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/14/2010 12:39 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
So clearly nobody's jumping on these (sigh) but I guess it wouldn't 
hurt to ask: Do my prices seem out of line?


I'm more than a little interested in the Viv Series 1.  Unfortunately, 
my finances are stretched a bit to thin right now, and I'm not sure 
when I'd need/use it.


Go for it Larry, I've got three different 70-210's and you can't have 
too many.  (I already have a copy of that particular lens and I don't 
know why Charles isn't using it much, but it's well worth having.  I 
think he's asking a very reasonable price for it as well).






On May 14, 2010, at 6:34, Charles Robinson wrote:

I've got stuff here I never use, and a short way to go to top off my 
"K7 Fund" so let's try this:


Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f2.8-4.0 Macro zoom - $75
- This is a manual-focus, push-pull zoom with a variable aperture 
from 2.8 to 4.0.  62mm filter ring, serial number 28426239.  It is 
an A-Series lens so you can set the aperture from the body.  A 
"Version 3" lens if you check out Mark Robert's detailed page on 
this series of lenses here: http://www.robertstech.com/vivitar.htm


Zenitar 16mm f2.8 fisheye - $100
- K-mount, "m-series compatible" lens.  With original front and rear 
caps.  I've had this for over 15 years, but it's been almost 2 years 
since I've taken a picture with it.  The original pouch and extra 
rear-mount filters are floating around in the house somewhere and I 
will dig for them if anyone expresses an interest in this!


Pentax-A 1:1.7 50mm lens - $80
- Clean front and rear elements, no dust/fungus etc.  I have the F 
version of this lens already so this just never gets used.


Pentax-A 1:4 35-70mm Macro zoom lens - $40
- Funky lightweight constant-aperture zoom lens.  Ever since I got 
my Tamron 90mm macro, this never gets taken out of the box.  There's 
a slight ding on the filter mounting ring but I don't have any 58mm 
filters to try mounting on it so I can't tell you if it affects the 
usage.  Can send a detailed photo if you are concerned.  Lens info 
here: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/zooms/medium/A35-70f4.html


Sigma 70-210mm UC-II f4-5.6 autofocus zoom - $25
- When you just have to have a zoom.

All prices are plus actual shipping costs.  I prefer to sell just to 
the U.S. but I'm not stuck on that.  Drop me a line if you have any 
questions/comments, etc.


-Charles

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Re: Defection and Bargain

[Larry Colen]

On May 10, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Cotty wrote:




Meanwhile, I filmed at an important local football match last week and
he tagged along with the *ist Ds, and although he wasn;t allowed  
pitch-

side until the end (had to stick with me, it was 'busy') he picked off
some impressive shots - 10 of which can be seen here:



My wife thinks she is a reasonable photographer, and when she looked  
at

the pics she swore like I haven't heard in quite a few years!


Judging by Stef's photos, your wife must be one hell of a good  
photographer.


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Re: PESO-Clementine Rainbow

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:14:58PM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Lake Clementine just above the city of Auburn California.  Spring
> runoff makes for a nice scene.
> 
> Pentax K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 26mm
> ISO 100, 1/160 sec @ f/16, Tripod
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00373-1.htm
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
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Very pretty.  Nicely captured.

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Re: PESO - Gold

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/13/2010 5:31 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

   

If you love flower/cat/puppy/sunset photography, then by golly do it,
Doug
 

That would be one hell of a bracket shot.

Dave
   


and be sure to forward a copy to Mike Johnston at TOP, he'll appreciate 
the thought.




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Re: GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond - this time with a url!

[Christian Skofteland]

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 09:14:14PM -0400, frank theriault wrote:
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/saturday-evening-at-pond.html
> 
> Oops...
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

You are NOT allowed to shoot nature or in color.  got it? GOOD.  That's my 
genre.  I don't shoot B&W street scenes, so you don't shoot birds and mamals.  
It's just the way the world is supposed to work! :-)

Nice grabs, frank.

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Re: Go away for a week and get 1700+ messages

[Christian Skofteland]

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 05:22:34PM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
> A new PDML motto.

Yeah well it was a slow week.  Sorry we didn't have the normal load but nothing 
interesting has ben happening lately.

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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

[Christian Skofteland]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 04:44:31PM -0600, Tom C wrote:
> I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
> have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
> song.
> 
> The trip to Chicago last weekend, in addition to being a ton of fun,
> unexpectedly yielded my first shot for the collection.
> 
> We were at the 'The Bean'. I saw it happen in the viewfinder, though
> imperfect, and waited for what seemed like an eternity for the
> elements to come together as I imagined.
> 
> But finally:  "Free as a Bird"
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691&size=lg
> 
> Tom C.
> 

Very, VERY COOL!

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Re: PESO - Early Morning Run

[Sasha Sobol]

Nice one!
I love the softness, deep blacks and the overall mood.

--Sasha

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:59 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> That's very nice but so untheriaultian...
>
> Who are you and what have you done with Frank?
>
> On 5/8/2010 10:56 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> I took my advice, inspired as I was by looking at the Chicago Dankhaus
>> Gallery this morning, and went out to shoot some.  Down at the lake, I
>> took tons of shots.
>>
>> While I'm off doing a little gallery of my morning stroll, here's one
>> that I think might be a keeper:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-morning-jog.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
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Re: GESO - Chicago exhibit by Karin

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/11/2010 4:00 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Bob Sullivan wrote:

Chris,
Tell Karin she did good!
I especially like the shot of Doug Brewer.
He doesn't like to pose for photos,
but that one is a good capture of his soul.
Regards,  Bob S.


Silly Bob. I have no soul.


That explains the lack of catch lights in the eyes...

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Re: Augenblick: Some shots and a controversial opinion

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/11/2010 2:27 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 10/5/10, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

Here are a few that I particularly regret not having seen lovingly
rendered on those walls:

"Help" - AnnSan - intensity and grace
"Surf Club" - P.J. Alling - the exposition of space is pure poetry
"Holy Water" - Pasvorn Boonmark - a totally astounding picture; I keep
going back to look again
"Rowboats, Padstow" - Cotty - an uncluttered hymn to curvature
"Tree in Field" - Steven Sharpe - it's a haiku
"Piano Player" - Dario Bonazza - almost too intense to look at,
illustration by subtraction
"Ratlines and Rigging" - Paul Sorenson - infinite detail at perfect rest
"Deputy" - John Andrew Celio - what a face
 

Thats very kind Tim, but I declined to offer my shot to the show for the
simple reason of cost.
   


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Re: PESO-Clementine Rainbow

[Bruce Dayton]

Well, unfortunately, since I replace a machine in the past year put
me on to Vista and then Windows 7.  My calibration system was the
original Colorvision Spyder - and it was discontinued and is not
supported on Vista or Win7.  So in short, I am running by eye
calibration right now.  Calibration is on my list but there are
several things ahead of it in priority.

I have viewed the image on about 5 different systems/monitors and
have not noticed it to be darker than I intended.  So far no one else
has commented on this being dark (of course, not that large of a
group  have commented).  Perhaps others will chime in.

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Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:51:59 PM, you wrote:

RS> On 16/05/2010, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
>> Lake Clementine just above the city of Auburn California.  Spring
>> runoff makes for a nice scene.
>>
>> Pentax K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 26mm
>> ISO 100, 1/160 sec @ f/16, Tripod
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00373-1.htm

RS> Hi Bruce,

RS> Nice shot but again it's very dark on my monitor, what white luminance
RS> value is your monitor calibrated to?

RS> Cheers,

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Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/13/2010 12:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark Roberts

Tom C wrote:


>I think Doug has valid points even though I was not impressed with the
>bulk of Eggleston's work on display last weekend.
>
>I bow to his knowledge on the subject because he no doubt has a far
>vaster knowledge of photographic history than I do.
>
>And in the end, even discussing the subject has made me think, which I
>believe was Doug's intent (or maybe he just likes me better after
>having met me in person). LOL.


Tom, perhaps what's bugging you about Eggleston's work subconsciously
is that same thing that bugs me consciously about it. I'm not an
Eggleston hater - quite the contrary, I find I have a greater
appreciation for his work after seeing it in person and in a large
collection. I see some pretty good ideas at play and some pretty good
work resulting. What annoys me is the over-glorification of Eggleston
by the art world. It's as if, after years of dismissing color
photography, when the art snobs found one color photographer they
liked they overreacted to the point of near-deification, compensating
for past oversights by heaping excessive praise on work that didn't
deserve it.

In short, I think his work does deserve praise, but not the ridiculous
adulation it's received from some quarters.


Change that to "overreacted to the point of near-defecation" an I 
think you've hit the nail on the head.



What a waste.

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Re: phone test

[P. J. Alling]

Um, well, no.

On 5/12/2010 11:09 PM, cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

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Re: PESO - Early Morning Run

[P. J. Alling]

That's very nice but so untheriaultian...

Who are you and what have you done with Frank?

On 5/8/2010 10:56 AM, frank theriault wrote:

I took my advice, inspired as I was by looking at the Chicago Dankhaus
Gallery this morning, and went out to shoot some.  Down at the lake, I
took tons of shots.

While I'm off doing a little gallery of my morning stroll, here's one
that I think might be a keeper:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/early-morning-jog.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?

[P. J. Alling]

$200-$300 on ebay.  KEH seems to sell them for between $300 and $400.

On 5/6/2010 5:43 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

I'm about to have enough in my camera fund to pop for a K7.

Yes, I know there are rumors of something newer over the horizon, but that will 
take longer than I care to wait, will cost more than I have saved up, and the 
K-7 right now is at $843 at BHPhotovideo which is a pretty damned good price.

The question is: Is there any resale value to the K10D?  I'd thought about handing it 
down to my wife who would like occasionally to learn how to use a "real" 
camera, but I hesitate to give her the K10D for the same reasons that I want to replace 
it, namely: unpredictable/slow autofocus and exposure which can be all over the map.

On the other hand, if it wouldn't generate more than a couple hundred in 
resale, then there really isn't much point in trying to sell it, is there?

What do you all think?

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Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago

[P. J. Alling]

I suggest bleach.

On 5/10/2010 5:47 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Tom,
TMI (Too Much Information)
How am I'm gonna wash that image out of my mind!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Tom C  wrote:
   

I never knew Bill slept in the RAW.  He told me he gets better
pictures that way.  I'd have expected footed long johns, with him
being from Canada and that. Of course it might have felt like a
heatwave to him down south in Chicago - or maybe it's something
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Re: Used glass

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/16/2010 7:17 PM, Bob W wrote:

A good lens is like syphilis - you get it from your friends.

Bob


Gee, that was aimed right and square at the next PDML annual...

Boris

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Re: Defection and Bargain

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/11/2010 12:35 AM, Cotty wrote:

My wife thinks she is a reasonable photographer, and when she looked at
the pics she swore like I haven't heard in quite a few years!


My regards to Stef and your wife. Please pass young mister Cotty that he 
sure got it right ;-).


Boris

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/17/2010 1:31 AM, Cotty wrote:

HTH Boris and take it all with a pinch of salt. You know that you should
make things just for yourself and if someone else likes it also, too bad ;-)


Thanks, Cotty. No, it was rather very helpful. I quite liked the idea of 
that web site that you mentioned. Is it in any way international? Or do 
I have to be living in GB to be able to buy stuff from them???


On the other part of your message... It is pretty interesting thought, 
that did not occur to me before I read your message. Consider this. 
Music can either accompany pictures (pictures are primary, music is 
secondary) or pictures can illustrate music (music is primary, pictures 
are secondary). I tried to go for the first, but you say that music (in 
your specific case, of course) detracts from the pictures... Fascinating...


Boris

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/16/2010 7:53 PM, John Francis wrote:


Ah, but which version?  The original, or the ELP concept album?


Not a clue...

Boris

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

[Boris Liberman]

Tempora-sure-ly ;-). And by the way, I happen to have met you in person, 
should you by any chance have forgotten...


:-)

On 5/17/2010 1:33 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 16/5/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:


Since I did not license the music properly, I will have to delete this
slideshow from my web site, which I will do probably towards the end
of the next week.


So you won't mind me nabbing some of your pics for advertising use for a
few days then?

;-)


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Re: Defection and Bargain

[P. J. Alling]

Not only do I have to hate half of the list, now I have to hate a KID!

On 5/10/2010 5:35 PM, Cotty wrote:

Well, some you win, some you lose.

My son Stef (who some met at GFM last year) is getting more and more
into photography, and will be studying it at 'A' Level in the autumn
[effectively high school here] over 2 years. He's been using the *ist Ds
for lots of projects but before he starts his course he has decided that
he wants to go the Canon route - can't think why!!

When he did work experience last summer with a local paper they had
Nikon and Canon gear, and well, he's decided. So we've been looking out
for an original 1D on eekbay and they seem to be going for about 3 or
400 GBP here but we've hooked a bargain and nabbed one for 240, so he's
a happy bunny. It's the old old 4 MP version, the original but crucially
for him it will do 8fps, which is what he needs for sports photography.

Meanwhile, I filmed at an important local football match last week and
he tagged along with the *ist Ds, and although he wasn;t allowed pitch-
side until the end (had to stick with me, it was 'busy') he picked off
some impressive shots - 10 of which can be seen here:



My wife thinks she is a reasonable photographer, and when she looked at
the pics she swore like I haven't heard in quite a few years!

Sadly I don't have any Canon lenses so the hunt will be on for a wide
and tele-zooms now. Until then, looks like I'll have to replace the
Pentax mounts with Canon ones on the K15 and A*85/1.4

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Re: Back home and PDMLers GESO

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/16/2010 2:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On May 16, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 16/5/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Chicago is a fantastic place with a photo opportunity on every 
corner. And
yes, Karin and I thought the Eggleston exhibition was great (but the 
Matisse

was even better). Here are some pictures of some PDMLers.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDMLers/


Larry Doing What Larry Does :)  brilliant


Are you referring to the picture of me at the gallery with my pizza 
muscle on full display, the one of me drinking beer, or my attempt at 
a self portrait?


If it was the latter, I'm afraid that none of those turned out 
particularly well, I thought that the combination of the wide angle 
and the bean would be an interesting effect, but interesting doesn't 
always equate to "good":

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624063554420/


Aparently you're the man with a single face...

You can only try, sometimes it works, sometimes not.






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Re: Brought to you by Tom C

[Ann Sanfedele]

Awfully glad you quoted all of  Bill's post, below -- because the 
original  is in my lost email folder, so to speak.


P.j. - I'm pretty sure Bill  will drink anything, too :-)

ann


P. J. Alling wrote:


Dave, I'm pretty sure you'll drink to anything.

On 5/10/2010 5:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


I'll drink to that as well.

Dave

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:31 PM, paul 
stenquist  wrote:
  


Sounds like fun. Wish I could have been there.
I'll drink to the health of the PDML. And Doug.
Paul
On May 9, 2010, at 10:16 PM, William Robb wrote:




Ignore the last one. Friggin Microsoft.


Well, that was fun.
Even the plane rides were bearable.
Thanks to the generosity of Tom, I was given the very pleasurable
opportunity to visit Chicago this past weekend.
It happened that this weekend also coincided with the Chicago Celtic
Festival, so there was entertainment.
But especially, there was the gallery opening for the PDML Show.

So, I got to Chicago latish Thursday evening.
The escape from Canada flight was on was on a scale model of a very 
small

cattle car that had jet powered wings.
And, the buggers busted me for having too much toothpaste.
But, I had no seatmate, so it was all good.
The flight to Chicago was on a somewhat larger version of the same 
thing,
but my seatmate was a relatively small woman who was quite 
decorative and
friendly, and I had bought some 10 cent per ml Crest, so that was 
fine as

well.
When I debarked, Tom phoned and told me he was right outside.
The seatmate led me through the terminal and off she went, and a 
few moments

later I was in the passenger seat of Tom's Renta-A-Toyota.
After checking out our room on the 27th floor of the downtown 
Sheraton Posh

Hotel, we found a little bar and had a nice meal and drinks.
I believe we closed the place.
And then sat up until 4:00 catching up on stuff.
The very next morning after too few hours sleep, we went for a walk.
We found a very busy but efficient breakfast place called the West 
Egg Cafe

where we had a very nice breakfast.
And Tom, I think you have to admit it was the best breakfast we 
had, no

matter what you thought at the time.
And we found a very big lake.
And we found Navy Pier.
We found all sorts of cool stuff, and then we found Harry Carey's, 
and we

stopped for lunch.
I think we both had the Blackened Tenderloin.
It was quite wonderful, and washed down nicely with a nice ale.
And we walked some more, and then went back to the hotel.
It was a good day, and I would have been quite satisfied to call it a
success on many levels, but there was still more to come.
For this was the night of the PDML Show opening.
And off we went.
Finding a liquor vendor along the way was a good thing to do, so we 
laid in

a supply of whiskey and wine for laters, and to the gallery we went.
It was quite fun. I met a whole bunch of PDML members who also came 
to the

show, and I also got to meet Sue, the curator of the gallery.
The show is well worth seeing. I had seen all of the pictures on 
the web,
but nothing prepared me for the splendour that was hung on the 
walls of the

Scharpenberg Gallery.
We are an incredibly talented bunch of photographers, and I am 
proud to be a member of this community.
Talking about talented photographers, I coudn't believe that Ted 
actually talked to me.

I may not have given him any choice though.
But he still talked to me.
Actually, everyone was quite gracious.
Especially Tom.
After the show, Tom, Ann, Jay and myself went to a little Pizzeria 
that served what I believe was a Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza.
After that, a bottle of wine and a few hours of sleep, and we found 
ourselves in the Sheraton's food for exorbitant profit centre, and 
then off to the Chicago Art Institute and the William Eggleston 
Exhibit.

Gonzo Photography.
I suspect that he and Hunter Thompson smoked a few together.
And then some silly tourist photography, back to the gallery for a 
dose of Matisse, and supper with the whole gang at a place that 
Tom's Voodoo Device said was permanently closed.

After we were done with it.
But seriously, more good food, and I got to see Jostein's book from 
his trip to Penguinland.
More seriously good photography there, and then we were off to the 
park, where loud music was calling.

Apparently, we are too fucking old, because it chased us away.
But I digress.
Refreshing beverages were in order, but after making the mistake of 
trying to park closer to the bar, and having an epic fail with a 
parkade, Tom chickened out so we went back to the hotel.

Where we had a small but adequate stock of refreshing beverage.
And then, far too soon, this morning and off to the airport.

It was truly a pleasure to meet in person, more members of this 
community. Meeting Boris and Jostein was what I'll remember the 
most, simply because of the effort that they made to be there.

Seeing Ann again was truly a pleasure.
Cory, did you really say you couldn't believe you were shaking my 
hand?
By my count, 18 

Re: OT - Be Careful What You Write

[P. J. Alling]

So now hyperbole is a punishable offense.

On 5/11/2010 2:25 AM, Cotty wrote:



Big Brother is WATCHING!

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Re: Brought to you by Tom C

[P. J. Alling]

Dave, I'm pretty sure you'll drink to anything.

On 5/10/2010 5:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I'll drink to that as well.

Dave

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:31 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
   

Sounds like fun. Wish I could have been there.
I'll drink to the health of the PDML. And Doug.
Paul
On May 9, 2010, at 10:16 PM, William Robb wrote:

 

Ignore the last one. Friggin Microsoft.


Well, that was fun.
Even the plane rides were bearable.
Thanks to the generosity of Tom, I was given the very pleasurable
opportunity to visit Chicago this past weekend.
It happened that this weekend also coincided with the Chicago Celtic
Festival, so there was entertainment.
But especially, there was the gallery opening for the PDML Show.

So, I got to Chicago latish Thursday evening.
The escape from Canada flight was on was on a scale model of a very small
cattle car that had jet powered wings.
And, the buggers busted me for having too much toothpaste.
But, I had no seatmate, so it was all good.
The flight to Chicago was on a somewhat larger version of the same thing,
but my seatmate was a relatively small woman who was quite decorative and
friendly, and I had bought some 10 cent per ml Crest, so that was fine as
well.
When I debarked, Tom phoned and told me he was right outside.
The seatmate led me through the terminal and off she went, and a few moments
later I was in the passenger seat of Tom's Renta-A-Toyota.
After checking out our room on the 27th floor of the downtown Sheraton Posh
Hotel, we found a little bar and had a nice meal and drinks.
I believe we closed the place.
And then sat up until 4:00 catching up on stuff.
The very next morning after too few hours sleep, we went for a walk.
We found a very busy but efficient breakfast place called the West Egg Cafe
where we had a very nice breakfast.
And Tom, I think you have to admit it was the best breakfast we had, no
matter what you thought at the time.
And we found a very big lake.
And we found Navy Pier.
We found all sorts of cool stuff, and then we found Harry Carey's, and we
stopped for lunch.
I think we both had the Blackened Tenderloin.
It was quite wonderful, and washed down nicely with a nice ale.
And we walked some more, and then went back to the hotel.
It was a good day, and I would have been quite satisfied to call it a
success on many levels, but there was still more to come.
For this was the night of the PDML Show opening.
And off we went.
Finding a liquor vendor along the way was a good thing to do, so we laid in
a supply of whiskey and wine for laters, and to the gallery we went.
It was quite fun. I met a whole bunch of PDML members who also came to the
show, and I also got to meet Sue, the curator of the gallery.
The show is well worth seeing. I had seen all of the pictures on the web,
but nothing prepared me for the splendour that was hung on the walls of the
Scharpenberg Gallery.
We are an incredibly talented bunch of photographers, and I am proud to be a 
member of this community.
Talking about talented photographers, I coudn't believe that Ted actually 
talked to me.
I may not have given him any choice though.
But he still talked to me.
Actually, everyone was quite gracious.
Especially Tom.
After the show, Tom, Ann, Jay and myself went to a little Pizzeria that served 
what I believe was a Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza.
After that, a bottle of wine and a few hours of sleep, and we found ourselves 
in the Sheraton's food for exorbitant profit centre, and then off to the 
Chicago Art Institute and the William Eggleston Exhibit.
Gonzo Photography.
I suspect that he and Hunter Thompson smoked a few together.
And then some silly tourist photography, back to the gallery for a dose of 
Matisse, and supper with the whole gang at a place that Tom's Voodoo Device 
said was permanently closed.
After we were done with it.
But seriously, more good food, and I got to see Jostein's book from his trip to 
Penguinland.
More seriously good photography there, and then we were off to the park, where 
loud music was calling.
Apparently, we are too fucking old, because it chased us away.
But I digress.
Refreshing beverages were in order, but after making the mistake of trying to 
park closer to the bar, and having an epic fail with a parkade, Tom chickened 
out so we went back to the hotel.
Where we had a small but adequate stock of refreshing beverage.
And then, far too soon, this morning and off to the airport.

It was truly a pleasure to meet in person, more members of this community. 
Meeting Boris and Jostein was what I'll remember the most, simply because of 
the effort that they made to be there.
Seeing Ann again was truly a pleasure.
Cory, did you really say you couldn't believe you were shaking my hand?
By my count, 18 of the 44 artists who have pictures in this show were in 
attendance, and whether I was meeting you for the first time or reacquainting 
myself with you, it was a pleasure to be there.

A friend of mine, who shoots a different brand of cam

Re: Any Aussie PDML'ers going to PMA in Melbourne?

[P. J. Alling]

Opportunity for what exactly?  O:-)

On 5/8/2010 12:52 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

Siiigh, you lot never miss an opportunity do you?!?

;-P

t.x.

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Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2010 1:52 PM
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Just had a thought - from exactly where are you going to hang the bells Tan?
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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Peter! Taken in shadows and I pumped their color probably slightly more 
than I should have which may contribute to the artificial look.
They remind me of what you might see on hand painted pottery.
Welcome back..by the way.

Jack

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Finch Pair II
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:38 PM
> On 5/10/2010 12:47 PM, Matthew Hunt
> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christian
> Skofteland
> >  
> wrote:
> >    
> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM -0700, Jack
> Davis wrote:
> >>      
> >>> Pumped the yellow somewhat.
> >>>
> >>> Jack
> >>>
> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone
> orange...  :-) The male is
> >> just not in full breeding color yet so he is just
> a little drab that's all.  No
> >> need to try to make color where it doesn't exist
> naturally. :-)
> >>      
> > I agree with Christian that the original was much more
> representative
> > of how the birds look.  Either way, it's an
> excellent composition and
> > well-timed.
> >
> >    
> I agree on the timing.  It almost looks like a shot of
> stuffed birds, 
> it's so perfect.
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Re: PESO: Finch Pair II

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/10/2010 12:47 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Christian Skofteland
  wrote:
   

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:07:37AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
 

Pumped the yellow somewhat.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=500

   

Yes, but the female's olvive coloring has now gone orange...  :-) The male is
just not in full breeding color yet so he is just a little drab that's all.  No
need to try to make color where it doesn't exist naturally. :-)
 

I agree with Christian that the original was much more representative
of how the birds look.  Either way, it's an excellent composition and
well-timed.

   
I agree on the timing.  It almost looks like a shot of stuffed birds, 
it's so perfect.


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Re: PESO - The Hunter

[frank theriault]

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> Here my buddy who took my portrait.
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/hunter.html

That's a wonderful photo!

cheers,
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Re: Augenblick gallery

[Stan Halpin]

I think that a longer run for the show is a fine idea. But Sue really should 
poll each of the contributors and pull any images which a contributor wants 
back sooner. For example, how are the sales handled? Does the artist need to 
wait until the transaction is finalized (the image handed over to the buyer in 
exchange for a cheque)? If so, those who have proceeds coming may prefer not to 
wait an extra month. Hopefully the whole collection can stay intact and 
available to the public for another month though.

I envy you the chance to go back to the gallery Bob. If it had been a bit more 
accessible I would have done that Saturday afternoon. If the show extends, I 
might be able to get back up there for an afternoon.

stan

On May 16, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> I went out to the Dank Haus yesterday to stop by the gallery.
> I needed a chance to see the pictures instead of the people.
> Sue Barton was there and the pictures look as good as ever.
> She said there was a private showing at 3:30 associated with a wedding.
> She also wondered about leaving the pictures up a bit longer.
> She doesn't have anything coming into to replace us for a month(?).
> Wow, that was a great weekend.
> If you missed it, you should try harder next time.
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[John Sessoms]

From: Steven Desjardins

I use canned air.  It's pretty fast so unless your battery is nearly
dead you should be able to pull it off before the mirror comes back.
Obviously, don't get the tube so close to the sensor that the
cryogenic liquid actually collects on the surface of the sensor.
Also, if something were to get in there larger than dust you could
blow it around hard enough to nick the sensor.  Also be sure you don't
accidently grab the WD-40.


Problems with canned "air" as I understand them can be threefold:

1. If you are ham-handed and get the propellant on the sensor it can 
leave a sticky residue that attracts more dust. I HAVE SEEN this one, 
and am just glad it was NOT ME who effed it up.


2. Some canned "air" uses a solvent propellant that will etch the 
surface if you get it on there.


3. Too high pressure may damage the sensor surface.

According to one site, the sensor has an IR filter over it, so you don't 
damage the actual sensor, just the IR filter - which may (??) be 
replaceable without replacing the sensor. Might not cost as much?


Still whatever the cost, it's too high if you have to both pay and admit 
you did something stupid. Sometimes the social costs are more than the 
actual dollar charge.


Plus, you're deprived of your camera until it comes back from repair.

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Re: PESO-Clementine Rainbow

[Rob Studdert]

On 16/05/2010, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Lake Clementine just above the city of Auburn California.  Spring
> runoff makes for a nice scene.
>
> Pentax K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 26mm
> ISO 100, 1/160 sec @ f/16, Tripod
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00373-1.htm

Hi Bruce,

Nice shot but again it's very dark on my monitor, what white luminance
value is your monitor calibrated to?

Cheers,

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Re: Geso Photo day at Pickering Horse Centre (big one)

[P. J. Alling]

I haven't looked at all of them, but I think the shadows are a bit 
harsh.  You really need an assistant holding a large white reflector.


On 5/16/2010 11:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Saturday was my group photo day at the above horse farm. I took photos
of about 21 riders and horse combo's. Heavy overcast day and windy.
Weather network forecast sunny and warm. Now i cannot even trust my
weather man. I'm bummed.

Any way, for those that want to have a gander:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-phc1/album/index.html

WARNING; There are over 600 photos, i but everything up, that was the
deal. The D200 and SB800 for fill worked quite well in about 95% of
the photos. I used P mode for this and that combo seems good for fill.
Only problems were if i got to close and forgot to dial down more or
the sun came out momentarily. Both caused slightly bright, but not
burnt out photos that should be scaled back in LR. I shot RAW +low res
jpegs so i could do the jalbum.

No PP on these just dragged and dropped into jalbum. SB 800 had the
supplied softbox and i had it set at 45.

Dave

   



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Re: Camera bag for bike trip?

[Christine Nielsen]

BTW, here's a little bike porn -- call it a three-way?  -- a few snaps
of one of the rigs we'll be taking to Colorado:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028...@n04/sets/72157623811081733/

:)
-c

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Don't have any answers for you on the equipment side, but if you want
> to photograph the Durango & Silverton Railroad while you're in the
> area, I can suggest a couple of good spots. Just plug the numbers into
> Google Maps search and it will show you where they are.
>
>
> Thanks, John --
> I'll definitely check these out.  I know that on one day of the trip,
> there will be a "Race the Train" event, in which the strongest (most
> foolish?) teams will endeavor to beat the train to Silverton.  The
> rest of us will be on said train, and enjoy the ride downhill on bikes
> after.  So,  there should be some good photo ops going both ways.  :)
>
>
> Bob/Scott/Mark/Subash/Godfrey --
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.  My biggest concern is minimizing the
> jiggle factor.  I'll check out your links -- I like the Ortlieb camera
> insert idea... That might work for my everyday camera bag, too...
> which is often just my purse.
>
> Best,
> -c
>
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>>
>> From: Christine Nielsen
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Since it's never too early to start planning my next gear purchase,
>>> I've started obsessing on how I will outfit myself for our vacation in
>>> August...
>>>
>>> Our trip will include 4 days of tandem touring around Durango,
>>> Colorado.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to bring my camera
>>> along.  It will be a somewhat minimalist kit -- my k7, plus a lens or
>>> two... no tripod, no ginormous zooms.  A backpack is one option, but
>>> I'm curious about handlebar bags and/or panniers... I know there are
>>> some cycle enthusiasts out there -- any thoughts?
>>
>> Don't have any answers for you on the equipment side, but if you want to 
>> photograph the Durango & Silverton Railroad while you're in the area, I can 
>> suggest a couple of good spots. Just plug the numbers into Google Maps 
>> search and it will show you where they are.
>>
>> 37.490801,-107.804923
>> This one is good for the morning leg outbound. Both trains stop at Rockwood 
>> Station about 500 ft east of here. This is a good spot to catch the engine 
>> as it comes out of a deep cut.
>>
>> 37.788635,-107.668571
>> There is a closed down mine at the end of Co Rd 31. If you stay away from 
>> the buildings and equipment, no one should fuss at you. Gives a good view of 
>> a low trestle the trains will be crossing in the afternoon/evening heading 
>> back to Durango. You can get right up to the edge of the trestle, and if you 
>> don't mind COLD water, you can wade across the stream and get good shots of 
>> the approach.
>>
>> Don't know how bicycle friendly the trip from Durango to Silverton is, it 
>> climbs from about 6500 ft at Durango to 10400 at Coal Bank Pass.
>>
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[paul stenquist]

On May 16, 2010, at 8:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> On 5/16/2010 7:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "frank theriault"
>> Subject: Cleaning Sensors
>> 
>> 
>>> Or more specifically the sensor in my *istD.
>>> 
>>> Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to professionals?
>>> 
>>> If I can do it myself, how?
>>> 
>>> If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>> 
>> This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor with 
>> canned gas.
>> It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
>> I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for 
>> recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so I 
>> challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance where 
>> they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
>> The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store who 
>> had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, but it 
>> wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...
>> 
>> William Robb
>> 
> I do the same thing.  Buy a good quality brand and there's no problems.  I 
> did have a bargain price product that spit liquid propellant, which would 
> probably craze the low pass filter, but I'd never use that on anything 
> sensitive.
> 
I've ruined negatives with cans of gas that spit liquid. I definitely wouldn't 
risk using it on a sensor. Yeah, you can probably get away with it most of the 
time. But why take a chance? There are better tools with which to clean a 
sensor.
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Re: Camera bag for bike trip?

[Christine Nielsen]

Don't have any answers for you on the equipment side, but if you want
to photograph the Durango & Silverton Railroad while you're in the
area, I can suggest a couple of good spots. Just plug the numbers into
Google Maps search and it will show you where they are.


Thanks, John --
I'll definitely check these out.  I know that on one day of the trip,
there will be a "Race the Train" event, in which the strongest (most
foolish?) teams will endeavor to beat the train to Silverton.  The
rest of us will be on said train, and enjoy the ride downhill on bikes
after.  So,  there should be some good photo ops going both ways.  :)


Bob/Scott/Mark/Subash/Godfrey --

Thanks for the suggestions.  My biggest concern is minimizing the
jiggle factor.  I'll check out your links -- I like the Ortlieb camera
insert idea... That might work for my everyday camera bag, too...
which is often just my purse.

Best,
-c

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>
> From: Christine Nielsen
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Since it's never too early to start planning my next gear purchase,
>> I've started obsessing on how I will outfit myself for our vacation in
>> August...
>>
>> Our trip will include 4 days of tandem touring around Durango,
>> Colorado.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to bring my camera
>> along.  It will be a somewhat minimalist kit -- my k7, plus a lens or
>> two... no tripod, no ginormous zooms.  A backpack is one option, but
>> I'm curious about handlebar bags and/or panniers... I know there are
>> some cycle enthusiasts out there -- any thoughts?
>
> Don't have any answers for you on the equipment side, but if you want to 
> photograph the Durango & Silverton Railroad while you're in the area, I can 
> suggest a couple of good spots. Just plug the numbers into Google Maps search 
> and it will show you where they are.
>
> 37.490801,-107.804923
> This one is good for the morning leg outbound. Both trains stop at Rockwood 
> Station about 500 ft east of here. This is a good spot to catch the engine as 
> it comes out of a deep cut.
>
> 37.788635,-107.668571
> There is a closed down mine at the end of Co Rd 31. If you stay away from the 
> buildings and equipment, no one should fuss at you. Gives a good view of a 
> low trestle the trains will be crossing in the afternoon/evening heading back 
> to Durango. You can get right up to the edge of the trestle, and if you don't 
> mind COLD water, you can wade across the stream and get good shots of the 
> approach.
>
> Don't know how bicycle friendly the trip from Durango to Silverton is, it 
> climbs from about 6500 ft at Durango to 10400 at Coal Bank Pass.
>
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Re: Augenblick gallery

[Cory Waters]

I, for one, would like it very much if the exhibit hangs longer.  My Mom 
n 'em are trying to work out a trip to the other side of the lake to see 
it.  More time would make those logistics easier.

CW


On 5/16/2010 6:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I went out to the Dank Haus yesterday to stop by the gallery.
I needed a chance to see the pictures instead of the people.
Sue Barton was there and the pictures look as good as ever.
She said there was a private showing at 3:30 associated with a wedding.
She also wondered about leaving the pictures up a bit longer.
She doesn't have anything coming into to replace us for a month(?).
Wow, that was a great weekend.
If you missed it, you should try harder next time.
Regards,  Bob S.





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Re: Completely, waaayyyy OT: Architecture - Personal

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/9/2010 12:00 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-07 7:53, frank theriault wrote:


> http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/B/l/glasshouse.jpg


I couldn't do that.  I'm not an exhibitionist.


I think it's something like a guest house, someplace for a visitor to 
stay for a weekend. That sort of thing.


I wouldn't be surprised if there were full size, wrap-around curtains 
that were removed temporarily during the photo shoot.


That's Philip Johnson's "Glass House", in New Canaan CT.  Curtains were 
not in the plans, and it exists on a multi acre, so inspite of it's 
design, the inhabitant has a lot of privacy.  The guest house by the way 
has /no/ windows


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Re: PESO - I'd Rather Be Sailing

[Bruce Dayton]

Very nice, Frank.  I like what you did here.  I would be apt to crop
just a little more off top and bottom - but that is just me.

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Sunday, May 16, 2010, 2:39:30 PM, you wrote:

ft> That used to be a bumper sticker around here (I'm guessing it was also
ft> around in the US), and when I saw this fellow it reminded me of that
ft> quote:

ft> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/id-rather-be-sailing.html

ft> Love B&W as I do, some photos ~need~ to be in colour.

ft> ;-)

ft> Hope you enjoy.

ft> Comments welcome.

ft> Took hundreds of photos down by the water today, so I think I'm good
ft> for PESOs for a week or more (I hope, anyway).

ft> cheers,
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/16/2010 7:49 PM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Cleaning Sensors



Or more specifically the sensor in my *istD.

Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to professionals?

If I can do it myself, how?

If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?

Thanks!


This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor 
with canned gas.

It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for 
recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so 
I challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance 
where they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store 
who had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, 
but it wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...


William Robb

I do the same thing.  Buy a good quality brand and there's no problems.  
I did have a bargain price product that spit liquid propellant, which 
would probably craze the low pass filter, but I'd never use that on 
anything sensitive.


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Re: peso - strolling

[Sasha Sobol]

Thanks to everyone.
I think the window was painted as well.

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On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Excellent!  Wonderful timing.
>
> --
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> Bruce
>
>
> Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:57:15 PM, you wrote:
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> SS> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4609700698/
>
> SS> c&c are very welcome.
>
> SS> --Sasha
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[Steven Desjardins]

Lock the mirror open, lay the camera on the floor, and urinate on the
sensor. I've never heard of a single instance where this failed.
(Don't kill me Bill)


I use canned air.  It's pretty fast so unless your battery is nearly
dead you should be able to pull it off before the mirror comes back.
Obviously, don't get the tube so close to the sensor that the
cryogenic liquid actually collects on the surface of the sensor.
Also, if something were to get in there larger than dust you could
blow it around hard enough to nick the sensor.  Also be sure you don't
accidently grab the WD-40.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On May 16, 2010, at 4:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
>
>>
>> This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor
>> with canned gas.
>> It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
>> I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for
>> recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so I
>> challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance where
>> they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
>> The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store who
>> had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, but it
>> wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...
>
> I didn't wreck a camera with canned air, but I did damage the mirror in my
> K100 by cleaning it with canned air.
>>
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Re: Camera bag for bike trip?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I have a rack that takes a top bag and/or pannier bag setup.

I don't go bicycle touring, so I bought the top bag. It has a locking
rail onto the rack and is well padded for my camera gear. It slides
off the rack by undoing a (lockable) catch and has clips for a
shoulder strap. Light, simple, minimalistic. It holds an SLR and up to
three lenses, and I can strap the Manfrotto 190CXpro3 tripod on top of
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen"

Subject: Re: Cleaning Sensors





I didn't wreck a camera with canned air, but I did damage the mirror  in 
my K100 by cleaning it with canned air.




I'm almost afraid to ask how you managed that, but I'll ask anyway.

So, how did yoiu manage to be such a clumsy oaf that you damaged your 
camera?


William Robb 



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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[Bong Manayon]

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:49 AM, William Robb  wrote:
> This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor with
> canned gas.
> It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
> I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for
> recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so I
> challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance where
> they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
> The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store who
> had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, but it
> wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...
>
> William Robb
>

I have not heard anything about canned gas this side of the world.
Interviewing, a local technician (remember those things are built
here...), the thing to worry about is the mirror crashing down on you
while you're wiping the sensor because the battery died.  They
mention, as a rule, that they have an AC adapter to make sure that
does not happened.

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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[Larry Colen]

On May 16, 2010, at 4:49 PM, William Robb wrote:



This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the  
sensor with canned gas.

It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for  
recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera,  
so I challenged the good people there to come up with one single  
instance where they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera  
store who had apparently done some damage to his camera while  
cleaning it, but it wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was  
the culprit...


I didn't wreck a camera with canned air, but I did damage the mirror  
in my K100 by cleaning it with canned air.




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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault"

Subject: Cleaning Sensors



Or more specifically the sensor in my *istD.

Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to professionals?

If I can do it myself, how?

If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?

Thanks!


This make people cringe, but I lock the mirror up and shoot the sensor with 
canned gas.

It seems to work, and I haven't hurt anything yet.
I mentioned this on ForumsNeurotica and got soundly thrashed for 
recommending a cleaning method that would surely wreck the camera, so I 
challenged the good people there to come up with one single instance where 
they could verify canned gas wrecking a camera.
The closest I got was a guy who met a guy coming out of a camera store who 
had apparently done some damage to his camera while cleaning it, but it 
wasn't really verifiable that the canned gas was the culprit...


William Robb 



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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

[Charles Robinson]

On May 16, 2010, at 18:14, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Charles Robinson
>> On May 16, 2010, at 16:21, John Sessoms wrote:
 About the only song I really do detest is "Freebird". Guaranteed
 to cause me to change the station.
>> I will grant that it's been monumentally overplayed on the radio.  I
>> hear it about once a year (don't really listen to the stations that
>> would play it) and that's fine.
> 
> Overplayed? Maybe just a bit. I'm living down south where they even play it 
> on NPR stations.
> 

Ooh, you poor bastard.  :-)

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Re: PESO: Afternoon of a Fawn

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, David and Dominique!

Dan

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Madame RD  wrote:
> Le 16/05/10 03:20, frank theriault a écrit :
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
>>   wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On the way home from work yesterday, I encountered the first new-born
>>> fawn of the season, on my neighbor's front lawn.
>>>
>>> I had the wrong camera, the wrong lens, and no time to adjust ISO, WB
>>> or exposure compensation.  The light was fading, and the critter and
>>> it's mom were moving away.  I had to severely crop to make the tiny
>>> thing visible in the final image.
>>>
>>> But I caught it!  That's all that mattered to me.
>>>
>>> > From the wilds of New Jersey:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11009116
>>>
>>> Uncropped image:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11009113
>>>
>>> Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms, Abuse and Arguments Politely
>>> Entertained.
>>>
>>
>> I'm with Bob:  I prefer the uncropped version by far.
>>
>> Great catch!
>>
>
> yes . you caught it and that's an accomplishment   uncropped version
> best...
>
> dominique
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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[paul stenquist]

On May 16, 2010, at 5:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: frank theriault
>> Or more specifically the sensor in my *istD.
>> Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to professionals?
>> If I can do it myself, how?
>> If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?
> 
> My personal choice is to leave it to the professional. I'm afraid I'd be a 
> little ham-handed and could end up spending a LOT more for repairs.
> 
> If you're going to attempt it yourself, start here:
> 
> http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/index.html
> 
> Forty to fifty dollars USD is not unreasonable IF the shop does a good job. I 
> had it done once a year.
> 
> The problem is finding a shop that DOES do a good job. I wouldn't trust most 
> chain stores (like Wolf/Ritz).
> 
> Nikon/Canon offered cleanings at $40 per at the CNPA (Carolinas Nature 
> Photography Association) annual convention, and they would take all comers, 
> Nikon/Canon or not ... up until this year when Nikon dropped out and the 
> Canon rep would only do Canon.
> 
> Don't know yet who I'm going to go to now.
> 

I wouldn't trust anyone cleaning my sensor other than the manufacturer's 
service center. And I'd be nervous about having them do it. 

I simply use an ear blower that was sterile when I bought it. It's kept in a 
box when not in use. If it can't remove a speck, I use the Pentax sensor 
cleaner, which is quite easy to use and very effective:
http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-Image-Sensor-Cleaning-O-ICK1/product-reviews/B0018ODLH6/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

As one user notes in the amazon reviews, it looks like the kit includes less 
than a buck worth of material. But it works very well. To me, that makes it a 
good buy.

Paul


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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson

On May 16, 2010, at 16:21, John Sessoms wrote:


About the only song I really do detest is "Freebird". Guaranteed
to cause me to change the station.



I will grant that it's been monumentally overplayed on the radio.  I
hear it about once a year (don't really listen to the stations that
would play it) and that's fine.


Overplayed? Maybe just a bit. I'm living down south where they even play 
it on NPR stations.


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Re: The Next Generation

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Trashes the lens mount.

Funny, the lens mounts on my 2 lenses aren't trashed. They work fine on
a Canon body, and re-eqipped with Pentax mounts, work fine back on
Pentax, albeit in stop down metering mode. Not a problem for me as I
only use the 85 wide open for portraiture. The 15 is big and heavy, so
as the landscape lens I set focus according to depth of field required
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Re: PESO - The Hunter

[Tim Øsleby]

Boys are boys you know.
We could probably shoot the same birds from the kitchen window, but
what's the fun in that ;-)

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2010/5/17 Cotty :
> On 16/5/10, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Here my buddy who took my portrait.
>>http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/hunter.html
>
> The lengths you guys have to go to see some hot Norwegian chicks
>
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Re: The Next Generation

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Rather than beating up on Pentax glass to try to get it to mostly work
>on a Canon, get Canon glass for the Canon, and a K-x to use the Pentax
>glass.

I beat up on the pentax glass some years ago. It doesn't mostly work on
the Canon, it works beautifully.

K15/3.5 on a 1DmII:



A*85/1.4 on same:



I'm watching some canon glass auctions so we'll get him equipped for
putting his sport portfolio together asap.



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Re: The Next Generation

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>"He's a rebel and he'll never be any good"
>
>

When he wears a white t-shirt I swear he looks just like James Dean...

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Re: The Next Generation

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The lenses then are simply used with stop-down metering in aperture priority.

Update. I've put the Canon mount back on the A*85/1.4 and when Stef
looked through just said 'oh wow'...

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Re: Augenblick gallery

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bob Sullivan wrote:


I went out to the Dank Haus yesterday to stop by the gallery.
I needed a chance to see the pictures instead of the people.
Sue Barton was there and the pictures look as good as ever.
She said there was a private showing at 3:30 associated with a wedding.
She also wondered about leaving the pictures up a bit longer.
She doesn't have anything coming into to replace us for a month(?).
Wow, that was a great weekend.
If you missed it, you should try harder next time.
Regards,  Bob S.

 


Wow _ I personally think it woudl be super if she left it up for longer --
better chance for sales, and better chance for some Chicago friends
of mine to get to see it that were not able to get to the opening...

It was definitely a fun weekend... I didn't want to come home

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RE: Camera bag for bike trip?

[John Sessoms]

From: Christine Nielsen

Hi all,

Since it's never too early to start planning my next gear purchase,
I've started obsessing on how I will outfit myself for our vacation in
August...

Our trip will include 4 days of tandem touring around Durango,
Colorado.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to bring my camera
along.  It will be a somewhat minimalist kit -- my k7, plus a lens or
two... no tripod, no ginormous zooms.  A backpack is one option, but
I'm curious about handlebar bags and/or panniers... I know there are
some cycle enthusiasts out there -- any thoughts?


Don't have any answers for you on the equipment side, but if you want to 
photograph the Durango & Silverton Railroad while you're in the area, I 
can suggest a couple of good spots. Just plug the numbers into Google 
Maps search and it will show you where they are.


37.490801,-107.804923
This one is good for the morning leg outbound. Both trains stop at 
Rockwood Station about 500 ft east of here. This is a good spot to catch 
the engine as it comes out of a deep cut.


37.788635,-107.668571
There is a closed down mine at the end of Co Rd 31. If you stay away 
from the buildings and equipment, no one should fuss at you. Gives a 
good view of a low trestle the trains will be crossing in the 
afternoon/evening heading back to Durango. You can get right up to the 
edge of the trestle, and if you don't mind COLD water, you can wade 
across the stream and get good shots of the approach.


Don't know how bicycle friendly the trip from Durango to Silverton is, 
it climbs from about 6500 ft at Durango to 10400 at Coal Bank Pass.


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

[Adam Maas]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> > "Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
>> > realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
>> > - Bill Robb
>>
>> Not if you're an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...
>>
>> Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)
>>
>
> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!

Try a real MF SLR. The Leica's good, but a Contax 645 is still better.


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Re: PESO - The Hunter

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here my buddy who took my portrait.
>http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/05/hunter.html

The lengths you guys have to go to see some hot Norwegian chicks

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Re: Geso Photo day at Pickering Horse Centre (big one)

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Any way, for those that want to have a gander:
>
>http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-phc1/album/index.html

Dave mate I'll tell you where you're going wrong, just sod the horses
and shoot the girls mate :-)))

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RE: Augenblick gallery

[Bob W]

Man, you are so last week!

> 
> In the "better late than never" department...
> 
> My wife and I have a date to see the exhibit at 11 am 
> Thursday.  Anyone care to join us?
> 
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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Since I did not license the music properly, I will have to delete this
>slideshow from my web site, which I will do probably towards the end
>of the next week.

So you won't mind me nabbing some of your pics for advertising use for a
few days then?

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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video file

[Cotty]

On 16/5/10,  Boris , discombobulated, unleashed:

>> Actually, it is not *that* hard. Not this time. I simply was driving
>> to work on the next day after having returned home and was listening
>> to this music. At the time I thought it was somehow befitting my
>> general mood or state of mind during my trip, and so I thought I might
>> as well put some photographs to it.
>>
>> But since you're the second person who said that the sound wasn't good
>> enough, I'd like to ask you what made you turn the sound off? You can
>> reply off list if you wish. Though may be your opinion will be
>> valuable to others as well.

Of course, it's all down to individual taste - much as the appreciation
of a photograph. The music sounded chintzy and very low quality - not
technical quality - rather the quality of the piece. It is basically
elevator music. But as I say, you get what you pay for and indeed if you
don't pay at all, then that's even worse ;-)

The quality of the photographs far outstrips the quality of the music -
the music (far from complimenting the photographs) actually detracts
from them (all of this in my humble opinion).

Viewing photographs with music attached becomes a personal choice - for
instance, I'd much rather look at something with the Doves blasting away
in my lobes than, or maybe nothing at all. When one chooses music to
impose of a viewer, one has to be very careful in selection - simply
choosing something 'that will do' is not good enough - and can (as I
say) detract from the experience.

However - that said - it is very difficult to choose copyright-free
music of a decent quality and suitability from (say) the internet. Which
is why most people will just grab their favourite high quality music by
famous artists and bung it up onto Youtube. In this case, most choices
are good - because the quality of the piece of music is excellent (by
commercial artists - well most of them!). Of course, you might think
that a copyright-free piece of music is perfectly good - and that's fine
because I have a volume button :-)

If you're putting together an AV presentations professionally or don't
mind spending a few groats on music in an amateur capacity, there are
plenty of low-cost options on the net. The one I use exclusively is AKM:



because they have a consistently good hit rate of keepers.

HTH Boris and take it all with a pinch of salt. You know that you should
make things just for yourself and if someone else likes it also, too bad ;-)



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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[Rick Womer]

Frank,

It's not hard.

My Giotto Rocket blower usually takes care of things.  I prefer Pec Pads and 
Eclipse fluid to the Pentax cleaning kit, personally.

Rick

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> Subject: Cleaning Sensors
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 8:03 AM
> Or more specifically the sensor in my
> *istD.
> 
> Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to
> professionals?
> 
> If I can do it myself, how?
> 
> If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Chicago Slide Show with Music, this time proper video

[John Sessoms]

From: Richard D Bush
A second thoughtmaybe Pictures at an Exhibition would have pleased  
more peoples' musical tastes.


Works if you've got a house on chicken legs.

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Re: Augenblick gallery

[Rick Womer]

In the "better late than never" department...

My wife and I have a date to see the exhibit at 11 am Thursday.  Anyone care to 
join us?

Rick

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--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: Augenblick gallery
> To: "PDML" 
> Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 6:08 PM
> I went out to the Dank Haus yesterday
> to stop by the gallery.
> I needed a chance to see the pictures instead of the
> people.
> Sue Barton was there and the pictures look as good as
> ever.
> She said there was a private showing at 3:30 associated
> with a wedding.
> She also wondered about leaving the pictures up a bit
> longer.
> She doesn't have anything coming into to replace us for a
> month(?).
> Wow, that was a great weekend.
> If you missed it, you should try harder next time.
> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/6/2010 9:56 PM, Michael Beacom wrote:


On May 6, 2010, at 1:09 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:


John Francis  wrote:


On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:

CheekyGeek  wrote:


"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm 
points

to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: 
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html 



Headline comes from the Department of "Duh":
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"

No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?


Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, 
rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too 
dark.


"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


MARK!


Too late by a number of years.

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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[P. J. Alling]

I guess I know now...

On 5/7/2010 6:46 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30 +0200, "Dario Bonazza"
  wrote:
   

Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if this
nothing can develop...

 


Wellhere's a start.

http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/white-fat-cat.jpg



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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/7/2010 5:30 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if 
this nothing can develop...


Dario


Into what?

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Augenblick gallery

[Bob Sullivan]

I went out to the Dank Haus yesterday to stop by the gallery.
I needed a chance to see the pictures instead of the people.
Sue Barton was there and the pictures look as good as ever.
She said there was a private showing at 3:30 associated with a wedding.
She also wondered about leaving the pictures up a bit longer.
She doesn't have anything coming into to replace us for a month(?).
Wow, that was a great weekend.
If you missed it, you should try harder next time.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO - I'd Rather Be Sailing

[Derby Chang]

frank theriault wrote:

That used to be a bumper sticker around here (I'm guessing it was also
around in the US), and when I saw this fellow it reminded me of that
quote:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/id-rather-be-sailing.html

Love B&W as I do, some photos ~need~ to be in colour.

;-)

Hope you enjoy.

Comments welcome.

Took hundreds of photos down by the water today, so I think I'm good
for PESOs for a week or more (I hope, anyway).

cheers,
frank

  


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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

[John Sessoms]

From: Ann Sanfedele
clearly not a photo of someone suffering from the recession... Prada and 
"7" jeans... this chick is loaded  :-) 


ann


Or was ... maybe not anymore?

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Re: Completely, waaayyyy OT: Architecture - Personal

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/7/2010 4:05 PM, Bob W wrote:

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Bob W  wrote:
   

The problem with modern architects is that they don't give any
thought to the way people actually live. Take that house for
example - useless if you like to throw stones.
   

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/B/l/glasshouse.jpg

Toss away.
   

Aesthetically pleasing, but those houses take a LOT of land.

Plus there's no damn closet space.
 

I'd love a place like that, isolated in some woods. There might be closet
space in the basement - a clever architect would put a basement floor in
with a panoramic window and terrace looking out over the valley behind.
   


There's quite a dissection of that particular house on line somewhere.  
Not a pleasant place to live at all.





   



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Re: PESO: Women's Wear

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/5/2010 3:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I came across this store window earlier this week, and it struck my fancy:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10979551

Comments, criticisms, suggestions, and abuse are welcome.

Dan

   

Very butch.

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RE: Cleaning Sensors

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

Or more specifically the sensor in my *istD.

Is this a do-at-home project or something best left to professionals?

If I can do it myself, how?

If I take it to a shop, what's a reasonable price?


My personal choice is to leave it to the professional. I'm afraid I'd be 
a little ham-handed and could end up spending a LOT more for repairs.


If you're going to attempt it yourself, start here:

http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com/index.html

Forty to fifty dollars USD is not unreasonable IF the shop does a good 
job. I had it done once a year.


The problem is finding a shop that DOES do a good job. I wouldn't trust 
most chain stores (like Wolf/Ritz).


Nikon/Canon offered cleanings at $40 per at the CNPA (Carolinas Nature 
Photography Association) annual convention, and they would take all 
comers, Nikon/Canon or not ... up until this year when Nikon dropped out 
and the Canon rep would only do Canon.


Don't know yet who I'm going to go to now.

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Re: Cleaning Sensors

[eckinator]

2010/5/16 Dario Bonazza :
> Toine wrote:
>
>> If you can find the Pentax sensor cleaning kit OCK1 or something like
>> that grab it. It works wonders and it's easy to use. I saw a movie
>> from the Leica factory and they also used the pentax cleaning kit!
>
> http://www.pentaxfoto.it/it/group/37/product/39357/body/overview/accessories.html
> I also use that wand, and I'm not even remotely Leica! Seriously, the O-ICK1
> works smooth, effective and without risks. I shoot a lot in front of the
> stage at feet level while musicians play, dance and scream, with a lot (and
> I mean A LOT) of dust floating around and getting inside the camera while
> changing lenses, and it' works flawlessly. Since then, cleaning sensors is
> no longer a nightmare.

Thirded! I use it, too.
Cheers
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RE: PESO - I'd Rather Be Sailing

[Bob W]

> That used to be a bumper sticker around here (I'm guessing it 
> was also around in the US), and when I saw this fellow it 
> reminded me of that
> quote:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/id-rather-be-sailing.html
> 
> Love B&W as I do, some photos ~need~ to be in colour.
> 
> ;-)

I think the dog would rather be somewhere else too. The picture is weakened
for me by not showing their feet, otherwise it's a nice composition.

Bob


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PESO - I'd Rather Be Sailing

[frank theriault]

That used to be a bumper sticker around here (I'm guessing it was also
around in the US), and when I saw this fellow it reminded me of that
quote:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/id-rather-be-sailing.html

Love B&W as I do, some photos ~need~ to be in colour.

;-)

Hope you enjoy.

Comments welcome.

Took hundreds of photos down by the water today, so I think I'm good
for PESOs for a week or more (I hope, anyway).

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Re: GESO - Saturday Evening at the Pond

[P. J. Alling]

Or haunt a camera store for a used 500mm Mirror.  You might have to try 
out a few before you find one that's relatively sharp.  But they can be 
had cheep enough.


On 5/16/2010 11:24 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:51 AM, frank theriault
  wrote:
  - would love the 600 mm
   

monster, carbon fibre tripod and flash extender that the camo-covered
guy I was talking to last weekend had, but sadly, funds (or lack
thereof) get in the way of such thoughts.
 

Get a good 200 and learn to slink.;-)

Dave
   

;-)

Glad you enjoyed, Jack!

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Re: Peso Danielle and Pippin

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/16/2010 11:57 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

This is one of my favorite shots from Saturday.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4611584173/

For some reason the skin tones are red on flickr but look fine on the
adjustment.

??

D200, SB 800 for fill. Square cropped in Preview.

Dave

   

That's very nice.

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PESO - Gifts

[Derby Chang]

Am diggin' the MZ-S

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_05/10_05_gifts/01.htm


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RE: Go away for a week and get 1700+ messages

[Bob W]

> 
> A new PDML motto.

Yea? Well think about how Doug feels. Poor sap has to transcribe every
message by hand individually for each subscriber and take 'em all to the
mailbox himself, and that sack ain't getting' any lighter with the years,
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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

[Charles Robinson]

On May 16, 2010, at 16:21, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> About the only song I really do detest is "Freebird". Guaranteed to cause me 
> to change the station.
> 

I will grant that it's been monumentally overplayed on the radio.  I hear it 
about once a year (don't really listen to the stations that would play it) and 
that's fine.

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Re: PESO - Free as a Bird (Chicago)

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson

On May 15, 2010, at 13:35, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "William Robb"

>>> Tom C wrote:

 >> I've long wanted to create a Beatles-themed photo tribute gallery and
 >> have a lot of unimplemented ideas, each image representing a single
 >> song.

 >> >> The trip to Chicago last weekend, in addition to being a ton of fun,

 >> unexpectedly yielded my first shot for the collection.

 >> >> We were at the 'The Bean'. I saw it happen in the viewfinder, though

 >> imperfect, and waited for what seemed like an eternity for the
 >> elements to come together as I imagined.

 >> >> But finally:  "Free as a Bird"
 >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691&size=lg

>> I still think it's a Lynyrd Skynyrd  song, but what the hell.
>> It's a terrific picture.
> 
> The "Beatles" song doesn't quite have the same interminable, drone-on-forever-oh-god-just-kill-me-now-and-put-me-out-of-my-misery WHINE, although it does seem to aspire to.
> 


Actually... I really like the Skynyrd song and thought that the Beatles' "Free As A 
Bird" was a little bit on the lame side.

And this is from someone who generally DETESTS so-called "classic rock" or "Southern 
rock".


About the only song I really do detest is "Freebird". Guaranteed to 
cause me to change the station.


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Re: Peso Raven and nut

[P. J. Alling]

I thought that the difference between Ravens and Crows were that one had 
5 wing pinions and the other 6, so the real difference is really a 
matter of a pinion...


On 5/5/2010 7:00 PM, Graydon wrote:

Good shot, but pretty sure that's a crow.  Ravens have deeper bills and
prominent decorative throat feathers.  They're generally also noticeably
larger than crows, and using the peanut for scale suggests that's a
crow.

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:51:22PM -0400, David J Brooks scripsit:
   

Another K10D and Sigma 300 f4 outing.

These guys started hanging around last year. I don't care for them,.
but can offer some entertainment dive bombing the squirrels.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10980051

K10D, Sigma 300 f4

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Re: PESO Nice Handbag

[Ken Waller]

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- Original Message - 


From: "David J Brooks" 
Subject: Re: PESO Nice Handbag



On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:

On 2010-05-16 10:10, P N Stenquist wrote:


Okay, one more day. It's not particularly distasteful, but it's somewhat
of a bad joke and perhaps a bit sexist. In truth, I like it as a
composition.
A new location, for one day only:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11016552


Well, since I'm a bad joke and a bit sexist, I like it as a derriere.


You are a little behind on this Doug.


Yes, butt.



Dave



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Re: The Next Generation

[P. J. Alling]

You have to cut off the aperture lever.  Makes going back to Pentax less 
than optimal.  If you never plan to however it's not a problem.  
Otherwise it's pretty much the same as using an M42 mount lens on a K 
mount body.


On 5/15/2010 9:16 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

what are the main issues regarding adapting
pentax K mount lenses to Canon AF bodies?

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On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cotty  wrote:
   

Stef tries out his new camera...



 

Sigh...

At least the glass is Pentax.

;-)

Nice pic, Cotty!

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RE: The Next Generation

[John Sessoms]

From: "J.C. O'Connell"

what are the main issues regarding adapting
pentax K mount lenses to Canon AF bodies?


Trashes the lens mount.

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Re: PESO - New Toy Truck

[Ken Waller]

Too bad it not an F150 !  ;+]

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 


Subject: PESO - New Toy Truck



I sat on this one for a while, not really knowing what to do with it -
for several reasons.

First of all, there's that silly "no cropping film especially from my
rangefinder" rule.  I've since realized that while it's not my
preference, sometimes it just has to be done.

Second of all, that background, especially the ads in the window of
the used/discount computer place was pissing me off.

But there's just something about the look in the kid's eyes, the way
he's hiding his face behind the truck, his whole body language that I
find very compelling.

Then I realized that those signs are part of this story in some way.
Distracting they may be, but they say something about the
neighbourhood where this was taken.

I'm walking down Parliament Street in Toronto's Cabbagetown late in
the winter when I see this kid with his father.  He's playing with
this truck.  I start chatting and compliment him on the toy.  He tells
me that his dad just gave it to him that day.  I ask him and his dad
if they'd like me to take a photo of the boy and his new toy and both
agree.

Hope you enjoy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/new-toy-truck.html

Comments welcome.

cheers,
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RE: PESO Nice Handbag

[John Sessoms]

From: P N Stenquist

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11014931&size=lg



Problem with Your Input
We had a problem processing your entry:

  This photo doesn't exist. (The owner has probably deleted it.)

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Re: PESO-Clementine Rainbow

[Ken Waller]

I suppose there'll be people liking it as it but for me it looks like a 
candidate for a composite of a properly expose water fall and one with the 
rest exposed so as to be able to take in the surrounding details.


Good subject & composition.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

Subject: PESO-Clementine Rainbow



Lake Clementine just above the city of Auburn California.  Spring
runoff makes for a nice scene.

Pentax K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 26mm
ISO 100, 1/160 sec @ f/16, Tripod

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_00373-1.htm

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Re: The Next Generation

[Ken Waller]

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From: "Cotty" 


Subject: Re: The Next Generation



On 15/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Rather than readapting those nice lenses to the Canon, why not just
pick up a K-x to use with them?


1. He spent a week with newspaper snappers last summer

2. I used to have a 1DII which he would not leave alone.

3. Given a choice of brand new Fiat 500 or a Ferrari Dino with some
dings and scrapes, his choice would be obvious.


Yeah, but proper upkeep on the Dino will kill ya !



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PESO -- Raggs

[P. J. Alling]

I planned to convert this to B&W but decided to leave it as is.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20raggs.html

Equipment: Thoroughly out dated, (Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2.8).

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PESO - The Hunter

[Tim Øsleby]

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Re: Tamron 18-250

[Toine]

Other forums think it's replaced sooner or later by a new version.
Some think it will be a WR version, that would be interesting because
fully extended the lens would create a large under pressure inside the
lens and body. The current version must also function as a piston, I'm
wondering how much dust it sucks in and out...

On 16 May 2010 12:05, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> On 5/15/2010 11:06 PM, Toine wrote:
>>
>> Why Pentax dumped it's DA18-250 version is a mystery to me.
>
> Toine, I am thinking it is because Tamron replaced 18-250 with 18-270. IMO,
> DA18-250 is produced by Tamron...
>
> Boris
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Re: Geso - Jostein's Chicago batch

[Eactivist]

Very nice gallery. I especially like Skyline  Stitch, Parking, and all the 
flowers.

That's fine, Jostein, plenty of  other people do people pics, you do just 
fine at what you do. Heh.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 5/15/2010 2:09:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time, 
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
I probably take too few pics of people.  :-)

This is the lot that passed the first  sifting:

http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=21&page=1

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Re: The Next Generation

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:48 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 05:08:21PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> On May 15, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Cotty wrote:
>>
>>> Stef tries out his new camera...
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Rather than readapting those nice lenses to the Canon, why not just pick
>> up a K-x to use with them?
>
> Cotty answered that upthread.
>
> Stef shoots sports.  The frame rate of the K-x is nowhere close to adequate.
>

4.7 fps is pretty good for most sports uses, although 8fps is gravy.
Buffer depth is the real restriction on the K-x.


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