Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:31 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I didn't get the job I interviewed for today, so WTF, I'm heading to burning man. I don't expect so, but is anyone else going? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Well, I was going to ask but decided to Google instead. It sounds like a fun event. I note that, according to Wikipedia, there is a ban on driving, except for approved mutant vehicles and that Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform. Hmmm Apparently clothing is optional, which should make your photos interesting. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Larry _ i'm not (of course!) But my young friend Kate Goldwater is... this is kate: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Talented-People/Talented-People-Color-shots/2637896_VPuoN/1/530911812_gpBq6/Large She has never been before and is all pumped about it. Closest I've gotten to it is spending a night in Gerlach in 1988... ann -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a jet-lagged walk around Southampton: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung- nx10-and-30mm-f2/ You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2 -- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got. CC welcome, of course. Cheers, --M. Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK. I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I might have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth to repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure). I particularly like the one of the 2 people in the park. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
--M. Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK. I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I might have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth to repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure). Ahem, Rotherhithe, actually. I cycle past this place when I go into town: http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/06/28/coast05walks_stage6. shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/panoramas/coast05_point6mayflower_360.sh tml looks like everywhere wants to take the credit for cleansing the ethne of those ancient Taliban. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Well, I was going to ask but decided to Google instead. In the bay area pretty much everybody under the age of 50, make that 60 knows about it, most of them know somebody who has gone. I tend to be surprised by folks not having even heard of it. It sounds like a fun event. I note that, according to Wikipedia, there is a ban on driving, except for approved mutant vehicles and that Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform. Hmmm Apparently clothing is optional, which should make your photos interesting. With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) I went in 2006 and that was my first time really exercising my FX20, which was my first decent digital camera. I love it at night, it makes me think of what Faerie would look like if it existed. I just went through and grabbed a few of them, pretty much as they came out of the camera, I didn't have anything to do post processing, other than sizing them down, back then. You have to look for silhouettes of people to get a sense of scale of some of the art. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624692491693/ I call this one shooting the moon through the heart http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230249987/in/set-72157624692491693/ They played dance music in this sculpture pretty much continuously until they burned it on the last night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230264779/in/set-72157624692491693/ Which is why I call this one disco inferno http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230261569/in/set-72157624692491693/ If you're really fascinated, there are a lot more of my shots from 2006 in this collection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612996724411/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Larry _ i'm not (of course!) But my young friend Kate Goldwater is... this is kate: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Talented-People/Talented-People-Color-shots/2637896_VPuoN/1/530911812_gpBq6/Large She has never been before and is all pumped about it. Closest I've gotten to it is spending a night in Gerlach in 1988... ann -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
Doug Brewer wrote: Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan. And I agree. You should all order your own copy. If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll all be deliriously happy. Unless you don't want me to deface it. Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at www.pdml.net? If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 0DX, please. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Absolute ZEN: Stones
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Re: Leica's done with film
On 26/8/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin? The interesting bit is when the crumpet presents you with the muffin -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 26/8/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: a crumpet is more like a fat pikelet I would have said more like a piefor. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy
On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm I don't see what's controversial. Commercial photographers usually have to either have permission or pay to perform their craft if they intend to profit from using a particular location. At the end of the day it seems it's down to the laws of the land and the land itself. In the UK, we have lots of private land (obviously) but we also have lots of footpaths, bridleways and byways which cross private land. According to law, as an individual I have the right to 'pass and re- pass' one of these rights of way. The law doesn't say anything about stopping to take a photograph or film. However, the law does say that as an individual I am permitted to photograph or film from a public right of way. There is no distinction between private, commercial or any other type of photography. When I am working for TV news, I will often access a footpath across private land to get a shot of a location or building that cannot be seen from the road (which is also a public right of way). Of course I have been accosted by irate landowners over the years, but to be honest, never had a problem. Often I will try the landowner first and 9 times out of ten they will tell me to access the site directly with a warm welcome. If one of them ever tried to sue me I'd welcome the opportunity to clarify the situation in court. Anyone know of any UK test cases in this respect? As far as national parks go, I am unaware of restrictions on commercial photographers. If I was a commercial photographer, I would not be skulking about in the bushes, I would be approaching the appropriate persons for permissions and information. If you run a business and stand by your product then in my book it's all above-board. I can see complications though as highlighted by the article. Australia is a big place. Really big. I always thought it was a long way down to the chemist's. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ Angry comments are always welcome. --S Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3
Miserere wrote: It's made sense all along: http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a bang :-) --M. I'll be rooned. Already preordered the 75/1.8 M. Will absolutely have to get this one too. Local distributor is quoting 895 Aussie Gee it's good to live in this century -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
Dario Bonazza wrote: The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help: http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm Dario Superb on so many levels. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
Larry Colen wrote: With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) I went in 2006 and that was my first time really exercising my FX20, which was my first decent digital camera. I love it at night, it makes me think of what Faerie would look like if it existed. I just went through and grabbed a few of them, pretty much as they came out of the camera, I didn't have anything to do post processing, other than sizing them down, back then. You have to look for silhouettes of people to get a sense of scale of some of the art. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624692491693/ I call this one shooting the moon through the heart http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230249987/in/set-72157624692491693/ They played dance music in this sculpture pretty much continuously until they burned it on the last night: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230264779/in/set-72157624692491693/ Which is why I call this one disco inferno http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3230261569/in/set-72157624692491693/ If you're really fascinated, there are a lot more of my shots from 2006 in this collection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612996724411/ Watch out for those laser beams, Larry http://www.petapixel.com/2010/07/28/what-laser-light-can-do-to-your-precious-dslr-sensor/ -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002 Great shot. TH\hanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - Film
All 35 mm, about half of it not in boxes or cannisters, but continuously refrigerated. Some expired in 2006, some probably in 2008-9 (my last big film purchase was early in 2006, a few months before I bought an ist D). I would prefer to sell it all to one person. $25 takes all 32 rolls, including domestic US postage; PayPal or check accepted. Elite Chrome 100 (EC 36) 12 rolls Elite Chrome 100 (EC 24) 1 roll Elite Chrome 200 (ED 36) 2 rolls Elite Chrome 400 (EL 36) 7 rolls Tri-X (TX 36) 2 rolls Kodak Gold 400 (GC 36) 3 rolls Kodak Gold 200 (GB 36) 1 roll Kodak Gold 100 (GA 24) 1 roll Agfa Optima Color 24 1 roll Fujicolor 200 24 2 rolls Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy
Quite a few years ago, we visited Katmai National Park, which is the source of most images a grizzlies catching salmon by standing in the falls as they try to jump over it. There were 2 professional photographers on the float plane from King Salmon to Brooks Lodge. They both had permits. Based on the conversations I had with the one seated next to me, they weren't required to get the permit, but getting it gave them certain privileges that others didn't have. I had to set up my tripod on the photography platform overlooking the falls, where I was secure from wondering bears. The permitted pros could approach closer to the falls, and could get different angles, but could not cross over to the other side, which was were most of the bears would emerge from the woods. For the most part, the pros stayed on the platform with the rest of us, as it had the best view of the action, but if the platform got too crowded, then they could, and did, go off on their own. That was 15 years ago, and things may be quite different now. Dan On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 26/8/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm I don't see what's controversial. Commercial photographers usually have to either have permission or pay to perform their craft if they intend to profit from using a particular location. At the end of the day it seems it's down to the laws of the land and the land itself. In the UK, we have lots of private land (obviously) but we also have lots of footpaths, bridleways and byways which cross private land. According to law, as an individual I have the right to 'pass and re- pass' one of these rights of way. The law doesn't say anything about stopping to take a photograph or film. However, the law does say that as an individual I am permitted to photograph or film from a public right of way. There is no distinction between private, commercial or any other type of photography. When I am working for TV news, I will often access a footpath across private land to get a shot of a location or building that cannot be seen from the road (which is also a public right of way). Of course I have been accosted by irate landowners over the years, but to be honest, never had a problem. Often I will try the landowner first and 9 times out of ten they will tell me to access the site directly with a warm welcome. If one of them ever tried to sue me I'd welcome the opportunity to clarify the situation in court. Anyone know of any UK test cases in this respect? As far as national parks go, I am unaware of restrictions on commercial photographers. If I was a commercial photographer, I would not be skulking about in the bushes, I would be approaching the appropriate persons for permissions and information. If you run a business and stand by your product then in my book it's all above-board. I can see complications though as highlighted by the article. Australia is a big place. Really big. I always thought it was a long way down to the chemist's. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
Bruce, I clearly remember your pulling your 50+ images with the explanation, if I recall correctly, that you intended to resubmit them to determine if they would be accepted under the current standards. You may have been one who began to submit images early on and at a time, perhaps, when submission were ravenously accepted in an effort to develop a gallery. As time passed and the gallery inventory increased, standards for acceptance seemed to stiffen. It was my assumption that you wanted to test your images against the current and seemingly more stringent standards. I recall the respect and admiration, actually expressed by some, you garnered by so doing. From time to time I checked your gallery in the hope you would be pleased at the rate of re-acceptance. Haven't done so for awhile. Jack --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 9:47 PM I gave up a long time ago and pulled all my pictures off. Between the very inconsistent voting and the crazy interface it just wasn't worth the aggravation. Haven't been to the site in a long time. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, one has to be pretty well adjusted to wait out the time lag, doubtless created do to lack of interest in voting. Still, it's a healthy incentive stimulated by the challenge of having their photographic efforts find approval. The proof is in the obvious satisfaction gleefully expressed by many when announcing their work's acceptance. Jack --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 3:49 PM On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation is structured. The recommended image size is 600 pixels high. There is no stated limit on width, however. That means the images in portrait orientation are much smaller -- in both the thumbnail and the full size -- than images in landscape orientation or even square images. I think that it makes it more difficult to get a portrait image in the gallery and worse, it makes it harder to appreciate those in the gallery that are in portrait orientation and therefore quite reduced in size. Has anyone else noticed this? I think the World's gone landscape in the digital realm, the tendency towards video and wide aspect ratio monitors has left portrait orientated images as a legacy of sorts, basically suitable for print only, it's a pity. In any case I stay away from the PPG, I find the interface slow and hideous and I don't subscribe to their philosophy regarding selection, basically it's a crapshoot, if you partake you have to be tolerant of the foibles of the system. I've long since stopped pondering what will make an 'acceptable' image for the PPG. I just submit images that I like and shrug my shoulders when they're rejected I participate for the challenge but I can't imagine that anyone would ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's for that matter. That interface is simply bizzare. Waiting while the 12 generic images load before you can even look at the gallery can often take up to a minute - and once you're actually in and viewing, the rate at which images appear redefines the word 'sluggish'. If you have supersonic broadband, maybe you'd hang around for a bit but I doubt that many would. Very strange design. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to
Re: OT KBA vs LBA
ROLO? I tried that but it didn't work too well. Not enough grit, I guess. :-[ http://roogdesign.com/rolo/rolo-1.gif -p On 8/27/2010 12:09 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Chicago brand cheap carbon steel, two sets. Easy to sharpen, sharpen often with ROLO. :-) That's the way I roll, peeps! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3096 - Release Date: 08/26/10 13:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
Sasha, I'm sorry, but I've looked at this 4-5 times and still don't like it. The woman's expression is intense, but I'd never know she was at a piano without your comments. It is just too damned dark. You have to give me more than black shadows to let me see it. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ Angry comments are always welcome. --S Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
Thanks for all the comments, I wanted to see how much information is needed - some of the shadows were lost intentionality. --Sasha On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Sasha, I'm sorry, but I've looked at this 4-5 times and still don't like it. The woman's expression is intense, but I'd never know she was at a piano without your comments. It is just too damned dark. You have to give me more than black shadows to let me see it. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ Angry comments are always welcome. --S Really lovely, Sasha, especially the flare. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
You have a good memory. I did resubmit a few. I found no rhyme or reason to the decisions made. Images that had been accepted before were rejected and images that were rejected before were accepted. Sometimes a rejected image would be resubmitted and then accepted, etc. So between all that and the extremely clunky interface I finally gave up and moved on. I haven't really been back since. It has been a rather long time. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Bruce, I clearly remember your pulling your 50+ images with the explanation, if I recall correctly, that you intended to resubmit them to determine if they would be accepted under the current standards. You may have been one who began to submit images early on and at a time, perhaps, when submission were ravenously accepted in an effort to develop a gallery. As time passed and the gallery inventory increased, standards for acceptance seemed to stiffen. It was my assumption that you wanted to test your images against the current and seemingly more stringent standards. I recall the respect and admiration, actually expressed by some, you garnered by so doing. From time to time I checked your gallery in the hope you would be pleased at the rate of re-acceptance. Haven't done so for awhile. Jack --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 9:47 PM I gave up a long time ago and pulled all my pictures off. Between the very inconsistent voting and the crazy interface it just wasn't worth the aggravation. Haven't been to the site in a long time. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, one has to be pretty well adjusted to wait out the time lag, doubtless created do to lack of interest in voting. Still, it's a healthy incentive stimulated by the challenge of having their photographic efforts find approval. The proof is in the obvious satisfaction gleefully expressed by many when announcing their work's acceptance. Jack --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 3:49 PM On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:25 +1000, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2010 04:04, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation is structured. The recommended image size is 600 pixels high. There is no stated limit on width, however. That means the images in portrait orientation are much smaller -- in both the thumbnail and the full size -- than images in landscape orientation or even square images. I think that it makes it more difficult to get a portrait image in the gallery and worse, it makes it harder to appreciate those in the gallery that are in portrait orientation and therefore quite reduced in size. Has anyone else noticed this? I think the World's gone landscape in the digital realm, the tendency towards video and wide aspect ratio monitors has left portrait orientated images as a legacy of sorts, basically suitable for print only, it's a pity. In any case I stay away from the PPG, I find the interface slow and hideous and I don't subscribe to their philosophy regarding selection, basically it's a crapshoot, if you partake you have to be tolerant of the foibles of the system. I've long since stopped pondering what will make an 'acceptable' image for the PPG. I just submit images that I like and shrug my shoulders when they're rejected I participate for the challenge but I can't imagine that anyone would ever go there to view my images, or anyone else's for that matter. That interface is simply bizzare. Waiting while the 12 generic images load before you can even look at the gallery can often take up to a minute - and once you're actually in and viewing, the rate at which images appear redefines the word 'sluggish'. If you have supersonic broadband, maybe you'd hang around for a bit but I doubt that many would. Very strange design. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Visiting Sydney, Australia in September
Hi All, If nothing drastic will happen between now and then, I will be in Sydney, Australia, during the week of September 19-27. I am coming there for a scientific conference. I know that Brian Walters is in Sydney, but I also remember mentioning that there were 3 or 4 PDMLers in Sydney. So, my questions are: 1. I'd appreciate all suggestions as for what to see/visit in the city (including some local restaurants), and in close vicinity (we are planning on renting a car for 1-2 days and going to Featherdale Wildlife Park.) The conference will be held at Sydney Masonic Centre, and the hotel we reserved is within 2-3 blocks from it (in case you can recommend some restaurants there). 2. If somebody is interested in meeting (for a lunch, photowalk, to show the city, etc.), - that'd be very interesting, - please let me know (probably off the list, - and then if there are several people, - we might coordinate a mini-PDML meeting). Thank you in advance, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
Thanks Derby, I appreciate your liking. Dario - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware Dario Bonazza wrote: The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help: http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm Dario Superb on so many levels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery
Bruce Dayton wrote: You have a good memory. I did resubmit a few. I found no rhyme or reason to the decisions made. Images that had been accepted before were rejected and images that were rejected before were accepted. Sometimes a rejected image would be resubmitted and then accepted, etc. So between all that and the extremely clunky interface I finally gave up and moved on. I haven't really been back since. It has been a rather long time. Ditto. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
Larry Colen (Droid Mail) wrote: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Larry _ i'm not (of course!) I don't know if that's of course. I think you could have a lot of fun there. But my young friend Kate Goldwater is... Any relation? Not at all - and she is way, way in the other direction politically :-) brief story follows: Kate owns the store across the street from me that is called AuH2O... (she sells here designs and vintage stuff) when she first opened it back in 2006 I walked in and asked that question. She liked that I knew that I knew what it meant not many, it appears, had a clue. As to _my_ having fun at Burning Man ? - n not my idea of fun at all -- ( I can see a few friends here chuckling) . In fact- I wouldn't have even liked it when I was still able to pack 25 lbs up a mountain and still get down on my knees to crawl into a tent. Anyway - Don't step on the cryptogamic soil and stay hydrated - will look forward to photos :-) ann this is kate: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Talented-People/Talented-People-Color-shots/2637896_VPuoN/1/530911812_gpBq6/Large Nice picture, lovely subject. She has never been before and is all pumped about it. I can imagine. Does she have a bunch of burner friends? Closest I've gotten to it is spending a night in Gerlach in 1988... ...spent a week there one night. I've had lunch in fernley. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?
Oh, hell no. On 8/23/2010 7:58 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open-20100823-13inx.html regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?
Well, he'd be a triclops. On 8/24/2010 4:55 AM, eckinator wrote: what do we call you then? CycBob? 2010/8/24 Bob Wp...@web-options.com: no, but I'm considering having a special new socket dug in the middle of my forehead http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open- 20100823-13inx.html regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
Bob W wrote: Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK. I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I might have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth to repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure). Ahem, Rotherhithe, actually. I cycle past this place when I go into town: http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/06/28/coast05walks_st age6. shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/panoramas/coast05_point6mayflower_3 60.sh tml looks like everywhere wants to take the credit for cleansing the ethne of those ancient Taliban. Ahem back! They set out from Rotherhithe to Southampton. There they met the Speedwell and were supposed to sail for the New World from there. It was the lousy crew on the Speedwell who scuppered everything - allegedly by purposely springing a leak so they wouldn't have to undertake the voyage - and thence back to Plymouth for repairs. So Plymouth claims the final port of departure. The Titanic was also pinched from Southampton - there was a late decision to stop and pick up some passengers from Cherbourg and then Cookstown in Ireland so all three claim that the Titanic sailed from them for her first and only voyage. Most of the crew who perished were Sotonians though. I'll stop now. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
I thought that Queenstown, now called Cobh again, was the Irish port of departure for the Titanic. They have a nice Titanic Museum there. Dan The Titanic was also pinched from Southampton - there was a late decision to stop and pick up some passengers from Cherbourg and then Cookstown in Ireland so all three claim that the Titanic sailed from them for her first and only voyage. Most of the crew who perished were Sotonians though. I'll stop now. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back on your degree. On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid. The Brits, however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West. If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90 years. That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much more suffering than they purport to prevent. Dan -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Kind of salty actually... Wait I thought you meant... Kind of dry actually... On 8/25/2010 12:22 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever had them without honey? -Original Message- From: David Savageozsav...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:47:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Leica's done with film On 25 August 2010 22:40, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid. The Brits, however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West. If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90 years. That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much more suffering than they purport to prevent. It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go with their crumpets. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Anybody else going to burning man?
With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
Doug Brewer wrote: Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan. And I agree. You should all order your own copy. If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll all be deliriously happy. Unless you don't want me to deface it. Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at www.pdml.net? If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 0DX, please. if that's going to work then you can get me one, Mike, and I'll come up in person to collect it and pay for it. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back on your degree. Mark! On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid. The Brits, however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West. If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90 years. That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much more suffering than they purport to prevent. Dan -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back on your degree. Dan has a little bit of a chip on his shoulder about the British for some reason. But we don't mind that, we just smile condescendingly and kick another native. Bob On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid. The Brits, however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West. If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90 years. That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much more suffering than they purport to prevent. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw Great work Mike - I love the way you got the pond to shimmer! pay attention - you could learn a few things -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?
I don't think so. The 'cycl-' in cyclops refers to the shape of the eye, not to the number of eyes. 'cycl-' meaning round, as in, er, cycle. To talk about someone with 3 eyes you'd be more likely to refer to them as a triops. Dioptic Bob Well, he'd be a triclops. On 8/24/2010 4:55 AM, eckinator wrote: what do we call you then? CycBob? 2010/8/24 Bob Wp...@web-options.com: no, but I'm considering having a special new socket dug in the middle of my forehead http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/eye-wired-open- 20100823-13inx.html regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom at one-third the price?
On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Yes, volume license deals are legal. But they're a hassle sold by people I don't trust. I trust doing business with Adobe, Lightroom is worth $300 to me. Just thought I'd let you know how this worked out for me. I was alerted to this option by a member of this list. http://www.academicsuperstore.com/ Their website included a 501(c)3 from a nonprofit on their list of acceptable documentation of eligibility for their discounts. After I placed my order, however, they informed me that Adobe software required evidence of an academic affiliation. Later I got a note from them asking I've I'd be interested in a quote for a nonprofit organization. Of course I said I was, and earlier today got an offer of $96.95 for the license and $19.25 for a set of installation disks. Not quite as good as the academic discount, but plenty good enough for me. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica's done with film
a crumpet is more like a fat pikelet I would have said more like a piefor. that would be to die for -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Odd K-x behaviour
On 8/26/2010 3:48 PM, Bob W wrote: yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to someone else to view. From their puzzled look, something was wrong. Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of varying thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed with dashed black lines one or two pixels thick. More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the on/off switch. Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after about three seconds) and everything returned to normal. No recurrence. So far. I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others I have fondled. Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what occured. Anyone else have an idea? you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped. B Which may very well be true, but it doesn't explain the cameras behavior. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
I have nothing to say, they're disgustingly competent. On 8/25/2010 10:10 PM, paul stenquist wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Paul -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Sent: 27 August 2010 18:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK I thought that Queenstown, now called Cobh again, was the Irish port of departure for the Titanic. They have a nice Titanic Museum there. Dan Yes, it's Queenstown. Cookstown came in up relation to work this afternoon and I got it into my head... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
Bob W wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan. And I agree. You should all order your own copy. If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll all be deliriously happy. Unless you don't want me to deface it. Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at www.pdml.net? If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 0DX, please. if that's going to work then you can get me one, Mike, and I'll come up in person to collect it and pay for it. Anyone else? Doug? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
On 2010-08-22 23:37 , Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ i can tell what it is, but i think it would be more interesting from an angle (up? down?) where the shape of the piano could be discerned, especially if you could see some of the curves, echoing the other curves -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an ad hominem attack. I therefore feel it best if I do not respond. Dan On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know who taught you the bull crap but you should get the money back on your degree. On 8/25/2010 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid. The Brits, however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West. If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90 years. That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much more suffering than they purport to prevent. Dan -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an ad hominem attack. I therefore feel it best if I do not respond. I'd like to apologise if I may. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Accepted. Let's be friends, but avoid this subject. Dan On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm sorry you are unable to discuss the issues without resorting to an ad hominem attack. I therefore feel it best if I do not respond. I'd like to apologise if I may. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 27/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: Accepted. Let's be friends, but avoid this subject. Hang on mate - I didn't do anything wrong, I'm just apologising ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Derby Chang wrote: Watch out for those laser beams, Larry http://www.petapixel.com/2010/07/28/what-laser-light-can-do-to-your-precious-dslr-sensor/ Good warning. It was my experience that the sensors were aimed high enough so as not to shine on people, in their eyes etc. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Bob W wrote: With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then? No I haven't. Is it worth the trip? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A local retailer has the Pentax-F 17-28 fisheye for $300. But then I found this for much less http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*store=1levels=003100 730214sti= Is one under-priced? It's a tempting lens. mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 27 Aug 2010, at 21:16, Cotty discombobulated: Accepted. Let's be friends, but avoid this subject. Hang on mate - I didn't do anything wrong, I'm just apologising ;-) ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pisstakes -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ Ah, the fun we have. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17-28mm fisheye
On Aug 27, 2010, at 16:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: A local retailer has the Pentax-F 17-28 fisheye for $300. But then I found this for much less http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*store=1levels=003100 730214sti= Is one under-priced? It's a tempting lens. If you're shooting digital, you will probably find that a 17mm fisheye is disappointingly normal with some bendy lines-looking. I had the Zenitar 16mm fisheye for years, but almost never used it on my ist-DS because it wasn't fisheye enough if you get my meaning. Film would be another subject altogether... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody else going to burning man?
Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Bob W wrote: With the dust, people tend to wear dust masks or bandanas, which makes Black Rock City probably the only city where you are more likely to see a woman's breasts than her face. :-) you've never been to a whorehouse in Riyadh then? No I haven't. Is it worth the trip? It'll cost you an arm and a leg. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
From: Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale? :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. P On 28 Aug 2010, at 00:10, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale? :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net pauldunderd...@mac.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunders/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK
Hey Miserere: I like the gallery, very nice. I really like this one: http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1884-small.jpg but the whole gallery is very nice. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:50 AM Subject: RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK Miserere wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a jet-lagged walk around Southampton: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung- nx10-and-30mm-f2/ You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2 -- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got. CC welcome, of course. Cheers, --M. Interesting and a good gallery of a visit to a town in the UK. I was brought up in Southampton and tried to place the shots. Think I might have seen the base of the Mayflower memorial in one of them (the Pilgrim Fathers originally set out from Southampton, but had to call in a Plymouth to repair a leak so Plymouth claims port of departure). I particularly like the one of the 2 people in the park. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
What Derby said. That's a very intriguing picture, Dario. The guy's expression is kind of creepy, but in a funny way. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware Thanks Derby, I appreciate your liking. Dario - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware Dario Bonazza wrote: The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help: http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm Dario Superb on so many levels. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote: A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). Ah. A Lehrer fan. You'll get on well here Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. P On 28 Aug 2010, at 00:10, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net Hey, when did this list get a Dunderdale? :-) Cheers, Christine -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?
2010/8/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't think so. The 'cycl-' in cyclops refers to the shape of the eye, not to the number of eyes. 'cycl-' meaning round, as in, er, cycle. To talk about someone with 3 eyes you'd be more likely to refer to them as a triops. Dioptic Bob how bout Binocular Bob then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote: A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). Ah. A Lehrer fan. You'll get on well here Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one of these days. My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: lurk. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
Larry Colen wrote: On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:14 +0100, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote: A couple of years ago: I took months to figure that I couldn't post in RTF, then I figured that I had nothing much to say. And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). Ah. A Lehrer fan. You'll get on well here A friend of Godfrey's, lurking and learning. Better yet, a man that knows how to lurk. A skill that I need to acquire one of these days. My old usenet haunt (alt.peeves) had a one word faq: lurk. Whay wasn't there ever an newsgroup called alt.lurk? That woulda been cool. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 17-28 fisheye (was [No Subject])
Colin, If you provide a subject line, you'll get more responses. Buying the 17-28 would be good if (1) you shoot film, or (2) you are sure that Pentax is going to produce a camera with a 35mm format sensor. The 17-28 fits the Pentax digital bodies nicely, but doesn't provide much fisheye effect--it becomes the 35mm equivalent of 25-42mm. As for the merchant... Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 8/27/10, coll...@brendemuehl.net coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: From: coll...@brendemuehl.net coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:50 PM A local retailer has the Pentax-F 17-28 fisheye for $300. But then I found this for much less http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*store=1levels=003100 730214sti= Is one under-priced? It's a tempting lens. mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones
Very Zennish. Thank you. I needed that! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net wrote: From: Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net Subject: Absolute ZEN: Stones To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 3:39 AM http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Lawn Ornament
Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit on the grass for a day or two the lawn might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times). Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - At the Water
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:02 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice. A very peaceful feel. Thanks, Dave. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Color version for me too... Thanks, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented. Glad you liked it. I think I prefer the colour, too. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: The day was hot in Obuda island, and some spray could help: http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc27e.htm Brilliant!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: The first 47 pics are new this year. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960 Runs the gamut from my favourite car of all time (AH Bugeye Sprite) to the ugliest car ever made (AMC Pacer). Terrific gallery, Paul! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - piano
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/ Angry comments are always welcome. I like it, even though I can't tell it's a piano. Wonderful mood, intriguing composition. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing
mike wilson wrote: Doug Brewer wrote: Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan. And I agree. You should all order your own copy. If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll all be deliriously happy. Unless you don't want me to deface it. Can we do that without a PP account via the donate button at www.pdml.net? If so, send me a number for delivery to UK postcode NE38 0DX, please. yeah, I =think= you can, by just using a credit card, but I don't know how it works internationally. If anyone on list has experience with this, please advise. Looking at shipping rates from the USPS, UPS and Fedex, USPS looks cheapest. First class international mail for two books would be right around twenty bucks. So, figure whichever version of the book(s) you want, add 6.99 to get to me, then another twenty to get to you. If anyone else in your area wants one, I can probably package a few more for not much more money. Thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/ There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO. That's a terrific photo! As an aside, I was taking photos at a similar type of fountain we have here in Toronto (Dundas Square, FWIW) and someone came up to me and asked if I'd asked permission of the parents of the kids. I nicely informed her that I didn't need to do that, and in any event I was not up to no good. She started to argue with me so I walked away. Wasn't worth the hassle. The place is usually crawling with security guards and I didn't want to have to deal with one of those wallies. But, your photo's a real gem. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First Photo
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @ http://smhalpin.posterous.com In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent shot: http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure this group will appreciate the content nevertheless. Technical problems? I don't see any. I see terrific light, a sharp Frederick, nicely blurred Meg (dynamic element) and a wonderfully composed Pentax moment. What more could we ask for? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Absolute ZEN: Stones
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100827103002 Wonderful. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 17-28 fisheye
Rick I did use a subject line. But I made the mistake of putting a ? instead of the word Question. I think it got stripped for an illegal character. Others, Thanks for your thoughts. I did put it on a K-X and saw the same shortcoming. It's nice 17-20, but beyond 20mm it seems not unique enough. myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Lawn Ornament
Looks like it's being used to stake up a sapling.(?) Brings back tiring memories. Especially when they're dull and rusty. ;) Jack --- On Fri, 8/27/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - The Lawn Ornament To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 7:24 PM Perhaps they were thinking that by bringing it out and letting it sit on the grass for a day or two the lawn might be less traumatized when it starts the actual mowing process: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/lawn-ornament.html I just thought it looked kind of cool - you don't see those manual lawn mowers very often these days (although I think they may be making a bit of a come-back in these environmentally sensitive times). Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica's done with film
On 2010-08-27 19:14, Paul Dunderdale wrote: And if a man has nothing to say, the very least he can do is to *shut up* (Lehrer). A lesson lost in the murkiness of American history, though it was one of the bases of our society. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: F 17-28mm (a different view)
Remarkable. This lens is rarely mentioned, and yet your email is immediately beside the one in my inbox in which I (tearfully) confirm the shipping of my beloved 17-28mm lens. I will respectfully disagree with Mr. Robinson, but then my tastes do not normally go to enjoying the extreme fisheye effect. We also don't know from your post whether you intend to use this on a Pentax DSLR or film camera (or both). I used mine only on Digital and loved it. Some examples of what can be done with it and the way it gives you just slightly skewed results (unlike any other lens) can be found in my ad (now in the sold section on PF): RESENDING to list, since I forgot to send the original plain text. http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/sold-items/110985-sale-%5Bsold%5D-pentax-f-17-28mm-fisheye-zoom-pentax-original-worldwide.html Regarding: http://www.tristatecamera.com/lookat.php?sku=PENF1728*store=1levels=003100 730214sti= They are one of the many less-than-upup photo dealers. I would just about guarantee that if you purchase this one you eventually find that they either do not have it anymore (it hasn't been made for many years) or is a used one that's condition does not match the photo accompanying the ad. If it does, then $179 is a steal... but I fear it is they that is going to be the thief with this lens. Also, the 17-28mm on a full frame (35mm) camera has an equiv. for the Pentax DSLR of today: The DA 10-17mm. However, owning that lens is still not the same as the subtler lines that the F 17-28mm will give you on your DSLR. Were it not for my current financial situation, it would still be in my kit. I hope to have one again in the future. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
