Re: yet another peso
On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5163561062/lightbox Nevada Museum of Art (very cool building, mostly awful modern art inside). I would love hear your fruitful critique and angry comments :) I like it. It's an interesting composition, and good use of tones. My hunch is that I'd like it better if the building in the background weren't centered. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photos of trips with Walter
Thanks Ted and Walter. You sure had one heck of a vacation full of wonderful photo opportunities that you captured with style. Evocative and fascinating imagery, especially the Picher series. Made me think about Chernobyl although the circumstances are different between these two towns... Boris On 11/15/2010 12:24 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I started to post the photos I took to Flickr, but quickly grew annoyed at the fact that it was taking forever to get them all uploaded (and that I've exceeded my 200-photo limit!!!). So, I went ahead and put together a couple of blog posts with some of the images I took on our treks out into the NW Arkansas and NE Oklahoma hinterlands. After looking at Ted's shots, I must say I'm submitting these humbly, and only because it would be unseemly not to do so. It seems Ted was wise enough to take time to create good photography, whereas I took a rather scatter-shot approach -- taking pictures of everything that moved, and didn't move. If I learned anything from our trips, it's the old maxim, Slow and steady wins the race. RAW vs. jpeg. Bracketed vs. single exposure. Tripod vs. handheld. My hat is off to you, Mr. Beilby. You gave me quite a tutorial, whether you intended to or not. :-) http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/picher-oklahoma-americas-newest-ghost-town http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/scenes-from-northwest-arkansas Comments and critiques are, of course, welcome. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/14/2010 12:48 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: I know some of you hate Flickr but I decided to use it because of putting around fifty shots online. I divided them into different locations and put them into a collection: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/collections/72157625264533489/ Comments are welcomed, We went to: Boxley Valley Nature Area, Steel Creek Campground, Lost Valley Campground, and War Eagle Mill on Wednesday. On Friday, we drove to Pitcher, Oklahoma. I hope you enjoy. Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Santiago lights
Being three photographs of Santiago de Chile from on top of a hotel: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/11/16/Santiago-Lights Santiago is oddly graceful. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For the truly cheep.
Thanks Peter. I have downloaded it just in case. My main computer runs Windows XP, but I have a backup computer with Win 2000 and that DLL might be useful. Carlos El 16/11/2010 22:13, P. J. Alling escribió: I thought I'd share this for anyone who really doesn't like being forced to upgrade. As some may know, I'm still using Win2K on my primary computer. This means I can't use Adobe Lightroom, as a raw converter, though I really don't like it's taking over every aspect of photo management. Now this hasn't bothered me too much as the new Pentax Camera Utility 4 has a much improved user interface, (even though I find it's batch capabilities inferior to RawShooter), but hell it's free. Well, not free exactly. You pay for the license when you buy the camera it's sort of Free). Well the latest upgrade which supposedly included some processing enhancements no longer ran under Win2K. Though it no longer needs an original CD to install, (Pentax giveth, Pentax taketh away). The actual error when attempting to run the application was Cannot find 'UxTheme.dll' with a system path that included /winnt/system32. UXTheme.dll is a WinXp and later OS file that is redraws controls, (doesn't MS ever get tired of screwing up their OS). Well I couldn't let that stand. I mean really The damned software installs it should run! I was able to find a cross compiled version of that DLL originally written for Wine, (a linex Windows emulator), which seems to allow the latest version of PCU4 to run on Win2K. I haven't noticed any major improvement in performance, but some of the dialogs now display better. I'll either be complaining bitterly and reverting to the previous version of the PCU4 or not mention it again and just happily use the improved version. I guess this should stand me in good stead as the latest version of PCU4 supports the K-5 if I have no further problems. The upshot of this is if anyone would like fix, I'll be happy to put a text file with instructions and copies of the necessary files in a dropbox folder. Se certifico que el correo entrante no contiene virus. Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.es Version: 9.0.869 / Base de datos de virus: 271.1.1/3259 - Fecha de la version: 11/15/10 20:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's my Pentax lucky streak again
On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 17 November 2010 14:45, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Remind me not to have you buy any cameras for me. Paul should buy them for him? I have had good luck with my six Pentax DSLR cameras. I did have to return a lens however -- my first DA* 16-50 had a misaligned focus field. Paul -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax photo gallery
Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rochester Report
mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Interesting stuff. The area I'm interested in, making large negatives from digital for platinum printing, wasn't covered specifically but they referred me to good sources for more information Care to share? The book they recommend is Making Digital Negatives for Contact Printing by Dan Burkholder. I'm going to get a copy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax photo gallery
No but maybe this explains all my safari photos being rejected ]=) 2010/11/17 Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com: Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax photo gallery
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 06:14 -0600, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! Persistence pays off! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. I haven't tried Safari but I had lots of trouble uploading images with Firefox until about 3 months ago. I'd often get a message that the file was too large, yet the same file would load OK in IE. For whatever reason, this problem seems to have been resolved. Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Blue and Red
And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - perfect pizza
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I agree. Cheese is several steps removed from the animal. And cows, goats and water buffalo are more than willing to give up their milk. And what about cheese made from human breast milk? Can vegans consume that? If not, can a vegan child breast feed? So many questions, so few answers. But I know that while I could probably give up meat if someone held a gun to my head, I would never sacrifice cheese. Pull the trigger, and put me out of my misery. ++ I really didn't mean to get into this discussion, but I'll answer a few of your points: I can't speak for all vegans, but for me it's an issue of consent and exploitation. We don't ask cows, goats, etc. if they're okay with us taking their milk, and if they're answering, we can't tell. We just take it. whether they like it or not. Willing to give up their milk? What makes you say that? We keep them in a permanent state of artificial pregnancy so they never dry up. That can't be much fun. Human mothers who breast feed consent to the procedure. If they don't, they buy formula. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - perfect pizza
An observation: My daughter is in the Peace Corps in Benin. She gets to see a more traditional version of husbandry than the first world assembly bovine assembly line. Most of the milk there is from goats. The goats are protected and given safe space in which to feed. There sit on Tracie's porch and on occasion she found one sleeping in here bed. It would be no big deal to run away and they don't. Given the lack of speech, this is the best you can do for consent. Of course, the locals cheerfully kill these animals for dinner when needed. This is not a moral issue for them, just the food chain. Over here in North America, the whole process is so industrialized that it's hard for most of us to see this as any part of nature. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I agree. Cheese is several steps removed from the animal. And cows, goats and water buffalo are more than willing to give up their milk. And what about cheese made from human breast milk? Can vegans consume that? If not, can a vegan child breast feed? So many questions, so few answers. But I know that while I could probably give up meat if someone held a gun to my head, I would never sacrifice cheese. Pull the trigger, and put me out of my misery. ++ I really didn't mean to get into this discussion, but I'll answer a few of your points: I can't speak for all vegans, but for me it's an issue of consent and exploitation. We don't ask cows, goats, etc. if they're okay with us taking their milk, and if they're answering, we can't tell. We just take it. whether they like it or not. Willing to give up their milk? What makes you say that? We keep them in a permanent state of artificial pregnancy so they never dry up. That can't be much fun. Human mothers who breast feed consent to the procedure. If they don't, they buy formula. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Attn Ted Beilby (Boris Liberman)
Reply sent off list Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax photo gallery
Congratulations, Nick! I loved that pic when you posted it! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 6:14 AM, Nick David Wright wrote: Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Yellowbook
Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Thanks, Steve. The Goddernator would have made a good title. Wish I'd thought of it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The Goddernator. Neat shot. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another interesting write up about 645D
On 17 November 2010 02:16, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: However, the last time I checked, my name wasn't Ned, and nobody at Pentax has asked me how to sell their gear. Larry, I don't think Ned has too much say in what lenses get made and which don't. You should try being Ko Torigoe instead :-) I do agree on your sales strategy...except I would discount the K-5 more than $100. If they could manage to slash the price $115 over last weekend, surely they can come down by $200 after Thanksgiving. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Santiago lights
On 17 November 2010 03:55, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Being three photographs of Santiago de Chile from on top of a hotel: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/11/16/Santiago-Lights Santiago is oddly graceful. -T Santiago (de Chile), a city I'd love to visit... Thanks for letting me know where NOT to stay, Tim :-) Did you take any photographs at ground level? I'd be more interested in those. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another peso
Sasha, Remindes me of those 'mostly awful modern art inside.' The blank canvas doesn't really do anything for me. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5163561062/lightbox Nevada Museum of Art (very cool building, mostly awful modern art inside). I would love hear your fruitful critique and angry comments :) --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
Frank, Not gritty enough for you. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:32 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
There's some kind of essential sadness you've captured in that simple shot. On 11/17/2010 7:32 AM, frank theriault wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
It's the emptiness of the beer. :-( -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 8:52 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: There's some kind of essential sadness you've captured in that simple shot. On 11/17/2010 7:32 AM, frank theriault wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- East River (Fall 2010)
That's fine with me. On 11/17/2010 1:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I hate you, ok? Boris On 11/16/2010 7:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastriver2010.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
They spoiled the beautiful picture... On 11/17/2010 3:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
Needs more snow. Dave On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:32 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO today's mushroom picture
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep asking myself how many mushroom pictures do I need? 1 more than you already have. I was working in the yard this afternoon and got distracted by playing with my camera again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set-72157625405200292/ Very good. I love the composition here. Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - perfect pizza
No predator asks permission of the prey, On 11/17/2010 7:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I agree. Cheese is several steps removed from the animal. And cows, goats and water buffalo are more than willing to give up their milk. And what about cheese made from human breast milk? Can vegans consume that? If not, can a vegan child breast feed? So many questions, so few answers. But I know that while I could probably give up meat if someone held a gun to my head, I would never sacrifice cheese. Pull the trigger, and put me out of my misery. ++ I really didn't mean to get into this discussion, but I'll answer a few of your points: I can't speak for all vegans, but for me it's an issue of consent and exploitation. We don't ask cows, goats, etc. if they're okay with us taking their milk, and if they're answering, we can't tell. We just take it. whether they like it or not. Willing to give up their milk? What makes you say that? We keep them in a permanent state of artificial pregnancy so they never dry up. That can't be much fun. Human mothers who breast feed consent to the procedure. If they don't, they buy formula. cheers, frank -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
I know! It's a study in tacky! I expected this, so it doesn't either surprise or bother me. IOW, I'm a free advertising whore. Thanks, Boris! Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:03 AM They spoiled the beautiful picture... On 11/17/2010 3:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: clouds in the french Alps
hi everyone i'm back from three months caring for my 91 old aunty who lost her husband in august after he spent a whole month in hospital ... never again! I never thought caring for an old person would be so trying . she was as happy to see me off as I was to go home at last . it took some time to make sure she could cope by herself with various helpers . We were staying in Laffrey near Grenoble in the French Alps . the weather wasn't too good so I had lots of cloudy skies to shoot ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184744458/ and another view near Grenoble in the afternoon . I think it's Belledonne mountains in the distance but i'm not that sure .. http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184144637/ all comments welcome dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT I;m such a friggin idiot
I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Sam Abell thread (1)
I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO today's mushroom picture
Good one, Larry! I think the larger grouping on the left would, also, make a nice shot on its own. Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO today's mushroom picture To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:09 AM On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep asking myself how many mushroom pictures do I need? 1 more than you already have. I was working in the yard this afternoon and got distracted by playing with my camera again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set-72157625405200292/ Very good. I love the composition here. Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
The support room in the company I worked previously had a big sign with *Shift happens* printed really large on it. Seriously - without disrespect, I have to suggest you redo the calendar... Boris On 11/17/2010 5:14 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Yeah, I agree. You'll sting from the extra $120 for the rest of your natural life and never again make a mistake. It's your punishment. :( It's, also, something I would have easily done. Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:18 AM The support room in the company I worked previously had a big sign with *Shift happens* printed really large on it. Seriously - without disrespect, I have to suggest you redo the calendar... Boris On 11/17/2010 5:14 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: clouds in the french Alps
Both with strong moods very well rendered. You're a good niece/nephew(?) for stepping up when you saw the need. Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Madame RD romd...@orange.fr wrote: From: Madame RD romd...@orange.fr Subject: PESO: clouds in the french Alps To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:13 AM hi everyone i'm back from three months caring for my 91 old aunty who lost her husband in august after he spent a whole month in hospital ... never again! I never thought caring for an old person would be so trying . she was as happy to see me off as I was to go home at last . it took some time to make sure she could cope by herself with various helpers . We were staying in Laffrey near Grenoble in the French Alps . the weather wasn't too good so I had lots of cloudy skies to shoot ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184744458/ and another view near Grenoble in the afternoon . I think it's Belledonne mountains in the distance but i'm not that sure .. http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184144637/ all comments welcome dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
I agree - redo it. It will make them twice as valuable as gifts and you won't forever regret having given a flawed gift. But, DO have someone else PFOOF the text before resubmitting! ;-) stan On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: clouds in the french Alps
Le 17/11/10 16:28, Jack Davis a écrit : You're a good niece/nephew(?) for stepping up when you saw the need. niece ... she's my mother's sister and they were very close so I couldn't let her down . she was lucky i was only three months from retirement and not much needed at work ... dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Stan is wright... He's definitely not wleft /wink wink nod nod/. On 11/17/2010 5:53 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I agree - redo it. It will make them twice as valuable as gifts and you won't forever regret having given a flawed gift. But, DO have someone else *PFOOF* the text before resubmitting! ;-) stan On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
There's a reason why publishers print a Proof copy first... On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another peso
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Remindes me of those 'mostly awful modern art inside.' The blank canvas doesn't really do anything for me. Regards, Bob S. Bob S. took my comment. As far as fruitful commentary is concerned, before clicking the link I was hoping to go bananas. On the bright side, when I say I really like something you will know I'm being sincere. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Dave, Find some of that white correction tape that you type on and past over your errors. It's 2 wrong dates in 365. Save the money and throw them a party! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:14 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
And the photo credit appears WHERE? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 9:53 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: I agree - redo it. It will make them twice as valuable as gifts and you won't forever regret having given a flawed gift. But, DO have someone else PFOOF the text before resubmitting! ;-) stan On Nov 17, 2010, at 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I decided to make 6 family calendars featuring 4 pictures from the three family weddings that occured in 2010. I spent almost two hours loading, aligning, moving and adding family dates, and proofing.. The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. My daughter suggested to redo them, but then i have $120 worth of junk of i do. Liz said don't worry, they probably won't notice anyway. I really don't want to spend another $120. Comments. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Five bucks
I've got my latest Blurb book project converted into EPUB format for e-book readers. It's been an interesting experience. Anyway, the electronic book form is now available on my web site for five dollars U.S. (through Pay Pal). http://www.robertstech.com/ebooks.htm Interestingly, my gross profit on the print book (at $30.00) is less than $4.00. Gross profit on the e-book at $5.00 is... $5.00. BTW: This e-book format is compatible with a variety of desktop and smartphone reader software and all dedicated e-book readers *except* the Amazon Kindle. Seems Amazon is the only one (including even Apple) who refuses to support the open standard. But since the Kindle isn't yet available with a color screen, I decided this isn't a major target for a book of mostly color photography. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. I realize that you are joking here, but I would posit that, for a good photographer, location or subject matter is never an adequate excuse for achieving a great image. Put another way, it is one's eye that determines how interesting or exotic ones photographic territory (or subject) is. Thanks for the link! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Five bucks
On 17 November 2010 11:14, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I've got my latest Blurb book project converted into EPUB format for e-book readers. It's been an interesting experience. Anyway, the electronic book form is now available on my web site for five dollars U.S. (through Pay Pal). http://www.robertstech.com/ebooks.htm Interestingly, my gross profit on the print book (at $30.00) is less than $4.00. Gross profit on the e-book at $5.00 is... $5.00. BTW: This e-book format is compatible with a variety of desktop and smartphone reader software and all dedicated e-book readers *except* the Amazon Kindle. Seems Amazon is the only one (including even Apple) who refuses to support the open standard. But since the Kindle isn't yet available with a color screen, I decided this isn't a major target for a book of mostly color photography. ;-) What about those of us who would be reading it on our computers, what program do we need to read it? And why isn't PDF the standard? —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Five bucks
Miserere wrote: On 17 November 2010 11:14, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I've got my latest Blurb book project converted into EPUB format for e-book readers. It's been an interesting experience. Anyway, the electronic book form is now available on my web site for five dollars U.S. (through Pay Pal). http://www.robertstech.com/ebooks.htm Interestingly, my gross profit on the print book (at $30.00) is less than $4.00. Gross profit on the e-book at $5.00 is... $5.00. BTW: This e-book format is compatible with a variety of desktop and smartphone reader software and all dedicated e-book readers *except* the Amazon Kindle. Seems Amazon is the only one (including even Apple) who refuses to support the open standard. But since the Kindle isn't yet available with a color screen, I decided this isn't a major target for a book of mostly color photography. ;-) What about those of us who would be reading it on our computers, what program do we need to read it? And why isn't PDF the standard? To read on screen you need one of these (all are free): Adobe Digital Editions (for desktop and laptop computers) Lexcycle Stanza (for desktop and laptop computers) EPUB Reader (plug-in for the Firefox web browser) PDF is the standard for print, but should *never* be used for on-screen reading because, as a print format, it's designed to do page layout, which doesn't work well when you can't control the size of the user's page (reading device). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
I'd use this current set. Just issue an Errata sheet with each calendar. Do a color one with a funny picture. It will be memorable. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Better title: The Goddernator Stalks it's Prey On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Steve. The Goddernator would have made a good title. Wish I'd thought of it. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/16/2010 10:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The Goddernator. Neat shot. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
This is what they term a preliminary mock copy for my info. As I mentioned, Darren, my bio will appear inside the front cover. They offered me as much space as I wanted, but I only asked for my name and website address. When asked, they told that the book will be delivered sometime either in Dec or early Jan. Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: From: CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 8:04 AM And the photo credit appears WHERE? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Hey. I've been looking for that trike . . . On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
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You and my great niece. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:40 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Hey. I've been looking for that trike . . . On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.comwrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a moron. :) Sam also has some quotes that are worth of discussion, or at least consideration. One that I particularly like is: It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. Thoughts? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have previously mentioned the movie Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. One subplot is that out plucky reporter has a camera with one shot left. As the story gets stranger and stranger, she has to decide at what point to use the shot. My favorite line goes something like All the animals of the world being loaded two by two into a giant rocket and you're going to wait for something better? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Hey. I've been looking for that trike . . . On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ http://polipix.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM, CheekyGeekcheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to try something, and if it goes well perhaps it will provide a new sort of PDML thread for members to start periodically. Conversations will, no doubt, evolve like wheel spokes off of a central topic (hub), but I'd like this threads hub to be National Geographic photographer Sam Abell. I think there may be multiple pieces of my commentary (below) that you may have different reactions to. I look forward to the discussions that will hopefully ensue. My son-in-law, Ryan McGinnis ( http://www.bigstormpicture.com; http://www.bigstormpicture.com/blog ) and I drove to Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska a couple of weeks ago to see a presentation by Mr. Sam Abell (sponsored by Canon). Now this is not going to be a worshipful thread (by any means) at least not from me. Maybe I'm a harsh critic, or maybe I just had my expectations set too high, but I did not see as many photographs in his presentation that I said to myself, WoW. I wish I had taken THAT. That surprised me. Perhaps it was simply his choice of images for this presentation, because when I look at this page ( http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-abell-national-geographic-stylist.html ) I see a lot of images that I wish I had taken. Only three images on that particular page were included in his 2 hour presentation. What Mr. Abell's presentation and work DID do, however, is stimulate some thinking on my part (which is always good, in my book). As a National Geographic photographer, Mr. Abell has been sent to some of the really interesting places on earth to photograph really interesting subjects that most of us will never get the chance to photograph. It seems to me that there is a spectrum of subjects: Nominally very uninteresting to nominally very interesting. And there is also a spectrum of photographic images: Nominally uninteresting to nominally very interesting. The two spectrums are independent of each other, or perhaps interdependent - depending upon the skill (or luck) of the photographer. Obviously, this is highly subjective. But when I look at a photograph I sometimes ask myself: Is this a great image of what could otherwise be an uninteresting subject, or is this an average image of a very interesting subject? One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg ( http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? On the other hand, consider this image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FNndI0BvPNA/S7AXaamrd8I/BLA/HNtibpofTPA/s400/Abell7.jpg ( http://bit.ly/cU3pDu ) At his presentation, he included a farther away image. There are a lot of different groups in this branding scene that the photographer had to choose from. He made conscious decisions (which group to focus on, how close to get, framing, etc.) and then he had to have the timing to capture the image when elements converged at an interesting fraction of a second. This is an incredible image and one he says for which other photographers wish to trade him prints (the ultimate compliment). Yes, it is interesting subject matter, but it could be treated in a pedestrian way, which this image is not. While still subjective, I might argue that this is an EMPIRICALLY great photograph - in other words: If you are in the minority that don't think so, you are a
PESO: more clouds from the french alps and an unusual diner .....
the colours were incredible ... I'd never seen anything like this . I wondered about cropping the bottom of the picture but decided against it .. I felt it emphasized the sheer size of the cloud http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/#/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/lightbox/ had a go at the garden too http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/#/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/lightbox/ dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. Wow, Kenny! That's a great photograph! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think he simply points out there are different reasons why a picture is considered great. More to the point, some expect of the shot (location, subject, technique, composition, etc) has to be great, not necessarily all of them. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:43 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I picked up on that. Could be I need batteries for my Sarcastoblaster and Ironichron. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:43 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:44:50 -0500 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Sam Abell thread (1) Message-ID: aanlktikp0_knsoqyt=1069agc6ca4uhg-rgm=taru...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have previously mentioned the movie Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. One subplot is that out plucky reporter has a camera with one shot left. As the story gets stranger and stranger, she has to decide at what point to use the shot. My favorite line goes something like All the animals of the world being loaded two by two into a giant rocket and you're going to wait for something better? I love that movie. Right alongside Galaxy Quest for a fun time. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
We need a better sarcasm emoticon. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up on that. Could be I need batteries for my Sarcastoblaster and Ironichron. -- Walt http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:43 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: more clouds from the french alps and an unusual diner .....
I really like the caterpillar shot. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Madame RD romd...@orange.fr wrote: the colours were incredible ... I'd never seen anything like this . I wondered about cropping the bottom of the picture but decided against it .. I felt it emphasized the sheer size of the cloud http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/#/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/lightbox/ had a go at the garden too http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/#/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/lightbox/ dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Well congrats on them choosing your photograph. It is indeed worthy of appreciation by the wide audience it will receive. But as for the value of the photo credit and website address nowhere in the proximity of said photograph, I'd have to say it is near nil. If you have Google Analytics on your web site and have a measureable change in hits once the phone book comes out - due to that alone, I'd be incredibly surprised. Of course, only ONE important person needs to see it to make it worthwhile. Especially given its location, I think I would have tried to give the interested finder of the bio a bit more to chew on than name and web site address. Put another way, if all I was asking for was name and website address, I would have asked for it to be on the cover or in the photograph itself. For free usage of such a good image, I don't think that would have been too much to ask (or receive) at all. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
I know. Just goes to show you, anyone can take great photos ... even with a Pentax. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:47 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hey! I took a Great Photograph this summer! http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5184984568/ Man, that was easy. Wow, Kenny! That's a great photograph! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I think I may have a problem....
I must say, I find some of the value judgments made in this thread to be oddly entertaining and encouraging. I'm also going to use them as motivation. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO today's mushroom picture
On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Good one, Larry! I think the larger grouping on the left would, also, make a nice shot on its own. Thanks. That's easy enough to arrange, as a matter of fact, that's what I started out with: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5185029702/ or more from above http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5185030086/ Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO today's mushroom picture To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 7:09 AM On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep asking myself how many mushroom pictures do I need? 1 more than you already have. I was working in the yard this afternoon and got distracted by playing with my camera again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set-72157625405200292/ Very good. I love the composition here. Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I know! It's a study in tacky! I expected this, so it doesn't either surprise or bother me. IOW, I'm a free advertising whore. I wondered what kind of whore you were. But, if you're free, you're a slut, not a whore, you've got to make money to call yourself a pro. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Den 17. nov. 2010 kl. 17.10 skrev Bob Sullivan: Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) Regards, Bob S. But on the other hand it is easier to get photos accepted in competitions or in the Pentax Gallery if you photograph exotic locations .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I wondered what kind of whore you were. But, if you're free, you're a slut, not a whore, you've got to make money to call yourself a pro. I know dialog and that is particularly harsh. - When Harry Met Sally. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 04:48:12PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com I have previously mentioned the movie Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. I love that movie. Right alongside Galaxy Quest for a fun time. Sky Captain didn't do anything for me. Galaxy Quest, however, sits on the shelf alongside Flash Gordon, The Last Starfighter and Ice Pirates (and Barbarella, and Mars Attacks ...) There are a whole lot of really good B movies out there. There's a group I categorise as Arnie Movies (The Running Man, True Lies, Conan [I II], and Judge Dredd) - the last may not have actually had The Governator in it, but it would have been about the same movie with him playing the role. Then there are The Princess Bride, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, and even at least the first Pirates of the Caribbean -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Damn he has all kinds of links to click on to give him money, I want one that takes it away. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Oh, I think when the users see that cover they'll feverishly examine every inch of that book looking for the cover photog. yeah right!! If it were to be used to promote a product for financial gain or itself be sold, I'd have, of course, charged for furnishing the image which went to them as an email attachment. Guess I'm just too tired to be concerned. :-/ Thanks for commenting, Darren! Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: From: CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 8:50 AM Well congrats on them choosing your photograph. It is indeed worthy of appreciation by the wide audience it will receive. But as for the value of the photo credit and website address nowhere in the proximity of said photograph, I'd have to say it is near nil. If you have Google Analytics on your web site and have a measureable change in hits once the phone book comes out - due to that alone, I'd be incredibly surprised. Of course, only ONE important person needs to see it to make it worthwhile. Especially given its location, I think I would have tried to give the interested finder of the bio a bit more to chew on than name and web site address. Put another way, if all I was asking for was name and website address, I would have asked for it to be on the cover or in the photograph itself. For free usage of such a good image, I don't think that would have been too much to ask (or receive) at all. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Oh, I'm planning on an extreme rush of business as a direct result of this book..sputter!! Maybe I'm an indirect whore. It's my condom philosophy. Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 9:03 AM On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I know! It's a study in tacky! I expected this, so it doesn't either surprise or bother me. IOW, I'm a free advertising whore. I wondered what kind of whore you were. But, if you're free, you're a slut, not a whore, you've got to make money to call yourself a pro. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
I'll bet there are others who would say, I'll have what he's having. ;) Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: From: CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 9:11 AM On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I wondered what kind of whore you were. But, if you're free, you're a slut, not a whore, you've got to make money to call yourself a pro. I know dialog and that is particularly harsh. - When Harry Met Sally. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
On 2010-11-17 08:16 , CheekyGeek wrote: One example, I might suggest, is one of the three Sam Abell images that graced the COVER of National Geographic magazine: http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/a/aboriginal-teenager-504198-sw.jpg (http://on.natgeo.com/903wXD ) Is the greatness of this image due to the photographer or the unusual subject? Put another way, if we put ME in that water, would this be a compelling image? what i have to say before reading any other comments: having worked in the magazine business, including art-directing and laying out many covers and working with great photography (e.g. James Balog, Sebastio Salgado), i think that is an excellent cover shot but not a photo i would hang on the wall; the form (with reflection) is interesting, and the gaze is penetrating (i can only hope it is better at a larger size), but mainly it grabs the looker with a quick glance and it has perfect backgrounds for titles; i also assume it is iconic for a larger topic included in the magazine issue in short, while some are stunning artworks on their own, in most magazines the cover shot is essentially a functional design element -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Right you are, but the link has lots of truth in it. It made me rethink some of what I was doing looking for photo opportunities. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, a lot of what Miserere was saying in that article was with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Or maybe I just need new batteries in my sarcastometer/ironicalgraph. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. As much fun as he is to make fun of, he is occasionally on target. After my FZ50 was stolen, it was his piece on the D40 that eventually ended up with me getting my K100. I was looking at the D40 and the competing Rebel when I heard the salesman discussing the K100 with another customer, and I realized that it had everything I liked about the D40 and none of the things I didn't like about the Rebel, plus it was cheaper and had in body image stabilization. Likewise, everything that he liked about his D40 applied to the K100. Mind you, if I could have used my old AIS lenses on a D40 the way I can use K lenses on a K100, I'd probably be shooting Nikon today. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm Is the Tokina 100/2.8 macro the same as the Pentax? He does, however, make a few Rockwellisms in this piece. He categorically states that 200mm is better than 100mm because you get more working distance, when I find that I'm often using my 50mm or 20mm rather than the 90mm either because I don't have the room to be as far away as the 90 requires, or because I specifically want the wide angle perspective. [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] I think that he's very good at giving simple, easy to understand, advice to people who don't know anything about photography. Note that I didn't say completely accurate advice. A is better because of B is a lot easier to digest than A is better because of B, except in cases of C, when D is better, unless you're shooting with a flash in which case neither matters because the interocitor is polarized anyways. Going way off topic, In the same scene that the interocitor is mentioned, they also mention one of these: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detailname=604-1018-ND Welcome to the 21st century. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'd use this current set. Just issue an Errata sheet with each calendar. Do a color one with a funny picture. It will be memorable. Take a red sharpie, circle the dates and use an arrow to mark where they go. Make some funny comment. Then in half a dozen or so places in each calendar hand write in amusing events, or reminders: Playdate with Mothra Send Uncle Dave money Buy more Ice Cream On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2010 23:20, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As Ted and I were finishing up our time at War Eagle Mill, we came across this rather large hunk of iron that must have been a part taken from the workings of the mill. I thought it was intriguing, but lacked the intestinal fortitude (literally and figuratively) to try and sneak out of there with it, and wasn't sure how to go about photographing it. I consulted with Ted, who was quick to point out, Godfrey would know what to do with it. I agreed. Still, I didn't want to leave without taking a shot at it just to see what I could come up with in post processing. Well, this is how it turned out: http://flic.kr/p/8U1ZKa K-x, DAL 18-55 (at 35mm), f/7.1, ISO 200, 1/250, Aperture priority At the risk of incurring his wrath, I decided to name it after the guy who inspired it. Comments, critiques, suggestions, and all major credit cards accepted. This is a hilarious post, guys. I agree. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Kennyboy is the John Stewart of photography. He has said he does it for laughs. Yet he sells himself as an expert. His advice to noob's is often positively damaging, and he wants to be paid for it. I, on the other hand, hang out here I freely give advice and don;t expect to be paid for it, good or bad. I think he's repulsive and his work runs to garish colors and bad composition, which you know probably would appeal to the least common denominator.He's at best a hack and at worst a charlatan. .I don't care how successful his web site is. On 11/17/2010 1:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I only have one word for Kennyboy, and that's putz... I invite you to produce a more successful photo website than his. At the very least, Kennyboy is a well known, and successful putz. As much fun as he is to make fun of, he is occasionally on target. After my FZ50 was stolen, it was his piece on the D40 that eventually ended up with me getting my K100. I was looking at the D40 and the competing Rebel when I heard the salesman discussing the K100 with another customer, and I realized that it had everything I liked about the D40 and none of the things I didn't like about the Rebel, plus it was cheaper and had in body image stabilization. Likewise, everything that he liked about his D40 applied to the K100. Mind you, if I could have used my old AIS lenses on a D40 the way I can use K lenses on a K100, I'd probably be shooting Nikon today. On 11/17/2010 12:15 PM, Miserere wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm Is the Tokina 100/2.8 macro the same as the Pentax? He does, however, make a few Rockwellisms in this piece. He categorically states that 200mm is better than 100mm because you get more working distance, when I find that I'm often using my 50mm or 20mm rather than the 90mm either because I don't have the room to be as far away as the 90 requires, or because I specifically want the wide angle perspective. [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] I think that he's very good at giving simple, easy to understand, advice to people who don't know anything about photography. Note that I didn't say completely accurate advice. A is better because of B is a lot easier to digest than A is better because of B, except in cases of C, when D is better, unless you're shooting with a flash in which case neither matters because the interocitor is polarized anyways. Going way off topic, In the same scene that the interocitor is mentioned, they also mention one of these: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detailname=604-1018-ND Welcome to the 21st century. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
Very funny! On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:32 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Definitely better than a redo - personal gifts are all about giving a piece of yourself wrapped in thoughtful affection - give them your booboo with an extra icing of love on top so to say... and excuse my corny wording... rofl 2010/11/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'd use this current set. Just issue an Errata sheet with each calendar. Do a color one with a funny picture. It will be memorable. Take a red sharpie, circle the dates and use an arrow to mark where they go. Make some funny comment. Then in half a dozen or so places in each calendar hand write in amusing events, or reminders: Playdate with Mothra Send Uncle Dave money Buy more Ice Cream On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
Hahahahaaa... did you know that the Nikon F6 is an APS-C digital? Quote: This is an FX lens, and works especially well with on FX, 35mm and DX Nikons like the D7000, D700, D3X, D300s and F6 2010/11/17 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue and Red
frank theriault wrote: And urban still life: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/blue-animal-red-baron.html Now you just need to find a red animal next to a Labatt's Blue bottle... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Good suggestions Larry!Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'd use this current set. Just issue an Errata sheet with each calendar. Do a color one with a funny picture. It will be memorable. Take a red sharpie, circle the dates and use an arrow to mark where they go. Make some funny comment. Then in half a dozen or so places in each calendar hand write in amusing events, or reminders: Playdate with Mothra Send Uncle Dave money Buy more Ice Cream On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I'd use this current set. Just issue an Errata sheet with each calendar. Do a color one with a funny picture. It will be memorable. Take a red sharpie, circle the dates and use an arrow to mark where they go. Make some funny comment. Then in half a dozen or so places in each calendar hand write in amusing events, or reminders: Playdate with Mothra Send Uncle Dave money Buy more Ice Cream LOL, I may just give that one some thought. What i did was write the names of the bride and groom on the Saturday and Friday, of the 2010 dates. I could always say this was when the actual time was. I really don't want to spend another $120. Dave On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: That's textbook win-win, right there. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert http://waltgilbert.posterous.com/ On 11/17/2010 10:14 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Better yet for the husbands if your error put the date 1 day early... On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: Walter Gilbert wrote: Just give the ones with the boo-boos to the husbands. That way, they'll have an excuse in case they forget. What do I know? I got the screwed up calendar! Genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ken Rockwell LOVES the Pentax DFA 100mm f/2.8 macro!!!
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Well, in a roundabout way... http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm [dons flame suit for mentioning the unmentionable name] If he likes it, I'll buy something else.:-) I read his bit on lens sharpness. He must of got a good copy of the Tamron 28075. Mine was not Dave —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax photo gallery
Congratulations! BTW, if anyone knows the folks who run the PPG, please tell them to update their sign-in page. The language is a bit clumsy, especially where it assumes the reader has never before seen anything as wondrous and modern as an on-line photo gallery. When was that written? Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: Yay! ///Finally/// another photo got approved for the PPG!! http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nickwright That is some tough stuff! On another note, has anyone else noticed the PPG does not like Safari? It just refuses to work for me in that browser. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Nice image! I can see why they asked to use it. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Sam Abell thread (1)
Darren, Will comment more when I have time to look at your links. I think you and Miserere have some common opinions here. Look at this piece he has put up on 'What makes a good photograph.' http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ I think we don't go to enough exoctic locations to have great photos. :-) I was once showing a group of friends some of my photos from Ethiopia and one of the people commented well, anyone can take good photos in a place like that. I was amazed at the comment, particularly given that the same person has seen many photos of Ethiopia by other friends which are completely shit, and plenty of mine taken locally which are pretty good. Everywhere is exotic to people who live on the other side of the world. I remember coming home one day to find a group of Japanese tourists peering into the window of my house, presumably taking an anthropological interest in the exotic native household. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
On 2010-11-17 09:50 , CheekyGeek wrote: Put another way, if all I was asking for was name and website address, I would have asked for it to be on the cover or in the photograph itself. For free usage of such a good image, I don't think that would have been too much to ask (or receive) at all. i'm a consultant on telephone directory production; i've seen such covers from all over the US; smaller directories like to find local color for their covers, but they _never_ put a credit on the cover but it's still nice exposure -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Sam Abell thread (1)
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: one of the people commented well, anyone can take good photos in a place like that. ^^^ How to diagnose an abusive personality in one sentence (or, at a minimum, Severe Social Retardation). Reminds me of the line Wow your camera takes nice pictures! To which the only reasonable response is Thanks! You mouth makes nice compliments! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO today's mushroom picture
Larry Colen wrote I keep asking myself how many mushroom pictures do I need? Now you've achieved a shot without mangling the mushroom by dropping bits of equipment on it, you could stop now... ...But if you can do any more as good as this, keep going! Chris I was working in the yard this afternoon and got distracted by playing with my camera again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5183450266/in/set- 72157625405200292/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Thanks, Dan! After what they did to it I was reluctant to claim it..NOT! ;) Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 11:03 AM Nice image! I can see why they asked to use it. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
